Mass Effect 2 - What Happens If You Bring Legion to the Quarian Migrant Fleet for Tali's Trial?

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Big Dan Gaming

Big Dan Gaming

3 жыл бұрын

In this video I'll show you what happens if you bring Legion to the Migrant Fleet for Tali's treason trial in Mass Effect 2.
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By the time you recruit Legion in Mass Effect 2, the main story is nearly over. So many players will have already completed Tali’s loyalty mission before getting the Geth as a squadmate. But if you wait to do Tali’s mission until AFTER you’ve recruited Legion… AND you bring him along as a companion to the trial, you will unlock a lot of hidden dialogue and unique interactions.
Things get tense the moment you arrive on the ship. Instead of a cordial greeting before being escorted to Admiral Raan, the Quarian envoy greets you with weapons drawn.
As you walk through the ship, you will overhear other Quarians in total disbelief that Tali is just casually hanging out with a live Geth.
When the trial starts, things get heated again. Usually Admiral Koris objects to Shepard’s presence at the hearing, but this time he will protest against Legion instead.
Admiral Koris is the biggest advocate for peace with the Geth. He feels that the Quarians wronged them when they tried to deactivate and destroy the Geth three centuries earlier. When you speak with Koris, you can ask Legion to chime in on the possibility for peace between the Geth and Quarians.
Admiral Xen on the other hand is more interested in performing experiments on Geth. She’s been performing questionable experiments since she was a kid apparently. When you speak with Xen this time she will ask about the possibility of experimenting on Legion, which leads to one of my favorite lines from him: "This platform is not available for experimentation"
Unfortunately, Admirals Raan and Gerrel don’t have any unique dialogue regarding Legion specifically. However, Shepard will be able to comment on different factions within the Geth, having spoken to Legion about the Geth heretics.
Bringing Legion to the Migrant Fleet also changes some dialogue in Mass Effect 3. After the Geth Dreadnought mission, when Legion comes aboard the Normandy, Admiral Raan will recognize Legion.
It’s such a small detail in the grand scheme of things, but I absolutely love that Bioware included this in the game. Most RPGs just don’t acknowledge your companions and any conflict that might exist between them and a faction you are speaking with during a quest. Like say, if you bring an android onto a ship full of minigun-wielding fanatics who want to destroy all androids, they won’t even give a shit.
But of course the Quarians would freak out if you showed up with an active Geth unit on their flotilla. The Geth literally drove them off their homeworld and turned them into a nomadic space faring people who have to live inside suits to keep from getting sick and dying. Bioware recognized this and wrote it into the story for this side quest, which makes the game world much more immersive.
So there you have it - what happens if you bring Legion on Tali's loyalty mission in Mass Effect 2.

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@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Shepard: "Don't try to intimidate me, Captain" Quarian Captain: "Or what?" Shepard: "Or I take off this mask and breathe germs all over your nice clean ship..."
@nicosheppert2084
@nicosheppert2084 3 жыл бұрын
I Love this Dialog. One of the best in the game
@jxckedgell3821
@jxckedgell3821 3 жыл бұрын
Keep the great content up mate 👍👍
@guillaumejoop6437
@guillaumejoop6437 3 жыл бұрын
renegade shepard often has the best punchlines
@danielkrause1357
@danielkrause1357 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos on the consequences of Mass Effect are very entertaining. Could you possibly do Dragon Age: Origins and explore the multiple choices throughout those games too?
@adam_bbing
@adam_bbing 3 жыл бұрын
@Roo Morgoo probably would have apologized and asked legion to go back to the ship.
@builder396
@builder396 3 жыл бұрын
Tali: "I never brought active Geth to the fleet!" Legion: *exists* Tali: "I never *intentionally* brought active Geth to the fleet."
@TylerNOS386277
@TylerNOS386277 3 жыл бұрын
Tali: "I never brought active Geth to the fleet!" Legion: *exists* Tali: "It was all Commander Shepard's idea."
@builder396
@builder396 3 жыл бұрын
@@TylerNOS386277 Shepard: *looks at Tali* *looks back at Quarian guards* "This one was my idea, just wanted to see what would happen, I had no idea about anything that happened before. Believe me."
@AnimeShinigami13
@AnimeShinigami13 3 жыл бұрын
lol, a callback to "Geth don't 'intentionally' infiltrate."
@kylzepolaczkowaty2197
@kylzepolaczkowaty2197 3 жыл бұрын
I never brought active geth ...until now
@plaguemarine7767
@plaguemarine7767 3 жыл бұрын
Legion: exists
@igniskitsune887
@igniskitsune887 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that when the admiral points out that Legion is in the audience of the trial, the rest of the audience gasp in shock and horror that a Geth is with them. Like did they not notice Legion standing with them when the trial started. It’s just too funny for me.
@Askhat08
@Askhat08 3 жыл бұрын
I more like that Legion is also be like "Geth? Where?"
@PlebNC
@PlebNC 3 жыл бұрын
@@Askhat08 *Legion grabs a random desklamp of a desk.* Legion: "Attention suspect Geth spydrone, relinquish your comms protocol so we may find your masters."
@cjdziesiuta1995
@cjdziesiuta1995 3 жыл бұрын
"Geth do not intentionally infiltrate, but apparently we are really damn good at it."
@XxnamcoxcapcomxX
@XxnamcoxcapcomxX 3 жыл бұрын
Ok this is random but but it reminds me of the trial in Batman Forever where Harvey Dent gets acid thrown on him then Batman jumps in from the seats to subdue the attacker. But that implies that Batman in full costume was just sitting in on a trial in the audience seating, that always made me laugh as a kid.
@VitalHonet98
@VitalHonet98 3 жыл бұрын
The Gerth are masters of infiltration!
@SpectreAnimations
@SpectreAnimations 3 жыл бұрын
Tali: “But I would never send active geth to the fleet.” Legion: Creator Zorah. This is an awkward anomaly most organics refer to as a “Bruh moment.”
@aaron75fy
@aaron75fy 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite contradiction on the internet
@mrsejd3446
@mrsejd3446 2 жыл бұрын
Tali: “But I would never send active geth to the fleet.” Shepard: "Well, I would."
@hugosinclair6798
@hugosinclair6798 2 жыл бұрын
someone should record that, mod it into the game and let the community use it XD
@OneTwoMark
@OneTwoMark 3 жыл бұрын
Most games would be like “you can’t bring this companion for this mission” to avoid all unique interactions.
@whitneyscheuermann1832
@whitneyscheuermann1832 3 жыл бұрын
I love that BioWare embraces it
@Sh0tgunJust1ce
@Sh0tgunJust1ce 3 жыл бұрын
Or even worse, have Legion brought along and have the Quarians give no reaction.
@whitneyscheuermann1832
@whitneyscheuermann1832 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sh0tgunJust1ce I mean.. but that's not the case. Hence why I said I love that BioWare embraces unique interactions.
@jaredcrabb
@jaredcrabb 3 жыл бұрын
Or they allow it only to have it be just like bringing anyone else as if they changed races for the mission.
@atashgallagher5139
@atashgallagher5139 3 жыл бұрын
@@whitneyscheuermann1832 yes, blocking you from bringing him is bad, but letting you bring him and having ZERO reactions to it would be far far worse because it completely ignores it.
@Pine0wlple
@Pine0wlple 3 жыл бұрын
Although, to be fair. Tali is still right in having never brought a live Geth onboard, it was actually Shepherd that did it.
@KalashVodka175
@KalashVodka175 3 жыл бұрын
Sheppard flexing on the migrant fleet
@fuzzyhead878
@fuzzyhead878 3 жыл бұрын
My bad…
@Redmanticore
@Redmanticore 3 жыл бұрын
technically fair* she still didnt resist that decision with tooth and nail nor send a message about if beforehand
@bignigga2238
@bignigga2238 3 жыл бұрын
@@KalashVodka175 "get dabbed on lmao" -sheperd
@Primeditz
@Primeditz Жыл бұрын
I tripping more on the fact your name is “TheSuicider66”
@mcmahon31619
@mcmahon31619 3 жыл бұрын
On my first playthrough I did this without even thinking about it. when the doors opened and the quarian guards started pointing their guns at me I was like. Oh right I have a geth with me
@shampthedog
@shampthedog 3 жыл бұрын
Same, I thought they were gonna kill Legion.
@1rgam3r
@1rgam3r 3 жыл бұрын
Did this also on a paragon run. Got curious to see if it could be done. What a reward! Timing is a bit tricky so you don’t get half your crew and squad mates killed. If you ignore the constant nagging about going and getting the iff, then you’ll be fine.
@whitneyscheuermann1832
@whitneyscheuermann1832 3 жыл бұрын
@@1rgam3r On a first play through, it's a real mind fuck if you go for the IFF early. Constant replays have been a huge benefit for me, and I NEVER get tired of it. And timing has to be right. You literally have to do everything else you wanna do, leave Legion and Tali for last, and then do Tali's loyalty mission DIRECTLY after getting Legion. (or directly after Legion's loyalty mission. I'm currently replaying 1 and finished 3 a few weeks ago, so 2 is kinda blending right now XD)
@KritoSkywaker
@KritoSkywaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@whitneyscheuermann1832 In my Paragon FemShep playthrough, I did Tali's Loyalty Mission after getting Legion. Then I did Legion's Loyalty Mission. 😊 And I was still able to save everyone. 😊
@whitneyscheuermann1832
@whitneyscheuermann1832 3 жыл бұрын
@@KritoSkywaker I just recently did this as well. So yup
@lorewalkermaohao4602
@lorewalkermaohao4602 3 жыл бұрын
"Don't try to intimidate me, Captain." "Or what?" "You... can't see my level, can you?"
@alternative915
@alternative915 3 жыл бұрын
clearly he's not a shop owner 🤡
@welkingunther5417
@welkingunther5417 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you know just how many guns I've got, can use effectively, and carry?"
@nickdejager8873
@nickdejager8873 3 жыл бұрын
It's ME2. Your level doesn't mean much if you don't have something to crouch behind.
@foofoo3344
@foofoo3344 3 жыл бұрын
It's OVER 9000!!!!!
@TactiClaus
@TactiClaus 3 жыл бұрын
"Ah, Captain, your name must translate to Able in english. Well, let me introduce you to my friend Cain"
@SuperWolfman9
@SuperWolfman9 3 жыл бұрын
What Legion says: *"THIS PLATFORM IS NOT AVALIABLE FOR EXPERIMENTATION"* What Legion thinks: *help us Shepard, We're scared, get the scary lady away from us*
@anarmedrat8966
@anarmedrat8966 3 жыл бұрын
"Shepard-Commander? We wanna go home... :'("
@kainepeterson6638
@kainepeterson6638 3 жыл бұрын
“Shepard-Commander, this unit would like to return to the Normandy now.”
@FireBallZ24Gaming
@FireBallZ24Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Giving me feels man, sad feels for Legion Bro.
@redbasher636
@redbasher636 2 жыл бұрын
@@kainepeterson6638 I'm just imagining if Legion has access to Shepard's UI on their helmet, it's just a constant: "Help" "Help" "Help"
@griffingower1883
@griffingower1883 Жыл бұрын
The one Quarian feared by the Geth. Admiral Daro'Xen vas Moreh.
@andrewouellette1954
@andrewouellette1954 2 жыл бұрын
Tali: "I would never bring active geth to the fleet" Legion: *quietly beep boops in the corner*
@The_Greedy_Orphan
@The_Greedy_Orphan 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever Chrisjen Avasarala speaks you best listen to her.
@bullet2800
@bullet2800 3 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@Aurica34
@Aurica34 3 жыл бұрын
@@bullet2800 Admiral Raan is voice acted by Shohreh Aghdashloo who also plays Chrisjen Avarasarala on the expanse series (hard sci fi show on Amazon adapted from the novels)
@danielkerber8667
@danielkerber8667 3 жыл бұрын
@@bullet2800 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZ61gouml8p0Y5I&ab_channel=AmazonPrimeVideo
@commandermarc
@commandermarc 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aurica34 Shohreh Aghdashloo was also in the TV series "24." I was like: oh, Admiral Raan!
@xyr3s
@xyr3s 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aurica34 the expanse is also basically like a spiritual live action adaptation of mass effect. XD
@Greenley013
@Greenley013 3 жыл бұрын
Shepard: "Don't try to intimidate me, Captain" Quarian Captain: "Or what?" Shepard: "Or I'll use MY intimidate option, and I doubt your helmet can survive the impact."
@ktmyamaha01
@ktmyamaha01 2 жыл бұрын
"hahaha, I like this human. He understands."
@diamondinthesky4771
@diamondinthesky4771 3 жыл бұрын
Tali - "I never brought active geth onto the migrant fleet!" Legion - *is there* Talia - "This one is on Shepard, not me"!
@BurningEarthProductions
@BurningEarthProductions 3 жыл бұрын
If you bring Legion with you during Tali's Trial and explore all additional dialogue options with the admirals, send Veetor back to the Migrant Fleet instead of with Cerberus, save Kal'Reegar, and ask both Veetor and Kal'Reegar for their help standing up for her on the Rayya, you can also get the option to rally the crowd at the end of the trial, keeping Tali safe from being exiled without having to use Charm or Intimidate. :)
@herbertschulz4313
@herbertschulz4313 3 жыл бұрын
That works regardless of legions involvement
@rizkisoekartono454
@rizkisoekartono454 3 жыл бұрын
Nope works for all companions not only for Legion
@BurningEarthProductions
@BurningEarthProductions 3 жыл бұрын
You are both correct. My apologies.
@herbertschulz4313
@herbertschulz4313 3 жыл бұрын
@@BurningEarthProductions no Problem mate, nice to see that there are still civilised people left on the internet
@KrolPawi
@KrolPawi 3 жыл бұрын
@@BurningEarthProductions nah its not so strange. I imagine there is not many people that did not bought legion into a migrant Fleet. It is kind of an obvius choice
@justinboivin
@justinboivin 3 жыл бұрын
This is why the Mass Effect trilogy is so great. They actually acknowledge all the different ways a player can go about things. Games like Skyrim will flat out ignore major player choices, let alone the details like this.
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 3 жыл бұрын
Skyrim is of course a very different type of game. Morrowind however was more prone to recognize your choices. The issue is how much choice the player has as well as the cost of voicing all those choices. Morrowind was text mostly so it was easy to record all the many choices you could choose from. When Skyrim came out it was almost entirely voiced which means you don't get as many choices. true is also with Mass Effect- It ultimately is forced to limit player interactivity to an extent and can't have as many missions as it would if it was not required to voice everything. Moral of the story is not everything needs to be voiced. Some of my favorite missions from the ME series were un-voiced side missions.
@justinboivin
@justinboivin 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrChickennugget360 True, not everything needs to be voiced, but sometimes acknowledging player choice is as simple as a tweak showing in game changes. Like in Skyrim, they could have simply have made the Forsworn not hostile after helping Madanach....but then again, mods fix most problems.
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinboivin its funny to think about but Skyrim is older than Mass Effect 3
@ghorstbusters6238
@ghorstbusters6238 3 жыл бұрын
Skyrim is as wide as an ocean and as deep as a puddle. Enjoyable but superficial.
@TonyPajamaz
@TonyPajamaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinboivin some of them aren’t hostile to you. He and his forsworn are friendly when they reach their hideout.
@darkusdudemedia
@darkusdudemedia 3 жыл бұрын
Tali: “I’d never bring live gets to the fleet” Admirals: “girl what you been putting in your suit filter, we can see that metal MF right there!”
@vladimirratedr4409
@vladimirratedr4409 3 жыл бұрын
In Tali's defence, she said "I would never *send* active Geth to the fleet". The decision to *bring* Legion is Shepard's alone, not Tali's. Having a Geth arrive with her, is superficial evidence, since it has nothing to do with the facts of the case.
@absurdpotato6562
@absurdpotato6562 Жыл бұрын
plus this time, shepard and tali both promise to kill legion if it proves to be dangerous. it's different than "sending an active geth" to a lab that may not have been prepared to combating geth.
@Dead_Guy_Bob
@Dead_Guy_Bob 3 жыл бұрын
*THIS PLATFORM IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR EXPERIMENTATION* Savage.
@AlbinosaurusR3X
@AlbinosaurusR3X 3 жыл бұрын
This is what iPhones say when you try to repair them.
@CRONNOS95
@CRONNOS95 2 жыл бұрын
I always love the way legions head plates all flip up a bit when he walks into guns pointing at him, like “ahh, don’t like this”
@chucklytell
@chucklytell 3 жыл бұрын
More emotionally charged line in ME3: "had to be me, someone else might have gotten it wrong" or "Does this unit have a soul?"
@danielm6049
@danielm6049 3 жыл бұрын
Not fair! They're both great lines! I hate how they kill off both of them too.
@KingTylex
@KingTylex 3 жыл бұрын
"My turn... heeeh heeeh heeh..."
@dreadpenguinlord340
@dreadpenguinlord340 3 жыл бұрын
"Shepard... did I help...?" -Conrad Verner, dying words
@MajorMlgNoob
@MajorMlgNoob 3 жыл бұрын
Well Mordin is sacrificing himself to right his mistakes Legion says that when you opt to choose the Quarians over the Geth condemning them to extinction
@morgatron4639
@morgatron4639 3 жыл бұрын
That's not Legion's best line. When he sacrifices himself to help save the quarians and the geth, tali says he does have a soul. He just says "I know" The only time he referred to himself in the first person. Recognizing his existence as a living entity only in the last moments of his life.
@SunBunz
@SunBunz 3 жыл бұрын
1:04 Awwww! Legion tilts his head like a confused puppy! He’s so damn cuuuuute and innocent. 🥰
@anarmedrat8966
@anarmedrat8966 3 жыл бұрын
"Shepard-Commander? Why do they all hate me? :'("
@SunBunz
@SunBunz 3 жыл бұрын
@@anarmedrat8966 😢💔
@MrSpartanspud
@MrSpartanspud 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's Morrigan. Well, Claudia Black. And you can really hear it in the "indeed." 😄
@steveh84
@steveh84 3 жыл бұрын
She'll always be Officer Aeryn Sun first and foremost 😊
@volcanolord100
@volcanolord100 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, it's always Vala Mal Doran. SG1!
@nyetloki
@nyetloki 3 жыл бұрын
Its always "Yes mommy"
@nyetloki
@nyetloki 3 жыл бұрын
I mean What?
@johny192able
@johny192able 3 жыл бұрын
Not only Morrigan but Loghain as well. A mini DAO reunion 😁
@rburbr0171
@rburbr0171 3 жыл бұрын
I mean let's be honest, if during your play through you had the opportunity to bring a geth platform onto the migrant fleet and chose not to, did you REALLY play the ME trilogy? 😅
@Dcraft_TNT
@Dcraft_TNT 3 жыл бұрын
i did it too
@Dcraft_TNT
@Dcraft_TNT 3 жыл бұрын
@@whocaresguy my man
@GhostGamer799
@GhostGamer799 3 жыл бұрын
I did it in my first playtrouth and lost half of the soldier in normady but its a great experience
@granmastersword
@granmastersword 3 жыл бұрын
@@GhostGamer799 if I remember correctly, you can do both Tali's and Legion's loyalty mission and still be able to save the rest of the Normandy crew. I think the only requirement is that those 2 missions are the only missions you play before the last mission
@mickhailreeves7517
@mickhailreeves7517 3 жыл бұрын
Renegades are out of line 😂
@dextergrif1052
@dextergrif1052 3 жыл бұрын
Tali and Legion are my favorite companions, mostly because of how opposite the two are. They have a great arc of learning to work together (if you make the right decisions)
@goratron1
@goratron1 3 жыл бұрын
Shame legion didn't come into the story earlier.
@primarchvulkan4013
@primarchvulkan4013 7 ай бұрын
​@@goratron1it's more shameful considering that early on development Bioware was thinking about getting Legion in team much earlier. AFAIK he had unique interaction on a Garrus recruiting mission
@lambo2655
@lambo2655 3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how great Legion makes this mission when you bring him along and the amount of new actions & dialogue Bioware put into this encounter. It’s a pity he’s such a late addition to the story, would have loved to have him on more missions.
@zaneex4043
@zaneex4043 3 жыл бұрын
You just answered a question I never even considered asking
@metalnerd3855
@metalnerd3855 3 жыл бұрын
I purposely brought legion and Tali with me just to see what would happen its great.
@reav3rtm
@reav3rtm 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Was not disappointed.
@Kratosx23
@Kratosx23 3 жыл бұрын
The only problem is that by taking Legion with you, you have to do Talis loyalty mission last which means you lose conversation time with her.
@atashgallagher5139
@atashgallagher5139 3 жыл бұрын
This is also why bringing Javik and Liara is amazing, she talks about the protheans and the goddess, and Javik just says "Bruh, I had lunch with the guy like two weeks ago" thats the vibe at least.
@planescaped
@planescaped 3 жыл бұрын
I used to love modding ME2 back in the day. I thought it was amazing how legion had voiced and working dialog *for the entire game* despite normally you can only recruit -him- it near the end. Playing with -him- it from the beginning was fascinating.
@syveenwolf
@syveenwolf 3 жыл бұрын
Originally the story was the geth bring shepherd back and legion would take on Mirandas role. At some point this was changed to Cerberus but not before legion was fully voice acted and animated for the entire game even the first mission of me2 has legion dialogue.
@GamingMisthios13
@GamingMisthios13 3 жыл бұрын
@@syveenwolf that’s incredible!
@vitorfranca5635
@vitorfranca5635 2 жыл бұрын
@@syveenwolf thats dope
@MarceloZ2
@MarceloZ2 2 жыл бұрын
@@syveenwolf I would actually prefer this to what we actually got even though what we got was already amazing. To work with the geth throughout the game and learn their ways and motivations beyond simply talking to Legion would be a sight to behold.
@syveenwolf
@syveenwolf 2 жыл бұрын
@@MarceloZ2 unfortunately the geth way would've been very difficult to pull off in a meaningful way. Cerberus are jackasses but nobody was at war with them. Meanwhile the geth we're at war with everyone in the galaxy at one point or another. It would've been difficult to justify working with them
@jj_grabes
@jj_grabes 2 жыл бұрын
Paragon Shepard stepping in to be Legion's human shield is heartwarming even in the current situation they find themselves in. He basically said "you want Legion dead? It's a two-for-one deal."
@jaypey8253
@jaypey8253 3 жыл бұрын
Shepard: "Don't try to intimidate me, Captain" Quarian Captain: "Or what?" Shepard: " I have COVID, and im itching to take this mask OFF!"
@Starcat5
@Starcat5 3 жыл бұрын
I am not giving this comment an upvote, but you did make me laugh.
@BT-ob7ve
@BT-ob7ve 3 жыл бұрын
In a realistic context that would mean the complete extinction of the quarians on that ship
@a_llama
@a_llama 3 жыл бұрын
@@Starcat5petty
@Starcat5
@Starcat5 3 жыл бұрын
@@a_llama You joking? I know folks who lost loved ones. In that context, simply not voting is *HIGH PRAISE!* Gallows humor is hard to pull off while the event is still going down after all.
@a_llama
@a_llama 3 жыл бұрын
@@Starcat5 here's some blinker fluid for that virtue signal of yours.
@drainglaive
@drainglaive 3 жыл бұрын
Legion's voice so satisfying :>
@oidcheclaidheimoor
@oidcheclaidheimoor 3 жыл бұрын
Dozens of playthroughs never even though of doing this, props to the developers and props to you for finding it
@jaredcrabb
@jaredcrabb 3 жыл бұрын
You never once thought "I wonder what would happen?" I did this my very first playthrough. Honestly thought it would be an instant game over.
@kereamohau
@kereamohau 3 жыл бұрын
God this just makes this game series so much more deeper. Love it
@takkarsasori8961
@takkarsasori8961 3 жыл бұрын
"Shepard Commander" i love that with the geth voice.
@lenakingsleigh
@lenakingsleigh 2 жыл бұрын
I swear, I feel so much sympathy for Legion. The way he just turns his head or shifts nervously as soon as the Quarians "call him out" makes me just want to hug him. Legion is definitely one of the best characters in the game for me, including Thane, Liara and Mordin. I wish we could've chosen him as a crewmate in ME3... I recall really enjoying his first mission!
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 3 жыл бұрын
“I never brought in active Geth in to the fleet” - Tali. She does now (well Shepard anyway) Incidentally, I find it to hard to be a complete renegade through in ME2 and 3, as the character ends up too much of an anti-social a##hole for my liking. Which is probably credit to the character and dialogue created.
@ThisIsANameBruh
@ThisIsANameBruh 3 жыл бұрын
There's also the little difference between ME2 and ME3 where in ME2 a renegade is an asshole whereas in ME3 a renegade is basically Space Hitler.
@ukmaxi
@ukmaxi 3 жыл бұрын
Well, in ME2 it is even commented on by Garrus that him [Shep] being killed by the Collector's merely pissed him/her off.
@davidday1110
@davidday1110 3 жыл бұрын
Really helps if you play femshep. The deliver of the renegade lines come off way better with her VA
@LBCAndrew
@LBCAndrew 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I had a hard time shooting Mordin in the back when i played ME3 as renegade.
@adrielic_
@adrielic_ 3 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to play 100% one or another. Full renegade is an asshole and you loose so much content, interactions and wholesomeness. Full paragon is too much of a pussy IMO and I think it's boring. Renegon is the best way.
@ElladanKenet
@ElladanKenet 3 жыл бұрын
Would this be considered the 'canon' version of events for this mission? There's so much unique dialogue, I'm tempted to try it when Legendary Edition comes out.
@MrSpartanspud
@MrSpartanspud 3 жыл бұрын
Unlikely. There's just so much unique dialogue because it wouldn't make any sense for it not to be acknowledged.
@TheOnceandFutureJake
@TheOnceandFutureJake 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can even bring Legion to that mission without changing the game code.
@orrthehunter
@orrthehunter 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOnceandFutureJake Tali loyality mission can be done with Legion after you recuit Legion. The game gives you two Major Missions timer before the events that lead to the suicide mission happens so you basically recuit legion last and after you just complete both Tali and Legion Loyality mission after then the event where the crew is taken happens.
@KappaKiller108
@KappaKiller108 3 жыл бұрын
@@orrthehunter If you don't care about rescuing the crew you could do it so you bring legion on every loyalty mission, It's a wonderfully flexible game
@Zomdra
@Zomdra 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, there's no true, single canon in Mass Effect (at this point anyway, we'll see what ME4 does) but even if there was I don't think bringing Legion here would be canon. It feels _really_ inexplicable that any version of Shepard would choose to take it there since it's so obviously a bad idea. It's like choosing obviously incorrect squadmates for tasks on the suicide mission; sure you _can_ do it but it's inconceivable that Shepard could be that stupid.
@mordha86
@mordha86 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I never get enough dialog with Legion because he’s always the last team member I pick up 😂
@lewismartin3430
@lewismartin3430 8 ай бұрын
Same and that's because of the reaper IFF countdown. If you could choose when to start the install THEN the two mission timer begins it would be so much better
@Empiro3
@Empiro3 3 жыл бұрын
I already knew what happens if you bring Legion to the trial having played ME2 a whole bunch of times, but I'm most impressed that it has an effect on ME3. They took time to write in a line that maybe 1 in 1000 players would hear.
@Dark_Voice
@Dark_Voice 2 жыл бұрын
I think there are way more people that tried this than you think.
@colemims6977
@colemims6977 Жыл бұрын
I remember being in tears laughing when I first did this. I thought about this possibility one night years ago and redid an entire playthrough just to see if it was possible. "Tali you're being accused of bringing active get to the fleet" "What!? That's insane." Lmao!
@mikicerise6250
@mikicerise6250 Жыл бұрын
I'd never do anything like that... before today!
@crazypomp927
@crazypomp927 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that it impacts ME3 is the best part imo. That is an extreme level of care with storytelling.
@liamclarke91
@liamclarke91 3 жыл бұрын
"Get that damn thing off my ship!" "When I take Tali aboard council stations, the customs guys sometimes call her 'that thing'."
@dogegaming9036
@dogegaming9036 3 жыл бұрын
I hate that getting Legion is tied to how many crew members die in ME2, forces you to get him right at the end if you want the best ending. Edit: I am referring to your non-combat crewmates like Kelly Chambers and Dr. Chakwas, not the ME2 Squadmates that go with you on missions.
@orrthehunter
@orrthehunter 3 жыл бұрын
you will have atleast two missions to complete before you have to make the choice to go after your crew once you recruit Legion. That is enough time to finish Tali and Legion loyality mission but yes you have to get Legion last if you want everyone to survive.
@TheNocturnal1
@TheNocturnal1 3 жыл бұрын
orrthehunter and to Romance Tali before mission start
@AnimeShinigami13
@AnimeShinigami13 3 жыл бұрын
There's a mod called Mass Effect 2 Recalibrated, I just don't know how to install it. It lets you get Legion at any time after you get the Reaper IFF mission by giving you control over when to install said IFF and opens up Illium early so you can get Thane and Samara before Horizon. I'm pretty sure you can recruit Tali early too.
@jamesashlee1784
@jamesashlee1784 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnimeShinigami13 it’s been a while since I’ve played mass effect 2, but I’m fairly certain there’s a mod manager similar to what dragon age origins had. It’s either in the games files already, or you have to install it separately. It’s either that, or I remember there being some very detailed installation instructions in the files of the mod itself
@johnnyboogalo4897
@johnnyboogalo4897 3 жыл бұрын
There was cut content where legion was going to be one of first squadmates you get in fact it was the geth who bring shepard back to life in that cut content.Would have been cool to see that
@jaroslavmihok740
@jaroslavmihok740 3 жыл бұрын
this is reason why Mass Effect is Legend and Bioware too despite all bad things ...
@ThrdSonofSparda
@ThrdSonofSparda 3 жыл бұрын
I bring Legion on Tali's loyalty mission all the time. Just to piss off the other Quarians.
@JyujinPlus
@JyujinPlus 3 жыл бұрын
Really makes me happy that Koris discusses peace with Legion. I wish he tried to make a more serious case for it but still
@orwinbeane4171
@orwinbeane4171 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds of when I brought Nick Valentine to the Prydwin in Fallout 4.
@jordanwilliams676
@jordanwilliams676 3 жыл бұрын
Tali'Zorah:I would never bring an active Geth onboard. Shepard:It's true, she wouldn't..........but I would, for the lols.
@mikec4529
@mikec4529 3 жыл бұрын
I played through this scene like 7 different times. I’ve never actually seen what happens if you DON’T bring legion
@YourCrazyDolphin
@YourCrazyDolphin 3 жыл бұрын
The intial step onto the ship is far more friendly, with the guard expressing sympathy for Tali's position. Koris objects to Shepard representing Tali, to which you can point out that he's the one who changed Tali's legal name... And thus the reason you're her lawyer. Background chatter is instead people questioning whether or not Tali is innocent, and commenting on Shepard's ability to handle the court. Admiral Xen still obsesses over experimenting on Geth, but just in general. Tali still calls her insane.
@Re.Configured
@Re.Configured 3 жыл бұрын
In this alternate dimension, Morrigan, Loghain, and Avernus are quarian admirals leading the remnants of a species trying to survive
@rachellejanssen2655
@rachellejanssen2655 3 жыл бұрын
This was from the old glory days of bioware, how times have changed...I can't wait for the remaster to come out!
@rachellejanssen2655
@rachellejanssen2655 3 жыл бұрын
@@frenne_dilley yeah I have to say, I bought the remaster. It's super awesome and all but the 11th time mass effect isn't going to be wildly different from the 10th time :/ I wanted to do a 100% back to back run, but I'm not even halfway in ME1
@Flameville
@Flameville Жыл бұрын
Looks like I’m playing this entire series again. My God what an incredible trilogy
@SirDonkle
@SirDonkle 3 жыл бұрын
Legion has some of the best lines of the trilogy
@healed1337
@healed1337 3 жыл бұрын
I did this for the fun of it on my first renegade playthrough, and I've done it every time since. Quite possibly the best extra squad mate dialogue in a loyalty mission in the entire franchise. Also always take Tali on Legion's loyalty mission. Best way to do that while still ensuring squad survival in the suicide mission, make sure you only save Tali's loyalty mission for after you get the Reaper IFF, do Tali's loyalty mission next, and then go straight to Legion's loyalty mission. Also make sure to get all of your ship upgrades and other hub planet upgrades before you get the Reaper IFF.
@guillaumejoop6437
@guillaumejoop6437 3 жыл бұрын
I remember doing this cause I was like "what would happen". Glad I did and that they took into account
@cinders5305
@cinders5305 2 жыл бұрын
Legions little head tilts, like a confused puppy are adorable. Like it genuinely doesn't understand why everyone is freaking out and scared of it
@DarKGameR177
@DarKGameR177 3 жыл бұрын
Now this was a fun video... Thanks for sharing this one Dan! Keep it up! 👍
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@battlesheep2552
@battlesheep2552 3 жыл бұрын
Last time I played, I planned it out. I knew after getting Legion, you could only do 2 missions before the Collectors abduct your crew and you had to go to the base immediately to get the best ending. One is Legion's loyalty mission, of course, the other is Tali's, which I saved just so I could bring Legion along :)
@deridionentertainment
@deridionentertainment 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I’ve played mass effect trilogy 6 to 7 time play through seen most of the video you have shown myself by playing it before but for the first time I never seen this or thought to do this as an option. Subscribed!!
@Joe-fq6bz
@Joe-fq6bz 3 жыл бұрын
So cool thanks for sharing. One of my favorite games I played many times and had entirely no clue. Never even crossed my mind this was possible.
@CKshouta
@CKshouta 3 жыл бұрын
You thought Tali brought active geth to the fleet, BUT IT WAS ME, SHEPHARD!
@zataomm93
@zataomm93 3 жыл бұрын
This was a "no brainer" on the second playthrough. I had to do it.
@sprzedawcapaczy
@sprzedawcapaczy 3 жыл бұрын
I am in awe. Seriously. I was not expecting anyone to dissect these things that much. Thank you.
@Hamoa
@Hamoa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, I never thought of it but it’s super interesting
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 3 жыл бұрын
Tali: I *never* brought active geth aboard! Legion: We judge this situation to be "awkward" Creator Zorah.
@getrekt3983
@getrekt3983 3 жыл бұрын
she says she would never "send" active geth to the migrant fleet. technically she isn't lying. she didn't send legion there, she brought him. there is a difference no matter how subtle
@bobyjoe493
@bobyjoe493 3 жыл бұрын
Man your videos made me go back and start a new game of me2
@moontotem8090
@moontotem8090 3 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video, thanks a lot Dan ! :)
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Survivor_of_DMVdrivers
@Survivor_of_DMVdrivers 3 жыл бұрын
I realize it's two separate universes / IPs, but can you imagine the banter between Legion and HK47 from Star Wars: KotOR? That'd be the best interaction EVER! 😊
@JesusChristDenton_7
@JesusChristDenton_7 3 жыл бұрын
I need to see this now.
@ghostofdestiny3179
@ghostofdestiny3179 3 жыл бұрын
I like the daily upload can't wait for legendary edition
@SERGIO5011gamer
@SERGIO5011gamer 3 жыл бұрын
your mass effect guides are the best bro, keep it up 🤟
@dreamgoat28
@dreamgoat28 3 жыл бұрын
That was hilarious. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
@IDontKnow-lo2tu
@IDontKnow-lo2tu 3 жыл бұрын
At 5:41 Legion nods in agreement with Tali. A nice little detail
@nostalgiclamb7510
@nostalgiclamb7510 3 жыл бұрын
BioWare went from "This platform is not available for experimentation" to "Anthem"
@SnapshotNautilus
@SnapshotNautilus 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I haven't done this before! Thanks for sharing!
@chunghinsun5899
@chunghinsun5899 3 жыл бұрын
This is a constant for all my play throughs. Since there's an invisible timer of 2 missions from getting to Legion to the trigger of the potential end game event, I always do Legions and Tali's loyalty mission within that time.
@ReinQuest
@ReinQuest 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment on how the interactions make this more immersive is why ME still holds a place in my heart that no other game can fill.
@Jesse12489
@Jesse12489 2 жыл бұрын
If you bring Logion they actually acknowledged him and treat him a lot better in Mass Effect 3.
@buffcanuck83
@buffcanuck83 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. 👍😄
@alibeknurashev1954
@alibeknurashev1954 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck, Dan! Just here to support
@jaysheriffe6292
@jaysheriffe6292 3 жыл бұрын
old bioware/ EA.....a time when they paid attention to details. We didn't know how good we had it back then :(
@roberttauzer7042
@roberttauzer7042 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaand still, best RPG ever made.
@117swordsmen
@117swordsmen 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the cid man. Didn't even know.this was a thing
@GordonShemway1
@GordonShemway1 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos man, I don't think Bioware gets enough credit for planning for all the intricacies that can happen over the three games. Especially for scenarios that most players would never experience without doing it on purpose.
@MoonbornUwU
@MoonbornUwU 3 жыл бұрын
I love Geth, by far my favorite species.
@quesocoatl21
@quesocoatl21 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're the most alien but also very relatable.
@rollin340
@rollin340 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. The ME2 affecting that line of dialogue in ME3 was some great detail from the team.
@idkkkkk5194
@idkkkkk5194 3 жыл бұрын
This game is an absoulte masterpiece I don't think there is any other game with such passion and attention to details.
@diealtf4378
@diealtf4378 Жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@ninachan8920
@ninachan8920 2 жыл бұрын
I strive for enjoying all the small details in the grand scheme of things when it comes to Mass Effect, Especially Mass Effect 3 which I used to feel differently about it's amazing how 10 years since you've played a game can change how you enjoy the game as you change as well.
@Jayhawker2000
@Jayhawker2000 3 жыл бұрын
"I never brought active Geth aboard! I Only sent parts and pieces," she says while standing next to Legion.
@Albert_hardy
@Albert_hardy 3 жыл бұрын
Love ur vids my dad showed me mass effect last year and I love the games
@Kevin_2435
@Kevin_2435 2 жыл бұрын
Admirals: Tali we accuse you of sending some possibly active geth parts to the fleet. Tali: hold my beer
@archangelgv2811
@archangelgv2811 3 жыл бұрын
When Legion said "Shepherd-Commander" on the Derelict Reaper mission, he was meant to be a squad mate.
@forceraider451
@forceraider451 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow this makes my feelings towards the ending of Mass Effect 3 even stronger. There should have always been a way to destroy the reapers without killing all sentient AI and allow for Shepard to survive. The game was always about playing it your way and Shepard was right when he said reaper tech was too dangerous.
@ladyreverie7027
@ladyreverie7027 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I would never use the Destroy option. I'd rather die than genocide the geth. Ever since I heard their story in ME1 I sympathised with them and longed to broker peace between them and the quarians.
@realquestforgreatness
@realquestforgreatness Жыл бұрын
The geth are alive in the destroy ending. At least in legendary edition
@Goremize
@Goremize Жыл бұрын
@@realquestforgreatness which doesn't make much sense "it won't discriminate" "also you have to sac yourself" "Also somehow the Geth are discriminated"
@lewismartin3430
@lewismartin3430 8 ай бұрын
​@Goremize maybe their rebuilt. If the mass relays can be restored like the starchild says then why not the geth
@joelongtin7532
@joelongtin7532 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling me about that.
@WebbanationX
@WebbanationX 2 жыл бұрын
I'da never seen this sheeit. Thank you
@thomasprout9298
@thomasprout9298 3 жыл бұрын
Damn game looks so good I didn’t even realize it was the og version.
@garyghost7169
@garyghost7169 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit man your channel’s growing like a Krogan, keep up the good work
@BigDanGaming
@BigDanGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@levitastic
@levitastic 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool indeed! Small stuff really helps with immersion!
@joelhodoborgas
@joelhodoborgas 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids bro
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