GASLIGHTING: A Masterclass

[@skeptik-ci5xo]

Jared totally threw his wife under the bus when he said none of her hobby-jobs ended up going anywhere. Hilarious.

[@BaddogSports]

Trying to prospect someone who admits they’re having thoughts of suicide might be the absolute lowest, slimiest most despicable things I’ve heard in my life. What kind of person does that?

[@XYZ_55]

Unfortunately there is a line of no return for many people. They don't care if you are just a little hard done by, or are literally on the brink. They just see you as an income source.

[@niklas2295]

I don’t think so. Most people recruiting do it because they try to uplift others. I‘ts rare that someone has some malicious intent I feel like. What do you think?

[@lotuseyedstudios]

@@niklas2295 in my opinion it's malicious to recruit people who are struggling with their mental health. It's predatory.

[@elizabethwoodley4340]

So I’m a lawyer and have a bunch of lawyers in my family. I also don’t know what the fuck he’s talking about that lawyers have a high failure rate. Like, if they found their own firm and it goes bankrupt? If they burnout from stress? Get fired? Decide to quit to raise a family?? All those things happen, but not to 99.9% of lawyers every year. Most lawyers make OK to great money their whole career… if he’s saying that 99% of people who want to become a lawyer fail to get into law school or fail their exams, then maybe? But I think for most of those people they can still get a real, paying job that uses those skills…

[@niklas2295]

I recently found a quote which might be fitting for these MLM bubbles. "Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!" (Sir Walter Scott, 1808) Found it very thought-provoking as these MLMers use euphemisms and double speak to lie to others. But ultimately, they are deceiving themselves by justifying their own business practices. Just a random thought to add to the conversation

[@xjbgforeverx]

Damn I can’t be watching you while I fall asleep anymore, my dreams are out of control 😂

[@Vilaun.]

You have the killer combo 😂 good looking AND most of all EDUCATED asf and you have em’ maddddd haha. You’re very straightforward, relatable and informative! Keep up the good work man 💪🏽

[@prwi87]

I just started watching, but what caught my eye was the "months in company" column, where for 5-star crown rank we have High=31 months and Low=31 months, which means that all 5-star rank started in roughly the same time. Given the high-low months values for other ranks it seems suspicious.

[@codysmith630]

Why dude in the voice message sound like he's about to cry? Lol

[@itsluke7]

"Jared, what the fuck does anything you just mentioned have to do with anything??" - legendary lmao

[@JayMaverick]

When cultists get called out on their lies, the tap dancing starts. It's hilarious every time. 😂

[@Boredblacksheep]

"To call it a cult is blaphemous", oh, he slipped and gave a crumb of truth 😂 There is no blasphemy without a religion of sorts

[@elisa-beary]

From farm to family?!? It’s dried powder!!! Come oooonn. 🙄🤦🏽‍♀️

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

There's another MLM as well that has the tagline "From seed to seal!" They can't even be original with their catchphrases 😂. Everything is just a copy-paste from another MLM.

[@niklas2295]

Thanks for mentioning me. Glad I could help you out

[@elisa-beary]

Marco I’d love you to do a video on the phone/internet monopoly!! I live in upstate NY & for years have talked about how spectrum has monopolized the game, their prices go up as their quality goes down. Their service is glitchy, the extras you PAY extra for rarely work when you need them & when you talk to customer service they treat you like.. well… like you have not other option & we need them more than they care about us. The second we get greenlight or any other reliable network I will switch that day!! Unfortunately, I have been saying that for years&years.

[@BaddogSports]

Switch to Verizon Fios. I did years ago. They’re not great either, but way better than Spectrum. Now, National Grid. That’s a monopoly!

[@benjaminaristotleboes3157]

1:55:20 It's definitely a study in both swindling and in abnormal psychology......

[@reflectionsAND]

On my day off I'm going to read ponzinomics. Thanks, for the information you give and the voices you play are funny 🤣.

[@Boredblacksheep]

I come from the Eastern EU and when I heard the prices people pay in US for internet I was shocked. And the speed and quality of service is much more trash than here. I could not believe it. Someone explained to me that it's due to overregulation that created monopolies. It's crazy - where's the "land of freedom" in that? Also the housing market is so awful due to overregulation as well. Y'all could have had decent priced houses, but development projects are being stopped so that the supply is kept low and current landlords don't lose "value" from their properties

[@thatchick1205]

I wouldn’t say the problem is over regulation. More like the wrong type of people making the rules. And the government just turning a blind eye to the issues at hand, and putting it off.

[@JayMaverick]

The problem is predatory capitalism and lack of consumer protection (re the internet, I mean). It's pretty simple in that regard. Massive lobbying to keep services awful and expensive. As for housing, it gets more complicated.

[@caesar349]

Bro this country has fallen apart. In every way. Not just internet and housing.

[@waldo4133]

@@JayMaverick no such thing as crony or predatory capitalism because capitalism comes from having resources and capital and those that do rule with power and influence. Socialism and communism fears is exactly what capitalism has brought . Dictators , no healthcare , no fair markets , endless wars for billionaire profit etc

[@dillonforsberg]

@@waldo4133yup. Capitalism requires constant profit growth and it’ll always find ways to do so even when it hits practical limits. The telecom companies, for instance, need to keep growing profits despite the market becoming saturated. So they buy up their competition, they lower costs to the detriment of quality of service, they raise prices because where else are customers going to go, and they lobby the government to increase immigration to add new customers for them.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

I love how when talking about the person who was suidical and didn't want to be pitched a frickin MLM in their darkest hour, she phrases it as "They weren't ready", which is blaming THEM for not wanting to be part of a pyramid scheme (and then also slyly made the comment of people liking to be a victim. Yes, there are some like that, but this person absolutely wasn't doing that). I agree with the assessment that no way did she actually become a licensed social worker and if so, she's not one of the good ones. We have seen a rise of doctors and nurses who also shill MLM's and then will incorporate their MLM into their patient "care" without the patient knowing they're being duped into purchasing with an MLM. A community had to take action against a doctor who was shilling Amari, a "mental health" MLM, on his patients. Sadly, he didn't lose his license, he just had to remove the videos where he talked about the company in conjunction of recommending it to his patients. Hopefully his damaged reputation will cause him to leave that clinic (or if its his own clinic, it's shut down).

[@HolldollMcG]

2:32:07 stoooop it with "loving on" people. Love on your dogs, love on your infant child. Don't "love on" customers or coworkwrs. Disgusting. Big Culty red flag.

[@shamyeezy349]

“Manager of the Marketing department.”

[@JellySnack97]

Excellent stream Marco. I hope these two see this and listen closely.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

Still watching, but for those voice clips, it honestly sounds like the guy is SO close to realizing he's in a pyramid scheme and is afraid of being confronted with that fact. It makes zero logical sense to be afraid to debate someone who is being sued by those who are pro-MLM if he himself is also pro-MLM. He's not the one that needs to worry about anything! But the back-pedling sounds like someone who realizes they wouldn't be able to win the argument (especially if they're the ones who challenged you to a debate in the first place). I hope the guy manages to get out, but if he's at the top of the compensation plan, that's not likely to happen. I still hope he grows a conscious though.

[@aloesecretinc]

Great work. 😀😀

[@elisa-beary]

So in a nutshell, you won the debate before even having the debate ✅ YOU’RE in hot water cuz of lawsuits?!? Ummm, no! You’re being frivolously sued as a means of silencing you BY an MLM & just knowing that I’d be horrified, not to mention nervous, that’s the industry I’m in. I’d think wow, I’m on their side now… is this what happens on the other side? Also, the second he blamed ‘compliance’ I’m like as the CEO? 🤔 You won 🏆🥇 case closed. Their ‘arguments’ ONLY work when you’re brainwashed, are only getting mere slivers of truth & won’t even hear of the other side.

[@BigDaddyDru]

The west is quite fascist if you ask me. Corporations and politicians have merged interests and lives. People often blame capital, but I think that’s an incorrect assessment. Fascism fits this reality so much more.

[@chesswithivan8346]

I absolutely love your channel man!

[@guacamoleunited]

Holy trinity: crypto, dj, essential oils

[@KatieB-0880]

You are doing such an amazing job Marco.... exposing these snake oil grifters!!!

[@skeptik-ci5xo]

How come no one told me that you can learn so many business skills while earning passive income? MLMers contradict themselves so often it gives you whiplash. Ok, this is my final comment on this video.

[@Kimmehface]

‼️FLIM FLAM‼️

[@erinfindsen4953]

34:18 I’m late to this party but he invited you to debate BEFORE he looked into you?

[@joshuat20k]

Good stream Marco !

[@Niles727]

Thanks!

[@AlwaysMarco]

Thank you so much 🙏🏽

[@Kero7th]

Movie watch night is a must.

[@lindsaykatz874]

I love you Marco!!! Its just "a lie" yes!

[@erinfindsen4953]

38:45 I’ve seen this video reacted to by several anti MLM channels…I wonder what they thought was going to happen. Are they really this naïve? “We didn’t know there was an anti MLM movement until we joined an MLM”.

[@niklas2295]

I‘m thinking they are trying to connect the powder to fermentation. (Maybe dry yeast) Someone could research it as I really don‘t care too much about it. But they are most likely babbling as you mentioned

[@JMMJ94]

I, a dj who trades crypto and other stocks on the side, laughed so hard at the "crypto DJ" bit 😂😂 1:12:07 so funny, she is definitly homeless

[@itsluke7]

2:38 - why wouldnt they let me target vulnerable people??

[@itsluke7]

holy fuck it gets so much worse, the biggest thing about mental health advocacy is understanding that your solutions are not someone else's, jesus christ this is awful

[@theretrobro]

I was in 2 different mlm's these two are literally just parroting every mlm self help guide/cd video etc tells them.

[@morimoko]

where is the second channel? would love to see that podcast.

[@AlwaysMarco]

Always Marco 2!

[@morimoko]

@@AlwaysMarco Thanks for the reply! sorry to bother you again but i couldn't find the live on the channel, is it under a name or are they not listed on there???

[@AlwaysMarco]

@@morimoko kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJjZqoGQmJibrKM

[@catz7679]

Voice message....says I looked at your previous interviews and knew I would get smoked, so I weaseled my way out of the interview.

[@9zamire]

i was straight up belly laughing at "Crypto & DJ"

[@charlesshattuck818]

Why does the dude have a sweatband on?

[@kerryrinderr]

to hide his receding hairline

[@elisa-beary]

When he says other channel does he mean in KZbin or is he just talking about TikTok. IG, etc?

[@Dabblur]

She's so high energy

[@MikeyDaRed]

This is mad bro

[@forestlimes4801]

Hey Marco! I'm not sure where to tell you this, so i thought I'd leave a youtube comment, but I have half my family in Amway and became entirely isolated from them. I have been in massive fights or totally avoided all together. I caught your channel more than a year ago, and you have basically become my life support. Unfortunately, there is a massive point that I never heard the solution for used by my family to justify their action. I know this might be too much to ask, but is their a way we could talk over the phone/discord? I need some advice, and you are the most well equipped person on the subject. Thank you.

[@ericnelson9100]

Have you consulted a mental health professional? You say half your family; is it possible with the family members not in Amway, can you stage an intervention, showing them how much they've spent versus how much they've earned? Plus, you can ask them what they actually learn from all those seminars and books they're made to attend/read; goal would be try to make them see all these seminars are the same and there's no specific training actually given. For what it's worth, you have my sympathy; there's no one size fits all approach and more than likely they'll have to come to the realization on their own. Unfortuantely facts are like what kryptonite is to Superman.

[@forestlimes4801]

@ericnelson9100 I appreciate the response, which was really good. Unfortunately, I wanted to talk with Marco about the circumstances I'm in and how i need to explain its importance. Amway is pretty popular to those in the south because of its similarities to religious cultism. Because of this, my sister, who is currently in Amway for 3 years now, doesn't care about the money/income. She views it as a personal missionary for God. No amount of reason can get through to her because Amway has taken my faith and abused it. So much so that my sister's upline had a breakdown and yelled at everyone in his group chat about how he was abusing the Christian gospel as a tool to further cement their trust in the "plan". MLM is becoming aggressively reliant on the trust people place in a higher power to manipulate their vulnerabilities, and people like me who still hold faith in God feel obligated to warn others.

[@niceshoes2008]

Hi Marco, I'm wondering if you can cover/ a deep dive into the company called" Legacy Builders " in the digital marketing sector. I feel that it's the same nevan as MLM.

[@ericnelson9100]

Is that like World Wide Dream Builders, the "tool" company for Amway started by that fraud Dexter Yaeger. Sounds sketchy AF!

[@ericnelson9100]

If you have to ask, 9/10 it is! I mean, have you ever suspected Home Depot, Macy's, Target, the company you work for, etc. of being an MLM? Probably not!

[@Niles727]

NOOOt NOOt

[@miltonallen558]

Lmao😂😂😂 @ 46:20

[@skeptik-ci5xo]

They keep interrupting each other! So annoying!

[@blakepowell5468]

49:28 the way he just cuts her off is so cringe

[@lmusima3275]

I think this guy doesn’t want to go on live with you because 1) he’s a coward 2) he wouldn’t be prepared for the challenging questions 3) he would likely get debunked and have no defence

[@skeptik-ci5xo]

You dedicate your life to anti-MLM. Where would you find the time to also run a drug cartel?

[@vegetibilis2422]

❤

[@catz7679]

They have to spin. Otherwise, they go into cognitive dissonance.

[@bamcameback]

These guys got smoked

[@davegvaughan]

Hey, i know that dave vaughan guy.

[@elisa-beary]

Raise your hand 🙋🏽‍♀️ if you think they’re jealous of Herbalife? Like jeeez, say Herbalife again! Can you say deflection? Don’t look at us, look over there.