Gaudy Night (Michael Simpson) - Episode Two

[@zzydny]

I was reading a news article this morning about the woefully ignorant manner in which we currently use language. Although it was meant to be funny, it also seemed to me to be distressing. Then I remembered the excellent wordplay and use of verbage in Gaudy Night, so I had to watch bits of it again to remind myself of the wonders of expressive speech. It is such a joy to hear the beauty of the spoken word with expansive vocabulary use, even when the characters are being disagreeable to one another.

[@eshaibraheem4218]

Quite.

[@aileen694]

zzdny, Just finished Part 1. Your comment made clear to me why I'm finding this so enjoyable!

[@zzydny]

@@aileen694 Thank you for your kind comment; you have made my day!

[@lauragranger9813]

“Full of beautiful thoughts. Full of bad syntax!” “Sounds dire!”

[@helenbirch5719]

If you really want eloquent words, read the book. They did a great job with this series, but they had to leave a lot out

[@EthalaRide]

This romance is such a wonderful uplifting breath of fresh air! As a 24yr old American, This is the first time I ever even knew about this series and I'm simply in love with it and the plots. Lovely characters, intriguing and challenging mysteries (normally I can figure out the twists right away, but I genuinely am just along for the ride with these ones), and interesting production as I'm not used to the late 80s BBC look. It's interesting to me that; the base of these novels is the mystery sleuth Sherlock Holmes archetype for inspiration, but taken out of the late 1800s and brought in more "modern" setting and concepts of the 1920-30s, and then adapted as a period peice using the "contemporary" filming styles of the 1980s (100 years after Sherlock Holmes hit the pages). So there is just this layer and layer and layer of decade-stylized stampings on the presentation, like rings on a tree, and it just feels _old_ but not in any way in particular, and especially not a bad way. In a way that makes me somehow believe the genuineness of the storytelling _as if it were real. _*_complete investment and immersion._* As opposed to a stylistically modern period piece show, like The Knick, Peaky Blinders, or Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries (all WONDERFUL shows, but they feel like tv, while this feels _real._ more like the connection you get while watching a play, but more close up and intimate.

[@jbloveday9538]

Lovely to watch a movie where the musicians are actually playing their instruments! As well as all the other great things of course,!

[@alisahale6017]

I’m an American, and I love these series! I also love her books. The romance between Peter and Harriet is deeply moving and perfectly told.

[@tootsiefrootsie5987]

There are lots of comments on here about the faithfulness of the play to the original book. There always have to be concessions to dramatisations’ budgets etc and time constraints and whilst that is a shame ( I’ve read all the DL Sayers books) I think that these adaptations are succesful and that Harriet Walter and Edward Petherbridge make delightful and charismatic characters. Thanks so much for uploading these.

[@rameyzamora1018]

"I forwarded it to my future address. By way of the fireplace." Luscious!

[@veraoliva4871]

Good for you!!

[@pegirish3315]

I am from the USA. This series is excellently done. The actors did an amazing job and thankfully they kept the feel of the time in which it was written.

[@pedritatulica]

I've read and enjoyed very much all Dorothy Sayers' novels. Some of them, I read more than twice. "Gaudy Nigt" was one of them. Edward Petherbridge's Peter Wimsey, IMO, is perfect. I'm Brazilian and, although I've had experience with British eople and read a lot (I mean, a lot!) of all kinds of British literature books, I'm sure I must miss a lot of interesting details. But I love it! I loved the book and I'm enjoying the movies!!!

[@charleslcovell6789]

The chemistry between Edward Petherbridge and Harriet Walter as Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane is magical. But there is also much subtle chemistry going on between Lord Peter and Bunter, as witness the scene on the train in Germany and its embodiment of the complex dynamics of the English class system during the interwar years. Richard Morant is a brilliant Bunter, and no mistake.

[@Gwailo54]

Bunter is a strange character. He was Lord Peter’s Batman in the trenches. He also is sympathetic regarding his shell shock which in one Carmichael episode is not homoerotic but it crosses my notions of male behaviour of the time and the social divide between the two. Bunter is literate and on occasion outshines Lord Peter. Sayers seems to delight in questioning much that is assumed as unassailable.

[@longcastle4863]

Saw it more as awkward than chemistry rich

[@lookeron5393]

Yank here. Big fan of Agatha and Doyle. I recently discovered these and they are wonderful!

[@leschurchill804]

This is a very good episode, it clearly demonstrates DLS's feelings about her future. She stopped writing modern novels, to go into academia, herself which caused much distress among her fans at the time. Thus, much of Gaudy Night is a reflection on her academic leanings, and how she successfully worked it into the story. As always the acting is superb. Ms. L. Churchill (USA)

[@glen7318]

no, she didn't. She gave up writing detective fiction and started to write plays, mostly on religious themes. She never worked in "academia" except for a few jobs as a schoolteacher....

[@graceland9223]

Harriet Walter is so good with Edward Petherbridge this is proper acting look at the face expressions

[@davidstankiewicz2049]

Shame not to see more of beautiful Oxford if its supposed to be set there. Love the class of grace, sophistication, and intellect.

[@cmarq817]

Dorothy L. Sayers is my favourite mystery writer and I just love Lord Peter and Harriet Vane’s stories. Thank you for uploading these videos. Obrigada 🇵🇹

[@robertrosenberg6900]

Petherbridge and Walter are the ultimate Lord Peter and Harriet Vane Plus, the settings are totally of the time Plots stick to books and have a beautiful pacing Can this be improved Give me a break Wonderfulness

[@kevanbowkett1857]

Harriet Walter and Edward Petherbridge are pretty much perfect as Harriet Vane and Lord Peter Wimsey.

[@pattwhite825]

Exactly written, produced and filmed. I enjoy the language, mannerisms, characters, and plots. They do a great deal of work introducing the mystery. Most Americans are used to the fast pace of what we get as bloody murder mysteries. We receive a fast pace plot, unsavory characters laced with no manners and foul language. I am older and love that I have time to see these wonderful mysteries expand into a who did it. .

[@carriew7921]

Ahh the days of superb acting

[@amherst88]

Thanks for the upload -- nothing can compare to the novel itself though (or Ian Carmichael's performance of it in the audiobook). The story is much richer and more complex than the abridged and altered version here. It is wonderful to see them embodied though :)

[@michellehertzberg8045]

One of the BEST examples of how women deal with each other, right up to the present times.

[@mfjdv2020]

I am sorry to say you're right, Michelle. Fortunately, there are many exceptions to this and many women who do behave normally.

[@teresabarbieri3894]

A bunch of bitter, spinsters who talk rubbish.

[@mathewgreen4099]

Excellent series, many thanks for posting.

[@lechat8736]

How can one not fall for Lord Peter Wimsey??!!!

[@chiccachannel]

For THIS Lord Wimsey... if you look at Carmichael's you will understand

[@elisecurran9497]

@@chiccachannel I like Carmichael a lot, especially in Murder Must Advertise, but I find him less subtle than Petherbridge, less complex. For me, that misses the mark a bit as far as the way Sayers wrote him.

[@intothenight756d47]

I just don't get this iteration of LPW. I keep thinking about how Ian Carmichael would play him in these "movies". Edward Petherbridge is far from sublime. It is the storyline and the quality of acting overall that is engaging.

[@lizellevanzyl2508]

Ive come to like them both. My first introduction was Ian Carmichael. I was surprised to learn when this series was made. Later I saw Edward Petherbridge.

[@lizellevanzyl2508]

I know I have fallen very hard for Lord Peter. (that is I've fallen for Edward Petherbridge playing LPW) 🫠

[@ellenblais6822]

These stories were written in the late 20's & 30’s. Enjoy the actors, stage of dress. The history and the mysterious....who done it. These short stories are fantastic......put on film... Of course the books have more information and twists and plots are more involved ....Enjoy

[@Warrendoe]

I wonder if the majority of the negative comments are from viewers in the USA? Can I just point out these stories were written as novels between 1923 and 1937 using the language of the time and reflecting the social customs of the day. The producer and director of stayed very close to the original novel but there is A degree of abridgement to fit it in with three short episodes; the novel itself has a much more complex plot, and a stronger investigational role for Harriet. Also these were made over 30 years ago so none of it is going to feel like current 21st TV and for many of us, me included that's a really good thing

[@TheGypsyVanners]

What I love about being exposed to work like D. Sawyer's either the actually books or work like this rendered from them is the exposure to the words and attitudes that are not contrived or concocted. When you read work that was written in 1923 about 1923 -as an example - it was honest and contemporary. It is transformed today by and large as a time capsule on how people spoke and thought. It's the little things, like some of Lord Peter's comments to Bunter, which are revealing about how society was structured. Many things the authors take for granted as "real life" - almost 100 years later make them worth reading as a kind of anthropology.

[@TheGypsyVanners]

What I love about being exposed to work like D. Sawyer's either the actually books or work like this rendered from them is the exposure to the words and attitudes that are not contrived or concocted. When you read work that was written in 1923 about 1923 -as an example - it was honest and contemporary. It is transformed today by and large as a time capsule on how people spoke and thought. It's the little things, like some of Lord Peter's comments to Bunter, which are revealing about how society was structured. Many things the authors take for granted as "real life" - almost 100 years later make them worth reading as a kind of anthropology.

[@PCplays99]

@Warrendoe I'm a USA American and just found these on youtube. They are delightful. But then I am very partial to all things English. I had never seen Harriet Walter as a young woman before. She was very attractive. I've only seen her on Call the Midwife.

[@mfjdv2020]

patricia chaissonne, we aren't all prejudiced ... very glad to welcome people like you who enjoy the series, no matter what country they happen to be from.

[@Warrendoe]

patricia chaissonne thank you and I’m so glad you like these. Have you heard the audiobook versions of the other Dorothy L.Sayers stories? They feature a different cast but they’re really well done as pieces from the Golden age of detective fiction.

[@alcoholfree6381]

Lord Peter puts in an appearance in the last five minutes. Hopefully he is going to pitch in his help to track down the naughty person. He also repeatedly tell Henrietta Vane that he loves her; hopefully he can melt her icy heart. They seem like they could be a lovely couple? Great episode.

[@medinalba]

enjoying this serie a lot. Thank you.

[@ameryek.9607]

Thanks for posting! Perfect for watching with a pot of tea and scones and Oxford marmalade.

[@Muttonchop_USA]

Scones, in my experience are generally dry as dust. I'd prefer fig jam on cinnamon raisin bread...and China not India (with lemon).

[@tootsiefrootsie5987]

Marmalade is for toast. Scones are served with clotted cream and jam.

[@VLind-uk6mb]

@@Muttonchop_USA India. The ONLY kind.

[@lizellevanzyl2508]

OK! Now want Scones with strawberry jam and cream! 😅

[@marysmith8876]

Thank you. I'm really enjoying this

[@MsLemonPeach]

Nice to hear my language. Peter spoke good german. Nice dialect.

[@sageryan5819]

One of my favorites. Thank you for sharing.

[@gloriabuczek4504]

I LOVED THE SERIES! The production did stay close to the book and was very engaging.

[@nancycrayton2738]

I agree. My one and only complaint, and it cannot be helped with a made for TV production, is that is an abridged version. Dorothy Sayers was a wonderful writer, and these characters had so much more to say to one another, not just in words but in looks and body language, that scripts just cannot convey. So, I wish those who complain about Harriet treats Peter would read the books.

[@peteredwards4394]

@@nancycrayton2738 Absolutely correct.

[@Setebos]

I only wish Busman's Honeymoon could've been adapted as well.

[@judytheobald8704]

I have enjoyed reading all D Sayers books very much and glad to find the series so well characterised and acted

[@oldgringo2001]

5:00 "Fred and Adele"-- This would be Fred Astaire with his original dance partner, his sister Adele. When she got married and broke up the act. Fred decided to try the movies.

[@ChildofGoodFortune]

Wonder how that turned out...

[@oldgringo2001]

@@ChildofGoodFortune Accordng to Fred, he was told at frist: "Can't act, can't sing, can dance a little." BTW, Astaire's real name was "Fredericick Austerlitz".

[@maggiesmith856]

The Critics all said that Adele was the talented one, but she was never filmed, so we are left to wonder if they were all crazy.

[@anneroy4560]

@@maggiesmith856 Fred said she was ... he was in despair when she broke up the act to marry ... a titled Englishman ...

[@jeanettesdaughter]

A good story is a good story is a good story carried by well realized characters speaking as they are or were most likely to speak. Dated? Not the heart of the matter. Pay attention. People don’t change all that much place to place, time after time. Same seven deadly vices apply, virtues too! Btw: I attended an all women’s college. Deadly and heavenly both at the same time depending... No murder as far as I know except self murder, but much of everything that could go wrong did go wrong from time to time with the same compulsion to avoid scandal and of course, keep the endowment safe. No such thing as ordinary life in a women’s only setting. No escape from it either.

[@lechat8736]

@jeanettesdaughter Yes, I agree. Furthermore, put more than five women (or less) of any level of education into an isolated environment for a certain amount of time and after a short while, you will be able to observe the slow but persistent rise of backstabbing and intriguing behavior which will subsequently develop into numerous and very unpleasant quarrels, drama and consequently resentment, sometimes followed by a river of tears, emotional outbursts, even nervous breakdowns. Women who work in such, more or less, closed environments are very likely to suffer from depression and various other illnesses. All this is based on facts and can be verified by almost any woman who has ever worked with many women simultaneously. It is an unpleasant truth, but there it is.

[@gplunk]

Having served in a woman-centric business run environment for several years; you'll hear no quarrel from me....

[@azariahstonar2787]

Awesome Helping me in isolation 11/18/2020

[@mfjdv2020]

I think you would also enjoy the other two videos in this Lord Peter Wimsey-Harriet Vane series: Strong Poison and Have his Carcase. They are here on KZbin. Wishing you courage in isolation. Stay safe!

[@shahancheong9792]

"Chancellor Bruning" is Heinrich Bruning, who served as Chancellor of Weimar Germany from 1930-1932.

[@aspassiaman9081]

I was very happy to read in an article that Hugh Fraser ( the adorable Hastings) is married to Belinda Lang (the lovely Agatha Troy from Alleyn Mysteries). I think that Harriet Walter and Edward Petherbridge would make a wonderful couple too, they are so elegant and witty both of them!☺

[@mfjdv2020]

Belinda Lang also appeared in 'To serve them all my days' if I remember right. She played Beth, Davie Powlett-Jones's wife. But I must check that it was indeed Belinda.

[@lou-nc4rc]

I didn't care for the Alleyn Mysteries. Agatha seemed to be cranky most of the time.

[@decodolly1535]

@@lou-nc4rc TV, books or both? I like Troy in the books but don't like the way she is portrayed in the TV adaptations. I also don't care for the way the TV version shoe-horns Troy into stories in which she never appeared in the original books.

[@susansurles3776]

I was on a walking tour lead by petherbridge many years ago. He was married to an actress, and quoted poetry about her the whole time. Very romantic. I really liked the other peter better.

[@lizellevanzyl2508]

I could listen to him quote poetry all the time ❤😅

[@Mancheguache]

superb!!

[@shiva2731]

2024 and I suddenly realize I miss hearing intelligent conversation

[@donnarogers7732]

O fovdo Enjoy the British Mysteries and the Authors of the stories. I can be held in suspense thru the entire plot. Most of the time st thst exact moment ,I see theu that Ever Present London Fog and All becomes Clear and Enjoyable. Thank You Very much for introdueing me to Lord Wimsey and Mr. "Bunter". Well played and enjoyable to the very end! Cherrio‼️✌️🇬🇧💙♥️👍🤗

[@mikaericson726]

By far the best adaption of the novel ! read the book

[@spinrash6000]

thanks for the upload i lve for these classics

[@walkerhjk]

It is unfortunate that the copyright for 'Busman's Honeymoon' is held by America. The only movie/Video is a completely unwatchable exercise. Why it was not produced by the present team is rather disappointing. They would have been able to continue with the same style and quality instead of the disaster that was produced in the USA who have absolutely no idea of appropriateness.

[@carrieowen5895]

For young ladies of quality, they certainly bang their cutlery around with gusto.

[@lublondon]

The upper class academic posh English is just adorable .... perfectly applaudable 😉

[@sheibanineda2488]

Totally agree. The last time I visited London (3 years ago) I almost had to apologise for speaking correct English with a "posh" accent. Thanks for the upload. 🎉

[@danceswithbadgers]

Bunter's coiffure seems a bit whimsical (!) for the period.

[@sandysavelli9950]

good series..........i would be drunk every day all the wisky they drink.......lol

[@IanGettings]

What's interesting is that even though Wimsey is clearly a main focus, and Harriet does spend time thinking about him, she doesn't spend her whole time referring to him. Might pass the Bechdel test.

[@patgee2139]

Great, thanks

[@marshaflores2923]

I’m so in love with Lord Peter. And I’m an American.

[@Muttonchop_USA]

Dorothy L. Sayers was in love with Lord Peter. That's why she wrote herself into the novels and called herself Harriet Vane (vain).

[@lechat8736]

@Marsha Flores I feel you...LOL

[@anneelliott3431]

Me too.❤️🌹❤️🌹

[@lizellevanzyl2508]

Me too😅

[@lnongtraw6852]

There is so much tea👍

[@joieashley1951]

USA I ABSOLUTELY LOVE ❤️ THE WORLD OF Beautiful BRITISH FILMS 👍👍🤗

[@shelbynamels7948]

Moving not too far from academia, Harriet Walters plays the headmistress of a girls' boarding school in the Poirot mystery "Cat Among the Pigeons".

[@peteredwards4394]

Most enjoyable.

[@venkateshrajeurs1925]

giọng của Đức Phúc nghe ấm và nhẹ nhàng nhưng vẫn đầy trầm tư nội lực!! Like this version!!

[@annabelfaulkner]

The British movies are true to the books unlike the Hollywood remastered versions that make me angry when they get everything wrong.

[@rachelmayes298]

When the BBC made good drama, unfortunately now it’s just rubbish and I never watch the tv anymore. Brilliant actors and actresses whom I recognise by sight with some of them. I would have loved to have been around in the 1920’s where the world was changing and just after ww1. They will most certainly have had many problems but I’m sure 2024 is much worse period to live in than then. Thank you

[@gplunk]

That; as the old saying goes, depends on one's own circumstances....

[@VLind-uk6mb]

That woman who plays Flaxman could not act her way across the street with a green light.

[@SerkanSonel]

38:28, Excerpt from VIRGIL, Aeneid: No monster more baneful than these, no fiercer plague or wrath of the gods ever rose from the Stygian waves. Maiden faces have these birds, foulest filth they drop, clawed hands are theirs, and faces ever gaunt with hunger...

[@annehathaway2107]

Jeeze emergency powers being extended chillining from 1930s germany to global 2021...

[@Setebos]

I always enjoy the opening animation to these episodes. But I will admit to having a problem with the opening shot of Harriet walking away. Her stride puts me in mind of Frankenstein's Monster.

[@g.strobl4458]

That is probably caused by the programming that reduces the filmed material to a sort of comic book style. :)

[@elaineglendinning9297]

Although I enjoy this series I am beginning to dislike Miss Vane. In her quest and determination to be wholly independent she hurts the feelings of others and independence doesn't mean refusing affection or love. She has become self centered and bombastic,although I had a different view when I read the books and first watched the series. I love the period details and that slower pace of life. I think I was born to late.

[@nanettemorton4054]

Is Harriet using a ballpoint pen (or "biro") at 19:59? Did I catch the producers in an historical anachronism?

[@peterpiperpuppets330]

it's a fountain pen, popular at the time

[@decodolly1535]

Ballpoint pen was invented in the 1880s so, even if Harriet were using one, no you didn't.

[@ranjanivaradpande2821]

so much tea drinking !!!

[@Mavrilon]

It's the British way

[@Peggy65607]

Including smoking........!

[@Warrendoe]

ranjani varadpande well they're English...it's just like real life.

[@Warrendoe]

BOOKWYRM no it was written in 1937 and filmed in the mid 80s when smoking was common and accepted.

[@lucrtrvl]

Tea drinking was their way to facebook

[@lauragranger9813]

Casting hats on - who do you think would suit for these roles in a modern remake?

[@pegirish3315]

laura granger can’t think of any with the ability to be so full of class.

[@mfjdv2020]

Possibly Rufus Sewell as Lord Peter? But the part of Harriet defeats me for the time being.

[@Muttonchop_USA]

Benedict Cumberbatch and Jodie Whittaker.

[@cathyy6941]

Tom Hiddleston, can't think of a Harriet

[@lauragranger9813]

@@cathyy6941 she’s definitely harder to cast

[@charleslcovell6789]

The snide comment from the lady academic about the ‘impropriety‘ of a College servant being invited to talk in the Fellows‘ Garden sums an awful lot that was wrong about Oxford before the Second World War, and an awful lot about what is still wrong about this bastion of privilege. Classism is always hideous, and, in this story, it would appear to be present with some of the Scholarship Girls who made it up the social ladder, whereas it is absent entirely from the genuinely aristocratic Lord Peter Wimsey himself.

[@texasred2702]

It's not all that different from enlisted personnel not being permitted in officers' country on a ship.

[@judithmatthews8460]

He still felt it was ok to accept the privileges that birth gave him. He didn't need to accept the title some didn't on principle.

[@Muttonchop_USA]

@@judithmatthews8460 You do realize he's a fictional character, don't you?

[@lindamarshall-wc4yt]

They say that DLS based Bunter on Jeeves. But I think he was based on Polton from the Thorndyke books.

[@patriciajrs46]

I think this was a culprit who loved a male oriented world and resented the fact that recently she had no choice but to get training.

[@SophieBird07]

Refreshingly non Hollywood.

[@raphaelandrews3617]

A unusual mystery who done it , I wonder when this was made( or what year it was filmed in or where) as I think I have been to the college but can not remember its name,.

[@Muttonchop_USA]

It was published in 1935. Oxford, of course, is real. Shrewsbury College is fictional.

[@minui8758]

Going off the windows and the tower it’s Corpus

[@henrimatisse7481]

what does it signify when one wears the academic sash down the shoulder as Wimsy does in the last scene?

[@marichristian1072]

It just slipped down to his shoulder.

[@elisecurran9497]

Yes, slipped off, and I'm guessing that either he or the costumier thought that he should not readjust it while filming was going on. I have worked with directors, too, who tell actors never to touch their wig, pull on their skirt, etc while on stage, because they think it breaks character and/or draws focus away from the dialogue.

[@shaistakhalid7415]

Classic

[@lindamarshall-wc4yt]

At least it isn't the least bit like a Kay Scarpetta book. Which I find narcissistic to the extreme. I don't really like it when the person solving the crime happens to be the victim as well, with a never-ending nemesis to boot.

[@hana.the.writer5074]

Couldn’t they search the rooms for cut newspaper or find remnants of burnt paper somewhere? 🤔 It wouldn’t approve much but threaten the one responsible, yes of course. Still.. the situation is seriously terrible and someone must keep an eye open wide. Who wasn’t in their room last night? Why’s the person focusing on the writer and seemed to have forgotten about their first aim?? Besides, I think Harriet made a mistake barging in the chapel without saying a word knowing someone was in there. She could’ve provoked the mysterious person and watch out for herself. She could at least get rid of the heels. ☺️ A sharp writer is far more intelligent to take risks at ease. Anyways, now we know the person must be someone who knew she’d be in the library at night. That sure tightened the circle around three individuals. Nice plot but a bit weak with all respect to the late author. Enjoyable.

[@VLind-uk6mb]

It is a great deal more logical in the novel, which was butchered here.

[@elisecurran9497]

Oh, make sure you read the book; you will find it much more detailed and satisfying! It's much longer than her other Lord Peter books, and FULL of nuance, and of course, no television series could capture it all, or even close, unless it was 12 hours long.

[@samikirk05]

I'm trying to remember where I've seen "Matron" before & I'm so hopeless with names 🤔

[@VLind-uk6mb]

Try IMDb.

[@elaineglendinning9297]

I like Petherbridge as Wimsey the story and plots are wonderful and the acting is excellent. However I dislike Harriet Vane because she is desperate to hold onto her independence she becomes rude and obnoxious. I don't understand why she glared at Wimsey when he turned up. She needed some help. I also like the language some of which has disappeared or is disappearing to be replaced with text speak don't you know.

[@brendamiller8140]

👍👍👍🤗

[@alindley3128]

This bit with Wimesy and Bunter riding the train to Germany bears a striking similarity to a passage in that silly film from thirty years later that spoofs that Turkish novelist who wrote Snow on Cedars, with the female lead looking an awful lot like the barista behind the counter at Josie's Bakery in RacistSnowboundHicksville Town, Let's see...I can't remember the name of the movie at this point, but this second movie was directed ;by Joshua Bell dolled up as a director who'd gotten bored of practicing his Schradik...Oh, and the character who is supposed to look like my dad doesn't because his birth certificate is fake, and so he doesn't really have any Teddy Roosevelt in him at all, so when an actor is cast with Teddy Roosevelt traits to look like him (or like me, as the bignosed philanthropist guy was supposed to do in the movie The Age of Adeline, only I don't look like that, because my dad's mum is not who it says on hid Birth Certificate...) when an actor is cast to look like my dad by looking like Teddy Roosevelt, nobody other than myself notices the mistake. And I would never talk like the big nosed Teddy Roosevelt type cast as the Itialian Philanthropist in The Age of Adaline. Though I appreciate the writer's honesty in telling me what I already knew about his POW injuries, ....I already knew that. That's what the white coat is for, to keep me from knowing too much about that, or I couldn't do the job. Because those people lie when they say that the patients really want "empathy". They do want not to be insulted. But what they want more than empathy is to be "foxed". If you fix their kid, fix what was wrong, they don't really care about empathy as long as you're polite and cordial, and respect their point of view. So I didn't really need the Adaline character to say to the camera, "You can't imagine how much it hurt." I know. She's right. I work hard at not knowing so that I can do the job. I know as much as I need to know, to make useful inferences. Such as: The person on the planet with the highest tolerance in existance to neuromodulation torture drugs (i.e., neuroleptics, which kill those of us who genetically lack the enzyme to break them down), the guy with more of that enzyme in his liver than anyone else on the planet, who could drink a quart of haldol liquid neat, burp, and carry on, because all of it would lodge in his lever and be cledared, and not a molecule would get past his liver to his brain, is the scriptwriter, due to his legitemate therapeutic use of pain medication in the aftermath of his injuries. He's the one person on the planet who will NOT be killed, not even be touched, by neuromodulation drugs spraying in every home car office store school and church. We'll all be dead of the stuff, and it'll be him and the Stalinists left alive at the end...but no women, no kind, and no doctors, lawyers, scientists, or people with an IQ above eighty. The glop took fifty IQ points off JK Rolling's IQ before she was born (because her mum was from an Eastern Block country and only moved to England after she was born) and left her with dyscalculia, when she was supposed to be a science brain with an IQ of 180 , like Curie. Do you suppose the same guy wrote both scripts? Or is the resemblance merely superficial, as the resemblance between Bell and the scriptwriter is superficial, why they couldn't be half brothers, that's too unlikely and bizarre! And the resemblance between Bell's Mum and my poppadaddy is just superficial and unlikely. They couldn't be half sibs either...all mere coincidence. Mere coincidence that Bell's mum gave him the genes to avoid the nuttercuckoo fate of Rick Springfield, yet another half brother in the same genetic "pod". Almost makes one wonder, who was more prolific, Bugs Bunny or Bobby? (Bugs, not counting the progeny of Bobby's older brother, who was one of Bugs', as we know. If you include all the grandchildren, Bugs wins hands down. Pity that for every Mrs. Bell, there's a Rudy Giuliani, from a different donor altogether. But we mustn't insult Jane Pauley and Mrs. Cuomo, who are lovely people.)

[@katehobbs2008]

Why on earth!!! The first 81/2 minutes is almost entirely a rehash of what went in last episode. Aside from some off-storyline with Lord Peter on a train.

[@doralacet7908]

alguna manera de descargar gracias desde chile espero respuesta

[@patriciajrs46]

I love his car. Capitol indeed. Women murderers, shameful for any murder.

[@gda295]

will we go?

[@rutbrea8796]

The subtitles are very bad.

[@Offshoreorganbuilder]

Thanks for this. There is something surreal about these versions with Edward Petherbridge. They are interesting and attractive, but I prefer Ian Carmichael's performance. Ludicrous though his character appears, from a modern perspective, it is somehow more believable from my point of view. The least believable part of this video's production is the idea that Lord Peter would bother with a surly incompetent like Harriet Vane. I would have kicked her into touch after the first 3 minutes. And there is also the distressing detail of the Philips-head screws on the library door lock (at 32.26.) Still ... mustn't be picky!

[@TheGypsyVanners]

LOL. I'm always annoyed when say a US show uses an American breed of livestock, this happens all the time with chickens, no one ever seems to know care or bother with the idea that chickens come from certain places and TIMES (many breeds common today and therefore that show up in shows weren't around until the 1900s), supposedly show up in a show about Vikings raiding Scotland. If you know what I mean...

[@lighthousecollector]

I'm not sure when the Philips head was in use in the UK but as they were invented by Henry Philips in the 1930's around the setting of this story (originally written in 1935 ) can it be assumed that it's not a miistake ?

[@glen7318]

@@TheGypsyVanners I daresay they couldnt get Scottish chickens,.

[@ravarga4631]

A working class woman resentful of educated upper and middle class women who will not stay in their proper privilaged place and challenge the proper order which working class women can not do without risk of dismissal.

[@kathreilly7050]

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[@RiaLake]

Ms Vane's striped jacket is ill fitting!

[@kateking3953]

I think all her clothes are lovely, very stylish, but they wouldn't look very good on anyone with a fuller figure than hers.

[@mfjdv2020]

@@kateking3953 Harriet does indeed wear gorgeous clothes, and as you say, she has that type of willowy figure that looks good in them.

[@KarLaLoVe]

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[@SuperMiguelito2000]

I find the music very bothersome

[@lizellevanzyl2508]

Me too

[@Baskerville22]

Not a patch on the other two Lord Wimsey cases i've seen. Harriet Vane is a pain: boring and unconvincing.

[@Mavrilon]

Harriett Vane isn't very good as an investigator. She doesn't ask any important questions ,like had anyone died at the college recently or use a torch when going to investigate into the Organ room. She is supposed to be a mystery writer, but she shows no skills at investigation.

[@sjr7822]

As I said previously, acting is 'wooden' doesn't make for enjoyable viewing, but, I'm trying to hang in. This is my third try

[@Muck006]

The acting is part of the style of production, which is very melancholic ... even when nothing melancholic happens. Just listen to the music. That style of music was pretty popular for productions of that time and is meant to support the "mystery feeling". Sadly it doesnt really work.

[@TheGypsyVanners]

+Muck006 Good point about the actors and the music. There is a particular instrument being used in the last few years especially in sci-fi that will date the pieces instantly in a few decades. I believe one show that starts with it is called "Defiance."

[@glen7318]

She's not an investigator.. But the college dont want to hire a PI. And we dont have to see every detail of her investigation, we can presume that she knows that noone's died recently.. and even if she had asked outright noone would know who the person was who died, whose death sparked off the problems

[@mfjdv2020]

@Mavrilon: But Harriet never made any claims to being an actual investigator. Dr. Baring (the Warden) asked her to help in the matter, but Harriet always had doubts about her ability to do so. Besides, being able to write good crime mysteries doesn't invariably mean that the author would be a good investigator in real life. And Harriet eventually felt she had to ask Peter to join her to solve the mystery.

[@lynneelliott7471]

It's a shame that the music has ruined the show. I found it too annoying.

[@marichristian1072]

The use of the oboe is most evocative for a mystery .

[@anneelliott3431]

I found it most evovcative..

[@anneelliott3431]

I loved the music.

[@marichristian1072]

@@anneelliott3431 : As did I.

[@MrHbc3]

This treatment of Germans at the time this was written is completely absurd.

[@valeriefields7902]

It's also proven history.

[@pyewackett5]

Take into account the time the books were written. The observation was entirely justified

[@NarnianLady]

I noted that too. In reality I am sure most German officials would have been extremely courteous towards a British aristocrat. Germany back then also had their own aristocracy, and still does... Counts, dukes...and all sorts of princes.

[@vronlace]

This episode isn't in the book at all. I don't know why it was added for the film, since it adds nothing at all to the plot. It also means that we have to listen to an actor speaking German with an English accent, which is irritating anyway and particularly so when it's not even necessary for the story. As far as I remember, in the book Lord Peter's travel to Europe for the Foreign Office took him to Paris and Italy, not to Germany.

[@mfjdv2020]

@@vronlace You're right. I seem to remember he was at any rate in Rome in the book.

[@Holley88]

Harriet sounds like Lady Diana

[@matthewlovelock6928]

Is Wimsey bisexual

[@sheibanineda2488]

There we go again.... It is not 2024.😅

[@ferreday1]

There is only one poirot(David suchet )only one marples( Joan hickson)only one Lord Peter wimsey (Ian Carmichael).

[@ferreday1]

+hammertapping is this your convoluted way of saying I'm wrong in my choices of portrayed characters so what are your choices?

[@olrappaport7474]

+ferreday1 There's an audio book of Ian Carmichael reading Strong Poison unabridged which is completely captivating. His ability to portray the whole cast is a tour de force.

[@ferreday1]

+Ol Rappaport I will certainly listen to that recording many thanks.

[@Warrendoe]

AgathaPoirot I have all the dramatised full cast versions of the Peter Wimsey stories by Ian Carmichael.... they are excellent I can't tell you how many times I've listened to them but I don't know of any where he just reads them. They are all available on audible.com or audible.co.uk and were made by the BBC. If you're not a member of Audible it is well worth considering but whatever you do don't get the stories narrated by a woman can't remember her name at the moment I think it's Jane something. Her narration is truly dreadful.... and if you glance through customer reviews you will see that just about everybody agrees.

[@mfjdv2020]

I agree about Hercule Poirot, but disagree about Joan Hickson and Ian Carmichael. Ian is (or was) a really nice man and a good actor, but Peter Wimsey he is not and never will be. He was by far too old. In the books Peter is only 42 for heavens sake. Even Edward Petherbridge, although better than Ian, is too old, he looks about 55 at least.

[@SimonSimon-rn3tm]

The most dreary one in the series: all those extremely dowdy and boring old women!

[@marichristian1072]

Sorry they offend your sensibilities. A rather inspired portrayal of female academics of the period.

[@POLMAZURKA]

too much wokism in this....

[@edubois31]

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[@sheibanineda2488]

Totally agree. Already in 80's it had begun. Distorting real stories so as to please .......😂

[@mikejohnson599]

Lord its disgusting to watch all these young actresses smoking so deadly and nasty

[@lechat8736]

Oh, so it`s disgusting to watch the actresses smoke? What about the actors??? Anyway, it seams every generation needs its victims the society can point its fingers at... The Germans had their jews and nowadays it`s the Muslims, the overweight and, of course the smokers! It`s so easy to embrace these plattitudes because one hasn`t to look deeper into this sick society. There is a fact that`s conviniently left out in any public discussion and that is that most of the cancer victims were to start of victims of domestic violence, victims of overwork and victims of social and financial depression. The lack of love, respect, satisfactory private life and lack of siciolizing certainly doesn`t help to cure all the bipolar patiants nowadays! And how about all the Multiplesclerosis that is caught by people who never in their intire life felt a cigarette on their lips??? Why on Earth are we all here watching period dramas trying to escape the real world we are living in??? So, dear Mike, use the brain the creator gave you and try to think for yourself! Don`t fall into the trap social media and environment is providing. The day I die, I want to have the certainty that I lived a life in which I followed my own logic not the logic of the majority (that is controlled by those who profit from our ignorance) that made us sick in the first place. Sending you all my love from Slovenia!

[@lechat8736]

mike johnson My first comment is addressed to you :)))

[@mfjdv2020]

@@lechat8736 This character calling himself Mike Johnson is probably a troll. I keep coming across his comments on every single crime and mystery series here on KZbin and they are all exactly the same. He never makes any remarks - intelligent or otherwise - on the plot or the actors; he invariably posts one or two short sentences saying how terrible it is that some of the actors smoke. I wouldn't waste time replying to his comments. They are trite, repetitive, meaningless and superficial.

[@edubois31]

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[@matthewlovelock6928]

Lord Peter was gay Lord

[@sheibanineda2488]

There we go again.....