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[@Blades500]

The guy who wrote about his dad and the sex worker truly is a comedic genius. The way he wrote everything was flawlessly hilarious.

[@ssscoliosisgirl]

and the rainbow sock moment was so fucking wholesome😭

[@aced2728]

​@sydney I was surprised it was somewhat of a shared experience lol

[@arthurbarros5189]

Shayne almost let the tablet fall on the ground, holding his head

[@neutwho]

"Something that might arouse my father." PLEASE DO NOT!

[@mollusckscramp4124]

Hot take: I think he's actually a great dad, just an abysmal husband haha

[@silentvalley1395]

gay rat dress girl is definitely one of those girls who like, "wants a gay best friend" but like, in the mean girl bully with a pet nerd girl way

[@caithemburrow5569]

Thissss

[@silentvalley1395]

its been 7 months and i just came back to rewatch and recringe at gay rat dress girl, i did not realize i got 1000 likes so thanks lmao. also she's 100% homophobic but like in the 'learned it from parents and tried to unlearn it but really just went deeper and now acts like i'm okay with it but really i still buy homophobic merch at 60$ markup for prerelease'

[@silentvalley1395]

also the two gay 17 year olds is my favourite in this because its so sweet i love it so much i love young little love (between people of a similar age)

[@silentvalley1395]

also if you google it you can literally find a buyable gay rat wedding dress

[@DelphineCingal]

I was thinking she should have a Heartstopper Imogen “but I’m an ally” meme dress 😂

[@randompizza220]

I love them trying to use 1 blanket that isn't even big enough for one person for two people's laps. 😂

[@Armoure10]

Lol yeah, smosh pit, can you please get a bigger blanket for the wholesomeness? 😁

[@ennachow]

No I think blanket getting smaller with every passing video would be a great ongoing bit 😂

[@jakobmata7011]

​@@ennachow they keep doing that it's going to look like just a napkin on there lap

[@robo7643]

​@@ennachow dryer would help with that I'm sure 😂

[@goodolgrandpa7438]

That’s a net not a blanket sorry not sorry

[@kittywebs]

as a trans person, i understand them wanting to tread lightly on trans issues bc they aren’t trans, however nah the trans husband is a pos he 100% took advantage of his husband and the fact that as soon as he was healed he left? it is heartbreaking

[@ss.surprise]

Yeah, like even if his feelings did change like... absolutely pay back your husband the money he spent on your surgery. Repay his generosity properly. Being a man doesn't mean you get to be a dick.

[@Crusted_Punk]

Yeah agreed. I'm ftm and it's safe to say that guy was a manipulative a$shole who happened to be trans. Being trans doesn't excuse being a dickhead

[@ieatmemeswithoutmilk1337]

Yeah I got so pissed. I'm a trans woman with a trans man partner and the whole thing about "I want the gay man experience" he's been on T for several years at this point and even just one or two years T has WAY quicker and way more noticeable affects than estrogen so he had been living outwardly as a man (most likely, I'm making some assumptions) for a while now like he knows what being a gay man is like you just used your partner of 16 years

[@sourwitch2340]

​@@ss.surprisedamn. missed the chance to write "just cause you have a dick now doesn't mean you get to be one".

[@LeiaOrgana-uc7ei]

like imagine your wife of 16 years has cancer and you pay for her treatment, it works and her cancer is cured. she then proceeds to fucking divorce you because she wants to experience living cancer free.

[@JJStudixs]

The story about the gay couple that didn’t want to be labeled as a gay couple can be summed up to that vine that was like “omg, they were roommates”

[@DustyStarrs]

idk if you were making a joke and explained it a bit or you genuinely don't know but I just want to let you know just in case - that vine is actually a big part of the queer community lol, especially the online queer community, especially when straight people presume that people clearly a couple are just "good friends" or when queer people, possibly like the BiL and his roommate, where there's an unspoken understanding that they're clearly together. there's probably quite a few "omg they were roommates" comments on that post actually 😂

[@inventions178]

@@DustyStarrs Erm.... The vine.... where he goes.... "omg, they were roommates".....There was no need for the paragraph lmao

[@eyelashbug]

two brahs, sitting in a hot tub, five feet apart cause they're not gay🎶

[@yourlocalasshole352]

⁠@@inventions178 did you even read it? They’re just saying it’s a big meme in the queer community smh

[@MiotaLee]

Maybe it's their kink?

[@aos-anythingonscreen1158]

The Divorced Dad, The Virgin Son, and The Sex Worker must be a classics book in another universe

[@julion2902]

A divorced dad, virgin son, and a sex worker walk into a bar

[@MySkilletfan]

The socks got me

[@em-yu6sb]

there's actually a short film with this premise

[@moodybassist]

Three people walk into a bar. A dad, his son, and a sex worker:

[@Stanified]

the story of Chris Chan essentially

[@MegaAnimekitten]

The biggest issue with the first one is that she is CLEARLY attracted to her brother's boyfriend and finding her own way to act on it, and it obviously makes her brother uncomfortable. The fact that she didn't take her brother's opinion as it is and instead went to ask strangers about it just cements it

[@acleus]

Also, DO reverse the genders here. A dude being that touchy and pushy on a lesbian woman is already a big red flag. Then throw on top of it the excuse of "Oh my god, I was just giving her some compliments." That's some big cat-caller vibes on that excuse.

[@sarahwatson3192]

I don’t know that she’s an asshole. Im the token bisexual and Native Canadian friend, and I flirt with my friends, their partners in a joking way. If anyone tells me it makes them uncomfortable I do stop because boundaries are important, also my friends and family know I’m not interested in their partners because I can’t flirt with anyone I actually like, my brain short circuits around people I find attractive. I think she’s only the asshole if she continues after her brother said it made him uncomfortable.

[@sarahwatson3192]

@@acleus I’m playing devils advocate here. It depends on the partners reaction, if it’s out of no where, and the situation. I think the details here are important.

[@gentlyyhaven]

@@acleus Completely agree. It’s very weird - people are much more um, like they support women more and are more understanding with women in the LGBT+ community and I don’t think it’s called out that much.

[@Crazypixiness]

Yeah, ESPECIALLY with the shoulder rubs. That's doing too much.

[@marcel_arsenic2010]

Love how redditers will say "staying anonymous" "fake name" "throwaway account" and then say the most specific shit that anyone who knows them will know

[@Jmg5594]

😂😂 I always think this too

[@WowUrFcknHxC]

Right, especially when they reach the front page of reddit

[@gothbimbo9470]

i think the throw away account is so people dont find their actual reddit lol

[@Rabdom50]

It might be weirdly specific, but unless you actually use real names and/or anything tied to your real life, it's not like anyone can PROVE it's you unless you admit to it.

[@nataliebateman1151]

I know right ahaha

[@kurokugaming95]

I'm genuinely surprised the divorced dad story didnt end with the dad hiring a male escort for the gay virgin instead. 😂

[@fredstar-mw4tl]

I was terrified when he said ‘my dad knocked at my door’ and ‘my dad walked in’ I got terrified the dad was gonna try something 😂😂

[@deebee0225]

The dad was wanting to turn his son straight

[@kurokugaming95]

​@@deebee0225i didn't really get that vibe from the update honestly, dad even had rainbow socks?

[@deebee0225]

@@kurokugaming95 idk that's kinda how it struck me

[@RockyOtter]

@deebee8579 Except he didn't know his son was gay until AFTER the sex worker incident. He just thought his son hadn't found the "right woman". He wasn’t trying to turn his son straight, he naturally assumed he already was.

[@emilymorgan1994]

this shit is so much more satisfying than reading them on reddit by yourself.

[@better.better]

There's KZbinrs that only do this, my favorite is rSlash, and he gives a score for each person in the story... sometimes, an OP will find his video about their post, and reply in the comments. most of the others are read by bots or something, and I can't stand that.

[@ITSNYLAJ]

Two hot takes is a great KZbin channel that reads Reddit stories too

[@emilymorgan1994]

@@ITSNYLAJ oh yes. i love them! i haven't watched on youtube but i follow them on tiktok!

[@syra1541]

rightt

[@dylancole1910]

For real. It’s just draining by yourself.

[@threeleggedcat]

the dad hires escort story is just like straight up a sit-com plot, I cannot believe that is something that would happen in real life

[@Arctic_Narwhal]

I mean, it probably is not real

[@flivver2527]

@@Arctic_Narwhal right? It sounds very made up

[@khaleesireyna731]

​@Flivver that's actually what makes me think it's probably real. Anyone who's actually got a weird story like that that actually happens KNOWS most people will call fake... but you're also like "Did that actually happen, tho???". Truth is stranger than fiction... because fiction has to make sense and tell a coherent story.

[@Lisasplace]

it happend on supernatural once

[@flivver2527]

@@khaleesireyna731 yeah sometimes it is but think about it. Ignore the weird dad for a sec, why the hell did he(son) make noise with food in his mouth? What was he trying to prove or gain? He knew his dad was into that stuff yet he still did it anyway

[@samanthag1922]

the rainbow socks being a gift from the sex workers was truly the cherry on top of that whole insane story😭

[@chrissie627]

An Ally! 😂

[@LegoCat88]

I wasn’t expecting that, feels like a fever dream 💀

[@ebonyblack8109]

Like why is this guy's dad's friend group comprised of the women he pays to sleep with???😭😭

[@SpiderWithTime]

“Ally! :D”

[@beatricehughes7803]

Shane’s terrified ally ship throughout this video is sending me. Just the pure fear in his eyes, it’s ok buddy, say slay with your chest you can do it.

[@isabelcervantes49]

Isn’t Shane bisexual?

[@inoroth2001]

Work

[@breadbrothers4487]

​@@isabelcervantes49 Not that I'm aware of

[@ranjanbiswas3233]

@@isabelcervantes49 He loves being pegged by women. Is that Bi? I don't know.

[@neuroseptember1020]

@@isabelcervantes49 no :( he just looks bi

[@Tamara-ju3lh]

People are so weird about virginity. 20 is super young still, and there are other things in life besides sex and relationships.

[@soaringspirits2267]

I agree. The good thing, is that outside of the more joking mentions of it, ei, gamer virgin memes, (which I honestly don't understand, but you do you boo.) it seems to be dying off. Thank goodness. People don't need to feel objectified, or like they apply to some weird value system, just because some people have a weird obsession with idea. No person should feel pressured into, or away from, something so personal and, most probably emotional, no matter their gender, or lack thereof.

[@83gemm]

I was in a group of new people at a party when I was in my mid-thirties once. One of those, invited to the house of a friend but I knew NO ONE else there. Everyone was drunk, so we started talking sex stuff. I don’t remember how exactly, but it came up that I had sex at 19 for the first time. The whole room went SILENT. This one woman said, “19?!” I was taken aback and said, “Yeah….” They all then proceeded to roast me for the next half hour for “waiting so long.” I was like, “I’m in my mid-30s and still dealing with this shit?”

[@lookinforitall5366]

THIS!!!!

[@soup5634]

I'm aroace and I've never even truly kissed someone. This information weirds people out so much. Like is it so hard to believe that an adult isn't interested in that? And why do other people care so much what I do with my own relationships.

[@83gemm]

@@soup5634 it took me a long time to realize that people measure each other socially by their romantic relationships. Same as they do with finances and careers. There’s this set path of “normal” that people use as a guideline to determine if other people are doing well. If you meet a 20-year-old in college, you think, “That tracks.” If you meet a 20-year-old not in school and with no job, you think, “Ugh. Not doing well… possibly trouble.” If you meet a 20-year-old with his own company, you think, “Wow! Successful! Safe! Worth knowing.” They do the same with relationships. I think it’s another example of evolution being too slow for how fast human society has progressed. It used to be very important to spot differences in other humans because it could signify danger, disease, enemies, etc. But it’s got nothing to do with modern society. Knowing whether your friend or coworker dates, sleeps around, gets married, or does none of these things has no practical purpose at all. Tldr: People are just inherently nosey. 😂

[@kwiskwis1]

Her entire description of her brother’s boyfriend leaned towards her having a crush.

[@Zanescontent]

Honestly, it was in that territory of her liking him, but trying to cover it up with the fact that he's gay and that it wouldn't work out; which is true, but with what she counted as play-flirting I guess was really odd and too sus. If I were the brother and my sister did that to any partner I have, I'd be pissed, because honestly wtf?

[@darkamora5123]

​@Lizari Yotashi:) 🐷🎗 honestly if it was lesbian couple and the sibling was a brother who said "My sister'sGF is super feminine with a gorgeous face, a smoking hot ass and tits that wont quit (we obviously have the same taste in women). I'd never date one of my sisters GFs, besides she's a lesbian and wouldnt be interested. Anyway i was laying it on really thick taking every opportunityto brush up against her and at one point I pretended to trip and grabbed her boob and said 'Oooohh!' Later I brought her a drink and said 'Here you go sexy'." No one would hesitate to call that behavior creepy if not criminal and say that person was TA. Flirting with a family members SO is just weird regardless of whether anything would happen. Reversing all genders just clarifies that and shows that everyone is willing to give women a pass on actions we'd never allow men to get away with.

[@Zanescontent]

Yeah, nobody should be allowed to do that, regardless of the relationship whether it be a couple and a friend of one of the two or whatever kind of dynamic you can think of. It's screwed any way you think of it. Gender has no role when it comes to shitty, perverted people

[@lilyperkins2928]

@@Zanescontent and even if it was just accidentally piling on too much play-flirting and she can't read social cues, what matters is the fact it crossed a boundary for the brother. Respecting people's boundaries is more important than her being inconvenienced.

[@Zanescontent]

@@lilyperkins2928 Ohh yes yes, I would have added that to my comment lol yeah she definitely crossed a boundary becauseshe already knew it upset him but she then continued to go to Reddit to ask people that have nothing to do with what's going on. Super sucky sister if she can't respect her brother in like the simplest way.

[@SoggySub]

i think its crazy that the person who went through bottom surgery wanted the "full gay man experience," but was already married to a man who accepted them completely. The guy didn't even try to work through their marriage, just abandoned the person who fully supported them so they could get ran through for a few years.

[@dnddmdb642]

Shayne is the callback king. He just always knows when to bring something back up. What an icon. Work.

[@gimli_my_beloved8128]

work

[@treebark4504]

Work

[@chelsealangford8206]

Work

[@phoneticcargo2176]

Work

[@katjaboehm1911]

Work

[@shawnmisamore]

That last story made me unexpectedly emotional. As a 40 year old gay man who didn’t come out until I was 31, hearing about 17 year old boys being out and in love and gushing about holding hands is so sweet and something everyone should get to experience at that age. We’ve come so far in the community and it pains me to see the world try to take us backwards.

[@zayrickx]

this is the sweetest comment ever

[@jaredsimpson5262]

Work

[@microwavegum]

@@Yogurt_Fingers okay tornado 🌪️

[@tracyblanchard7663]

@@Yogurt_Fingers *_Looks at the fall of Rome_* "Ah, the gays are at it again."

[@Boyagony]

@@Yogurt_Fingers calling being gay sickness of the mind is truly a sickness in your mind. I hope that you’re just young and can over the sickness in your mind someday for thinking people truly loving others is somehow inherently wrong, you need to realise that our community will never disappear now, and if you hope it will then you’re basically calling for a genocide of innocent people. The amount that lgbt suicide rates have gone down over the years proves that what the world is doing for the younger generations of queer people everywhere is amazing, I hope sometime soon you can realise that it’s people like you who caused so many to end their lives for such a long time. You’re old enough to know how vile it is to think about others in the way you do, and you need to grow up. And if you don’t like gay people then don’t click on videos about them or invade their community.

[@nednimbus2361]

As a transman if my partner payed for my bottom surgery than I decide to leave them shortly after. I would want to pay them back for helping me out. That was an act of kindness and love they didn’t need to do for me. The least I could do is pay them back.

[@robsonrobson9905]

Same, like I'd have to get a loan to cover it but goddamn I'd be paying that back!

[@crunchevo8974]

Yeah, something about that story makes it feel like he financially took advantage of his husband and then dipped. "the full gay experience" is also such a stupid reason. just say you wanna have your hoe phase. maybe even talk about an open relationship or something.

[@KittyMax97]

As a trans man, I would never let someone pay for my surgery. Help is welcome but never fully pay for it.

[@Ohokk0]

@@KittyMax97 another trans unus :0 i mean i'm a trans girl but still

[@chickensandwich8808]

I was thinking the same. The whole situation itself is tragic but something to be accepted. The issue is the dipping out without the courtesy to repay. That, to me, is the only thing that makes me think the husband is an asshole. It might not be intentional at that point it feels like the husband used OP.

[@caitelizabell]

Update on the last story: OPs boyfriend suddenly took his own life. Truly devastating and I wish nothing than the best for OP. He has a very heartfelt post up on his account currently, but says he'll probably delete the account soon.

[@fgsq]

That's just so heartbreaking 😢

[@plant_jesus]

oh those poor boys

[@poppy-Jolie]

WHAT? I was smiling at the story and now I’m so sad, that’s heartbreaking

[@MommaOsoIrish67]

Oh my. That is so heartbreaking. For such a tragic end to come to a beautiful fairytale story. It makes me so sad for OP. I hope he has support for his grieving and will be open to love finding him again.

[@michaelgadsby]

Holy shit! 😢 seriously!?

[@gavinoutlaw7160]

Shayne’s nervousness the entire time makes me giggle

[@friendlyneigborhoodbean]

True heterosexual man in the room with two gay men energy

[@ImNotElijah]

He was truly treading lightly 😭😂

[@finclec]

He’s an ally

[@Vic-Valentine]

Shayne is the human embodiment of constant white guilt anxiety

[@familiarstranger9617]

he's always like that tho lol

[@helenlewis2510]

Transition story: the guy literally waited until he was finally healed to leave op and sleep around with other men. It takes roughly 8 weeks = 2 months. People can be trans and still be pieces of 💩.

[@NoThankUBeQuiet]

Bingo. Keeping in mind this person also fairly recently lost their mom. I'd fully be pursuing the surgery cost in the divorce proceedings.

[@isbammoi3358]

Making lots of assumptions on hypotheticals here, as we all are but: Yep. Like, what they're saying in sympathy is very real. But feeling scared and like shit for wanting to separate is no damn excuse to just drop the damn ball like that. SIXTEEN YEARS, of what seems like unconditional love. He likely wanted all reminders of his dead self to disappear. Even if that's needed is IS selfish. Not saying a single thing until RIGHT AT THE END is what really makes it even WORSE. I don't care how kindly you say it, or however grateful you are. Fuck you for that. 16 years of support is only gonna make your kind words feel like fuck all. The fact the guy used however much money from his mom's death for this, and is even blaming himself???? ugh, makes me ill. You can still feel like shit, want your life to change. It's traumatic, it's scary. But you just don't do shit like that. If he ever tries to come back to rekindle... I hope the dude says no. like jesus. If you ditched out of fear and not once tried to communicate that with a partner of 16 years... I got nothing for ya.

[@Luchabul]

My boyfriend's ex.

[@reckless_herb]

it really could be that he didn’t realize that till that point. he should have offered to repay though. i realized a lot of stuff after i was on testosterone and i expect the same when i go through with surgeries. i just wouldn’t let somebody pay for something completely from the jump, i’d feel weird about that coming back four months later, top surgery did drastically change my mental state. i would have left a romantic relationship if i had been in one pre surgery. i just know that i mentally feel so different, that im probably not compatible with the same people. my taste in people has changed again (it changed on hormones, so it just continued to shift) it’s life that relationships don’t work out, especially with huge life changes like major surgeries. he should have gone about ending the relationship in a much better way, regardless.

[@gooodmorning4526]

​@@reckless_herblike someone said though, there are three stages of transition and he's been transitioning for 8 years. It's possible that he didn't realise until it was complete, but the fact that he wants to "the single gay man experience" likely was something he considered long before then. Even if he did realise after the surgery, he wouldn't have considered it long before he asked for divorce. Like wouldn't you ask for separation first? You'd have to be pretty sure, and I think that comes with a lot of time and consideration, and he could have brought it up earlier than he did.

[@chancewill6910]

I'm gay and if someone showed up to my wedding wearing something saying "I support gay rats" I would be like "Are you calling us rats?????"

[@ambi5413]

FACTS like i was thinking the EXACT SAME THINGGGGG

[@Alpha-Maia]

I had the exact same thought!

[@kassiogomes8498]

But it's funny man.

[@allisoncastle]

@@kassiogomes8498 In the right context, yes. DEFINITELY NOT the context of a wedding though.

[@Milk-ck1wv]

rats are cute but yeah I understand

[@philmccraken]

The trans husband story broke me. OP absolutely got taken advantage of. The husband had to of made that decision years prior. You don’t just throw away 16 years of marriage to someone who’s fully supported you through everything. You have to communicate how you feel

[@elizahamilton5599]

I would of stopped using her preferred pronouns the moment I found out she used me for the surgery, that freak can go F herself

[@JessieorQuinn]

@@elizahamilton5599 I see transphobia

[@elizahamilton5599]

@@JessieorQuinn yeah that’s the point dumb dumb

[@poisonpenfairy2844]

​@@JessieorQuinnno, this person waited for their surgeries to be complete and paid for before telling their partner they were done. The timing is the most telling part. Seriously, it was the second they were out of the recovery window and don't physically need their partner anymore. Imagine if this was a cis couple, that person would be TORN APART for accepting something so huge - financed by the death of OPs mother let's not forget - and then AS SOON as you're recovered you dump them AND IN NO WAY TRY TO PAY THEM BACK. If this person truely had an epiphany moment post surgery they would at MINIMUM try to pay them back even over time. AND this jerk didn't say new identity, new life, Smosh said that, they said they want to experience single life in their new body. DISGUSTINGLY DISRESPECTFUL. OP was used by a selfish POS

[@Dolphinboi]

@@poisonpenfairy2844do you support the lgbtq community

[@silkshines00]

As a lesbian, Tommy's "hey" *arm movement* level of lesbian description was very accurate. I know exactly what he meant.

[@ryangray8075]

I JUST GOT TO THAT BIT AND OMFG ITS TRUE

[@yongcore_]

I'm a lesbian too and I understood it so well

[@astroblast2325]

I had a fully-formed picture in my mind with that "hey" alone

[@miafrancis69]

whats the time stamp ?? 😭😭

[@lucian374]

@@miafrancis69 40:04

[@la4251]

I think the problem with the surgery story is that it happened so soon after the surgery. They were together for 16 years, and then 2 months after the surgery he wants a divorce which is totally unexpected for the husband that was so emotionally and financially supportive? This seems really cold-hearted to me.

[@joylox]

That's my take too. If I were in that situation, as either side, I'd want to talk to a therapist first, or perhaps try a semi-open relationship where flirting is okay, or something, before breaking it off entirely. I've seen many divorces and usually they take a few months to see where people are at, and what makes the most sense.

[@lunawolfheart336]

Yeah that's really sus

[@Tony-ke2fs]

I genuinely believe there has to be a side of the story not being told, especially considering the circumstances of, if op is abusing them, it would make sense that that would be the breaikng point or the moment of realisation as to how bad it really is, because during recovery of surgery is where they need to be taken care of the most, it is their most vulnerable positions, abusive people almost always take advantage of these situations. And why do they seem almost more concerned about telling people on reddit how theyve done everything right and dont know what theyve done wrong, rather than just go to their partner and listen, it seems so goddamn odd. Thats a 16 year marriage, if I saw someone do that, id immediately try to seek support and therapy for them, because holy shit, having that 180 like that after a major surgery, op has to be goddamn lying because in situations like that thats when people go missing, people end their own lives, people who "was fine" was not fine at all. Like psychosis, anything could be possible, no one just does that, they've known this person for 16+ goddamn years and they are that chill about that part- Also we are only getting one side of the story.

[@madcap830]

@@joylox Yeah, I got an inkling of underhandedness from that one too. On whose side? I don't know. It may very well have been a "Eureka!" moment but that seemed entirely too coincidental to me.

[@theoneandonly9446]

@@Tony-ke2fsI kinda see where you’re coming from but I also think it might be a stretch? You’re completely right that we only see one side, and I don’t agree with people claiming that op’s partner is selfish for doing what they did entirely. Self discovery is weird and a lot of times inconvenient (it was for me) and not everything works out. But I also don’t think that this was necessarily an abusive situation? I think op was defending themselves in that way because maybe they didn’t understand why their partner was leaving them, which might just be the case. It sounds like op is cis so i don’t think they would fully understand everything their then husband would be going through. Idk, this would definitely be better to understand with more context and I don’t think we’ll truly ever know

[@martin4120]

Reddit post: Two best friends can adopt a baby Shayne: Immediately calls Damien

[@janaloff]

😂❤

[@thepineapplegal9099]

My sister and I had one of those spider man meme moments. She came out to me as bisexual and I just whispered “don’t tell mom, but me too” and it was so wholesome

[@riderroni]

There are seriously so many of us! We’re the biggest group in the lbgtq numbers wise and it’s so hard to see us sometimes. It makes me so happy those rare moments when it’s like oh yea bi nation

[@thepineapplegal9099]

@@riderroni exactly! A lot of people don’t realize that you can be bi and have a preference for one gender, because that’s made out to be not as valid, so they might think they’re straight or gay

[@mar420.74]

Fr my dad one time said, "I'll disown you if you came home with any women instead of a man." when in context my sister was making a joke, jokingly saying me and my ex-boyfriend getting married and stuff, no girl was mentioned but my dad still said if you start dating a girl will be disowned 👹👹 Funny enough, I've already been in a relationship with a woman(it was uhh) before and so is my little sister, so what is he going to do about it lol? It's already happenedddd... The prophecyy. Extremely homophobic man has two queer children.. Gayness

[@MissyHDoesRandomStuff]

I’m bi toooooo 💅🏽🩷💜💙

[@thepineapplegal9099]

@@MissyHDoesRandomStuff *virtual high five* lol

[@petersilienauflauf]

Please never stop doing this format. I'd watch hours of it

[@Tewse5990]

I want it in podcast form on Spotify so I can listen on my way to work

[@dylancole1910]

@@Tewse5990 true, that would be kind of awesome.

[@geoffreydevereaux3272]

My only issue is there isn’t more of these to watch already.

[@RagingUkeKazu]

Literally though

[@thisbrotherbell]

​@@Tewse5990 literally just like old Smoshcast days

[@marmiteghost]

mac and tommy having the exact same reaction to "gay rat wedding" is hilarious

[@Forest_Thing]

The story about the guy thinking he's suddenly homophobic because he feels bad seeing his roommate kiss other guys would've fit really well in this episode

[@vanillaplanifoliae]

i love that story, it's so funny

[@cole7726]

Do you remember what episode that story is in?

[@gudkush420]

I remember that story. Doesnt he end up dating his roommate?

[@primefischer6336]

How do i find this story

[@willmoyer8882]

Yes, tell us. I have a mighty need to read it

[@stephjovi]

Story 1 heard it before, she`s not flirting she`s sexually harassing his bf. Imagine if he did that with her. Constantly groping her and making her compliments and saying oh don´t worry I`m gay it doesn`t mean anything.

[@LeakyTrees]

I mean, given the context that was provided it seems like it was a mutual thing?

[@fernandaAaAaAaA]

i think what really pisses me off about the first story is how she's telling the story clearly trying to make her look good and her brother the crazy one for thinking something like that, i feel like she left a lot of things out

[@maximillianfradiani2996]

@@LeakyTreesit wasn’t. She admitted in the comments it wasn’t mutually. She also said men couldn’t be sexually harassed by women.

[@m.l.7558]

Is she stupid​@@maximillianfradiani2996

[@meeting_meghan]

my thoughts exactly and to read here, that she believes men cant be sexually harassed feels heartbreaking for the boyfriend who probably doesn't know how to say please stop.

[@deckofcards]

Weird that no one brought up bisexuality during the daughter thing. "She's been attracted to boys so she can't be attracted to girls!!" That's just biphobia

[@ainawbu]

bi erasure 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@madcap830]

It seemed to me like a knee jerk reaction to her frustrations. The "are you sure you're gay/bi/whatever?" conversation DOES need to happen, but I don't think that was the biggest issue. To me it seemed like the issue was this "suddenly girlfriend" trying to convince her daughter to drop soccer, which she has a scholarship for, that got her to college in the first place, that also guarantees her admittance. So your bi-erasure claim seems like a bit of a reach.

[@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat]

​@madcap830 Doesn't seem like a reach when she said to the daughter direct "You're not gay". Ei she wouldn't date a woman. Even though she is. All of the other things aside. Bi eraser is a common thing is the lgbt+ community generation op was apart of. It's the fact that she couldn't believe her daughter was anything but straight and not bi or anything else because she's had a few male celebrities crushes, and said to her face that she isn't gay IS an example of bi erasure.

[@madcap830]

@@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat again, not the main issue. but w/e agree to disagree

[@Ma5jay5dontxdoxthat]

@@madcap830 but "the main issue" isn't what we're talking about here. The main issue FOR THIS THREAD is the mother being gatekeeping and homophobic/queer phobic to her own daughter. Can't really agree to disagree when we aren't talking about the sake things.

[@BaNkR_7-TeeN]

"A tornado isn't homophobic. It's just a tornado," and, "That's his dad forever," are some amazing quotes 😂

[@TrueCr1meFanat1c]

The gay rat dress one killed me, I’m part of the LGBTQIA+ community and my sense of style is quite bold but even I know the proper times to dress more appropriately 😂

[@BeckyMesser]

I was waiting for someone to say “wear it to the wedding shower, if they’re having one, just not to the wedding” 🤣

[@ArchibaldClumpy]

The people who think that if a meme *can* be applied to a situation, it *must* be applied to the situation, are insufferable.

[@aj27turquoiseskies]

she is also 30 years old! definitely old enough to know when you shouldn't be intentionally drawing attention to yourself (i.e. at someone ELSE'S WEDDING)

[@TrueCr1meFanat1c]

Dang, that’s a lot of likes 😂

[@highdefinition450]

no you don't understand you gotta be swag everywhere every day or your gay membership is revoked

[@dippitydip4559]

Ab the asexual story: I've known I was ace since I was 13, and honestly it's almost been ten years and I still horrifically struggle with the idea of sex in a relationship because I'm so terrified of not being "normal". If you aren't actively having sex there is this fantasy you live in that "oh but the next time surely will be good because I'll be fixed by then" and it really really sticks with you. I was in love with someone for a longggg time, and they told me explicitly that the only reason they wouldn't be with me was because I was ace. That really fucks you up, and makes you constantly daydream about being able to sexually fulfil your partner and yourself because that's what we are "supposed' to do as humans. I do think OP should be honest but it isn't manipulation for any purposeful reason. He's just scared and confused and desperately trying to "fix" himself and the situation without involving his partner since it feels like such a personal problem. Btw if you are ace or ace questioning, you aren't broken bestie. It's a really hard feeling to fight, but the world of "traditional" relationships just weren't designed for us. That doesn't make you wrong, it just means you have to navigate more than others.

[@aud7593]

!!! finally a comment on the ace story. ty!! I was hoping for an ace perspective on it (aroace here hi hello). I get what the comment mean when they say he's tricking her, but also they HAVE to know it's not in the least bit malicious.

[@anonymousme3571]

13? Gosh, I barely new tf romance was at 13.

[@quarantinetherustgod]

@@anonymousme3571 you start to notice you're different when you're looking at everyone different around that age, for many aces. A lot of 13 year olds don't know what romance is, but a lot of them are hitting puberty and not knowing what to do with it, aka starting to find one another attractive. When you're ace, even if you don't have the words to know what it means, you start to notice how much you're not looking at people that way. It doesn't seem too subtle when you're on the outside of it. Coming from someone who's demi! (Demisexual - under the ace umbrella, only attracted to people you have a strong emotional connected with. Didn't find a single person sexually attractive until I was 16, and not another person since then yet.)

[@anonymousme3571]

@@quarantinetherustgod Thank you. I'm 23 now. It's incredible how nothing's changed in the last 10 years. I'm genuinely wondering if this is it for me.

[@ambergem16]

Im glad someone mentioned this bc that story did not belong on amithedevil 😭 yes the guy shouldve been more open about his asexuality but also its really tough to navigate that sort of thing and sort out your own feelings

[@Jenniferlynn6504]

I knew a couple growing up that "pretended" they were just friends, adopted a baby, and everything. I remember hearing people, including my family members talking about them behind their backs, and I remember thinking, even at 10, who cares...just let them be. They are wonderful people, nothing changes that. They never "came out" as a couple, but are still together. They raised a wonderful, successful young man, and they're super happy.

[@luxitos2867]

That is super bleak. Living in a closet for heter-os....

[@jadeykg123]

Not the exact same situation, but my mom was always just friends with my brothers' dad. They lived together and had 2 kids, but they never had any romantic feelings for one another. They were just two people that wanted a family and worked well together. Unfortunately he passed away when my brothers were pretty young, but my mom still refers to him as her best friend. Maybe the couple you know had a similar situation

[@luxitos2867]

@@jadeykg123 No, OP said they pretended. Which has happened often for gay people having to hide.

[@Desimere]

@@jadeykg123 Yup, i was thinking they might be aromantic or sth

[@AngryKittens]

Same here. I live in a university town. We had two female teachers who were living together back in the 90s. One of them was one of our high school PE teachers, while the other was a history teacher in university. They pretended they were just old maid friends but literally EVERYONE knew they were in a relationship since I think the 80s or the 70s. And no one cared. It was an open secret. They're retired now and still together, but everyone still pretends to believe they're just friends because they've never openly talked about it, so it would be awkward. 😅 They're both very well-respected, since pretty much every kid in town was a student of one or the other.

[@silvercyndaquil8472]

As a gay (non-derogatory) I appreciate this video.

[@theworldswickedestclown]

What's with a non-derogatory mention?

[@VAN-mf8kz]

​@@theworldswickedestclown it's a reference 😂

[@theworldswickedestclown]

@@VAN-mf8kz thank you sorry to leave that comment I watched the video before I commented and forgot tommy said that in the beginning

[@pearlygirl88]

Work

[@elysehuston6105]

As a fellow gay (non-derogatory) I appreciate this comment 😂

[@ThatOneRandomAlien]

26:34 My favorite fucking part is the fact the dad got the socks FROM THE SEX WORKERS 😭

[@JoaoPessoa86]

Oh shit I was so distracted by all the... everything else that I completely missed that

[@heyysimone]

I know i was like "does he just spend time outside of sex with them? Are they like a surrogate family now? What is happening?!!!"

[@TheodoreStagnum]

@@heyysimone tommy saying "his extended family" at the end got me lmao

[@cryforhelp7270]

So cute

[@cryforhelp7270]

​@@heyysimone I'm just so curious

[@joannadzenowski6214]

"HE HELD MY FUCKING HAND" absolutely killed me. So fucking cute😂

[@DanniT1995]

Bisexual here!!! omg the "you're not gay enough to be gay" is so real. I once had a gf who was like "ew, i'd never date a bi girl" so I told her i was gay.... OR, going to pride events with a bf, or thinking, how do i look more gay in a gay bar so I don't look like a straight tag along. I've even had a trans friend who i went to high school with who genuinely asked me"oh, so you're strsight again". Honestly wish there could be more gay events that aren't solely aimed at the white gay man glitter stereotype. Like, any gay bar is always Lady Gaga... Like, just sooo not my thing

[@mjrasco]

Bisexual here, too. I find it interesting that none of them pointed out the lesbian mother's obviously overlooking the probability that her daughter is bisexual. Gaytekeeping is a thing, and it is all too often aimed at us.

[@barnyardotter9301]

Yup, Bi here, and absolutely been gate kept. And told by both gals and guys that they don't want to date a bi person. And told by lesbians that bi is just people experimenting or trying to claim the LGBTQ label. And I'm careful about trying to not overclaim that label or take up too much space, because I know I'm passing, especially when I'm dating a guy

[@rachelsarmientotack]

I'm pan. And I understand from experience that it is frustrating to feel like you have to defend/prove your sexuality. But, the thing is..... you really don't have anything to prove. You are who you are, and you like who you like. Just like everyone else. The gaytekeeping is really only some understandable bitterness that we have an option of easy-mode that others don't have. The dating pool and success rates for lesbian relationships are abhorrent in comparison to hetero relationships. The domestic abuse statistics for lesbian relationships are so high that it's genuinely scary... even in comparison to how bad straight relationships can get. There's privilege in being able to feel at home within a social majority. There's privilege in options. They feel some type of way about that privilege which they will never experience. AND having to give us queer credit that they don't think we have comparatively earned. Yes, we have some shared experience with other LGBT+ people. That can and should unite us. But we can't forget that nobody is a monolith for all people with some shared experience. We're not the same. We're individuals. We're not always going to see eye to eye with everyone. And that's ok.

[@alaina4070]

Being an asexual lesbian it's this and others saying that isn't real and you haven't met the right person yet... Also, how can you be asexual and lesbian because people can't separate romance and sexuality.

[@cobaltblu4196]

@@alaina4070 Panromantic Asexual here, YUP "you haven't met the right person yet." is something I've heard from far too many people, gay or straight, and all I can think is "why do you care so fucking much about my sex life or lack there of?!"

[@jamiesmyth5965]

I am a trans Guy. If I was in the situation where my husband payed for my entire bottom surgery and I realized afterwards that I needed to restart my life, I would talk to him and find a way to pay him back over time. I could not leave him dry after he payed for the final step for my transition. I would want to compensate and give it back in some way. If I was married to a man for 16 years, I would never imagine myself practically stealing the money that he was given.

[@90sBlubber]

As a fellow trans man, I second this. I'd feel vile doing that to someone

[@nirvanaheights]

exactly, it just feels so wrong

[@station12a]

+ it wasn't just money, it was the inheritance of his mum that passed away. As someone whose mum passed away, everything that I inherited from her (even the money) is special to me and has emotional value.

[@theawesomegamebox513]

Hello, fellow trans man here. Agreed, personally I do not claim the trans man who stole money from his loving ex husband. It's just cruel. I mean I get wanting to start over but seriously? 16 years of marriage and you do that to him? The trans man is the asshole in my book.

[@mediocreskullduggery]

As another trans guy. I also do not claim this mans.

[@noelleirina5628]

I'm willing to bet that the handsy situation with the first girl is not exactly like she described. She downplayed some things to fit her narrative. And constantly doing that is annoying and disrespectful anyway. Mostly to the guy, not to her brother

[@ccannon1]

I was surprised they said not the ass hole. My siblings would never act like that

[@sammalsikuri3828]

For sure - and like they sort of mentioned in the video, even if the boyfriend doesn't mind (which I kind of doubt, it can be really difficult to say "please stop, this makes me uncomfortable" to those things especially if you didn't say no to the first few ones - you just think that oh, this will pass and then it's no longer that big of a deal, I shouldn't say anything in case that ruins something), the fact that her brother does is significant. It is his boyfriend, and if something she's doing to his partner is making him feel upset/he asks her to stop, she should. She should respect his/their boundaries - if one of them asks her to stop, she should stop. Idk if I would call her an asshole, I feel like to deserve that she should be doing it 100% on purpose and we simply can't know that, but she for sure is being an ass about the situation. I only hope she realised her mistake after the reddit post, talked with her brother, stopped doing what she was doing and apologised to both him and his boyfriend.

[@KattReen]

@@sammalsikuri3828 That's a really good point. If you go there, you should probably be hyper aware of if you're getting the yes-and or the "haha ok I guess this is happening". You want them to be in on the fun, not just putting up with your shit to keep the peace.

[@teran89331]

LOL I love the captions at 9:41 having no idea what he's saying 😭😭 Him: Okurr, gurl, purr, sis, Captions: Okay, girl, perp, cis PERP??? CIS???😭😭😭😭

[@allypower3637]

“She loved Justin Bieber and One Direction as a kid so she can’t be gay now” Someone tell this mom that the Belieber/Directioner to queer pipeline is real 😂

[@highdefinition450]

yea maybe they just liked the music and not the boys, that shit was everywhere

[@megan-wl1ym]

naw fr i wasn't into 1D or justin bieber beyond the casual level as a middle schooler but in high school i was obsessed w kpop boy groups and i feel like that's the same kind of thing ... (esp for a genderqueer person)

[@allypower3637]

@@megan-wl1ym it definitely is!! Everyone I know who had/has a kpop phase are also now hella queer 😂

[@panakinskywalker6391]

Fr i was at a louis concert the other day and the amount of pride flags there (in a kinda homophobic country i should mention) was amazing

[@Dazyet]

Literally the closet of one direction and lesbians are basically the same. And yes to the kpop comment as well, those boys are TOO PRETTY.

[@georgelloydgonzalez]

My two favourite things about this video are: 1.- Mac and Tommy's crying-laughter, and 2.- Shayne as a straight man having to come up with comeback questions for two gay people about LGBT+ stuff

[@kristoooo]

I laughed every single time Shanye defaulted to asking them "is this how you felt?" Or "was this your experience?"

[@georgelloydgonzalez]

@@kristoooo He was so diplomatic and kind, though, Shayne's a great host

[@HopeIsADrug11037]

@@georgelloydgonzalez fr, werk

[@heccmcgee4352]

The bottom surgery bit actually upset me tbh. This person not only paid but put time and effort into another person only to leave even saying it was to find themselves. That outright isn't fair. Unless it was an open relationship that person straight abandoned their partner after getting what they felt they needed from them. Absolute betrayal of love and trust that had lasted over a decade

[@user-vl6tq7sb6y]

ikr

[@c4tl4dy76]

Idk. I think Shayne's take was spot-on. I think the person needed to step away for a bit to live his new life and see if he still loved his partner, or if he was just comfortable with someone who felt safe. I'm not trans and haven't been in that specific situation, but I can see how a huge change in life can make you re-examine whether you really love the person you're with or are just staying out of comfort/security. If anything, it feels almost kinder to have it all laid out on the table instead of being strung along, hoping the relationship can weather the new chapter - which will probably not be the case. I mean, great if it does, but how much more hurtful if it didn't after a year or more of being in relationship stasis, you know?

[@DisturbedGeneration]

​@Christy Sales no. He used his partners INHERITANCE from his mother, and then dipped. 16 years down the drain like it's nothing. You don't get to use someone as a crutch like that, have them pour their heart, soul, and everything they have into making you happy, to just leave them. With the mindset of "they needed to find themselves again and live their new experience" then they shouldn't have wasted someone else's life doing so.

[@user-vl6tq7sb6y]

@@c4tl4dy76 coming from a trans person, what he did was unacceptable. Almost 20 years down the drain because of a caring husband

[@norwegianpride7523]

​@@c4tl4dy76 then at the very least he should sort out a plan to pay his now ex-husband back. If not he's just a parasite who is now finished with his host. Disclaimer: I'm a trans guy too and I would NEVER do that to anyone

[@drex8426]

The divorced dad, virgin son and the sex worker story is like something out of a skit someone would randomly make up

[@sydneycardoza7034]

Platonic relationships are a THING. I don’t necessarily want a boyfriend but a life partner? Platonic shit is lovely.

[@scarletkittyeyes]

this is all I want too 😭

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

Me and my best friend have already discussed the probability of ending up living together in 20 years and just starting a commune. 😂😂😂

[@mosswood]

YES! as much as i love these reddit readings and find myself agreeing for the most part with stuff said, THIS. i feel like every episode a story comes up where everyone forgets (or maybe just don't realise?) that friends can be life partners, romance sold separately

[@jamer2010]

Those are called friends lol

[@mauricioraigosaclavijo8833]

There's friends, and then there are partners. Not line in between because very closed friends can easily become partners even if you don't spect it to happen.

[@quain5063]

the escort story is so crazy, from 'impenetrable encryption' to 'motorboat my butt'... I just can't I died already

[@quain5063]

omg and the son saying 'mmm' with food in mouth in front of dad?? LAYERS indeed

[@heyysimone]

Honestly, his whole story was written so well though. Like, he could tour with that as a bit for a comedy show

[@stineandersen56]

I had a friend tell me I couldn't be bi because I had never kissed a girl. She told me this in our early teens. I brought it up to her a few years ago. She couldn't remember ever having said it, but instead of accusing me of making her sound homophobic, she actually apologized and said something along the lines of "Oh my god, I was such an asshole, I'm sorry!" She was also genuily upset she couldn't remember it, because she didn't feel like it was fair to me that I was the only one of us who got to remember that awful comment

[@spencerlively3049]

honestly it seems that the vast majority (like 95%) of incidences like that, the people who say things like that won't remember having said it because to them it was just an off-hand remark without much thought or intention whereas for the people they offended/hurt, it leaves much more of a memorable emotional impact. It's REALLY frustrating because if you don't have trust in that relationship it can easily feel like/or mimic actual gaslighting.

[@alexandrabuss7948]

Dude, I was told I wasn't bisexual by the girl I was making out, because I never "dated seriously" a girl, only men.

[@speshuul2]

I mean we defs all say dumb shi.t as kids but the important thing is when you grow up and mature into a better person! Then you can have adult conversations about the dumb shi.t, apologise and move on Glad you and your friend are still going strong 🖤

[@Dakarai_Knight]

@@spencerlively3049 This! My main bullies in elementary school don't even remember it. Messed my life up for a few years and it was that insignificant to them. They apologized but finding that out made it sting a bit more.

[@ZendenKing]

@@spencerlively3049 The axe forgets, the tree remembers

[@KAlexM92]

I love hearing that the "Mythical Era" made the Smosh fam feel comfortable to be more open about their sexualities ❤

[@maxieroo629]

The biggest issue for me about the story about the guy who payed for his husband's transition is the fact that it wasn't just that he took the money and left, it's that it was money FROM HIS MOTHER'S PASSING FROM CANCER PEOPLE! How awful of a person do you have to be...

[@MommaOsoIrish67]

Agreed!

[@Eliz_Creates]

The 17 year old boy expressing his excitement about the date is literally me writing in my diary about my first slow dance with a girl- it’s a bit cringe but also so understandable ❤❤

[@hotsexyangel]

Nah it’s not cringe!! It’s so cute, I love that shit

[@niamh2467]

this is so sweet :( i love queer joy

[@skabadabadooo534]

I wish i could have what ya'll got 😭😭😭

[@youshouldintrospectmore]

So sweet

[@efenedick1305]

Didn't seem cringy to me

[@feelslikegold09]

their opinions in this one have been so emotionally mature so far and I’m loving it. This episode has been a gift.

[@quain5063]

Yea compared to the last one it was a fresh breeze

[@thaynecho]

These videos always depends on the ones on the couch, Shayne is more like a sponge so while he has his own opinions he absorbs the others views and adapts. Last video had some people with some totally unreal life expectations for this day and some weird takes like for the apologetic behavior for the bad son, the leaving children alone, contradictions and focusing on some wrong things like the moving out story.

[@Chellariat]

@@thaynecho i couldn't make it more than 20 minutes into the last episode

[@quain5063]

@@thaynecho I think Shayne subtly expresses his disagreement with the last episode's two, but they're friends and all so he obviously couldn't outright bash them like the comment section did. That said I do think he's the among the most s(h)ane of the bunch.

[@cherrypienick]

​@@thaynecholiterally didnt even finish the last one

[@bitsy00005]

The flirty sister: It's OK if I flirt with your boyfriend because we all know he's not interested. That sounds non-consensual to me.

[@geneticlullaby]

Right?! And he might have told his partner it made him uncomfortable.

[@HPFireYT]

“A single rat-free dress man” sure is a statement and I’m glad it happened lol

[@13Yeared]

Trans husband definitely took advantage of the OP. You don’t go through 16 years of marriage and eight years of a changing identity without learning how to communicate. The fact he waited TWO MONTHS with no buildup or communication to divorce the OP makes me think he’s been thinking about it for a long time.

[@sendmetothevoid4751]

Exactly, you don't do something like that out of the blue, so it was pretty malicious of him. Especially because like it was said in the video, they could have just talked trough it, and opened the relationship.

[@endlesseddy7744]

^^ this! bottom surgery for trans men also typically involves 3 stages of surgery (3 separate surgeries over the course of multiple years) so this guy had a LOT of time to realise how he was feeling if he genuinely did have a change of heart for the OP. definitely needs to pay OP back, yikes.

[@kairosvt3000]

the thing about this is that it was their shared money, it's not like op was some rich tycoon; they were already living comfortably with enough money and you're assuming that right at the point he got surgery he was like "now i can finally divorce!" when he clearly would have had enough money to do it on his own. there is not enough information for people to assume that he had any malicious intent.

[@daisyallen4954]

@@kairosvt3000but also, it was OPs money from his mom so that’s where the suspicion comes from me. the husband didn’t have to come out of his own pocket/savings

[@mariacamila5307]

that's a lot of presumption

[@pantrat3153]

when i was with my ex (she was my first relationship ever and im the only out queer person in my family) my mom got a rainbow wooden spoon for the kitchen and when it came in she called me into the kitchen and said "look! its a lesbian spoon!" and was so proud of herself lmao

[@hellogoodbyeandallinbetween]

That's so cute

[@1minus2]

lmao

[@highdefinition450]

now i want a lesbian spoon. also i've never seen a painted wooden spoon they are always wood-colored lol

[@emmaveitch8440]

That was my mother after she took a month to “adjust” to my “life style” we all good now but lord have mercy no more rainbow stuff as gifts 😂😂😂

[@maryleethefox8642]

My mom proudly bought a pride cat mat to put under my cats' food dishes 😂 She saw it online and got so excited about it, it was so wholesome.

[@autumn557]

I think the trans husband is the AH BECAUSE he never once mentioned “I’m leaving you once I’m done transiting” and that’s real shitty.

[@grubbuline2165]

I love how respectful Shayne is. You can see that he is trying to word and use correct termonology so no one is offended. Shayne, ur a honorary Ally. The Alphabet Mafia loves u ❤.

[@Zanescontent]

He's just so nervous because he doesn't want to upset anyone 💚😭 love our biggest ally, Shayne Topp

[@sarahwatson3192]

ALPHABET MAFIA!!!! Such a better term!!!

[@noriii]

@@sarahwatson3192 i mean it’s what conservatives made up lol

[@kaimik137]

@@noriiiexactly, you know it's good stuff when it started with conservatives but then the gays stole it and made it funny

[@WishGender]

@@kaimik137yeah it’s only funny when queer people call it that. When straight people call us “alphabet people” or “the alphabet mafia” it feels derogatory

[@MikeMComedy]

“At least he’s got an extended family of sex workers.” Killed me 😂

[@soysauce1701]

The Flower Girl story has such a heartwarming ending. Love that it ended on a good note with sisters becoming close again. So wholesome

[@tuesdayalicezoulek6696]

I cant stop rewatching Tommy's defeated "stop" as he shifts into the astral plane of denial at the same exact moment i did

[@twylenb]

I'm trans, but that husband in the 6th story is absolutely the Ahole. Like, I get wanting to transition in other aspects socially, but don't go doing so without holding accountability for the fact that someone just paid for your life-changing surgery with the money from their dead mother. You have a whole loving husband to explore things with sexually. Cutting him off is just so irresponsible, and can easily start a pattern of cutting people off and "trying to start a new life" too often when it doesn't feel right. If this guy is uncomfortable with a healthy partnership, I don't know if he'll ever find that kind of healthy partnership again because his standards will be so warped. If you really want to understand dating, talk about an open relationship first. Going straight to the divorce is so extreme, and gives no room for OP to say anything or offer solutions.

[@sideways5153]

Okay but also OP was saying “if only I never let my husband get bottom surgery, he would never be able to leave me” I think they were both kinda icky based off the post tbh

[@hallowedfool]

​@@sideways5153 I don't think they were saying that, I think just the turnaround from getting the surgery to leaving him made it feel like his husband was just waiting for him to give him a lot of money before he left. If his husband had offered to pay him back and he still had this attitude I'd definitely agree with you but with the info we have I would interpret it more charitably

[@claudesilveira2350]

This is also why you don’t just outright pay for something that’s so huge and personal. Paying half, helping save up in a joint account, helping them get insurance, travel to appointments or apply for financial aid: that’s excellent support. And if one partner has so much money that paying is trivial, maybe that’s different. But even when on the surface it’s a very kind gesture, it can make the person recieving feel like the relationship isn’t a partnership, it’s parental and one sided. How can you ever disagree with your partner again when they’ve given you such a huge important thing? How can you be sure that the giver isn’t going to hold this over you? If somebody bought me a house, I’d be happy. But I wouldn’t want a super close relationship with them. I would worry that they’re possibly judging how I’m using that gift, or wishing that they hadn’t given it. Some people are just very afraid to be indebted like that and while it would be better for everyone to be self aware and able to discuss this beforehand, that’s not always going to happen. Loads of people only realize they have this kind of mentality once a situation arises and by then it could already be a huge problem.

[@TDhexada]

THANK YOU… i thought they were crazy for thinking it was ok for the trans husband to jus be like “ok thanks for spending 20k on what i always felt was supposed to be me now f you i don’t need you anymore cause i jus needed your sick mommy’s will money” like … they were clearly using that man for the money and no one can convince me otherwise. he specifically mentioned his mother was sick when they were together and that he was the closest relative to get the will… the trans husband knew what he was doing and purposely stayed until he could afford to help him live his best life and then drop the cis husband as soon as they weren’t needed.

[@FlyingGerbyl]

Underrated... That is all...

[@mari4nnnn]

55:32 “girlfriend, boyfriend, …themfriend.” That’s my new favorite way of describing partners of other genders.

[@SuperFlawless2010]

Cringe

[@gr1mreap3rz15]

boyfriend, girlfriend, themfriend, boygirlfriend, girlboyfriend... so many delightful options :D

[@mari4nnnn]

@Acid Bong I know, I just thought it was funny when he said it.

[@Jimins__Pookie]

"Themfriend" is so stupid. No one says "herfriend" or "himfriend".

[@mari4nnnn]

@@Jimins__Pookie The “themfriend” thing was clearly something he said on a whim because he was already saying boyfriend and girlfriend. I don’t think he meant it in a rude way.

[@JefferyPeterson]

Shayne has always been one of my favorite Smosh members, but these videos have made me love him even more, especially this one. As another cis het man, I try to be open minded an accepting as possible, and Shayne being as much of an ally as he can is an inspiring to better myself. Everything he said during the trans divorce topic felt so genuine and you can tell Shayne really care about supporting everyone.

[@kerryanne5005]

I’m just cracking up at the younger brother, I didn’t even realize there was another sibling in this story amongst the drama and then he was just like AND WHILE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS!

[@shawnab387]

When Mac just starts silently losing it at the "gay rat wedding" dress description

[@CalebR-zd5ql]

Do u think Shayne is an ally to the lgbtq community

[@bosserman444]

Honestly, the dad-sex worker story is the most wholesome ending I’ve heard in the series. The worst thing about it is that the dad commits minor crimes, misses his ex, and needs therapy. Much less sad than other stories.

[@norwegianpride7523]

minor crimes, do you mean that he's buying sex? that's not necessarily a crime at all, I don't think OP specifies where they live. In some countries brothels are legal

[@bosserman444]

@@norwegianpride7523 excellent point, I assumed US but they could live anywhere

[@MiotaLee]

I came out as asexual to my sister and her gut reaction was "No you're not, you've had sex" It's better now, but I'll never forget how that felt to hear.

[@hannahbull]

That’s such a dumb reaction as well because there are plenty of gay guys who’ve had sex with a woman or a straight woman who’s fooled around with another woman. On top of that ace virgins always get asked how they can know they’re asexual if they’ve never had sex.

[@Riveripple]

Irrelevant anyway isn't it. Asexual can still be a very low interest in sex, or you can do it anyway because of your partner etc. But yeah that's also like saying "you're not gay because you kissed the opposite sex once", like so? Honestly a lot of people just don't understand asexuality and want to judge you or make stupid comments. I've had it before with my sexuality and it pisses you off but at the end of the day they are the one being insensitive to anything different to themselves.

[@LilKitLen]

Obviously people can know without ever doing it, but I think you having had sex is definitely a great way for you to be pretty damn sure whether you're into it or not lol.

[@michaelka3071]

@@Riveripple its not about judging you or making stupid comments its about people not understand the whole thing since they dont have that information when they were born 😂😂😂 stop making yourselves the victims and understand that there are people that are just genuinely confused and want to know more about it and just came off as a dumb comment or insensitive when in reality they dont mean it that way, why do you always expect people to know what you are and expect them to understand, like what? just explain it to them properly and make them understand what asexual is about instead of going to straight to the internet and make yourself a victim about being "judged" like bro, people that are genuinely confused also exists not just as.sholes trying to demean you.

[@Shaytan.666]

@@michaelka3071congratulations Michael that's exactly what the comment said and let's be honest most people don't wanna learn and just wanna make stupid comments to feel superior or because they don't understand or try to understand. They prefer staying ignorant about topics like that and think it's a threat for them. Also it's not up to you how a victim or marginalized person feels and let their frustration out.

[@nickelbacksinger1996]

"What's worse, getting punched in the face, or an tornado." Couldn't breathe after that one, Tommy has such a way with words.

[@JrueMango]

Wow the surgery/divorce story is heartbreaking. If I was in OP's shoes I don't know if I'd ever believe the partner made their choice to leave "after" the surgery..

[@lunawolfheart336]

Same that would really fuck with my trust in people

[@IAmThatBit--]

I think they were planning this from when they were still a "her". They could have easily stayed with their husband but were clearly planning on being a 304.

[@ellielou52]

Ya, there's 2 options in my book. He had been thinking about this for a long time and still accepted the money. Or he did decide it "out of the blue" and didn't think it was worth going to therapy alone and as a couple and try to figure it out. After 16 years of marriage!!

[@RIA-wv9ni]

@@ellielou52 im thinking the same too, it seems like an impulsive decision while trying to adjust to the new change in his body. most people don't just find 16 years of love and trust to just throw it all away for a "new" life. poor ex husband will probably regret it later on :/

[@Existential_Bread7]

The "not gay enough for the gays" definetly hit home for me. I dont look like the stereotypical lesbian so I could flat out say "I'm gay" and people laugh it off.

[@jamesnelson6656]

You're are valid af💜💗🤍🧡❤ I tried to make the flag colors with the limited hearts

[@melikeskalico3812]

totally and i think they kinda dismissed it, implying that "oh the OP is just insecure"... like thats EXACTLY what she is saying. I mean im straight but ive heard about this issue a bunch of times. Its like the "not man enough to be man" myth, which coming from a very "feminine" guy, its REALLY not the case

[@_scissor.luv_]

I'm super feminine and normally have longer nails so people are just like "are you sureee"

[@20000dino]

@@_scissor.luv_ Judging by their reactions, those people are most likely extremely cishet. Hyperfemininity is VERY gay.

[@3546546547]

Well maybe if you stopped hopping down from counter-tops first, people would take it seriously. /s

[@siouxempirecoyote8174]

I’m an Ace woman and I don’t think lying to your partner is stable long term plan. There’s nothing wrong with being ace and you should not trick someone into thinking you’re just waiting for marriage. The person you’re dating needs to be on the same level as you with exact knowledge going on or your relationship is destined to fail.

[@rayraymind]

exactly, thats what gets me: the fact that he went out specifically looking for people who he could keep in the dark. as hard as the conversation can be, it is your responsibility to be truthful about your sexuality with the person you're planning on staying longterm with

[@alexis7-]

exactly. i'm an ace woman as well, 24 years old and still waiting the person who understand and respect my sexuality so i can date. there were many people out there but none of them respected it so... still waiting. i'm not sex repulsed but i'm definetly not going to be with someone who does not understand me.

[@cricketcalin]

Yeah, I'm ace and have a low libido so I'm just honest with potential partners. Like hey sex isn't a big thing and if you want it multiple times a week or day it's not gonna work out so let's just part ways now.

[@PrincessBird]

@@alexis7- Every time I tell someone i'm ace and don't like having sex they always say they can deal with it. Then months later they're yelling at me cause I don't have sex with them. Like...... Remember this conversation we had BEFORE we started dating. And they always say no. lol I don't get people.

[@alexis7-]

@@PrincessBird one of my biggest fear right there! like wasting my time with someone who won’t respect me… that is why i keep my distance

[@tamock4225]

Came to watch rhis again after the episode with Rachel and Iffy- this, THIS, is the open and good vibes we need and expect from Smosh Reddit Readings. Tommy and Mac are such a duo and Shayne being play-terrified is hilarious and a great palate cleanser. A very rewatchable episode.

[@CalebR-zd5ql]

Do you think Shayne supports the lgbtq community

[@violetskies14]

@@CalebR-zd5ql Well his wife (they use she/they pronouns) is nonbinary and has talked about how accepting and lovely he is so yes.

[@CalebR-zd5ql]

@@violetskies14 No. Shane never said he supports the lgbtq community. Many men that date queer women don’t support the lgbtq community. You’re ignorant and lying

[@skyep7012]

With the story about the sister playfully flirting w her brothers bf- also imagine if it’s swapped. It’s a brother, with a lesbian sister and HES hitting on his sisters gf all the time and says it’s just a joke. That uncomfortable. You have to think of those things in different situations.

[@criticaltipper7699]

They say this in the video homie

[@highdefinition450]

@@criticaltipper7699 but they still don't call her an asshole even tho she 100% is

[@runningerins4027]

3:51

[@eunn6949]

This was the most weird one for me is so obvious That she is being super weird

[@em01455]

Yeah as somone from a jokester (semi negative) family it’s only funny if the bf is in on it and it’s very pg. You know jokingly using weird pet names or my brother knows how to pick them. But the second she gets handsy or someone isn’t ok with it you apologize and back the fuck off. People get too comfortable manhandling relatives and their partners

[@kerkyberky6793]

Oh god that husband transitioning story is so heartbreaking. It sounds like they do love each other, but perhaps in different ways? That’s so god damn sad.

[@RocketLeagueboi]

I absolutely love how Shayne doesn’t think of them as ‘the gays’ or anything like that. He’s very supportive and doesn’t seem to be uncomfortable and he even asks them questions so he can try to have a better understanding. I truly think Shayne is one of the best allies ever

[@highdefinition450]

that's like basic decency they're his friends, i would hope he sees them as equals

[@BoogieSquared]

@@highdefinition450 Unfortunately some people don't show their queer friends that kind of decency, even while still calling them a friend.

[@lilpetz500]

Honestly, it's refreshing to see gay people brought on as just genuine friends of the host, and not "The Gays™️ we found to consult on this topic!" Like, this should be the standard, and we should expect this from others.

[@Dolphinboi]

Why are you guys so weird? Shayne isn’t one of the best allies. Has he ever donated to lgbtq charities? Does he speak out against homophobia and transphobia? Probably not

[@brayanvelez2517]

⁠@@Dolphinboilet you tell it. weird ass asking for a litmus test on Shayne’s allyship. what a chronically online take

[@BlazeNStar]

I'm so happy that we live in a place and an era where friends can come out to each other and even admit that there are reciprocity in their feeling, like it's so nice to be able to be yourself around people you enjoy spending time with in any way.

[@CyanidePusher]

1st story: the boyfriend totally left because he's uncomfortable and he wanted her brother to deal with her.

[@bbdumplin9146]

100000% . Even if the boyfriend was comfortable with it tho their sister is not and they should respect how their family feels about it regardless

[@xadielplasencia3674]

Source: I Made it up

[@AleksandarBell]

@@xadielplasencia3674 It’s their interpretation it’s not accurate account

[@Not_An_EV]

​@@bbdumplin9146 the sister was fine with what she was doing it was the brother and possibly the boyfriend who were icky about her actions.

[@mauricioraigosaclavijo8833]

@@xadielplasencia3674 who: asked

[@yasspanda2559]

That guy with the weird dad is a really good at telling stories. Has he considered writing for a career? He might get successful, I was hanging on to his every single word.

[@ironwoman3592]

I’m an ace woman and my now husband and I were raised to save ourselves for marriage. But when we were still dating, even before we were ENGAGED, I told him my orientation as soon as I was ready to fully accept it myself. It wasn’t all perfect sunshine and roses right when we got married, but we GOT married knowing full well that our situation would be different. That guy NEEDS to talk to his fiancée, and soon.

[@tortillachips3911]

👏👏👏

[@henkkahenrik4183]

1:12:13 *Gasp... unprotected handholding... how lewd. XD

[@MistySophie]

The story with the father and the sex worker is so chaoticly funny. I just imagine a group of women giving the dad rainbow socks to give to his son which they all heard about 🤣

[@acshepard6779]

I was howling when the son went "Mmmh" during brrakfast

[@nanospeed2550]

@@acshepard6779 I WAS SCREAMING!!! WHY WOULD HE DO THAT?????? FOR WHAT?????

[@CEFG100]

When the whole family is Chaotic Neutral:

[@acshepard6779]

@@nanospeed2550 well after learning that about his father, he had to break the tense atmosphere 😆

[@robsonrobson9905]

​@@acshepard6779 honestly his father had put him in such awkward position I feel like him flipping it back on his dad was a power move 😂😂😂 for SURE he's ruined his dad's favourite fetish too. I can just imagine the next time the dad has a SW over they offer to do the mouth full mhmm thing and he just has a full body cringe remembering his son doing it

[@mujwoknginoe3296]

This video is just the smosh version of; Mac & Tommy: "I'm gay and this is my best friend Valentina. She's an ally. Talk Valentina!" Shayne: "Ally!"

[@richardchen7062]

Ask her about her French vanilla fantasy

[@lilpetz500]

​@@richardchen7062 omg girl, what's your French Vanilla Fantasy??

[@haileysayshai8736]

Tommy is such a staple for Smosh; he constantly has my attention. He's so witty and downright hilarious

[@CoffeeCriminal]

one of the perks of depression-induced memory problems is that you can watch funny youtube videos you've definitely seen before for what feels like the first time.

[@steelheartii6525]

Samesies lol

[@haz2253]

as someone who is asexual, i first labeled myself as 'waiting for marriage' too, cause it was an easy way to get out of questioning. it is certainly a topic you should discuss with someone you plan on marrying.

[@esmeraytv]

The flower girl story made me cry. Everything from Op's sister realizing that some homophobia was influenced by her husband to the brother also coming out to the four of them going to pride together. I love that for them, thats my favorite story on this show so far.

[@Tsukio49]

I'm amazed how good Shane is in understanding trans person problems. I wish I knew people like that

[@savpumpkinheads]

absolutely, it was so sweet to see him genuinely think about his wording and understanding the trans man in the story

[@maddieward109]

Yea ngl sometimes I’m mad I don’t know him personally, he’s so good at empathizing with every group of people❤

[@kingsora6352]

Well hes a psych major so understanding emotions and such is kinda his deal

[@Tsukio49]

@@kingsora6352 oh wow I didn't know. But from my experience and what friend told me, who is studying psychology, there is a lot of people who are not accepting LGBT at this studies, at least in my country. I have a better experience at being accepted at my sociology studies.

[@claymatedpenguins]

the flower girl story had me literally in tears :’) it resonated with me as a new member of the community also in a position lacking that type of family support. Thank you for sharing. 🌈💕

[@Dryghtendanitsu]

Shane saying "Werk?" is in the same lane of like a parrot being taught to say a swear word XD

[@maybemay3724]

Dude I feel so bad for the dude with the trans husband. The husband literally took advantage of the dude's financial, emotional, and physical security for 18 years and then decided to peace out after he drained the OP's DEAD MOTHERS MONEY!!! Fucking insane!

[@adams509]

I honestly want a part 2 of gay rights and gay wrongs 😂 Courtney and Chanse next? 😮

[@nunatosally1]

I second Courtney and Chanse! :D

[@mrfrogkingg]

Yesssss

[@roachs4lif]

agreed

[@cheyf5296]

Would love that ❤❤❤

[@leamonty2992]

We need Heidi too!

[@grantgilbert2822]

The Sexuality Trickle Effect. LOVE IT!!! The fact OP’s sister came out, then the brother! That needed to happen, she had to get away from that guy. Happy for this family. Hope these siblings find their bliss.

[@tharzanne]

When I figured out I was demisexual I really wanted to tell someone but I wasn't ready to bring it to my family just yet. My bi friend told me about an app where you can post personal things for people to give you feedback, almost like reddit, but she had said that everyone was supportive there. So I took my revelation to that app, and the first response I got was "demisexuality isnt real" then came the "demisexuality/asexuality isn't part of the lgbtqia+". It was so discouraging for 15 y/o me to hear that after finally feeling like I found a place that I belong. So gaytekeeping is definitely real, sadly.

[@Clay-qq5vb]

What do they think the A stands for????? in lgbtqiA+

[@twink127]

​@@Clay-qq5vbit stands for Ally.

[@supergeek06]

⁠@@twink127 Nope, the A stands for the asexual spectrum.

[@twink127]

@@supergeek06 wrong. There are two "A's"

[@supergeek06]

@@twink127 Okay two things. One, if it stands for both, why the hell did you correct someone and tell them it only stands for ally? If it stands for both, then you could have ADDED it on instead of claiming that it stands for ally. And two, literally search on google, you will find a lot of different articles on what the A stands for, which is the asexual spectrum. You would also find articles on why is should NOT include allies, which i will quickly explain. Including allies in the LGBTQIA+ community shouldn’t be a thing, considering the fact that being an ally is a choice, meanwhile being gay, lesbian, bi, trans, asexual etc. is NOT a choice. Also, the meaning of an ally is literally a person who supports and speaks up for the LGBTQIA+ community, but is not a part of it. Edit: I forgot to mention that the A also stands for the aromantic spectrum and agender.

[@brytonluxton7105]

Shane is a really good presenter for these. I feel like it's slept on how good of a presenter he is, in general, but he is really able to present the stories, and really listen to what his guests have to say in a way that seems to make everyone feel comfortable, while he is still being himself. For someone who is normally so over the Topp, he is really good at being the mutual middle ground for so many viewpoints. Work.

[@kasenbrown5481]

I'm a 17 year-old gay girl and I'm actually crying about that 17 year-old boy's story omfg that's actually so sweet. I've never actually dated anyone for real and haven't had my first kiss so I live through other people's incredible stories.

[@Clay-qq5vb]

as a 17 (almost 18) year old trans gay dude, i felt this. There's hope for us yet.

[@renab.7390]

I almost cried, out of empathy and happiness for them but out of grief and envy too bc at 23 I fell for my best friend but it was one-sided (we're still friends but she has no romantic interest in me) and this story is everything I could ever wish for 😭😭😭

[@livefromisolation]

don't worry about it I'm 16 and have never had mine either but I've dated people the first one I moved away so we psychically couldn't and I've been with the person I'm with now for a few months and we still haven't granted we're both probably ace but just find a best friend who has a cute face and your set (sorry for over sharing but i wanted to)

[@SapphWolf]

Regret paying for husband's transition surgery: I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, but they walked out of that relationship the minute they were healed enough to actually walk. Even if we assume the surgery caused them to have some revelation about what they need two weeks is a REALLY fast time dump the person that just forked over thousands of dollars to support you in your journey. The guilt of that though alone would have kept me in the relationship for at LEAST 6 months more like a year just to be absolutely certain this is what I need. 2 weeks wreaks of premeditation.