Is working class culture being ERASED from the public eye? 'We've been SILENCED and quietened down!'

'Working class people are not on public platforms anymore.'
Dr. Lisa McKenzie and Andy Twelves discuss whether working class culture is being erased from the public eye.
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[@kenneththompson8933]

WORKING CLASS PEOPLE ARE THE HEART & SOUL OF THE COUNTRY.

[@johnvale3217]

God help us if they are. Where are the doctors and engineers coming from?

[@Her.Serene.Feline.Cuteness.]

Britain's relevance today internationally is through its cultural significance. That's thanks to its writers of books, films and TV (overwhelming middle class) and musicians (middle class except for Northerners).

[@Her.Serene.Feline.Cuteness.]

If Britain has any relevance internationally in 2024, it's because of its cultural contribution to the world. It's the middle class that produces the writers of novels, TV and film.

[@LifesAbe-ach]

It's the working class that gave the middle class the nation they enjoy today ... The writers and poets didn't dig a road or sewer .

[@LifesAbe-ach]

I bet them Dr's or Nurses ain't coming from some lady boy bar in Thailand....

[@alisoneidson2838]

Academics and HR departments have destroyed humor and cancelled working class expression.

[@abazely2743]

The working class spoke in 2016 and 2019 for sovreign nationhood,not globalisation.

[@sh.4409]

They was speaking in the 60's in Bradford saying no more migrants and now look at it. Old footage of the protest is on here. Even a Scot travelled down because he could see what was happening then!

[@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101]

This massive increase in numbers was all down to Johnson it was his baby it should never be forgotten ok the rest were bad but he put it on steroids

[@briancrellin2441]

Great comment.! But don't forger we are nothing but "Gammon"!

[@leesunited3327]

​@@arkroyalrifemoonbasealpha6101In my world he's already a gutless spineless puppet. His covid response continues to ruin lives, businesses and set this country back 30years. Let's not forget his parroting of the WEF build back better slogan. He only got a Brino deal from Europe. The guy is a top shelf Charlatan. He's one of that Tory cluster who would make me cancel my Reform membership should he ever be welcomed into the party.

[@peterCrane-u4b]

and weren't listened to either!!!

[@littlehumphreyton7580]

British working class culture can’t be destroyed before the next general election…. If I were a Labour back bencher, I’d already be looking for a half decent job outside politics… Because by backing Starmer’s treasonous policies so obsequiously, they have destroyed any chance they may have had of an ongoing and fruitful Westminster career, and no one in the public eye will want to be associated with them in future… Working Class Britain has a long and very detailed collective memory…

[@matthewcoombs3282]

Labour lost the 2029 election in Summer 2024. Over Winter Fuel Payments, the handling of Southport and the budget. They are like the Tories after getting in Spring 1992. We're dead in the water after the ERM fiasco and Black Wednesday.

[@paulmuaddib3470]

Thats why they hate Robinson, hes a British white working class man with "courage" he holds a mirror up to their snobbery and hypocrisy . 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@NeilMelling-pw6ts]

Who is they? Can you be brave enough to comprehend the REAL enemy whom you call THEY

[@braddo7270]

​@@NeilMelling-pw6ts pretty sure that was the point.

[@martynblackburn9632]

He's a criminal who should be behind bars.

[@JohnBuckers]

He's not British, and he supports the multicultural takeover of this land , you berk.

[@NeilMelling-pw6ts]

@@ShyTalks-d8b they have convinced you they don't exist

[@andersdottir1111]

Working class call out the 💩for what it is. The wokerati don’t want to hear it.

[@andyking6051]

The wokerati don't actually care so much what they hear , it's just that they do what they are told .

[@shylinh5939]

They don't live it, they don't see it, they live in a cushioned, protected environment. Many have been to private schools, most went on to university where, naturally, they involved in a variety of causes, the environment, race politics and more recently, the war between Hamas and Israel. They don't understand critical thinking or anything, nothing like that, but they know how to chant slogans repeatedly, they know how to participate in minor unrest, they can do self righteous anger, and in a few years time they'll be working in the highly curated media, or have some other career, making money and living out their comfortable middle class lives. No doubt they'll be happy to indulge in a bit of virtue signalling when the need arises. They add such value and enrichment to society.

[@bobhope9646]

Get khant Liebour and starmer out , RELEASE TOMMY ROBINSON POLITICAL PRISONER 😊

[@iantobanter9546]

Working class Wales run by a Baroness and Britain by a queer peer. Out of touch or what?

[@paulhank7967]

I've worked in Mansfield and Ashfield. Great respect to the great people there. I prefer the forthright speak. And the banter is character building. Strong people.

[@humble4533]

We have to be able to laugh at ourselves and other people without taking offence. Life should be fun. Those in power and the political glitterati have no sense of humour. Life can be tough but laughing at it enables people to get through it and cope

[@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361]

Newcomers have no sense of humour whatsoever ....

[@missgreeneyesx3512]

Come to London and see if our culture is present 😡 we are being erased

[@richardkent2014]

Whatever our culture minister does in the UK shouldn't always involve dealing with the past it should deal with the future and present to. Things have not been done right since ww2 and the world and Europe has changed since then.

[@chrisgibson7591]

Apart from the ones who's name shall not be mentioned

[@inconvenientfacts6452]

What I see in London is immigrants opening Cafes and corner shops at 5am. Without them there would be no barber shops, no convenience shops or even fish and chips shops. What's stopping the indigenous from opening those traditional cultural businesses?

[@sh.4409]

@@inconvenientfacts6452 They do, have you left London?

[@inconvenientfacts6452]

@@sh.4409 Where? What borough? I've lived in SE London for 50 years and been all over London. Definitely none round here, east or North London

[@LucienCanon]

Working-class culture isn't merely being marginalised, it is being replaced with it's very mirror opposites (think Narinder Kaur).

[@sh.4409]

A Gobby Indian.

[@firecelt123]

Labour hierarchy don't understand the real working class. Who are multi generational from that area, honest, dark humour, despise scroungers at the top and those from the bottom, self depricating.

[@neilnicholascampbell4307]

British Culture is being erased is more of what is happening in this country

[@Thewonderingminds]

The question is: *what is so peculiar with the British or any other self respecting culture/society that becomes target to dissolute and dissolve* ???

[@martynblackburn9632]

Fish and chips still here.

[@sh.4409]

Blame the British passport for non English, Scottish and Welsh people here.

[@alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361]

@@Thewonderingminds kalergi plan

[@andyking6051]

No its not , the working class itself is being rubbed out !

[@leechilds3725]

Without the working class, the country would be at a stand still !

[@letstalk3265]

Why do you think Aussies regard the UK as our second home when we experience the 2 year working and living rite of passage that many young Aussies do. The connection and kinship is real. Even when we're visiting it's the same. God Bless all that is British. The fighting bulldog spirit is who you are throughout history. Merry Xmas to all.

[@Annomous-58]

Merry Christmas Lee, keep up the good work, all the best for 2025. Reform UK 🇬🇧

[@Tigger-roo1234]

Says our culture is not being eroded then makes a list of working class things which have disappeared...make your mind up Lisa..🤦‍♀️ Happy Christmas to you all..

[@clivegrenville9685]

the petition call ageneral election currently has 3,005,394,signatures reshare with your e mail contacts

[@terryshannon-b6p]

The past as I lived it (70s-80s-90s)has GONE-After work wanual workers-Drivers (hgv) after work on fridays we all went to the PUB-driving through my old area of Salford-Lancashire The PUBS have GONE!-The way I live now is a shadow of how i lived=I feel sorry for my grandchildren.This UK right now is pathetic-like the MPs of ALL parties

[@sh.4409]

What was the house prices then before they imported millions!

[@jennifergiddins]

Pheminism got rid of male culture

[@deanmadnut2614]

​​@@sh.4409the bloke I used to work with bought a house in the 80s and he was a lorry driver said he was on 30k a year back then and he payed 25k for his house it needed some work but it wasnt major. His house with the land it comes with is now worth around 1 million.

[@joycawthorne8215]

HEART AND SOUL OF BRITAIN 🩵🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@SimoneWilson]

Bang on discussion. Totally resonates with me and I'm a Londoner. We seem to have lost two things, respect for each other and the ability to laugh at ourselves. GBNews is the people's channel.

[@Raven44453]

We are not coarse , we just tell it like it is . If that offends people, then that is something lacking in them, and they can stay in their own little woke world and not come here whining

[@martynblackburn9632]

Your bigotry is coming to an end.

[@angelau1194]

@@martynblackburn9632 ?

[@martynblackburn9632]

"Tell it like it is...if that offends" is a form of bigotry.

[@paulmuaddib3470]

Only fools and horses is now deemed offensive 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@neilnicholascampbell4307]

That doesnt surprise me as the BBC has become to woke

[@sheilagraham8543]

Iim an 84 year old woman brought up in Hertfordshire, primary school at St. Thomas Moore for young ladies in Berkhampstead (the school is now providing a good co-educational programme. From there I attended a private school,Upton Hall, in the Wirral so I may possibly be considered middle class by some people. However, my husband and I loved the humour expressed in “Only Fools and Horses”. I feel most of us can relate to Rodney and Dell Boy😀😀😀

[@brotherd89]

The prevailing ideology of the government views the ordinary British people as the energy, holding them in utter contempt as just bigoted racists hence punishing policies

[@vulgarresponse7080]

Perhaps 'Politicians' can build the 1.5 million homes they demand as they are so smug, they don't need us common 'construction workers!'😂😂😂

[@albert21able]

You can not have a sense of humour and free speech in a multicultural society that britain has fast become. To many people with little or nothing in common to upset.

[@ruthcookeinthetradition]

How refreshing!

[@Jonnyshoot192]

Without us Working Class, the Rich Will Become POOR. THEN WATCH THEM SCREAM.. WE WIL SURVIVE, THEY WILL NOT.

[@LeftAndProud]

U implying that the rich need the working class? It's actually the other way round. The working class have nothing else other than their labour to sell.

[@rickphillips5098]

Working class is lost because off imigrants! They get more by getung here than those born and breed here ! Kids see everything due to the Internet and here there parents thoughts and see hard work cannot buy you a house!

[@johnspark8095]

I worked in the mining industry for 14 years went to work in a factory which was mostly women, I went out for a tea break with the the girls and have never been so embarrass by the language from them in all my life.Bless them I think they taking the mick.

[@Happyharold666]

YOU ARE BEING REPLACED

[@janb4876]

I think innuendo in comedy is the funniest of any comedy and I really really miss it. We need to bring it back and anyone that doesn’t like it can should just go away.

[@mabelheinzle2275]

Sadly the upper class seem to view the working class as subhuman

[@gavinlevy1693]

The social elite don't want to offend anyone, "except" antismitism and erasing the working classes seems perfectly acceptable to them.

[@lks6248]

Not just acceptable, but necessary…….

[@H4CK61]

Soon as I see her hair I knew what she was.

[@Beansontoast-m8b]

And us Londoners ❤🇮🇪🇬🇧

[@HomeGrownVeg]

'Working class people are not on public platforms anymore.' They eat far to many sandwidges and often have breakfast and besides they keep chasing pay rises.

[@Lonerstoner512]

London leeds Birmingham🤔

[@maryminty5876]

As it was. Not Birmingham as it is now. My Brummie husband wont go near there.

[@angelau1194]

@@maryminty5876 My dad was in B'ham City Police Force about fifty odd years ago and he predicted this, he was even worried about civil war. He brought us to South Australia where for now we can still speak our minds (for how long I don't know). I'm old now but I do worry for the next generations when I'm long gone.

[@Her.Serene.Feline.Cuteness.]

What about Leeds?

[@wernerthiel8138]

Lee, I totally agree with you on all aspects, on the note of old comedy, if you don’t like it, don’t watch it that’s that simple. I am sick of this WOKE

[@vincekerrigan8300]

Added to? That's most of the problem.

[@NorthenSoul]

IS THE PRODUCER OFFENDED ?

[@truthsearcher596]

We're living in the era of the technocrats, philanthropists and global corporations. Add to that a capitalist society and the early run of enlightenment values without a doubt they'll be obstacles.

[@jack_timber]

Is an MP regarded as working class?

[@alisoneidson2838]

Working class is a culture, not an income.

[@S-North]

Depends on their background.

[@JohnBuckers]

They don't work so no.

[@lks6248]

Asking the question 30 years too late. The PC elite have made sure that there is no platform for the working class voice or working class values. It all started back in the eighties.

[@martynblackburn9632]

No platform? You lot are loud all the time always whinging and moaning on platforms like X and even on here.

[@lks6248]

@ I don’t count myself in the “you lot “ group. However, you just proved the point. There is no place in the mainstream media for the working class voice. And they should be able to moan if they want to. THEY are the ones being shafted.

[@jabhookjabcross4231]

Yes definitely and replaced by everything foreign and sectarian

[@jamesmortimer4495]

Your humour sounds very much akin to us Aussies. 🇬🇧🇦🇺

[@dedu458]

Britain made the World

[@DavesGarden1714]

@@dedu458 We certainly did,and now if you mention Great Britian you are cancelled

[@mogznwaz]

Errrr where do you think Aussies got it from???

[@michelecameron6920]

OMG! Andy and Lisa are real people!!!! They came across as really lovely people who you could spend an enjoyable evening with. Every time I have seen them as guests on a panel on GB news I have thought that they were supercilious prigs. Why does that happen?

[@grapheneos363]

'Its London, so its posh'.😂 dude doesn't know London. Welcome to Peckham

[@colinstewart1432]

Parts of London are posh. Other parts are like Beirut.

[@dancingdingo]

Whitechapel too!

[@dime124]

Being dicks to your mates in jest isnt exlcusive to northerners or the working class. Dont be ridiculous. The issue is with the far left taking offense on behalf of eveyeone else.

[@joannalawrance5138]

Gavin and Stacey was the most watched Christmas entertainment

[@ponypetedm]

Your right about the military and colour full language but even that is being suppressed, DEI has destroyed the gallows humor that military survives on. (22 year mil veteran)

[@mabelheinzle2275]

Language- often working class people don’t have the right accents or vocabulary

[@DavesFootballChannel]

no it's not being eradicated, it's just being diluted, well that's alright then!!!!!

[@simon-k7m]

Does all of Reform stand up for Thatcher ?

[@martynblackburn9632]

Thatcher destroyed British society.

[@Jonnyshoot192]

@@martynblackburn9632 Liebours WOKE out look ON ISLAM IS DESTROYING G.B

[@specialistcarmarketing]

What about drinking real beer?

[@DavidGetling]

I truly wish awful sounding accents were being erased, but if anything they seem to be given more and more prominence. When I was growing up with very rare exceptions like "Alf Garnett" one generally heard received pronunciation, which was much more pleasant to listen to.

[@anthonybartlett6924]

the victorians started this the middle class being the nations moral guardians shite

[@newsworthypublications]

Sorry, I know its Christmas, but how can Ms McKenzie be a "working class academic"? By that criteria so is Jacob Rees-Smug.

[@elaine8417]

Dr apparently

[@maryminty5876]

She has not surrendered her accent. However, she is very muddled in her logic, she is a misfit in either setting.

[@joannaennis7866]

What is wrong with a working class woman studying and using her brains to get qualifications? I say, good on her!

[@maryminty5876]

@joannaennis7866 I'm not criticising her, study is universal. It should also be lifelong, enabling maturity to clarify your logic. She remains her own woman. So do I. I took great delight I my title of The Standup historian, delivering the difficult concepts of history laced with the humour of my background. I never have lost my accent, deliberately, so that I always know my principles and logic. This lady seems not to fit either camp and seems to be bending over backwards towards her roots.

[@newsworthypublications]

@@joannaennis7866 Hey, I did not say there was anything "wrong" with the lady being an academic (I agree: good on her), but she is wrong to describe that profession as being "working class".

[@denisburgess2966]

@Beansontoast-m8b Cor blimey your right there squire.

[@big.cheese.007]

Nothing good comes out nomore. Music poo. Sitcoms poo/not even funny. Even art. 60s /90s seemed to be the pinnacle of all that

[@SusanOttewell]

I'm s veggie n I have a sense of humour lol 😆 😅 😋

[@allanyork244]

You are blaming the wrong sort of socialism as being left it is nothing of the sort. Stakeholder Capitalism aka Neo Liberal socialism for the masses at poverty level while the elite corporates own everything nothing at all left about this the biggest conn ever prepare to have your wealth redistributed while you blame a non existent left bogeyman. The old Class system no longer exists, We have the poor below 50.000 pounds the better off professional and management small business. small farms circa 100.000 pounds all set to be impoverished and taken over by the stakeholder capitalist Corporations Neo Feudalism

[@DavidMorgan-e1s]

None of these 3 have the foggiest idea about the working class

[@6326893]

Lee is working class❤

[@brianthirling9260]

Lee was a miner

[@richardmurphy4520]

" We can learn a lot from Islam." KING CHARLES

[@stanleystephenarmstrong3622]

Reform will be the best thing that can happen to this once great country of ours It will give us the working class our voices back Which we should never have lost The political elites of this country have shafted us for long enough UP THE REFORM REVOLUTION

[@martynblackburn9632]

What have you lost exactly? You cannot point it out.

[@Jonnyshoot192]

@@martynblackburn9632 SILLY BILLY, LIEBOUR ARE NOT FOR THE WORKING CLASS. FACT, THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT TURNING BRITAIN INTO A SLAVE LABOUR CAMP. WEF, AND ISLAM. VOTE REFORM AT ALL BI-ELECTIONS AND FORCE A GENERAL ELECTION.

[@ThomasGardiner-y4z]

Lisa the activist she ok on somethings then lets here self down on others depends what company shes in