What did you think of the 2024 Tour de France? Let us know 👇
@padmanabhaprasannasimha5385Ай бұрын
Historic
@colnagog6026Ай бұрын
Results felt scripted...very "feel good"...glad a Colnago was on the top step. I think Abrahamsen should have won "most aggressive/combative".
@patrickwong4824Ай бұрын
Interesting would be my one-word description.
@sparx550Ай бұрын
Brutal as usual but with the added ferocity of potentially the greatest cyclist of all time. I have never witnessed such domination in any Grand Tour. Highlight was Cav breaking the record and my favourite stage winner was Victor Campenaerts, a much deserved win for a great pro, especially his celebration.
@derickcastillo9083Ай бұрын
9.5, I am a Pog fan though! I agree with Loyd in that the Pog/Vin rivalry is the greatest that has ever been!
@jonathanfong3033Ай бұрын
I think the most beautiful stage gifting is to another teammate who has worked so hard for you during the whole race.
@oscardanson7127Ай бұрын
think that is the only time that a stage should be gifted
@erichweggelaar1320Ай бұрын
Visma can definitely learn from this comment
@indonesiaamerica7050Ай бұрын
@@oscardanson7127 It's not a gift in that case. If that's a gift then the team mater doing all of that work throughout the race is also a gift? Isn't that what quid pro quo means?
@calleumАй бұрын
@@erichweggelaar1320 didn't Jonas gift wout a stage in a previous tdf?
@atharvsingh1380Ай бұрын
@@erichweggelaar1320 huh?....they've literally been the most cohesive unit around, set a standard for teamwork and has had 3 to 4 different riders in team winning stages at tdf and other huge races despite having mega leaders. So all the years of being true to their 'samwinnen' moto is nothing coz you decide to take a sample size of 1 week at the 23' vuelta as basically the definition of their teamwork....and btw, by your own statement they did learn from that mistake on the spot since they started supporting sepp to the line and he won it anyway....although funnily enough he himself wasn't sure he wanted to win or support ving and rog regardless.
@carlfrancis8565Ай бұрын
Pagacar did the right thing by: (1) doing his job, (2) showing respect to his competition, the fans, the race, and the jersey by doing his best (3) honouring his team mates who put his success before their own (4) winning the prize money that's then shared out amongst his team mates who are not paid as well as him. (5) His victories boost team morale during the most gruelling, spectated sporting event (6) By rewarding his sponsors with the exposure that they are paying him for.
@SMathaiАй бұрын
100% all correct. True gifting is reserved only to your own teammates who are in a position to win for the team without compromising your own GC. If you "let" any of the competition win, it's only because you don't have the legs or you're doing it strategically with other wins in mind later on, so that's not gifting, that's tactics and strategy.
@bienvenidodelmundo8126Ай бұрын
Thanks for typing it for me dude.Your effort is well appreciated.❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊
@indonesiaamerica7050Ай бұрын
@@SMathai Slowing for a team mate to win is quid pro quo, not charity.
@SMathaiАй бұрын
@@indonesiaamerica7050 fair enough! Gifting is the wrong word.
@joeterzio7175Ай бұрын
(7) By taking all the precautions to make sure his massive doping went undetected.
@TheRealBroodaxАй бұрын
Thanks for the great take on Pog winning stages. Anyone that suggests any professional in any sport should do anything but their best hasn't a leg to stand on. If other people think they deserve to win, then they can prove it. If you don't want the other team to score late in a game, play better defense, if you want to win a stage, ride your bike faster.
@carlosbarrios2203Ай бұрын
Right! Every opinion I've heard about him letting others win is from "couch critics" or plain amateurs. When pros are asked if he should, they all agree if they had his legs they'd win just as much.
@cliveelliott2575Ай бұрын
Or take drugs!!!
@JillGregsonАй бұрын
9/10 for the tour. Completely agree with you re gifting - would be disrespectful of Pogi to the Tour.
@StangspringDKАй бұрын
There is nothing disrespectful in gifting a win. It should , however, NEVER be expected or requested. But refusing to take turns, after Jonas opened the gap to Remco, seemed a bit petty. If Tadej somehow thinks, that what happened at stage 9, compares to the last 4.4k of a mountain stage, he’s totally of. In general it’s frowned upon, if you sprint for the win, if you didn’t take turns in the break. “Gifting” can be disrespectful, but not to The Tour. Pantani felt he won fair and square, so when Lance claimed he had gifted the win, it was an insult.
@ShimmyD-u7gАй бұрын
8.5/10 it was a super entertaining 3 weeks of racing. Minus half a point for Roglic dropping out, I was looking forward to him fighting with Remco for the #3 spot. Minus 1 full point for Jonas not being at his absolute peak best. The only thing that would have made it a perfect 10 is if Jonas was closer to Pogi and the race came down to the final 3 days. But really, it was honestly the best TdF I have seen in the past two decades of watching. May the sharing of peanut M&M's be a featured event in every tour from now on.
@pepsino12000Ай бұрын
@@StangspringDKwhy should Pocagar help Vingegaard over Rimco? His only job was to make sure Vingegaard didnt ride away, which is exactly what he was doing.
@StangspringDKАй бұрын
@@pepsino12000It’s true, that Pogi had no incentive to aid Jonas in the situation. However, he becomes even more guilty of what Jonas was criticized for, on stage 9. Despite that the situations are TOTALLY incomparable. Taking turns would make a perfect alibi to take the win. By failing to take turns, he comes of a bit petty, IMHO. I guess, some feel a win is a win. Not one word on greed, but how you win matters (to some, appearently).
@pepsino12000Ай бұрын
@@StangspringDK i still dont understand the argument that Pogacar needs to spend extra, unnecessary energy at stage 20 after a grueling tour to help his rival so he can win the “right way”. I think he rather had a group finish at the top since the last stage was TT. But a win is a win.
@GoliPowerEICАй бұрын
The interview of Victor Campenaerts is the most heartwarming one I‘ve ever heard.
@tysonogloffАй бұрын
so good! Also - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppu3g4KHh56jfrM
@matthiaswuest7271Ай бұрын
100% agreed. Too bad they fucked up the subtitles here 😂
@kpblaskoАй бұрын
More than the famous Mohoric interview??
@RolypopolyАй бұрын
Indeed, But whoever did the subtitles should be ashamed. They didn't get half of what he said, his English seems better than theirs
@mitch_smithАй бұрын
10/10 TDF. Went in pretty neutral on Vingegaard, now I have massive respect for him. His performance was all heart. How we could have gotten to the point of a TDF winner winning "too many" stages is beyond me. Ludacris opinions. 1 bad day, or flat, or crash, and everything could have changed. Could he have let the TT go, sure, but why would he? He is paid to win. He did that. Honestly, the best part of the tour was the combatives. The grit and determination of the break aways this year was the 10/10 rating for me.
@TorstenZander-se2weАй бұрын
9/10 for the tour. One of my highlights was actually when Alex Zingle did a bunny-hop over Mads Pedersen, which in my eyes didn't get enough atttention because of the win of Marc Cavendish.
@dersteiraАй бұрын
i think its no question at all if pogi is greedy or arrogant. he does what he's employed to do at the team. he just out-performs everyone. jumbo visma from last year won all three grand tours and nobody was talking about weather if they do too much or not. that's just the game. there always has to be a winner. it would be the same if saying cav won too many stages at tdf, didnt he get enough? i think the races are highly interesting.
@ion2763Ай бұрын
Ya was a twat mid race pointing 3 finger while racing like we get it but dont gotta rub it but i think the 6 stages aint rubbing it too no one
@indonesiaamerica7050Ай бұрын
What I remember is people criticizing Cavendish on a near constant basis and only in retrospect when he was suffering with some kind of chronic ailment and unable to get a contract did people show any sympathy for him at all. And then his big comeback was "special" just as Lance's return from cancer was regarded as such. I guess people are naturally envious and prefer to watch someone suffer. Only after enough perceived suffering do they have "social permission" to take the glory.
@km09876-tАй бұрын
He had the first Giro/Tour double on the line, and with knowledge that he has blown on the last 2 tours, why wouldn't he do everything he could to ensure he completed the task?
@classactracingАй бұрын
So many great stories from this years Tour de France…. A historic Giro/Tour double, first African green jersey winner, a historic 35 wins, retirements, a comeback, first Ecuadorian jersey winner… it’s great!
@aleksanderpeca759Ай бұрын
And Carapaz Ecuador❤❤❤ from Slovenia
@IRONMAN-qf9pyАй бұрын
The team was riding almost every day, they out the effort in so they deserve to go for the win. Pogacar winning all these races us an inspiration for young riders and should be applied for giving his all
@theresarowe1656Ай бұрын
Totally agree on no gifting. Pushing the limits raises the competitiveness for all riders. Watched every minute of the race and thoroughly enjoyed. So many stories!!!!
@marktahu2932Ай бұрын
I agree with you on the 'gifting' thought and Tadej's comment that 'winning is what he's paid to do' - in fact Jonas even mentioned that he probably wouldn't 'gift' if he was in the same situation.
@bluuubberАй бұрын
Best TDF in recent times to watch - fantastic! 👍👍😊
@gcnracingАй бұрын
It certainly was amazing to watch for loads of reasons!
@tasty_fishАй бұрын
A far better Tour than I thought it would be. Great move by the organisers to throw in some big climbs early on, like the Galibier, to force the GC battle almost from the outset (like a team scoring early in a match). Lots of great stuff to keep it exciting other than the ultimately predictable GC race: first black African stage winner and Green jersey, the late battle for the mountains by Carapaz, Campanaert's emotional stage, the mad gravel stage, a mountains photo finish, stunning scenery as always, and of course, Cav's record-breaking stage win
@c.antolin891Ай бұрын
Tadej is an amazing personallity .Proud of him!
@ZozeiАй бұрын
8/10 overall... 10/10 final week thanks to Pogi and Richie🔥🔥🔥.....Whoever is hating on Pogi's dominance should stop it and start encouraging others to work on their vulnerabilities and weaknesses....Pogi worked hard to improve his third week, Visma need to change tactics and find someone who can consistently attack like Pogi or train Vini to be less defensive and reliance on teammates and more aggressive
@chrisfendt7488Ай бұрын
I never give a 10 out of 10. But I thought it was best tour I have ever seen since I started watching it in 1983. A 9 out of 10 from me.
@indonesiaamerica7050Ай бұрын
So, 10 on a scale of 10 is reserved for, what?
@lucabertokАй бұрын
after suffering two tough defeats in the last two years, this year he came back stronger than ever. this guy has great mental strength as well as his legs. he is not afraid of challenges and always puts in an uncommon determination. how can you not love him? GOOO Tadej!!! Most
@japa8111Ай бұрын
I would understand discussion about gifting a win to a teammate. Riders today have a huge responsibility toward their teammates, support staff, team directors and sponsors. Imagine how a teammate that worked whole stage or a mechanic who had to work till midnight to prepare the bikes or a team director who needs to organize everything would feel when their rider would gift a win to a rider from other team. Cycling is very much a team sport, so all riders should respect their members of the team.
@PapagayosАй бұрын
Dan does an amazing job as news reader! Congrats for the channel
@Chiller11Ай бұрын
Yes the quality of the Eurosport commentary declined after he left. I rarely watched it.
@stevemawer848Ай бұрын
@@Chiller11 Kirby really detracts from the broadcast.
@burgelsАй бұрын
IF they had gifted Cavendish his 35th, it would have meant a lot less
@scottnelson8037Ай бұрын
LOVED this year's race - love Tadej and the way he races in the same way I loved watching Lance and the way he raced, but even more, it's like getting a chance to watch Merckx, who I missed out on watching. I hope he goes on to break all the records and keeps his obvious love of the sport, and pray to the Cycling Gods that it all doesn't end up like Armstrong.
@peterturnbull9133Ай бұрын
Have really enjoyed the Tour this year and living near the Tourmalet I was lucky enough to see a stage. Pogacar was amazing this year, and all this talk of being greedy is total nonsense …he was doing his job and did it brilliantly. Jonas had an amazing tour and brought our the best in Pogacar….their duel made it exciting….Chapeau.
@MarltiodАй бұрын
Pogacar is a monster. As of now based on numbers, no one ever would have beaten this version of Pogacar.
@brianschjelde9682Ай бұрын
Agree. Armstrong, Ulrich, Riis, Pantani… no match for Pogacar. 2025 he wins all classics and grand tours - pure talent.
@joeterzio7175Ай бұрын
And those numbers don't arouse any suspicion in you whatsoever.
@MarltiodАй бұрын
@@joeterzio7175 Honestly, I dont really care. Everyone at the top in every sport is roided the the eyeballs. I would be even more suspicious of Jonas. From hospital bed to pushing his best watts ever and not cracking once.
@stevecollins1556Ай бұрын
Cheater
@martin29976Ай бұрын
I was going for Pogi or Roglic at the start. Sad to see Roglic not make it. But Jonas was amazing given the level he was at despite his crash and injuries. Remco too for similar reasons. Hope that everyone arrives 100% next year.
@robertdavenport6705Ай бұрын
Re : Pogacar. He said a few years ago- ' You can never have too much time on GC.' One crash , one ill-timed flat ,one bad day and it's all over. As for gifts , you would lose your job in any other sport. It's called ' Throwing the match.'. AS for rating the 24 Tour - 10/10 .
@Samar00171Ай бұрын
I would never call Pogacar *greedy* I think that word is suitable for those who try to win by cheating or doing morally wrong things
@ShimmyD-u7gАй бұрын
Nothing wrong at all with what Pogi did, sure it would be great to see more Victor Campenaerts type stories, but Tadej was there to do his best.
@BrianWelch-vc7xyАй бұрын
@@ShimmyD-u7g We had 10 different winners for the first 11 stages; that was pretty impressive right there. And then some well-deserved breakaway wins on 17 and 18. Viewers got a bit of everything throughout the tour.
@Samar00171Ай бұрын
The Victor Campenearts story was great because he fought for and earned that win. It would never have been great if it was handed to him by Pogi
@jeremyjs8863Ай бұрын
9/10 terrific parcours plan. Pog + other wonderful stage winnners + back stories with new gen giving us so much to look forward too. 10 with Roglic upright and without covid in peloton !
@biggertree7063Ай бұрын
My man! Victor Campenaerts!
@IanEE69Ай бұрын
The whole 'gifting' of victories reached a peak as a result of Indurain's dominance in the early 1990's . He never won a stage other than a time trial in all the Tour De France he won, and only two non-tt stages - in the TdF's he didn't. So 'gifting' stage victories to anyone - on any team - that dragged all 80kg of him up climbs was sensible. Obviously Armstrong and Contador who would have been fans were influenced, especially Armstrong who was another TT specialist that could climb. Though he got into a media storm for 'gifting' a victory to Pantani once.... However when Sky/Froome took the reins gifting was more or less consigned to history, other than to team mates or Stage vs GC deals.
@TraceyGreen-y7wАй бұрын
Been a brilliant Tour. We were fortunate to visit from Australia and the spectacle is amazing! Great summary by you Dan! No Pogi is not greedy! Sport is meaningless if gifted and who knows when he can repeat this current form! Sounds like sour grapes!
@johnlieto8906Ай бұрын
Love stats and Dan, you presented so many!! and so well!
@antoniop1968Ай бұрын
Pogi is on par to become one of the greatest cyclists of all time. Watching him dominate in the mountains, in the long flats and the time trials has this non-pro in awe. I pray he stays healthy so I can watch him climb that ladder of the greats.
@go5aliveАй бұрын
9/10 one if the most exciting tours 🎉 lots of memories with this one
@echocornetАй бұрын
Love it. The way you said “off the charts” told me all I needed to know.
@michiem9903Ай бұрын
this Ricardo Ricco kid and his principal Gianetti are brilliant. Oh wait...
@Blabla123-u4fАй бұрын
It‘s again and again shocking how gullable the typical npc Poggi fanboys are. And at the same time abolishing Armstrong, Landis, Riis, Dr Ferrari etc. Just like little kids, which don‘t want to except that Santa Clause isn‘t real aka „but there is no proof that Poggi is on the hot sauce, so until there is no positive test, he has to clean hasn‘t he mom? 🤡😂 Imo this kid and his old buddy Mauro are getting protected to make cycling mainstream. It‘s just Like those US sports where there is always this super super Star, like LeBron, Jordan etc.
@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tcАй бұрын
This was the best tour i've seen since last years tour. i give it a 10 out of 10. I do wish pogi would let breaks go or let the race come to him but on the other hand if his goal is to be the goat, which I think is possible for him to reach, then he needs to win as much as possible. People don't look back and criticize the best riders for giving away stages---they only know how many stages a rider won.
@cb6866Ай бұрын
Thanks Dan , and crew . I thought it was great , and I am looking forward to the Olympics as well !!
@allisgood.6191Ай бұрын
Pogi is the most doped rider ever of all time
@Blabla123-u4fАй бұрын
Giannetti and his mini me aka Ricardo Rico 2.0 😂
@stevemawer848Ай бұрын
Got your evidence, or are you just comitting libel?
@Blabla123-u4f17 күн бұрын
@@stevemawer848 this not a court hearing, you don‘t have to act as if an suspect is inocent until proven otherwise. The Pogi-Show all year around is a complete shit show. How naive has one to be, to only think about that Pogi could be natural. Come on, wake up 🤡🙈😂😂😂😂
@kestralrider313Ай бұрын
Dan, thank you for mentioning Lorena Wiebes wins, I have noted her amazing win rate, something even Cavendish would call a best year. Her sprints are brutal and dominating when she hits the line with room and energy to spare; her fitness this year seems to be at a career best. Can't wait to see what she does in future years.
@rubenmartinez4555Ай бұрын
Victor deserved accurate subtitles. "Highly pregnant" is not "Helping me", for instance 😅
@gmccmemberkАй бұрын
Yeah, they really weren’t great.
@TibovlАй бұрын
@gmccmemberk summum became some. 'With a' became 'we're the'. Some of the subtitles make a perfectly grammatically correct sentence incorrect. I don't know how someone can be a native speaker yet understand less English than me.
@prestachuck2867Ай бұрын
What happens when you fire the subtitle typist and replace them with A.I.
@cosmicpumaАй бұрын
He's there to win... so that's what he's doing. Personally, one of the best tours I've watched since Lemond, Fignon (Rest his Soul) .. watched every stage bar one... all the talk about doping, gifting, motor doping etc... is what it is, I have only one thing to say, that was an amazing Tour. 👌 Winners Win and Hard Work Pays 🏆 Bini Girmay was my highlight.
@aldosantillana281Ай бұрын
I don't believe any other did this analysis. Great video.
@cwynne9211Ай бұрын
Agree. It would have been a disservice to the team as well as the tour, had Pogacar not give it his best. Enjoyed the race.
@philipcarson8438Ай бұрын
Plus, every win means more prize money to share with the support staff
@denisesayer9225Ай бұрын
Pogi is doing his job with style and panache!
@ion2763Ай бұрын
And dope dont forget that
@issahgyandi3365Ай бұрын
@@ion2763 He's shattering the records of well-known dopers which makes it even more baffling - if you're naive enough. I enjoy his style and talent as much as the next guy, but I take it for what it is.
@ralphpinelАй бұрын
Gifting stages undermines the value of winning one. This makes me think that some riders that have won in the past weren't really worth of the accolade.
@martonferenciАй бұрын
9/10 - one or two stages for the classics riders would've been great. as for Pogi winning, the last 5 years have proven that you need to take every chance you got because there are no guarantees for next year.
@derickcastillo9083Ай бұрын
Pogi isn't just racing the cyclists in the race, he is racing Merckx, Anquetil, Hinualt, and Coppi!
@apalmgren189Ай бұрын
Armstrong, Pantani, Landis, Menchov, Vino, Riis, Ricco and so many other greats…
@robbchastain3036Ай бұрын
I did think Tadej was a messy rider at the start of the Giro, particularly when in Pink he led the peloton in a last-moment catch of a rider near the finish. But in later stages of the Giro and throughout the Tour, he and his team played it mean and clean and what's a winner to do but win when you see a chance and take it. And Jonas was brave just to be there, let alone compete at the highest level, and same goes for other recently injured riders, not easy to get up off the mat and the hospital bed and get back to racing against all the other chaps with a serious need for speed. 😀
@chanhmr1554Ай бұрын
Cám ơn chương trình tóm tắt những hình ảnh đẹp nhất cuộc đua xe TĐF 2024.xin chúc mừng Tadej Pogacar tay đua xe đạp kinh điển đẳng cấp thế giới 👍❤❤❤
@AlanJeffreyMcClainJrАй бұрын
Best Tour I’ve seen in years!
@DennisNowlandАй бұрын
Pogajar on gear. Look at the times. Bit like saying Arnold Schwarzenegger was a natural if you know what that means. Having.said that it's wonderful to watch.
@jeffhoward4842Ай бұрын
Pogi should win every stage he can and making a deal in exchange for a stage is a tactical decision and totally within his rights as a competitor. The whiners, TJ in particular, are ignoring the fact that Pogi was only three minutes a change ahead on stage 19. Not enough to be comfortable and on stage 20 he just followed wheels.
@William24009Ай бұрын
Dan, in my opinion, you have a great voice for commentating, I think you should take Phil Liggett’s place to announce the TDF!! Thanks for all your efforts in sharing biking news.
@amandanorth6526Ай бұрын
This is the first tour I have really immersed myself in and I absolutely loved it. I don't think I'll ever forget UAE's team performance in the Pyrenees - exhilarating to watch. Carapaz was wonderful, Jorgensen was great, Victor Campanaerts was a joy, Mark Cavendish a hero, Girmay a revelation and Remco is threatening. Pogacar was stunning: a pure racer. Vingegaard was all heart. The last few stages battling for second place, and watching Visma Leasabike try everything to break Pogacar and to see him use it all to his advantage - wow. This is truly what sport is all about.
@johncherrington6080Ай бұрын
No question that Pogacar is an exceptional athlete but lets get a bit of realism into the situation. It's not clear to me how it is possible to produce a prodigious physical performance one day and then totally recover overnight to the extent to which that feat can be repeated the very next day and then again the day after that. The fact that this occurred at the very end of an allegedly gruelling 3 week tour makes it all the more hard to credit. I don't think that there is anything illegal going on but to believe that his virtually superhuman powers of recovery are all down to his innate ability rather than the result of some kind of medical intervention is absurd. To repeat I don't think anything illegal is going on but neither do I believe that this situation is as straightforward as many people want to believe and perhaps we need to redefine what we mean by doping. In my opinion what we are seeing is the result of the ever more sophisticated application of sport science methods to counter the damaging effects of hard physical exertion and whilst producing exciting racing it is turning riders into little more than lab rats.
@ion2763Ай бұрын
He like the dude from rocky 3 the russian guys yeah he got talent and charisma which is why the aso uci all these cycling body behind him but we all know the uae staff memeber are all guys from the past era doping era you dont thjnk with new technolgy the process would re happen or rehash it happening
@ljslo....Ай бұрын
Pogačar 👑✌️🇸🇮
@HeidiLandRoverАй бұрын
That photo of Blaireau is awesome!
@prestachuck2867Ай бұрын
That shot perfectly captured Hinault at his best, didn’t it?
@olympSLАй бұрын
It's great time for cycling in my opinion. Really enjoying and like all cyclists and their different characters in same peloton. Tadej, Wout, Jonas, Jasper, Primoz, Bini, Remco and much more. Nobody is same or copy of any other.
@dr.stevenlysne8098Ай бұрын
Great Le Tour, loved it! Naive to think anyone should/would gift a stage, particularly to a rider from another team.
@DeborahH78Deborahh78Ай бұрын
There is no such thing as greed when people are relying on you. When you’re the best, you’re the best. Do people want him to get a participation award😂😂😂😂. Agree with everything you said, very interesting. 🎉❤
@artisthespoonmanАй бұрын
Wins three stages with heavy climbs back to back. One where he beats a 20 year old climbing record by a former doper by 4 minutes. Maybe stop being naive? His team manager Gianetti has a history od using band substances and working with doped cyclist up until 2011. It's armstrong syndrome all again.
@stevemawer848Ай бұрын
"using band substances"? Did he trumpet up the climbs?
@Se0ulMan63Ай бұрын
I love Pogi attacking and not gifting. It’s a race afterall.
@billyblanco8106Ай бұрын
Simply FAB ! And same for GCN weekly recaps during leTour...we now know that there will be no more consideration given by riders, as JV did for TP in stage 18 of 2022 TdF...LOL...
@IanEE69Ай бұрын
Cav's doing at least one TdF ASO city centre crit in Japan in November - He's in the Legends team with Froome and Sagan. He'll probably do others. Club events and so on. I doubt he'll compete in any more stage races for Astana though.
@prestachuck2867Ай бұрын
Those post-TDF crits are scripted and fully prearranged. The winners are chosen before the start and others are instructed to “make it look good”.
@oldtwinsna8347Ай бұрын
Astana's done, they will get relegated for lack of UCI points to remain at world tour level. However, Vino doesn't care, as he was vindicated by winning the huge gamble that Cav could make history.
@IanEE69Ай бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 I wouldn't write Vino off. They have a year before relegation at the end of 2025 + have done a deal with XDS Carbon tech for a 2025 season reboot and massive budget increase, in line with Jumbo and Lampre's - also If history is any judge Israel and Alpecin both thrived not having to go to ALL the world tour races and being selective. Seriously if Vino was Russian I wouldn't bet against him replacing Putin. He just won the Ironman world champs in 50-54 age range ...... Cav on the other hand is finished with them. So expect a whole load of new signings for 2025.
@danielhall1473Ай бұрын
Glad to not see the comments filled with people saying "Vingegaard would have dominated Pogi if he hadn't crashed," which I've seen a lot on social media. Would it have been closer? Yes. Would Vingegaard have won? Maybe, but probably not. The Pogacar of this year is at a level we've never seen before.
@wsbygtАй бұрын
Totally agree with everything Lloyd said, specially regarding Pogi and Pidcock.
@HegelsBikeMechanicАй бұрын
Spot on with the gifting arguement. Unless an alliance is formed, I wouldn't want a win gifted because it would feel empty.
@mommamooneyАй бұрын
I think you’re right about neither Tadej nor Jonas would be as good as they are without each other. Competing against those better than you makes you better
@johnpaton8047Ай бұрын
This year's Tour is one of the best. Next Year's could possibly even better.
@bivaniАй бұрын
Dan, your critics of Inios team is well said. Couldn't agree more. I was expecting more from the them as they were my favorite team. I also have a lot of respect for JV team (now JLAB!). I think they need WVA back in shape before they could be considered a treat to UAE anymore.
@XR4turboАй бұрын
Matteo seems like he could be a strong GC leader on another team. Fully agree on gifting - I would hate to win a gifted stage, knowing it wasn't earned even if losing was a disappointment.
@rogermcgroty9444Ай бұрын
Always fantastic commentary
@ronaldwilliams6923Ай бұрын
Great tour. Most interesting podium ever with the four jerseys. Though not a Cav fan, big resoect. Pogacar should win whenever he has the opportunity. That's what athletes do. A gift to a teammate or in the circumstance you described is acceptable, but otherwise, it makes no sense. Although it's is perfectly acceptable for a viewer to feel badly that some young rider has a stage taken by an established GC guy, it is not fair to call such a will to win greedy. 9 out of 10
@bienvenidodelmundo8126Ай бұрын
The 1989 Tour will always be the platinum standard for all the rest of the tours to be compared with. Thank you very much Greg, Laurent and Pedro for giving us cycling fans a Tour to remember.🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤😊😊😊
@erichweggelaar1320Ай бұрын
No longer
@badbitecrewАй бұрын
The tour was exhausting just watching. Kudos to the riders. No one wants to win a thrown race-it’s hollow.
@ro55doАй бұрын
It took Armstrong years to admit he used doping. So, Pogacar, we will wait…..!
@robertobetta9602Ай бұрын
Oprah will burst everyone’s bubble.
@santiagobenitesАй бұрын
Don't hold your breath. Look how long it took to learn the truth about Lance.
@rachaelmurray8051Ай бұрын
Let Tadej win
@kaltonianАй бұрын
totally agree regarding vingegaard, i am surprised that he was able to heal completely let alone getting a podium finish at the tdf, this tells me that vinni might well have won it again, so if everything goes to plan next year then we are in for one hell of race at next year's tour de france, I don't mean to take away anything from carapaz but i don't think i would of named him as most aggressive rider
@rof8200Ай бұрын
Paid to win. Doing his job. Well done to Tadej 👏
@rbonn3880Ай бұрын
Best moment: Tadej tearing down the mountain into Nice at breakneck speed. A thing of beauty. And never any need to apologize for being the best. Would Ali? Or Messi? Or Lebron James? No.
@paulwoodward8265Ай бұрын
After so many decades of GC riders taking no risks, marking their rivals and only attacking in the last 400m, Pog is fantastic! The fact that he risks blowing the doors off to take time OR stages is fantastic entertainment. Despite his massive lead this tour, there was always that chance that he’d push too hard, crack, and lose 5 minutes. Just like he has in the past. I can’t praise him enough for taking these risks. I’m sure his team would prefer an old school Team Sky approach, he just wants to race. People moan about it being boring? They are just wrong. Would any other rider/team take risks on the final time trial descent when the yellow jersey was theirs to lose? That was fantastic entertainment.
@mondeiturАй бұрын
Loved the race this year
@KatcycleАй бұрын
I agree with you Dan, of course Pogačar shouldn't gift wins to riders from other teams, otherwise it wouldn't be a race and they might as not bother racing it. And as you say, he's paid a lot of money to win races - that's his job!
@badsamaritansofficial6704Ай бұрын
Best TDF in recent years! Last year and year before where snoozefest.
@stefanocavallin6221Ай бұрын
Probably you fall asleep during giro 2023 and miss the tour because even as a tadej fan last year was superior by far. Stage 1-2-5-6-9 of the First week where pogi and Jonas Attack 5 times in First week then 2 week other 3 stages. Only "problem" was the lack of thrill for last week but still beautiful stages and the same for this year in the 3 week we already know Who was gonna win
@UnpreeeedictableАй бұрын
Great wrap up of the TDF. I can’t help but think Pog let Jonas pip him at the line on Stage 11 but who knows.
@bulbangsАй бұрын
9 out of 10 for this tour 🔥🔥🔥
@iansingletonАй бұрын
TdF 2024 was fantastic! Those guys pushed themselves so hard every day. Hardcore racing. OK there was the odd long sprint stage that wasn't great TV but 95% of the race was full on. As for Pogi being greedy! Sorry what? I've never heard so much BS. This is pro sport. There's no give aways. It wouldn't happen in any other sport, it wouldn't even be discussed in any other sport. You fight to win. End of discussion!
@claire2088Ай бұрын
the idea of pogi trying to win too much blows my mind- like this is professional sport! him, the team, their friends and family work all year, miss seeing each other, spend weeks at altitude camps and recon etc etc, I think it would be a kick in the teeth to everyone if he was like 'nah, I'm good, I know I made you recon that TT route until you despise it Urska but I don't think I should try and win today so turns out we wasted all those hours' we might not see the behind the scenes, but at each stage someone will have worked so hard ahead of the race to give him the best chance
@ion2763Ай бұрын
Ya that what it take to be professional athlete the sacifice but you wouldnt think him doing what it take to best by doping wouldnt be something he does as well just think about it not here to argue
@prestachuck2867Ай бұрын
@@ion2763You are here to argue with that poster above, otherwise you would not have brought up “doping”. The poster you replied to said NOTHING of doping. You pulled that b.s. out of your own tinfoil hat.
@niceguy1774Ай бұрын
TDF 2024: I love Jasper and Pogi even more now. I hope they dominate for the next 2 years. Lidl Trek underachieves, but not as disappointing as Ineos.
@beerbezarba3055Ай бұрын
Pogi is only doing his job and doing it very well !
@ashleyfrancis2903Ай бұрын
God I love Victor and his thick Belgian accent ❤
@AllonmorАй бұрын
Have to say Dan you were missed from the live shows.. Larry was excellent tho hope to see more of him.
@KenSmith-bv4siАй бұрын
I favorite part of this years Tour is getting to watch the replays of Cavendish winning stage5, seriously there was no stopping him, awesome.
@Macca8884.5Ай бұрын
Go for the 3 peaks🎉🎉
@abelrivera1198Ай бұрын
Come on Tadej, go for the triple, Giro/Tour/Vuelta.
@kimmirossi46Ай бұрын
Tadej Pogačar is Slovenian PRODIGY!
@issahgyandi3365Ай бұрын
pogi keeps on shattering the records of riders we know were doped
@jonskislo1Ай бұрын
so do others \shrugs.
@robertobetta9602Ай бұрын
@jonskislo1 He is not denying that.
@masterlinkthegreatАй бұрын
I think pogacar just wants to have fun and to win as much as he can. And to also think both about legacy and physiological battles with Jonas. He wants to be the best rider so if he feels good and wants to win stages, let him do so. Also not to mention how Jumbo Visma(now visma LAB) “bullied him” in 2022 with roglic and in 2023 with all the team tactics. He just wants to get back at Jonas for what they did to him last few years.