Pro Cycling Crashes: Is Tech To Blame?! | GCN Tech Show Ep. 368

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Күн бұрын

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@gcntech
@gcntech Күн бұрын
What do you think about the correlation between tech and danger in cycling?
@timballenger1416
@timballenger1416 Күн бұрын
You must examine the causation of every accident before you decide speed is the culprit. Bad decisions on the part of someone is most likely is the direct cause of most accidents. Bad decisions come from the participants all the way up to the organization that planned the route.
@fredrickawinyo
@fredrickawinyo 23 сағат бұрын
Tech has made riding safer improving the confidence on the bike and as a result comfort at higher speeds. In races, slowing down is not the goal so even with limited gearing, they will be pushed to the limits, and the riders will push themselves harder to overcome the limitations risking even more
@cruachan1191
@cruachan1191 23 сағат бұрын
There's definitely a case IMO for limiting aero tech/clothing to the time trials only for stage races, as the riders are rarely in contact and never for long. This also has the MTB style aspect of preserving aesthetics for the peloton by limiting the more extreme looks to the TTs. Organisers have to take responsibility as well though, this years tour with the gravel sections was a prime example. Bringing the whole peloton to a virtual standstill as they hit uphill gravel and some even had to get off and push to get up it.
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 22 сағат бұрын
With the rise of Zwift and other indoor training apps, are young riders getting stronger yet less skilled? Perhaps coaches aren't adjusting their skill development for the faster, stronger riders who have a bigger portion of their training on indoor apps?
@questgivercyradis8462
@questgivercyradis8462 22 сағат бұрын
Where do crashes occur the most? If it is due to multiple riders in a descent, then rules could be in place to force less riders next to each other going fast. Ex: can pass one person, but no dense pelotons - that's similar to triathlons, right? No drafting rules? Pelotons are great but perhaps limit them in dangerous areas. If it is single riders in a descent, then that seems likely due to the rider themselves. If it is in narrowing-points, then the routes need to be designed wider. If it is in the sprint finishes with riders elbowing each other, put in harsh penalties for aggressive riding. A race is... a race. Can put in incentives/penalties in rules, and do better route design, before limiting gear, it seems. But more research would be welcome!
@larrylem3582
@larrylem3582 21 сағат бұрын
During the bike vault, you never need to switch back to Ollie and Alex. Just show the bikes the entire time so we can look at the bits when they mention them.
@ThomasNing
@ThomasNing 15 сағат бұрын
I've been thinking this for years. Or at least, don't make their faces 80% of the screen time. I always need to go back and pause.
@maras3045
@maras3045 21 сағат бұрын
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary that's what gets you." - a wise man once said.
@jonasvieth
@jonasvieth 20 сағат бұрын
Came for that quote to the comments. Absolute legend 😁
@aauden
@aauden 22 сағат бұрын
Couple of thoughts on the safety debate... 1. More racing from the gun...means more risks taken in more of the race. 2. Less skilled bike handling? Lots of riders being picked up based on power numbers (or Zwift performance!) and into WT teams without a good grounding in lower level racing.
@PixelVibe42
@PixelVibe42 23 сағат бұрын
Don't believe tech is making racing unsafe. It's riders. Errors, over-confidence, stupidity, red-mist, fatigue, positioning. I've been wiped out in many sprint finishes (on track) and there's no tech involved. Happy healing everyone!
@larrylem3582
@larrylem3582 21 сағат бұрын
I'd say that every time there's a crash, the cause of the crash should be documented. Was it in the middle of the pack and someone touched another's wheels? Was it a contraction in the roadway? Were rider's moving over to pick up feed bags? Was it a blind corner? Was it gravel in the road? Was it a wet road?
@The3mphasis
@The3mphasis 6 сағат бұрын
Far too sensible and onerous for the UCI to consider 🙃
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 4 сағат бұрын
Like riders looking back when they are coming off the front at high speed in the peleton. Every time I see that happen I cringe. That's recipe for taking someone out.
@colindthomas
@colindthomas 22 сағат бұрын
Seems like a lot of the crashes are from tactical decisions by teams. Enter this hill first, get to the front for this corner, start the downhill in first position, etc.
@lwittrock1
@lwittrock1 19 сағат бұрын
You also need to consider how quickly people are rising up to the levels a pro racing. Is there a connection with skill and number accidents?
@michaelfleming4015
@michaelfleming4015 Күн бұрын
The biggest problem is the tradition of stages finishing in the center of medieval towns that have added road furniture for car safety, but the bicycles are racing at much higher speeds. The finishes need to be just outside the tight traffic slowing center. Also, Ollie, that’s what scuba tanks with regulators are for.
@gcntech
@gcntech Күн бұрын
there are some rules and regulations around sprint finishes, but they likely need revisiting with the increase in speed we are seeing
@EduardoSalas
@EduardoSalas 22 сағат бұрын
When Ollie said “Friend of the Channel…” at 29:09, I was just waiting to see an image of Bjarne Riis.
@SteakandChains
@SteakandChains 23 сағат бұрын
14:05 is it possible that the injury trend is because the peloton is getting younger with less experience more than speeds?
@edwardsjohnpaul
@edwardsjohnpaul 22 сағат бұрын
Looking at the idiot decisions made by riders, the responsibility of "reducing crashes" falls 100% on the shoulders of the racers. If they're gonna act like jerks, they're gonna crash. The best thing to do would be introduce a penalty points system and punish dumb tactics and behaviors. "Speed Kills" is a cute soundbite, but "bad decisions" is the root cause.
@afuel4sport
@afuel4sport 19 сағат бұрын
"Speed doesn't kill" a direct quote from a speed awareness officer, "Lack of concentration is the killer". F1 Drivers don't die doing 200mph its only when they run out concentration or talent. There will always be crashes, however some race directors do push the HS or lack of it to make races exciting. When a race is announced a team of trained HS should recce the whole course and make stipulations for rider safety, possible liaise with a riders union maybe. Great show from Olli and Jimbob please keep it up as these questions come up during club rides.
@lifewithbrianr
@lifewithbrianr 18 сағат бұрын
Unpopular Outlook : Tech could be to blame but taking a step back would slow the progression of the sport. Don't take it away but put a limit on how many bikes per pro are available each season, this would make pros more cautious on when and which risk they take. because once the bikes are gone your season is over. In turn this could help reduce crashes.
@prestachuck2867
@prestachuck2867 13 сағат бұрын
MotoGP rule!
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB 3 сағат бұрын
Yeah, the Motorsport example is the way to go; you can't swap if there's a problem - tough, race over. XCO MTB has this. Make the bikes/ equipment more reliable.
@quilsim
@quilsim 5 сағат бұрын
baggy shorts with built-in knee pads and side padding: 1. slows down descents, 2. padding against crashes, 3. protection against road rash, 4. broader public appeal for the anti-lycra crowd
@Shomi_brat
@Shomi_brat 23 сағат бұрын
"Absolute safety is non existence " -Jorge Sprave,the slingshot guy.
@DG-tf9rp
@DG-tf9rp 20 сағат бұрын
The cause of the crashes needs to be tracked. In a peloton, over lap wheels caused the crash, not speed. Rider inattention caused the crash, not speed. Spectator caused the crash, not speed. And crashes happen for stupid reasons, not speed. Cycling can be unsafe, that's why I do it.
@edromero7985
@edromero7985 23 сағат бұрын
....the pro riders should take a lesson from Formula 1 in the 60s. (under Niki Lauda) The drivers realized they were the attraction and took the power of race decisions away from race organizers, and also got paid more for safer tech, courses, and routes
@ryanfitz8108
@ryanfitz8108 12 сағат бұрын
They have been attempting to do this for decades... unsuccessfully. UCI, ASO, RCS, etc hold to much power and refuse to relinquish it.
@edromero7985
@edromero7985 12 сағат бұрын
@ryanfitz8108 .....then, as the Formula 1 drivers did, unite, and refuse to ride ie strike ..... they ARE the attraction and THE ONLY reason we fans watch THEIR amazing talent and hard work
@rayF4rio
@rayF4rio 4 сағат бұрын
F1 used to race on roads - Spa. And a few others in the very beginning. Now only on well designed circuits. But I don't think bike racing would survive as a spectator sport on closed circuits. It would get really boring, really quickly. How many laps to get 200km? So I'm not sure any comparison to F1 holds any answers. And F1 gets pretty boring unless....weather/rain.....which results in..... Crashes.
@edromero7985
@edromero7985 4 сағат бұрын
.....not saying bike racing should be on closed circuits.......instead racers have say when (weather), where (barriers, bales, road furniture....) and how (any slow downs, waiting for yellow jers) will be decided only by racers
@payneridesbikes
@payneridesbikes 20 сағат бұрын
Challenge for the double disc.... go out on a windy day and see who can hold it in the aero extentions the longest
@afuel4sport
@afuel4sport 19 сағат бұрын
See.... this is why fans watch races, for the crashes 😊
@AMLay1234
@AMLay1234 Күн бұрын
Love it when Ollie 'periodically' references chem.
@JonCannings
@JonCannings 23 сағат бұрын
He just can't help himself
@AMLay1234
@AMLay1234 15 сағат бұрын
@@JonCannings an organic reaction . . .
@mommamooney
@mommamooney 12 сағат бұрын
Chemistry is the best science
@loriscott3290
@loriscott3290 13 сағат бұрын
Whoever submitted the scarab bike needs to redo the pic. That bike was gorgeous and it deserves the cowbell!!!
@Kokomadida
@Kokomadida 15 сағат бұрын
Whoop whoop! My bike made the vault! 32:25 - very much a celebration of winter. :)
@Kim_Miller
@Kim_Miller 6 сағат бұрын
A tip for seating a tubeless tire. Get a light tie-down strap and wrap it tight around the circumference of the tire. This will hold the bead into the deeper part of the rim and give a bit of a seal. When you pump it up it can keep air better until the bead of the tire moves out onto the seating surface.
@sethgriffiths6539
@sethgriffiths6539 18 сағат бұрын
Adding bulkier clothes to riders to reduce the top speed of a sprint would also run the risk of reducing breakaways. Sure, the bunch is going slower, but the rider(s) that choose to make a break are going to think twice if its windy, or a long stage, or any scenario where the peloton stands a higher chance of catching them back by sheer weight of numbers as soon as they choose.
@carlyuen4360
@carlyuen4360 20 сағат бұрын
Alex COMPLETELY NAILED IT at 4'44"- Risk vs Reward - no matter how much you limit the gears, weight, tyres, brakes, even drugs, racing cyclists will still exceed all limits for the glory, trophies, cash prizes, etc. One way to curb this reckless desire to win, is to reduce the reward. If the winner of each TdF stage only got a free pedicure, and the overall winner got the nailclipper in the end, you'd see a lot fewer accidents in the Tour.
@Kim_Miller
@Kim_Miller 7 сағат бұрын
One question that you didn't ask in the safetly discussion was "When/where are the accidents happening?" Are people coming off in the rain, going down steep hills, slipping on cobbles in old villages, bunching to tight and getting in each other's way, crashing when spectators do something stupid running alongside? All sorts of questions that need a bit of research.
@andrewmcalister3462
@andrewmcalister3462 5 сағат бұрын
28:47 That bar tape is horrific. GCN Tech should do a regular PSA reminder at the start and end of the indoor training season (with that photo) for people to check their bar tape on their indoor setup.
@333wheeler
@333wheeler 23 сағат бұрын
Junior racing using the 86 inch gear were sketchy as the 3rd cats were included mostly 50 -50 in the bunch. The juniors tended to spin that more easily . Big differences in ability and risk aversion .:)
@afuel4sport
@afuel4sport 19 сағат бұрын
When I was junior I used sit behind (draft) the 3rd cats, much quicker, restricted gear made no difference.
@333wheeler
@333wheeler 6 сағат бұрын
@@afuel4sport in the 70s the 3rds had to ride the restricted gear in the race. Most were not as good at it as the Juniors .
@prestachuck2867
@prestachuck2867 13 сағат бұрын
I remember hearing some of the recently retired pros stating that the younger generation of riders often race with no respect for others in the peloton. Sometimes referring to a lack common decency (urinating or spitting mid pack), but also often referring to unsafe riding such as deliberately chopping wheels at course choke points and feed zones, running others off the edge of the road in order to keep them from moving up in the field or attempting to bridge to a breakaway group, or generally riding carelessly in the pack. We see fine examples of good behavior from the very top riders Vingo, Pog, and MVDP, but a lot of the other young pros just ride like complete knuckleheads. It is as if they either have very little experience riding in a tight pack, or they are just entitled self-righteous jerks.
@CoolGrey7Man
@CoolGrey7Man 18 сағат бұрын
I agree with Alex, reducing gears/speed is not the answer. I feel that it is human aggression more so, which happens in many sports. "I can beat you, no I can beat you, no no I can beat you". This causes riders to get close to each other and even touching and down they go. But some times speed is a problem when riders mis-judge a corner etc. Modern tech is not to blame, it's human error. Why can't organisers put foam barricades on the road sides all along the hundreds of kms of each race.
@gtn
@gtn Күн бұрын
Marek's got used to Kona temperatures now 🔥
@gcntech
@gcntech 23 сағат бұрын
cheeky little so and so!
@andrewmcalister3462
@andrewmcalister3462 5 сағат бұрын
Hopefully Alex and Ollie pick a windy day for their double disc testing. They could call the video “GCN’s NEW Last Man Standing Challenge”. 😈
@gcntech
@gcntech 2 сағат бұрын
or maybe it will turn into pedal powered aircraft?!
@busterbrown2905
@busterbrown2905 23 сағат бұрын
Making racing safer is more with regards to course design rather than equipment. Racers will always take risks. But organizers could contemplate to: Reduce the Peloton size, increase distance between fans and the race course, highlight road furniture better, and make sprint finish area wider. I disagree making clothing more baggy, it could cause the racer to become unstable on downhills because the baggy clothing could grab more wind on one side than the other knocking the racer off balance or make the racer wobble.
@nerigarcia7116
@nerigarcia7116 21 сағат бұрын
I think the technology raises the bar which allows riders to push the limits that much further. However, it's not making it more dangerous itself, in fact it is improving the safety, yet it is the riders that are pushing a bigger envelope instead of staying comfortably tucked inside it.
@mommamooney
@mommamooney 12 сағат бұрын
I really appreciate Ollie’s campaign for accessibility over the last year. I love that he’s looking for pluses in cheaper gear instead of pointing out what they’re missing. Looking forward to his road bike TT season
@LPmaterials
@LPmaterials 23 сағат бұрын
Maybe reduce the peloton by riders per team or number of teams participating. For example, 5 riders per team in GTs will force riders to conserve more energy for the entire 3 week stage and make the race slower.
@howardrothweiler5167
@howardrothweiler5167 22 сағат бұрын
I have a few simple ideas on how to limit the amount of accidents and injuries in competitive cycling. 1- no teams (this would also insure that the best rider would win). 2- limit the amount of entries so that instead of 174 in the 2024 Tour De France there would be a more realistic field of maybe 40 or so riders .This also helps to eliminate team riding. 3- No chase vehicles. Just not having vehicles on the same road as the riders is instantly safer but also makes the outcome of the race more dependent on the rider and the bike (not the BS team in the vehicle). 4- Have a separation zone between the fans and the riders. Can you discuss this in a non bias conversation?
@branislavtrninic4505
@branislavtrninic4505 21 сағат бұрын
Impossible
@Like2Bike42
@Like2Bike42 16 сағат бұрын
Ollie: I'm not a big sweater No, you're a li'l hoodie
@deadcandisco5974
@deadcandisco5974 10 сағат бұрын
Instead of restricting the equipment on the bike, why not make more protective body equipment mandatory, like padding and more protective helmets. This would not only result in less severe injuries, but it would also reduce the speed slightly being less aero. You could then continue to improve the technology in both bike and protective gear as needed. Downhill and slope style mounting biking are very dangerous, they just wear the appropriate protective gear, and get on with it.
@newhorizons.english
@newhorizons.english 23 сағат бұрын
It's a funny one because we road cyclists go down descents wearing nothing but a helmet and lycra. Maybe we'll see something akin to down hill MTB in the future, things like knee pads, elbow pads, abrasion resistant clothing and here's a wild one, maybe even air-bag neck protection
@josephreilman8527
@josephreilman8527 23 сағат бұрын
They've already tried the last one. It was dangerous
@oninjadaburaca
@oninjadaburaca 14 сағат бұрын
yes!
@vo2maximus177
@vo2maximus177 18 сағат бұрын
Bigger tyres, better grip, better braking, faster speeds, faster descending. Even at 64 on my C64(!)Disc, I can fit 30mm Tubeless and the grip is phenomenal. Pros go even faster, downhill especially, guys on the front pushing it, braking later, there WILL be crashes behind.
@AthrunZalax09a
@AthrunZalax09a 16 сағат бұрын
One of the biggest reasons I would be okay with limiting aero clothing would be barrier/cost to entry. Entering racing today doesn’t REQUIRE aero clothing, but it can be daunting seeing the costs of trying to maximize your potential as you enter. And if it makes the sport safer while making it easier to get into, I’d be okay with that.
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 22 сағат бұрын
We need that to be a regular feature, Science Cycling Buddies, where a pat on the back is like a ring of the bell. 😀
@timc9619
@timc9619 12 сағат бұрын
For the safety aspect in racing, one simple thing I think could be easily changed is the 3km rule. If they have it in place for the stage, just take the time there. It would reduce the bunch sprints to just the people competing for the placing. The whole, "same time if you crash" just seems stupid, take the time and eliminate a few crashes/injuries a year.
@frenzalrhomb1
@frenzalrhomb1 17 сағат бұрын
If there's a problem it's that the whole field is capable of winning rather than just a few super stars. More competition equals....... More competition.
@lason999
@lason999 19 сағат бұрын
It's an interesting chart Alex showed. It shows serious injuries rather than a number of crashes. So it may mean that there may be a similar or even lower number of crashes, but speed makes them more serious causing more injuries. Another thing to consider is tv coverage starting much earlier into the race, often being from start to finish. It pushes teams to attack earlier and making whole race/stage much faster and nervous in the peloton.
@johanengblom
@johanengblom 7 сағат бұрын
I guess the boring answer is to stop racing on roads and only on closed race tracks. Then you can control the surroundings and modify the track to make it safer for the riders between each year. Otherwise you could maybe make longer courses to reduce the speed, limit the number of people in the peloton, mandatory recon of the course and big fines to organizers if a crash occurs on their course this will enforce more neutral sections, like the yellow virtual flag in F1
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB 3 сағат бұрын
Full course yellow like in IMSA is better than virtual flags.
@DriveWI
@DriveWI 41 минут бұрын
Idea to slow down racing: dynamic resistance hubs. The faster they go the more magnetic drag there is within the wheels. That would equalize the additional drag for everybody instead of adding baggy clothes or non aero bikes.
@mommamooney
@mommamooney 12 сағат бұрын
As per slowing pro riders down, what about requiring wider tires? Not only would it slow them down, but it would make the bikes more stable as they corner and navigate rough surfaces such as cobbles and pot holes
@JMecc
@JMecc 17 сағат бұрын
Limiting gears won't make the slowdown you think; it'll just push out riders who develop their power from strength in favour of ones who do so via cadence. Part of the fun of cycling is that speed can come from infinite combinations of these and you don't have to be purely built one way or the other.
@ronradmer3573
@ronradmer3573 16 сағат бұрын
In NASCAR, they tried to slow the cars down to prevent crashes and save lives by limiting the amount of air that can enter the engines. In large part, it has worked. But it has made for closer racing and more exciting racing. Now this could work in UCI Tour races. They already race in large bunches, but the finishes would be closer together, making for more exciting racing for the fans. But how can you slow bikes down?... make them heavier. So just raise the UCI weight limit up one full pound. And guess what, this will also drop the retail price of bikes because the brands will only have to go back to tech from several years ago that they already have. But brands can still sell lighter versions of the bikes, but you cant use the lighter versions on the pro tour. Problem solved.
@lwittrock1
@lwittrock1 20 сағат бұрын
As a former racer I agree with many that tech is not the culprit here, it's the rider. I was never afraid of pushing the limits then and I raced as fast as i could to win. Everyone did and still do. Yes, there's times when strategy is more important and when you need to slow down, etc., but when the opportunity opened up to sprint ahead, you did!
@gregmuon
@gregmuon 20 сағат бұрын
I think it's partly a cultural thing. There used to be unwritten rules about deviating from you line or making sudden moves. This was necessary during the old no helmet days. If you weren't old enough to be there, watch some footage of old races and you'll see what I mean.
@philPJS
@philPJS 22 сағат бұрын
Road racing cannot be totally sanitised for the safety of the riders .....
@overcookit1433
@overcookit1433 23 сағат бұрын
There have been crashes, and there will always be crashes - maybe it would be another starting point to create protective clothings, as the most common injurie seems to be broken collarbones, but also brokes ellbows etc, so even crashed riders can be able to pick a reserve bike and continue riding. Rolf Aldag who is now in the staff of a racing team said in an interview in a german newspaper about the top speeds that on a certain descend he also rode down in his career, they barely reached 100 kmp, and now the riders usually have 120kph+ on that same descend; maybe protective clothing could also help slow down the riders AND increase their safety (win-win).
@lg.studio
@lg.studio 20 сағат бұрын
2:18 - “Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary, that's what gets you.” ― Jeremy Clarkson
@MarrafaCycling
@MarrafaCycling Күн бұрын
It's a great topic. I think it would make a positive difference if there were a limitation on the gear ratio. Imagine going downhill and still having a few extra gears available the speed could become excessive given the road conditions, curves, switchbacks, and bike handling. We can't rely on the argument of 'we just need to be mindful' yes, that's true, but when you're in an important competition with adrenaline pumping, it's a whole different story.
@timoma6620
@timoma6620 21 сағат бұрын
Strongly disagree. Firstly, that would mean the gears would need to be custom tailored to every stage individually, which is an insane waste of resources. Secondly, the ability to manage your speed properly within given conditions under the influence of adrenaline is what differentiates good sportsmen/women from those who shouldn't be at the top level of the sport.
@humpy125
@humpy125 5 сағат бұрын
Surely a lot of crashes occur in corners and sections where the peloton need to slow down. A bit hard to say that speed is the major contributing factor.
@markbowley3737
@markbowley3737 7 сағат бұрын
It would be interesting to look at the correlation between the increase in crashes and injuries and the increase in rewards for winning.
@renzhilin2775
@renzhilin2775 Сағат бұрын
I had a crash last September. I was riding on the correct side(right side in my country) of the road and was approaching my destination. Since I was almost there, I decided to look down on my Garmin to see my stats. I looked down for like one second, didn't see this a-hole riding the wrong side of the road and was riding towards me, we collided. I fell and broke two ribs. It was actually the second time on this very road I collide was a-holes who didn't give a crap about traffic rules. The first time I was lucky that I was not severely hurt; the second time my luck ran out. It was a wake up call for me: I should pay more attention to the road and traffic condition instead of my riding stats. Since then I don't check cycling computer when I'm commuting in the city. So Yeah, in this instance I totally agree that tech can be blamed for causing more crashes. I think i'm not the only one checking cycling computer way to much.(also many cyclist check their phone on the ride, which is also dangerous)
@jonathanzappala
@jonathanzappala 23 сағат бұрын
GCN tech: is tech making cycling more dangerous: GCN tech: vision made us a front disc wheel for a video 🤣
@gcntech
@gcntech 23 сағат бұрын
Ollie and Alex don't to worry about going as fast as the pros 😂
@matthewfield9349
@matthewfield9349 2 сағат бұрын
It sounds like they should implement harsher penalties for unsafe riders. Bigger fines, bigger time penalties, more willingness to give out race bans. I don't follow competitive cycling outside of the TDF, but this is the approach taken with motorsports. Too many young new drivers were coming in with overconfidence and causing major accidents by being too aggressive
@slowridr
@slowridr 16 сағат бұрын
I always love it when you guys share your screen and you can see what adverts you’re getting served. Looking at Winspace frames eh? Suits you sir. 13:24
@luukslutter6393
@luukslutter6393 21 сағат бұрын
That’s my emonda! Thanks for featuring the bike. And the cranks are purposely just a bit off. This way it hides the others side behind the chain stays
@Gabizzle3
@Gabizzle3 3 сағат бұрын
The race organizers are not doing any favors with a severe lack of safety around traffic islands as these should never cause a crash natively. The tech outside of racing needs to advance, including the coverage as motorcycles even struggle to keep up with riders, causing additional hazards with the sheer amount of equipment and personnel they have to carry.
@LozGroverMastering
@LozGroverMastering 2 сағат бұрын
Hats off to you Ollie. Road bike TT's are the true 'testing' in my humble opinion.
@gcntech
@gcntech 2 сағат бұрын
especially with a hidden motor, Dr Oli....
@ebikescrapper3925
@ebikescrapper3925 21 сағат бұрын
Cycling racing has an inherent risk, don't compete if you are not prepared to accept the risk
@barrypape9496
@barrypape9496 5 сағат бұрын
Regarding safety, get rid of earpiece communication. All the DS ’s shouting get to the front, road narrows, etc causes pile ups.
@jimsouthorn
@jimsouthorn 20 сағат бұрын
I would suggest that the readily available tech that can be used before getting to top level racing makes everyone faster at an earlier age but without the benefit of real-life race experience - Strava, power meters, Zwift, Veloviewer, etc. Modern road infrastructure also doesn’t help…
@oninjadaburaca
@oninjadaburaca 14 сағат бұрын
The least that should be done is the mandatory introduction of light armoured clothing.
@adamsandler4076
@adamsandler4076 23 сағат бұрын
What about accidents DUE TO new technology? Carbon rims braking, hookless tyres coming off, locking a wheel on descend with hydrolic bakes... I do not think it is that hard to analise 300-something incidents. I wander ow many of them are like so...?
@wurm8648
@wurm8648 Күн бұрын
The biggest dangers involve high speed descents, right? Organizers could avoid these in planning the route, although that could take some of the excitement out. They could also implement speed zones, where they set a max speed through areas they deem as dangerous. End of the day though, any added safety measures are inherently going to dilute the sport at least some.
@petehand7690
@petehand7690 16 сағат бұрын
Race craft and riders handling is a major issue, too many people ride indoors but are rabbits in headlights when out on the road.
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB 3 сағат бұрын
Yeah, too many are all about watts, w/kg, etc Even road cycling has a skill element - and too many are horrific.
@wenschobert
@wenschobert 6 сағат бұрын
Many crashes are often just "race incidents" where nobody is at fault... But I believe crashing at hire speed is more dangerous than crashing at lower speeds... So all in all ristricting parts of tech that reduce speed (like limiting gears) is a way to do that... if you'd not restrict anything, the peloton would be racing recumbants quite often...
@sautez8
@sautez8 20 сағат бұрын
Oliie starts this off with saying there was a PSA about how going up 10KPH faster increases the likelihood of death from 10% to 90%. Then later on, "Brent" says the gears only increases it by 10KPH that is not a big deal.
@doctorscoot
@doctorscoot 19 сағат бұрын
I think the course selection, maintenance, marshalling, paramedical response, and _rider tracking_ are the things that should be improved. Case in point- Muriel Furrer. Two hours laying on the side of the track at the World Championships!
@IlanEyman
@IlanEyman 23 сағат бұрын
Loved the “Carbon Copy” line.
@robhardisty9395
@robhardisty9395 5 сағат бұрын
Racing too fast? Introduce Anti-power ups: training parachute deploys over a certain speed and sprinters have heavy duty dynamos fitted
@DPS-Runner_Cyclist
@DPS-Runner_Cyclist 22 сағат бұрын
“Blood on the Highway” that’s the video they showed us in the 80’s during drivers ed in NC.
@playandteach
@playandteach 18 сағат бұрын
If you limit gearing on race bikes, I predict that training and bike positions will be adjusted to increase the ability to spin faster. Also, does the rise in indoor training mean that some riders are increasing their ability to go faster without developing bike handling skills to the same level?
@heinzholger8321
@heinzholger8321 19 сағат бұрын
The way Alex struggles to not call it "marketing BS" 😆
@cherriagana
@cherriagana 20 сағат бұрын
Scuba diving with cycling gear? Sounds like Hank is in for a ride :D .... or swim.
@TravisBrodie
@TravisBrodie 15 сағат бұрын
What about smaller pelotons? Less people in a bunch, more room on the road
@FroilanPama-k6f
@FroilanPama-k6f 5 сағат бұрын
Set maximum speed in downhill to 80km, In sprint finish, allow only 3 cyclist per team in last 5km
@emmabird9745
@emmabird9745 2 сағат бұрын
Alex is right that GPS doesn't show the drain covers or cobbled corner or ..... though it would not be impossible to have special stage maps (organisers could do it) with special hazards marked on (like petrol and restraunts on ordinary maps?). Best way to limit aero is to raise the bars so further reducing aero tuck (and incidentally reduce the head down not look charge) by putting in a ruling limiting height of bars below the saddle and limiting the drops. Level playing field, so fair, but slow them down. Ollie, the boss might care if the commuter is late.
@stevenporter9484
@stevenporter9484 19 сағат бұрын
It’s the ultra narrow bars!
@timmohr2922
@timmohr2922 12 сағат бұрын
Choosing to increase risk- whether that is tech or not- is driven by incentive. While there is incentive to go faster (take more risk) the danger will increase. Regulation has a role…helmet regs, aero regs etc. The regs should be driven by safety data. The injuries should be turned into a database and regulations should be considered that increase safety while maintaining the spirit of competition.
@nathanielkhoom6043
@nathanielkhoom6043 16 сағат бұрын
Everyone has to run maximum 25mm deep rims. Would look strange, but hey. My other thought is making D3O (it's the flexible stuff that goes solid when hit, I think that's the name for it) and add it to the skinsuits everyone wears, especially across the back, shoulders and shorts. I agree with Alex though, gearing wouldn't slow riders down at all.
@PhilR-b8
@PhilR-b8 16 сағат бұрын
Alex I googled "what colour is bronze? ......"Bronze is a metallic Brown colour. Followed by 'What is the meaning of the colour bronze?? "Bronze is a mild brown with yellow" .......Sorry mate........BUT its still a bloody cool bike
@clewstah
@clewstah 23 сағат бұрын
Maybe cycle racing should develop and start enforcing the use of something similar towards motorcycle race suits. *shrugs*
@marksmithWLC
@marksmithWLC 22 сағат бұрын
Safety in all bike racing is surely dependent on rider ability, technological advancement (aero) AND road/circuit/route. Extending the F1 comparison, all of these factors are considered in assessing risk. Riders are joining the pro peloton at a much younger age than ever before and inevitably lack the experience of the seasoned pros who served a longer apprenticeship at youth and junior levels (interestingly at a time when gear ratios were still restricted). The “state” of modern urban traffic calming measures feels to me (as a plucky amateur who is slowing down with age) makes many road races unsafe and dangerous! Imagine the FIA deciding to introduce speed bumps, roundabouts, road narrowing using concrete bollard, etc) on F1 circuits!
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles 19 сағат бұрын
Ollie, life is already unfair enough for us sprinters and rouleurs. The last thing we need is more drag chasing back on.
@EnterTheOrb
@EnterTheOrb 17 сағат бұрын
Seen a lot of crashes involving team cars and motorbikes. Maybe limit the cars speed and size
@paulgach7606
@paulgach7606 15 сағат бұрын
If you truly want to slow down bike races, make the minimum weight of race bikes between 10 and 15 kg, outlaw all aero frames, and insist on metal, all round frame tubes. This will lessen carbon, which is bad for the environment anyways. You could make the light, aero, carbon frames for us recreational riders.
@Dhungerf60
@Dhungerf60 17 сағат бұрын
At the end of the day, it’s a race, I think that the speed of the riders is just fine, however, I think there needs to be a different approach that minimizes the pack size of the sprint finish, get the GC and the lead-out guys out of the way sooner. If you want to slow them down, put them on some 4” chunky-boy tires.
@colindickey2029
@colindickey2029 21 сағат бұрын
How about mandatory drag-inducing tires for particular races? Various options could be considered on a race-by-race basis. I imagine the tires could be designed to only create significant drag at higher speeds.
@Cycle.every.day.
@Cycle.every.day. Күн бұрын
But pros didn't wear helmets for 80 years , hence cycling now is much much safer than 'ye oldie days'
@Local.hero.1983
@Local.hero.1983 Күн бұрын
True
@0-60.tests.with.Passengers
@0-60.tests.with.Passengers Күн бұрын
Yeah, it stands out like a sore thumb that they're not giving deaths in races stats over the last 100years as it wouldn't tie up with their clickbaityness.
@alanheary1621
@alanheary1621 23 сағат бұрын
I didn’t ride for a year and gained 10kg. I was definitely slower after that. Maybe we should get pros to do that 😂
@mommamooney
@mommamooney 13 сағат бұрын
“Speed kills” was an American thing too, at least in my state
@eliasburgos7714
@eliasburgos7714 22 сағат бұрын
Would making the final 500 meters of the race wider giving everyone more room make a difference?🤔
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