What can a cheap Chinese brand do with a bigger budget? - Loong carbon frame

[@ropmop1]

I think that two of the decals being inverted is cool!! 😍

[@karlhughes-c7l]

Was going to agree, better like this than uniform

[@the6ig6adwolf]

The decals aren't inverted though. From the top, down stickers go green and then pink. From front to back the stickers are green to pink. The original layout was inverted.

[@Glutzie]

I thought they were right compared to the others 🤷‍♂ Not my design

[@urouroniwa]

I was going to post that the way they did it is dramatically better than the way it was requested to be done. I have a feeling a stubborn designer was, "Nope. No can do."

[@4tressed]

I tend to agree, and the fact those that are flipped are in the same level make it looks like it's meant to be like that :)

[@ElrocStone]

Hi Luke, I can help with the stretching. I used to be a Muay Thai instructor and can still easily stick my chin between my knees at age 54. The trick is simple, do a warmup (maybe 10 mins on the turbo?) then do your normal stretch as far as you can go, hold in position and inhale a lungful, then exhale all the air out as you stretch further. It will relax your body in a way that will surprise you, you'll get a significant amount added to the stretch, especially as you push the last bit of air out. It's easy to test, you can do it cold just to see if it works (it absolutely does), warmed up works even better.

[@tomcruz3774]

From personal experience, just warming up has made a massive difference. I'll give the stretches a try too.

[@mango9087]

Sounds like yoga to me!!!!

[@rayzecor]

Streching out my hamstrings has always been both painful and satisfying to me. I can't even imagine being able to stick your chin in between your knees.

[@triatheletewolf7279]

I just built up a Loong with 2024 SRAM Red, all carbon SuperTeam Wheelset and could not be happier!!!! This is my 3rd OG-Evkin Bike and my 3rd set of SuperTeams. My first 2 were full Campagnolo Record and I have ridden the crap out of both those bikes. Going on 10 years now with Maddy and OG-Evkin!!!

[@DDai-qd8uk]

Lol

[@hankschrader2353]

OG EVKIN and Red. Hah

[@ectwins8128]

Tire clearance on the frame?

[@peteracosta6928]

Please tell us a little more about your impressions on the ride quality, thanks. I might get it soon as well.

[@commandocringe7557]

c'mon looks even better with the inverted sets of stripes :D

[@tiptoptigger]

Definitely looking forward to seeing the final build.

[@filipkablasek5713]

I managed to get one from them last week with deal without handlebars for 771 euro, really looking forward when it arrives

[@NaeemAli-s2v]

Hi Ali here Hope u are doing well I'm from Mauritius I have been watching your videos for years I really appreciate what u do for the bike communities

[@merckxy54]

Again, great content Luke. Good luck to you and your family for 2025. Keep pumping out the video's!

[@stuartwalker6786]

Absolutely THE BEST Vlog review format on here!! Loving them! 👊

[@edmundas919]

Hey Luke, I'm also stiff even though I'm in my early 30s. For the past 2 years I was stretching with minimal results. Went to a doctor due knee pain and got diagnosed with muscle imbalance and weak muscles in general, because I focus so much on cycling. This off-season I started weightlifting and already see improvements. Flexibility is all about ability for muscles to relax. Muscles stiffen up to protect body from injury and with weak muscles this reflex kick off sooner. For hamstring I do stiff leg deadlifts and for lower back I do Jefferson curls, especially focusing on stretched positions.

[@kaseycarpenter73]

That blindside fork solution to the sleeker thru-axle profile is genius.

[@Bikey_McBeardface]

I've got FOUR of the Magene p505 Pm's and they have been flawless. One has been on my Ti Gravel bike for 2 UK winters and has never skipped a beat, I occasionally check against my Wahoo Kickr, and they always line up within 1-2w.

[@Morbuto]

I understand why they flipped the colours of the stripes... makes the design look more balanced.

[@BCRUK]

Great video Luke, I'm a big fan of OG Evkin and recently did a review of bar tapes on my channel, definitely came out as one of the best 👍🏻 Good luck with the channel for 2025!

[@iaing2030]

Very recently found your channel when I was off for Xmas. Really enjoying looking over the old videos of some of the builds that you have done. My New Year’s resolution is to start cycling again, which I haven’t done since about 2015. Since new year I have been eating healthier, and cycling 4 times a week using the Garmin Century plan as a way to force myself out. Keep up the great work and looking forward to the next video.

[@tsw123456789]

My new year resolutions lose 30 kg, shoulder press 100 kg, cycle 100 miles in 1 session.

[@Mt.Trashmore]

Bruh, I can shoulder press 60kg on 1rpm, you'll be an absolute beast by 100! Good luck buddy!

[@tsw123456789]

@@Mt.Trashmore cheers dude.

[@L3uX]

Dont forget food/diet! Whole foods only (skip out in oils/ high PUFA) and you’ll make it buddy.

[@1_mensch]

The lighter color facing either forward or upward gives the illusion of speed. I can understand the design decision, but a good designer would have talked to the customer, beforehand.

[@Da5idc]

About lunch - check out the Low Carb, High Fat diet. Since I've been on it, my sugar dips are a thing of the past. Also, I feel less hungry so may only eat twice a day. AND, my cholesterol has improved 😊

[@lunatiy]

I love the inner vids of carbon rare to see on bike content(excluding raul luescher), it's funny we've gone full circle to threaded bb. Thanks for the great content.

[@johnbertram]

That orange looks the proper business!!

[@_MattyG_]

Mine are/ eat BREAKFAST & stretch. Also added some kettlebell workouts twice a week, helped a lot!

[@Adi7x]

For a person with such high levels of dopamine it's great that you eat:) I don't need coffee when i watch your vids. Have a great year and good luck with your resurrections

[@QuesrForPaul]

I would argue that the stripes look better as they are in this "wrong way around" configuration

[@Hambini]

11:57 the bearing seat looks like it's frayed pretty badly. Complete with lashings of epoxy. I suspect there is a void under there or it just didn't mould very well. It's probably not a show stopper but a lot of people would reject that.

[@jeanmorali4190]

Pas beaucoup de progrès en qualité 😢

[@TraceVelo]

So I've uploaded a picture of the bottom of this bearing seat here: imgur.com/a/ZRsn7uf There a small amount of excess epoxy, but still looks pretty tidy, and no voids present from what I can see. But let me know what you think!

[@Hambini]

I uploaded a link with annotation but I think youtube have blocked it. Anyhow there is a post on the front page of my website in latest posts. You can see the annotation there.

[@jkspcoy]

Saw the picture Luke, would deffo reject it ! Not round deffo voids, would it fail under load hmmm

[@TraceVelo]

​@@Hambini Cooooool, a post on hambini.com! Thanks for taking a gander. I recon the bearing seat will be fine, but you never really know until you start piecing it all together. They have given me some trouble in the past, so I'll definitely check it over again before I build the bike up!

[@jonburnell532]

The gloss purple frame is stunning. Genuinely considering one of these

[@SteveKimbo]

Hi Luke! I started doing 10-15 minutes of yoga and 10-15 minutes of strength work with one of those GYMPROLUXE things after Christmas. I'm 43 and my back is terrible. The yoga and strength is already helping me through the day. The new frame looks fantastic and I can't wait to see it built up! 🥖🥖🥖🥖

[@kid_gen]

Stretching was a resolution I set for myself some years back and now I stretch almost every night. It's not only great to be more flexible, but you're less prone to injuries, and you release a lot of physical tension. In my experience, it has improved my sleeping as well since I stretch before going to bed.

[@BurntToast1]

Watched this over lunch 😂 so I can’t relate to that resolution, but being a couple of years older and similar hamstring and back issues I can relate to that. Best thing I’ve done is adding weight training. Has helped more than stretching ever did for me. Best wishes into 2025 🥖🥖🥖

[@CashPope]

dude, i was just binging your vids a few hours ago

[@frank215]

With the dieting, I find eating a bigger, balanced breakfast(more fiber than carbs) earlier will allow you to feel hungry for lunch without being starved or crashing. This will help you be able to build a routine to support your current lifestyle. I highly recommend small snacks in between meals as well.

[@the6ig6adwolf]

The vertical stickers (fork, seattube) green is first, then pink. The horizontal stickers (toptube, chainstay), the sticker layout is the same, green and pink. I think they nailed the layout.

[@slowlivingindonesia2024]

My experience with their components (integrated handlebar, seatpost and BarFly) on my previous bike was positive, with good overall build quality.

[@robprice7242]

All the very best to you and your family for 2025. Looking forward to your content for the new year 🥖🥖🥖🥖

[@mikej.3429]

14:55 This year I learned how important stretching is! I also never did it much since I doing bike sport, which now resulted in two damaged kneecap due to the shortened leg muscles. The increased pressure to the caps just destroyed the gristles of both caps. Everyone hear my words: Stretch your muscles every day!

[@jamesbarber6375]

Great vid, happy to see you using some more premium parts on this build. I'm currently building up an Elves Vanyar frame i picked up used for £160, with a bunch of Ali Express parts, some you've recommended. Its been a learning experience with trying to get the cables through this carbon handlebar...😅

[@alannkevin]

luke its good you told us about how you feel. I am going through the same thing with my hamstrings, it started like 3 months ago and ive done anything in my power to release the hamstrings and they cramp all the time, never had hamstring issues in my life and now I am 37 everything wants to cramp specially if I try to push hard on the pedals, Its very annoying and its affecting my performance. Upload some videos about you addressing the issue like stretches or massages so we can learn what works and what don't.

[@george.carlin]

Do it man. I had L5-S1 disk herniated at 31 or 32 years old. Insane pain. It was reoccurring every fall (driving a lot in the fall and it gets much colder in Canada). After crawling like a baby for 10 years i finally put it as a main priority and started doing morning 20 min exercise, stretching in the afternoon and doing weekly Pilates and yoga classes. One or two times each. So around 42 I started improving and last five years it has not happened to me. Pain free and no surgery, just routine work every day. 20 min every morning and 2-3 hours weekly. Turning 53 this year and feel better/stronger than I felt at 31.

[@FantaconeBoxWorksCBG]

Very nice. Decals look fine.

[@user-gk9oj3nb1m]

Another great frame review - included Ti bolts is a plus point for me!

[@leonsardine]

i would be very interested to see Luke take on an electronic gravel build, or even just review a complete off the peg solution.

[@Bu5t3R]

I get what your saying about lunch and stretching. Both are super important. I started doing yoga 5 years ago and it changed my life. When my daughter was born in 23’ it destroyed all of my progress because I completely stopped doing all of the good habits I had formed like stretching and exercising off the bike. You’re still young so don’t wait to get things right. 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

[@alexclare4992]

Can’t wait to see the full build

[@oplkfdhgk]

looks nice. i feel like some other bikes go too crazy with the colors but this one is just right. not too much color.

[@AboutMyBikes]

Cannot wait to see the whole build ❤

[@vladfromfrance]

I like the fork thru axle thing. Quite surprising that other brands aren't all doing that already at this point.

[@joaob.almeida5176]

Yo Luke, absolutely lovely video. Aways great seeing your takes and sugestions on bike tech, and this was no exception, but even the cheaper carbon frames are still kinda out of the reach here in Brasil, so I'd really love to se maybe an cheaper build with an aluminium frame.

[@TheMattist]

With the magene power meter, use blue loctite on all the threads on the non drive side. The single bolt can come loose. Also follow the torque instructions correctly. I’ve had no issues with it at all using loctite, but some people have had issues without.

[@yaswanth99999]

Nice to see you with a power meter. Can see if there are any aero benefits over the older frame. It would be epic if you do this. Also, please consider checking out some cheap power meter pedals so that you can easily swap between bikes for easy comparison. Nice video

[@BulletGaming012]

That looks like it's going to be a fabulous bike, I'm very tempted!

[@wazzup105]

Please do a follow up video later on this year about how all that stretching is working out for you. Not only the static tests like touching your toes, but how does it affect your riding.

[@jasonreynolds1715]

I like the stripes like that!

[@arcoulant87]

Porridge every day for breakfast works for me .

[@frankjansen2226]

There are actually two types of T47. The wider version (frame) uses the thin cups which you show on your video. But there’s also a narrower version which uses wider cups. The total width of the system is the same, but the frame on the latter is thinner. Curious to see the full build!

[@bolboltik4546]

The inverted decals make it more interesting. What i dont like is the different angle which looks like a mess. I am not sure as the angle of the fork can mess it up in the video.

[@anterrickson2585]

Stoked for this build!

[@renatorocha8274]

Hey Luke, would you ever consider doing a gravel build with Ltwoo gravel electronic groupset. Love the videos. Keep up the amazing work

[@parmijo]

OG Evkin specs say max of 30C tires. Seems small nowadays. Wonder if you can actually go larger.

[@jssaylor]

That caught my eye as well.

[@ectwins8128]

@@jssaylor same

[@homersadiarin9299]

Most manufacturers say max at 28C or 30C but in reality, you can still use a little bit bigger tyres. As long as your wheels fits, it will do.

[@hambo76]

Resistance training will help with mobility more than stretching.

[@JektorII]

Yes! The magene powermeter! I'm really looking forward to that!! Please also use magene computers and a magene radar!

[@kurtleitch5240]

Adding to the wealth of suggestions here re: stretching... I do the Tom Merrick hamstring flexibility follow along 3-4 times per week. 20 mins at the outside per session..... biiiig difference in flexibility after a few weeks.

[@paulbowen6763]

As someone approaching their 60th Birthday and cycling almost 16000kms /year these are my suggestions! Try drinking a mug of Ginger tea in the morning (few slices of fresh ginger with boiling water) ginger is a natural anti inflammatory along with other things, you need to do this every day as the effect is very gradual! also walking a few kms is very good after cycling if you can afford the time! A few glasses of red wine is also nice! as for a meal replacement try Y Food ! as recommened by Matt Armstrong! it's a Meal replacement drink! and they could sponser you! Qui Sais! 😀

[@fierox88]

Really cool they made you a custom painted frame! I have an old OG-EVKIN frame (CF024) thats holding up fine, this frame looks great tho! Maybe i should retire my old one to Zwift duty 😅

[@davidpalk5010]

Can't wait to get an OG Evkin. My mates riding Pinarellos and Colnagos are going to be so jealous...

[@benbammens]

Get another brand... I had a MTB frame from them with a crooked BB shell. They kept playing me for about 3 months. They were lying, saying I would get another frame under warranty.They even said it was sent to keep me quiet. In the end they had sent nothing and they had been lying to me all this time. They are crooks. Avoid this brand

[@whizler]

I purchased a Hygge Chinese frame very much like this one in looks - including EPS-molded, integrated handlebars, seatpost, threaded BB, but with a custom paint - for around $700 USD. Weight was 1kg on the nose for size M. T800/T1000 carbon fiber. Not sure what I'd get for $500 more with the OG-EVKIN.

[@benbammens]

The OG-Evking come without warranty, that's for sure (unless you are a well known youtuber)

[@LawrenceSeetoh]

Thank you Luke, that frame looks exciting. i wonder how it compares to the enduiirance frames when you ride them. Happy New Year, remember to stretch more and eat your lunch. 🥖🥖🥖🥖🥖

[@KazurinRyuu]

Luke the Magene P505 power meter cranks are not compatible with T47 BB. Their AE page as well as their response to my direct message confirmed it to be not compatible. Lots of people have reported the cranks rubbing with the outer edge of the BB on social media

[@stuartdryer1352]

The solution to that is BBInfinite T47 bottom bracket. It is specifically designed to solve that problem for that design of power meter which also includes Rotor. With that bottom bracket I am able to run the Magene power meter with the T47 and it works perfectly.

[@nphtung]

Have a T47 BB with P505, don’t know the brand bc mechanic / shop bought and put them on. Didn’t notice any rubbing?

[@nphtung]

Ok, did a quick research, only affects T47 internal, without cups. I have cups, TV probably too.

[@dbgrand]

​@@nphtungthis frame has T47 with internal caps, 86,5 mm and that Magene power meter will not fit normally. I'm not sure about BBInfinite BB, never heard of that solution.

[@christobessinger105]

That bottom bracket must be strong… same type of engineering on Cervelo S series 👍

[@_NoName...]

New resolution for Luke this 2025: avoid cheap deals? For real? Can't be possible! We, mere followers of The King's Tight budget, can't believe it!! 😂😂 Thanks for the video, I have a stem from Og Evkin: Great!

[@johnbertram]

The frame packaging looked top notch - I like the way they used, what I assume, are velcro straps to hold the frame in place. I hate zip ties that seem to be used elsewhere!!

[@boyacki]

very interesting on the EPS method vs bladder and impressive to see the depth of product anaylsis! more funnies please!! I just picked up a Seraph TT X38 which would be awesome to consider for the future? for your NYR, i recommend a daily timer and preparing lunches the night before. for stretching, I brush my teeth in the forward standing bend position and suqat positions. the tooth brush times itself to 30s so i know to change to a different quarter of my mouth and change position. hope this helps or gives inspiration for ideas that may help !

[@mikeypalmer3977]

Another great video. Thank you.

[@barryliu3473]

take care of yourself! This should be on the list for everyone! Nice ring btw--super cool 🥖🥖🥖

[@attilarepasi6052]

Nice design, just one idea, the angle of the strips on the top tube should match the others.

[@songfta]

That Magene power meter is great! It's better still if you use original Shimano chainrings on it as they shift like butter compared to the competition.

[@PhiLoSoPheR_NonSenSe]

There was a post/survey by GCN asking whether we'd travel down the rabbit hole called [cheap Chinese carbon fiber] and some people like me said we'd seek your opinion first. 😅 Do what you do best! Happy New Year!

[@hiigara2085]

those gcn guys are so elitist about brands.

[@Bikey_McBeardface]

Those bolts are almost definitely Ti, those flanged Hex head ones with the holes (which I assume are for the brake calipers) are "safety wire bolts" common on motorbikes and in aviation, the idea is you run a twisted wire in a kind of "S" shape between the bolts to stop them coming undone, you sometimes see something similar on truck wheels made from hi-viz yellow plastic. One important thing to note though: They are not usually supplied with washers because the wire+flange makes them unnecessary, if you are not going to wire them you should definitely use a washer and thread lock, as Ti will not naturally "bind" as well to the threads like steel or Alu would.

[@humstrumbangtwang]

Happy new year er……….Luke. 🎉

[@johndef5075]

Love the paint job.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

From cheap to mid level, let's baguette like we've never baguetted before

[@Burntoilcoffee]

My OG Evkin has been great

[@ry22]

Honestly i think the " mistake" on the decals is better than the original design

[@emmabird9745]

Happy New Year Luke. Aching back could be bike position too?

[@bjorne46]

🥖🥖🥖 Promising bike build. Keen to watching the episode. Next up, an MTB ? 🥖🥖🥖

[@RustyRacer]

I quite like the alternating stripes 🥖

[@KNURKonesur]

Luke, some great content as usual, but I wonder if one day you could step away from the carbon frames and try out a titanium Waltly, talk us through the experience and do a little test?

[@mareczuczek]

Just bought their carbon road handlebar. Crazy good quality for 50$

[@husarvargonai4846]

Your videos are really valuable. Could you please review their aero bike frame? I am currently looking forward for building it, however, I am not sure whether it’s good.

[@hertzvanrental2024]

Great looking frame.

[@DittersGustav]

I've got an ogevkin cf022 from around 2017. It is a good frame, but had a few QC issues, like the seat tube or seatpost that was a few degrees off center, as with the bottle cage mounting points.

[@CashPope]

first upload of the year let's go

[@antonXPS]

Wondering how that mold rides, look forward to the next video

[@jamesbarber6375]

Suggestion, for best bang for your time crunched buck, rather than doing pilates I'd recommend going to gym and doing some barbell exercises with a good stretch like stiff legged deadlifts. This will bullet proof your lower back and make you stronger on the bike.

[@wrongusername]

delamination on seattube 2:52 voids in fork 7:27 potential voids under headset race (dark spots out of focus) 10:09 Generally the bike did look pretty good, but keep in mind, this is an advert, not a review. Don't blindly trust influencers. I bet there are more problems if one were to look at the bike with a critical eye. I bet he gets a kickback if you order with his code.

[@EGregorio78]

One thing that surprised me was the ztto copper brake pads.

[@imrevadasz1086]

Neat, you got a Trace Velo special (pun might be intended) 🎉

[@hockysa]

🥖 T47 is the future imo. I’m running a SRAM groupset but have a BSA bb and the bearings are just too small. Would be nice if someone made DUB bb’s with larger bearings but until then I’m swapping them out for 24mm bb and changing cranks.

[@peteracosta6928]

When are you going to do a good test ride and give us your impressions? I do love their other bike, the 025, excellent bike.

[@larryngo11]

Great vid. Love the content

[@manfrommontreal]

I like the mismatched stripes 😅

[@SkylarsRnD]

If they do a white version I'd buy that in a heart beat