How Is A Titanium Bike Made? | Inside The Moots Factory

For a time in the 1990s titanium was thought to be the next big thing in cycling frame material, but since the widespread adoption of carbon fibre, titanium has taken somewhat of a backseat. But there are still those who swear by it's properties as a bike frame material, not least Moots Cycles. Manon visited their factory in Colorado to find out how titanium frames are made, and what makes their bikes special.
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[@bittiapina]

"This is the fin(n)ish department" 🇫🇮 I see what you did there.

[@royevans4581]

Aah yes, thanks. I was a bit slow there. 🤣🤣

[@jobanski]

I saw that up on the wall and thought, “that’s important for something!” Now it all makes sense!

[@danhutjens8328]

I got a literal LOL from that one. Awesome video!

[@eliaskosonen1480]

Torille💪

[@nplus1watches35]

I'd buy one of their frames based on that alone!

[@EarthSurferUSA]

I used to work for Nuke Proof making Ti Mt. bikes in Michigan in 94-95. I am the guy who got the hubs to stop breaking, and designed the "Atom Bomb" hub for suspension forks. But that is a Moot point today.

[@jerseybarrier64]

Bid kudos to @Mootscycles for opening up their facility in the way they did in this video. Manon is just a fabulous presenter and helps make you feel like you are right their along side her. Great to see such awesome employees building these beautiful frames. Rossi just looks like a happy, enthusiastic Moots team member and definitely puts the company’s future in great hands.

[@nathanielranario7618]

Titanium is quite expensive and out of my budget. But if you treat your titanium bike right, it will practically last beyond a lifetime.

[@RoyalDudeness]

Decathlon is selling a Titanium Gravel Bike for 2700€

[@julianallen515]

@RealSweetKid Rim brake?

[@treygray2817]

@@cyrilmonkewitz bought 2. Used. Paid $360 for the Lynskey and $380 for the Serotta.

[@andrecarvalho1606]

My Colnago titanium is still ticking after 25 years.

[@fabianvzwol1]

Seems like an office dog is obligatory at MOOTS!

[@johnnyboy3357]

Checking if anyone carries the infamous C or M in the workplace

[@charliedillon1400]

Colorado state law.

[@motionstudio77]

Thanks Manon & GCN Tech for the great tour, watching how the titanium bike was made is like watching an art presentation, is totally awesome!! Especially the welding part, man, how they handle the detail is freakin cool

[@billrobertson2437]

Love the dog beginning at 4:15. He crosses back and forth no less than 8 times for no apparent reason other than to be sure he is in the film. I also have some concern for the dogs getting their eyes burned in the welding shop. I just got my Moots Routt YBB about 2 months ago and love it. It is by far the finest bike I have ever owned. It was great to see how my bike was made!

[@r.davies2702]

Dogs have no place in the workshop.

[@karlnorgaard6077]

Can you feel a difference in the material compared to a chromoly, aluminum or carbon frame? I hear there's a springyness to a titanium frame.

[@lossantoscity3249]

Companies that allow pets are the best places to work. I worked in a bike shop that have a few dogs everyone there was so awesome. The only reason i left is i got a better offer on another job and ofcourse i get good bucks but everyone is just pure Ahole.

[@lynchs2441]

I'm sure they are not allowed to welding shop (due to clean preparation before welding).

[@Calum_S]

@@lynchs2441 there was a dog in the welding shop

[@BixbyConsequence]

Any shop that lets their workers bring dogs and bottles of hot sauce is doing it right.

[@janeblogs324]

2:24 you realise this dog will go blind being exposed to a tig welder all day right? Even if you can see the flash bouncing off a wall you're being hit with UV. Workshops are meant to have plastic screens around all welding bays. These workers are Welding sleeveless too. This is a horrible promotional video (unless this is a 3rd world factory)

[@BixbyConsequence]

@@janeblogs324 I realize these folks probably know more about welding than you do.

[@janeblogs324]

@@BixbyConsequence you can know how to weld without knowing anything about safety or consequences. They aren't mutually exclusive

[@ff2e]

That's what I thought too watching them weld sleeveless and then the dog shows up. I've never worked in a factory that lets you weld all day sleeveless it's like gaurenteed skin cancer for no reason. Plus it's destroying their tattoos. The dogs don't know not to look at an arc either. Wonder how many times the dogs have been flash burned from looking.

[@junktionfet]

This was awesome! It is so cool to see a company like Moots, creating almost everything right there in house. I'm glad we got a chance to see this insight. Thanks Manon!

[@privateinvestinsights]

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[@blackjackpinoko]

Moots is now selling a Chinese/Taiwan sourced bike. Some bean counters sold out their soul.

[@thomasbrooks2549]

Mannon back in the USA 🇺🇸 so cool 😎 reviewing a USA bicycle company. CGN needs to give Mannon more minutes for shows. Last weekend JULY 2023 trek 100 charity ride for childhood cancer Waterloo Wisconsin then tour trek headquarters suggestion for a future Mannon segment 😀

[@whirving]

For those who haven't dealt with or know about fixture making for bicycle tube cutting jigs, especially for curved tubes, they are difficult to make and make useable for precise curve indexing. That is, so that the curves end up on the plane they need to be in for accurate cutting and length. Those jigs were elegant, hats off to their setup people. I've worked in two different bicycle production lines in the US and this was glorious. Also, Mannon was just a great presenter, great video. She did well with the serial number die stamping, it's an acquired skill for most people, and not an easy one.

[@mrhankbotful]

Almost ordered a Moots after my last gravel bike died in a crash with a Jeep in January. The 7 month lead times and $10k price tag pushed me a different direction, and I built my own up with a Ti Kinesis frame and was back riding in about a month. I feel like Moots is an amazing brand making amazing bikes, but it's so eye wateringly expensive I'm not sure I should ever really buy one. The fear of scratching, dropping, or damaging the frame would make it hard to ride it without that constantly in the back of my mind.

[@prestachuck2867]

Good luck scratching or otherwise damaging one of those frames without the help of an automobile.

[@mrhankbotful]

@@prestachuck2867 titanium isn't magical. It gets abraided about as easy as steel, and concrete is capable of scratching it just fine if it hits the deck. My first Ti frame I bought at a bike swap. It had a repaired chainstay that had been abraided through when riding in mud. The rewelded chainstay survived everything I threw at it, including the Jeep that hit me. The top tube and down tube were torn off the head tube, but the weld in the chainstay was fine.

[@SuperNeilB]

My titanium frame gets scratched in the gentle crashes I have had but a quick rub with a scotch pad brings back the shine.....try that with a painted bike!

[@mrhankbotful]

@@SuperNeilB I agree, most small stuff can be polished out, and the lack of rust potential is one of my favorite parts about Ti bikes.

[@Stefano_Rodriguez]

@@prestachuck2867 Who informed you that titanium cannot be scratched or hard to damage? It is EASILY scratched.

[@bennetthasty7886]

I do LOVE seeing a beautiful bike hand-made in the US 🥰

[@fookie-fone]

What a timely episode! I just got my Vamoots RCS recently and am absolutely over the moon about it. It took 8 months from fit to finish (literally) and I can’t stop staring at it each time I pass by it in the garage. This is my second MOOTS and will certainly not be my last. I definitely need to visit Steamboat to see Brent and his team work their magic on these wonderful pieces of rideable artwork. Cheers, Manon! I loved this video!! Look for my Bike Vault submission of my new RCS soon!!

[@Nickolaswright]

Such a fabulous episode. Thank you GCN & Moots crew.

[@nrhalo]

I wonder whey they have a Finnish flag...? "This is the finish department."

[@raitshots]

Titaniun matreal very good. Hard matreal very cold temperatue Artica. Good heavy upload. Weld Tig or Mig +3000 temperature But real Titaniun matreal cheap. Good video 😎👍Light material

[@ridealoha2717]

Routt County was named after John Long Routt in 1877. While often confused with the pronunciation of the word Route as either 'root' or 'rout', it's actually not related. That said, their are amazing routes that wind all over Routt County that are pure fun to ride! 🚲

[@idiotru12]

Thank you for explaining that one because after this video I thought 'Route' was spelt that way in America and was very surprised!

[@JesucristodivinoyjustoJuez]

Cuánto cuesta una bicicleta mtb montaña rodada 29 para México de titanio??

[@rule3036]

The finish dept had the Finnish flag🇫🇮👍😁

[@rah4981]

Next do a vist to Litespeed titanium bike factory.

[@SonnyDarvishzadeh]

4:38 the dog realises there's a recording and quickly hides away 🤣

[@4lumi]

I thought that titanium should be welded in an atmosphere without oxygen, using special tools, is this correct?

[@bengt_axle]

They (supposedly) put a flow of argon gas inside the tubing to displace the oxygen. Some other Ti frame manufacturers like Nevi use an airtight tent in which the entire welding is done in an oxygen free environment.

[@ff2e]

I didn't see any back purging setup during the tacking process which should have been in place. Maybe they run the back purge gas in a location that isn't easy to see on camera.

[@davidide1525]

Thanks Manon ! I’ve been riding a Moots road bike for 10 years and just put Campy 12 speed mech. with Bora wto tl wheelset. I get nice comments on my “new” bike .

[@ulifluhme]

I ride a 2007 extralight with C12 and Boras - pics please!

[@davidide1525]

@@ulifluhme sorry not sure how to send pictures here. I will upload the latest to GCN+Bike Vault. Cheers !

[@ulifluhme]

@@davidide1525 links work but no worries

[@ChabbaChabba]

Manon is the best! Authoritative, curious, and fun 👍

[@nickpatten5263]

What an interesting video. Thanks Manon and Moots. Loved the dog friendly workplace too.

[@scottsutoob]

Routt isn’t a odd American spelling of route. John Long Routt was the first governor of Colorado

[@davestambaugh7282]

What I really want to know is how much vanadium and how much aluminum is added to your titanium???

[@derx6666]

10k for a bike. The bikes are amazing, but 10k... holy moly

[@a1white]

It’s a handmade bike, made in an expensive material that will last you a lifetime. The cost is probably realistic, for what it is, to be honest

[@MrDazP1adv3ntures]

That was a proper engineering workshop and them guys will be pretty talented for sure. A very interesting production GCN, thankyou ....

[@ronnakatani1503]

I loved watching the video. I own a 2013 Vamoots CR, that we had built up with a few minor adjustments. I love the bike. I wanted a bike that rode a little "softer" than a lot of the stiff racing bikes that were being built. With the components we used on the bikes and the great titanium frame, it has a ride I that is great for me. Titanium bikes are great since you don't have to worry about it rusting, and you automatically become a member of the titanium frame club. Thanks for the video and Thanks @MOOTCYCLES.

[@_J.F_]

The finish department and the Finnish flag wasn't lost on me 🤣

[@bensharpe2013]

Very interesting film. Great to know how a Titanium bike is made for me personally as i' m thinking about one as my next bike. Moots look like a great place to work 🙂

[@paulgush]

Nice video. Could have been even better if they'd gone into the special measures they have to take to weld titanium. Tricky to weld without oxidizing it, as far as I know

[@Patrick94GSR]

I believe you have to backpurge the inside of the tubes with argon gas or something like that. John at LHT Performance in Florida (Honda tuner) does a ton of Ti stuff for cars. Custom intakes, turbo charge pipes, exhaust and the like.

[@calderfa]

Awesome video! We need more like this one. It's great to see the whole process, makes you appreciate what you are riding that much more.

[@ff2e]

Dogs walking around a machine shop seems unsafe for the dogs and the people. A dog isn't going to know when to look away from a weld arc. I've never seen anywhere that lets someone weld all day in short sleeves. The place seems generally lax with PPE on camera which means they're probably worse when no one is there. Letting Mannon run machines with her hair down was an OSHA violation. Factories generally run a tight ship with workplace safety but moots seem like they've been lucky enough to not have had an accident yet.

[@monstrellsf-w8277]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@kevinlewis1235]

Ever watch those Indian repair videos? I wonder how they actually do with safety. I’ve been around to watch both sides of safety and notice that with complete safety measures comes a false sense of security and laziness. I trained this too so I agree with you just an observation of human nature. My sons a machinist too.

[@bubblesezblonde]

So great to watch skilled artists working with such a great material. Thanks. It takes a while to get the 'feel' of cold-stamping Manon, but it is crazy addicting for some reason.

[@WaechterDerNacht]

23:32 we can hear someone laugh in the background - i guess that's the camera person... I guess i would have the same reaction ^^

[@richchilds8173]

The young man helping Manon do the chainstays was great! Rossi, great job, you didn't seem nervous on camera, and you have great presentation and comedic delivery.

[@miseyrides]

I wish that they would have talk about the history of Moots. The founder of Moots and his master welder, both no longer part of Moots, made/make great bikes there in Steamboat Springs as well. I'm not saying anything bad about Moots, but its always good to know the history. Moots are great bikes.

[@VovanCBR]

while working on any bench I would suggest to braid hair. this is the first safety rule

[@steenate]

So this video holding up the production line is why the lead time is 6 months to get a frame 🤣

[@Erik-rc7iy]

Great video! Can you go to Litespeed and do a tour?!

[@ElmerShox]

the amazing progress in making the Titanium frame!! love this Material! 3bikessss is a must!! Thanks MOOTS for showing the Process

[@MrLuigi-oi7gm]

Watching titanium frame parts survive the "torture" of being bent and squashed into shape helps me understand one excellent reason why there is a devoted following of titanium bike riders. These bikes will survive conditions and crashes that would destroy a carbon bike. As an American, it's also nice to see this level of craftspersonship alive and well at Moots. Thanks for the awesome video.

[@WowRixter]

Nice to see a US made bike. I had a Ti bike made by another Colorado builder. I didn't see how it was built, but this gives me a good idea

[@kojoydesu4107]

a friend told me a story about Titanium Bike, One day an Old man, a cyclist was got into traffic accident with a City Bus, The Bus squash those Bike, all component are destroyed, but the Frame Unscathed. it even lifted the Bus several cm. People in the Old days have the name for Titanium, Mithril. now I know why

[@MrLuigi-oi7gm]

@@kojoydesu4107 ❤️

[@WowRixter]

@@kojoydesu4107 Thats a good/comforting story

[@kojoydesu4107]

@@WowRixter the man survive thankfully, he said its all his fault, he did not see the bus and ensure the Driver that its okay..

[@sethchapman8001]

I love titanium as a material, I make rings out of it as a jeweler. Titanium bike frames sound like such a great idea and they are so beautiful! Sadly I will never in my life be able to afford one (from Moot at least). I can't even afford to pay that for a car (life of a starving artist). At least I can see them on KZbin, and imagine riding one.

[@raff5604]

The amount of ads is getting absolutely ridiculous.

[@a1white]

Must have been about a dozen ads in this video (which is actually also labelled as an ad). Not sure if GCN have any control over this, but it made this film a bit unwatchable

[@timparker9174]

Great video. Show more about Moots bikes. What features they have and weight, cost. Cheers!

[@pangloss9]

Thanks for a great video! I have a Routt 45 coming soon and it was very nice to see how they're built.

[@chrisjong8412]

I don't mind these kind of ads from Moots on GCN, this is art in the making

[@moefuggerr2970]

Why wear those stupid suits.

[@iansellers1251]

The Moots guy Rosi seemed a good dude ! 👊

[@someinconsequentialusernam7799]

This was instructional, and fascinating, but I cringed hard when Manon had to turn off the cutting machine with her long hair hanging nearby. We bald guys don’t need to worry, but she should’ve had a hair tie to avoid her long tresses getting caught in a spinny device.

[@simonm1447]

Indeed, such long hair can have bad consequences if they get caught in rotating tools of the machine.

[@ff2e]

That's one of the OSHA violations found in this video.

[@SpiritualStuntman]

I rode my first Merlin in 1989 when I worked at Metropolis Bikes in Arlington, VA. I fell in love with Titanium on that day. Since then I've owned a 90's Litespeed Ultimate, a Merlin Extra Lite, a Litespeed Blade and finally a 2000 Litespeed Ultimate which I still have today. I did the thing where you drive into the garage with 2 bikes on the rack. One was my ultimate and the other was a very small carbon guru from a friend of mine. The ultimate took the brunt of it with the top of the garage hitting the seat and it literally ripped off my Thule rack and my bike was completely fine. Man. If that had been carbon it would been carbon, it would have been new bike time lol. Yes, I think my Argon 18 is faster than my Litespeed, but there are days when I pull out the Litespeed and smile like I did in 1989. Titanium is still a fabulous material for a bicycle, and in 100 years my Ultimate will still be rideable while my carbon bikes are in the landfill. Great Video 🙏🏽❤️

[@LuckyJack99]

Great vid - Moots is such an amazing shop - maker of magic rides !

[@ravipeter9280]

that brown dawg at 04:15 trying to look busy when the boss is around !😁

[@chrisk3754]

What a great factory. Crazy weld beads-like microscopic. Nice tour. So techy!

[@tomhunter5560]

GCN if you are brave you will do a segment about the extraction and refining of Ti. Mr. Lloyd, you owe me this for the pint I bought you in Boulder lol not that you'd recall and rightly so. Basically their carbon footprints are generally the size of Colorado- ten tons of CO2 per ton of Ti, though there may be a thermite 0 carbon solution pending. I have two Ti bikes (both Sandvik) because I think they ride and hold up the best, but the environmental cost is HUGE. C'mon, tell the whole Ti story. Good video here, nicely done, mopping, that's whole reporting story!

[@Brunelt12]

oh....long hair in the workshop with multiple big machines around....i don´t feel safe anyway

[@philadams9254]

4:13 dunno what the dog's job is, but it looks busy getting some serious work done! Couldn't take my eyes off it

[@kovie9162]

What's with all the misogynistic comments? Anyway, my 20 year old Ti frame is basically as good as the day I bought it, and, barring catastrophe, will, as they say, outlive me. How many carbon frames can this be said about? Pros race on them exclusively because they're even lighter and stronger than Ti, but they don't care about longevity since they get new bikes every season and often within a season.

[@fpeter01]

22:30 This guy wouldn't survive long in the zombie apocalypse.

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

More interesting than the plastic bikes 🚲 😏😏😁

[@simonm1447]

Indeed. Nothing more beautiful than shiny metal

[@floydblandston108]

For many, a Moots will be their first Ti bike, but for most, a 'Seven' will be their last. ; ) (Unless they buy another Seven to add to the herd.) ...and pour one out for Serotta- RIP. : (

[@rivernet62]

Yeah, yeah, great bikes, bla, bla. WHERE CAN I GET THAT “ONE LESS EBIKES” STICKER?!?

[@CyclingSundays]

the cleaning part was a good addition. It shows discipline, hierarchy and ambition. The time waster was her fear of stamping, I disliked that part

[@cleekmaker00]

I have a 1986 Moots Mountaineer. #397. It's 100% Tange Prestige Cro-Moly Steel.

[@vivaparenzo]

Very entertaining video. Not having a head full of facts and numbers after this one. You should always send Manon to factories, except maybe Shimano ones, we don't want to have shortages of bike parts again 😜

[@Joshua-dx7zn]

Thankfully they sent Manon instead of Ollie. Can you imagine Ollie trying to bend those chain stays? Although I think Ollie would have geeked out at the factory.

[@garylitwin7312]

Safety glasses 🥽

[@jacquelinelacan]

2:37 Finnish flag on the background! How on earth did it get there?

[@chercheurun]

Finish department...Finnish flag

[@georgecole2437]

As a proud Moots owner it was great to see inside the plant. My Moots frame is work of art. I will own another!

[@manoz6194]

Moots will be my dream bike one day

[@aaaaaa2206]

_"This is the finish department..."_ Finnish flag on the wall in the background.

[@Nick_CF]

I tell ya, it NEVER gets old watching people learn to punch lol. Camera operator was brave getting in the line of fire lol

[@jamesmoros1274]

The main difference is the Grade and purity of the Titanium.. you can get cheap Asian frames and that’s what you will get 😁 so many cheap frames are available and the main difference is the weight.. The cheap ones are usually 500-800 grams heavier than the very expensive ones. Finally the quality process the expensive ones have are worth the money. Look at so many Internet forums on failing Ti frames, very few are of brands that support a quality product. By 1 bike that will last you a lifetime 🤗

[@rosomak8244]

It is rather silly to buy a bike for a lifetime if you can have several for the same money. You will change over time and what was fitting 20 years ago will most likely not be right for you now.

[@Emtbtoday]

Not much Health and safety going on in there lol bare legs, dogs wandering about people walking in and out how different it is from crazy UK gone mad

[@dennisspors7530]

Most titanium bike frames are made in China under license for known manufacturers. These Chinese companies also make the components and golf club heads. Women do most of the welding. When I was at the factory their welds were amazing.

[@Bryancald]

Such a great business! Old school "MADE IN USA" quality.

[@rgh622]

I liked this one Mannon! You are a great sport and handled that bike building like a champ! I'm going to look into one of those Routt 45 gravel bikes made by Mannon!

[@sommelierofstench]

i hope your wallet is very deep. beautiful bikes though

[@roblucchetti2993]

"Squishing machine" - Thats a technical term folks. Don't get scared 🙂

[@lastname1386]

You should come to Chattanooga iv welded Light speed frames and put them together

[@KenSmith-bv4si]

Retired Boilermaker I've welded everything except titanium and the crack of dawn. OMG did you see how big a "Gas Lens" that welder use's so he can get all that tungsten sticking out the cup, WoW.

[@co7013]

So does this mean Moots is only using straight tubing? No butting? Cool to think my bike was done the same way, just by guys speaking Chinese and probably working a lot faster.

[@grantseltzerrichman2051]

What's with the dogs hanging around heavy manufacturing equipment? Is that safe?

[@TL243]

#noplasticbikes

[@clintwestwood2731]

Right at the point the “presenter” is pulling the pipe bender and really stressing I’m thinking …..women can do what men do?

[@billyblanco8106]

Last time i was here was when they were still in the converted house...and the dogs were everywhere...often with tubes in their mouths...like bones...LOL...

[@Raidersscm]

Nice to see how my bike was made. 2009 Moots YBB. Still going strong.

[@mdjawaideqbal2941]

Can you do a video on beryllium bike? Will it be lighter than carbon fiber? (carbon comes after beryllium on periodic table so i think it will be lighter).

[@deepideepinder967]

It's a moot point but CF bikes are monocoques. Titanium is the best material to make proper triangulated structures unless you go for space frames like the dear old Moulton. There is something elegant about an engineering structure.

[@CarlCzanik1]

I would LOVE to work there....

[@esenel92]

Oof, good thing they didn't send Si, he might have gotten in trouble with the bending part

[@blu0065]

How do the welders deal with that much stickout? run a lot of gas through the GIGANTIC gas lens?

[@theshyguitarist]

I just didn't see the point of having this chick in the video. The guy pretty much just told their story. Nice shorts though. Go exercise girl.

[@108kitsune]

Came back to this video as we're in steamboat for the Hot springs☺️☺️

[@alistersladen1212]

Nice post and Manon's a great presenter, and NO not because she's a girl. Its the enthusiasm and how Manon comes across, keep up the good work. 😊

[@sirvince7853]

I want to speak with the safety manager! No PPE and long hair flapping around machinery.

[@blackjackpinoko]

Moots, why are you selling a Chinese/Taiwanese sourced carbon bike model now?

[@rolfaalto]

I love titanium -- have 3 classic 90s hardtail frames built up as MTBs and monster gravel. My Moots is my 2nd favorite ... Bontrager TiLite is a step above.

[@egotripband]

is every component of bike titanium ? rims , spokes , pedal crank , handlebars , etcetera .