Which bike would you choose? Let us now in the comments 👇🚴
@kippen645 ай бұрын
Used Pinarella for me please.
@lukeBingbong-wv6xk5 ай бұрын
ollie is a cretin.
@tonyBobb52095 ай бұрын
Good content. My only question is, why do you advertise dollars over other currencies? Many if us don't have deep pockets and I personally speak for the majority of the people thank you for getting back on track with you content looking out for the lower earns who want to join the cycling community but sadly do not have the funds, especially due to the cost of living and loss of employment. Thanks GCN.
@thesimracer5 ай бұрын
New Bike. 2nd hand carbon frames will never give peace of mind. Have they been stored correctly, have they been maintained? Did they have a crash and they're about to delaminate?
@LT-rk6fr5 ай бұрын
The used pinarello is a better deal but component availability for that groupset is very limited. Finding a new 5 arm 10 speed ultegra chainring is like searching for gold but it is a wear part so you will eventually need one and if you damaged one of your shifters, derailleurs or brake calipers you would be very likely forced to buy used stuff from ebay.
@buggen8195 ай бұрын
This is the content we want! Not 15k bike tests tbh 🎉
@chuckgliderable5 ай бұрын
Yeah, but also we want GCN's race UI back! On Discovery+, the usability and search function are pants. Ironically, races are not very 'discoverable'
@darylbultitude37865 ай бұрын
Well said!
@NoahStephens5 ай бұрын
The 15k-bike sponsors are what make this kind of content possible
@williamko47515 ай бұрын
@@NoahStephensI don't think so. They can make this kind of contents without big sponsor if they want to. They just make a little bit less money but I think they can make it up with more viewership
@alexwipe5 ай бұрын
The two are not mutually exclusive, you can have both!!
@marccale98905 ай бұрын
Much prefer this kind of "down to earth" content and it's nice to see GCN posting it. I find this far more interesting than the more industry-led content promoting the latest £15k aero bike that most of us would only get marginal benefit from riding.
@RageAZA5 ай бұрын
and also not treating a £5000 bike as "affordable"
@davidadamus1775 ай бұрын
You mean you aren't a multi-millionaire in your 30's? Lol me neither.
@RageAZA5 ай бұрын
@@davidadamus177 ive got an allez elite... it literally cost more than my car. i could barely justify it
@fennec135 ай бұрын
- I know, right ?
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
We love all the high end tech but sometimes it's great to get our hands on bikes like this 🙌 Thanks for the great feedback, we'll keep producing the best videos we can! 🎬
@_MrSnrub5 ай бұрын
Unbiased and unsupported. The video format of the people!
@davidzof5 ай бұрын
is GCN admitting all their other content is advertorial?
@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib5 ай бұрын
@@davidzofAlways has been.
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
The 105 of bike test? 👀
@billkosses38085 ай бұрын
@@gcntechThe Raleigh Tomahawk of bike testing. You helped ruin cycling and now it's coming back for you. 🍆
@noonskinunuАй бұрын
Just so happens the second hand bike comes with brand new Pirelli tyres with chicken strips
@BGS_1235 ай бұрын
A non sponsored GCN is a much better GCN😅
@noonskinunuАй бұрын
Just so happens the second hand bike comes with brand new Pirelli tyres with chicken strips
@kippen645 ай бұрын
Yes please to more of this content!!!
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
We'll see what we can do 👀
@anthonycoluccio60085 ай бұрын
Thanks Ollie for showing how enjoyable biking can be for the entry level rider by comparing bikes. I think sometimes we scare people away by the high end cost of bikes forgetting we once rode those lower tier bikes. Great video
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Hi! thanks for the comment and we're so glad you like the video! 🫶
@neg80984 ай бұрын
Cheap and home build bikes are the best, i have tried a few really expensive ones but Chinese Carbon frames just wins in value and fun for the money.
@alanfreeman79325 ай бұрын
Ollie please carry out upgrades to the boardman and repeat the test, one upgrade at a time to see the difference each individual upgrade will make
@niceracleous99995 ай бұрын
Agree, but also do tyres and a bigger cassette on the pinarello
@DavidMartin-tk4fs5 ай бұрын
Yes , and do the same with Hank's Pug too! 👍👍👍👍👍 eta, put the bits you take off the Boardman on it and compare to this first run. 😅
@ridegarden5 ай бұрын
Please do this at least with tires! It’s the first upgrade and it makes so much difference. I would think the new bike would gain significantly in comfort and speed.
@timtaylor95905 ай бұрын
@@niceracleous9999regreting your Boardman purchase?
@prestachuck28675 ай бұрын
@@niceracleous999928t is the maximum cog that is compatible with the short cage 105 derailleur (of that generation) on that Pinarello. He cannot install a larger cassette unless he also replaces the ss derailleur with a gs (med/long) cage 10-speed derailleur.
@_J.F_5 ай бұрын
Theoretically you should always be getting a better deal for the same amount of money if you buy second hand over brand new. Worth mentioning though is that with second hand bike you can be looking around for ages to find what you want, have to spend quite some money on replacing worn out bits and/or just upgrading to the specs you want, and the second hand bike will usually always show signs of wear, or even damage, and often come without any warranty whatsoever. And lastly, depending on your geographical location, you can end up spending a lot of time and money going around to see these used bikes for real, or of course just hope that it is as shown in photos if you buy online. I personally think that the second hand market probably lends itself more to those who are very experienced with the mechanical aspects of a bike, whereas it could potentially end in tears for the novice first time buyer.
@norebab38183 ай бұрын
💯 on the mark, if new to cycling, buy in store, get a good fit. Once more experienced with maintenance - then go browsing the second hand market.
@carlangelo6533 ай бұрын
it's always gonna be a better deal to go used, it just comes with the extra caveat that you have to be really diligent with your research, and you have to check for issues.
@bjornlangoren30022 ай бұрын
@@norebab3818Or have a good friend with the skills that will help out with unbiased advice buying a second hand bike. Problem is that most advice givers will advocate more for what they like, not what the buyer needs, but that can be said fir many bike store salesmen as well.
@PRH1232 ай бұрын
No way you can find an Ultegra carbon pinarelo for 500 pounds, unless it was stolen. Have combed the internet for weeks and never seen anything remotely similar.
@_J.F_2 ай бұрын
@@PRH123 Who says you can?
@stevenwilson871828 күн бұрын
I just found an incredible road bike at a garage sale for $200. Its an S-works, fully carbon fiber and all Dura Ace components. 10 years old now but still brand new. Man was a pro cyclists (not elite) and won a race that was sponsored by specialized when trying to make the Olympic team before he retired. He didn't make the team but got this bike and never rode it. I remember looking at these bikes in the bike shop windows thinking id never own one. I know its outdated but it was a 10k dollar bike when it was new.
@vishwasmattur20274 ай бұрын
I've bought 3 used bikes now Cannondale CAAD8 for $160, Specialized Crosstrail for $100, Cannondale CAAD10 for $150 I got 3 awesome bikes for the price of one entry level new bike. There are great deals out there!
@davidrojas4687Ай бұрын
What a steal! I wish more people in my country would have top notch bikes that devalued
@Lolwutfordawin5 ай бұрын
I am very impressed just how close these 2 bikes were in terms of speed. Was expecting the used bike to be a lot better at that price, just goes to show how much bike tech has advanced lately!
@ivordavies18285 ай бұрын
I recently bought a 2016 Wilier Cento 1 SR with Campy 11speed and Zonda wheels with Conti 5000's for £600 (I went to his house and he had the original reciept) It may have rim brakes but to me it is a brilliant bike. Nothing new came close.
@williamko47515 ай бұрын
What's wrong with rim brake. Consider yourself lucky you don't have to deal with the rubbing noise
@DaveCM5 ай бұрын
Rim brakes are fine the majority of the time.
@williamko47515 ай бұрын
@@DaveCM if you don't ride in the rain, and don't go downhill 70 kph, rim brake is all you need. Please don't fall for marketing.
@frodo58825 ай бұрын
Are bikes in the UK really so much cheaper? What you are describing would easily sell above 1200€ in Germany. Also the bike from the video would be worth more like 800€.
@ivordavies18285 ай бұрын
@@frodo5882 I do believe I got a good deal but I have seen similiar bargains before. I think the time of year makes a big difference too.
@supercoder75 ай бұрын
My favourite GCN content is the non sponsored one! With the quality of presenters, and the entire crew, it's always top tier content. Would definitely love to see more of it. I end up skipping all sponsored content anyways.
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Hi! thanks for the comment. What type of videos would you like to see us make more of? thanks!
@supercoder75 ай бұрын
Some bike packing tech content would be great! Especially the impact of different equipment choices like bikepacking bags, racks etc on flat roads, climbing performance and downhill. Do aero bags actually work? Do bags swaying lose significant wattage? Also would be nice to see the impact road and gravel vibrations have on performance and how much of energy is lost because of that, and how much compliance of different equipment choices or different tech helps with that. And a deep dive and pros and cons of different bottom bracket tech!
@HansDoppelhans2 ай бұрын
@@gcntech : Non-sponsored ones I think the bloke said, mate.
@noonskinunuАй бұрын
Just so happens the second hand bike comes with brand new Pirelli tyres with chicken strips
@xosece5 ай бұрын
these not sponsored videos turn out to be really good. I'd love to see more videos of bikes like hybrid bikes (Canyon Roadlite 6 2023) and so on, something different
@noonskinunuАй бұрын
Just so happens the second hand bike comes with brand new Pirelli tyres with chicken strips
@GeirEivindMork5 ай бұрын
Used - if you know what you are looking for and the value - is always better. BUT if you're new into the game and doesn't have anyone to lean on, far safer to go for a new one. the cost of just basic maintance is going to make the old one very expensive fast if it isn't been properly taken care of. Unless you do it yourself. But one of my bikes, a storck I bought for $700. It was intended to be on the trainer 24h, but I've not had the wish to do that yet, because it's been such a wonderful bike to ride. So quick, nippy and fast. And I got a $6000 bike. I mean, bikes lose their value far faster than they lose their usefulness.
@tonyBobb52095 ай бұрын
Great to hear your advice and points you've shared. I'm two years into the cycling community. I purchased a second hand specialized allez 2017 that had done less than 5 miles. It cost me £200! After cycling 10 miles I knew this was the sport for me. I went down to my local bike shop knew I wanted to purchase a new bike and after months of research I personally found Orbea was the best value for money as I paid £5,500 for a customer build bike along with Etap Sram. This would have cost me over £8,000 but due to the fall of sales for new high spec bikes during the pandemic they (Orbea) had deals on with massive savings. I can say I won't be purchasing a high spec bike anytime soon and happy with my purchase. My partner now wants a ring for putting up with my purchase along with washing my cycling clothing 😅
@KarlosEPM5 ай бұрын
I completely second the OP. Nowadays, 10 year old bikes are already quite complex and the tools and materials, nevermind the knowledge and skills, can get crazy expensive- more than a new bike. I would advice to get a good NEW basic bike, and if you like the sport and especially the mechanics of the machines, go for an older high end model as a second bike.
@GeirEivindMork5 ай бұрын
@@tonyBobb5209 Allez is a great beginner bike, but once you've tried sram etap or shimano di2, you are a bit hooked. And while bike trends might change, you wouldn't want to change that orbea out on many many years. sram etap is awesome, and Orbea is well regarded as well. Check if your spouse doesn't want a chainring instead - It's nice with company. :)
@fredsirvalo19045 ай бұрын
I recently purchased a used bike. I looked around at the private sale market, but ended up purchasing through my favorite local bike shop. I know I paid a bit of a premium for the used bike (about $200 above a similar bike on FB Marketplace), but the peace of mind knowing it was mechanically solid and had no surprises was well worth it. My LBS backs up their used bikes with the same return/exchange/repair policies as their new bikes.
@GeirEivindMork5 ай бұрын
@@fredsirvalo1904 On a bike you have the chain, the cassette, the cogs, the crank bearing, the headset bearing and the wheel bearings that all wear out eventually. So if just one of those were worn out, that would be the difference of that $200 given the part cost and work involved. Great to support your local LBS and a safe bet. I mean, even I who knows bikes managed to buy a used one where I noticed the braking surface on the wheels was concave the first time I took it for a real ride. Didn't even consider checking that when I bought it or I'd haggled the price down further.
@xfg0075 ай бұрын
Used Pinarello for me
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
There are some great second hand bargains out there! Have you ever got yourself a used bike?
@davidadamus1775 ай бұрын
@@gcntech Got a used fixie, Kilo tt. Still going strong 3,000 + miles later! #steelisreal
@fishmanfairclough75305 ай бұрын
Yep second hand cannondale topstone tiagra £500 best bike ever owned just cautious in regards to theft but used for daily commute and holding up to a quite abusive commuting route.
@sebastian-FX357Z15 ай бұрын
It use to be mortgage time in order to acquire a pinarello, £500 for a use pina, who would have thought u could just get it for £500.
@SuneBerlin5 ай бұрын
Sorry guys but this is so 2000...on the mainland, called Europe! Then thing you have to mention are the costs for the parts. If you ride a little so 5000km a year blade and two pairs of breaks, and new tyres
@TimR1235 ай бұрын
GCN Bingo 😂. Love it Tire size is the unfortunate break point. If you’re happy with 28mm or smaller, there are so many GREAT older bikes at reasonable prices. But if you see 28mm as the minimum there are few options. I’ve got several older road bikes that I love. Some have modernized components for modern gear ratios too. But to run 32mm tires, I had to add a newer one to the stable. No other option. But I still ride the older ones. They’re still winners and would be a great value to buy today. Another vote that most rim brakes (this century) on aluminum rims are more than adequate. Good disk brakes are better but unnecessary for anyone but Clydesdales in the mountains. But for entry riders, the “bang for the buck” new bike is a fine choice. Lower risk. Fewer decisions. Just learn to ride and enjoy. Play on the next one.
@jipasd5 ай бұрын
I have zero experience with road bikes, but I think the lessons learned in MTB apply: when buying a used bike, you really need to know what you're getting. When buying something on a budget, it can even come down to worn chain/drivetrain, replace that and suddenly you could have spent a minimum of hundred euros on another bike. I also think that, as he said on the video, the new cheap brakes and groupsets work just fine, in this case the old one was in fact OLD, but I've fallen to the nostalgy trap in thinking some old - albeit at the time premium - junk would be superior to new stuff you can buy much cheaper.
@draggonhedd5 ай бұрын
Love the budget conscious stuff! Would love to see a small series about best bang for buck upgrades on the boardman. Faster tires and TPU tubes,, drivetrain upgrades, weight savings, budget carbon bars, etc.
@johnhutto715 ай бұрын
This nicely highlights the difference in bikes from today versus ten years ago. It's definitely NOT all about rim brakes versus discs or electronic shifting versus mechanical. I finally sold my 2011 Cervelo R3 because I couldn't fit tires wider than 25mm and the gear range was too narrow. I loved its ride quality and simplicity. However being able to run wider tires and gearing on my current bike is irreplaceable. 32mm tires have been so much more comfortable and grippy and the wider gearing range has completely opened up how and where I ride. I think disc brakes are a wash compared to rim brakes. The feel is slightly different but I think rim brakes on alloy rims work just as well as discs if they're maintained properly. However being able to use carbon rims because of disc brakes is a huge improvement. They're much more comfortable and durable.
@thomasparmenter1285 ай бұрын
Great content! Owned that same Boardman model for 5 years now and done everything I’ve needed it to, from long rides to racing triathlons on it.
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@jayare84245 ай бұрын
THOSE REFLECTORS ADD 300 GRAMS 👀👀🤣🤣🤣👌👌👌😂😂😂😂
@durianriders5 ай бұрын
2 rim brake road bikes on a GCN vid in 2024.... Good work lads!
@-P-Z-5 ай бұрын
I was kind of guessing this to be the outcome. But having someone ride both bikes and compare the times and likely factors is great. Thanks
@angusmmuir5 ай бұрын
6:24 I had a little chuckle at the comment about taking rim brakes into the mountains. Reflecting on how until very recently that wouldn’t even have been a consideration. 🤣
@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib5 ай бұрын
Used bike no doubt. Modern bikes, especially disc brake road bikes are extremely heavy, compared to rim brake bikes. Dollar for dollar, older rim brake bikes are way lighter.
@paulblichmann27915 ай бұрын
in theory rim brakes can overheat your tire and cause a blowout. I'd be interested if that has happened once in the history of EVER.
@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib5 ай бұрын
@@paulblichmann2791 I would estimate absolutely never. You'd probably have to be going 100 plus mph. Lol
@ZoomStranger4 ай бұрын
Doubt it. I have severely overheated my rim brakes down hill at over 80kph according to Strava and they were squealing fit to wake the dead - and stopped being effective but blowing the tyres would be bullshit. @@paulblichmann2791
@goku4452 ай бұрын
After trying disc brakes I wouldn't want to go to rim brakes, ever. It is for me mandatory on a new bike.
@claytonnixon34275 ай бұрын
Great video! Not sure Ill ever get used to hearing " Kings pounds though" So used to Queen.
@dominicchesterman21075 ай бұрын
I have an older Boardman road bike of similar spec to this one. I gave up riding it because our roads are so bad until I managed to get some 30mml wide tyres on it, wow what an improvement.
@mrmatthewking5 ай бұрын
"This isn't a sponsored video ... which means I can impartially tell you ... what's good AND bad about them" - the direct implication is that you DON'T review other bikes honestly. I get that your channel is more infotainment than hard hitting journalism, but that quote feels like an own-goal.
@jocap38375 ай бұрын
Orbea Orca Pinarello Dogma 🤣😭
@ZoomStranger4 ай бұрын
I think you are trying a bit too hard here Kingie. Have a nice cuppa tea and relax a bit mate.
@steffilomi932819 күн бұрын
Nobody can buy a second hand Pinarello for 500 £ here in Germany. I would estimate you must at least spend around 2000 €. Astonishing the differences between markets.
@rhysdoyle65895 ай бұрын
Great content! I have a Pinarello Uno that I bought 2.5 years ago off a family friend to get into cycling and triathlon. I still ride it as my main training bike and love it! I keep it serviced and maintained by the local bike shop and it runs like a dream. Hopefully many more seasons on that bike :)
@adamweb5 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Ollie left the reflectors on the Boardman, that's at least an extra 100 grams! 😂
@Obsrvr861185 ай бұрын
I have been asking for this video in the past 2 years. Finally. Thanks GCN
@simiewimie5 ай бұрын
I was looking for a winter bike and picked up that same model Pinarello just hours after your first video about it in late 22. I upgraded the group set to Ultegra 6800, fitted some Campagnolo wheels, and put some narrower bars on it and love it. Great bike for the money and great video. 👍🏼
@jamesbranston50985 ай бұрын
Nice little down to earth comparison Ollie. Nice to see an Old Savillian providing some interesting you tube content. More of this kind of stuff please .
@n22pdf5 ай бұрын
Awesome.. this type of content is excellent and will get loads of new subs guys please continue these are brilliant guys 😊 well done🚴🏻👍 Pete
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much 😀
@BrianRPaterson5 ай бұрын
Excellent. More please! Cheers
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Will do! What should we film next?
@BrianRPaterson5 ай бұрын
@@gcntech Personally, I would really enjoy a video on the black art of mixing MTB and Road components when building up a gravel bike. For example, differences in bar diameters mean I can't fit my Shimano XT shifters on a road bar. Which makes running an inexpensive but reliable Deore 11-speed 1X drive train a bit of a faff. That's a shame, because the 11-51 cassette would be great for bikepacking. The flat-mount and post-mount fittings on frames also complicate matters. For example, I have a Cannondale SLATE that I wanted to convert to a flat-bar gravel bike. using post-mount Shimano Deore 4-pot MTB brakes I have in my bike cave. But that frame only takes flat mount. Since gravel very much straddles the road and MTB worlds, some insight and understanding on what you can do with a bit of fiddling, or should really steer clear of, would be massively useful. I'm sure some good tips and tricks and clever equipment choices would make a good video, or series of videos. Love you. Bye!
@chrisbardell5 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this vid, very relatable to people who can’t throw down big money. I’ve had a Ridgeback hybrid (fully kitted out with mudguards, carrier etc) for 18yrs and love it and will keep it forever. Recently bagged a 2015 GT Grade (alloy, Claris) for under £100 on eBay. Yep not a true road bike but works very well for the scabby/potholed country backroads I ride. Dodgy back, so didn’t know if I could even ride drops and didn’t want to sink serious $$$ into an experiment. Ended up with a bike that is comfortable and huge fun. Think I got lucky with the price, although it was a couple of hours drive to pick it up. First sportive booked…
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
This is what we love to hear! Enjoy that first sportive 👍
@bonbonflippers42985 ай бұрын
Yes! Content we average normal people like to watch. Keep these content coming! Lets try to get a video about old school geometry vs modern cheap bike geometry and does it make a difference !
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
We'll keep it coming if you guys keep commenting 🙌 Sounds like a great video idea!
@RavageFR5 ай бұрын
I bought 2 years ago a third hand Bianchi Intenso, with mechanical Ultegra 2x11s, rim brakes and a full carbon frame + fork for only 1100€ ! Few weeks ago, I bought a new pair of Fulcrum Racing 3, chainrings and new cassette, now this is a complete bike which weights only 7.5kg
@bungg13375 ай бұрын
Im a beginner. I started cycling few months ago. I got a triban rc500. I like it so far. I don't feel i need a upgrade for now. Im still very happy with the bike❤
@SenselessUsername3 ай бұрын
If you're improving your lap times by upgrading your bike instead of actually cycling harder, what's the point? So yeah, stick with what's reliable unless you want to compete.
@thecrazysarecomin2 ай бұрын
Months? I am still riding 4 times a week on the bike I bought 22 years ago! Just keep adding parts as parts wear out, new wheels a few months back and new saddle today, apart from the actual frame everything has been changed more than once, bike of Theseus it is 😁
@spkroadbikes5 ай бұрын
Please carry on with that type of content ❤️
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
We would love to do more content like this 🙌What other videos should be make?
@spkroadbikes5 ай бұрын
@@gcntech what about 1000$ bike used from eBay Vs new 1000$ bike from the dealership
@darrenm44175 ай бұрын
More content like this. Somewhat approachable
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
We're always keen to hear new ideas, what would you like to see?
@MrPharmageek5 ай бұрын
Hot take, that boardman looks great compared to the older pinarello onda design.
@kakarot24305 ай бұрын
This is my kind of bike, I really want to know, how much the difference with Super Bike, if we upgrade it to the max ( tire, inner tube, wheels , etc )
@MiguelAugusto19825 ай бұрын
+1
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Should we put up against one of our dream bikes? 💨
@MiguelAugusto19825 ай бұрын
@@gcntech if you upgrade it properly!!! (meaning... all but the frame and fork... ) ;)
@MiguelAugusto19825 ай бұрын
would be very interesting to know the price of all the upgrades also 😉😁
@phillipmoore62495 ай бұрын
Rim for road, Disc for dirt
@djdelprado5 ай бұрын
always glad to like and support you guys! kudos!
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Thanks! We appreciate the support 🙌
@RZaichkowski22 күн бұрын
Fully agree on getting a used bike. Got a 1999 LeMond Tourmalet from a former co-worker for $500 CAD back in 2013 and upgraded the groupset in 2020 to a Shimano 105 11-speed which runs great. Even with the groupset upgrade, it was a lot cheaper than getting a brand new road bike with a 105 and the older chromoly steel frame still turns heads to this day.
@mitchreeves14 ай бұрын
From experience, and this isn't just with bicycles, but many other used items from cars to furniture, i can hand in heart say that some of the best purchases ive ever made in my life are from used items, and some of my worst is from used as well 😂 New is lovely, but when it comes to bicycles, i like to upgrade them here and there. So for me its why by new when I'm going to swap loads of stuff over? When i buy used, the previous owner has usually taken care of their bike very well and sometimes they've even carried out the mods i would have done too! I love it when this happens! Its just a case of a quick service, brake pad and hydraulic oil change and away i go. Although i can appreciate why people would like to buy new, i havent seen any major mechanical enhancements on bikes in around 15 years. A 10 year old bike is surprisingly up to date, and it leaves you room to put the upgrades you want on and make the bike your own. Plus thieves dont think twice about stealing the thing as there's so many newer and much more expensive bikes parked arpund your sleeper bike 😉 Just buy what you know will make you happy. We need people to buy new bikes so that to put more bikes on the tarmac/trails, and we need used buyers to keep the old bikes alive for as long as possible.
@tompenfold59625 ай бұрын
I still have nightmares about that headtube that was on the pinarello
@SirBrass20 күн бұрын
I bought a mid 90s semi-carbon frame road bike for $125 because its Shimano RSX shifters were gummed up. Spent $260 in bike repairs (new shifters, bottom bracket, and bike mechanic labor fees). I'm at less than $500 into it, and it cost $1k in 1996, so about $2000 in today's money. It rides great with a half decent saddle. So, I essentially paid about a quarter of what it cost new (accounting for inflation), and way less than a budget road bike costs. Win.
@ercmaddenАй бұрын
The decision here comes down to if you’re confident/have the knowledge of what to look for (or avoid) in a used bike
@PCXMODSGR5 ай бұрын
I am still racing my Pinarello Fp team Sky edition from 2013, which is similar to the one in the video and i have to say that i am running a 26 mm Pirelli rear tyre and the clearance is more than enough ! i can go bigger ! The only negative about this particular frame is the messed up geometry ! For example a 53 size bike its actually a 60 in normal terms ! That of course is only for this model and not the Pinarrello line of bikes ! If you find it out there its a perfect candidate for a pretty good road bike on the budget ! Better than buying the chinese knock off of the brand !
@leonardhpls65 ай бұрын
You keep riding your 11 year old relic 😂
@PCXMODSGR5 ай бұрын
@@leonardhpls6 I bet you want one but..... !
@williamsmith14535 ай бұрын
This is a great informative video. Thank you! Love to see this kind of video because it helps me understand the limits and reach of what kinds of bikes and components I my range. Please do more old, new comparison not only with bikes, but components too. It really help to makes sensible decisions on the best way to upgrade ot just make the bike comfortable. For example, I did buy a used Salsa Journeyman gravel bike and for me fits perfect and is very comfortable. I am in the process of up graded components from claris to tiagra. This save me in the long run about 500 dollars and will last years to come. Moreover the claris is going on a 20 dollar bike frame I found on the market place for a fun ride retro bike. With that said, I still love to see the super bike and component comparison for the geek factor and dreams.
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Hi! thanks for the comment and the video ideas. We'll see what we can do!
@youtubechangemynamewhy5 ай бұрын
This is no brainer, old bike is always worth the money
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Looks cool too 😎
@allanfoster69655 ай бұрын
Format of the people! Realistic costs on real bikes that real people buy and ride! Top work, guys!
@454k30Ай бұрын
For me, the used market just didn’t pan out for £450. Loads for sale, but almost none of them were an appropriate frame size for me. Purchasing the new bike allowed me to get one that fit correctly. Thanks for the tips on the tires.
@f1acha5 ай бұрын
Those aero wellies. All I can see is Dash from The Incredibles on a road bike :)
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Dash was a cool guy!
@gavin187875 ай бұрын
"what ever bike you are on the view is the same" This is the take away advice for people I would take a nice sunny day and a nice route on my cheap winter bike then an average route on my posh summer bike.
@leonardhpls65 ай бұрын
😂what's your posh bike
@gavin187875 ай бұрын
@@leonardhpls6 nothing that posh compared to most on here but posher then a mud covered boardman I usually knock around on :-)
@louisgordon43885 ай бұрын
Used every day, I paid £250 for a Cube Peloton SL with a carbon fork, sub 9kg weight and 105 everything except Ultegra dérailleurs, it even had the original tyres still. Road bike values drop like the stone the second they leave the showroom, it's very hard to justify buying new.
@jazzcatjohn5 ай бұрын
Love this content! I still ride a rim brake ti frame with Sram Force mech groupset and love it.
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Rim brakes are not a dirty word - Do you think you'll ever jump over to disc brakes?
@jazzcatjohn5 ай бұрын
@@gcntech Only if/when I "need" a new bike. It's too expensive to try to keep up with the Jones' so I'm riding what I have, which is perfectly acceptable.
@Big_Island_Boi4 ай бұрын
As someone who has owned nearly 500 bikes--mostly high end carbon road bikes--and currently owns about 40 of them--again, mostly high-end road bikes--I'd take a good, used, high end road bike over a new, entry level bike ANY day of the week... and twice on Sundays. I see 8 to 10 yr old Specialized S-Works Tarmacs, Rubys and Roubaixs for sale right now for $1000-ish... and those bikes were $8000+ new. CRAZY light... full DURA ACE... with carbon wheels. Ride up and down a canyon on one of those... then on a new $500 bike... and there is simply no comparison.
@savagepro90605 ай бұрын
2:29 back in 2010 it would have retailed around 2000 Queen's English Pounds
@nemure5 ай бұрын
One minor caviar, a second hand bike has no set price, 500 bucks can give you best bike ever or crap depending on how lucky you are and how much seller needs
@wuzihuzi5 ай бұрын
My used giant propel from 2015 has cost me a similar orice to build up and its all i need!
@brettgoodwin60525 ай бұрын
Pinarello and pirelli who sponsor your channel with bikes and tyres, was faster?! 😂😂 What a surprise
@steve245504 ай бұрын
Yes ! ... more of this. I'm convinced that higher spec second-hand bikes offer great value, but there is almost too much choice.
@andras.895 ай бұрын
Here for the 500-2000$ range contents! Please deep dive as we average Joe's don't ride 5-10k bikes
@fennec135 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure your money will go further on fa second hand bike - BUT - you have to know what you're looking for and what you are getting or not. I'd recommend a inexpensive simple bike for a beginner, but if you know what you are looking for, second hand stuff (like frames of whole bikes) can be pretty great deals.
@jasonp32533 ай бұрын
My first car was $250 US. My first bike was $1100, about three years before my car.
@DavidMartin-tk4fs5 ай бұрын
Hah thats cool, the Pinerello has the wheels I just upgraded from (got RS30's now after eating a pot hole at new year) and the 105 version of the Ultegra groupset I've got *and* the Pinny has no power meter. Finally a Vs video where my bike would be a genuine contender. ❤ Really liking this new season of videos, getting out from under discovery seems to be allowing a bit more creative freedom and bringing back more of an entusiasts' element. Great work, keep it up!
@colorona84565 ай бұрын
@gcntech Love your music choices on this video (especially at 10:10) - really a step up to previous ones! Feels just that bit more produced, which makes it more likely to watch the whole thing (at least for me).
@cyclonutterd70755 ай бұрын
You could've taken the silly reflectors off the Boardman Ollie 😂
@edwardjednacz16415 ай бұрын
That GCN tests all levels of bikes is important. One can see the diminishing increase of performance as the cost goes up. This information helps to determine the best bike to buy for your budget.
@georgetennant6065 ай бұрын
It was the reflectors that slowed the boardman down.
@2389495 ай бұрын
Love these type of videos, full of content and seeing Ollie just happy on a bike 🥰🥰
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
More to come! Glad you like it!
@2389495 ай бұрын
@@gcntech loved it 🤩🤩
@Maartenluypaert4 ай бұрын
Recently bought a Cannondale synapse from 2015 for 800 euros. I like these older quality bikes more than these new mediocre bikes. So happy with my synapse!
@uguryildirim20182 ай бұрын
Been following you guys for god knows how long and this kind of content just hits the spot.
@mdnasrulloh2 ай бұрын
Every weekend i still enjoy to ride my 14kg roadbike😅
@voltgan5 ай бұрын
Great video Reflectors on both bikes next time 😊
@claysmith8942 ай бұрын
Just built a domane al2 rim brake with 105 components for under 500 including the frame. Fits 30s and weighs under 20lbs. Fits 30mm tires and could probably go 32. If you shop deals for 2nd hand parts and sales for consumables you can build a highly capable bike on a meager budget
@MakoTheFrog3 ай бұрын
i'm a new cyclist training for ironman, never seriously cycled before but have ridden road bikes and own an old steel frame commute workhorse, i decided to do exactly this, i managed to find a absolutely smashing deal on ebay for a fully carbon bike with an ultegra groupset (i didn't know what that was when i bought it) last xmas, got it for a whopping £320, it has a few dings and scratches but other than that is perfect! weighs just under 8kg too. for someone like me and my riding goals i think it's perfect, you wouldn't go buy your first car from a sports car showroom, so why do it with a bike. 4 months of intense training in and gotta say i nailed it, super happy with it.
@rudolphpyatt48335 ай бұрын
You made a vitally important point here: Rim brakes perform well on alloy rims. All the problems people cite with rim brakes are due to carbon fiber rims. And given the availability of rim brakes that permit wide tires, the notion that you “must” have disc brakes to get wider tires is also false. Bottom line: Across the entire population of cyclists, riding the Alps on carbon fiber wheels regularly is an edge case scenario. Probably 90 percent of what most riders do can be handled by either bike in this video.
@grumpychops81135 ай бұрын
Love this content. Used also has the environmental element too.. I think it'd be really interesting to see this with a 3 year old second hand one. Thanks Ollie. PS.. love the high drone shot with the pigeons bursting out of the tree.👍
@homersadiarin92995 ай бұрын
The boardman looks nice and more comfortable so i'm going with that if ever.
@travelinalaskan5 ай бұрын
Fun video. I went with used. I was able to get an almost unused 2014 Cannondale Synapse disc 5 105 for $450.00 USD and I am really happy with it! It is such a comfortable ride! At this moment or I will probably go the same route when it comes time to get a gravel bike or something to turn into a gravel bike.
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Awesome! When you know what you're looking for you can find some great bikes 👌 What tips would you offer to someone looking to get a second hand bike?
@travelinalaskan5 ай бұрын
I have really enjoyed some of the Cannondale line. Cannondale synapse, Cannondale CAAD 8, and Cannondale CAAD 10. They are very comfortable and fast riding bikes, but they have the same problems with older tech. Mainly being wheel and tire size.
@michaelcrawford56385 ай бұрын
I’ll have the one with “Pinarello” written on it. Worth at least 30 watts. Ta.
@challacustica90495 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting out some content us mortals can afford. Helpful.
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
We all about making content for everyone 🙌Great to hear you enjoyed the video, would you like to see more of this in the future?
@challacustica90495 ай бұрын
@@gcntechYes please!
@dtsybulskyi5 ай бұрын
Thanks Ollie for mentioning the gearing on Pinarello being 34-28 and it being hard on ascents. Being 194cm and living in Japan, my bicycle selection was severely limited and I ended up buying a 7 speed 28/14 freewheel bike with 52/42 chainrings, and I really struggle with climbs over 10% even on 42-28. So hearing you struggle with 34-28 really made me think that I should change the chainrings or grow a pair of bodybuilder-worthy quads 😂
@ddj20104 ай бұрын
2 weeks too late but super happy with my C$500/US$400 20 yo ultegra giant ocr1. Future upgrade videos would be fab!
@danielhabiger75125 ай бұрын
buying a old cinelli gravel bike next week made out of steel, so much better than todays new bikes...
@EMSEDUk8r5 ай бұрын
Well Done Ollie-GCN! Cheers! This is why I love this channel - it’s for every riding enthusiast! I recently restored an older bike & was able to put the prized components that I wanted for a price that was less than the actual modern bike that I would buy today. Great insights, Ollie, on modern developments such as tire clearance, full carbon, and disc vs rim. Quite possibly one of the most perfectly balanced cycling videos from GCN! Please continue to make these splendid videos for every-rider, not just racers. (Okay, those are cool too! But this vid hit home for this bike aficionado!) Cheers! 🚴🏽 🚴🏽 🚴🏽
@davidhartin82155 ай бұрын
I recently watched Dr Bridgewood go up El Tiede in a previous life on standard gearing. It's interesting how everyone is very happy now with a compact on the front and big cassette on the back. I've still got a Pinarello FP2 as my usual workhorse bike with a compact on the front and 11-28 10spd 105 on the back and it's fine for most things but I did Tiede on a hire bike with a compact and 11-34 12spd 105 Di2 a couple of weeks back and I don't think I'd have made it up with my usual gearing. Good to see over 10 year old Pinas still going stong and on rim brakes!
@Dreamweaver945 ай бұрын
Awesome video, I expected the Pinarello to spank the new bike, but not that badly!
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
Hahahah would you choose the Pinarello? It's not all about pace, you've got to choose the bike that fits you 🙌
@lexington4765 ай бұрын
Yep, my road racing rigs all had rim brakes on alloy wheels up until last year for me. They work just fine if everything is clean. I upgraded to a new to me SL6 with thru-axle and disc brakes, have not raced it yet.
@PRH1235 ай бұрын
I like his intro, he straight up says that they can't be free in their opinions with the bikes they usually review.
@crankshoptv81415 ай бұрын
Used will often yield a better bike. Take a chain checker with you, a new chain and cassette is going to set you back about £100 and is an easy starting point to barter. Tyres are also a good thing to check because a pair of good tyres is also £100.
@edcoad49305 ай бұрын
Subscribed because you're a legend, Ollie.
@gcntech5 ай бұрын
awww thanks!
@pouriamaleki51135 ай бұрын
3:53 The guy next to the home is like I wish I was riding 😢