What tech caught your eye? Let us know in the comments 💬
@Alfadrottning86Ай бұрын
just on the last chainring .. you said what? doing 2500 watts? Do riders actually do that much? Considering i (a normal person) barely does 300 watts peak .. . edit: did an online calculation - with my bike (my non e-bike .. a dutch bike weighing what feels like about 15-18kg) and my own weight .. i would go 75kph at 2500 watts ... in my environment (sea level, flat, asphalt - no wind or elevation). i would predict my bike desintegrating past 40 kph though, like literally falling apart. It already rattles dangerously at 20 kph. A professional might weigh more than i do .. but they have much, much better gear .. so i expect a professional with top end gear to have to cycle 80-85 kph at 2500 watts. While probably not unheard of .. it still feels very high. Uh, come to think of that ... what IS the top speed of highspeed cyclists anyway .. is it around 90 kph?
@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
So no road CUES this year either? Okey Dokey👍
@chriseaton4486Ай бұрын
Where do we sign up for the new KZbin GCN membership?
@owenchase4017Ай бұрын
I am using the Ltwoo 2x7 shifters on my favorite road bike and they are working well.
@birdingsualk9865Ай бұрын
Using the wheeltop groupset on my own for about 1,5 months now...After 530km i can not say anything negative about it. I'm loving it. Using it as a 9speed groupset
@Burkhard_EhnesАй бұрын
folks at GCN: Take these 3 reports by Alex from Eurobike as benchmarks. Don't go back from this! They were outstanding. By far superior to everything I ever watched. No idea who the selection of content happens. Having been on EB that selection seems to be very appropriate. Very well appreciated I in particular as well the density of content - no clutter - no diversion, still convenient to follow. Congrats!
@ChinaCyclingАй бұрын
Some good brands / products in there... kudos for going off the beaten path. ;)
@gcntechАй бұрын
We loved soaking up some of the less common bits of bike tech 🙌 Did we miss anything?
@LimitedWardАй бұрын
Technically you could argue those bamboo bikes are carbon fiber 🤔
@PeterSmithCAАй бұрын
Am running the LTwoo eGR on my gravel bike. So far one slight issue, but that was mostly on me. I had a chain drop (from not cutting it short enough) behind the cassette, binding things, and when I did the derailleur seemed to not work correctly any more. But I just held the button on it and it factory reset, and worked flawlessly since. The ability to micro adjust each gear with the app is fantastic. Did it on a recent ride when 5th and 6th were "clicking" - also can connect to your head unit, tho battery always reports as critical on my Edge 530.
@bqvidiqАй бұрын
That 100t chainring would be perfect on my climbing bike's cassette
@Chris-jc3lrАй бұрын
Only really for when I am doing zone 2
@SteevyTableАй бұрын
I bet if you paired that 100T chainring to Seth's 74T cog it would almost feel like a normal gear.
@stevemyrick5738Ай бұрын
The finish on the Korean wheel set that Alex marveled at is Mother of Pearl created by a Korean artist and representing a Korean art form.
@alanfreeman7932Ай бұрын
Somebody watched Hambini
@cb6866Ай бұрын
Thanks Alex and crew...love Titanium 3-D printed ....anything , too !
@LoscoeLadАй бұрын
finally, GCN get into Hall 9 and the Chinese brands! Ltwoo, titanium frames, decent hubs and cheap power meters.. great stuff Always makes me laugh how impressed Alex is by bling, too! ooh, special anodising!
@babybopkidsrock5713Ай бұрын
As a badminton player who cycles those titanium frames with that shuttlecock gives me the fizz
@gcntechАй бұрын
Alex has been known to have that effect 👀
@OlegsKopАй бұрын
I have Wheeltop EDS groupset. It work great. What is even better is price - got it for 640euro! For me, solution with 1 buton for front derauleur is great, as there is twoo gers in the front you push the same button to change one of gears to other. Regarding shifting speed, you can switch in app to ''racing mode'' and gears going to shift much faster. As i understand, it's made for battery economy. Have this group for 5 month and used to charge it only once after made some thousands km. This is my first electronic group and i am very happy to have it.
@shaung1719Ай бұрын
Yep not dealing with internal frame battery packs is a godsend , so is avoiding sram pricing. Alex was right about chainring speed though, even in sport mode its slower than Di2.
@karaokekongeАй бұрын
I know! I knooow!!! ..GCN haven't got the budget for it, but.. I'd love to see a bike build, with all of those 'unknown' parts, and see how it performs. And if possible..Make it beautiful
@TimR123Ай бұрын
Nice video on the 'second tier' products at the show. Well paced and good images to really see them. You asked if any of us have used these products yet. I put the LTWOO eGR group on my gravel bike two months ago. As you point out, it can support 10-12 speed setups for compatibility with the rest of the drive train which is great if you've already got two wheels with cassettes, cranks etc in wide range 11s and hate to spend on replacing that. In my case it was to replace a mechanical Force 1 that was modded to support a 11-50 cassette. The LTWOO only specifies to 46t but it is running well on my 50t. Setup was simple and relatively no fuss. (some wire routing creativity needed but that was due to my frame not the groupset). Shifting is crisp and precise. I don't have enough time yet to say anything about reliability. And while I've washed the bike with a hose without incident but I haven't had rain here yet (there were early reports with the road version about water ingress). My only real complaint is that both shifters have identical paddles but the only thing you can do with them is decide whether to shift on the left OR right side. No ability to use both in combination etc. LTWOO support told me they are considering options in an update but nothing yet. (I'd love to see an option to use them up/down L/R like AXS paddles)
@michaelfisher9760Ай бұрын
I loved that video! Anything to do with beautiful engineering is like catnip to me.
@gcntechАй бұрын
Join the queue 🙌
@andreemurray7039Ай бұрын
L2 will soon be a brand that will take on the big 3 with price and the shifting
@wtfiswiththosehandlesАй бұрын
Yeah, might be. I have their R9 groupset and honestly, the feel of shifting is on par with 105, but R9's hoods, levers - feel so much better to me.
@gcntechАй бұрын
They are certainly holding there own 🙌
@space.youtubeАй бұрын
It's odd that the L-Twoo's ability to be used on 10,11,12 speed setups impressed you so much, but the Wheeltop that can be used on 3 to 14 speed systems (yep 14, when they make them) didn't even get a mention? 🤔
@kazuvikingАй бұрын
14 speed casette is plain stupidity. The tolarence needed for that to work wont be that good. Current 12 speed gives a fit if the derailer or hanger is bent half a milimeter. 13 adn 14 will cease to work from any little damage. IGH are way better fit for that purpose.
@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
@@kazuviking that is why Wheeltop allows to correct every. single. individual. cog. Custom fit beats tolerances any time.
@einundsiebenziger5488Ай бұрын
13:03 - stop calling it "standard" when a new company introduces a new measurement (here: a larger BCD) that nobody else is using, because that is proprietary, which is the exact opposite of standard.
@gcntechАй бұрын
There is so much tech at these shows we can't show everything. That sounds amazing though!
@space.youtubeАй бұрын
@@gcntech What are you talking about? You literally showcased both. That's my point. lol
@7777777mikeАй бұрын
That is a cute little chainring, says José Meiffret 😂
@kaltonianАй бұрын
Worth watching, some great tech for the future, titanium shuttlecock detail is brilliant,
@wtfiswiththosehandlesАй бұрын
Myboo - sounds like a huge greenwashing venture. If you want to help people in Ghana, just build a factory there and employ them and teach them modern manufacturing materials, techniques and processes. BTW, their cheapest gravel bike costs over 3k EUR.
@einundsiebenziger5488Ай бұрын
Not to mention it's still the old colonial system of having a cheap-labour southern country make the raw material, then ship it to the rich north and sell it there with a huge mark-up.
@DjuntasАй бұрын
Well I think its cool they make new materials, but I fear its also not much better than current stuff. Hope its not greenwashing as you say.
@peterharrington8709Ай бұрын
Bamboo bikes are more of a cottage industry. Not at all huge. And the fact that they can grow the raw materials right there next to the workshop counts for a lot. No mining, smelting, metalworking or high tech chemical processes required. Price wise.... the group set alone probably costs more than the frame, then there's wheels and fork etc... But regardless, what *should* you charge for a beautiful, unique and completely functional piece of craftsmanship? Honestly, it's a fair deal for everyone.
@wtfiswiththosehandlesАй бұрын
@@peterharrington8709 All that "grow materials right next to workshop" is immediately and negatively offset by shipping them to Germany. The 3k EUR bike is configured the way any entry-level gravel bike is. GRX, basic wheels and tires, basic headset and bars. It's a 1k EUR bike sold for 3k EUR.
@StornofuerKasse3Ай бұрын
Still better than selling a 1,5k bike for 15k like the big brands do🤷🏻♂️
@BaTHoRy85Ай бұрын
Good to see GCN moving away from trying to make people replace their 15K road bikes each year and promoting/reviewing alternatives.
@sgp7975Ай бұрын
That 100t chain set would fit my penny-farthing. If I had one.
@lukesanders768Ай бұрын
Pretty good to cover brands that are not as big as Shimano or SRAM, interesting finds as well
@matt_acton-varianАй бұрын
The L-Twoo any speed concept is a brilliant affordable upgrade... for a disc brake bike. It's hydraulic only. The Wheel top system shown later on is available in both case and hydro disc, so good news for rim brake lovers wanting to cash in on the Chinese Groupset movement.
@glennicol1361Ай бұрын
Australian team St George are using Wheeltop on a Pardus currently racing Tour de Qinghai
@michaelnewman4302Ай бұрын
Editor, the closeup goes *after* Alex says "come closer".
@johnnyboy4711Ай бұрын
Cycling brands GCN has never been allowed to talk about up until now
@tjcarey80Ай бұрын
That opal fleck in that wheel set was wicked
@joearnold3594Ай бұрын
New companies was always my favorite section at Interbike
@cornishcat11Ай бұрын
Adrian did a really good report . keep it up
@jtt1928Ай бұрын
Very cool stuff! Thanks!
@aaronedgeartАй бұрын
This was great! Very interested on the ongoing tech for a lighter insert that gives us "never flat" riding status.
@gcntechАй бұрын
We'll keep an eye out for it!
@reinholdachleitner2069Ай бұрын
Awesome videos at Eurobike 2024,thanks for all the awesome coverage GCN,many Chinese component manufacturers at the show,i think L-Twoo will become more popular.💯👌🏻✌🏻🚴♂️
@gcntechАй бұрын
We'll have to watch this space 👀
@ivanmolotilov4779Ай бұрын
Raketa rocks!
@stephenprice4739Ай бұрын
Hi Alex, Really liked the input on how titanium 3D printing is coming on even to complete bike frames. I’m in the process of getting a titanium bike from J Laverack. They have just introduced 64 3D printed drop outs bottom brackets head sets and seat tube stay sections. Wondering on the benefits going for the 3D printed sections? Live near Sturdys bikes but out of my league. Thanks for show casing the new tech.
@Elbarbon_samuelАй бұрын
Should’ve shown Raketas well known diamond track chainring
@VLuchanskyАй бұрын
Didn't they stop to manufacture them?
@hellopsp180Ай бұрын
100 tooth chain ring is awesome.
@Macca8884.5Ай бұрын
That wheel set ,had mother of pearls on them..
@gcntechАй бұрын
Super flash 🙌
@user-sz8qg7ci9fАй бұрын
With there was warm bar tape.
@tebbsyАй бұрын
Challenge for you guys. You HAVE TO RIDE with that 100 toothed chain ring
@MasterChicken81Ай бұрын
retyre got a sleeve on type winter tires
@LiqvidatorАй бұрын
Where is Magene? They have new pedal powermeters and electronic groupset too
@hjldfjhdfhji1991iАй бұрын
We stayed in a hotel once and they had bamboo-bikes. was the worst driving experience ever...
@10ktubeАй бұрын
I really wish the bike industry would put some focus into making airless tires actually a performance thing instead of a clunky option for a beach cruiser. All of the aero and weight and nonsense stuff goes right out the window when you get a flat. There has to be some way to make airless tires that ride well and are fast enough for racing, it can't be a total mystery.
@DjuntasАй бұрын
There is, GCN needs to make a collab with the nasa bike tyre company. They might start shipping tires next year. See veritasium also, iirc he made a video on it.
@wtfiswiththosehandlesАй бұрын
Except it's just not possible with our state of technology. If it was, not only cycling but also automotive and aviation industries would be all over this idea. So far, the best way is to have a pneumatic tire, period
@LeesChannelАй бұрын
I could have used a 100t cassette back when I lived in San Francisco.
@TheBassallyear100Ай бұрын
that bar tape manufacturer might want to branch out into replacement lever hoods since that's where most of the time is spent...
@forton615Ай бұрын
Now you can buy orange 3d printed cycling crocs and batman glasses that go with your mushroom aero helmet. Roadcycling fashion is so avant-garde it hurts the eyes.
@gcntechАй бұрын
Whatever floats your boat 🙌
@DylanGoldbyPhotographerАй бұрын
That Korean wheel you were looking at is done with a traditional Korean process of inlaying mother of pearl into furniture, etc., called Nejeonchilgi. It's found in a few different parts of Asia and is a not to traditional craftsmanship.
@tom6493Ай бұрын
Somebody watched Hambini’s video and got offended 😂
@densyohАй бұрын
well Hambini could have waited until the last day of Eurobike before he said anything, more people could’ve gone with him. But the fact that GCN is having multiple videos done on Eurobike while its on-going, what’s Hambini’s point?🤷🏻
@Chris-pt6hhАй бұрын
That dude is so full of himself and intentionally contrarian.
@BoomsRiddico4868Ай бұрын
Yeah but he is a tosser
@benarahsounds9171Ай бұрын
Please elaborate? I dont know who to trust @@Chris-pt6hh
@06alepea120 күн бұрын
@@Chris-pt6hhyeah I used to find him funny. Now he just comes across as a bit of a prick. Not that he cares.
@lexington476Ай бұрын
0:57 if steel is real, what does that make bamboo 😀?
@adamwebАй бұрын
untrue? make do? shampoo? that's all I got 😂
@wtfiswiththosehandlesАй бұрын
Poo?
@lexington476Ай бұрын
@@adamweb 😊
@gcntechАй бұрын
Bamboo, that'll do 🫡
@lexington476Ай бұрын
@@adamweb well I did wash my hair this morning with shampoo 😀😃.
@mechpadeАй бұрын
does the Supreme Dutch insert work like Michelin Bib Mousse or more standard foam?
@dougpence3862Ай бұрын
I am interested in wireless shifting that can be customized for multiple gear speeds, and multiple brand cog spacing.
@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
@@dougpence3862 get Wheeltop
@PrzemyslawSliwinskiАй бұрын
6:30 - 144/24 = 6 and 144/36 = 4. Not as extreme as it seems... Is it possible, guys, to check this chainring at the track?
@doctorscootАй бұрын
I’ve certainly heard of those wintop and L-two groupsets. The win top one is software adjustable from 8 to 14 speeds!
@wtfiswiththosehandlesАй бұрын
@@doctorscoot wasn't it 3 to 14 speeds? BTW I have ltwoo r9 groupset and it's built better than my r7000. Not to mention it's better suited for smaller hands.
@doctorscootАй бұрын
@@wtfiswiththosehandles ahh yeah that might be true. I probably upgraded that low count!
@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcyclingАй бұрын
#askgcntech I have a question which may possibly be best suited to Alex with his mechanical / engineering background. How common / easy is is to bend an inner chain ring as this has happened twice. To be more specific I had a carbon inner ring with Sram Force set up which snapped about 18 months ago - so just used the big ring for a while due to finances. Returned to 105 last August and all was great until an indoor race on Rouvy this morning (Barbotto to San Marino) which included 4 hills. Anyway I could hear a grinding noise when powering up the 2nd hill and a quick investigation revealed an inner ring bend. My riding style is exclusively indoor. I climb a little (between 10,000 to 15,000m per week although June was lower due to illness) and I tend to keep a low cadence high torque style of riding. I have analysed the last few hard effort hill climbs including this morning and I'm not really pushing more than 50 to 53 NM (Newton Metres) for short bursts. Am I just unlucky? Is this a specific problem to indoor cycling? Could it just be an untrained bike mechanic who set the bike up? thanks
@moobaz8675Ай бұрын
More content on the less well known brands. It's where the innovation is.
@gcntechАй бұрын
We love covering all the tech 🙌
@OperationDarksideАй бұрын
The wooden bikes were the most interesting to me
@CL-yx7lyАй бұрын
The reason why you'll want up/down on an electronic shifter (left side) is for our left handed friends to program whatever they prefer
@brittle1Ай бұрын
pedersen is absolutely reeling to get his hands on that 100T crank
@gcntechАй бұрын
We're not sure we'll ever seen this in the pro-peloton 👀
@TimtimziАй бұрын
visited the tripeak site to get an idea on how much their stuff costs, but cant place an order. The SLT headset bearing might be a good alternative to ceramic speed's version
@RealciderreviewsАй бұрын
Would you need a custom frame to fit the 100 tooth chainring so it didn’t hit the chain stays?
@gcntechАй бұрын
Perhaps something best fitted on a track bike 👀
@HepheraАй бұрын
8:15 A nice idea but that would be absolutely awful in practice. if you're in somewhere in the middle of the cassette cogs it can be impossible to tell which chainring you're currently in through feel alone without actually looking down at your chainring. The number of times i forget which chainring im in and give the paddle a quick tap just to make sure im in the one i think im in is embarrassingly high. with this system doing that would immediately switch you into the WRONG chainring.
@ShellewellАй бұрын
GCN+ had a documentary about bamboo bicycles, didn't it? If Anders has never heard of them I think he needs to watch more content his colleagues are producing!
@gcntechАй бұрын
We'll sit him down and make him watch it 👀
@paulmcknight4137Ай бұрын
Now we know why Campy stuck to 110 mm bolt circles: stiffer cranks.
@neilpadfieldКүн бұрын
Don't let Sam Pilgrim have a go on any of those bamboo bikes!
@EirikkinserdalАй бұрын
Asics have slippers like that. Actibreeze 3d 😅
@luisrosano3510Ай бұрын
I wonder how many theeth a chainring should have to be the same lenth that to a normal 172,5 mm crank??????
@rg807Ай бұрын
Bamboo bikes= Gilligan's Island.
@charlesdonly776Ай бұрын
“Technology” as a loosely applied term. Me2 electronic shifting companies from China and some fairly standard additive manufacturing processes.
@paulbry754Ай бұрын
In what world are EDS a new brand they've been around and making parts for trek and giant and others since 1951.I have EDS on my mtb it's awesome and alot cheaper the the others
@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
@@paulbry754 you mean Lanxi? Because EDS is groupset name, it's only recent
@paulbry754Ай бұрын
@feedbackzaloop no it isn't eds has been around for atleast 2 on mtb
@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
@@paulbry754 huh, never heard of EDS brand. Good to know! BTW, Lanxi goes back to 1951 as well, hence my confusion Or do you mean EDS from Wheeltop on MTB? Well, two years is quite recent. Especially considering those were pilot batch parts two years ago. Current MTB EDS is updated, road is brand new.
@casualguy393Ай бұрын
I love how he says that no one is going to use a 100 tooth chain ring, but he knows better. Some recumbent bikes do, and for some of those at the top of the cycling food chain that travel almost 150kph 100 teeth are not enough. Yeah, you heard that right. +140kph on flat ground with no wind assist. "Yeah, but my TT bike...." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@peterbaskind9872Ай бұрын
You really are a bit late to the party on Ltwoo. They have been around for a while and some folks really like their stuff.
@michaelvrbanac6923Ай бұрын
Ho hum. L-Two and Wheeltop are interesting.
@JonCanningsАй бұрын
How many bratwurst and bread rolls were consumed?!
@superyamagucci24 күн бұрын
Selling wet bar tape is hilarious. BYO water ha ha ha these guys must be trolling.
@TG-lp5ydАй бұрын
Raketa 💣
@oplkfdhgkАй бұрын
4:28 so is it basically like evaporative cooling? pretty sure you can do that with any type of fabric that can absorb water.
@space.youtubeАй бұрын
Yeah nah, it's not that.
@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
Rather laptop heat sink or After Eight mints. At least claimed. But in reality you might be correct
@MrSmketrАй бұрын
I have seen a bigger chain ring!
@gcntechАй бұрын
How big? 👀
@MrSmketrАй бұрын
@gcntech it's on Berm Peak if I remember correctly. I don't remember how many teeth, but it was a big one.
@carlbonthuys3550Ай бұрын
Unpopular opinion. Massive chairing mean nothing if it works out to riding the same ratios as you were previously
@julianroorda5476Ай бұрын
How many likes for you to ride with the 100 tooth chainring?
@philadams9254Ай бұрын
What's the name of the company 3D printing Titanium?
@1973orsyАй бұрын
That's what I've been scrolling through to find out !
@philadams9254Ай бұрын
@@1973orsy Did you find out?
@FredsRandomFindsАй бұрын
Are those tyres at 4:54 going to be like a lot of other "Eco" items? where if you take into account the energy used to recycle them and the debris left behind after use (Worn plastic all over the road in this case?) then they are worse for the environment than a standard product?
@kidShibuyaАй бұрын
Yeah far worse than normal tyres which just shed their rubber all over the road and air then go to landfill so another can be made from literally the ground up.
@realalbertanАй бұрын
Has anyone thought of using an airless tire that is glued on a tubular rim? Likely way lighter than the stuff out now
@user-xw2cu1dn1yАй бұрын
What is this crank?
@ShturmanBasovАй бұрын
RAKETA 🔥
@cpk313Ай бұрын
Camera man doesn't take direction well
@user-uc5um3io2jАй бұрын
What about concealed motors?
@henriks5008Ай бұрын
Del Poop`o
@JointManJoe26 күн бұрын
non vulcanized tires -> less durable -> more tires sold, also more energy wasted since u have to recycle more things more often, and thats if recycling was more than sending things to china and dumping them somewhere
@jackm5213Ай бұрын
It's painful to listen to someone who has little to no understanding of basic engineering principles talk about engineering. Very basic machining and simple concepts are mind boggling to the layman..
@stevenagy7152Ай бұрын
Really painful to no longer be able to hide comments.
@jackm5213Ай бұрын
@@stevenagy7152 maybe you don't understand where I'm coming from.
@callumphАй бұрын
The audio levels on this video are horrific.
@savagepro9060Ай бұрын
5:56 Typical Alex, he goes to to a bike-show and loses his mind -->>'Shrunken Heads' version of Alex? . . . 🤣😂😅😆😁😄🙃
@Adrian-co1yzАй бұрын
The dutch company just copied boost from basf/Adidas? Super creative...😂
@blackhole4080Ай бұрын
OMG ... TPE tires. Even now, most of microplastic particles in the environment are coming from tire wear. This IS NOT SUSTAINABLE!
@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
@@blackhole4080 we need to see the data behind your statement.
@mindsmartie8975Ай бұрын
L-TW00 has ben tested numerous times and sucks. How can you create an image in peoples heads which makes them buy that crap? is it going that bad financially???
@peterharrington8709Ай бұрын
Seems more like they sent out early production versions for the reviewers, and they broke because they were pretty much beta versions at that point. A year on and I expect they'd have it sorted?
@feedbackzaloopАй бұрын
@@peterharrington8709 been couple of years already and they indeed sorted things out. In the meantime the big 3 rest on long history of ups and downs and not afraid to flush the market with subpar overpriced products.
@wtfiswiththosehandlesАй бұрын
Hey, did you hear how much Shimano sucks? Their expensive cranksets delaminate, how can you create an image in peoples heads which makes them buy that crap?
@elleffeffАй бұрын
Not true anymore. Check again. The latest reviews have been quite positive.
@shaung1719Ай бұрын
They moved a million groupsets last year including the Chinese domestic market. It's only a matter of time before they go mainstream, the focus now is on value.
@volkervoitАй бұрын
Brands you never heard of? All viewers from @chinacycling and @tracevelo "hold my beer" 🙂