GD w/ Laverne Cox + Honeymoon Pt 2, Golden Bachelorette, Baby Reindeer & Sandoval Redemption Attempt

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper Edition! To start things out, the household Zooms with Nick and Natalie on their honeymoon to get all of the details about their trip to Puerto Rico! We also talk about some true-crime headlines, the Golden Bachelorette announcement, and how we think Tom Sandoval is trying to redeem himself. Then, we talk to Laverne Cox about stardom, dating and relationships, her childhood, becoming comfortable with her body, her acting career and Orange Is The New Black. We also have a Texting Office Hours caller who is trying dating apps for the first time and doesn’t know if men's behavior is normal or if she should be doing something different.
“B-ch, that’s why I’ve been dating unavailable men!”
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
02:42 - Rats
05:29 - Espresso
13:20 - Honeymoon
16:06 - Flights
22:58 - Fake Identity and Baby Reindeer
33:50 - Bugs
35:20 - Golden Bachelorette
36:37 - Tom
38:08 - Carseat
47:12 - Laverne Cox Interview Begins
54:09 - Dating/Relationships
01:15:20 - Learning To Heal
01:42:37 - Acting Career/OITNB
01:59:47 - Texting Office Hours
02:35:27- Post Call Chat
02:36:32 - Outro

[@thaliagarcia7831]

I love that nick just stayed quiet and admired these strong brave women. Natalie and Laverne were so vulnerable and shared their struggles and it was so inspiring. Great episode 🫶🏻🤍

[@jensenrae2226]

Wow wow wow. This episode with Laverne was absolutely incredible. I’ve loved her but continue to love her more and more, the more she talks and guides us through her brain and thoughts. I can only imagine how many people feel so seen after listening/watching. Thanks, both Natalie and Laverne, for being so open and brave, sharing your stories. ❤

[@larsp23]

ABSOLUTELY LOVE LAVERNE COX! Had the privilege to see her speak at the company I work for and she had some amazing insights and stories and loved her presence! Overall such a beautiful soul!!

[@Paulad67]

The way I cried throughout this whole episode because I felt seen. This is one of the best episodes and Laverne’s wisdom has finally helped me decide to start real therapy work on trauma. Thank you Laverne and Natalie for being so open and vulnerable with us. It was a gift I didn’t know I needed. ❤️

[@tonibrooks9719]

Omg! This is one of my favorite episodes. Natalie and Laverne have my utmost respect for being so vulnerable and authentic.

[@KJS0898]

Love nick in the beginning of this episode. I’ve never seen him so bubbly 😂

[@Free420Love]

He had DEFINITELY had either a few drinks, or, more likely, smoked or ate some edibles. 😂

[@megscaligirl26]

Such an incredibly powerful episode ❤ loved the honeymoon up date. LOVED the connection between Laverne and Natalie and the deeper conversations around childhood trauma. Genuine and endearing! Thank you for that

[@lalae2023]

Yes the silence of Nick for them to connect and share 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🦋💕 she is amazing.

[@_Sunday_Morning]

Nick is definitely high!! lol

[@purehoneyy.b]

Hes in puerto lol

[@_Sunday_Morning]

@@purehoneyy.b and??

[@_Sunday_Morning]

@@purehoneyy.b marijuana is legal for medical purposes in Puerto. This includes for anxiety

[@vickinathan8777]

He was on the last episode too

[@nataliemcclain5370]

I was like, he seems even more likable this episode

[@alswonderland]

BABY Reindeer - Keep watching, he explains why he kept her in his life. If you’re watching, look for the the 12min “episode” in the episodes & more section where the main guy talks about his personal experience and making the show. Very interesting.

[@genesishernandez9660]

Didn’t think I could love Laverne anymore…..thank you for sharing your wisdom and experiences with us!

[@stacylee4187]

former Barista here. a cappuccino is a smaller cup, 2 shots of espresso and milk foam only. a latte is a regular sized cup, 2 shots of espresso, a milk, just a little foam.

[@mmeshke]

Thank god you spoke up, 😂, that conversation drove me crazy!

[@autumnashwood2116]

Exactly a cap requires more foam, latte is more milk & less foam (froth at the top)

[@bryankosfeld]

came here to say this, glad someone clarified

[@runnerX007]

Ditto! We made both with the same espresso, but foam in the cappuccino vs. milk in the latte. So technically youd get LESS with the cappuccino for that higher concentration of coffee.

[@ScubaSteve3560]

​@@mmeshkeI just stick to macchiatos

[@Itsallgravybaby777]

I needed this thank you 🙏🏻

[@hkholverson]

@Justin I drove from Tennessee to Wisconsin on May 21st and the cicadas were BUZZING so loud, we could hear them over the freeway noise, our music, windows closed, etc. Definitely would have needed ear protection if you live near there! Illinois and Missouri specifically were WILDLY loud

[@christianne.]

Such a great podcast w/ LC!!

[@rachelsheumaker120]

this intro was particularly funny I couldn’t stop smiling esp about that pet rats

[@nz3644]

Great episode 😀

[@deborahgarcia6797]

Glad you guys came to Puerto Rico, bienvenidos! 💕🇵🇷 Hope you had a great time!

[@kaeleeroggie6870]

Been waiting for y'all to cover rhonj!! 😍

[@Kimberly_11]

8:19 ... Ohhh now I remember the story on Instagram of Natalie attempting to make Nick a cappuccino ( right after they returned home from the HM ) and Nick ask Natalie if she's making him a cappuccino.. did y'all buy an actual cappuccino machine, on the trip or did you already have one 😂

[@cassandrad10]

Incredible episode! I would love some trauma book recs, there were so many great insights from Laverne and Natalie.

[@goodmomoldmom]

I’m calling it now: Natalie will keep the David Yurman necklace beef alive until she gets one comped. Would not be surprised if Nick was in on the ruse.

[@graceekalinowski]

Omg that caller would not stop asking more questions lollll

[@Kimberly_11]

Differences between a latte and cappuccino Despite the latte being such a popular choice, many often get it confused with a cappuccino as they’re both frothy coffees. They are very different drinks though as the latte is creamier, with espresso and steamed milk mixed together to create a more subtle taste. A cappuccino on the other hand is much stronger with equal parts steamed and foamed milk. It’s also customary in most places to serve a cappuccino with a dusting of chocolate on top.

[@kativanmeter4928]

Former Barista here 🙋🏼‍♀️ A latte is espresso and milk. A cappuccino is espresso, half milk and half foam. So because there is less milk in there, that’s why it tastes stronger.

[@chesleythorn4651]

Was our honeymoon king a little drunk during this episode orrrr??? 😂

[@me-shell323]

I live in MD and we had a huge cicada emergence a few years ago. It was so loud, kinda gross, but also amazing to watch. And there’s a cicada app that you can post pics and videos to allow for tracking of them

[@chele4real453]

Love Laverne’s personality ❤… I’m a fan of Yentl too … one of the best movie soundtracks 👏🏽

[@tonibrooks9719]

Yes! I love Yentl.

[@fishfooood]

Cappuccino is half milk half foam (with espresso) latte is mostly milk light foam. Same espresso. Single, double, triple, quad shots of your choice

[@alswonderland]

Happy honeymoon❣️ May your life together be filled with many sexy outdoor showers!!!

[@DJoy96]

This was great! ❤Laverne Cox!!!!

[@alyssad7019]

love that astepeo sponsor! coming from a pharmacy tech! love that stuff

[@goodmomoldmom]

Anyone else made extremely sleepy by Astepro?

[@RealityTvLover]

You guys have to go to chilis and try an espresso martini ! We need a review ! And Katie being in their commercials is having me wanting one ! Maybe you two , Katie and Dayna could do the next ad ? Would love to see Natalie in a commercial ❤

[@tracim3080]

See, I did a mechanics course and part of it. The teacher made sure to demonstrate to us how airbags deployed and actually set them off for us to see so that we never make the mistake of putting the car seat in the wrong way. We also watched a multitude of videos why you don’t do the puffy coats while make sure kids aren’t near airbags and everything else so that’s not a mistake I can ignore.

[@brittanymcclellan6091]

Sleep is NOT a Mother’s Day gift omg 🫠

[@julietteSoul]

Yentyl is a beautiful film ❣️

[@user-mq8qm7ex3f]

You can definitely tell Nick is drinking a lot of cappuccinos. 🤣🤣🤣 He’s talking so fast! lol

[@me-shell323]

I thought the latte vs cappuccino was the amount of steamed milk vs foam. Both are good. But to make a latte stronger just get an extra shot of expresso

[@lauramoor7730]

That’s what I thought too

[@purehoneyy.b]

Right lol

[@natoshajohnson7077]

Fav podcast!!! Been waiting for this episode!!

[@ariannatanguma9311]

Wheres the podcast voice? lol

[@mrsjessicasmith]

Am I missing something? I didn't think David Yurman necklaces were that pricey?

[@user-mi6if6uz1e]

No shade but there is the same age gap (18 years) between Nick/Natalie as there is Nick/the new golden bachelorette.

[@partialartsblackbelt8384]

Honestly when it comes to my children’s safety I 100% would welcome a gentle correction.

[@ScubaSteve3560]

Bro, when you order your latte ask them to put an extra shot of espresso. I personally get Macchiatos, but I get a quad(4 shots of espresso) If it's too much milk, just add an extra shot bro and it won't be. When im at home, I use nothing but a percolator and I shit you not it is the best coffee ive ever had...heat up the milk for a minute and 30 and use a frother and add the coffee from the percolator and you will have the best homemade coffee that you've ever tasted. Sincerely, a Puerto Rican Coffee Connoisseur😂

[@brc9219]

that newer producer's crispy Rs are so irritating

[@RealityTvLover]

Zyrtec is my go to for allergy relief Natalie ! And you’re my favorite couple ❤❤

[@sophiasklar5529]

From a former barista, in a cappuccino the milk is steamed for longer so it is frothier, in a latte the milk is not steamed as long so it is creamier.

[@stack.attack27]

His being high all the time (as he clearly is for the beginning portion) will get old real quick for Natalie. She rubs me the wrong way a lot but from 1 mother to another I feel for her. Doing it every once in a while is one thing but eventually it will become all you want to do. For River's sake I hope he quits soon. It's also such a bad look to be on camera and be clearly inebriated

[@purehoneyy.b]

You are projecting all of your own personal issues love, he's fine. As is she. Believe me.

[@zannyz]

I think it’s nice for Nick to let loose and be lighthearted! Natalie’s funny and I’m sure she laughs off the stuff he says when he’s high. He’s not inebriated and he’s still filming content on his HONEYMOON so yall can lighten up a bit with the criticism! Weed is legal in his state, people are allowed to do whatever they want

[@stevec-cq6fu]

When did vile get a hair transplant after andi season. ?

[@Meredith_Paige]

I like that he is chillin on his honeymoon and having fun. Only they would know if there’s an issue. Tons of ppl can just smoke and not have any impact of their life. It’s not for me personally but zero judgement. You do you

[@erikabk2u]

As a former barista, hearing the thoughts about what y’all thought a cappuccino vs latte I was just out loud saying no to you guys talking. Same amount of milk different amount of foam. Cappuccino is much foamier than a latte (they are steamed differently)

[@10113sarah]

I think you completely missed the point of Baby Reigndeer. It’s not about the stalking at all - it’s a much deeper message. And she’s not supposed to be considered a bad person. 😂

[@melissanastoska8726]

I was so frustrated listening to nick talk about this when he never finished the show, i dont get why his cohosts dont speak up when they know more then him

[@jennyonthecoast]

Am i the only one who wondered what are the intense hobbies of the caller?

[@flerrrrrrrrrrrp2997]

wait... did she ask what was "The Simple Life"... WHAT IS THE SIMPLE LIFE??????????????? we would not live in this timeline if it wasn't for The Simple Life.

[@2cepeda]

If you need something stronger Cortado or cortadito is sooo much better 🤤 also Aldi has delicious chocolate croissants

[@joanne8084]

Ally is looking beautiful !! I mean she’s always beautiful but I thought her makeup & look in this one was gorgeous.

[@Classynaty]

PUERTO RICOOOOO EN LA CASAAAA🇵🇷✨☀️

[@juicie25bt]

Holy Shit Balls, I had to take several breaks...it was A LOT of talking. Bbbbrrreeeaaattthhhh!

[@alexisrichardsonhair]

This is one of the best going deeper episodes

[@haleywhite8192]

She is SPOT ON with so much she said. I enjoyed this, very personal development and deep insight type of GD episode :)

[@leahnorar]

How come nick’s voice sounds different ? Didn’t recognize his voice. Cappuccino > latte

[@Misssslola916]

I thought the same thingggf

[@rhiconnect]

Laverne is so beautiful!

[@2cepeda]

I think Nick is drunk lollll

[@_Sunday_Morning]

I think high since I believe he doesn’t drink as much. It’s hilarious though

[@2cepeda]

@@_Sunday_Morning oh lol definitely

[@vickinathan8777]

She is a talker! Nick didn’t say much at all!

[@Meredith_Paige]

150% just said “Nick is baked” lol so funny

[@nz3644]

God love any spiritual topic ❤ it’s all true ❤

[@toribauer1560]

A cappuccino isn’t stronger than a latte.. they have the same amount of espresso shots! A cappuccino just means it is more foamy lol they can only be made hot.

[@BurkstonLodgeCEO]

Wow another black person that grew up watching Yentle!! Lol. Never thought I’d see the day. Aw the younger generation will never know what they are missing by not knowing Barbara Striesand.

[@frankiegadot990]

Am I the only one that thought Laverne was talking way too much! I know she was being interviewed, but also it was so hard for Nick or Natalie to get a word in and I usually like it when there’s a back-and-forth. Lol It seems like Laverne needs a podcast of her own so she can just go off ! Peace and love I still enjoyed the episode but damn she needed to get a lot out on this I guess!

[@andielee17]

She does this on all her podcast interviews I’ve noticed. I think she’s nervous and just rambles

[@stephaniewatts5807]

Very great guest and learned a lot but is Nick being quiet cuz he is in awe or so scared to say the wrong thing.. unsure

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

Interesting wow

[@Velvet3699]

Love Laverne!

[@anamarquezkoch4392]

I wish one of u would've been on my SW flight back from Dsney w my then 10 yr old daughter. It was her 1st time flying n I was not aware of priority seating..CRICKETS, finally someone scooted over one seat so we could both be kinda next to each other. Now I pay the $100 ev time bc people r aholes

[@pchygrl17]

Love Laverne Cox so much. ❤

[@Dogmama3]

But why is the mouse looking at her? That is creepy! I thought the babies might be in her car. She was also worried because if she turned the car on other rearview mirrors move automatically and she was afraid it would be squished.

[@purehoneyy.b]

Allergy medicine just makes things worse long term vs fixing the problem..i used to rely on it hardcore but then quercetin saved my life and all my allergies went away.. natural is better.. unless dying of a bee sting etc lol

[@lisadonoho5467]

Natalie seemed annoyed when Nick went on his rant about parenting.

[@zumstegbyanca-ii7uc]

i like watch it

[@eliz49]

#TeamSouthwest !

[@cindicleee]

❤❤❤

[@claudiapawlak6894]

When temptation is more with another women . Where do two people go from these one night stands ? The covet is to only see poster pictures of rock musicians . Pick up a bottle of Champagne , the night I got married . Is it hard to accept illegitimate children in another relationship ? Some men do accept a girl with a baby .

[@thereallifeofaimeebarton8152]

Seems like Nicks dad was right!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@juliecapito7]

Puerto Rico has best food. Congrats! Wear Off to the beach! No seeums all over. Miserable to itch.

[@purehoneyy.b]

Same amount of caffeine.. you just get the magical foam and less milk.. its more manly in my opinion lol.. lattes are girly. Technically.. you are getting less beverage

[@Velvet3699]

Laverne at 47 min

[@FrancineD-xm4nx]

Hey, great job this sounds like it’s all based on Celestine Dessike's Words of Desire. And yes, that’s the material you need to have him resonating with erotic electricity at your will. Sounds like too much IK, but just for the basics it's worth go'ogling her ;)

[@andielee17]

Am I the only one that was tired of listening to her talk so much no disrespect but it seemed like she was talking the whole time

[@EmilyCard-zj9lr]

I don’t understand why it’s fine to just trash men as a whole and talk about them in an insanely derogatory way while calling yourself a feminist. If the same kinds of things were said towards women in this day and age, people would lose their minds.

[@CrowdFave]

Misandry and its finest

[@lisadonoho5467]

Natalie…not to be offensive but out of care…have you had your thyroid checked. It looks a little swollen.

[@ratedrachel3670]

Seperate interviews and lame podcasts. Please! I don't care about your honeymoon 😂😢