Going Deeper with Lindsay Hubbard (Not a 1950s Housewife) Plus Bravocon and Flying Air Canada

Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper Edition! First, the household gets together to discuss some recent experiences - like flying Air Canada - and recent pop culture headlines like Special Forces and Bravocon. Then, we are joined by Summer House’s Lindsay Hubbard to talk about her devastating breakup with Carl Radke. We walk through their relationship - from friends to fiancés - and what led up to their on-camera breakup. Who knew before? Who helped her overcome the heartache? And who is living in their apartment?
We also have a Texting Office Hours caller who
“I had to change everything about me to be with him.”
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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Intro
00:14:35 - Special Forces Recap
00:21:26 - Pop Topics
00:37:15 - Lindsay Interview
01:52:07 - Texting Office Hours
02:04:02 - Lindsay Interview Continued
02:16:13 - Outro

[@anxietytrip]

Whos watching this after the new season has aired?

[@Mbenza]

Lindsay: I was totally blindsided! Also Lindsay: spends the rest of the podcast talking about all the things that went wrong 🤷‍♀️

[@TB-sh9lf]

I was not surprised at all this marriage didn’t happen. I think they both dodged a bullet, this relationship had so so many red flags 🚩

[@tanonymous4051]

“There were no signs” continues to list signs…. “We rarely fought”…. We went to counseling because of fighting “He’s my best friend”…. “We didn’t communicate on a deeper level” Delulu

[@erikayeargain5832]

This. She said she didn’t know until he said it on camera but then turns around and said she called her dad and said “well he did it” and that she had intuition and knew. Which one was it? Shes always talked in circles

[@brookebeezy5316]

Watching this two episodes into the new season and Lindsey confirms that she was the problem. She deflected the entire time and took no ownership whatsoever. Blindsided? Wow.

[@cristinadalmeida12]

I truly believe Carl didn't stand up for Lindsay in the house during those heated moments with the rest of the cast because he subconsciously knew what they were saying was true and he did not know how to handle the situation. Let's not forget he ended things with her years ago for similar behavior patterns and made plenty of comments back then that he could not handle her intensity. I think he ended it because all of those red flags came to the forefront. You cannot stay in the honeymoon phase forever and from what I saw in some of the episodes from last season, he was being abused and she demanded way too much from him.

[@daniellekondruk2462]

Agree. That’s why he went SO hard in the reunion. Someone got it his ear and he’s immature.

[@AWHMN]

This aged like milk 🥛

[@ThemboCinema]

It’s come back around idkkkk

[@SydneyKong]

“I’m polarizing” me after watching summer house: well you’re polarizing because you’re crazy lmaooo

[@monikat.5814]

Hahahahahahaha yes.

[@BridgetSingarayar]

I absolutely love Nick and Natalie's outlook on couples therapy! So much healthier than going when it's past the point of no return.

[@xotennishottixocheer]

Who else is reconsidering this whole interview after last week’s episode? Because her version of “ going off” is a bit irrational. And Carl has been quiet because he doesn’t have to defend himself.

[@haleighwilliams7892]

This woman is beyond delusional. Good for Carl.

[@ericascharf8711]

Yeah she definitely likes to paint a “pretty picture” always when she relays her side of. story. Honestly, everybody would like her better if she was just authentic about her flaws. It’s not about having them, it’s just about acknowledging and being self aware and then maybe working on them. It’s hard to connect when she really is so smart, yet lacks self awareness or is just in denial due to ego and keeping a facade. She’s on a reality show .. we see who she is lol idk the point. She was possibly blindsided to the timing and calling off the wedding, but in general she can’t be shocked he wasn’t into it anymore.. She definitely needs to reword that. Also she gaslights his anger and says “popped off” and things like that when he is in no way doing that..

[@sarahlinder7625]

Came here to re-watch with the season on mind.

[@fionahamilton3018]

I’m more excited for Summer House than Vanderpump Rules new seasons.

[@mommycontent]

I’m not even watching the new vanderpump rules season Way too much hypocrisy

[@elizabethmassey6377]

😂🎉

[@lolamar6064]

Same same

[@lolamar6064]

Same same

[@brookewilson372]

Same! For some reason idc about the new season of VPR much. We all know how it’s gonna play out basically

[@iloveyouuuu135]

I wonder how ya’ll feel about this episode now since clearly you were lied to and also manipulated into believing her version of events. I think this is why in the future, it would be best to watch the season, and then have interviews like this.

[@katelynarmstrong9549]

I need the Carl interview now that we are seeing things unfold this season!

[@lizzettemartinez2733]

I do not like Gypsy Rose she got away with murder and I Believe in My heart that she killed her mother personally

[@karlymarie5392]

I knew from the moment they got engaged that he would break her heart. He’s the type who runs away from his problems instead of fixing them. Carl has some growing up to do. I gotta say I’m super excited for the new season.

[@sumchick8701]

That's an interesting take considering he faced his own addiction issues and has been sober for a few years now. But then again, Lindsay is a problem, so it's good hes run from her lol

[@t-hex6876]

Lindsey would be an absolute nightmare to be married to. She’s bossy, lies, banged a million guys and brags about it and hooks-up with random dudes on camera. Definitely not “marriage material” in most guys eyes. She’s even a bad friend.

[@napperforlife2020]

it's not a new take. From the beginning, carl had a severe inferiority complex and was a terrible communicator. What respect can he possibly give lindsay if he can't give himself any?@@sumchick8701

[@kandykaye9981]

He did it once before so I expected it too.

[@christinemetz5351]

I knew they also would never get married, but not because he would break her heart. Lindsey has destroyed every relationship. She’s been in because she could never be wrong, never takes responsibility, drinks too much, and then starts ridiculous fights. She’s done it in every relationship since she’s been on summer house, and I’m willing to bet she tanked others before that as well.

[@mariez1208]

In the long run, he did her a favor. A recovering addict in active counseling has a LOT to figure out. A big portion of this is learning to set boundaries. I bet this is what he was struggling with before he ended it. Of course, he did it in the WORST way possible which tells me he is still on the struggle bus big time. He’s likely got a lot more to work through before any further life changing decisions. And to Lindsay - be thankful. If he could do this to you in such a public way, he’s likely capable of a lot worse.

[@napperforlife2020]

he also always had a severe inferiority complex. it would not have lasted since lindsay is so confident and strong within herself.

[@MsOthomson]

Completely agree!

[@suedaniel147]

So unfortunate but she truly dodged a bullet. Something better is coming her way.

[@user-mc9zv3yn1u]

Frankly I think Carl dodged A VERY CHAOTIC BULLET!!!

[@tiffanypriore9220]

I know we only see very small snippets of their lives and personalities etc- however from what we have seen from Carl over the years, is very little regard for anyone’s feelings except his own. Especially when it comes to women. He has never seemed to truly care about any woman he’s dated or hooked up with feelings, he’s always been very selfish & has knowingly hurt women & showed zero care. Just bc you’re not romantically into someone anymore ( not talking about Lindsey specifically just in general any woman he dated or slept with) doesn’t mean you can’t be a decent human being and have empathy, especially when that woman cares or has feelings for you. He is very stunted emotionally & mentally which is common w addicts unfortunately

[@christinemetz5351]

Lindsey Hubbard takes no accountability. She can never be wrong. She drinks too much and then starts fights. She’s done it in every relationship she’s been in since she’s been on the summer house program and I’m willing to bet she did it with relationships prior to that. That’s why I knew she would ruin this relationship and she and Carl would not get married. Carl dodged a bullet.

[@PICARDY610]

BINGO

[@morganf2581]

Thank you so much for having her on! She’s got a lot of support but I’m glad she can tell her side of the story.

[@suedaniel147]

Speaks volumes of her being humiliated like that and her speaking today.

[@lanasawyer9812]

Thank you for being transparent about Air Canada. There are other airlines in America with “customer service” reps who act the same way! It’s so disgraceful. I really hope it goes viral and there will be backlash. That’s the only way anything will change.

[@loislois3526]

Yeah sounds like their customer service is very sub par

[@Krouleau02]

As a fellow Torontonian, it was so amazing seeing you both as special guests at the CHD show (Natalie is easily one of the coolest people) and thanks so much for bashing Air Canada because all our airlines here need to be humbled to say the least lmfao....

[@belindaheid8936]

I have flown with air Canada from Vienna (AUT) to Toronto and I had a great experience. I also flew with themfrom Toronto to Miami and everything was fine.. If you wanna bash an airline, bash United Airlines or American airlines. (Btw I'm not Canadian nor American)

[@courtneyhoover280]

As a Canadian who has flown a ton air Canada, west jet…but also American Airlines, United and Emerates. The Canadian airlines are easily middle of the pack. US airlines are laughable! And then there is Emerates that is wonderful!!!

[@dr_power.]

Nick is completely right about Air Canada - no competition. Having to fly them for work is the worst. Ditto on people who love controlling you instead of servicing you. If you go up the chain to complain about them you’ll find those people at every level even at the top!

[@heatheraggus7501]

WestJet is no better these days.

[@raw8565]

How does Carl not express the way he feels during couples therapy! This all could have been avoided if he told you this sooner so you guys could worked on your relationship!

[@erikayeargain5832]

He probably did and she refused to hear it. She seems incredibly hard to talk to. Shes always the common factor in fights. If you’re fighting with everyone, you’re the issue.

[@katherine2530]

Im so stoked for this!

[@Mercpurse]

So funny, when nick was grunting carrying Tom I was laughing so hard. And then the way jojo throws Sandoval over her shoulder and carries him 😂 that was definitely not on my bingo card this year.

[@t-hex6876]

That was awesome. Nick talked so much sh!t about Tom and then has to carry him to the point where he’s about to collapse. Might have been some karma built into that moment.

[@brittneyciaramella3066]

I’m a flight attendant and a gate agent (while i was in uniform) did this exact thing to me… they can help you but they just don’t want to.. it’s so sad, sorry ya’ll had to go through this!!

[@biancan482]

As a fellow Canadian, everyone I know, hates Air Canada. My husband and I won't ever use them. We went to a wedding in Spain last year and we flew WestJet and my friends flew Air Canada... Air Canada kept my friends on the tarmac for over an hour and then just cancelled their flight completely. This is just one story out of hundreds of their horrendous customer service. So sorry you had to deal with that pregnant Nat! As someone who is also 5 months postpartum, and remembers how emotional and uncomfortable you are pregnant, I can't imagine how this must have felt.

[@lolamar6064]

Hate Air Canada, i haven't flown them in over 15 years. Absolute worst airline I've ever flown in my life, their customer service is the worst of the worst.

[@heatheraggus7501]

Wow poor Natalie. What a tragic ordeal she had to deal with. Omg the worst experience of her whole pregnancy, the poor thing.

[@raquelifornia]

I don’t even watch Summer House and this interview was riveting.

[@anastasiagebhardt7311]

I don’t know anything about them, but this woman is terrifies me.

[@Megan-1234]

And all the men she’s ever been with! Lol. I don’t blame any of them. She can lose her shit in a psychotic way and has shown that on national television. Imagine what she won’t show!! Scary!!!

[@morganf2581]

Then you weak asf

[@jt12388]

I’m not regular on her show, but what she says doesn’t really add up. She starts on how blind sided she was and she had zero clue, but then talk about how weird he was during filming and how he kept popping off and he changed before the wedding. Umm like wasn’t that a clues that things were off. I understand she could have ignored the clues but it seems like there was warning signs.

[@buckeye256]

First podcast to which I have ever listened and it was great. Lindsay was articulate, sharp and had a grip on her emotions. She clearly described her plans, hopes and fears, shared some very personal issues. BTW, I listened without watching the video, because I did not want to be distracted. If you are not Team Lindsay after listening, you were not listening.

[@Alex-mx6mu]

EXACTLY

[@sarahd6913]

Lindsay needs a strong older man with his shit together. Like mid forties. She's too alpha for these little boys

[@PICARDY610]

SHE CERTAINLY IS A BEAST. SHE NEEDS A MAN WHO WOULD BACKHAND HER

You might want to have her back on to clear up some stuff😂

[@Megan-1234]

Now do we get to hear the other side of the story? She doesn’t seem to be the easiest person to live with if we see how she’s been with all her other boyfriends on the show. I’m sure there’s more to his side of the story than just what she has to say. She seems to be a very high maintenance person and desperate to be married to anyone. Be happy it happened before you were married. Guarantee she wasn’t perfect!

[@anock03]

Exactly...

[@kristenfreiburger1000]

Exactly! I want both sides!

[@courtneyhoover280]

Correct! To be honest, when they got engaged I kind of felt like she said yes because she didn’t care who was giving the ring, just that I was on her hand.

[@jennifer6833]

I don’t see him interviewing with anyone and being completely honest. He’s so guarded whenever he talks. I have nothing against him either. There’s two sides to everything. It’s good to hear her side.

[@erikayeargain5832]

Usually the one who is at peace with the truth and doesn’t have anything to prove, won’t do these types of “tell alls”. I doubt we’ll hear from him.

[@mvieira7610]

Um but - is anyone catching that they didnt check in? Why are you surprised about not getting on the flight?

[@Megan-1234]

Come on. They’re social media/tv stars. The biggest! They should get their way even if it’s against company policy! 😂😂

[@ronniejo103]

They didn't arrive early to add the dog, either.

[@karendionne2228]

It's clear that Carl lacks emotional maturity. My respect for Lindsay has grown exponentially after watching this interview. I wish her the best in her life going forward.

[@CC-tn2rw]

I don’t believe for one second she doesn’t get activated anymore. Just because it shows up differently doesn’t mean it isn’t insufferable

[@Megan-1234]

Yeah, there’s no way she doesn’t!

[@mzzthang3912]

I'm here to say not even 2 episodes and she's activated Lindsay is truly a problem seeing how she twists stories I totally get y he wanted the cameras present

[@Paul-uq4xf]

Everything activates Lindsay. So many girls have daddy issues but I’m curious if her narcissism stems from overcompensating because of her mom’s absence in her life. She’s very independent and successful as far as career goes but she doesn’t seem to value her body and I don’t think she’s as confident as she likes to pretend. So desperate to be loved. Her and Danielle have that in common with men and they then wonder why they can’t keep a man.

[@charlottedhall1]

I think watching Lindsey drunk and starting fights with him showed me all I needed to see. Sorry! Drinking and a newly sober person do not make a good match. She did nothing but brow beat him when she was drunk. Run Carl!

[@tinaayer801]

Narcissism meets PR 101 by Lindsay Hubbard.

[@lilmoosecaboose]

It’s hard for me to believe she is fully over it after 2 months.

[@rachaelrome]

Dang mixed feelings on this one. First off - I'm siding with Lindsay on this one, because what Carl did was impulsive, selfish, and humiliating. (He was acting out of his addicted self). But I'm also amazed how fast she moved forward and past her feelings for him. That's an almost decade-long friendship she is grieving on top of her broken engagement. To be fine after 2 months (and completely over it) doesn't feel authentic to me. Also, I don't hear a lot of ownership for her reactivity or her part in the rupture. It takes two to tango, especially in trauma-bonded relationships. Dr. John Gottman said there's almost fool-proof signs that a couple won't last, and its called the 4 Deadly Horsemen of the Apocalypse. I see Lindsay's contempt, and Carl's is stonewalling and defensiveness.

[@KimG-br8uh]

I dont believe she's completely over it. I think she meant that she's in a better place with herself to move on. She got all her emotions out and grieved during those weeks, so she's better now. Then she kept herself busy to keep her mind off things.

[@vivsreds1006]

I feel like at a certain age and point in time, after god knows how many heartbreaks, disappointments and so on, you get to a point where moving forward and on happens faster. You don’t forget it and put it in the past, but you you certainly do move forward easier and don’t break down as often

[@thatonechic013]

I think she is in the anger stage of grieving. I don't think she necessarily moved past it easily but when someone you love does something so humiliating and publicaly...anger can overpower other emotions or you can just shut down completely. I am a high investment person. Meaning it may take time to earn my trust or love but once I let you in and investment it is everything I have- a high investment. Once that is betrayed or broken I detach completely. Shut down. And it's a subtle inner anger. Then I Want nothing to do with that person and can move on. It's not healthy I'm sure and it's a struggle. Hopefully this makes sense. No matter what though, I wish both Linds and Carl healing. An awful situation no matter who's side you are on. I personally am glad to see her moving forward. Love Lindsey's strength.

[@user-li7lt4xq2t]

Is she supposed to slice her wrists? Dang!

[@allalala714]

About Ariana and Tom... at this point it's the best breakup ever! Made them both tons of money, blew up VPR to more than it's ever been and made Ariana mega famous! That's the best way I guess to end a bad relationship!

[@seven92023]

The breakup has benefited Ariana way more than Tom though. Even the other women on the show like Scheana, Lala and Katie have benefited more than Tom. And they still want him to not talk, only apologize for the rest of his life.

[@heatherfits]

​@@seven92023Funny thing, I have no idea who any of these women are that you are talking about. The only one of those names that I am familiar with is Tom!!!

[@dcoleman4444]

I think a really good, and HONEST therapist would do Lindsey some good.

[@monikat.5814]

Yes. Her current therapist is clearly keeping her around for $$ bc this girl needs help

[@DanaAngelaAlexisMiller]

Lindsay looks amazing! I hope she finds her Prince Charm in her new fairytale. ✨

[@ginafiduccia1746]

Fast forward to the season airing and it shows Lindsay just acting like Lindsay… getting wasted drunk and being combative AF. And basically contradicting everything she said in this interview.

[@user-li7lt4xq2t]

They all drink to excess, that's what makes the show.

[@courtneyhoover280]

Bingo! It feels like she’s getting a head of this to set a narrative.

[@dr_power.]

Wow, what a great interview. Your questions Nick were masterful. Love the show.

[@goodnotgr8]

last two weeks of summer carl was telling her that couples therapy wasn’t working, yet she claims she was blindsided after filming? interesting

[@kendramiddletonwilliams]

I agree with Nick that it’s helpful to go out of your way to be extra kind to people who work the check in counters at airports.

[@jenriggs1261]

So she knew but didn't want to really know. She sure does see his flaws but not hers

[@Megan-1234]

Exactly!!! It’s ALWAYS been the man fault in every relationship of hers. Maybe she really should take a look in the mirror and realize what bad she brings to her relationships. She’s the common denominator in all the relationships that have run far away from her.

[@theresaterry164]

I fast forward to the interview…..

[@gloriakim5513]

I’m not surprised about your experience with Air Canada. Even as a Canadian who travels frequently, I avoid them at all cost. They go out of their way to make you miserable while taking no accountability for their errors, operational issues, delays and overall terrible customer service! Sorry you guys had to experience it 😢

[@lindseyaweber]

She tried to date down and that didn’t work out so well for her. Now it’s time to shine and find that king that supports and helps her thrive! Love Lindsay, she’s a a total package ❤❤❤

[@seven92023]

Those kings don't want to deal with women like her though. They have other, better options to choose from.

[@t-hex6876]

Total package? More like total nightmare with a huge body count. Most the type of guys she would interested in marrying, would never want to marry her with all that masculine and controlling energy.

[@Megan-1234]

She’s waaaay too needy for all the men she’s dated. She wants to marry anyone. We’ve seen how she acts towards her boyfriends in the show. Imagine what she won’t show on tv! She seems very into what she needs and no one else.

[@bebesotatx]

Carl's lack of relationships is just as concerning as Lindsey's serial monogamist approach to relationships; they can both benefit from being single and going to therapy to individually work out their issues

[@Megan-1234]

Yes! She jumps from man to man to man so she can get married. She clearly is not as great as she makes herself out to be when we see every man has run! Run….run far away!!

[@jennwillo]

It speaks volumes to the type of friend that Danielle is especially how brutal Lindsay treated her (along with her other “friends”) during last season. And for Lindsay to claim she’s an “open book” is quite humorous, considering she portrayed a “perfect relationship” with Carl, after we saw how brutal & emasculating she was toward him at night when they were in bed together after the lights went down, while she was a cruel toxic drunk, calling him brutal, evil names for no valid reason. It was a toxic relationship from the start, and quite honestly, he dodged a bullet with her. I hope she continues her therapy, and works thru her anger issues. Best of luck to both of them!

[@Megan-1234]

Yes! Of course she won’t talk about her part in the whole thing. She’s out for herself. She’s perfect of course. That’s why all the men she’s been with run! 🏃‍♂️

[@caitling94]

Incredibly toxic for someone in active recovery to be around someone like that. Clearly no regard for how her behavior, while also being under the influence, could trigger Carl & put his sobriety in jeopardy.

[@Futhi.Johnson]

Listening to this .there were problems..and it looks like they were taking a toll on Carl..not her

[@Megan-1234]

Yes!!! She’s a lot! How can ppl not see that who have watched the show in the past! So you can only be a cheerleader for your spouse if you’re a 1950s stepford wife?? She’s already seemed to be all about herself all these years.

[@anock03]

She also only referred to their relationship as "seasons". She had no real.life references it was all about the show.

[@AUDBALLS5252]

I work for westjet! It’s the same aviation rules. AC could have accommodated you. That’s terrible, I’m sorry that happened.

[@allalala714]

I love Lindsay. To me, she feels like the most honest and real person in all of reality television. She's so brutally honest! I feel for her, but all happens for the best!!!

[@dakotabutler8652]

As a fellow Canadian believe meeee I have my stories about Air Canada! It sucks and doesn’t make sense when people in ‘customer service’ positions don’t provide even the bare minimum.. butttt one question in opposition.. maybe I’m wrong.. but who doesn’t check in for a flight before they get to the airport?! 😬🤷🏽‍♀️

[@danyellgarcia2263]

Tbh I've watched both of them through the seasons and I was so beyond happy for this relationship! I felt it was gonna finally be Lindsay's time! I can't even imagine how she felt,none of us can unless we've been there! I'd love to hear Carl's side but truthfully we probably wouldn't even get the real story from sounds of it. It really seems like Carl should of sat down and had a real conversation with her, however I think Lindsay is such a powerful woman that it could be hard for her to really let down that wall and fully trust him, and I really think at the end of the day he felt inadequate in all aspects of life when it comes to the life Lindsay has built for herself. I think that she's such a powerful woman that men don't think they could ever live up to her standards, this is nothing against her, but I would say to maybe step away from being so hardcore with that. There are men out there that are willing to step up and be the man you want, but my husband told me one time men NEED TO BE NEEDED! I'll never forget the times when I was dating my husband he was opening the door for me, and still does to this day, and I told him hey I can do this myself, and he said hey let me do this It makes me feel good just let me, and it was at that point I finally said ok I'll let my guard down and let this man show me who he really is, he made me feel safe and at peace. Those are the 2 biggest things women need to remember being with a man, I love him to death but when I say peace and safe I mean that not only physically but mentally! I know this man has my back and I'll never take that for granted! Lindsay there is someone out there for you! And I truly believe you'll find a man that matches and loves everything you are! It seems like Carl really needs to dig deep inside and it really does appear that he masks his feelings and those conversations especially if you watch the show through out the years! Lindsay finally seemed like she was the woman to build him up! But he needs to figure it out! I'm so sorry for both of them I can't even imagine the heartache! I also want to say the friends she has, says so Incredibly much! I get down on myself sometimes and then look at the army I have behind me and that says so much about Lindsay, if she was such a bad person that she often gets portrayed to be, these incredible women wouldn't be there. I know she will find happiness, and this is just a very tough and hard learning curve!!

[@Chawk12]

Carl dodged a bullet!

[@isabellecaissie5529]

I feel bad that they were not nice to you😢 but I feel like having to check in 90 minutes before your flight (wether online or in person) is like standard practise that everyone knows. Maybe just in Canada idk but I feel like that’s common knowledge

[@courtneyhoover280]

It’s always been customary to me as a Canadian that if I’m flying international to get to the airport 2-3 hours before the flight depending on the time and day I’m flying. I’m also shocked since I fly out of Pearson so much that a first thing flight only took a few minutes to get through customs. I’ve nearly missed my flight because of customs with those early flights when I give myself 2+ hours.

[@MamaHen87_TheUncensoredVersion]

1:05:57 the fact Lindsey puts %110 in loving her partner and wanting it in return is bc she is a woman in search of unconditional love her mother never gave her, and it breaks my heart bc Lindsay is SOOO deserving of the grand gesture of love she gives

[@sh.boogies]

Anyone else catch that the "hypothetical" comment was highly suggested as NOT hypothetical? hahaha

[@sh.boogies]

Yeah they essentially confirm Carl has performance issues at the end. Woowwww.

[@Megan-1234]

It’s probably her! I’m sure he’s fine otherwise.

[@ola3rd]

They have people waiting to fly standby (mostly employees), so ur spot will be gone if you miss the cutoff. Always check in 24 hours before online!

[@iamheatheranne]

I would have had the conversations about careers, finances, and starting a family way before the end of the summer, before the wedding. I would have had those prior to getting engaged.

[@slesfitch]

The episode of Special Forces where they have to drive through gunfire and are told to “protect the principal” Nick is one of only 2 I think who pass the test, and I wonder if in his mind the principal was Natalie and baby.

[@juliahelm9893]

I have no idea who she or the show is. I’m sure lots of people do, but it would be nice to introduce the person and give a quick recap of the situation they are talking about!

[@KA-eu9sy]

Summer House

[@user-gf3zs2wr7o]

Air Canada- Same thing happened with me, they don’t let you check in after a certain time and I had to change flights, now I always check in from my phone before Air Canada sucks

[@ballerz016]

I agree Air Canada sucks. But also not checking in more than 90 minutes before an international flight and thinking you could check in your dog last minute… thats why you didn’t make your flight

[@Megan-1234]

But they’re reality stars and should get what they want. Even if that means violating company policy. Who cares if they get fired or in trouble as long as they got their way. 😂

[@kristenbarron1379]

Dating a man child is the most draining thing ever. I feel for Lindsay. People who walk away or stonewall when shit gets hard, been there done that.

[@lindsaymercier7618]

I already knew I liked nick vialls podcast but him bashing air Canada has me like … I love nick Viall… he is for the people

[@stoutie18]

Show starts at @37:00. You're welcome

[@kandykaye9981]

Thank you!

[@CecileH730]

Which country singer did Lindsay mention she was with at CMA awards?

[@sogiki]

Nick should take notes from his new young producer about how to ask shorter questions that have just as much punch.

[@MarieSanDiego09]

Wait she said she was blindsided and it came out of no where then she says the last two weeks she was blindsided in how he was not the same person and so it can’t be both. I feel sorry for Lindsay. This is such a tough time for any woman. She will find someone so much better !!!

[@smileandbreathe9693]

It's not okay for Nick & Lindsay to be lowkey shaming "performance issues" . It makes me uncomfy and is really disrespectful. I get that Nick is trying to "get the tea" but talking about intimacy issues is a boundary that shouldn't be up for grabs for gossip.

[@4inlovewithmusic]

Im not an experienced traveller, so someone please correct me if needed.. but isn’t it common knowledge that everyone MUST check-in for their flights, whether in person or online, otherwise there are no other options? Maybe I missed something in his story

[@hunterandolive2693]

Yes. Checking in is a requirement.

[@4inlovewithmusic]

So then what’s the issue? They should have checked-in lol

[@kassistuebing9301]

@@4inlovewithmusic They're just pissed off they didn't get special treatment and instead are choosing to blame this on Air Canada (which yes, they suck but not in this situation) and their "hatred" for her pregnancy (which this situation had zero to do with). It screams entitlement.

[@Megan-1234]

You missed that they’re famous in their eyes and everyone else should think so too and give them a free pass when they want one.

[@courtneyhoover280]

@@kassistuebing9301I’ve been waiting for air canadas comments on her pregnancy. The fact that none of this had to do with her pregnancy invalidates their story.

[@vanessacrystalconsciousnes7156]

Lindsey can say she was blindsided. Yes they were having issues but in no way was she expecting them to break up. Plenty of couples have issues and move past them. Also its her experience and perspective. Let people live. If she felt blindsided who are you to tell her, her experience of her breakup

[@aud7777]

She looks great.. and her outfit is super cute especially w that nail color boots and jewelry she does look and seem like she's doing well, always been a fan of hers.

[@jellyfish928]

I literally don’t understand the logic behind blaming an airline for not checking in for your flight on time… it’s the most basic thing and you’re upset that people won’t bend the rules for you? Is your ego that huge??

[@cathr08]

Airports and flying can be rough-the inefficiency 😅

[@Marcella1450]

Doesn’t surprise me at all he’s always shown he’s a commitment phobe

[@TB-sh9lf]

Same experience on Air Canada 🫤

[@allihead6292]

Overall team Lindsey but her story doesn’t add up. Can’t believe none of her 412 girl friends didn’t be honest with her about this coming. Actually, this interview explains why they didn’t, she’s a beast. She claims it was out of no where, etc. but then her stories talk about how from Sunday to Wednesday ish they had not spoke? They had been fighting for weeks about career potential and finances? Their whole relationship was Lindsey controlling him, she was realizing he wasn’t measuring up and the public attention wasn’t covering it up anymore and he realized she further decreased his confidence and reminded him he doesn’t measure up. Not meant to be, and Kyle knew this from the beginning.

[@Megan-1234]

Yup! Always makes everything look like the other person is the bad guy. She had no part in any of it. She’s the perfect woman. That’s why all the men are after her. Or wait, all the men have run from her. Maybe she’s the common denominator!! 🤔

[@jenniferm.7772]

@nickviall Do you know the name of that beautiful green wall color?

[@stephanieclare7986]

Haha I just got an for Canada during this video. Read the room KZbin ads. Not that you were shitting on Canada but still 😂

[@e1627]

I wish guests would make more eye contact with Natalie

[@Calvaire1]

She is not asking any questions 😢

[@laurendonais3787]

I have second hand embarrassment for Nick and Natalie’s Ken and Karen behavior. Their outrage about not being above the policy has their entitlement on full display.

[@tarenmiller4178]

I’m Canadian, and Air Canada is known for being assholes. It’s not like N&N missed the 90 min by much, sounds like they arrived at the check in counter on time and the staff member took her sweet time doing her thing and then refused to check them in. Plus the expectation for them to check in online is not well known for people who don’t fly AC regularly, and Natalie is pregnant!! There was no need for them to be turned away from check in. AC doesn’t give a fuuuuu….

[@heatheraggus7501]

I agree - their experience wasn't that bad. The service - sure I can absolutely believe that as I have flown Air Canada countless times and bad service is par for the course. But their inconvenience is minor in the grand scheme of things.

[@halitst1]

I thought I was the only one! I fly a lot and have only had the best experiences with check-ins. I have been late, too, and the check-in assistants have been wonderful to me. I don’t buy their story. They are leaving something out.

[@juliahelm9893]

Yes, they were told to come early and not only did they not do that, they were late 🤷‍♀️!! I would be annoyed too, but you have to acknowledge your part in it!

[@Megan-1234]

Agreed!

[@Jordan-Vanderloo]

As a Canadian. We get it. And we are sorry. Air Canada sucks

[@belindaheid8936]

have flown with air Canada from Vienna (AUT) to Toronto and I had a great experience. I also flew with them from Toronto to Miami and everything was fine.. If you wanna bash an airline, bash United Airlines or American airlines. (Btw I'm neither Canadian nor American)

[@kluceee33]

"he exiled himself" lmao genevieve

[@Blubealube]

Loved this interview. But can’t wait for them to find a better producer dynamic now that Ally isn’t on anymore. Amanda is great, but I think she needs a better counterpart

[@leahnorar]

What happened to Ali? I wasn’t a fan so I’m not sorry she’s gone

[@raw8565]

Too many questions though make people go crazy! It’s like how most people feel about their parents or mother asking too many questions. So i dont know maybe carl was at his breaking point.

[@MamaHen87_TheUncensoredVersion]

2:51 I appreciate how she never shoved her company down our throats on the show by trying to advertise or name drop

[@caitlinheraty3028]

this interview is so embarassing for her knowing what we know now

[@sarabecher434]

Is she not aware that this was all captured on film? Blindsided and ‘no indication’ after seeing the first episodes shows that she is living in a complete alternate reality.

[@luna-rm9ui]

Sorry but I believe Lindsay the way Carl acted with not being able to Simply communicate with Kyle about the way Kyle aggressively flipped out on Lindsay That season and Carl could not say anything to him not one simple word of communication

[@juliedowd242]

Rule NO 1: always check in online.

[@Calvaire1]

They couldn't because of the dog...

[@halitst1]

@@Calvaire1so then arrive extra early 🤷🏾

[@wsmcneal15]

I haven't once heard Lindsay take any personal accountabilty for her role in the breakdown of the relationship. I find it hard to believe someone could be blindsided by a breakup save for infidelity. What were the issues they were working through in therapy? It would have been nice to hear her say something to effect of we both had our issues and ultimately we weren't compatible.

[@KimG-br8uh]

You didn't listen, just say that. She literally said they were there for communication because there was trouble communicating on bigger issues.

[@Megan-1234]

And I’m sure if she said it it must be true then 😂

[@ktg3369]

She's not capable of taking accountability. Carl made the right decision.

[@brittanycampbell4507]

I wonder how this interview would have been different if it had taken place AFTER the season aired.

[@thankyou6610]

Where did she get those jeans ?!?

[@SydneyKong]

“First month was definitely violence” 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@TheTickledTutu]

11:29 is this the case as to why Nick doesn’t follow through with what he tells his followers?