SBA3 Brace Split Fix Upgrade | Wise Men Company

[@GearKnowHow]

Wise Men Company Split fix ► wisemencompany.com/sba3-splitfix/ SBA3 Brace in Black and FDE ► bit.ly/31Ttfd5

[@michaeljames6560]

When are you guys going to get more straps in stock ?

[@A-Defender-]

They make all kinds of plugs and shit to fix the split in an sba3 brace... This isnt the first and wont be the last either. Me personally, i love the product. I have one on my brace. Chances of me actually running into the ATF, very slim to nonexistent. To be sure they're not gonna pay me a visit because of a strap. That would be a sad bust. Lol. But who knows... anything can happen i suppose. Until then, I'll be doing what I do.

[@Redeemed_Team]

“Happens to hit your shoulder for some weird reason” 🤣😂 I love it!! Great video! Thanks for this!

[@boykinlp]

It kinda sucks that there is even a question about the legality of such a great product!

[@Basement_Operator]

boykinlp While I’m glad the product exists, it should’ve never had to. Abolish the ATF and NFA

[@jonathanyoung8109]

Yeah, a Cordura and Velcro strap makes it a felony...

[@abolishtheatfandrepealthen6014]

@@Basement_Operator agreed fully

[@BKTX]

Just got the WMC Split Fix. Your vid shows/explains it 100% better than the WMC video. Great job. Love this already. Much thicker strap and keeping the split in shape.

[@drewdward1]

Check out the newer SBA4 brace. I've had no problems with the split on mine.

[@HotwireMech96]

Most people don't like that one. It adds weight and bulk

[@mghegotagun]

I like the rigidity, but the qd point location for slings suck

[@StaleBearFarts]

Much better video than the companies. Thank you so much. It really is a great product though very well made You can tell it's of high quality.

[@michaelguzan950]

Much better than the Wise Men factory video; thanks!!

[@v.german11b]

I concur.

[@screwgle7914]

i love my sba4 and it doesnt have that problem. the feet of the split are wider and not as bendable. also it has more girth for better cheek weld. highly recommend!

[@andrelopez7589]

But it's heavy!! Isn't it?

[@A-Defender-]

Its all about the girth...

[@carlosdanger4648]

I made my own split fix a while ago I think it’s called electrical tape

[@salcidojosiah]

Just fold the flaps in and tighten the strap. I wouldn't add material. If you stuff a sock in the hole and ducktaped it you made a stock.

[@lionelhutz3142]

Great review and a much better how-to-install than the Wise Men Company video. Thanks for your to-the-point presentation! 👍

[@zjenji]

Just ordered it! Perfect fix while maintaining usability.

[@anthonyshepard9606]

Outstanding installation video. I received my strap today (6-5-2020) and install it with no problems thanks to your instructional video. I had seen your video previously before I order and received my Split Fit strap. May the 2nd Amendment be with US. 🐢🇺🇸🐢🇺🇸🐢🇺🇸🙂👍

[@robertnotni3668]

Much better explanation than even the manufacturer’s video lol

[@rememberussliberty1822]

So many bootlickers in the comments.

[@Drawde907]

1 drop of super glue , and tighten the stock strap . It's been Years without any issue. Would come apart easy if needed

[@Yasmuraz]

Oh you accidentally dropped glue on your brace? glad it was easy to take off.

[@rigsby556]

@Evocati why is it illegal to modify a brace ? what modifications are legal and which are not ?

[@Flyingdutchmin]

@@rigsby556 The ATF wont tell you. They don't even tell the companies making them what would make them illegal or not. The company just sends in a sample and the ATF either says its good or it's not and wont give any details on what makes it such.

[@drew6207]

@@Flyingdutchmin so this modification is ok then?

[@errolbarnes6682]

Before I even seen this video, I thought about just looping a velcro ban around the split, then it's easy to remove.

[@concernedpatriot.2221]

Great idea. Although people should do that at their own risk. I’m not. It’s perfectly clear about what happens when you modify an arm brace in any way shape or form.

[@nsmturbo5902]

I agree! People need to leave good enough alone, and quit giving the ATF reasons to ban things. If they want to modify braces don't publish it all over the web...

[@concernedpatriot.2221]

NSM TURBO exactly. Bunch of retards is what they are. If it wasn’t for arm braces, 90% of us wouldn’t have AR’s with short barrels. People are just stupid, Even in the firearms community. Everyone knows it’s highly illegal to modify a brace and why would we ( firearm community ) keep pushing the envelope. Like you said, don’t give them an excuse to ban it. Stupid is as stupid does

[@evskiicf3998]

NSM TURBO ATF shouldn’t even exist. It’s unconstitutional

[@nsmturbo5902]

@@evskiicf3998 I agree but that's not gonna happen...

[@concernedpatriot.2221]

Escanor Pride but they do ! You should run for the senate, get elected and propose a bill to disband the ATF. Otherwise, you, me and everyone else that doesn’t want to go to prison need to obey the law. Next time try to think of an intelligent answer.

[@toynazi]

I'm happy with the SBA3. Beats dealing with bunk ass laws with SBR's.

[@Evergreen1400]

If you have an Instagram account look up the account “tactical turtle” he sells a small 3D printed piece for the sba3 only $9 I believe I have one for mine and really dig it. There’s a few different “plugs” or “inserts” people 3D print for the sba3 but some of them are definitely not legal the piece that I have on the other hand is very small probably not illegal and pretty much unnoticeable.

[@Pappy7064]

@@Evergreen1400 Not noticeable until you posted this. LOL

[@Evergreen1400]

@@Pappy7064 lol it’s been 2 years since I seen this video so I don’t really remember what it was about but yeah that little 3D printed insert is very unnoticeable if you don’t know what to look for.

[@stephandelaney4097]

Just use black electric tape where the rubber meets and wrap around a few times. Quick inexpensive fix

[@toxicrelationshipchronicle7741]

Great tutorial, way better than the company sponsored one, thx.

[@privatecitizen5264]

I came here for the "you've modified that brace" comments, followed by the "I'm a tough guy, the ATF sucks, I'm gonna do it (but not really)" comments.

[@foxhound9285]

It’s just a strap. It’s not like it coats the bullets in anthrax or shoots rockets.

[@EquipaPatriot]

I use Gorilla Tape. Works well. Now, I'll be buying a Devoid Plug for my SBPDW brace.

[@mtnmikewalters7185]

My split fix is put a mag in the brace and rubber band the front of the mag

[@isaacguerrero155]

Does the sling you have just clip into that back hole in the brace or do i need something else to do that

[@GearKnowHow]

You'll need a QD Sling Adapter Loop > amzn.to/47nfCnz

[@GearKnowHow]

Yep@@isaacguerrero155

[@isaacguerrero155]

​@@GearKnowHowamazing bro got it in now

[@bigboi6024]

What did you have wrapped around the brace on the qd mounts? What’s the purpose?

[@dariusgordon2266]

I just straped my sba3 tightly. But now that I finally found this video I just might get one

[@v.german11b]

Outssstanding presentation!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I just ordered one.

[@lextalionis3754]

Excellent instructional video...much better than the company's.

[@ProtectiveDadPranks]

Just ordered mine! Great Video!

[@Mr.Killswitch]

Just asking for the atf to give you trouble..

[@rhettkendrick5972]

Everyone/All of us.....

[@let_freedom_ping]

Dude just fold the lips over each other and tighten it down. Its so much more solid

[@jizzlemack9927]

This. I assumed everybody knew that.

[@marcusj5322]

And legal, just sayin.

[@let_freedom_ping]

@@marcusj5322 yep, its not a modification of the brace

[@swarbrickjesse]

Thank you for this. Just did it, worked great. No extra stuff. And legal

[@JG54206]

Thanks. I’m gonna try this.

[@thewheeler231]

Any ideas how to get the rattling off the tube

[@tballstaedt7807]

Love the product what a splendid idea! Legal word of the day, "intent'. Federal Prosecutor: So Mr. Smith, why did you use the product known as the split fix on you arm brace? Mr. Smith better have a good federal attorney attorney and understand the 5th amendment.

[@newerest1]

Yeesh the amount of pussies in the gun community is scary. Talk about unjustified fear of the government, when putting a strap on a brace that comes with a strap is a 10 year guaranteed sentence where you will be raped.

[@Phut68]

Lunar Concepts makes them. Wise Men Company sells it for them. Lunar Concepts also makes other rad products.

[@robertfoote3255]

I made my own "fix".... Took a piece of black packaging foam and made a insert that fills the center opening....made it a touch larger so it tightens up on it with the arm strap...it is not attached in any way and can be readly pushed out..... It fills it in, is light weight, helps it keep it's shape, and is not a permanent modification to the brace... 🤠

[@rigsby556]

yes, I also had to make a "shape saver" due to the fear that something I paid money and federal taxes for would lose its structural integrity. . . . . .wink wink

[@InGratitudeIam]

There is a case on the books where that has been deemed to be a felony.

[@YorktownUSA]

So many fudds in the comments. It's like they ENJOY asking for permission.

[@JohnSmith-bd2re]

I’d rather ask permission then loose my rights possibly FOREVER... by taking bad advice for a KZbinr

[@YorktownUSA]

@@JohnSmith-bd2re THAT mentality is why we continuously lose our rights. We need to ban together and stand up.

[@junjun71898]

@@YorktownUSA hell yeah 🇺🇸

[@YorktownUSA]

@Josh Jones Well I know for a fact you aren't. Remember Bundy Ranch? See all these riots going on? It's possible bro, maybe not for you, but for the rest of us.

[@FASTPISTOLDRAW]

NO I JUST ENJOY NOT GOING TO JAIL .

[@bmargolisvideos]

Thanks, just ordered two.

[@RenaissanceThinking]

I hope you don't install those 2 on any pistols you plan on anyone seeing.

[@juanvaldez5422]

Palmetto has the sba3 for 99 free ship. Did have the 4s for same price but they gone, I think

[@sergeyy8846]

Does installing it constitute modifying it as per ATF? Original strap is too short to go around my forearm.

[@josephatnip2398]

Couple of drops of adhesive from a bicycle inner tube patch kit will also work no one's ever going to look at it that closely

[@nhrad]

So i have an sba3 on the way, should I return it for the a4? I think the 3 looks better, but the a4 is a lot sturdier. Thoughts?

[@dansig123]

Nick Hradisky I have the sba3 and put an upgraded Velcro strap from SB tactical on it. Much better than the flimsy factory one. I’ve never handled the sba4, but like the QD position and low profile of the 3, and it is plenty sturdy for me.

[@TheFacelessMan82]

Such a great and simple little design. Love it.

[@j.n.8745]

Received mine today in black multi 🤘

[@1stbloodstone]

What about the devoid plugs--wouldnt they work better?

[@nsmturbo5902]

Might as well just use a stock instead of the devoid plug

[@---tx9xx]

What optic are you using?

[@templeowls555]

Changing one Velcro strap for another doesn’t constitute a permanent modification to the brace.

[@thelastcopier]

Has anyone tried the Devoid plug V2.0? I guess because of legal reasons you might not want to try it without at least a 16” barrel because it looks like it was designed to shoulder the SBA3.

[@allenmckinney9533]

I've been thinking about trying a butt stock pad slipped over the brace if it fits that is.

[@Bearjew2995]

Ya I wouldn't do that if I were you. That's modifying the brace and you have an illegal SBR.

[@allenmckinney9533]

@@Bearjew2995 no the brace would still be 100% factory. A slip on recoil pad would just be added over top the end making it easier to shoulder it.

[@nsmturbo5902]

@@allenmckinney9533 that would be altering the brace...

[@irvan36mm]

The split never really bothered me at all. I just deal with it and move on. No mods or fancy fixes needed.

[@wanderfwd]

Question, I tried taking off my brace off of the buffertube by pulling the adjustment down but the brace itself wouldnt come off. Do I have to fully extend it or close it and then pull down?

[@drewdward1]

SJP You have to push down REALLY HARD on the adjustment lever to remove it from the buffer tube.

[@dbelex]

Pull harder.

[@wanderfwd]

@@drewdward1 I see, it just feels like i will break it. I will try harder thanks!

[@wanderfwd]

@@dbelex thank you, I will do that. It just felt like I would break it

[@motoriderguy3854]

SJP , I thought for a while that it didn’t come off but it does just pull down on the lever harder .

[@jfm562]

How has it held up? Wouldn’t electrical tape work just as well?

[@rockysingh3972]

Thanks brother, just put mine on today

[@just82much72]

Buddy just got one. Loves it....

[@davenielsen696]

Just a quick question. What about SB tactical's STRONG recommendation to NEVER, EVER modify their braces, as this would constitute an illegal modification to the brace in the eyes of the ATF?

[@Dexter-nw2fe]

Yes it would

[@BornRaisedInCSA]

For the same reason a warning is put on anything... to cover their ass.

[@NoTimeForThatNow]

Or, you could just get a short piece of velcro strap like the type sold for wiring organization and wrap it around the split. If you do it that way you could keep it stored with that piece of velcro on to maintain the shape of the brace without collapsing, and still easily remove the small piece of velcro to use the pistol brace.

[@il9861]

This is the way you should do it. Definitely illegal to have a brace that now dosent function as a brace. If anyone asks. Remove the extra Velcro and boom back to normal

[@aikasworld4373]

Is that not altering the pistol brace

[@RenaissanceThinking]

It is considered altering your brace.

[@emjartan45acp]

Yes...& asking for trouble.

[@steezy2007]

That’s just a solution looking for a problem. Also if ever there was a question of intent, then this is the answer.

[@Rc-Adventurers]

I put a spring at the end of my buffer tube. Now when I hit the release it snaps out to full extension.

[@MannyScoot]

The Stiffy by FACTR is amazing .....

[@jamespragerjr.9814]

Is that legal I didn’t think you were allowed to do any modifications to a pistol brace

[@Logaweed]

I wish they made something like this for the sba4. The strap itself is even much better than the one that comes with the braces.

[@billblasko1872]

Phase 5 does

[@ihatefords1000]

Sba4 is so much better and beefier it doesn't need the split fix

[@spoke1183]

Cut bicycle tire inner tube do desired size and insert both ends of brace in them. Simple more sturdy and cheaper then anything else on the market. And it can still function as a brace. Nothing modified.

[@RimfireAddicted70]

Great channel I just found today random searching videos on gear. Sub'd!!!

[@brandondane4777]

Where do u buy this at

[@joelatkinson2080]

Great video!!!

[@mid305]

What type of gloves is he wearing

[@TheMrec94]

Anyone ever caught charges for modifying a brace?

[@BlakeJoy]

Free Men don't ask for permission.

[@estellauwu6023]

@paul fryburg probably so you aren't questioned by fudds on the range

[@assfacetheclown29]

The atf doesn’t ask permission before killing your dog and burning you house down either

[@JohnOgren]

@@estellauwu6023 fuds don't have the right to see BATFE paperwork anyway, so... Be a free man and just make a SBR if thats the way you feel 🤷‍♂️

[@jasonward5898]

I think it's a remake and if you don't buy the brace with the strap already installed from the manufacturer the atf does not approve the design unless someone sends a letter and asks that's where I stand, I believe it constitutes as a remake of a brace witch is a no to the atf.

[@carpaccio2206]

yea I wouldn't buy it

[@vinnier6]

Yay for you...move on now

[@darkblue9863]

Agreed.

[@juanvaldez5422]

Will the alphabet bois potentially come at you if given chance for altering the brace?

[@robotech]

The brace has now been "modified." It's no longer a pistol. The strap just turned it into an SBR.

[@CB-ux5xc]

Exactly correct.

[@mustardman5366]

Negative...

[@ryan370]

Yeah but it hasn't been redesigned to fire from the shoulder. It just keeps the split closed while not in use

[@Sluggaboy27]

@@ryan370 umm hmm lol

[@ryan370]

@@Sluggaboy27 hahaha I mean in the legal sense, it has not been redesigned to be fired from the shoulder. If you add a rubber pad to the back of it, you are redesigning it to be more comfortable to shoot from the shoulder, so it is illegal

[@123s453e56a6l]

How do boots taste guys? A lot of you should know

[@colerainey7032]

Thank you! Super helpful

[@Civiliansoldier762]

The split fix is as much of a game changer as the sba3 is.

[@emjartan45acp]

Why is this so hard to understand for people. Any type of modification to the brace voids what it is intended for. I was told by SBT leave it as it is do not change ANYTHING!!!!!

[@ramboxlegacy14]

It’s his property, he paid for it so he can do whatever he wants to with it.

[@captaingnarlydavidson957]

Free men don't need permission! Hope that boot polish taste great!

[@royrodgersmcfreely2858]

@@captaingnarlydavidson957 tell that to every man that ran afoul of the BATFE and succumb to that mandatory ten year vacation at club fed. Behave how you want, but being vocal about your issues or posting videos of you commitng a felony does nothing but hurt the cause. Furthering the 2nd amendment is of course the ultimate goal, but blatantly giving the tyrants more ammunition will quickly turn this into an all out war, one that the wrong side is sure to use to slander all of us, and rewrite our civil liberties as they see fit. They already started this over a cough, think what they'll do when they find out there's a massive rift of fun owners who intentionally violate the NFA.

[@JohnOgren]

If free men don't need permission then just put a fucking stock on it 🙄

[@newerest1]

@@royrodgersmcfreely2858 lol no one has ever gotten a 10 year sentence for an SBR without there being other crimes involved

[@kainlestad]

How legal is this?

[@sublimetulii23]

Ask yourself, is using a knife to open boxes make the knife a box cutter? No, it does not. Does shooting my gun from the hip change what the gun is or does? No, it does not. Using an object for unintended purposes or in ways that it’s not meant to be used in a certain matter doesn’t change what the object still is. I don’t care what anyone says (ATF, DOJ, etc.) this strap doesn’t change what a brace is. Use your brain & logic because our overlords don’t.

[@gunsrus777]

Another video shouldering this Arm Brace. HEY ATF I CAN USE THIS AS A BUTSTOCK!!!!!👀

[@mustardman5366]

Looks like a zip tie would work just as well

[@drew6207]

This is completely legal correct?

[@drew6207]

I found out this is not legal, you can not customize or configure the AR pistol Brace. If you want to you need a tax stamp then you can put any kind of brace on your AR pistol and do what ever you want with it.

[@RenaissanceThinking]

If you install this strap, know that you may be seen as modifying your brace! Use your head.

[@YorktownUSA]

Found the Fudd 🙄

[@jk2142k4]

My strap don’t cover my velcro. Don’t know where I went wrong.

[@chucksterlicious]

John Knoxville SB Tactical sells longer straps. Do you have Popeye forearms? Yuck yuck yuck...toot toot!

[@jk2142k4]

Chuck Sellers Lol!! I’m talking about when you have it on the brace. It doesn’t go all the way around it.

[@AlphaRomeoOneFive]

Pretty nifty, thanks for sharing

[@martinrps13]

Looks decent but I just 3d printed an insert and all is good

[@AVH8TOR]

The only problem you have is posting on a public comment section that you modified a pistol brace.

[@InGratitudeIam]

The Ohio case that is referred to in the comments was based on the length of the cheek rest that had a rubber tip attached so that the pistol would stay upright in the defendant's safe. The BATFE's action against the defendant failed for three reasons. First, BATFE did not make the requirement of a pistol brace not exceeding 13.5" known to the general public. Second, the BATFE measured the defendant's brace improperly, arriving at a 13.75" length which is a violation. However, when measured according to BATFE regulations, the brace came in at exactly 13.5" in length with the rubber tip attached. Third, the defendant did not know that his adding a rubber tip to the end of the brace was a violation and it did not alter the way in which the brace performed while firing the pistol. The Ohio case has nothing to do with the "Wise" Company's device. Checking their site reveals no determination from BATFE. There is an admonition posted on Wise Company's site to follow all local and federal laws. How convenient. So, while it's legal for WC to manufacture this strap, it may or may not be a felony for you to substitute your OEM strap with WC's strap. Let that sink in. Just because a company can legally make a device does not mean that it can be used in accordance with the law. Manufacturing and consumption are two distinct areas of the law. Why WC won't post a determination letter from BATFE is not clear, unless it's because the BATFE has determined that their strap, once attached to a brace, is a violation of federal law. One would think that if it were okay with BATFE, WC would let everyone know. Instead, you are given only a warning to abide by all applicable laws. Bottom line, do not rely on the Ohio case in regards to the legality of using of the Wise Company's Split Fix device.

[@Rayvisin]

I just put a spare magazine on there and tighten it down

[@greoricm771]

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[@newerest1]

that's the best idea actually.

[@Rayvisin]

@@newerest1 yah it works well. Use a pmag with the pmag dust cover. Works well

[@tf2529]

Thank you very much!!

[@danlauer9676]

It's hard to say if the ATF will consider this a "modification of the brace" to have more "shoulder support". Maybe, maybe not. I mean, really, the new strap doesn't change your ability to use the SBA3 as an arm brace. Still, I'm a little hesitant to install one myself until the company gets a confirmation letter from the ATF. Edit: I'm bookmarking the website in case the ATF takes a "who cares" attitude. The ATF did lose that case in Ohio regarding the guy who "modified" his brace. I'm guessing a good lawyer could keep you out of federal prison. Not sure I would want to go through the hassle of a court case, though. Still, the product itself seems great.

[@joenguyen7571]

Thanks Bro.

[@POPJack1717]

Has that been deemed legal?

[@dallas5374]

G P why don’t you contact the ATF........

[@gregorypruitt5068]

@@dallas5374 I am asking the person who posted the video. Is that a problem for you or something?

[@greoricm771]

@@dallas5374 Absolutely do NOT go inquiring and give anyone a good idea fairy to ban pistol braces. Thanks.

[@RenaissanceThinking]

It is safe to say the strap is legal....but once you install it on your brace you have now altered your brace which according to the most current BS any of us can find from the BATF, is totally ILLEGAL.

[@jonathanyoung8109]

Gun owners are the worst at calling each other out for shit. Damn guys, nobody should care what we do with our guns.

[@AsronPhotography]

Is it still legal like this? I just ordered an sba3 and want to have it be it’s best.

[@GearKnowHow]

Yes as far as I can tell because you're not permanently changing the brace

[@MatthewFant]

As awesome as this is, I’m very apprehensive about modifying anything about a pistol brace. Seems like a recipe for disaster.

[@wwclay86]

@@MatthewFant it's a legal product.. if it wasn't, ATF would have it banned...

[@CASTRO45ACP]

@@wwclay86 That's not true, plugs for braces are still being sold, they said two years ago they're not legal sooooooo......

[@wwclay86]

@@CASTRO45ACP they changed the ruling on braces... It's ok

[@MortgageEasy]

This is fantastic! If you all like this please watch his other video on how to make your ar15 fully auto with only a paper clip.

[@03yootube2007]

I thought you cannot modify SBA3 brace?

[@dankelly]

You need to pull it REALLY tight. It'll make it a lot stiffer.

[@dustinfehr3466]

Been looking for something like this. Good looking out!

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

This is why I use Tailhooks or Shockwave blades. No silly velcro straps, no big black rubber baby buggy bumpers...

[@noahmcguire8195]

Use a stock like a real man

[@Sluggaboy27]

@@noahmcguire8195 NFA...

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

@@noahmcguire8195 Not today, Fed!😎

[@chrispoole8630]

Shockwave= shoulder splitter

[@muffemod]

5 min DIY mod with a sewing machine and scissors

[@GiancarloFloyd]

Pass! Seems to me that your modifying that brace.

[@rufian2630]

Or you could just buy a short strip of velcro for a couple bucks and wrap around the split.

[@KiLLJOY1056]

Doesnt the split fix completely take away the meaning of having a forearm brace? Why not just buy a stock if youre only gonna shoulder it?

[@prawnstar502]

awesome!