Gearless Magnetic Transmission - You Can't Break These Gears

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Retsetman

Retsetman

Күн бұрын

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@dominomon7117
@dominomon7117 Жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: neodymium magnets are not indestructible, the heat generated in the eddy curent destroys them
@1495978707
@1495978707 Жыл бұрын
If you care to eliminate this, replace the large magnets with many small magnets separated by thin insulating films. Same thing is done in transformers to limit power transmission losses
@madtscientist8853
@madtscientist8853 Жыл бұрын
You know, that's actually a good thing to know When using magnets in any project I never would have thought about that, but that's actually a very valid idea
@spr00sem00se
@spr00sem00se Жыл бұрын
Try mounting magnets with hot glue. Then wondering why Hall sensors don't work anymore.
@tomascancelliere4348
@tomascancelliere4348 Жыл бұрын
Heat above its working temp will lower the magnetic properties but you can get upwards of 100+c for N grade magnets. The shape and dimensions of a magnet play an important role in its working temperature, a high permeance coefficient will help combat heat degradation
@christopherd.winnan8701
@christopherd.winnan8701 Жыл бұрын
@@tomascancelliere4348 What other kinds of geometric shapes are available? Any that might specifically improve performance?
@martin-vv9lf
@martin-vv9lf Жыл бұрын
If you wish to avoid the frictional heating of the rotor bearings, you can use two nested bearings. in theory the bearing with less mechanical advantage will be driven faster than the other bearing, but if the two bearings are magnetically geared together in a two to one ratio, then the load is equally shared, and the theoretical top speed is doubled, before the bearings become too hot.
@ashlionell
@ashlionell Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome idea and such an underrated comment!
@getl0st
@getl0st Жыл бұрын
Maybe replace the bearings with Magnetic Bearings
@johntracy1691
@johntracy1691 Жыл бұрын
You can use diamond bearings from US signetics. They withstand high heat and pressure
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 Жыл бұрын
the rotor itself can be part of passive cooling, if made of aluminium, finlets along the rim and slots
@radosawrudolf4931
@radosawrudolf4931 Жыл бұрын
@@getl0st That would introduce way too much eddy current, probably overheating the bearings and demagnetizing them way quicker than mechanical ones.
@leanngudmundson3577
@leanngudmundson3577 8 ай бұрын
The way that you made the magnetic gear reduction is GENIUS!
@tomascancelliere4348
@tomascancelliere4348 Жыл бұрын
If you add thin steel behind each magnet, you can nearly double the pull strength. This is an awesome video btw!!
@brandonsmoot4056
@brandonsmoot4056 Жыл бұрын
Or hallbach array shape
@74KU
@74KU Жыл бұрын
still doesn't fix all the drawbacks to make it actually worth using over existing linkages, otherwise it would be.
@brandonsmoot4056
@brandonsmoot4056 Жыл бұрын
@74KU it's useful in extreme applications
@torinireland6526
@torinireland6526 Жыл бұрын
​@@74KU There are things you can do with magnetic linkages that you simply cannot do with a mechanical ones. One example: transmitting torque through a solid, unbroken sheet of metal. Could be super useful for ultra-high-pressure, high-reliability, and/or hazardous substances applications, where traditional shaft seals can't handle the pressure or where you cannot afford to have any leakage whatsoever under any circumstances. Niche applications like that can still be extremely important.
@camb06
@camb06 Жыл бұрын
Ooh, I need to know more about this configuration for an iPad mount application. I’m worried my magnets will have too big of a gap (~2.5 mm) and will lose too much of their pull to be effective. By “behind” I’m understanding that to mean the far side from the other magnet, correct?
@rasmnick
@rasmnick Жыл бұрын
If you place a high permeability metal on the outside faces to couple the magnets together you should be able to almost double the flux inside the gearbox. Inspect how cabinet door latches or speaker voice coil magnets are arranged with metal plates to focus the magnetic flux.
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 Жыл бұрын
You mean the back iron? You'll probably see them in the optimised version.
@kingarthurthe5th
@kingarthurthe5th Жыл бұрын
@@retsetman9698have you considered 3d printing some parts with filament which has iron powder mixed into it?
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 Жыл бұрын
@@kingarthurthe5th I had completely forgotten about it until you said it, I'll see if I can use it.
@HollowVortex
@HollowVortex Жыл бұрын
Look up halbach arrays
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
Wahhhhhh this is some cool stuff! Thank you for this comment! :)
@lmwlmw4468
@lmwlmw4468 Жыл бұрын
You should use self tightening nuts, that way the vibration will not unscrew the tightening screws. Great video.
@joshuacaylor881
@joshuacaylor881 Жыл бұрын
Or blue loctite
@vipvip-tf9rw
@vipvip-tf9rw Жыл бұрын
@@joshuacaylor881or counter clockwise thread, like in many applications of this type
@ProDMiner
@ProDMiner Жыл бұрын
thats how bike pedals stay on :), love reverse thread stuff, but I see stuff backwards so when looking at threads, it takes me forever to see if its LH, or RH lol.@@vipvip-tf9rw
@NVMDSTEvil
@NVMDSTEvil Жыл бұрын
stover nuts would work best.
@_..-.._..-.._
@_..-.._..-.._ Жыл бұрын
Self what?
@blacklistnr1
@blacklistnr1 Жыл бұрын
Some audio feedback: Your voice has a stronger low-end than its high-end, but you articulate your words with mainly the high-end, this makes for a more difficult listening experience. I suggest an EQ to cut the low mids, boost the high mids and maybe also play around with the highs to make it sound less nasal. If this is also how you sound without a mic, you might to play with how/where you articulate your words to better engage live audiences. That's all, I hope it's helpful!
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, thank you so much, I will pay attention to that.
@DuckPerc
@DuckPerc Жыл бұрын
@@retsetman9698 I'd say a basic de-esser, low shelf, and compressor would be ideal, if you're into that kind of thing. Otherwise, put a thick cloth/foam over your microphone, and record a bit closer to it, facing your breath away from it. Awesome video btw :D I didn't think the audio was distracting at all, personally. I hadn't seen how magnetic gearing works before, and it seems very elegant.
@googleyoutubechannel8554
@googleyoutubechannel8554 Жыл бұрын
Of all the magnetic gearbox videos on youtube, this is one of them!
@nickkaarslev290
@nickkaarslev290 10 ай бұрын
it really is!
@kbwaldron
@kbwaldron 6 ай бұрын
Profound
@UNIMPEEDED
@UNIMPEEDED Жыл бұрын
Did anyone else see the nuts cycle through loosening then tightening over & over? Would love to see the forces pulsating back & forth to do that. Great vid & love the outside box thinking. Cheers.
@sas9454
@sas9454 6 ай бұрын
I saw that too
@amzarnacht6710
@amzarnacht6710 4 ай бұрын
Should've been using brass fittings rather than cheaper steel. And either lock washers or lock nuts. A certain amount of flex is wanted, though. Too much rigidity is why the magnets went flying at the beginning of the video... with utterly no safety shield around high speed rotating disks...
@FPSG
@FPSG Жыл бұрын
Very neat idea for low torque applications. There is a limit to how strong this can be with permanent magnets.
@MR-backup
@MR-backup Жыл бұрын
Torque was my first idea as well.
@EldeNice
@EldeNice Жыл бұрын
Yeah, anything too strong will make them slip like cartoon characters on a banana peel. Also LOL at "You can't break these gears".
@Blox117
@Blox117 Жыл бұрын
@@EldeNice they wont break when a load is applied, its true
@connorbalog5871
@connorbalog5871 10 ай бұрын
Could be interesting in machining
@Obamaistoast2012
@Obamaistoast2012 Жыл бұрын
This concept was actually built in 1918 it was sold as the transmission you didn't need to shift, Stahl auto museum has one in Michigan
@Autarke
@Autarke 9 ай бұрын
Why it's not used in cars?
@pihermoso11
@pihermoso11 9 ай бұрын
​@@Autarkethe transfer of torque is probably less than current mechanical systems, otherwise we'd be using it now, the advantage is there's no need for a clutch plate, if they can develop more powerful magnets that could connect the engine to the transmission like a normal one without the loss of torque, then it's the future
@ryancampbell8416
@ryancampbell8416 4 ай бұрын
@@pihermoso11 electromagnets are more powerful but then you've invented the electric car so we're already kinda there
@danr.5017
@danr.5017 Ай бұрын
High heat kills permenant magnets.​ The friction just kills this. Its neat and a great physics demo just not practical. @@Autarke
@phoenixfireclusterbomb
@phoenixfireclusterbomb 24 күн бұрын
@@danr.5017 Iron is so abundant on Earth. Can’t ya! simply change out the magnets after so many miles or get them recharged.
@TilDrill
@TilDrill Жыл бұрын
1:30 "just like your mother"
@phoenixfireclusterbomb
@phoenixfireclusterbomb 24 күн бұрын
Lol, that made me laugh.
@oryxchannel
@oryxchannel 10 ай бұрын
very generous and open heart in your patience and your delivery. refreshing scientist-tinkerer channel. and you saved the best for very last.
@westerncivilization
@westerncivilization 9 ай бұрын
how does it respond to a load?
@YouTubeAreCommunistScum
@YouTubeAreCommunistScum 3 ай бұрын
With an open mouth
@jumpgrass71
@jumpgrass71 2 ай бұрын
Like my sister
@Essex121514
@Essex121514 Ай бұрын
​@@jumpgrass71WTF!?!?
@eng3d
@eng3d Ай бұрын
5:04
@paulrob86
@paulrob86 Жыл бұрын
Have a look at particle clutches. They have two cup shaped ends the the in and output shafts, one cup sits inside the other. A soft iron powder is placed inside the cups. There is then a coil that wraps around the outside of both cups, vary the current on the coil which then varies the drive torque through the coupling. They also allow for slip if the torque level is required is exceeded.
@markiobook8639
@markiobook8639 Жыл бұрын
There are no such thing as "particle clutches" you are talking about the 1900's electromagnetic clutch with a syncromesh. Syncromesh which uses bronze pre-load conical bearings to take the initial force from the driven gear to the selected gear on the gear drive- enabling smooth shifting and far less stress on gears- enabling quieter, smoother herringbone teeth, vs straight cut teeth. Not new.
@BarneyDesmond
@BarneyDesmond Жыл бұрын
Not saying you're wrong, but Wikipedia shows me Magnetic Particle Clutch, which is "a special type of electromagnetic clutch" and does indeed have "a fine powder of magnetically susceptible material to mechanically link ... a disc on one shaft to a rotor attached to the other shaft".
@maxc4737
@maxc4737 Жыл бұрын
This absolutely so cool and amazing, please keep going with this concept. I love it so much. I wanna see this used in car or other applications.
@peterduxbury927
@peterduxbury927 Жыл бұрын
This idea is old. An American Car (built in the 1950's) had a Magnetic Transmission. Sorry, but I cannot remember the make of car.
@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 Жыл бұрын
@@peterduxbury927it was the Owen Magnetic, made around the time of the First World War. Jay Leno has one.
@peterduxbury927
@peterduxbury927 Жыл бұрын
@@chrishenniker5944 YES! Thanks for that. I knew that I had seen this somewhere. It is old technology that didn't take off due to inefficiency.
@DashzRight
@DashzRight Жыл бұрын
It will never be used for any practical applications, this is just useless, but all these videos are full of engineer wannabes calling any old and useless tech “revolutionary”. “Stirling engines are the future!” “Tesla towers will power the world!!!” 🥴 🥴
@porkchopspapi5757
@porkchopspapi5757 Жыл бұрын
Its an old idea that couldn't do any actual work then, just like it can't now.
@stickyfox
@stickyfox Жыл бұрын
There is not so much friction, but I bet there's hysteresis and eddy current loss, especially when the drivetrain is loaded. I'd love to see a quantitative comparison between a gearbox.
@luca94430
@luca94430 Жыл бұрын
A geared gearbox of this size can pull a car at least
@stickyfox
@stickyfox Жыл бұрын
@davidgfbrMaybe, but I would need a couple more pieces of data to say whether or not agree with you. The phenomena I mentioned are velocity-dependent like friction, but not linear like friction.
@briankale5977
@briankale5977 10 ай бұрын
F1 or Lemans would already be using this if it was actually useful irl.
@jamescrud
@jamescrud 9 ай бұрын
​@@briankale5977this cannot transmit any meaningfull amount of torque so it's pretty much useless in the real world.
@markiobook8639
@markiobook8639 Жыл бұрын
No- this will not work when you get to serious torque figures it will not be able to cope. This has been thought of before- and before both of us were alive. It is the basis of the fluid coupling alias the torque converter- which itself is based from Parson's steam turbine driving sympathetically rotating generator via the working fluid of dry steam, no parts touching (and similarly Rover's JETONE turbine car 1948)
@samueladitya1729
@samueladitya1729 25 күн бұрын
yeah, we even have created the better thing, but it uses electromagnetic instead called axial flux motor, and if we use it as a transmission then it will become a hybrid car.
@damocles7230
@damocles7230 Жыл бұрын
I was playing with this idea 40 years ago, glad you made it right , you got it is just a mater of the right metal to mass produce, congratulations.
@FineBakedPastry
@FineBakedPastry 4 ай бұрын
There was still too much space between magnets. Get them to be almost touching, separated by the thickness of a sheet of paper.
@rjkunzli
@rjkunzli Жыл бұрын
i used one of these on my capstone project for mechanical engineering technology. My team and I built a velocity head hydro-turbine but found rotary shaft seals difficult for the generator which was under water (an connected to the turbine). Solved all our problems and worked great!
@markiobook8639
@markiobook8639 Жыл бұрын
Obviously your university has less than stringent standards- why on earth would you have an immersed generator- how the hell is that 1 supposed to function, 2 be maintained?
@civilez7060
@civilez7060 Жыл бұрын
​@@markiobook8639underwater currents? Just like we maintain underwater pipes and oil infrastructure?
@celebrityrog
@celebrityrog 9 ай бұрын
Gearless Magnetic Transmission - You Can't Break These Gears **PROCEEDS TO BREAK GEARS** This was actually pretty cool.
@ProDMiner
@ProDMiner Жыл бұрын
I seriously love science, this is the coolest stuff ever. Need one of these for a electric mtb transmission.
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 Жыл бұрын
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@Berkana
@Berkana Жыл бұрын
Have you considered using a Halbach array for the magnet array? Halbach arrays double the field strength on one side of the array and cancel it out on the other. Supposedly they are perfect for applications like this, but they require more magnets.
@CNe7532294
@CNe7532294 Жыл бұрын
4:10 The vibrations from the assembly caused the nut securing the case to fall into it. Go back to 3:15 to see the nut and screw just vibrate loose. Could try a bit of hot glue or school glue to hold it for a bit. Easy to remove when changing things around.
@mpmanagement8539
@mpmanagement8539 Жыл бұрын
subscribed and cant wait to work with magnetic gears
@Ulrigh
@Ulrigh Жыл бұрын
Ok I suscribed. N52 magnets GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
Just did before this comment :)
@dougriedweg9002
@dougriedweg9002 Жыл бұрын
Great job as a retired mechanic I love the way you approach gear reduction
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant!
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Cody!!!!
@sli-fox
@sli-fox Жыл бұрын
Very cool! A more advance setup would be to alter the polarity electrically to get whatever gear ratio you want. Very nice!
@WilliamDiotte
@WilliamDiotte Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but he would need to change his setup to make the center piece rotate to incorporate electromagnets in his design
@pmj_studio4065
@pmj_studio4065 Жыл бұрын
That would basically be an electric motor xD
@Propidium-Iodide
@Propidium-Iodide 10 ай бұрын
as an alternative magnets on the secondary wheel could be rotated physically in the slot
@hd-be7di
@hd-be7di Жыл бұрын
It also has the torque of a 90 year old grandmother with osteoporosis that's why it's not widely adopted.
@bobdebouwer7835
@bobdebouwer7835 9 ай бұрын
This is the most important question to start with, why isn't it already adopted. Makes such videos obsolete.
@hd-be7di
@hd-be7di 9 ай бұрын
@@bobdebouwer7835 Many of these videos are made for clicks and views, not for the actual information they provide.
@luimackjohnson302
@luimackjohnson302 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant! Thank you Retsetman for sharing this video on Magnetic Transmission. Greetings from Madang, Papua new Guinea!
@jmtx.
@jmtx. Жыл бұрын
Awesome investigation of magnetic forces!
@TitaniumDR1
@TitaniumDR1 Жыл бұрын
If this was viable on a commercial scale it would have been done a long time ago. It's an obvious solution.
@jafinch78
@jafinch78 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work as expected! Keep it up and thanks for sharing!
@enginbilgi
@enginbilgi 8 ай бұрын
Actually it has very short lifespan. Heat demagnetize magnets quickly.
@fire17102
@fire17102 Жыл бұрын
It's really beautiful work ! Subscribed! Please consider making the design easly to stack a few of those in series. Also would love to see you add some coils like Robbert Murrey does and make a diy/emergency generator, preferably in gravity-light style, where the system should be stack a few layers to achieve higher loads and max torque , so a heavy weights can out strung high from the ceiling, with big reduction, providing more watt and also a slow and long decent so the cycle time is as large as possible, and therefore the most watt-hours between every pull up and reset of the weight. Thanks a lot and all the best !
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 Жыл бұрын
all of what you said are great video ideas and definitely worth a try. Thank you so much for the good wishes
@christopherd.winnan8701
@christopherd.winnan8701 Жыл бұрын
That what also be very good for slowly turning a large solar array. Have you made any estimates for this kind of thing?
@fire17102
@fire17102 Жыл бұрын
@@retsetman9698thanks for responding :) let me know if any of what I suggested stayed with you.. really hope to see it happen 💜
@BonesyTucson
@BonesyTucson Жыл бұрын
Very cool! I never would have guessed the interactions between the groups and number of magnets in the group like that.
@jesuslozano5074
@jesuslozano5074 Жыл бұрын
This kind of motors/transmission is very common in industrial applications
@JohnTaylorFPV
@JohnTaylorFPV Жыл бұрын
amazing stuff. makes me wonder just how difficult it would be to do this with electromagnets. then the torque could be varied and possibly have a device that works as both a clutch and gearbox. triggers a bunch of other ideas in my head. good work!
@call_me_mado5987
@call_me_mado5987 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but that's be real expensive and complicated, at that point it wouldn't be worth it. Only expensive cars would go for something like that, but a practical reasonably affordable car wouldn't have it.
@raymondreiff8170
@raymondreiff8170 Жыл бұрын
All real Cars are expensive
@fulconandroadcone9488
@fulconandroadcone9488 Жыл бұрын
I think that would be called electric motor.
@retrobreutje
@retrobreutje Жыл бұрын
@@fulconandroadcone9488 Indeed. Prius had that for more than 2 decades!
@JohnTaylorFPV
@JohnTaylorFPV Жыл бұрын
@@fulconandroadcone9488 umm not really smarta$$.. what i'm thinking of wouldnt provide the drive power itself, would work as i said, as both a clutch and gearbox for another source of drive power. the torque it allows through could be varied. maybe more of a variable torque limiter
@JasonDarbee
@JasonDarbee 2 ай бұрын
Dude.. The toys you had growing up were so much better than mine. I just had a Light Brite and some Cooties 😓
@colsanjaybajpai5747
@colsanjaybajpai5747 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful. Very methodically done
@joshuacaylor881
@joshuacaylor881 Жыл бұрын
You are going to do big things my friend. Excellent work
@atemoc
@atemoc Жыл бұрын
This is insanely cool, and to think that I could do that at home with what I have makes me really happy inside, even though I won't try it any time soon. Keep up the amazing work!
@skyentist27
@skyentist27 Жыл бұрын
I frikkin love your videos!
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын
I think this is really incredible engineering! My advice to you is that the space between the magnets should be decreased ... probably almost touching when "hot" so that if it gets hot, it doesn't stall. You will probably need a better material to handle those tolerances. But, I think the improvement in torque will be much better if the space is decreased even further. Could you explain just a little more about how you managed to "smooth" the cogging effect?
@peterduxbury927
@peterduxbury927 Жыл бұрын
If this concept does any serious work, it will get very hot.
@marcfruchtman9473
@marcfruchtman9473 Жыл бұрын
@@peterduxbury927 Hmm, hard to say for sure how much heat tho. I am definitely interested in more tests!
@peterduxbury927
@peterduxbury927 Жыл бұрын
@@marcfruchtman9473 I have had past experiences with this transmission. On a very powerful 37kW Unit, the temps approached 450C, and were capable of warping the components. There is also a huge loss in efficiency.
@Nazmulsaidi
@Nazmulsaidi Жыл бұрын
@@peterduxbury927 i have seen pumps with magnetic coupling, because of one single magnet unit it does not produce much heat, when many magnets and have slippage the heat is very high.
@HowardMatthews-mu5ub
@HowardMatthews-mu5ub 5 ай бұрын
This could be a great way to pass torque into or out of a hermetically sealed enclosure. This is very cool: well done, and thanks :)
@jallark9041
@jallark9041 11 ай бұрын
There is a SEVERE risk of slippage in any magnetic coupling undergoing high amounts of torque
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow Жыл бұрын
interesting idea though i think that the amount of torq transfered will be reduced a lot , you can stop the drive and the drivemotor will only be loaded down not stopped like with gears
@roach1628
@roach1628 Жыл бұрын
I really wonder how much better this could be with non 3D printed/higher quality parts. I noticed a lot of wobble at high speeds and I bet that better manufactoring methods could let you drastically decrease the air gap and unwanted vibrations at high rpm. Maybe larger iron pieces too.
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 Жыл бұрын
I wonder about that too, though it's obviously going to get a lot better. Hopefully I will make a new one with metal parts soon.
@MichaelMurray-w6f
@MichaelMurray-w6f Жыл бұрын
Adding iron or steel discs/plates could play havoc magnetic fields, all metals/alloys suffer from a degree eddy current effect but ferris more so .
@herrlau1123
@herrlau1123 Жыл бұрын
I can see screws turning loose (3:20 min) while turning under high speed/power. Thank you for the presentation.
@killsalot78
@killsalot78 Жыл бұрын
very awesome how much the gearbox has progressed, n52 magnets will be a serious upgrade. And also what if you add a third layer of magnets on the back as well?
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 Жыл бұрын
adding magnets will of course increase the torque, but at some point you will have to consider the weight.
@killsalot78
@killsalot78 Жыл бұрын
@@retsetman9698 true but maybe weight can also be useful? ala flywheel effect
@gtmoyo
@gtmoyo Жыл бұрын
Why would you use this instead of an electric motor?
@chogardjr.
@chogardjr. Жыл бұрын
I know it would be astronomically more difficult with the tools you have but if you could figure out a maglev bearing to replace those standard ball bearings the results would be very interesting
@markiobook8639
@markiobook8639 Жыл бұрын
maglev bearings will only tolerate certain weights, they will not tolerate serious working condition loads. Even air bearings have their limitations.
@WhatTrigger
@WhatTrigger Жыл бұрын
@@markiobook8639 Might want to look into these large commercial flywheel batteries then. Spinning massive weights between 10k -100k rpm If this isn't serious workload what is? Different form of maglev bearing is the high speed trains.
@markiobook8639
@markiobook8639 Жыл бұрын
MagLev is not a bearing. It's a form of propulsion. If you are unable to comprehend that and that it requires far more energy than a conventional high-speed French TGV or ICE and the Germans' ICE being pioneers of air bearings and magnetic bearings- were forced virtue of forces involved use conventional needle bearings, then basic engineering is beyond you. Secondly flywheels are not massive if they rotate at 100k rpm- that defies near all known materials shear strength- they are instead tall and cylindrical- thus if Torque= FxD D is deliberately kept short. High speed is to offset flywheel lack of torque as torque is a function of speed and speed a function of torque hence F1 engines rev enormously high rpm with very short stroke and larger bore.@@WhatTrigger
@Elimino_P
@Elimino_P Жыл бұрын
Neat model, but my take-away here is the magical film that can see magnetism.
@Tletna
@Tletna Жыл бұрын
That looks like a fun project. Interesting measurements of the forces after certain changes were in the video. As a side note or two: I wish people would stop treating permanent magnets like they're actually permanent. Also, the title says you cannot break these gears, but the video shows sparks and magnets flying off. Might want to redesign the housing for the magnets so they cannot possibly fly off.
@je_k1247
@je_k1247 Жыл бұрын
how much more expensive would you say it is comparired to other transmition ?
@karyjas1
@karyjas1 Жыл бұрын
Another new high quality channel, glad i have subscribed. If you were to make any more improvements, trying out lots of designs and doing research, its a delight to watch
@crisgriffin3042
@crisgriffin3042 Жыл бұрын
Actually nice concept for low power devices, like bikes, scooters, electric drones, large toys.
@thebigcaesas
@thebigcaesas Жыл бұрын
Physicists: magnetic forces can do no work because they're always applied perpendicular to the velocity vector as described by Lorentz This guy: hold my beer
@MrBaldypete1
@MrBaldypete1 10 ай бұрын
This was a pretty damn cool project to watch.
@EpicATrain
@EpicATrain Жыл бұрын
I wonder... can you use powerful small electromagnets in place of the permanent magnets?
@kyakarot
@kyakarot 7 ай бұрын
so many back seat engineers and nothing to show..great video sir. keep em coming.
@luisderivas6005
@luisderivas6005 10 ай бұрын
French physicist Pierre Curie would like a word with you about Neodymium magnets and temperatures starting at 80°C. When magnetic materials reach the Curie temperature, the alignment of magnetic moments becomes forcibly disordered. Therefore, as the operating temperature increases, and moves towards the material’s Curie temperature, the magnetic strength of a material weakens due to the moments shifting out of alignment. AlNiCo magnets tolerate the highest maximum operating temperatures of between 450-900°C.
@TwinShards
@TwinShards Жыл бұрын
"You can't break these gears" Me: Try doing a burnt out with my magnetic transmission but ending up with cooked magnets that lost all their property.
@arikardasis
@arikardasis Жыл бұрын
this is so cool. Great work!
@hadesangelos
@hadesangelos Жыл бұрын
i envisioned something like this around 2005 and never pursued it, this is really interesting to see
@trumanhw
@trumanhw Жыл бұрын
This is BRILLIANT dude. Thank you. I'm guessing you have a strong bg in physics.
@flexygoo1295
@flexygoo1295 Ай бұрын
This was so goddamn interesting. It's bafflingly simple but I'd have never even thought of it. Wild
@Vok250
@Vok250 9 ай бұрын
What happens when you apply load?
@solvated_photon
@solvated_photon 6 ай бұрын
“No torque” is conveniently missing from the title
@jaredlukes7687
@jaredlukes7687 Ай бұрын
😂
@NakedSageAstrology
@NakedSageAstrology Жыл бұрын
Wow, I was just thinking of building something like this as an actuator in a humanoid robot! Good work.
@Tntdruid
@Tntdruid 5 ай бұрын
What about dust and mud?
@juangonzalez9848
@juangonzalez9848 Жыл бұрын
Yes you can break them, the simplest way is with over torque. If you define breakage as not working as intended, then if you apply to much torque load at the output and the magnets can’t overcome it, then your gears are broken.
@wolvenar
@wolvenar Жыл бұрын
Did you know, older tractors use to use a version of this on the pto to isolate the tractor from hammering of machinery. It was only largr ceramic magnets on one side, and a thick copper disk bolted to a steel one on the output. The magnets would apparently drag the copper around as it setup currents that resist the magnetic charge change.
@EREBUSAETHER
@EREBUSAETHER Жыл бұрын
We have just been waiting for the one that actually runs longer than a minute. Now we can collaborate and improve on these
@OmegaBlack999
@OmegaBlack999 9 ай бұрын
This was great to watch. Also, many knowledgeable comments... Thanks a lot
@pass-123
@pass-123 Жыл бұрын
I'm planning on using something like this in some space hardware I am designing at work. If you can seal the magnets effectively, this kind of shaft coupling can be used to make a pump or other rotating machinery that does not have any dynamic seals, which reduces the chance for a leak during the machinery's service life greatly. If you use a thrust bearing, you can use some very strong magnets, which allows for a higher max (possible) torque.
@retsetman9698
@retsetman9698 Жыл бұрын
Yes, there are indeed magdrive pumps without dynamic seals in the industry and they are being used, I have this idea in mind, but I really need some really strong magnets for the clutch and btw I think one of the areas where magnetic gears will be most useful is space because there is no need for maintenance.
@justmengracie
@justmengracie Жыл бұрын
Lol the Own Magnetic used this type transmission in 1916 and the electomagnetic drive was and is patented
@jdiddy2314
@jdiddy2314 Жыл бұрын
@@justmengracie en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Magnetic
@BooBaddyBig
@BooBaddyBig Жыл бұрын
You could probably build that into an axial motor for built-in down gearing. Incidentally, are you using a metal backing plate for your magnets? Even a thin sheet DOUBLES the effective thickness of the magnets while adding very little weight. It gives a similar effect to Halbach arrays, but it's mechanically self-stable.
@akeditz4451
@akeditz4451 Жыл бұрын
If you manage to use this setup on a bike with the gear chain you would have a relatively nice ebike. Amazing stuff btw.
@74KU
@74KU Жыл бұрын
No contact No wear No lube No good See the Tom Stanton video as to why specifically to save my time.
@loganshrewsbury2858
@loganshrewsbury2858 11 ай бұрын
love it, great idea and i hope you keep improving your gear box
@masmainster
@masmainster Жыл бұрын
You lost me at, "how can sparks fly from such a thing?"
@gpofficial350
@gpofficial350 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant!!!, the only drawback to this would be the cost since magnets are quite expensive.
@dwimarpinnock9799
@dwimarpinnock9799 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this principle is cool! Imagine if you could change the polarity of the magnets electronically whilst they are still rotating!
@AdityaMehendale
@AdityaMehendale Жыл бұрын
The arrangement in 2:12 shows grouping whereby one set has an integer multiple of the other. I wonder if an intentional asymmetry or a "Vernier-mode" (e.g. with an odd number of inserts) might be imaginable to reduce torque-ripple. I see that you already employ a 4 --> 10 --> 16 ratio.. Great demo (and the pucker-factor right at the beginning :)
@jackfairman7371
@jackfairman7371 Жыл бұрын
This one actually made me subscribe, impressive.
@simplecad7462
@simplecad7462 Жыл бұрын
Interesting topic! To increase torque and magnetic flux even more you can add back-iron behind magnets. Back-iron is very common for axial flux motors.
@gxro6883
@gxro6883 2 ай бұрын
Neat idea. I suggest making a cool clock (a lot of magnets but low torque)
@richiejohn5760
@richiejohn5760 Жыл бұрын
Good work, I am curious how this will evolve during time
@freedomtowander
@freedomtowander Жыл бұрын
What happens under heavy load? Torque? It seems like a great idea, but using only magnets and not like electromagnets is the technology scalable? I am so fascinated by your work! Thank you for sharing. This is a very terrestrial concept, so it is very relevant! Great job!
@EldeNice
@EldeNice Жыл бұрын
It slips. It's completely useless under those conditions.
@hershelr.sullivaniii7139
@hershelr.sullivaniii7139 Жыл бұрын
I'll say one thing; you need to use lock washers on your bolts that are holding the whole apparatus together. Two of those were completely loose while you were turning it with your electric motor.
@randyscorner9434
@randyscorner9434 Жыл бұрын
Several companies tried to commercialize magnet gearing/clutches, etc. The best known is probably MagnaDrive which is only a niche supplier. Problems are heating of plates and magnetics, foreign object attraction, interference with external systems, and several others. Cool but kind of useless. But a nice video showing some neat experiments.
@mistirion4929
@mistirion4929 Жыл бұрын
Title: You can't break these gears. First 10 seconds of the video: breaks these gears.
@keithmac7596
@keithmac7596 Жыл бұрын
Stall the driven side and heat will destroy the field effect ,
@lordsqueak
@lordsqueak Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could get even more torque by doing 3 disks with 1:2 ratio , so you end up with 1:4 total.
@billyjohns7258
@billyjohns7258 Жыл бұрын
Amazing world we live in and the the possibilities of material we have on this planet and also the wisdom to find it out. A creators hand is seen everywhere and even is the reason for the desire to create something!
@maalikserebryakov
@maalikserebryakov Жыл бұрын
Cringe
@typhoonsd9720
@typhoonsd9720 Жыл бұрын
How long will the bearings last?
@hera86468
@hera86468 Жыл бұрын
Simply gorgeous concept
@theoriginaldeity
@theoriginaldeity Жыл бұрын
My grandpa made one of these quite similar in the 80s still have a vhs tale somewhere in his attic of it changing 6 gears and getting up to 7k rpm which is crazy for the time
@jarrodhroberson
@jarrodhroberson 10 ай бұрын
with zero torque transfer ability
@TheZafootz
@TheZafootz Ай бұрын
To avoid any unwanted back flow currents, instead of using that plate with screws in it, try using a copper plate that has cut slits that inline with the plate that holds the magnets. This insures that the back flow currents wont be powerful enough to effect the spin of the machine but as far as getting useful electric power out of such a machine I leave up to you.
@VoidForge
@VoidForge 9 ай бұрын
"Unbreakable" - broke in first seconds of the video. Oh, the joy of engineering! :)
@rocketsurgeon11
@rocketsurgeon11 Жыл бұрын
That's pretty ingenious.
@erikf2763
@erikf2763 Жыл бұрын
use lock washers on the nuts that keep the plastic plates together, this will prevent vibration and heat. and keep magnets in place.
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