Gears 5 Lacks Variety in Game Modes

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Just pure discussion for this video. Didn't add any music or gameplay audio so you guys can listen to it like a podcast if you want. Have another tab open or whatever. Will be interesting to hear what you guys have to say in the comments. I'll be reading all of it!

[@umbasa01]

A king of the hill thats actually staying in the hill but with execution rules

[@TheRazoredEdge]

@@umbasa01 Sounds like Annex

[@dajonbutler7206]

What do y'all play on GOW like wingman, team Deathmatch, king of the hill, Beast mode, Horde, or others

[@godzvnm]

@@uthmanhanif6321 you mean the air back a was nerfed, the normal back a is perfectly fine

[@izzywizzy7716]

There should be a gears of war battle royale. one huge map, both with free for all and teams

[@djmoron242]

When you revisit the old gears games and come back to gears 5 it feels like a different game

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

True

[@jetstreamsamsung1753]

Everyone knows that

[@skullguy39]

I'd love to see an attack and defend kinda deal where maybe the Cog have to hold off a base for a selective amount of time, while the Locus/swarm players have to do objectives to get inside and plant a bomb or something. Like taking Koth points to progress or opening doors. It'd have to be on different maps other then the default pvp ones, maybe something that uses the Escape map maker areas to build an arena or something.

[@QuestQuenchers]

I think gears 5 has gone into limp mode, basically the bulk of TC has moved onto their next project.

[@djmoron242]

Next project???

[@georgehernandez2156]

Pretty much, it happened they stopped making new hives.

[@Emperorschmanicus]

I miss beast mode

[@seanspear6224]

We can complain as much as we want tc won’t listen much we could just go play the earlier gears as it still has some online community

[@djmoron242]

Bro I’ve BEEN doing this and not only it’s really slow but virtually nobody online

[@Panda-lh3in]

I can find gow 3 matches faster than 5

[@demonickillerhd8132]

Thank you, yes it does

[@hrpac9592]

I absolutely love Escape mode and have been having a blast with it for over a year now. Horde gets stale with the repeating sets of 10 waves. PvP is solid, but not as much fun as GoW4 and GoW2.

[@Chronomaton]

Beast mode should be fairly easy to introduce so it absolutely should be brought in. Aside from that for game modes I'd mainly say we should have Capture the Stranded back. The bigger issue imo is that there's no different way to approach the game modes we do have. Back in 2 and 3 things had a much more varied feel because people started with various guns. You could have different strategies and options arise from that. Now however it's all just Lancer or Gnasher. Makes it a lot more boring.

[@_Apostate]

I would really love a Overrun 2.0 and a War game mode.

[@QueenDaenerysTargaryen]

Needs beast and horde modes.

[@adron7748]

Yes! A big team battle in Gears would be awesome

[@TheRazoredEdge]

I'd love it. Even an 8v8 on the big tile maps or something could be cool.

[@noahbigham2715]

I still love the game but I would like more game modes

[@fatguyslim]

No you won't. You will still hate it because it has way more issues than just the game modes

[@fixitfelix9830]

I remember the good old days not caring about ranked and just having fun 😢

[@Jasmijn98]

I want osok, beast mode, execution and wingman. A fun gamemode would be a small map with smoke/flash traps and melee only gridiron. That would be way better and funnier since no one is ever going for the flag

[@ItsJust_Sins]

I've been quit this game. It got boring for me plus Operations 4 was MUCH better than Operations 5. Operations 5 is worse than a letdown and a disappointment. I'll just stick to Gears 1-4 since I've always found myself having fun with those at least.

[@masterchief8655]

Then why are you still on this video?

[@ImSoConfucius]

@@masterchief8655 feedback on the vid and general support, Master Chief

[@motivation7492]

I miss 5v5 in ranked...

[@InvictaRedz]

ME TOO, THIS 4V4 THING IS STUPID. AND WE CANT EVEN PLAY WITH ALL OF ARE FRIEND'S IN CERTAIN GAME MODES ITS STUPID

[@malignshadowms4522]

I started playing gears 5 just after the update of making it 4v4 but 5v5 sounds awesome and it would make the games not feel sluggish especially with the tuning

[@aaiizee3]

Do you guys think it will ever go back to 5v5 and if not will gears 6 be 5v5?

[@N9iNETR3Y]

I think people keep forgetting that they changed it to 4v4 because of all the quitters. So if there's anybody to bitch at, it's your own fellow gamers, not the Coalition

[@InvictaRedz]

@@N9iNETR3Y then there should be a 5v5 tdm and 4v4 match making, that would be nice

[@dblundz]

Don't care what TC says. You dont take out execution, that's gears.

[@TheRazoredEdge]

I agree with you, but when you're also searching for an Execution game for an hour at a time I get why they removed it.

[@armyowens990]

the only thing i hate his grinding stars for my tour and most the time i cant enjoy versus or hordr since im more focus on doing my challenges to get stars and hit general

[@TitusGuard]

I still enjoy playing horde with friends but I just can’t get into the pvp multiplayer anymore I’m glad I hit masters once before and got the skins but my character feels like he’s pulling sleds now and like I’m learning a brand new game

[@theMaster...]

I've easily put 1,000 hours into various Horde Modes, but since Gears 3 they have progressively FUC*KED the Mode into the nonsense it is today. Sad.

[@Jyoshua_]

Pete is spittin facts

[@evanthompson4186]

To me, the biggest problem with gears 5 is their hit registration. I'm a gears head and high level multi-player player. I play 4 because it is fairly consistent with the hit registration. With 5, I can have a shot I know should be hitting and the game will say I miss completely or hit a partial shot. I know some troll will come in and say I just miss my shot, but I want you to add RIPCLIFF ORION and get me in a private on 4 and we'll see who misses a shot. I know when a shot should hit and when it shouldn't and how much damage it should do. Gears 5 is inconsistent with that so much and it makes it frustrating to play

[@XxTannermonstaxX]

With the whole social playlist, it should be one playlist just called social and at the end of the match everyone can vote and it would be totally random. Like 4 votes, one could be TDM on gridlock and another could be KOTH on blood drive, ect. Kind of like how it is for player vs AI but just one whole playlist, just to funnel the players.

[@XxTannermonstaxX]

Even adding older game modes like wingman or capture the meat flag with the flag being an AI would be super fun about now, and I'm sure they could add twists too other game modes beside the capture or kill game modes.

[@ItzzBrandonn]

They need to bring back overrun or beast mode and add osok and other modes in the game permanently not just weekly things especially now that since you have the option to delete certain parts of the game so it adds room for more game modes

[@BoldPromisesTTV]

holy shit I forgot about overrun that shit was fun as hell if I remember clearly

[@TheRazoredEdge]

It was the best thing about Gears Judgment hands down

[@polardw1527]

This is gonna sound stupid but I want like counter strike type mode were we start with pistols then get money and get sniper and guns and we plant defuse bombs

[@TheRazoredEdge]

It would be cool to try something like this

[@5hane9ro]

I'd probably be fine playing Gears 5 multiplayer if I could play Overrun again, best part of judgement. Or I guess anything interesting, like Submission.

[@heyheyjorge4314]

aw dude, you forgot to mention BOSS Horde mode that's been available for a week. It is so much fun! I hope they bring it back! anyone care to support a small gears channel? love to know opinions on it.

[@aDarkG59]

They just need to add permanent Wingman. I miss that mode. It was fun

[@jasonhelem2824]

Yes indeed!!!

[@daveonpickett7316]

They should make a mode where each player is put into a separate lane. Have each lane filled with different horde style enemies/bosses to fight along the way and the player who can complete their lane the fastest wins. Kind of a Gears style obstacle course.

[@wistfulterror3918]

TC introduced escalation in 4...Wasn’t all carry over

[@jessiejones5986]

I loved dodgeball in gears it was very fun. I hope to see all these OG game modes in gears 6

[@TheOSTLobby]

We need overrun and beast mode back. I still play 3/judgment because of those modes

[@externalboss9404]

Underrated game mode but I would love to see capture the leader in gears of war 5 or a future gears of war game

[@marcmuniz2119]

Then: TC what are you doing?? Now: TC what are you doing??

[@jetstreamsamsung1753]

True

[@Rawr93]

Nice video man. I agree it’s just stale and we need more. I hope for better stuff in the future.

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Yeah. And it's not even about having more. It's just about having something different.

[@thedailygrind444]

@@TheRazoredEdge quality over quantity?

[@Lecon223]

A gears pop esque game mode where you push territory control with the ability to call in a warden or a fleet of DBees would be fun.

[@itsbounceyt8732]

I agree but we all just love the franchise more than gears 5 😂😂

[@TrillGates]

I actually forgot about overrun and how fun it was

[@robertemanuel1357]

Been playing since 06 however with recent games 4 and 5 I play for about 4 months solid then slowly dwindle down to not playing within 5-6 months. Due to lack of content.

[@fateisnear925]

and still lacks grindable content.... We still need more maps and more skins and camos. The Re-UP update is still underwhelming.

[@TheRazoredEdge]

What are you looking for? We have Tour, Re-Ups now, Masters for every mode, PvE classes to level up and cards to upgrade. There is a lot to do at the moment.

[@hcaps3129]

@@TheRazoredEdge but the rewards just arent really ..well.. rewarding

[@Dpilkz94]

@@hcaps3129 there pointless, defo dosnt make you feel proud of all ur hard work ,, n tbh they will probs end up in store for iron

[@fateisnear925]

@@TheRazoredEdge From gears3 to 5 its still lackluster tbh

[@dblundz]

@@hcaps3129 exactly. Gears 3 had less but was easily more rewarding for example.

[@ADynamicProduction]

Love the Vid Pete Great Ideas hope it comes to life in the Future.

[@CursedwithADHD]

So many modes left behind from the Epic era that made GoW unique

[@GSGNightCrawler]

Been hoping they do large scale battles for a while now. They have all these unique creatures and vehicles they could use. They could make a walker assault game type but with the derrecks.

[@anthonygrant694]

A bomb mode would probably work with 4v4 only and they could make a shortage of weapons for the mode and or give each team a fabricator or something idk. I would like a mode like that as well.

[@TechedOff]

Need a war game mode. 8v8 5 hills. Push to the other team’s side 1 hill at a time.

[@Jostyy]

I feel like Gridiron should become a literal Football mode in a funny way that might actually make it fun where you can tackle someone or insta gib them like the Brawler class in Horde ATM imo Horde/escape/PVE has the biggest potential for fun new things Bringing back Beast mode and Overrun would be phenomenonal I honestly think a 10 man Beast mode where you are the swarm raiding villages of outsider Ai's would genuinely be fun and as you progress you start kidnapping people from CoG settlements I've also always wanted a Big Team Verses, where you can access vehicles (on the Locust/swarm side Vehicles can essentially be bigger swarm)

[@MyViibez]

I hate what TC has done to the franchise. They've removed everything good

[@LegateSilverus]

Just the video I needed after a long day of work. Thank you Pete 👍

[@TheRazoredEdge]

You're very welcome

[@georgehernandez2156]

Why did they get rid of bots in casual games??

[@TheRazoredEdge]

They're boring to kill. You can play against bots in Co-Op vs. AI

[@vUghlee]

Does anyone know if I'll still get my Diamond weapon skins if I was demoted to Onyx after one match? I'm not that great so getting to Diamond was a big accomplishment and I'm onyx 3 now so I wanna know if I can just be done or If i have to get it again.

[@Jostyy]

An Asymmetrical game mode like DBD or Friday the 13thwhere 1 person is A selected Locust Villain (Raam, Skorge, Sraak, Myrrah, Reyna (hentai edition) and 9 other CoG players that need to find weapons to fight back

[@Vash_D._Jager]

make a tag mode or maybe add something to escape like a race you would run through and you can shoot buttons or something and cause "problems" for the other players

[@fateisnear925]

We need a search and destroy or a rush mode in this game! Imagine a rush style mode from battlefield but in gears.. ooof that would be sick

[@v1iolent]

As long as it has been but gears 2 had the best selection of maps and game modes

[@synicalreaper6997]

Maybe there should only be rank of each game mode except for arcade and co-op obviously.

[@anthonygrant694]

"New modes every operation" . Where they at?

[@sozoxd3754]

They left with the majority of the player base that quit along with the development team. 😂

[@anthonygrant694]

@@sozoxd3754 Man 😞

[@sozoxd3754]

@@anthonygrant694 I'll look back on the original gears games fondly. Worst thing that ever happened to gears was TC and youtube shills. Both don't want to talk about the real issues with the game it's all character models, skins and game modes they speak about. Fuckin waste of time

[@SepiaQuotient]

Clasic horde is pretty boring for me tbh.

[@TheRazoredEdge]

I can understand why. it's good to have it as an option though. People may play Classic for a while and then become curious about the classes and cards system as time goes on.

[@Dpilkz94]

They should focus more on individual maps having there own story and mission . Gears campaign and cinematic draw us in so say for example nexus there a cinematic of us deploying in the grind lift you fight your horde but maybe you have to save stranded cog soldiers and bring them escort them threw the horde back to the fabricator if they survive you get extra xp ,, n each map has there own power weapon like hamer of dawn or mortar,, I dunno just feels stale I personally play pve so after playing it a lot it’s just same stuff over again,, even the ending the should have you evacuating them little cinematic bits make it more immersive

[@ggzii]

I do agree, but it's also more of a "depth of combat" issue. CSGO has basically one mode, League of legends doesn, Overwatch does, Dota 2 does but that mode has depth and skill so each game is different, gears has such bland combat these days that games feel stale quickly.

[@matthewwatson6528]

Horde vs beast mode would be sick nd would make sence why not

[@haddonfieldslasher7932]

What reup is X1X

[@stevencorona1531]

beast mode is something i would want for them to bring i loved playing go3 beast mode

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Same

[@ks_carri3d571]

Overrun but 32 vs 32 ascog you start out as a generic gear then Locust you start out as like a drone more points you get during the match you can buy a boomer and and the Cog you can be a hero like Marcus just imagine that game mode

[@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24]

True I agree but I’ve heard other last year had too much variety. This is why I can’t deal with the community sometimes cuz nobody can agree on what the game needs

[@Spartan842]

What if for the 32 v 33 game mode they use that as a way to reintroduce overrun? For example you start off with cog gears, then can purchase dr1 Shepard’s, then guardians, then Armadillo APC’s Then for swarm start off as a drone, the. Can go pouncer, then scion, then carrier, and it goes off a buy system They could need to make exclusive maps for this mode, which could run into the gears judgment problem of separating attention and launching with “8” maps (4 for multiplayer, 4 for overrun) But if MS doubled down and gave them the resources and manpower it coulda happen, fuck that’d be amazing

[@nathanthornton4488]

I agree, but I feel like even if Ms helped it'll take until gears 6 to come out full effect

[@MJGamer88]

Great video as always enjoyed it and leaving you a massive like 👍

[@littlebadassgaming]

Wingman is not existing. Beast Mode isn't alive. Still no news on Submission.

[@Dpilkz94]

Gears fans : we want wing man , Tc : have a twerking glittery wrestler and a poop emote

[@malignshadowms4522]

My favourite game mode was probably 5v5 gnashes only KOTH

[@otherZinc]

I absolutely have no idea wtf you guys are talking about. Halo is the only game with more options than Gears: Campaign Campaign Co-op Multiplayer Horde Mode Escape Mode Map Editor Daily Achievements: For Modes... I mean...Spoiled Much? I have 1,600+ Hours in Horde Mode Alone! I play Horde Mode Every damn Day: Because I love this damn Game; Nothing Else! *I'm Not Complaining!*

[@user-qv8gl7zj4t]

lmfao well for multiplayer/competitive players gears 5 has been dogshit for awhile now unfortunately.

[@nathanthornton4488]

Damn that's some gears pride

[@Dpilkz94]

You are what’s wrong with gears , they see one or two comments sayin it’s a good game n they think it’s great ,, bro if u played the old gears you know init ,, gears 5 is dead

[@otherZinc]

@@Dpilkz94, Dude wtf are you talking about: I beat the hell out of All of the Gears Games! Even Gears Ultimate! Gears is my 2nd or 3rd favorite Franchise, since I started Gaming with Pong in 1976! Gears has never been better! What game has mor Variety? Please answer that.

[@otherZinc]

@@nathanthornton4488, Pride has nothing to do with it. Last gen, while the Bullsh*t Media was running around, telling every one Uncharted & Uncharted 9....I mean TLOU2 were great: in the Mudd @30fps: I was playing Gears 4 @60fps! At that time, I'm like, I'll never game under 60fps again! Nokw: Gears is @120fps, people are Complaining? Nahhh GTFOOH and go play PlayStation. See that Bullsh*t Days Gone, to play that Bullsh*t Horde in Single Player only, with No Damn Multiplayer!

[@evanjones8474]

Anyone got any ideas for new game modes not like it matters but I just wanna see some original ideas from other people. Also thought classic horde was going have weapon spawns on the map like Gow2 & 3 but sadly didn't which doesn't make it truly classic but hey that's just me.

[@vil3on]

I think Gears of War 3 was the best one in terms of content and progression. Playlists of all different game modes were always available. And the rewards for playing were very rewarding, like the golden hunter character was a form of status. I also enjoyed the fortifications getting better the more you play, though i do enjoy the card system making it so that you can do more challenging difficulties, but i wish we could choose passives and have a bigger selection of cards, it would make for some crazy builds, and since it's not really a competitive mode, finding some broken set ups would be really fun, and that's what the game needs to be for me, a fun experience. (Also i thought the story had pretty cool potential but was lacking, in character development and in the sense that it kinda fucked up the timeline)

[@AnubisTheDawg]

Wing man was one of my favorite modes... they should also make a NORMAL 8 FFA. Meaning not just gnashers only.

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Most players didn't like the Lancer play in FFA

[@AnubisTheDawg]

@@TheRazoredEdge what? That's weird. That's like taking out certain weapon class's from ffa in some other game like halo or CoD. Gears of War has a way to Gnasher only community.... If this was CoD it would be the polar opposite when it comes to shotguns lol

[@TheRazoredEdge]

@@AnubisTheDawg I've kind of forgotten what it plays like with Lancers, but yes I do agree. Too many players like only the Gnasher.

[@iamshrekowski7659]

Warzone, I miss you🥲

[@dblundz]

lack of ranked modes is really one of the reasons why i barely play. Sick of KoTH and TDM. 2v2's solo is normally a bad idea and FFA is cool but cant carry ranked. Also King of the gnasher should be a permanent ranked mode

[@q1r568]

Beast mode

[@evanmorris3156]

Prop hunt: play as a torque bow or long shot and hide on the map

[@sucoh2988]

I wish they left it at 5v5 but no parties in ranked, It should have been the individual player rank not the whole 5 man rank. Maybe if they added more rewards like in Gears 3, having to really grind to receive the medals emblems or character skin and weapon skins.

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Restricting the ability to play with friends is bad imo

[@yogitakasar4091]

They should make boomsnipers permanent or a snipers only mode

[@TheRazoredEdge]

OSOK

[@toppogb9264]

Add Wingman!

[@clutchbbq4599]

I think a mode I would like to see is a Battle Royal gears version, but I don’t think TC will be able to do that

[@ItzzBrandonn]

They could do a hunt mode where you play as the matriach and you have to kill all the other players or the players have to kill the matriarch and i realized you said this as i was typing this🤣

[@GloriousKev]

I don't see the problem with quick play options. Not everyone wants to sweat it out or care about their ranks all the time.

[@anthonygrant694]

Prop hunt wouldn't hurt. Should be very easy too. Just a chill mode to play

[@TheRazoredEdge]

I wonder if people would think that's too goofy for Gears. I'd be down for it though.

[@anthonygrant694]

@@TheRazoredEdge They will think that but we already got goofy emotes so what's prop hunt going to do?

[@OfficialHybridSystem]

I'm working on a video similar that covers issues with gamemodes and why some should be ranked ONLY and others shouldn't be in ranked. Guardian and Gridiron should be ranked, FFA should be removed and put back in Social. Because while it's usually lone wolf players, Gears is a teamplay game and FFA is getting to be boring with secret manning and bot walkers in this new tuning. It's not nearly as exciting as it was last tuning and more players need to learn teamwork and that should help with better match making in modes like KOTH and TDM. *I get teammates who body block and knife me all the time or stand at spawn shooting into the sky.*

[@RIPMalice]

One thing I'm hoping The Coalition do is bring back other previous tour of duty characters back. For an example: UIR Officer characters, UIR Nomad characters, and Major Paduk. I really want them back for the people including me who either missed out on them or couldn't afford them. I don't want those special characters as well as others to just be gone forever. Please tell me I'm not alone here? :(

[@ctrlhypewall]

thats not likely to happen from Operation 3 onwards rewards that are earned in the tour are exclusive to that operation and then cant be earned again

[@Nemesis_SN]

Interesting coincidence how this dropped shortly after Zii's latest vid, just noticing. I agree yes, Gears 5 feels hollow, has no identity or real direction and there is no short or simple solution, it needs a thorough rebuild and well structured path of progression for players to follow to get them engaged, I'm not pretending I have the answers but professional developer studio like TC or any other should find a way, or leave it in more capable hands before the franchise unceremoniously dies of tragic death. Take care Pete. 👍

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Haven't watched his videos in quite a while. This video was essentially a response to the recent Tac-Com community stream which I was actually invited to join in on but wasn't feeling up to it. Thought it was a good way to add my points without actually being on. I have come to like Gears 5 for what it is, but I completely understand why people don't. But that doesn't mean I don't want bigger and better things for the game. Here's to hoping.

[@Nemesis_SN]

@@TheRazoredEdge I do too, no matter how many times they (TC) made me angry I still play and support the game and will continue to do so, I guess us Gears fans are just that stubborn/devoted, most definitely I hope Gears finds a way to remain relevant, I don't think it's THAT hard either but needs work that's a fact. Cheers man.

[@thatasianonline7148]

Yeeaaaahhh, I kinda miss Arms Race and Dodgeball, my favorite mode.

[@deanromine866]

I hate to say it but I doubt we’ll get a fresh set of game modes until the game becomes more popular and makes more money

[@noahbigham2715]

I agree

[@jessiejones5986]

And also the thing about quick play and ranked is that you should reach gold or diamond to play quick play. So people could get better and stop complaining about the game

[@reaxel2384]

why can't they keep the event horde modes for custom so people can enjoy any of them at anytime they want

[@Wicked_He_Bad]

gears 5 sux is a lost cause we need to foucus on gow 6 with cliff Blezenski

[@emmywhiten8705]

They took execution away... I still play gears 5 because the gnasher. But execution was the only MP mode I enjoyed playing serious

[@earpoizin3271]

Either bring 3 to pc or add beast mode to 5

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Gears 3 is kind of on PC in a way

[@admiresilence9065]

over run mode. but instead of how judgment was, do it Locust vs Swarm.

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Would be awesome. That or Beast Mode.

[@John-fk1ny]

To some of you players, it got boring playing gears 5.. but if you haven’t mastered the maps yet then go for it.. if you Haven’t max out yours cards then play a little different.. I would imagine running horde with the same skill cards and then completing nexus or whatever maps and beating it is no fun.. try beating the maps with different skills set of cards that would be challenging for all gears 5 players out there... Same with escape also..

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Good point. Trying different ways to play is important

[@jtfofree5852]

Wingman and beast mode will save the franchise

[@TheRazoredEdge]

Not on their own, but they should be included

[@xcrack6364]

Not for me at least. All I play is Horde and Campaign.

[@DeLexified]

I feel like this nothing new to anyone who's played gears of war back then I honestly think gears of war 4 had some crazy ranked gamemodes and how much purpose there was I personally think gears of war 3 had great maps while some where also medorice *looking at you trenches* but point stands I think gears of war 3 was big with customazion