Hands On Review of HORI PlayStation 5 Fighting Commander OCTA - Tournament Grade Fightpad

[@kensavage7657]

I thought this would be a "sensible" review of the fightpad. Instead, it's being reviewed as if it is a "normal PS5 controller" - which it doesn't pretend to be. 14:55 - Anyone buying a fightpad, to use in fighting games, has no need of the right analog stick - so the absence is not a negative. Would you mark down a fightstick for not having a right analog stick??? 15:24 - No adaptive triggers is a positive, for this controller, not a negative. They are never needed in any fighting games. They are one of the easiest components to break, in a normal PS5 controller. 15:38 - Having the buttons moved onto the face of the controller is the entire point of this type of pad. The review section makes as much sense as buying a motorbike, then complaining that you can't close the windows like you can in a car. After all, they're both vehicles that go on a road - surely it makes sense to compare them, directly, when both are advertised as doing very different things?

[@flashfalgui]

Man reviews a fight pad… struggles through SF5 demo… 😂 What a waste of my everyone’s time.

[@SolidSnake240]

Thanks for saving me some time 😂

[@JoNNyCLOUD171]

YOU ABSOLUTE LEGEND. Jesus some actual logic in the comments. Absolute morons are buying these tools for perfection which is what they are and then complaining they aren't "premium" or comparing them to tools not remotely designed for the job. No word of a lie, one guy actually said one a couple of the highest end tools doesn't "feel" premium for the price despite having the best things required for it's intended purpise. Low input delay, comfortable to hold in long tournament sessions, long lasting mechanical inputs, fast actuation, reliable and consistent inputs. THOSE are what matter, not the fkin colour, carrying case or the packaging. Like WHAT! These people are expecting some luxurious bespoke product that some how makes them get a huge jump in KDA in an FPS or rank at fighting games but then have no idea what a jump shot is for or a safe jump is for......

[@JoNNyCLOUD171]

@@flashfalgui All part of the "I want to be a KZbin techie" trend. No actual quality for the content or care for the viewer. Shit out videos for the algorithm and hope degenerates pay you and blindly listen. This is partly why so many idiots exist now, due to social media manipulation and anyone with a braincell putting anything they want without it needing to be fact checked and nobody is allowed to call you out on it because "eviiiiill person". I'm not saying this guy had immoral intentions, but surely some common sense would dictate "I have no idea about fighting games so I shouldn't review a controller made for them".

[@HalcyonEX]

​@@JoNNyCLOUD171 I know your comment is old but I'm looking for a fight pad would you recommend this one for SF6? Or is there another one you recommend? I'm on PS5

[@FILTHYGEARSMUSIC]

I have a big thumb and keep hitting 2 buttons at once wasting ex sometimes but I do still really like this pad

[@HEATFANMAN03]

So to correct a point in this video, just about every major fighting game on PS5 supports listened (brands like Hori, Razer, etc..) PS4 sticks. There have been a couple exceptions, such as when the DNF Duel beta dropped, but games like Street Fighter 6 and Guilty Gear Strive will work with any licensed Sony arcade stick.

[@GearsAndTech]

Great to hear. Thank you

[@jelayemoore2669]

MK1 doesn’t work or I’m doing something wrong. Any ideas anyone? Trying to use Hori fight commander for ps4 on it.

[@atlebakke]

14:50 He *actually* says "I don't see the value in this, this controller is useless as a Playstation 5 controller, except for fighting games" Well duh, it *is* called the Fighting Commander. He talks like Hori is trying to push it as something else. It's not *meant* as a ps5 controller! It's a fighting game controller! Then all the bs about the Besavior.. Yeah, no, you've showed your understanding of this, I don't think I'll take any advice from you, thank you👎

[@GearsAndTech]

As a fight pad it's not much good either. Too much play in the buttons. Did you like it?

[@atlebakke]

Not my point, but whatever.. In the review you say the buttons are "extremely responsive and very clicky" Which is it?

[@atlebakke]

And yeah I do, Fight Commander has been known as the top fgc for a long time for a reason. Not many people are hating on it (if they know what they're talking about)

[@DaScrewUp]

​@GearsAndTech I definitely like the controller for fighting games. Far, far better than dualsense to me for fighting games.

[@NeroWolf42]

you said in the review, the buttons were clicky and responsive. 5:30 second mark buttons can't really have alot of play in them and still be clicky. @@GearsAndTech

[@aopbrij]

That clicky sound from the action buttons ❤❤ much better buttons than the membrane buttons ❤

[@GearsAndTech]

It's very satisfying

[@jamesblue7883]

I think the reviewer is overlooking the fact that there is a whole group of Street Fighter players that only use Fightpads to play. It goes back to the Sega pads for genesis and Saturn. You can also get a brook wingman FGC ps5 converter for $50 and other has zero input lag.

[@GearsAndTech]

It's possoble. I don't appreciate the sub culture for these types of games so it's hard to appreciate the controller

[@mr.b111]

​@@GearsAndTechthen don't review a controller that's dedicated to this game genre.

[@mikeandroid3512]

What if I wanna use a Sega Saturn retrobit pad on my ps4? (Wired). Brook wingman. Will it work for sure ?

[@bahamut505ci]

Yeah when mlg became a thing the prices of fight sticks skyrocketed.

[@k_DEDb07]

had the DualSense Edge delivered today. first impressions: godlike ^^ edit: look forward to your review

[@GearsAndTech]

I'm still waiting for mine. I did get my victix bfg though. Hoping to do an unboxing today

[@k_DEDb07]

@@GearsAndTech looks great controller aswell 😄

[@TJTRIZZ]

But Sony haven't changed the dpad and the fact they brought evo yet dpad is garbage for games like sf6 is laughable

[@nodayoff1000]

Dualsense is good for mk and I love it but victrix is good for sf6 and Tk7

[@NeroWolf42]

Man, comments section alone tells me everything i need to know. about the controller and the channel controller looks good enought. channel should really focus on quality over pushing merch and comparing to a non standard ps5 controller

[@GearsAndTech]

Quality was poor. That's what my problem with it was

[@VictorSilva86]

I sold my PS4 MadCatz Arcade Stick recently, but before I did, I tested Mortal Kombat 11 (PS5 version) and it worked even though it was not meant to be supported out of the box. And obviously all the PS4 games on my PS5 also worked as expected using the stick. I was planning on buying this Hori Octa for PS5, but I may either get the Victrix Pro or perhaps a hitbox to see if I can adapt to it.

[@mercster]

The Hori OCTA, while certainly imperfect, shares many of the disadvantages of the Victrix... and it's $50, so like, $130 cheaper. Neither the Victrix or the OCTA are great pads, but they fill a niche for games that use 6 buttons, like Street Fighter. The Victrix is so mediocre-at-everything-master-of-none, if you want a pad for SF6 I'd get the OCTA and save yourself a wad of cash, and then get a good gamepad for all other games.

[@VictorSilva86]

@@mercster I was actually stubborn enough to get a Hori Octa PS5, to see if I would addapt to it... It was OK, but the dpad simply wasn't good enough for me. For Street Fighter 6 I went back to Dualsense and will probably sell the Hori Octa soon for a little bit more cash, since we can't find it in my country.

[@SolidSnake240]

​@@mercsterwhat other pads do you recommend. I was thinking about getting the Hori Octa.

[@mercster]

@@SolidSnake240 For a reasonably priced 6-face-button pad? I don't know of much, really. I mean, my favored gamepad brand is 8bitdo, either the Pro 2 or the Ultimate are absolute great pads for the money. But if you want a reasonably priced, new, gamepad with 6 face buttons like this, it's the Hori OCTA (I think it's fine), or incredibly expensive options like the Victrix.

[@nodayoff1000]

Hitbox is incredible but I have a hard time blocking so I trying to make a easier way for myself and I also have a mayflash f500 v2 also.

[@ShizuoHeiwa]

CAN ANYONE HELP ME TURN OFF THE DAMN RED REMAP BUTTON??? IT SAID WAIT 4 SECONDS AFTER NOT PRESSING ANYTHING AND THE DAMN LIGHT IS STILL ON!

[@NeroWolf42]

did you try googling it?

[@nodayoff1000]

You can get a old fight stick and a brooks fgc for ps5 and it cost $40

[@GearsAndTech]

That's what I'm saying!

[@hbwong]

Did this controller can be used on all ps5 game?

[@GearsAndTech]

Great question. I think some games won't allow it

[@Gcfhvgub]

The controle it works offline!?

[@GearsAndTech]

Yes

[@emswonkenoon9104]

Sometimes i hit tbe R2 button by accident and that has cost me several matches in tekken, dont know... I think the older version was better, shame that its rubber membrane for the buttons was trash

[@GearsAndTech]

That sucks

[@stephenwatson2853]

Have you tried it with the Cronus Zen?

[@Borninthe80s.]

Can I use this on any PS5 game I don’t like the PS5 controller

[@GearsAndTech]

Seems to work

[@JJ-bj6hg]

Can you test this with the cronuz or xim please

[@GearsAndTech]

Unfortunately no I boxed it up and sent it back as soon as the video was done.

[@steveaustin8086]

Does horripad has turbo mode ? If yes how much clicks on second?

[@shaqthegr8884]

Nope Source : I got one and it's a tournament legal pad

[@steveaustin8086]

@Shaqthegr8 damn times back horipads always had turbo

[@omnibus8555]

How long did you have to wait for the besavior DIY kit to arrive ?

[@GearsAndTech]

It came fast. I got a pre release version for testing

[@jytux9014]

I have been waiting 3 weeks so far it took them 1 and a half weeks to even ship it out and I have some wonky tracking through yuntrack

[@omnibus8555]

Thats the thing thay send to me when on the live chat i Ask about mu order Shipping status: Deir Besavior users, thank you for your support and trust in us. Due to the upcoming Chinese New Year holiday, we will be closed on January 15, 2023 and will resume work on January 31. During this time: 1: We will process orders and customer service as normal. 2: Due to the tight production time and complicated process of Besavior products, we are very sorry that we couldn't ship your order on time. We'll send your order to Arrange for delivery as soon as possible after work resumes. At the same time, we will give a New Year's gift to thank you for your support. The Beloader team wishes you a Happy New Year

[@GearsAndTech]

I can agree. Assembling these things sucks. I don't envy the guy soldering these things into place

[@omnibus8555]

Im just waiting for the kit and i found a person that can do micro soldering and he will install it for 30£ so I’m happy

[@TimeSplitterChimp]

I know this works on PS5 with PS4 versions of games but does it also work on the PS5 downloads of the games and PS5 only games like Street Fighter 6 ?

[@GearsAndTech]

Yes

[@mercster]

A couple months after this, you reviewed the Victrix Pro... which, I think we all agree does a lot of things, but is mediocre at everything. The HORI, while imperfect, provides the one benefit that most SF players would be looking for: 6 face buttons. It doesn't do some of the other things the Victrix Pro does, but... it doesn't do those things well anyway. Best option? Get a normal high-quality PS/BOX controller (or my personal favorite, 8bitdo) for 99% of games, and get the Hori, which is only $50 USD now, for SF5. I think in light of how mediocre the Victrix Pro was for $180, the HORI deserves a slightly better score, if only because at least it does one thing well, for $50.

[@mercster]

Oh also, no need to buy that other controller for "ps5 passthrough"... there is a dongle that does the same, and I think it's around $50 or $60. Not inexpensive, but much cheaper than the Besavior.

[@GearsAndTech]

I think my recomendation is to get a besavior as your main controller and a ps4 arcade fight stick and use the besavior as the gateway of required

[@Aradxboxrblxplayer]

At start of video:man it's boring At the end: BRO GOT A AUDI R8💀

[@GearsAndTech]

Plot twist hey!?

[@grimdomination150]

Ps4 fight sticks work on ps5 already I use the ryu fight stick from street fighter 5

[@GearsAndTech]

Street fighter 5 is a ps4 game Street fighter 6 will likely not support your ps4 controller.

[@MikeRavia-xp5ig]

It's awesome I can't use my hori fight pad on ps5 sf6. But I can play sf6 with my hori pad if I buy the Ps4 version.

[@GearsAndTech]

Really? I thought it would work on Ps5 games too

[@Machiji]

The one that looks like sega genesis controller? It works on sf6 ps5? I'll go get one if it works

[@NURDVEVO]

If you review a fight-pad, review it like a fight-pad. Not a regular gamepad.

[@GearsAndTech]

I'll try better next time

[@bozzyham]

My PS4 Hori sticks all work with the PS5 versions of Guilty Gear Strive and DNF Duel 🤷‍♂️ you could also consider a brook adapter if you don't want to replace a 200$ stick 😂😂😂

[@monkeplaysgames7049]

guilty gear 🤢🤢

[@ferizajsfinest]

I have this controller and its an upgrade when you have only ps5 controller =) i can do much better shoryukens and hadoukens, and over all better movement.. cant understand the hate, if you only have a ds5 pad this is an upgrade..

[@GearsAndTech]

It could just be so much better, that's all

[@N0-D13R]

Se ve de buena calidad aunque la mayoría de fabricantes aun Usan membrana en sus botones, pero en general se ve interesante

[@OctavoMundo8]

Si este control tuviese Dpad mecánica fuese el mejor mando del mercado sin duda o uno de ellos.

[@Peter-the-Angry]

Im really tired of companies putting out bad quality and overpriced controllers. I havent seen ine with a decent dpad since the ps2 days. Arcades sticks get all the quality control while controllers are getting worse.

[@GearsAndTech]

Agreed

[@Conflictproject69]

I got this controller today and WOWWWW. I can honestly say disgusting,horrible and loud it's cheap also very very horrible controller AVOID

[@GearsAndTech]

I felt the same way

[@The_Real_Danjon]

Bro had me in the first half

[@akisritz]

it looks like a trash controller sorry

[@GearsAndTech]

I can agree. It's pretty bad

[@bahamut505ci]

If you aren’t into fighting games it serves no purpose, but if you love fighting games it’s one of if not the best on the market. My major gripe with fighting pads is they are all made for tournament play so they are all wired which sucks. I know they do it for latency, but I’m not a tournament player and I don’t want my controller wired. Normal ps4 and ps5 controllers are wireless and have no latency, so why can’t fight pads do the same?

[@GearsAndTech]

Bluetooth is slower than hard wired. The latency is in perceptible in real time. But when you slow it down this makes the speed difference more clear

[@bahamut505ci]

@@GearsAndTech yes but it isn’t to the point where it would effect the play of a non tournament player. The pdp one coming out soon will address this issue but it just shouldn’t have taken this long. Honestly none of these companies were smart enough to make the controller wireless with a removable cable?

[@GearsAndTech]

I hear you

[@crazyhenry6287]

I’m still trying to get my zen to work on my ps5. What do I need to get the zen to work? Thanks for the vid 👍

[@GearsAndTech]

I show you exactly how to get your zen working on other videos already

[@That1PissedOffBoomer]

1st thing I did one of the 1st things I did when I got my 2nd PS5 was I bought a ton of fighting games come to find out I hate playing them because I do not like the dual shock 5 and maybe the problems were the same with dual shock for I don't like how close the deepad is to the analog sticks And there's no room to maneuver I feel like for some 3-D fighting games it wouldn't really matter that much but if you're playing something like a kind of fighters are you playing something like street fighter or blaze blue or guilty gear well for me I'm trying display world heroes 2 jet and I can't feel the moves out. Although looking at my controllers that seems to be a problem with all of the controllers maybe it's the placement of the depad over the analog stick and that might be the real issue yes I think they're all about the same distance but the xbox and switch controllers Have the analog stick on top And the depot's below it the playstation control her however for some stupid reason they decided to put the deep pad on top and the analog stick below it. So I'm looking into this controller the Hori commander and is there anything any of you can recommend that doesn't have that the sticks that would help?

[@GearsAndTech]

A true arcade stick is best if you're serious about these games

[@Edwinschuur]

​@@GearsAndTechno it is not. They have pros and cons. Arcade sticks don't play better on modern fighting games. They are easier for some characters like charge characters for instance. But many pros won tournaments on pad. It's a matter of preference. A pad has more buttons within reach which you can use for shortcuts. Countering a throw or other mechanics which you use on reaction can be done faster. It really depends on the game. Oh don't they to play Mortal Kombat on sticks. Most specials are not quarter circle forward but just down, forward. And MK has a dedicated block button. It it's better played on a fight pad. Now if we talk about hirbox controllers which don't have any Dpad or stick and also use buttons for movement: hard to master but they do give you an advantage in fighting games.

[@That1PissedOffBoomer]

I don't like it man I don't understand why the f****** analog stick has to be below the depad I mean obviously for the switch pro and for the xbox series as an ex controller's the analog stick is above the d-pad. So there's still that same distance the differences you're only catching on the analogs that could feel like doing moves in the air potentially if you're jumping all your dashes rolls Ground attacks projectiles pretty much it's all stuff that you can pull off pretty easily because your finger is not bumping up against the d*** analog stick. Like I said I would rather just a straight up controller with no analog sticks or I would even be OK with a controller with analog sticks that you can take off if that's even possible.

[@That1PissedOffBoomer]

Oh that's another thing I want to say is just for having just bought the d*** PS5 literally like last week the f****** dual shock 5 controller already one of my buttons is f***** up and I barely even hardly played this thing, like it's ridiculous. This controller actually sounds like it was really well made.