GeForce4 Ti 4400 - NVIDIA's Unloved Middle Child

[@PixelPipes]

Your conclusion is pretty much spot on with what I remember. The Ti4400 was a pretty significant price hike over the 4200 and no one thought it was worth it.

[@SPNG]

It's crazy to see how many cards fell victim to the Ti 4200's amazing value! Kind of a shame the faster memory hardly does anything for it too, I was betting it would make up some ground there.

[@tamw]

I love the 1600w psu for 150w combined full load hw. A true gentleman, treat these old gems like they deserve. I cringe so much it hurts when I see people fire the old stuff up on a 25 years old 380w qtec to be period correct.

[@SPNG]

Would never run this stuff on an old PSU! The Supernova was just 🥱😴Throughout the entire testing haha

[@maxeluy]

I love that the test bench is relatively period correct

[@SPNG]

It's quite nice, and a lot better than the 3GHz Preshott system I was using before! I might swap in an Athlon 64 X2 and overclock it so I can test some faster cards.

[@blakegriplingph]

_[cries in MX440]_

[@SPNG]

😆I mean hey, at least the MX 440 was super cheap. And it's good enough in DX7 that I'd like to test one against a GeForce2 Ultra, I think it would make for an interesting matchup

[@TheVanillatech]

@@SPNG I got robbed. Went to the store to buy a Geforce 3 with £150, they had just gotten a delivery of new GF4 MX440's. The guy told me they were just as good as a GF3, but cost £30 less. So I bought one. Wasted my time. Took it back the next day and complained so loudly and for so long I got the GF3 as a direct replacement. Ergo, I got a GF3 for £120, in the end.

[@CovenantAgentLazarus]

Stupid comment.

[@jonchapman6821]

I’ve got a 4200ti and a 4600ti, I didn’t know that I wanted a 4400ti until I saw this video.

[@SPNG]

I'm happy with my 4200 but some people have a soft spot for this card, I can understand why given it can easily reach a 4600 in clock speeds!

[@TheVanillatech]

I have a bunch of Ti4200's, and a Gainward Ti4800 SE.

[@kommandokodiak6025]

Have you ever seen anyone expose the bare die of these cards (under the black surface--is that the same plastic used on ram chips?)

[@supabass4003]

I had an Albatron 4200ti 64mb, I remember when overclocking it I thought RIVAtuner wasn't working properly because I got over 300mhz on the core and god knows what on the memory, pretty sure the slider didn't have far to go. I used it with a 700mhz P3 (it was my mums work computer LOL), which made for some pretty interesting bottlenecks at the time - I was only 12 and this was my introduction to GPUs/CPUs and overclocking them myself. Great time to be a kid!

[@SPNG]

Reminds me of when I would try to tune my old X1650 PRO as a kid. Good times 🙂

[@TheVanillatech]

Dude that 4200 was being strangled :D Needed at least a 1Ghz P3 to get started, but even that would have crippled the card in many titles.

[@SEOdev]

I got a ti 4400 for free with a motherboard I paid £120 for when I was at uni. It was a beast at the time

[@SPNG]

Nice, that would have been quite a deal for the time!

[@SEOdev]

@SPNG I didn't even realise quite how good until it came. It was an nvidia motherboard, I think it was an nforce chipset. Something like that. It wasn't the most stable setup but no budget setups we're back then.

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

I had a 4200 and overclocked it. It was a good card but was quickly Overshadowed by the Radeon 9000 series.

[@SPNG]

I think it remained viable for a little while after due to its cheap availability on the used market! Performance and features wise though it definitely couldn't measure up to what the 9000 series had in store.

[@TheVanillatech]

I kept my Ti4800 SE for years, as I only played Quake III OSP exclusively from 1999 to 2004. Eventually I had to move to a 6800GT because I wanted to play Doom 3, Butcher Bay, Quake 4 etc. But I kept the 4800SE. Still get use out it today in an old rig.

[@ThePred2009]

i had the leadtek geforce4 ti 4400 back in the day so good!!!!

[@zooteddd]

I had the 4200 and clocked it at 300mhz too. It was such a good card and the rest of the stack seemed pointless to me at the time

[@SPNG]

It was a really strong option for the price, pretty much THE card to buy even compared to everything else NVIDIA or ATI was offering!

[@CMDRSweeper]

Back in that day, I got a Ti 4600 as at that time I had 2 GPUs I could chose between, the GeForce 3 Ti 500 or the GeForce 4 Ti 4600. For the rig those two cards went into, you can say it was pretty much a waste either way, but it was a temporary install. What I used these cards in was an AMD K6-2 running at 350 MHz, naturally bottlenecking the 4600 to hell. I was given a 800 MHz AMD Duron later that I ran until I came across a deal I couldn't pass up. Epox Nforce 2 motherboard, an Athlon XP 2000+ which I later swapped out for an Athlon Mobile 2500+ for the crazy overclocking it offered. The later half of that Ti 4600's life was served in that Athlon XP and was probably where it got to run at it's full potential.

[@jonchapman6821]

That AMD K6-2 350 would have bottlenecked any GeForce, even a GF2 MX200 which was slower than the original 256 SDR But hey, I’m running a GeForce 4 MX440 in a 400MHz Pentium II system because I don’t have anything more suitable 😆

[@retroianer3835]

I had a Ti 4200 128MB from Chaintech in 2002, but this card was broken after 1 mounth. I took a Asus Ti 4400 128MB for 299€, about 60€ more than the Ti 4200, a good price. I used it (overclocked to 310MHz core and 690 MHz memory) until I have upgraded in 2003 to a Hercules 3D Prophet 9800 Pro 128MB. The 4400/4600 cards also have a better quality PCB than the Ti4200 cards. Only Asus had a special 4200 128MB with the 4400/4600 PCB and faster BGA memory chips.

[@SPNG]

This card was pretty good if you wanted to get flagship performance for cheap, almost all 4400s should be capable of doing 4600 speeds! Pretty cool that you could more or less get a top of the line card for upper mid range money.

[@benjaminfrohns]

I ran my ti 4200 128MB at 280/250. Maybe there was more to be had, but teenager me didn't know.

[@SPNG]

Maybe I just have good luck of the draw but that's still not a bad overclock! I'm sure it would have been just as fast as a Ti 4400 at those settings.

[@benjaminfrohns]

@@SPNG It was just as fast and that was sufficient for me. I felt great I saved that money.

[@kucharz07]

cool

[@SPNG]

👍

[@DuneRunnerEnterprises]

Had 4200ti,not the others.

[@SPNG]

I can see why, it was a super fast card for the money!

[@crxxpslvyr7887]

1:30 you lest out the ti 4800

[@SPNG]

I figured the Ti 4800 wasn't worth mentioning as it was pretty much the same as the Ti 4600 but with AGP 8x support. Same goes for the Ti 4200-8X and Ti 4800 SE

[@spg3331]

Great video

[@SPNG]

Much appreciated 🙏