Gemini Monsters - Failed Cards and Mechanics in YuGiOh

[@user-ashborn16]

If Gemini were also considered as normal while in the hand or deck, that would help the mechanic a lot more

[@brandol75]

or they could be treated as normal monsters anywhere and change the normal summon to gemini summon where it would not count to the normal summon of the turn but have only one gemini summon on each of your turn.

[@MrBusrunner]

And still also count as normal monsters while they have their effects, allowing them to take advantage of normal monster support.

[@XmortoxX1990]

If they errata the Gemini monsters to be normal monsters on hand and a couple of broken Gemini monsters, they might get to Rogue deck status

[@alial-kateeb5267]

While i don't mind this as a change i prefer the following effect monster gemini aka start with an effect and gain an additional effect instead The main reason for this cards like goggle golem tuning magician might as well stay normal monsters even after the second nornal summon

[@Bezaliel13]

But then actual Vanillas would have been powercrept... *even more than usual.*

[@zad_rasera]

Geminis having hand effects sounds like a genius idea, actually.

[@kenadams8385]

Yeh but can you imagine how much text would be on those cards 😵 what about Pendulum Gemini monsters? That have Pendulum effects that let you have additional normal summons for Gemini monsters

[@jasonguo2141]

There are pendulum gemini monsters? 😂

[@Ramsey276one]

Towel Goblin (Basically a Coach Goblin Apprentice. The art is basically HIM trying to save Giant Orc... XD) [Gemini/Tuner/Effect] If a Gemini monster is targeted bu your opponent, you can Special Summon this card from your Hand, and if you do, you can change that monster’s battle position or change the target to this card. This card is treated as a Normal Monster while in the field or Graveyard . You can Normal Summon this card on the field to gain the following effect. * TBA

[@Ramsey276one]

@@jasonguo2141 I wrote up Gemini FLIP MONSTERS TurnCroc (Reptile, of course XD )

[@gkarak1996]

@@kenadams8385 not really. You could a simple effect of (treated as a normal monster regardless of location). Then add an effect to have, and an effect to gain while treated as a normal monster plus the standard effect of addition normal summon to gain the second effect.

[@suddenllybah]

Konami forgot to give them really good effects. less than a minute in, and I dead.

[@qty1315]

It's kind of sad that most of all Gemini monsters wouldn't even be played if they just had their Gemini effects normally. I can only think of, like, 3 Gemini cards with good effects.

[@seanr.6498]

It's honestly astonishing that Gemini monsters and coin flip cards have the same problem of the effects being so bad that you could remove them gimmicks and they'd still be mediocre.

[@dcarnegie1992]

With all honesty I'm surprised the Gemini monsters weren't better they should have always counted as a normal monster plus all lvl 4 monsters have 1500 atk and 1500 def with a different effects and make them all once per turn on effects like not being destroyed by battle for one Not being destroyed by card effects for another Gain 1000 atk for one Gain 1000 def for another Negate and destroy a spell for one Negate and destroy a trap for another Negate and destroy a monster for another Become a tuner for one Reduce level by 1 or 2 for one Increase level by 1 or 2 for another Excavate for 1 Recycle for 1 Then have a like 6 different level 6 one per type And another 6 level 8 Geminis one per type But can't have all decks being worth it I guess 😂

[@bobfat9458]

Just like a gemini player at locals

[@jayclearmen411]

@@dcarnegie1992 or if they were gonna give em that awful mechanic they should’ve made the effects that triggered better….. {Once per turn : you can change the type of this monster. Once per turn: you can change the attribute of a monster.} both effects on same monster. target an destroy 1 monster your opponent controls when this card is sent from the hand or field to the GY. Target one normal or gemini monster except this card an return it to your hand. Send 1 card from your hand to the GY or reveal 1 Normal monster in your hand. LIGHT an DARK monsters cannot be special summoned. Twice per turn this face up card cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects. This card gains 500 ATK and DEF for each face-up Normal monster on the field. As long as this card remain on the field, increase the ATK of all normal/gemini monsters on the field by 500 and decrease the ATK of all tuner synchro xyz link monsters by 500 Before Damage Calculation, if this card is attacked by an opponent’s monster, an is in face-up ATtack or DEFense position at the start of the damage step. Inflict damage to your opponent equal to attacking monster’s ATK. This card is unaffected by the effects of synchro xyz pendulum link monsters. when this card is destroyed by battle with a monster from the extra deck and sent to the GY. Activate 1 of these effects depending on the type of monster. synchro your opponent banishes 1 card from the extra deck facedown xyz choose 1 card in your opponents extra deck and send it to your opponents GY pendulum your opponent banishes as many pendulum cards on the field as possible but not more than the monsters lv/rank link both players draw 1 card.

[@jacobwoodman4488]

One thing I never understood about Spirit, Gemini and Toon monsters, is that they all have a specific tag on the card, but still explain their effects in the effect description. I feel like you could easily put those distinctions in the game's rulebook, and explain what those tags mean, while being able to create more types of them, just like how they explain Synchro, Xyz, Link and Fusion monsters. For example, they could make a normal spirit monster with this ruling, making them returning to their hand a game mechanic, instead of an activated effect. This would also let them retroactively change the way these cards work, like letting gemini monsters be normal monsters everywhere as a game mechanic, and having tenyi cards work for them, as it is a game mechanic that they are normal, and not an effect to treat them as such

[@burner555]

Tenyi asks for *non-Effect* monsters, Gemini are Effect monsters with a special ability

[@williamdrum9899]

I love this idea!

[@trbd]

Lots of earlier yugioh cards actually had that kind of thing in their effect description until erratas erased most of the bloat. I think (and i could be wrong but) early fusion monsters used to explain that they can only be summoned by polymerization until erratas just simplify it to just [material 1]+[material 2] But yeah, introducing specific vocabularies is actually a very straightforward idea, which makes me wonder why they havent implemented it yet considering they acknowledged how bloated the card effects became. Maybe because of how many of these mechanics/rulings/effects only apply to very specific archetypes?

[@PhredLevi]

It's a sham e Geminis didn't come out when Pendulums were a thing, they could have taken some inspiration from them and have the card background be a gradient that is effect colored on the top and normal colored on the bottom.

[@LazurBeemz]

it pisses me off that Gemini, Toon, Union, and Spirit monsters exist at all. Konami REALLY thought these mfs would be so common in the game that they needed their own special tag next to Type / Effect.

[@Kerim9991]

they look so out of place

[@gotdamn4989]

spirits and unions were all actually pretty decent at a time

[@rashanmcrae9166]

@@gotdamn4989 an still are, toons are a heck a lot better than they were before but Gemini's have, is, and always will be terrible just because their gemini's

[@qty1315]

@@rashanmcrae9166 I find it amusing how they thought Toons would be broken so they gave them so many handicaps. -Not being able to attack directly without Toon World -Not being able to attack on the turn they are summoned -Paying 500 life points when they attack -Being destroyed if Toon World is destroyed -Most of them are high-level monsters Just one or two handicaps would have been fine, Konami.

[@rashanmcrae9166]

@@qty1315 anyone who saw the anime thought they were toons could avoid attack an not take any damage toon world was crazy in you turns were protected by it and the card shadow cat was broken in the anime since OT could copy any card with no restraint. But all of that was in the anime not real if and toons were nurfed stupidly

[@nanya524]

Fun fact, Il Blud was a TCG original monster, which is probably why it was one of the only good ones. Also, the spellcaster level 6 version of Il Blud/Gigaplant that revived Yubel from the graveyard was fun. You could turn 1 Yubel's 2nd form by using Dark Grepher and Swing of Memories and then you have a level 11 monster on the field that goes Dark Hole every turn.

[@KyunaCookies]

They need protection, and interruption negation, like this Gemini Reaction: Gemini monsters that are treated as effect monsters are unaffected by card effects and gain 500 atk. Once per turn you can special summon 1 Gemini monster from your hand, and if you do, normal summon 1 Gemini monster. You can only use this effect of "Gemini Reaction" once per turn

[@GameModJr]

issue is that you'd just normal the same monster you SS'd. if it was "and if you do, normal summon 1 Gemini monster on the field except the monster special summoned by this effect." it would be better. Personally, I think they need a trap along the lines of: Once per turn,If this card would be destroyed by a card or effect, you can destroy 1 Gemini monster you control instead. While this card is face-up on the field, and you control a Gemini monster that has gained its effect(s), apply the following effect: •All face up main deck effect monster(s) on the field, except Gemini monsters, are treated as Normal Monster(s) and lose their effect(s). The turn player may normal summon 1 face up effect monster that is currently treated as a normal monster by this effect to have it become an effect monster and gain its effect(s).

[@thatguyshaq7053]

As a guy that runs a red-eyes archtype, I just appreciate giving the RE gemini monsters decent enough effects. Red eyes has enough support to make getting them on the field simple enough. Black flare is a nice punisher and meteor give good support to other RE on the field.

[@gabrielshields198]

Can you imagine if they made a link monster that keep it Gemini type but when it’s Gemini summon have a continuous effect: while this card is on the field non-Gemini effect monster are treated as Gemini on the field. This effect will force opponent that use special summon that have powerful effect to be treated as Gemini when summon and have to use their normal summon to gain back their effect. Beside that Gemini monster was my first deck that I use. I hope this sub-type improve.

[@CD-Gaming]

I actually came up with a Custom Archetype a while back that I keep meaning to do a little more work on where the Monsters all have the Effect that they count as Normal Monsters while face-up on the Field, instead having Effects that went off in the Hand and/or Graveyard, but they were NOT Gemini Monsters! I called them "Wisp"! They could easily work with Justi Break and Champion since a couple were Lv 8, you could also use Thunder End Dragon with them as well! There would be a Lv 4 that you could Summon out and have 2000 ATK; A Lv 3 Tuner that could be Special Summoned if you control a Normal Monster(s); One Lv 8 who could be Tribute Summoned using 1 Normal Monster; And a partner who could be Special Summoned if you control a Lv 8 Normal Monster; Along with other cards who would do stuff for face-up Normal Monsters and/or Monsters Summoned using Normal Monster! Like I say, I need to go back to that at some point, give it some more Monsters, some Archetype Spells/Traps, although if anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them! Also, it's "Xyz Material", not "XYZ Material"! It is not even similar!

[@rejectx7798]

Red Eyes Black Flare Dragon and Red Eyes Archfiend of Lightning are both pretty decent Gemini Monsters, especially Black Flare Dragon where if you attack with it, at the end of the battle phase, you deal 2400 Damage to your Opponent as a sort of sneak attack. It’s also easy to pull off :D

[@korrafey1044]

I had a gemin-eyes deck with a chemicritter engine. It used to work pretty well back in the day before hand traps and solitaire

[@braxtonneeley2946]

That Gemini structure deck was my introduction to yugioh I learned quickly Geminis were a weak archetype but I still absolutely loved the card art for the boss monster glad Phoenix Gearfried got a decent retrain atleast

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

I am still surprised there aren't Gemini monsters that emulate effect of Banned cards. Like A Gemini monster whose Gemini effect is "Once per turn: You can draw 2 cards", or "Once per turn: target 1 monster in either player's GY; Special Summon it". Or more "meta" effects like "a Quick Effect Omni-negate" That would at least let them probably see some competitive game

[@GameModJr]

considering cards like Reptinus, Ablation, and supervise exist, they wouldn't print those kind of gemini effects.

[@williamdrum9899]

Magic did this a few times and it turned out well

[@skyslasher2297]

I’d there a reason why catalyst field can’t have the same effect as the fusion

[@TheDuelLogs]

Gigaplant. Basically all gemini support has to be designed around not making Gigaplant broken

[@skyslasher2297]

@@TheDuelLogs seriously goddamn It Konami

[@zad_rasera]

Ban Gigaplant pre-emptively, and then go crazy with releasing broken Gemini support. You can thank me later, Konami.

[@icigo12]

love your videos

[@TheDuelLogs]

Thanks!

[@Golden-Monarch-One]

Soo, I’ve been playing recently, nearly complete with Gemini Summoning 100 Monsters. With the ban of Terraforming, one thing Gemini support can use is a way to search Dimer Synthesis, be an Effect monster to specifically for Dimer Synthesis. And then that effect Monster, ideally a Chemicritter, has a Once Per Turn where it can target 1 Normal Monster that can be Gemini Summoned, and treat it as an Effect monster until the end of turn. Chemicritter need a Rank/Link 2 Chimecritter to assist in treat Gemini monsters in hand as Normal Monsters and or Special Summon them as Effect Monsters. With some kind of decent protection.

[@SorenFE93]

And this is why I love playing my Chemicritter deck. They are unique and not a lot of people actually heard of them. Gemini Ablation and Evocator Eveque helped out this deck A LOT. Honestly, I've managed to pull off some cool combos. Especially with Catalyst Field. Now am I gonna win every single time? Nope. But it is a fun deck to use because occasionally I see some good wins.

[@phoenixgemini42]

I remember buying the Phoenix Gearfried structure deck and just stomping my friends in grades 4-8ish. Granted they mainly used pure structure decks and I modified mine a bit, but still. Foolish burial Gearfried, summon blazewing butterfly and give its effect somehow, summon Gearfried and then resummon blazewing with Gearfried's effect. It was a fairly good strategy against other structure decks at the time. To this day Phoenix Gearfried is my favorite card and I just wish the Gemini mechanic was better designed.

[@marlow1586]

i love that the actually useful gemini support seems to mainly just negate the gemini gimmick instead of making that gimmick an engaging and strategic mechanic.

[@IricAlexis]

1st. they need to fully decide to treat default gemini monster as effect or normal monster. 2nd. they need to change the rule of normal summon at field to be a special summon if some condition met (like there is field or continues trap/spell exist or some gemini boss monster exist) then after second summon gemini will be treated fully as effect monster until they got banished. (the effect can stay after they got second summon, it's can ruled by their card name or unique to that card alone until they got banished)

[@DestroAzureDx]

You've given me a new phrase to sum up yugioh. "Konami releases Pre power crept cards for whatever reason".

[@HapsterHap]

I’d really like to see a “Top 10 cards that require you to discard as a cost”. I feel like there’s a lot of good ones, but I don’t really know anymore since so many have been power crept.

[@SpeedTy24]

Back in the past of Duel Links one of my main decks was Red-Eyes who had some Gemini support such as Red-Eyes Archfiend of Lightning, I guess for them at least the addition of making them Gemini was to make sure they had support for cards supporting Normals but still give cards effects at the same time. But if I were to give a new support card for the archetype, I would like to see a Gemini only card that acts like Birthright and other cards (perform special summoning) which let's you choose to either make the special summoned card become a Non Effect, a Normal, or an Effect monster to open up whatever path you wanted to do for the deck, such as Summoning out a big beatstick to be a non effect monster which can be helpful with the Tenyi cards.

[@burnum]

The downsides to both Cyber Dragon & GAF is in it's effect. With Cyber Dragon, you can't have monsters on your side of the field for the special summon. There's also System Down, which banishes all face up Machine monsters your opponent controls and all in their graveyard. And with GAF it has 0 DEF. Funny, Golknight is now out in the TCG, and was so recently in the set Burst of Destiny.

[@kennydarmawan13]

In Magic: the Gathering, there's a mechanic called Monstrosity, which involves paying an extra cost to buff a creature. And I can safely say that the mechanic is a LOT better than Gemini because it doesn't require waiting another turn to do so. The only issue with the mechanic is that it has no way to indicate its new buffed status and the fact that if it loses its +1/+1 counters, you mostly go back to square one. Which is why Renown and Adapt exist, both serving as more refined versions of monstrosity, the former having a more direct way to level itself up and the latter solving the issue of the +1/+1 counters being removed.

[@erey619z]

Back in 2018 in Duel Links Gemini decks saw a little bit of competitive play for a short period of time due to Gemini Spark. The deck won a couple of DLM tournaments and was definitely KOG Worthy. Gemini Spark came in a good main box so was worth getting it.

[@Sokaras3]

Hand effect sounds cool. Would also be nice if some geminis also had efffect to he treated as normal monster everywhere

[@BloodfelX]

I'm surprised Doom Shaman didn't see any play, what with Il Blud having potential and a similar effect. I think it combos pretty well with Doomsday Horror - which can be used to further extend Infernity decks (see Infernity General), though having to run a Gemini monster engine in an Infernity deck does sound unappealing to say the least.

[@alexanderrobins7497]

Doom Shaman is one of my favorite cards I run in a couple decks. Special summon Yubel, activate Catalyst Field’s second effect to destroy a card and get Yubel - Terror Incarnate, then continue to use Doom Shaman and Catalyst Field. I love how I can keep recycling fiends for synchro material too.

[@emred4653]

it had potential but felt too slow

[@kroffen7]

Gemini cards in Red Eyes makes me sad. Also, top 10 list for for best generic support for each typing maybe? :o

[@markmorris2856]

You missed what I think was the best Gemini deck that actually saw competitive play. Gigaplant, plant synchro with power tool dragons. Use lonefire to dump two lone fires in grave and get gigaplant out, equip supervise, get back lone fire, use lonefire to get spore or glow up bulb. Synchro with gigaplant to get powertool, supervise gets gigaplant back, use power tool with two supervise as targets to repeat or mark or the rose or there is a monster reborn equip card if you have three copies of the same name card in the grave (lonefire).

[@underbandit2372]

Honestly they should release cards that are similar to Gemini Summoner but they are summoned with their actual effects instead of just being summoned. As well as more cards similar to catalyst field that directly helps Gemini monsters be more impactful and useful. Or even making archetype specific Gemini monsters like Elemental Hero Neos Alius that could have very useful effects for good archetypes that could make Gemini monsters more viable while still being able to contribute to other archetypes in the process.

[@nothingreallyrhymeswithora9377]

In theory, Gemini cards could have been good for their generation. The problem is, for some stupid reason, most of them had really subpar/average effects for eating up another summon. They should have been designed to be more extreme. For example, hell, Goggle Golem could have made its effect be a 3000 ATK when double-summoned. It would have made the card solid for its time without being OP.

[@ZR3009]

Although i like them because they're treated as Normal Monster, I should agree on this one. Konami should make a card where the player who resolved it gained the effect of "All Gemini monster on your side of the field become an Effect Monster and gains its effect, also their effects cannot be negated." for the rest of this duel.

[@Rabidfox-gc5fw]

I actually like Geminis as a mechanic but I will admit that they were slow even for the time they were introduced. There's been many fixes for them thanks to Pendulums and some direct support over the years. Even then, they're a favorite of mine but I don't expect to win at locals with them anytime soon. Oh well that's what Drytron-Ursas and Graydle-Kaiju are for

[@Erick7Greenday]

Gemini was my first proper deck (back then when the first Phoenix Gearfried was released), and I really loved playing them. I was "the Gemini boy" with my group of fellow duelists in high school. I ended up mixing it with a pure warrior variant, into Stardust Dragon/Assault Mode, into forgetting the type alltogether. I dunno, I still like them.

[@charlesdemarest1171]

Hmm, no mention of the Red-eyes Black Flare Dragon or the Meteor Dragon Red-eyes Impact. They must've had some use in the past...

[@Aikisbest]

Im kinda sad Gemini monsters never took off, because I think it is a cool mechanic somehow, and I think someone should really make a curated format with only gemini cards, gemini support, similar cards that fit because of archtype etc and a curated list of spells and traps, that would be really interesting.

[@MMORPGFreaky]

0:41 the goggles are not his eyes? omg my childhood

[@Scarecrow545]

All this being true, Red-Eyes Black Flare Dragon's Gemini effect can still be a duel-ender in the late game.

[@anthonyanderson3448]

It's funny ran a Gemini/normal deck. And because it acted as a normal card in graveyard I would send them to the graveyard and special summon them the normal summon. Best with swing of memories. Then use butterfly effect to give Gemini effects when summon. Its how you build the deck.

[@justaguy3310]

And now Gemini is a good edison deck

[@abcdefgh5808]

Konami: Makes cards that require 2 summons. Also Konami: Any support cards that make them remotely viable remove that mechanic

[@genshinminutes2561]

1. Give them a support spell and trap that only affect a Gemini. 2. Make new support monster archetype that works with them well in specific. 3. Add better Gemini with hand trap effects.

[@neilgoldman2733]

As a kid I was confused as to how to use Geminis. I thought the effects applied the first time the monster was summoned but in the games it didn't work like that and you had to summon it twice somehow. Like you play the card then it leaves the field and then you can Gemini summon it. It just didn't make sense and I never read any ruling on how you actually Gemini summon.

[@AnimatedIdiotGuide]

I never realized just how many of these normal monster support cards were meant to synergies with Gemini monsters. Says a lot about that archetype

[@Urubu_de_terno]

Man... That video really made me miss my red eyes deck... I know its probably useless right now and I don't give two skull servants about links... Still, Red Eyes Black Dragon was my first "boss" monster and I really went overboard to make it work in the early 2000 (yes it didn't went well).

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

A lot needs to be done to fix Geminis. (1) We need to free up card text space by removing the need to have the Gemini "effect" plastered on every card. They already have the Gemini subtype, so just let that do the heavy lifting in the rulebook like it does for Tuner. You now have the same amount of space on the card as you would for normal Effect monsters. (2) Make them count as Normal Monsters (and Gemini Monsters) in all locations except when Gemini Summoned. This affords them all Normal Monster support which they sorely need. (3) Make GOOD GEMINI MONSTERS. I cannot stress this enough, there are next to no good Gemini monsters on the field. (4) Make good Gemini support cards. The focus on just getting the effects of Geminis just makes them effect monsters with extra steps. Instead, their support should offer different benefits based on whether they are Normal or Effect monsters, making the true "trick" to Gemini being its versatility by manipulating whether they are Effect monsters or not.

[@Reaperscreepers]

I never realized that Jiren was featured in a card, lol

[@zearcjustice7837]

imagine if konami just go crazy with gemini's effect , then we will an era of "wtf gemini"

[@brsurvivor1]

How about another episode in this series talking about Union monsters?

[@bob123789456]

the solution to gemini monsters: make support that pretends they aren't gemini monsters anymore

[@thatonepersonyouknowtheone7781]

the only thing that puts me off playing a gemini deck in Duel Links is that they dont get hand or deck normal support. It's such a necessary thing to make them playable that I dont think any support, at all, will be able to make them powerful enough to see play without changing it for at least some gemini monsters

[@afeathereddinosaur]

The mechanic could've been revamped if they printed Pendulum Gemini monsters, kind of like a "tribute" for pendulums, you use your normal summon that normally remains unused for great effects or extra attack/defense

[@carpedm9846]

I think they shouldve just made geminis boss monsters. If you cant stop the gemini monster, it gets an absurdly powerful effect that makes it very hard to get rid of, like how A-to-Z Dragon Buster Cannon Tank Lazer Destructor Blaster Whatever is a terrifying boss....limited by how hard it is to summon it. Alternatively, I dont get why Geminis cant have effects on the field, and then get additional effects when normal summoned. Make them effect monster that gain additional effects when re-normal summoned. Like, "once per turn, banish a card from your GY, destroy 1 card on the field, if this card has been gemini summoned, you can instead banish from your opponent's GY as cost" or "once per turn, negate the activation of a spell card, and if you do, if this card has been gemini summoned, destroy 1 card on the field."

[@henriquegabriel798]

I find annoying that the ancient gear knight is an gemini monster. Its annoying that i have to lose one summon to him become an effect monster to negate traps when he attacks. About ill blood . I love that card

[@joshfarmer8408]

I choose to believe that if Gemini monsters were ever introduced into rush duels with unlimited normal summons they still wouldn't be good

[@Zetact_]

The problem with Gemini is that Konami treats it as an archetype instead of a mechanic and all the support that they get continues to do so, which is why they need to make it so underwhelming just to prevent some obscure potential combo it does. There is a reason why Neos Alius, Gigaplant and Il Blud are the standout examples of good Gemini monsters, it's because they worked within their decks instead of being part of Gemini.dek. Old, weaker mechanics CAN see a revival in decks that are made to be good and just incidentally use the mechanic. Say, Shaddoll - people don't consider it a "Flip Monster Deck" but they have really strong Flip Effect Monsters. Imagine if you tried to rebalance the Shaddoll deck and changed all the instances in the effects where they support "Shaddoll" into supporting Flip effects as a whole - you'd end up with cards that would be made awful out of necessity since they'd be looking at the entire pool of cards instead of just what their own deck does. To "fix" Gemini requires not saying, "Oh we need to find support that makes King Pyron not awful" and more "let's forget all of that and just make a deck that uses Gemini as a gimmick."

[@JesusNav]

Been waiting for this one

[@boogliejooglie3700]

What about the effect monsters that have effects that support or protect Geminis like Summoner, featherizer, energy bravery, or woodland archer. Also red knight of lotus.

[@EsplodingBomb]

Never understood why they are not normal monsters in deck or hand, it would at least allow you to use all the normal support to try and make them work

[@Story_Trail]

I really like this series

[@Jips907]

Spirit,Toons,Flip are the only good sub type in the game Unions don't count since most union cards aren't treated as union so it's basically an equip effect

[@TheStyler2710]

I randomly saw you in the comments of Okayu's mogu mogu today :D

[@SAMURIADI]

spirits did the "needa to be normal summoned" WAY better than geminis

[@LunarSoul255]

....yknow after hearing it out loud, I only now, after however many years, that Neos Alius is meant to be read like "Neos Alias" Konami at it again with those quality card translations, ain't that right, Fusioh Richie?

[@xpiredgamer2727]

Love the videos my friend!

[@jthegamer3686]

*Laughs in red eyes baby dragon into red eyes arch fiend*

[@ApexZer0]

Maybe an ultimate offering type card but only for Gemini summons could work

[@thedeekabides]

I can run Crusader of Endymion ONLY because I have ways to Special Summon it easily in my Spellcaster deck. If I didn’t have Magical Exemplar, Magician’s Circle, etc., I wouldn’t touch it. But a free +600 ATK and spell counter per turn is beastly with Power of the Guardians. Pretty much a free +1600 ATK per turn if I can pull it off

[@brycecai4700]

I remember my classmates in primary school used ancient rule to summon obelisk the tormenter, good times

[@juvielmartineztorres8425]

They should honestly be treated as Normal Monsters in Hand and in Deck so that they can get so many support cards

[@theamericanbrotherofmightg3734]

Konami just needs to add a rule mecanic that if the card is a gemini it counts as a Effect Monster and a Normal Monster at the same time in the hand or Deck.

[@KZRE_Wave]

You forgot to mention Gemini Trap Hole

[@binkyboy9]

Only Gemini monster I ever used was Gigaplant

[@blackwingBF]

My first deck was actually gemini. My play style was more like a syncro deck, which I revive tune magician a lot to do syncro monster. It was actually pretty decent at first cause the meta wasn't fast. But it falled off hard after about a year.

[@thetntmaster3127]

Question can summoning a Gemini monster the first time be considered summoning a normal monster for pricing the darkness

[@gamecitysavior2910]

In duel duel links are they releasing the card packs in the same oder as they did in real life or are they doing their own thing?

[@ermenegildol.1560]

What if all Gemini monsters where treated as normal monsters in the hand as well? How good would that make them?

[@ENCHANTMEN_]

It seems like Konami has a habit of introducing interesting mechanics, but not giving them useful enough effects to justify their cost. I wonder what yugioh would be like if unions and geminis were given good effects and caught on as a mechanic...

[@anotherluke4710]

My brain: Vola-Chemicritter Methydraco? Oh, I get it, like volatile chemical, and the methyl group, which is related to a lot of combustible materials and readily reacts with oxygen. Oh, and it's a fire attribute too! Also my brain: did Konami not see the problem with putting the words "chem" and "meth" in a card for a game that targets children?

[@Karmatic928]

They are pretty good in duel links. Was dueling some guy and if it wasn't for the fact I was using red eyes he would have won from how much of my field he was popping

[@mm25224]

The tenyi archtype does help gemini cards, i have tested it,

[@melleen629]

The fact that geminis are not normal in the hand or deck makes them completely unplayable. If you need to either normal summon or dump them in in gy to utilise that, it just means you are absolutely always gonna see them where u dont need them

[@sugarsmile7852]

I guess spirit monsters are the only main deck monsters mechanics that good

[@JellyfishHannibal]

This reminds me of a deck I tried to build with zombie world and il blud. That was at the height of the synchro age and I tried cheesing out majestic stardust dragon. I think it worked literally once, worst deck of all time. It was fun though.

[@kira1987bad]

This failed mechs vídeos are Awesome

[@kookou13]

Geminis would be so strong if their field spell makes it so opponents have to normal summon again all of their monsters to make them have their effects while you wouldnt have to lol.

[@Pepe__7]

Top 10 goblins

[@draconicodyssey7865]

Chenicritters are actually pretty good, though mostly just due to the field spell. If not for catalyst field, they'd be complete trash. Though while it's fun to play, I wouldn't take it into competitive.

[@MasterfulPaladin]

Konami: New Gemini Monsters! No? Damn... Konami: New Support for Gemini! No? Damn... Konami: New Gemini Field Spell and Archetype! No? Damn... Damn, Konami REALLY seem to want Gemini monsters to be good, but are afraid of making them broken to ever make them good enough to hold up

[@ffjj3964]

Here an Idea to fix the mechanic. Instead: “This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the GY. While this card is a Normal Monster on the field, you can Normal Summon it to have it become an Effect Monster with this effect.” Why not: “This card is treated as a Normal Monster while face-up on the field or in the GY. If this card was Normal Summoned to the field it become an Effect Monster with this effect.” It similar with what they did with Ritual Monster.

[@poktfny]

Also you forgot their scynchro monster black brutdrago

[@MoonMoverGaming]

Most Geminis wouldn't be good even if they didn't require two summons. That's how tame their effects are. 🎻♊

[@Sokaras3]

Would adding rule that once per turn you have a single free "Gemini summon" (turn genemi into effect)? Similarly how once per turn we have pendulum summon once per turn

[@surtrgaming1730]

I wish Geminis were better (and that some of the newer Geminis weren't made in a way where they don't work with Supervise)

[@roanoke42]

if gemini monsters functioned the same way as dragon spirit of white or simorgh, they would be way better. they still wouldnt be very good, but theyd be better

[@sandroheliobarbosa3702]

Make gemini Monsters also trheated lula a normal Monsters in the deck. So they can been target by spells cards like unexpected dai.