Gen Z Rappers vs Millennial Rappers: feat. James Francis

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@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 16 күн бұрын
AYE!!! James Francis is the illest! Love seeing him on here!
@TheCinnyBun
@TheCinnyBun 15 күн бұрын
we need you on here!!!!
@peacecraftadams623
@peacecraftadams623 15 күн бұрын
Mr. Company- i speak for a lot of Z’ers asking kindly to invite our Brother Francis to the Union of the OG‘s. sincerely
@TheCompanyMan
@TheCompanyMan 15 күн бұрын
@@peacecraftadams623 done
@LordLav
@LordLav 15 күн бұрын
London Posse did their thing back in the early 90s with their album ‘Gangster Chronicles’ and imo they were every bit as good as the likes of the native tongues movement (Tribe, De La, Jungle Bros etc) amongst other early 90s US rap. Obvs they didn’t have nearly the impact as more recent UK artists but I remember there was at least some crossover… Part of this being down to them being distinctly British. Which wasn’t so in vogue in the UK at the time…
@jamesfrancisx
@jamesfrancisx 16 күн бұрын
I tried guys 😂😂😂😂
@RblastonYT
@RblastonYT 16 күн бұрын
@@jamesfrancisx you were fighting an uphill battle. I know millennials started early as well but they had more people who went through artist development.
@bing6010
@bing6010 16 күн бұрын
@@jamesfrancisx you did well. And I’m clearly at auntie status. Generally think that this was a challenging comparison to do. I’m frankly tired of always comparing work to others instead of just looking at it for what it is in its own. At any rate, I like hearing your takes and seeing you, I hope you do more in the future.
@Blebona
@Blebona 16 күн бұрын
Bro, you threw haymakers in the first round 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@lavernhooks6672
@lavernhooks6672 16 күн бұрын
Hey, look what u have to work with! But look at what great experience you had with two great rap journalists!
@ldn_vin
@ldn_vin 16 күн бұрын
You did your thing, brother. Great takes and great insight.
@whoisslade45
@whoisslade45 16 күн бұрын
Honestly gen x vs millennial needs to be redone with an arbiter cause that wasn’t a balanced rating imo
@daphnelavigne7238
@daphnelavigne7238 16 күн бұрын
I agree. I think Torre is too biased to Gen X and I’m Gen X 😅 I think Millennials did have a big impact to hip hop and there were some great artist from that generation.
@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime
@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime 16 күн бұрын
Toure knew he was on some bs he was just being an old head😂
@sK0pe-d9b
@sK0pe-d9b 14 күн бұрын
I think Gen X wins every time. 😂
@beatrixxkiddo3572
@beatrixxkiddo3572 10 күн бұрын
It was soooooo biased because it was a couple of Ws we should’ve had, one being Nicki!
@MusicJunkiePlus
@MusicJunkiePlus 16 күн бұрын
Gen X checking in! Even though we knew it was gonna be landslide, this was a FUN conversation! The way y’all pick on each other and the laughter… maaan, music commentary needs more of that ✌️
@MartyMcFly__25
@MartyMcFly__25 16 күн бұрын
Mavi and Redveil name drops are great to hear!!
@whoisslade45
@whoisslade45 16 күн бұрын
Frfr
@AARON-gt4qe
@AARON-gt4qe 16 күн бұрын
Let’s not forget about MIKE
@wydmatt7294
@wydmatt7294 11 күн бұрын
i think mavi is a better lyricist/rapper than redveil
@antiwarmarine6300
@antiwarmarine6300 16 күн бұрын
This is an amazing convo. Really happy to see younger representation making it into this space. AND The audio clipping in this is WILD. Soooo much clipping. Adjust that audio!
@RapLatte
@RapLatte 16 күн бұрын
@@antiwarmarine6300 we had some tech difficulties sorry we area new channel working out the kinks
@patrickvarine8476
@patrickvarine8476 16 күн бұрын
10:30 I think part of the difficulty with British MCs breaking into the US is 1) partly Americans' tough time adjusting to the accent. But 2) there's also some pretty dense slang going on. I'd compare the British slang level to Ghostface Killah in the sense that, sometimes, you just don't know wtf is being said.
@verbage432
@verbage432 16 күн бұрын
Also, New York drill kinda ran off with the UK's whole swag. Granted, drill started in the Chicago but NY ran with the UK's whole production style
@understanding77
@understanding77 15 күн бұрын
Yeah no amount of conditioning is going to get me used to the accent, don’t nobody wanna hear that tea n crumpet ah rhyme scheme 😂
@wydmatt7294
@wydmatt7294 11 күн бұрын
@@understanding77lmao 😭
@charliedalencour5141
@charliedalencour5141 16 күн бұрын
i hate that the doechii’s “spookie choochie” isn’t on her main page cause that song is ICONIC! she’s spitting her ass off
@Mogkween
@Mogkween 15 күн бұрын
The whole second verse of spookie coochie is crazy
@alkumhcounseling8634
@alkumhcounseling8634 16 күн бұрын
Yo, can't get to the gym because of snow but making coffee as this drops let's go
@tampear
@tampear 16 күн бұрын
I love these games and the longer episodes. What about doing a bracket game to determine the best "type" of rapper in different categories?
@user-my7wo8ok2i
@user-my7wo8ok2i 16 күн бұрын
Gen Z rappers haven't had the time to mature.
@seanyoung9014
@seanyoung9014 16 күн бұрын
Big and Pac died when they were 24/25. Nas had two classics by 23. I could go on and on. How much time yall need? 😂
@understanding77
@understanding77 15 күн бұрын
@@seanyoung9014yeah and that’s not the case with these current gen z rappers
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 14 күн бұрын
@@seanyoung9014 There was also less noise in the music industry Pac and Biggie to have to cut through. Also, you do need time to let them mature and grow their audiences. Kendrick was like 25 when he did Good Kid, Maad City, and many would agree it is a classic now, but if you had tried to throw him in a top ten list then, or debate if he could go head to head with the gen x in 2012, it would look a little like how gen z does now. This is the equivalent of running this exercise for the millennials back in 2008ish. We'd have Lil Wayne, who started young, and not much else. That is like 1991 for gen x. 2pac is releasing his first album that year, Biggie isn't out yet, Nas isn't out yet, Jay Z isn't out yet. So unless GenZ got lucky with all their greatest stars being born in 97-05, it is bound to be a short list.
@keystone5917
@keystone5917 9 күн бұрын
@@seanyoung9014this is like me saying a athlete needs time to mature and then you name dropping lebron 😂
@hendrx
@hendrx 8 күн бұрын
@@AShiftingofFate Kendrick is a Millenial
@SumFreshDkaf
@SumFreshDkaf 16 күн бұрын
Curious how this discussion will go, but as someone who was a tail-end millennial coming of age during the blog/mixtape era you have to give some of these gen Z rappers a bit of time. With few exceptions, many millennial rappers didn't peak till their late 20s/early 30s. Odd Future Tyler is a perfect example. I enjoyed his Odd Future era but the quality and range he has as an artist now is incomparable.
@imanilige8183
@imanilige8183 16 күн бұрын
Watching James Francis come on here after seeing him blow up as a voice for Gen Z in the hip hop world is very exciting!
@samthevibe3001
@samthevibe3001 16 күн бұрын
bro the central care vs asap rocky take was crazy 😭
@jamesfrancisx
@jamesfrancisx 16 күн бұрын
I was just tryna win the category I don’t actually believe Cench is better or has more impact than A$AP 😭
@manestreambeauty
@manestreambeauty 16 күн бұрын
Little Simz is a millennial born in 1994. Round five would be Green's by default.
@RapLatte
@RapLatte 16 күн бұрын
I think we let him get 94s
@emotionhealing6110
@emotionhealing6110 16 күн бұрын
@@manestreambeauty it’s a cusp year or gray area so it really depends on the person and, in this case, rap lattes rules. Does Little Simz consider herself gen z? (In my company man voice) I don’t have the answers to these questions😁
@manestreambeauty
@manestreambeauty 15 күн бұрын
I'm going by the rules Touré set 1:47-2:07 it's all in good fun 😂
@robdin81
@robdin81 16 күн бұрын
This is a fun quiz with some interesting discussions in between. Maybe it is fun to make this into a series with a different influencers/creators/streamers in the hiphop space for each episode, just to see what interesting discussions come from having other guests play the same game.
@babyjokermonsta
@babyjokermonsta 15 күн бұрын
Central Cee vs ASAP Rocky is crazy 😂
@RblastonYT
@RblastonYT 16 күн бұрын
Dude I don’t think it’s even fair to compare rn
@ApeSapiens
@ApeSapiens 16 күн бұрын
it's fair, you just don't like the result being modern music being dogshit
@RblastonYT
@RblastonYT 16 күн бұрын
@@ApeSapiensmodern music isn’t trash just that Gen Z is young asf
@AllOverAgain8
@AllOverAgain8 16 күн бұрын
​@@ApeSapiens dawg... both generations are modern music lmao the difference is gen Z has literally JUST started dropping music consistently, millennials have been at it for two whole decades
@bing6010
@bing6010 16 күн бұрын
I agree.
@felipecagorago
@felipecagorago 16 күн бұрын
like they comparing 40 year old stablished artists to 20 year old rent is due type of artists
@AdoreHorror
@AdoreHorror 12 күн бұрын
The older gen has a huge advantage because of hindsight - you already know the influence and know how their career is going/went
@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime
@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime 16 күн бұрын
BRO are we arguing popularity and impact or HOW GOOD IT IS. That’s different things. Nicki Minaj doesn’t hold a CANDLE to Doechii lyrically or musically in anyway. Idc how popular monster was.
@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime
@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime 16 күн бұрын
I respect your opinion though
@D2BII
@D2BII 16 күн бұрын
I think for these arguments, they take it all into account. As an overall artist, I think that Doechii probably clears a lot of people just because she's a cheat code of a performer (great singing voice, great rapping skill, excellent use of vocal dynamics, can dance, is crazy versatile, and is extremely creative).
@understanding77
@understanding77 15 күн бұрын
Your argument is wrong but I respect your opinion. You’re probably young so you don’t understand how impactful 2008-2009 nicki was
@ariedmck
@ariedmck 16 күн бұрын
Touré, please let them cook. You bulldozed Green in the Gen X vs. Millennials episode. lol
@LoveSonayon
@LoveSonayon 15 күн бұрын
this was a very entertaining face off!
@ericgarner6001
@ericgarner6001 15 күн бұрын
I’m confused, aren’t play boi carti (1995) and Little Simz (1994) millennials too?
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 14 күн бұрын
Yes, and Doja Cat (1995).
@beatrixxkiddo3572
@beatrixxkiddo3572 10 күн бұрын
Not Green trying to get his get back by way of a Gen Z line-up, this isn’t fair at all 🤣
@jcmurie
@jcmurie 16 күн бұрын
The problem with Gen X v Millenials is that so many of the Gen X rappers have had time to become legends as opposed to Millenials, and the problem with Millenials v Gen Z is that so many of the Gen Z rappers aren't old enough to reach their potential yet
@iareMos3s
@iareMos3s 16 күн бұрын
I'd also say that alot if the Tallent died unfortunately pop smoke, juicewrld, X 😢
@seanyoung9014
@seanyoung9014 16 күн бұрын
​@@iareMos3sIf three people is "a lot" of the talent, yall got problems.
@greaterthanharrowk1679
@greaterthanharrowk1679 16 күн бұрын
This is great. Don't often hear about the uk's perspectives on rap.
@tmsmith30
@tmsmith30 16 күн бұрын
This was so much fun!
@KingxGreen
@KingxGreen 16 күн бұрын
Hope yall see … I gave James a chance …
@b2e297
@b2e297 16 күн бұрын
I think in the first handful of rounds you gave him a shot for sure but Wayne->Cole->Travis Scott is diabolical
@LedbyMotivation-dv9ge
@LedbyMotivation-dv9ge 15 күн бұрын
No you didn’t! K. Dot, J. Cole, Little Wayne…you slaughtered him…with cockiness! 😂😂😂. I do agree with Doechii over Nicki though☺️
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 13 күн бұрын
@@KingxGreen To be fair, this is the equivalent of running this in like 2008 for the millennial. At least half our list wouldn't be active yet. Even with yall giving him 94-96 he didn't have much to work with. Gen Z needs time to develop their people.
@patrickvarine8476
@patrickvarine8476 16 күн бұрын
16:55 I'm with Green, this ref is egregious hahahahahaha
@enderprefect342
@enderprefect342 16 күн бұрын
record labels ain't out here looking for talent like they used to! Kendrick said the key to success is who's around you so while y'all had the oportunities to discover techniques and be signed onto labels as the first rappers, millenials caught skepticism & side eye walking into a house that knew the tricks! YOD or DOOM had an outro sample talking about how young CEOs (and artists) are dangerous to the art form because they're more by the books than the old guys ever were! Old heads: "Who knows what this is? Stick it out there and if it sells, it sells. If not, who cares?"
@kyleandrewhopper
@kyleandrewhopper 15 күн бұрын
all of the rock musicians put on an American accent to sing - I'm sure that's part of it
@DAV3NY
@DAV3NY 16 күн бұрын
I love this game. It is so much fun to listen to lol
@braydenthomas35
@braydenthomas35 16 күн бұрын
There’s many Gen Z rappers that’s buzzing rn I think yall should listen to. MIKE, Navy Blue, Mavi, Maxo (i think he’s born in 95) Paris, Texas, Kenny Mason (born in 94)?
@KwabenaDonkor-r9p
@KwabenaDonkor-r9p 16 күн бұрын
I knew it was over once homie said Central C 😂
@sundaespecial59
@sundaespecial59 15 күн бұрын
There goes Gen X giving out participation trophies nobody asked for lmao
@iamdcarrington
@iamdcarrington 15 күн бұрын
I think this might’ve been more interesting if we grouped the rappers by generation in terms of years present. What I mean by that is Gen Z rapper could be rappers active during the defining years of Gen Zs. This also leaves room for us to compare Millennial Eminem to Gen Z Eminem (for example). Y’all see the vision?
@AARON-gt4qe
@AARON-gt4qe 16 күн бұрын
454, Cash Cobain, Navy Blue, MIKE, Mavi, Redveil, Len, Flo Milli, Samara Cyn, Anycia, Bktherula, Doechii, Molly Santana, Lil Tecca, sahbabii, Ravyn Lanae, Liv.e, Steve Lacy all great gen z artists on the come up
@santiagobracho5964
@santiagobracho5964 16 күн бұрын
I was yelling at my phone for James Francis to add Mavi and MIKE. They are the only rappers under 30 that can compete. Maybe add Pop Smoke and Juice Wrld. Kevin Abstract and Denzel Curry are born in 95 which was hair-pullingly annoying hahahah
@jamesfrancisx
@jamesfrancisx 16 күн бұрын
@@santiagobracho5964 I should’ve I forgot 😭 but yeah this 1997 cut off is what made this impossible 😂
@santiagobracho5964
@santiagobracho5964 16 күн бұрын
@jamesfrancisx rematch in 10 years 💪
@amanarya7206
@amanarya7206 16 күн бұрын
Simz washes gambino on album quality
@MCtok11
@MCtok11 16 күн бұрын
False.
@amanarya7206
@amanarya7206 16 күн бұрын
@MCtok11 because the internet is gambinos only quality rap album. Simz is on a run of grey area, SIMBI and no thank you. All critically acclaimed hip hop albums. Gambinos rap credibility cannot measure up.
@seanyoung9014
@seanyoung9014 16 күн бұрын
​@@MCtok11Easily true.
@MCtok11
@MCtok11 16 күн бұрын
@ no album better than awaken and because the internet. No hits, no culturally relevant tracks anyone knows. She’s a great odd niche artist like a Tiara Whack or Rhapsody
@amanarya7206
@amanarya7206 16 күн бұрын
@@MCtok11 I don't think you're replying to my points. The convo is best rapper. I wasn't talking about hits. I said simz has the better rap albums (awaken my love isn't). I also don't think because the internet is better than SIMBI (it's more personal and she has way more flows). I think the bigger issue here is your notion of cultural relevance, and who is a weird odd niche whatever. The conversations we have now help determine (in a small way) how artists are regarded in the future. If enough people agree with me that Simz has had the best album run of any female MC ever and deserves more relevance than Gambino, then she might find more cultural relevance than Gambino. Instead you've put 3 conscious female emcees in the quality niche box. Wouldn't it be cool if conscious female emcees weren't niche. Maybe when we do rap criticism it's valuable to talk about how great they can be, and take seriously the idea someone like Simz is better than someone like Gambino. What do you mean by a "culturally relevent track anyone knows"? People like her songs. People know them.
@jalendiamond421
@jalendiamond421 15 күн бұрын
doechii clears nicki minaj in every category outside of tenure & Catalogue. She’s a better writer, performer, singer ect. If we discovered them both today off of their last songs dropped, it would be a no brainer who is displaying more talent. Let’s stop the impact talk when judging talent please y’all 😂
@Jinz3
@Jinz3 7 күн бұрын
Please let Doechii build her career
@diddlysquat9974
@diddlysquat9974 16 күн бұрын
😂😂😂i love this lmao
@darren223
@darren223 16 күн бұрын
I think you coule argue for Dave being a better storyteller than Drake.
@DxGamer6767
@DxGamer6767 15 күн бұрын
Thinking about it, doesnt the older generation always win just because the more time you spend on earth the more of a chance you get to improve your craft?
@funkyfreshkid08
@funkyfreshkid08 14 күн бұрын
Doechii is leagues above nicki as a singer. Like not close.
@dysonspheretxi
@dysonspheretxi 16 күн бұрын
Simz >>> Gambino
@EdsonJeremias
@EdsonJeremias 16 күн бұрын
All day!!!
@ldn_vin
@ldn_vin 16 күн бұрын
Absurd take.
@itsonlyMash
@itsonlyMash 16 күн бұрын
Ayo! Green getting robbed again! I love Doechi but it’s too early to call her greater than Nicki lol
@rubenlopezdavila4341
@rubenlopezdavila4341 10 күн бұрын
My board as a Millennial here: 1. Doechii 1-0 2. ASAP Rocky 1-1 3. Dave 2-1 4. Tyler the Creator 2-2 5. Little Simz 3-2 6. Lil Wayne 3-3 7. J Cole 3-4 8. Travis Scott 3-5 9. Kendrick Lamar 3-6 10. Cordae 4-6 This was fuuun!!!
@Spring399
@Spring399 15 күн бұрын
Uk rap is basically responsible for all of UK drill beats. The stars themselves haven’t broken through but the sounds have definitely made their way into our music, that dubby wobbly bass is straight from the ends😂!
@Blebona
@Blebona 16 күн бұрын
... Aaaaaand I've found my pod
@charliedalencour5141
@charliedalencour5141 16 күн бұрын
7:21 that’s wiiiild aint no way
@CarterKeither
@CarterKeither 16 күн бұрын
Yea AWGE alone is more influential than Central Cee
@ess-pee-arr
@ess-pee-arr 15 күн бұрын
Dang shots from fired from Touré out the gate with the participation trophy comments, but helping out Gen Z during the first round by giving Doechii a win was nice. Also I think Little Simz should have won against Gambino because she is more rap focused where Gambino is all over the place musically. That being said I got Kendrick #2 and Jay-Z at #6. 🤷🏽‍♂
@understevecover4412
@understevecover4412 16 күн бұрын
Kenny mason or Denzel curry gen z?
@TheArchevil
@TheArchevil 16 күн бұрын
11:00 I disagree, because it always felt to me like drill music came from/was inspired by UK grime. The flow in drill is unlike anything native to the USA, but it does resemble the flow and aggressiveness of early 2000's UK Grime rappers like JME, Tinie Tempah and Wiley. Grime wasn't a mainstream hit in the USA (like the vast majority of rap subgenres), but people were still messing with it. Especially thanks to KZbin. Meanwhile the drill beats seem to be native to the USA, because they have always reminded me of 2Pac's 'No more pain' but in reverse.
@DoflamingoSnailPhone
@DoflamingoSnailPhone 16 күн бұрын
People really don't realize how impactful and influential album's like Boy in da Corner by Dizzee Rascal and Treddin' on Thin Ice by Wiley were in the early 2000's.
@t4squared
@t4squared 16 күн бұрын
Drill came from Chicago and made its way to the UK. Then the UK put its own spin on it. There is still Chicago drill, but I admit that UK drill has its own unique sound. Then NYC took influence from UK drill and made its own scene, which ended up intermingling with Jersey club at some point. And even now UK drill just isn’t as relevant in the US as its fans might want it to be
@TheArchevil
@TheArchevil 16 күн бұрын
​@@t4squared True, and grime is over a decade older than drill.
@TheArchevil
@TheArchevil 16 күн бұрын
@@DoflamingoSnailPhone True, not a lot of grime rappers broke through overseas but those that did definitely left their mark.
@felipecagorago
@felipecagorago 16 күн бұрын
Omg Green is BALD?
@KingxGreen
@KingxGreen 16 күн бұрын
Like a 90s sex symbol 😂..I been bald a nigga
@jason4482
@jason4482 16 күн бұрын
BALD!
@felipecagorago
@felipecagorago 15 күн бұрын
@@jason4482 f
@BornGiftedMusicGroup
@BornGiftedMusicGroup 15 күн бұрын
why was it hard to agree doechiisings better than Nicky ... wtf are ya'll serious lol ya'll must not know doechii literally sings not just holds a note
@D2BII
@D2BII 16 күн бұрын
25:00 ooooh nooooo. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@AdoreHorror
@AdoreHorror 12 күн бұрын
Gambino jacked "this is america" from jase harley's "american pharaoh" He lost a lot of respect from me with that move, no credit given to the underground guy
@nicholasb.2293
@nicholasb.2293 16 күн бұрын
after OG Chicago drill music, I think UK Drill is the most believable
@tymeburglar86
@tymeburglar86 6 күн бұрын
Playboi carti and Doja Cat are millennials, but some popular gen z rappers were overlooked like Juice wrld, Polo G, Jack Harlow, Roddy Rich, Pop smoke, XXXtentacion. I'm not saying I necessarily think they're the best but I hear about them a lot. Unfortunately a lot of the top gen z rappers have passed or just don't have longevity beyond 1-2 albums. Some other notable millennials rappers: Future, Big Sean, Nipsey Hussle.
@lochiewhitaker5843
@lochiewhitaker5843 12 сағат бұрын
Doechii does clear Nikki . And the Lauren Hill tie with Nikki was charity
@eyeballchambaz667
@eyeballchambaz667 16 күн бұрын
Denzel Curry, Uzi, Ski Mask, JID, Maxo, Navy Blue, IDK,
@jamesfrancisx
@jamesfrancisx 16 күн бұрын
The cut off is 1997 - I couldn’t use any of them
@eyeballchambaz667
@eyeballchambaz667 16 күн бұрын
damn Maxo is 34!? im so wrong.
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 14 күн бұрын
@@jamesfrancisx JID is also 34. Denzel (95)and Uzi (95) are technically millennials but they let James have Lil Simz(94), Playboy Carti(95) and Doja Cat(95), so he could have argued it.
@ldn_vin
@ldn_vin 16 күн бұрын
Finally some love for Gambino and Chance. Should've given Uzi for Travis but that's right on the cutoff too. SHEESH. The influence argument makes no sense to add into this btw. That's not how time works.
@alive2583
@alive2583 15 күн бұрын
Notice there’s not much 90-96 talent. I was born in 91. Millennials of the 90s were gatekept so this conversation is biased
@magnusbooth4719
@magnusbooth4719 16 күн бұрын
I would say Tyler is the Max Ernst
@santiagobracho5964
@santiagobracho5964 16 күн бұрын
It's also quite unfair cus 2020s breakout rappers are Jpeg, Griselda and Mach are in their late 30s but only got big during this time. James should have been allowed a mulligan to at least use of them ahha
@verbage432
@verbage432 16 күн бұрын
Every Gen Z rapper is a Carti child, Chief Keef child or Earl Sweatshirt child
@charliedalencour5141
@charliedalencour5141 16 күн бұрын
gambino shoulda lost to simz 😗 also no Zell is craaaazy
@Quandryification
@Quandryification 16 күн бұрын
Toure's goals for 2025...get on Drake's op list 😂😂😂
@brigida2350
@brigida2350 11 күн бұрын
This poor kid 😭
@farmergorman1
@farmergorman1 16 күн бұрын
Round 6 james should have picked JID
@ldn_vin
@ldn_vin 16 күн бұрын
Good pick but he's a millennial too
@farmergorman1
@farmergorman1 16 күн бұрын
@@ldn_vin 😱no, you're joking!!!! How can it be
@seanyoung9014
@seanyoung9014 16 күн бұрын
​@@farmergorman1lol JID late 30s.
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 14 күн бұрын
JID was born in 1990, he is 34.
@joeyschmitt2410
@joeyschmitt2410 15 күн бұрын
I'm wondering if there was some kinda rule against dead artists cause Im very surprised that X, JuiceWRLD and maybe even lil peep did not come up. Those 3 feel like gen z artists that have already had a massive cultural impact and brought something new to the table artistry wise. With X id understand hesitation cause of the awful things he'd done but frankly if that was disqualifying I can think of a few names mentioned in this and the last video that would also come under scrutiny, and frankly, however troubling this is to me because of his actions, I think X is kinda the gen z Kurt Cobain in terms of busting the doors down of the mainstream with such visceral music that connected with the youth in such a big way by combining raw aggression, extremely catchy hooks, and a surprising level of depth
@mik-d5e
@mik-d5e 16 күн бұрын
Lets see gen alpha next Nettspend will be able to represent
@LouisMuspratt-Tucker
@LouisMuspratt-Tucker 16 күн бұрын
Urmmm British MCs to make an influence include MF Doom and Slick Rick 😂
@KTJ_1
@KTJ_1 16 күн бұрын
Dave wins hands down. He is the definition of an artist who creates impactful music with meaning. Psychodrama and We're All Alone In This Together are classic albums. He's made music that will still be great in 50 years. How do you listen to Heart Attack, Black, or Survivors Guilt and go Drake? That take seems to go against the essence of this pod. Oh, and he's got bars.
@understanding77
@understanding77 15 күн бұрын
Get this James dude outta here😂 saying doechii is better than nicki, talk about recency bias… Her singing being better is such a bad argument for why she is better, we are talking about rapping, HIP HOP. Nicki would absolutely destroy doechii. I’m sick of all this glazing of her when she clearly is just an OKAY rapper. She’s doing the stuff that Tyler did back in 2011 but as a woman. I don’t wanna here that “tiktok rapper” line bs
@taylorslade961
@taylorslade961 16 күн бұрын
Unpopular Opinion: Nicki Minaj is not a good rapper. I am consistently unimpressed by her.
@DoflamingoSnailPhone
@DoflamingoSnailPhone 16 күн бұрын
She's weak af outside of a few good features/songs. The Monster verse, her singing ability and large fanbase doesn't change the fact that her bodies of work are mid. She doesn't have anything close to the quality of Alligator Bites Never Heal or even some of Doechii's EP's.
@seanyoung9014
@seanyoung9014 16 күн бұрын
​@@DoflamingoSnailPhoneHow are her and Doechii even in the same lane to be compared?
@joshualouk4128
@joshualouk4128 12 күн бұрын
Really like greens takes but he played the gen x round terrible
@DMD-n9s
@DMD-n9s 15 күн бұрын
Is Green mad. Simz trumps everyone but Kendrick arguably
@jm6406
@jm6406 16 күн бұрын
carti is a millennial just a bit younger
@brycep49
@brycep49 16 күн бұрын
Technically yeah, it's just that if Gen-Z is 1997-2012, it's probably a complete wash imo. NBA Youngboy, Doechii, XXXTentacion, and Juice Wrld are great artists. However if 1995 is counted as gen-z that includes Carti, Uzi, Chief Keef, and Denzel Curry which gives them a bit more of a fighting chance to win some rounds.
@jm6406
@jm6406 16 күн бұрын
@@brycep49 fair enough, I was just commenting on the thumbnail before the video went live
@Mrhot788
@Mrhot788 16 күн бұрын
Maybe a controversial take but i mightve thrown yung lean into the mix, dude pioneered a whole subgenera
@DoflamingoSnailPhone
@DoflamingoSnailPhone 16 күн бұрын
Clams Casino, A$AP Rocky and Lil B were doing Cloud Rap before Lean. They were the ones that really made the genre pop off with songs like I'm God by Lil B and tons of songs off of Rocky's first mixtape. Even early JPEGMafia when he was still going under DeVon Hendryx was doing Cloud Rap stuff. Lean and everyone else followed after that. And they weren't even really the first to start it. Viper was doing it way before they were in the mid to late 2000's.
@LedbyMotivation-dv9ge
@LedbyMotivation-dv9ge 15 күн бұрын
I’m generation X…Kendrick is #1 (tied with Nas) in my top 5. One of my kids (gen.Z) has him as #3 in her top 5 and finally, one of my board members (gen Y) has Kendrick as #4 in his top five. We all like Jay, but he’s not in any of our top five.
@alicereynoso
@alicereynoso 16 күн бұрын
Little Simz es mejor MC. Ese argumento en específico no se refutó... !
@silentnavarino
@silentnavarino 16 күн бұрын
This kid is a bit of out of his depth.
@hendrx
@hendrx 8 күн бұрын
18:49 Playboi Carti is a Millenial
@drevandamva
@drevandamva 16 күн бұрын
This kid wasted Doja cat on Wayne. She was a point if played properly. He didn’t mention glo -rilla, pop smoke or xxx. That feels like a mistake. Way too many uk reps lol do this again with someone more prepared
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 14 күн бұрын
If we are playing fair Doja is a millennial, and we also get Playboi, and Lil Simz back. And I think we get Ray Vauhn too.
@emotionhealing6110
@emotionhealing6110 16 күн бұрын
Gen Z has completely changed the rap game with the most balanced and versatile female rappers ever. From their unmatched lyrical skill to their diverse styles, they bring a level of creativity and energy that’s never been seen before. They’ve elevated hip-hop and pushed boundaries in ways no other generation has.
@LoveMera_x
@LoveMera_x 16 күн бұрын
Ehhhhh I think you’re overstating what female rapper and don’t bring up doechii
@emotionhealing6110
@emotionhealing6110 16 күн бұрын
@@LoveMera_x Your comment feels kinda suspicious-not because you disagree, but because it’s dismissive without offering much thought. Saying I’m ‘overstating’ female rappers and then singling out Doechii with ‘don’t bring her up’ feels more like you’re trying to shut down the conversation than actually engage. It’s giving reactionary energy, and I’m not here to go back and forth with that. That said, here’s a list of balanced and versatile Gen Z rappers who’ve completely changed the game: Doja Cat Tierra Whack Megan Thee Stallion Latto Rico Nasty Baby Tate GloRilla TiaCorine Saweetie Doechii, Doechii, Doechii 😝 There’s way more, but I’ll leave you to do the rest of your homework if you care to ✨
@LoveMera_x
@LoveMera_x 16 күн бұрын
@ this list is fine I mean MAINSTREAM and in MAINSTREAM it’s mainly about hits and bangers not pushing your pen apart from doechii
@emotionhealing6110
@emotionhealing6110 16 күн бұрын
@@LoveMera_x It’s clear you’re unwilling to do your homework, and that’s fine. If you wanted underground Gen Z female rappers, you could’ve said so-but you didn’t, and that’s also part of your homework. I gave you accessible artists because I extended grace, not assuming you had depth into hip-hop based on your initial response. Instead of engaging meaningfully, you’ve moved the goalposts and started screaming about ‘MAINSTREAM,’ which only confirms the suspicions I shared earlier. By the way, only about four of the artists I mentioned are strictly mainstream. The rest balance mainstream and niche or lean underground, further proving my point-which is that you’re more focused on dismissing my list than actually engaging with its substance. For the reasons above, I’m not continuing this conversation. I’ve said what I needed to say. I’ll leave you to your own devices, stranger. Consider yourself gagged. ✨
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 14 күн бұрын
@@emotionhealing6110 Meg, Doja Cat, Baby Tate, Saweetie, Tierra Whack, and TiaCorine (Also Lil Simz) are all millennials(1980-1996). They let James use some of the younger millennials, but like half of his list are not gen Z(1997-2012). You get Doechii, Latto, and Rico Nasty. I'll be honest, I've heard the name Rico Nasty, didn't know she was a woman or heard her music, Latto is decent with potential, and Doechii is your gen Z's rising star. So while I agree that women are making great strides in rap, I'm not giving Gen Z a lot of credit yet. I do think Doechii will shift that. However, and I know tone doesn't convey in writing so I'm being genuine, I would love if you have a more underground list of younger women with strong writing because a lot of what I'm seeing is more mainstream pop rap, and I'd like a better list.
@alicereynoso
@alicereynoso 16 күн бұрын
El chamako tiene razón con lo del acento.
@DMD-n9s
@DMD-n9s 15 күн бұрын
Wait central Cee more than asap rocky . Ok this is purely an age thing. ASAP smashes CC and I’m British but old. He’s ok I guess but of all the British artists
@dantelway9819
@dantelway9819 14 күн бұрын
firstly lemme subscribe coz i seem to have found my people lol firstly little simz is not gen z , i think this was creeping into a uk vs usa thing but thats cool too lol little simz is 1000 percent a better mc than childish gambino , she one of few rappers who has 3 verses solo in a song staying on topic etc nah respect her craft
@freddie5ive
@freddie5ive 15 күн бұрын
toure thinks british rap had no effect on american rap, even though the literal birthplace of hiphop apes uk drill
@EarthEagleGT
@EarthEagleGT 16 күн бұрын
Yall need a better person to represent GenZ lmaooo also Ray Vaughn is like 32 years old so he’d be a millennial
@EarthEagleGT
@EarthEagleGT 16 күн бұрын
He should’ve said doja cat for Travis Scott and could’ve brought up lyrics and records
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 14 күн бұрын
@@EarthEagleGT Doja is older than Ray Vaughn.
@EarthEagleGT
@EarthEagleGT 14 күн бұрын
@@AShiftingofFate Doja is only 29 lol
@AShiftingofFate
@AShiftingofFate 14 күн бұрын
@@EarthEagleGT Per google Ray vauhn was born in 96, Doja in 95.
@MCtok11
@MCtok11 16 күн бұрын
This was the red wedding, Gen Z cooked.
@Brickbrickbrickinthewall
@Brickbrickbrickinthewall 14 күн бұрын
I don’t even like this guys accent and he ain’t even rapping lol
@drewd6426
@drewd6426 16 күн бұрын
Respectfully, Touré - Nicki over Doechii is easy work. volume of work, numbers, cultural impact. She does pop star numbers with drake and travis.
@LoveMera_x
@LoveMera_x 16 күн бұрын
I don’t think tourè likes her as a person so it influences his opinion
@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime
@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime 16 күн бұрын
Also, the british accent is why we don’t mess with british rappers. It just sounds so GOOFY. No offense it just does😂
@ArmLegLegArmHead47
@ArmLegLegArmHead47 7 күн бұрын
How? American Exceptionalism is peak brain rot.
@tokilladaemon
@tokilladaemon 16 күн бұрын
Millenials have kendrick and tyler, end of conversation
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