Confronting A Radical Climate Activist Protest

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[@GEN]

Get 20% off DeleteMe US consumer plans when you go to joindeleteme.com/GEN or use promo code GEN at checkout. DeleteMe international Plans: international.joindeleteme.com Thank you for watching! What are your thoughts on this topic of climate activism? Let's start a thread

[@elmerkarlsson5005]

Just stop oil are based I'd join them if i lived in the UK

[@taroubb1940]

Just like you mentioned, if one is serious about a problem, make oneself the problem solver. If one is just trying to bully others to solve the problem, that someone is a terrorist. ;p

[@RoofusRoof19]

@@elmerkarlsson5005 bait used to be so believable

[@Dashometry1774]

@@RoofusRoof19it isn’t bait. The methods they use are actually good. They make sure the paintings they “vandalize” are protected by bulletproof glass, laminated in the frame, etc.. And another note, them chaining themselves to the ground represents how much we rely on the earth and need it to survive. And the big oil companies are taking that away. Obviously the only solution is to get rid of oil. Obviously a simple minded buffoon like you wouldn’t know this. So tell me, did their methods not get you thinking more of climate change? No! Why? Because it is effective.

[@sababaratashvili8629]

Are they getting paid a lot? I wonder how many do it just for money...

[@Nolord_]

Calm down guys, NPCs aren't programmed to answer ALL of the questions...

[@der-Dritte]

Us devs don't have time. So we use chat gpt -1 for their answers. And it has his limits

[@JAy-dx1xb]

Tbh they had a point on protecting the painting over the one planet in ur solar systems we can live on alot of people live there life not caring about what happens to the earth because they won't live to see its end but your kids will my kids will and not ur literally kids but ur kids kids and there kids will get to see the sun explode

[@GrinnReaperZ]

@@JAy-dx1xb And just WHAT are we going to do about THE SUN EXPLODING???!?!? What does earth's ecology have ANYTHING to do with THE SUN?!?!!??!!? 93 million lightyears away....

[@omega5973]

funny they got the new Palestine DLC

[@der-Dritte]

@JAy-dx1xb did you had a stroke writing this

[@Carlos-cm3ul]

Replace oil with the power of friendship, duh

[@cleandarrel1400]

We just need everyone to watch One Piece and world peace will begin

[@brendantjeerdsma492]

This person needs to be president of the world!

[@Carlos-cm3ul]

@@cleandarrel1400 [LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]

[@hankanatorpoo8777]

lol

[@AnyMemeyouWantt]

​@cleandarrel1400 I don't want peace I want problems always

[@okazakikun1]

her saying who care about a painting is how history is lost .

[@SealFPV-xr5bp]

History is lost when countries get flooded.

[@dannywoo3535]

This is why Humanites subjects such as History should be taught more in school

[@rickysandwich]

I think part of the greater message is that this painting won't mean anything when the planet becomes more and more inhospitable.

[@frankcaggiano8282]

​@@rickysandwichand that message is completely (and quite literally) lost in the sauce when you throw soup at the art you're trying to claim to protect. It's also just ignorant. Don't ruin other peoples' time and experiences just because you want to send a message and they're not listening. Regular randoms going to work have nothing to do with climate change. Go protest outside the mines and drill rigs. Oh, wait.... They'd have to have jobs for money, licences, passports, etc..... And they're all just angwy hobos in the first place

[@nokh3382]

⁠@@rickysandwichwell that’s true, I’m this situation I feel like we can have both, people can protest well not destroying our knowledge and defacing priceless artifacts of the past.

[@mstorgaardnielsen]

Walking around protesting about fossil fuels, clothed and fed with products created with the use of precisely fossil fuel. Too bad they’re too clueless to realize.

[@blythe9]

🙌🙌 perfectly said

[@SuperSuperdude88]

100% absolutely!! they are the biggest hypocrites!!!

[@rickysandwich]

What is this argument even about? All you are pointing out is how deeply embedded our society is in the use of fossil fuels. They are everywhere and in everything. Just opting out is not as easy and it focuses again on individual change. FYI: the fossil fuel industry came up with the "Carbon Footprint" concept to put responsibility more on individuals and away from industry.

[@Saberwulfy]

@@rickysandwich If activists can't remove fossil fuels from their own lives, how do they expect the world to do it for them? The least they should develop is a plan, but even that they want others to do for them.

[@DoctorPayne666]

All those people that protested communism, despite the fact that they were clothed and fed by a communist system. It's too bad all those dumb bastards are too clueless to realize what Josef Stalin did for them.

[@tuongpham7609]

These people are just unemployed.

[@jtg753]

Sort of, I'm sure someone with an agenda is sending them money.

[@emsax]

Brother I'm unemployed and I don't do this - they're unemployed without hobbies 😆

[@iamhardwell2844]

they are actually paid to be there LOL

[@Vesuvio222]

I think the word you are looking for is "undeveloped"

[@lvopta]

I promise you're employed, broke, and a waste of space. please, project your life struggles onto people TRYING to make a difference meanwhile you're sitting on your @$$ on youtube. how about YOU get a real job?

[@guskinmaypho174]

"what was the question?" this caught me unprepared... I expected this to be bad but this was waaaay over the line I drew for these terrorists....

[@iopchris1116]

Istg that guy is high

[@nickcunningham6344]

@@iopchris1116 I know he was cause I am right now 😂

[@kasparhauser4472]

🤣🤣🤣

[@abruptend8993]

It's like they have this protocol drilled into their head with how he responded. But then again he is zooted out of his mind so he went to default settings.

[@Naanaa-dn6st]

Sammmme 😂

[@zacharyhardin426]

Maybe it’s just me, but it seems like even the activists don’t fully understand what they’re protesting or why.

[@cuve_ae]

It’s just the flavor of the month. I’ve got a neighbor that flys whatever flag is popular at the time. BLM, Ukraine, Palestine, LGBQT+, & now Biden Harris ‘24. Lawns unkept & full of random trash, loud arguments that spill into the street followed by police, non permitted “housing” structures in the back yard, & from the come & go traffic some sort of business I’m sure. Very unfortunate as the late father kept the home in order but passed during C19. When the yard work gets done they have their elderly mother pushing the mower. Oh also they have like 10-15 grown loose dogs with a short gate that’s often left open.

[@dracocaelestis6370]

they never do. they just choose a cause to channel their anger but don’t know anything about it beneath the surface. not surprising, generations of young people have protested against/for different causes but social media has amplified and worsened how it’s done so now most of them do it because it’s popular in their age group but don’t care to learn more about it.

[@OffDaLip]

If they understood the situation, they wouldn’t be protesting. They are deluded

[@TheSaintBigFoot]

Same with Palestine and pride protests

[@Quazi-moto]

@@TheSaintBigFoot Gays fer Palestine! Criminals fer capital punishment! Chickens fer KFC! Cobras for Mongoose rights! Grandparents fer unreachable, prison-bound children! It all makes the same level of sense.

[@yaadiereviews5881]

Second hand embarrassment for these representatives 😂😂😂😂 how are you gonna support a cause but don’t know what that cause is about ?😂

[@lao-ce8982]

But they all wear plastic clothes fly by plane and have the iPhone pro max in their hand, like wtf?

[@dirtyguat333]

the iphone part kills me lol

[@travisb7797]

Been reading the comments and somehow there is a whole team of them justifying all of that bs. So weird how brainwashed and narcissistic people can be. "One person cannot stop oil" and the thousands of them around the world are still using all the products they want others to quit using because "it's too hard". Bunch of clowns

[@dildohorn2282]

Yess, but they want YOU to save energy. They dont want that themselves.

[@spoonfulofserotonin5629]

Bro, none of that was in the video (the clothes probably but maybe not), just because they are stupid doesn't mean you have fabricate lies and assumptions to make them look even worse

[@travisb7797]

@@spoonfulofserotonin5629 There was a phone and they all got there somehow right? Did they ride cows that fart too much?

[@ItsWhatever736]

Well. You know. I. Systemic racism and stuff. We are the people. And as the people. We need to help the people. Especially black people. Because they need oil. Wait I lost track. What are we talking about again?

[@legacymse7095]

That sums up the leftist mindset

[@coldmoonlight6361]

See? You get it 😊

[@supablitz]

😂😂😂😂

[@jonathanmichaelsmith9012]

You forgot the word, "like".

[@annakortukov2845]

"because they need oil" 😅😅😅

[@sharkastic2633]

Another score for real journalism.

[@bigc9142]

His standpoint is very biased. And the guy in Glasses seems schizophrenic

[@potatoespoo]

@@bigc9142 he clearly interviewed people who looked out of place and not exactly as smart, and when they repeatedly said that they weren’t the people to answer the questions, he still asked them even more and did weird editing to make them look stupid. Appealing to one perspective is not “real journalism” or “the middle-ground” it’s just biased!

[@GEN]

@@bigc9142just to make it clear - I literally stated that I am biased in this topic in that I think climate activism has the most opposite effect of getting people to care. When’s the last time you’ve seen a video where the person states their biases but respectfully talks with the side they disagree with?

[@GEN]

@@potatoespooI tried to interview more people, but these are the three that wanted to talk

[@lapislazuli6136]

@@GEN You're doing great GEN, glad to see a video on this topic specificly

[@Desiray77]

If we stop using oil how will gen oil up?

[@zevvaldina8978]

Lmao

[@GEN]

nah you wild af

[@alphaphantom5508]

@@GEN when the vid dropping?

[@AverageGuy2002]

Nah with this comment again😂

[@Over9000DragonFire]

Do it for the bois ​@@GEN

[@LazarusSpeaks]

Vertical just in it for the white women lmaooo

[@cory8080]

😂😂😂

[@perfectcloseouts]

🤣

[@squ34ky]

He's soooo transparent!

[@goncalosilva1390]

It's natural that they don't know what they are talking about. If they did, they wouldn't act this way.

[@Amogumogu]

Exactly. MAGA voters don't know or care one bit about Trump's ACTUAL policies to help poor people or limit immigration. All they want is to hear the firey comebacks on twitter.

[@busboy3232]

Watch her body language as she talks. Shes not confident on the topic or any of the questions asked and shes leading this circus?

[@myat30]

I agreed with you. But I just wanna say...she's freaking HOT lol

[@joelhungerford8388]

Yeh but she is good looking hence why she has so many "male" followers

[@nicktubara]

What her @ tho, she fine af.

[@fn3516]

I actually think it just shows that she's level-headed and self-aware, and not spouting nonsense without knowing the facts, but she was still able to provide specific examples of the issues they're protesting against. One of the worst things in modern political discourse is people confidently spouting nonsense despite actually being completely ignorant of the facts of the situation, and she didn't fall into that trap, which is admirable, in fact. You probably went into this video already having made up your mind and are just trying to find any possible reason to discount what she's saying.

[@nicktubara]

@@joelhungerford8388 what's her @

[@Ennn117]

I know they want a healthier planet, we all do. But it’s a more complex issue. Why don’t they help make it possible to have more people get more renewable energy? Instead of crying in front of cars about oil..

[@diefluchendehexe5775]

Making them waste even more oil as they watch these bafoons cry!

[@aslancallenreese7016]

Their hearts are in the right place and the foundation of what they’re saying is correct but it’s obvious that they don’t actually know all that much about the natural world at large since their talking points have nothing to do with what they’re protesting for other than fossil fuels and man made climate change, everything else is irrelevant to the problem. The key issue is that humanity is the only species on this planet that has grown entirely estranged from the rest of the natural world. In doing so we are sowing the seeds of our own extinction while taking down the rest of the diverse ecosystems that make up this planet as well with our destructive behaviour and over self importance that we’ve neglected anything that isn’t human and we even neglect our fellow humans. So yes, humanity needs a wake up call but what they’re doing isn’t at ALL productive..

[@dildohorn2282]

Just too many people on the planet. 🤷‍♂️

[@Patson20]

Most people don't realized the only reason we have 8 billion people today is because of chemical refining. Without nitrate fertilizer we couldn't grow crops as large. Without chemical pesticide and herbicide we couldn't grow crops regularly and would have constant famines. Without diesel to power the farm machinery we couldn't grow it at the scale we need.

[@jamiedorsey4167]

Its like I always say, "If you want something done right, complain about it until someone does it for you."

[@mairzydoats]

Their brains are already fried but after you asked those simple questions, their brain disintegrated into ashes. What goofs!!

[@nebulous962]

if you want people to do something you gotta make people associate that thing with positive feelings. what these people do does the opposite.

[@GEN]

True

[@benchno5366]

people are missing the main point: find a solution. make a solution. outreach, research, support organizations that truly make a net positive difference. if theres a mass group of disorganized people chanting over something they have no clue about, there is no resolution. have a centralized focal point and main goal as a group, then youll actually get something done.

[@rickysandwich]

We also need to remember that there are many climate groups that are doing policy work, that are getting results, but those don't work well with sensationalized media. I'd love for Gen to talk with leaders from the Sunrise Movement or others that are more on the policy side.

[@southerncyan4098]

@@rickysandwich Good idea, that seems really interesting. There is a distinct lack of "reasonable" conversation from leaders in the climate space to the media that can make meaningful difference. It would be great if Gen could investigate!

[@glytchd]

Ah so you finally realize the big picture. Intentional disorganized radicalism so ppl FEEL like they're doing something but are actually eating time and destroying their own culture while they vote for oppressive laws that make the environment worse

[@thankgodchiagozie2578]

They can't even argue for what they're protesting for. That's crazy.

[@RipperDio]

Defacing Stonehedge is just disgusting. It's all a bunch of one-upmanship and virtue signaling. Throw them in jail.

[@ThomasWard-fx3fe]

It amuses me that the people not protesting are more articulate and understand climate change way better than the protestors.

[@spoonfulofserotonin5629]

The guy was more articulate, but he wasn't any smarter. Though, he had opinions at least.

[@tomasmazeris8914]

I think that he didn’t make any more sense than the protesters at all he could just actually express his beliefs and his logic. But I don’t see how us not using oil will make it so that we go back to using whale oil or how we will cut down more trees.

[@mistahchilton89]

...the guy who believes in communist electricity mines??

[@VertexCarver]

@@spoonfulofserotonin5629 Not that I'd be able to convince you of anything but being somewhat well read & articulate, I'd categorize as quite a bit "smarter". It takes a special type of fundamentalist to ignore everything except "the cause". Climate change just happens to attract some of these people because scientology or some other cult didn't find them first.

[@leonardcostanza8063]

@@tomasmazeris8914 because how do you replace oil 😂

[@christijanrobert1627]

The green-shirted guy was fairly based. His input balanced the inane or typical 'we're here for' jargon.

[@davidjones8043]

He wasn't one of them lol

[@MrIMCP]

I can't stand these people even more now.......

[@nathanbeer3338]

"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person". -- Bill Murray

[@aktopicz]

I don't understand how oil paintings or paintings in general relate to oil and gas...

[@ElinWinblad]

Yea the paints are made want oils like lind seed or walnut oil

[@petergriffinson1907]

They figure oil painting has oil so oil = bad. They are simpletons.

[@dildohorn2282]

😁

[@gnarwhal7562]

They have nothing to do with climate change. They essentially just vandalize them because it's an effective, controversial way to get peoples attention. But you don't win people over by wrecking a centuries old painting, you just piss them off that you destroyed a priceless artifact

[@MrMrdave1966]

Lmao. Look at all that polyester blend clothing. They got a lot of learning to do

[@veronique9972]

Or cotton. Or tencel/lyocell. If you didn't ask, just don't spew hate😒

[@Mr15moss]

Gen trying his best to not be biased is really funny but also props to him. I couldnt keep calm. 😂😂

[@jaredpoon5869]

Even when I disagree with him, I love his relatively unbiased approach. But here, he couldn’t even hide the fact that he thought the protests were dumb.

[@hdgdaf4653]

@@jaredpoon5869 in his defense the protesters that agreed to speak with him were, potentially not dumb but, at minimum pretty ignorant.

[@byronmorley2907]

The irony of the guy answering questions with a plastic water bottle in his hand and plastic pen in his hat

[@ValiantGoat]

The only person that knew what was going on was the random guy. lol 🤣

[@Batzarn82]

These activists have not critically thought about anything.

[@DannyByWest]

What I think is that many from our generation lacks a sense of purpose, and activism is what many people fill that particular hole with. Sadly not always as informed as they should be.

[@rustedknight]

Instead of destroying art and stopping traffic they should 1)Make alternative paint products that are safe for the environment and none damaging to the environment to produce and use 2) learn how to make alternatives to fossil fuel that are again none damaging to the environment Advocate and promote these things

[@AsAfterlife]

What pisses me off the most is that they went after Stonehenge, they seriously need to be fined for that. Also, it is a bit too late to turn back from oil at this point, it is so far intertwined into our society and economy that it would cause more harm than good at this point

[@CorruptedSol]

i don't know why but the Stonehenge one pissed me off the most. It is insane and shows these protestors rather watch the world burn than respect anything that currently exists.

[@LoveToSpootch]

"it is a bit too late to turn back from oil at this point" Maybe turn 100% away, but the main issue in terms of fossil fuel=baaad, is that most countries are afraid of nuclear power plants.

[@Darkra98]

I wish you talked to the people actually working on changing the world, instead of only a brief mention at the end. So many topics have rational people in the middle working the best they can do forward humanity. Oceangate is one of my favorite projects that I've actively donated to. Thousands of scientists actively work and beg for funding to find new ways to clean up our land and oceans, but seldom get any media attention. Of the larger projects, the great green wall in the shara, drone reforestation, and ocean de-acidification projects come to mind, but they almost never get any attention despite have far larger impacts than anything the activists have done for climate change. To me, the people here were pretty clueless. The protestors are talking about fossil fuels, but forget that electrification is actively occurring with a large push. Also, the primary importance of fossil fuels is not energy directly, but logistics (tankers/ships), synthetics (plastics), and fertilizers. Instead of vandalizing cultural and historical artifacts, why not have a push for nuclear energy projects and better transit systems within cities? The other side felt just as clueless, probably doesn't believe in climate change, and only parrots right wing talking points.

[@GEN]

great points - we can always make a follow-up video

[@scottishblacklab]

you nearly had me but removed your mask with your final stupid parroting far right pish

[@joaquinmason3280]

MORE OF THIS PLS!!! I would really love to see gen give attention to people who actually are trying to make a difference instead of people just wanting to do it without having a clue or real interest.

[@charm359]

hell yeah brothers im happy there is reasonable people even if they diasgree on things and not just angry morons

[@Andre_Blais]

Yeah but the problem is those people are in the minority (I love what OceanGate is doing by the way). The vast majority are just "activists" whose actions are nothing more than performative virtue signalling. The only real consequence they have on society is vandalism, social instability and social media clout. It's 100% worth it for guys/channels/outlets like GEN to push back on their hubris and expose it for what it is: performative nonsense that has zero rationale or intellectual foundation whatsoever.

[@SuperSuperdude88]

this is the most BASIC MARKETING 101- you need to GET PEOPLE ON YOUR SIDE!! not piss them off and make them hate you and spite you

[@dera_ng]

Does anyone else think that there could be an element of dwindling mental health with these "activists"? Mental health research needs more funding and publicity. 💔

[@noahdouglas4850]

Unemployed Behavior

[@lvopta]

aren't you a grown man sitting on youtube?

[@jasonsmith7056]

@@lvoptaand that proved he unemployed?

[@lvopta]

@@jasonsmith7056 "proved" clearly you're unemployed

[@jasonsmith7056]

@@lvopta brain rot has really gotten to you mate…

[@lvopta]

@@jasonsmith7056 right.. total brain rot

[@O_Smii]

What pisses me off is that these people don't even do basic research on the topic. It's easy to say that "We can use sun energy through solar panels - so let's just generate all electricity by them". But they don't even bother to search for information about efficiency of it, about consequences of covering huge areas by solar panels, about the basics of how the energy grid works and what are peaks of generation and consumption. As an engineer, I can tell that complete transfer to green energy is not possible due to mechanics of how the power grid and how generation and consumption of electricity works. In addition, it would need an absurd amount of solar panels due to their relatively small efficiency (solar panels 20%, fossil power plants which also use heat for secondary purposes is up to 90%). On top of that, green energy can be produced effectively only in particular regions and in particular seasons. If we take solar panels - we should consider that it produces light only in a daytime, we should consider angle of solar beams, clouds, winter seasons, dust in the air. It means that actual solar panels efficiency reduced to a few percent. Another aspect - power grid works that way that we need precise amount of generated energy to correspond to the amount of energy that is consumed at exact second - green energy is not suitable for this. Batteries wouldn't cut it because of low capacity, hard maintenance and amount of rare metals needed for them, considering that it's mined mainly by slavery and hard to recycle. And lastly - excessive green energy damages the environment even more badly than fossils as it changes heat circulation, wind forces and river flows. All of these problems applied to each type of green energy generation. All in all, happiness is in balance. When we apply green energy in particular region, where this approach is efficient, in particular scale that is not harmful to environment - it's perfect. At the same time, in modern state of power grid, it needs a support of another types of generation plants to run it properly and so that this system will have a maximum efficiency. I believe and hope that efficiency of green energy and batteries would be enough some day, but it's not the case for today's technologies. On top of that, if green energy is a way to generate energy from "air" that doesn't require any other spendings on fuel and stuff - wouldn't entrepreneurs just use that "free money" opportunity? If it were so easy as it appears - green energy companies would overthrow other companies in a blink of an eye, wouldn't they?)))

[@dez7800]

Sure, solar and wind have intermittency and reliability issues and hydro and geothermal energy require specific terrain, but there is bioenergy that can be used almost anywhere and ocean energy too. Nuclear is also an option in a lot of areas, ones that preferably aren't earthquake/tsunami prone. Yes having a completely 100% green energy mix isn't possible everywhere right now (and possibly still wont be in the future too), but it is in a lot of areas. Power grids need a baseline energy source that is reliable (24/7) and there are a few options for that: hydro, nuclear and geothermal. From that, solar, wind and ocean energy should be added to the mix to provide the energy needed during peek demand (mornings: 6 to 9 a.m. and evenings: 4 to 8 p.m.). Solar energy can be used during those time periods and wind should be used where its the most efficient (geographically). Finally, the most important thing now would be to have coal and oil plants progressively closed in favor of gas where renewables are too expensive to build. Gas has a much higher efficiency and emits less CO2. And in countries that have the funds for it, coal, oil and gas should be replaced with a mix of renewables. Otherwise, hopefully technlogy helps make renewables more efficient. PS: Yes I included nuclear in renewables even though I know it technically isn't but I did because it doesn't emit GHG.

[@ErezElene]

Please define what "bioenergy" means

[@stimmeausdemkissen]

Here in Germany they (Government) invest billions in hydrogen Infrastructure and research for energy production! I'm not an engineer but isn't that stupid because of the small efficiency of hydrogen?

[@DoctorPayne666]

@@ErezElene en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioenergy

[@ErezElene]

@@DoctorPayne666 Bro, you're talking about biofuel? That's literally just mixing corn ethanol with gasoline. It's a huge euphemism because it's still oil. "Bioenery" is literally dependent on fossil fuels The only "green" energy that's actually clean and feasible is nuclear, even better, nuclear waste recycling

[@thangn.8160]

They don't know what they are protesting about.

[@Mr15moss]

Omg I hope they actually give good reason and not just scream about the environment and not let people go to work

[@abetterworld96]

I'm pretty sure they drove there on an internal combustion rig.

[@originalSiiiN]

You Just. Don't. Get It. THERE WON'T BE ANY FUCKING WORK WHEN WE ARE ALL DEAD AND OUR HOME PLANET IS DEAD 🖕🏻🖕🏻

[@jareddiliberto60]

Energy policy should handled by engineers not politicians or political activists.

[@glytchd]

Lol what hairbrush in the 70s with the FOOD PYRAMID. POLITICAL science & state- funded atheism.. They ignored the biologists. This keeps Hadfield. Free trade isn't free

[@richardavery4692]

Engineers will tell you it doesn't work. Without government subsidies, there's no money in alternatives aside from nuclear.

[@NeverLuckyE7]

Really great video. I appreciate your openness with your strong opinion at the beginning and the very professional attitude you maintain while talking with people you disagree with.

[@GEN]

Only way to change how society approaches issues is if we talk to those we disagree with. And if you agree with their points, being open enough to admit when you change your mind

[@bernard33]

When Zombies pretending to be smart by joining a protest for a cause, it’s so hilarious.

[@PaNDaSNiP3R]

I burn plastic on the weekends just to spite these people.

[@the_naP]

This is just like interviewing a Scientologist. It's all attention seeking behavior. If only they had their fathers in their lives...

[@LoveToSpootch]

At least a scientologist have an interesting story about aliens. These people have nothing.

[@olivermigdale1528]

what people fail to understand is countries and people rely on oil if the whole world just stopped buying oil what would happen to places like the middle east and latin america hundreds of thousands of people would lose there jobs homes and lives all transportation would stop aid going to places in need would stop

[@GEN]

Yeah - I think that’s why it’s never as simple as “just stop oil”

[@valclipped1507]

@@GEN While it's definitely true that alot of third world countries rely on oil for both economic growth and general transportation and energy, you still have to look at who consumes the most oil. Per year the top three are USA, (wikipedia lists it as a country) the European Union and China. All of which are by no means third world and have plenty of acess to clean energy such as wind or solar, but in the USA especially there is heavy lobbying from massive oil companies and intense glorification and greenwashing of oil, and while the means are questionable at best which these protesters use you do have to see the intent.

[@DrunkenDove]

@@valclipped1507 No energy is clean energy, there will always a trade off. In the US as of 2023 90% of all solar panels, regardless of the technology used, ended up in land fills including their toxic materials like heavy metals of Lead and Arsenic that leech into the environment. Wind turbine blades are extremely time consuming and expensive to recycle so both the US and UK just toss them in the land fill once they are replaced. Leaded Gasoline would cause heavy metal partials to breathable and stay in the air causing varying degrees of heavy metal poison and effects. Unleaded oil products (Jet fuel, Gas, Diesel, Kerosene, etc) are well known to cause plenty of issues in their own right, but an additional trade off is that there are so many products made using the by product when turning crude oil into these fuels. Ice Chest, Paint Brushes, Tires, Nylon Rope, Fan Belts, Hair Curlers, Glycerin, Synthetic Rubber (Very much needed in this era compared to natural rubber production) just to name a few. This leads into Nuclear Fission, and testing of Fusion. Nuclear fission reactors provide such a large amount of energy compared to the effects and waste products it produces. However that waste does take time and care to resolve where it should be kept until it can finally be moved to a long term holding area where it will take generations to finally become non-radioactive. All in all it really comes down to the trade offs which is why I didn't even mention coal as the energy density vs the pollution cost and it generates power similarly to Nuclear does not make sense. There is no one solution, unless we find a true "miracle" fuel with no hazards or effects, until then doing a diversified source of energy is the only way to decrease all side effects slightly rather than mainly into one or two large side affects. In reality based on political structures around the world not everyone will move over to "cleaner" energy standards. China and many other places still use large amounts of coal to the point that coal mining is ~10-11% of Australia's GDP.

[@zfritz268]

​@GEN fossil fuel is the most flexible, portable energy source we have. If you look up data on how food for example is transported around the world, all that would basically stop. Without oil, Billions will die. This is not an exaggeration. There is no alternative at this point in time. Perhaps, that is the goal for the people at the top?

[@potatoespoo]

⁠@@zfritz268that’s only if one day everyone decided that fossil fuels would just stop existing which is unreasonable. The reason why there has been no action to take out fossil fuels by governments isn’t because they’re the only way to prevent “billions” from dying, its because it takes time and commitment (and breaking contracts with big oil companies) to transition towards better alternatives that can work alongside of a smaller amount of fossil fuels. Like sure, billions of people rely on fossil fuels, but that’s because it’s the only energy source available in their society and they don’t have control over what form of energy they consume.

[@tiffanykim2773]

And they think acting a fool will do WHAT exactly???? 😮.

[@jdre1976]

Let's face it.. she does it for the clicks.

[@themandalorian9009]

These people are hurting their cause more than anything.

[@ranbar9094]

My guy, i kid you not when i say this, but u are one of the best news outlet out there today. In this post truth era, its so refreshing to hear a voice that try to be less biased and actually deliver the product that became so rare today, truth. Kudos to you from Israel

[@MiguelOrtiz-eq3nk]

Instructions unclear instead go for " Stop pissing people off "

[@coldmoonlight6361]

I wonder how many of them flew/drove/took a bus to DC to protest 🤔

[@diefluchendehexe5775]

99% of them!

[@fn3516]

but taking public transit is good for the environment. didn't you know that? most of them probably live there or in the region, and DC has pretty decent public transit by american standards.

[@lukehalmrast7366]

Wonder how these people would react if they were forced to use zero fossil fuels for a year, indirectly, and directly.

[@Jet-ij9zc]

Id bet they'd off themselves within 3 months. No fossil fuel means no internet(lots of rubber used in infrastructure), no driving (even electric cars and bicycles, they still have plastics, wheels, etc...), a lot of cosmetics are off the table, most products are off the table since they use plastic and many more things.

[@Patson20]

They'd starve since they'd have to grow all their own food without the use of pesticides, herbicide or fertilizer. Without rubber water hoses, without any tools at all since chemicals are used in steel processing.

[@user-nw9mn1og6s]

Have you ever heard of organic growing? Not that it matters because your point was way off on a tangent of your own making

[@Jet-ij9zc]

@@user-nw9mn1og6s organic growing still uses plastic tools

[@lukehalmrast7366]

@@user-nw9mn1og6s Yes I have heard of organic growing, In fact my family has an organic garden that I help out with frequently, I love gardening

[@TCGMetalZ]

What I took from this, people are just angry with how pathetic the government is and are just trying to find basic excuses to vent their overall frustrations.

[@STSGuitar16]

they act like literal toddlers throwing temper tantrums. Like, toddlers to a T. It appears they have the mental capacity of one, too...

[@sowmindful1501]

Plants like hemp and bamboo are great alternatives to plastic products. We don’t have to cut down millions of trees for paper bags. Will Chevron allow this to happen? Probably not, they don’t exactly like losing profits. Whichever side someone is on, I do think it’s worth it to look into alternatives, because we have to be realistic that non-renewable energy will eventually run out, and it’d be messed up to just let the future generations deal with issues created by past humans.

[@Patson20]

You do realize modern forestry replants every forest they cut right? I live in a forestry area, one that coincidentally makes paper bags. The local company owns large swaths of land that's sectioned off into plots of 100 or 200 acres. So they heavily manage each plots, cull diseased or damaged trees. Thin the forest after 10 years for pulp wood for bags, and at about 15 they cut down the big trees that were left for lumber. Then they come in and replant the whole thing and repeat the process. This also makes the forest company land a defacto wildlife management area since the forest isn't developed for decades at a time.

[@LuagoNosLivros]

Plastic is not a problem? WTF, dude?

[@brandonchavez3481]

Plastic is not the problem, people are the problem for littering

[@fn3516]

@@brandonchavez3481 people litter paper too, but that doesn't end up sticking around in the evironment for thousands of years and killing animals and ending up in our bodies through the food we eat. Plastic absolutely is the problem. is big plastic paying you to say this or something?

[@IIIISai]

@@brandonchavez3481 bro u enjoy microplastics or

[@logangirot9644]

That these people think destroying irreplaceable works of art, art meant to encapsulate the emotions and struggles of the artist- art we can never replicate or get back- is a "really good way to spread awareness of the message" hurts me to the core at such a degree I have difficulty putting it into words.

[@gnarwhal7562]

"The reason we're protesting is to bring awareness to the issue at hand". Yes, but if literally the entire world is aware and in agreement of climate change, then what good is awareness without concrete action to enact change? That's like a teenager's parents being aware that their child is severely depressed, and instead of enrolling them in therapy or counseling them through those feelings or signing them up for a recreational sports team, they just acknowledge everyday that they're depressed and nothing more. These are simply people with too much time on their hands who want to feel important about something, with no idea how to do that other than to disturb the peace yelling about a non-specific umbrella issue. Most of them can't even be bothered to educate themselves on their own cause

[@hambourje]

The argument about plastic being better than paper (for bags) is very debatable : yes cutting trees for paper bags is indeed very bad for the environment *HOWEVER* there's currently a plastic "*continent*" the size of France in the ocean. So both are bad for the environment in their own way, what we need is something different than these two solutions or something that can alleviate the amount of damage that is currently done

[@sowmindful1501]

I was also thinking that trees aren’t our only option for production. Hemp and bamboo are both very versatile plants. I think it’s also worth remembering that companies like Chevron would not want these plants being used as a plastic alternative, because well, profits.

[@ElinWinblad]

Paper products are all mostly sourced from renewable sources- if they weren’t paper company prices would be wild as they’d have to depend on random ppl selling their trees for paper 😂

[@hambourje]

@@ElinWinblad which is also why i'm saying the paper bags argument isn't all that good, the real problem with trees is deforestation for agricultural purposes

[@Patson20]

I live in a forestry area, they replant every tree they cut and manage their forests intensely. One of my exes is a forestry manager for the local forestry company. Their forests are defacto wildlife preserves between cuttings.

[@bbbbbbb51]

​@@Patson20people seem to not understand or think that forestry businesses have a financial necessity to keep forests alive. Re-planting literally ensures their business can continue to operate far into the future.

[@Yodalemos]

Just stop oil is a big oil psy-op

[@ManticMako]

If I was an oil company I'd pay a group anonymously to be against me like these activists to keep the eye off of whatever misdeeds my company had.

[@Ricer_RC]

Awesome work. Keep doing what you do 🤙🤙🤙

[@OneManMakes]

@GEN Please do a video on nuclear power in the United States! This is extremely good alternative to fossil fuels!

[@ErezElene]

Even better, nuclear waste recycling

[@dennisfischer2923]

I do like the video, but in most of your other videos you first interview them and then show your opinion, which I prefer much more for neutral journalism! Greetings from Germany

[@cocoll8635]

I hear “I don’t care what you care about, but I want you to care what I care about”

[@javiervigil2511]

The long and short, nobody knows what they're really protesting or can justify their position.

[@abetterworld96]

I'm pretty sure they drove there on an internal combustion rig. How about they come up with an idea on what we can use to replace fossil fuel that does not cost us a lot and that isn't scarce? Do they really think scientists and engineers aren't looking for better options to keep the environment clean? It's easy to complain but hard to offer a solution.

[@fn3516]

they are literally the ones encouraging and pressuring governments to invest in said better options. the solutions are there! the alternatives exist! if there's a will, there's a way, and currently from the majority of governments and corporations, there is no will.

[@user-xe7dh5bi5g]

Hello this is gonna be a great video probably

[@zevvaldina8978]

Yeah probably

[@GEN]

it will be

[@originalSiiiN]

currently maybe

[@gghhyy90]

They raised 13000 dollars and didnt use it for the environment but for themselves. Talk about being selfish. Bunch of hypocrites

[@Tai182]

All these people proved was how they don't even understand what they are doing.😂 Good job Gen for questioning the narrative of climate.

[@cajuclc]

Yeah. Chevron raised $3M for donations that they will use to cut their taxes.

[@huben_1337]

Yep

[@GEN]

This is also true

[@cajuclc]

@@GEN BTW I just wanted to point out how ridiculous companies will use the system. If each donation could be used by each person that donated and not by the company to cut taxes, I bet they would never do this again. Lol

[@richardavery4692]

They just raise their prices like all corporations do. When are people going to realize corporations don't pay taxes? We, the consumers, pay those taxes for them. It's a bullshit system to raise our taxes without telling us we're paying higher taxes every time we spend money.

[@noahdouglas4850]

That guy was right about grant money by the way, you have to fit the narrative when it comes to grants as there is a gatekeeping process to that kind of funding.

[@originalSiiiN]

so fraud is cool now i guess 🖕🏻

[@rflett5797]

It is similar to the peer review process where certain issues are given much greater leeway in the process to others.

[@d-fed]

I wasn’t sure about you bruh! I am now! Keep the content coming man this was great!

[@faxanadufire9669]

I love how they just don't even understand what they are protesting for.. sad...

[@LoveFreak18]

11:02 If she wants to contribute more might I suggest selling your car and tart running everywhere, completely eliminate that part of your carbo emissions. I do wonder on the vegan side of things, how much they think that process is consuming fossil fuels? At the end of the day I wonder how many of these people really care as much as they say they do versus wanting to be a part of a movement so they can feel special?

[@TheDotARampage]

A vegan diet yields a drastic reduction in carbon footprint compared to a diet with substantial consummation of red meat. This is mainly due to that feeding cows to produce meat is very caloric inefficient compared to eating vegetables directly, as well as methane emissions form the cows during their life time. In an assignment i had during one of the courses on my master's degree in industrial ecology at NTNU, the calculation's showed that by converting to a diet with no animal based protein i would reduce the climate impact from my meals by roughly 50% and the land use impacts by almost 30%.

[@pascalsteiner9926]

She is vegan, but flies by plane?! Does she have any idea what emits how much CO2?

[@FantasyLandNPC]

These activists want to stop oil but don't provide an alternative or solutions

[@Hannahsunshine-]

I find it very interesting that the protesters described what they do as "work". Wonder who's paying them to be there fr 👀

[@nkazitheboy906]

Gen is the best

[@zevvaldina8978]

Fr

[@11SpeedFreek11]

Ecocide!? Oh boy....

[@Sonickuforever]

You can tell most people don’t watch the full video because I don’t see a single comment about dream helping the environment

[@Mary_JaneIvory]

Talking, vandalism, and annoying people isn’t activism. Acting on what you believe is activism. Actually making a difference by changing yourself is activism. Helping the community in a way that supports your beliefs is activism.

[@EzerArthiom]

amazingly being vegan is much more ecology-unfriendly than omnivorous...

[@Tri-StateGuy]

I liked my own comment.

[@khalinen291]

Vertical cracks me up 😂 “oh idk I just got here today” like what!? 😅

[@haaaaaaaa168]

"what will be more harmful for teh environment not having a forest or having a couple of plastic bags on the forest" wise words

[@PRR-ny6eq]

I love that her only solution was ‘go vegan’ as if that doesn’t decimate the environment much more than a balanced diet

[@kannonfps]

they all uses phones, they are automatically disqualified to talk about ecology and all that shit ...

[@Nalzock]

Another great video Man! Stoked to see you getting some growth as well!

[@picklesensei]

My day is complete. Thanks gen😁

[@Pepe-uv9ze]

while i agree with the general critique of radical climate activism when it aims to obstruct the daily life of other people, I have to point out the clearly fake "neutral reporter" image GEN tries to portray. Just off the first 30 seconds of the video calling Greta Thunberg's speech at the UN a "12-year old yelling at a podium". I'm sure that GEN, if he does any research into the topics he covers, knows that she was 16 and that her tone was far from "yelling". This just video just seems like an amateur version of a Fox News report but disguised as a "neutral street interview"

[@GEN]

Like I clearly said in this video, I do have biases in this topic when it comes to performative climate activism. But, I find the immense importance of talking to people I disagree with and be open to change my opinion in light of new information. The people I talked to in the climate defiance group were respectful and clearly unlike the just stop oil activists that vandalize property and waste people’s time

[@GEN]

It’s also exactly why I wanted to share the story of Boyan Slat at the end - who I believe is really doing something for the environment

[@Pepe-uv9ze]

@@GEN what is your issue with Greta Thunbergs activism tho? She hasnt participated in any vandalizing. what part of her actions make you feel the need to call her a "12 year old yelling at a podium" when she adressed world leaders, in a tone far from anything that can be described as "yelling", at the UN at 16 years old. you talk of the importance of having discussions with people who you disagree with, which i am for 100%. but at the same time you start your video by insulting a climate activist who hasnt participated in any vandalism to your 380k followers

[@mathieul4303]

@@Pepe-uv9zegreta is no better than

[@DjArcus]

Her model of saving the climate is factually not possible to implement, just as with Just Stop Oil. I'm a flower power tree hugger myself, but I understand that money talks in this world and there needs to be logical incentives from a financial, infrastructural and cultural perspective, which differ depending on which part of the world we're talking about. An entire population can't be vegan in a food desert, anarcho-capitalists won't care at all about implementing stuff that will only cost them astronomical sums of money, countries like Brazil and China decide our future, the farmers who destroy the environment prioritises food on the table before some abstract long term goal. It's easy to get to feel like a hero by sacrificing very little in the western world and people forget that their situation is very unique worldwide in terms of having the privilege of getting to care about stuff like climate and veganism. PS: most vegan products are fertilized using either manure, urine and/or byproducts from the meat industry, so if one looks at the entirety of the production chain, exchanging all of that for green fertilizer would take an unfathomable toll on the environment. Nothing is intuitive (and seldom entirely Kumbaya) when searching for the least bad way to support climate, environment, ecosystem services and biodiversity

[@jamiedorsey4167]

That tweet at the end speaks volumes to me. Are you actually doing something about a problem you see, or do your actions mostly just make yourself feel better? Its like I always say, "If you want something done right, complain about it until someone else does it for you."

[@dBl8418]

“The world is on fire” is a wild take. There’s been 4 elements from the beginning of time on the planet: earth, water, fire and air. Sounds natural to me tbh.

[@TomJonesGearGuy]

it does not work, and we have been cleaning up since the seventies and anyone who was back then can see how much cleaning it is today

[@motomario8795]

I love the face that not a single one of them could answer any of the questions 😂

[@Marroquin4203]

You should ask them, why don’t they go live in the Amazon forests, an island or the Sahara desert where there are no big oil companies and Starbucks and see what they say then.

[@SirPeteWindsor]

These criminals just need to face the law. Simple. -- I'm curious about who pays them.

[@bigounce2704]

Banger as always, you always ask great questions