Gene Clark is 100% pure talent. He wrote better songs than the songwriters. He sang better than the singers. 100% pure talent. Same for McGuinn. A genius guitarist and visionary. I've also had the good fortune to meet both men. They spent time with me and were both very humble. We spent more time talking about my life than their's. Truly decent human beings. They were part of a generation that we will never see again.
@larrymiller43 жыл бұрын
Still, perhaps the finest, most prolific, and most under-recognized songwriter of LA rock. Great singing voice. Gene Clark is much missed.
@aisle_of_view Жыл бұрын
They're really magic together. This is so good, no band needed.
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they made a great duo ! 💖
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
“Like Peter & Gordon”…(referencing GC when he first met Jim Roger Mc at The Troubadour in LA) 😊
@normatible979510 ай бұрын
Originally, that was thejr plan. Duet. Just the two of them initially until they needed a bandy@@pamelahay6242
@johndonovan259810 жыл бұрын
Gene's harmonies during the central bridge of Chestnut Mare are sublime. When he jumps up to the high part it give me chills. A great songwriter, a supple, emotive singer. He is sorely missed.
@Ram449 жыл бұрын
+John Donovan I absolutely love Clark's harmonies on that bridge whenever they did that song. Just shows you how much better it could have been had it been the original lineup doing that song in 1970. The Byrds would have remained a top level band had Gene not left, but... Chris Hillman may not have had his breakthrough when he wrote or co-wrote 4 songs on Younger Than Yesterday.
@schmozzer9 жыл бұрын
+Ram4 Listen to what he said about how he came to write those songs at the Library of Congress talk he did.
@tomvincent71674 жыл бұрын
Listen to the harmonies on their 8 Miles High encore, even better and great song pace!
@christineparker80203 жыл бұрын
Never cared for eight miles high, but after seeing this, I finally appreciate it all because of Gene Clark. Loved seeing him perfotming it. The best Byrd.
@Tuddyboy116 жыл бұрын
This concert and footage is a collectors item! Another great Capital Theatre show that has been saved. The music of an era gone by that can no longer be matched. Today’s shit is unbearable.
@rozenaxsax51334 жыл бұрын
The Two Greatest Byrds picking and singing just like they did when they became famous and changed the world of music forever. Long Live the Byrds.
@normatible9795 Жыл бұрын
Include chris hillman. He is great too
@steamjenny42 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Clarence and David. Gram…
@serenaco.8049 жыл бұрын
Art is not bound to Time. Gene Clark proves it every time.
@thisistheworldtoday5 жыл бұрын
Gene ‘s music is hauntingly beautiful and Roger’s guitar playing is sublime... together they created masterpieces (with Dylan’s help)
@kande69163 жыл бұрын
Gene Clark!!!! Wow a true legend!!!!! Then Roger McGuinn!!! Together you have history!!!!
@PaulConnolly-in5jv Жыл бұрын
This is classic gold ! Wow I saw Mcguinn Clark Hillman in 1979. Insane show !!! Love Gene Clark - traffic !!!
@jeanniewight84715 жыл бұрын
I never heard of either Clark or McGuinn until about a week ago, and I keep going back to hear their voices and songs. I love Gene Clark, his voice, his life story, his songs, his immense talent, stage presence, and charisma. Both awesome artists.
@Vesnicie9 жыл бұрын
My love for Gene will always be there, it don't care about time.
@christineparker80203 жыл бұрын
Agree 100%. I will always love his music.
@christineparker80202 жыл бұрын
Totally agree.. I will love Gene until the clouds run out of rain - (to quote a line glfrom one of his brilliant songs.)
@theupsndowns81619 жыл бұрын
I miss Gene so much
@thebdayparty942 жыл бұрын
I wish this was all Gene Clark!! There is something so magnetic about him as an artist. I just discovered him and I can't stop listening.
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Gene had a certain mysterious air about him at times and such a “real” singer. By now I guess ( hope) you have been able to explore the full depth and breadth of GC’s music. Always seeking to express the deepest feeling about the people and places and feelings in his life ….
@teetosh3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Gene Clark was such a fine a guitarist. (fu Crosby) Apparently the sound man didn’t either...who else could make a $9,000 Martin D45 sound like $75 Stella? The black and video makes this great performance very haunting.
@KerryGrl9 жыл бұрын
I met them that night. I was doing an article for my college newspaper and had arranged an interview. I went there with my photographer friend. I was nervous having been a fan of these two men since childhood. But, they were very nice, friendly and open during our talk. Great performances and a lovely sitdown after with two gentlemen. I'll never forget that night.
@hajeem19489 жыл бұрын
+KerryGrl i can imagine two wonderous voices
@hajeem19489 жыл бұрын
+KerryGrl i can imagine two wonderous voices
@grifftrain4 жыл бұрын
KerryGrl very cool. I’m sure you remember that night very well. Did you guys take any pictures that night?
@2JohnnyBerk3 жыл бұрын
Very cool that you were able to meet and interview these two legends!
@laddeveritt89335 жыл бұрын
What a treat to be able to see those 2 guys in such an intimate, stripped down setting with their warm harmonies. The audience didn't really appreciate what happened this night.
@patricias51228 жыл бұрын
Train Leaves This Morning...achingly beautiful. Mr. Tambourine Man has never sounded better.
@jago62blue7 жыл бұрын
Lover Clarks harmony vocal on Chestnut Mare
@Schaapje12310 жыл бұрын
Never seen this before. Gene in great voice! Stupid audience. Roger good as ever. Together goose bumps. Thank you so much for uploading!
@skeetsvalk10 жыл бұрын
Beautiful footage. Thank you. God bless you Gene.
@hajeem194810 жыл бұрын
this is new new to me. two of the most beautiful voices in one gig. and... let those stupe ny-ers yell and scream at the scene... gene is the best and he will be in eternity meanwhile....i'm weeping witrh gene's voice
@Piggy-Oink-Oink9 жыл бұрын
hajeem1948 This is new to everyone..this was NOT available as a boot till this was uploaded to YT..this is the rarest recording from the Capital I have seen.
@ccryder66052 жыл бұрын
hajeem1948 - Please - make that "nj-ers", not "ny-ers". Capital theatre was in Passaic, NJ.
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
I revisit this concert every now and then and enjoy it every time. Love this “Duo”, and especially nostalgic to recall they morphed into MCH shortly after & I got to see the fresh, newly hatched ( almost The Byrds) MCH just 3 months after this Capitol Show, which was incredibly memorable. 💖
@davehoganmusic8 жыл бұрын
Gene is King.
@bmk5414 жыл бұрын
Musical perfection. I want to listen to this for the rest of my life.
@mrdan4717 жыл бұрын
There harmonies were special. Two of the best ever !!!
@HenloBoppo5 жыл бұрын
What a captivating voice. Gene sounds even better from a live capture than on his albums over the years. Thank you for uploading this!!
@Tom-bs3zh Жыл бұрын
I feel that Roger Mcguinn and Gene Clark were the true folkies of the band. They both considered themselves folk musicians with rock tendencies, and they always found themselves returning back to folk. Gene Clark especially, 75% of the music he made as a solo artist was almost purely folk music.
@pacapaca63078 ай бұрын
Ah, but Roger over the past 30 years has monthly been recording & posting traditional folk songs on his Folk Den Website to preserve & encourage others, particularly younger people to pick them up and play them forwards. His formative musical teen years were spent learning banjo, guitar at Old Town school Of Folk. Chris Hillman started learning Bluegrass Mandolin around age 15-16 &played that traditionally derived “folk music” professionally for a2-3 years before joining The Byrds. Find The Hillmen LP, on which he plays with The Gosdin Bros who sang on/with Gene Clark on hid first solo album, post Byrds. Gene’s father played Bluegrass apparently, so all three who latter fronted MCH had firm “ folk foundations”. 🙂
@pacapaca63078 ай бұрын
I’d say Gene was less a folk singer, much more a poetic introspective,singer songwriter after The Byrds, with some revisitation of his bluegrass & folkroots. He was a marvellous singer & writer. Much treasured.
@mcraygb10 жыл бұрын
Two heavyweights. They both complimented each other. McGuinn the musician. Clark the songwriter (love "Crazy Ladies" ). Magical harmonies. A rare dynamic duo ! Thank you for posting this rare video.
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
You know, I think they heard that dynamic that was “ something more” from the first time they met & jammed at The Troubadour. Their voices so different but complementary to each other. 💖
@light.truthbetold6 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a shock (haha). Gene is the one who can really sing Mr. Tamborine Man. Stupid record company put him in the background of McGuinn's vocal.
@marcbolan18182 жыл бұрын
Clark is not on the record only McGuinn (vocals & guitar) and Crosby (vocals)
@normatible9795 Жыл бұрын
That was crosby
@taipo101 Жыл бұрын
So much pleasure and haunting melodies.
@Ram449 жыл бұрын
While Gene was an original Byrd, the average "greatest hits" Byrds fan is probably unaware of how important he was to the band and how talented he was. All you need to see are the songwriting credits on the first album. Half are Bob Dylan and the other half are by Gene Clark. The best singer and songwriter of that band. McGuinn was the glue musically and Crosby was the harmony glue (if you will).
@Vesnicie5 жыл бұрын
Crosby should just be sent to the glue factory when his time finally comes.
@grifftrain4 жыл бұрын
Ram4 .... so true Ram4... I may in the minority here, but I listen to Gene Clark solo material more often than I listen to the Byrds. “No Other”, “White Light”, “Roadmaster”. we’re all good albums, with No Other being a masterpiece that somehow gets overlooked when talking about pivotal album in the country rock genre.
@normatible9795 Жыл бұрын
That is why the rest of Byrds were jealous of GC as he received more from his songwritjng . His songs are sensible, beautiful just like Hillman's songs.
@voiceguy36353 жыл бұрын
I compare McGuinn and Clark to Simon and Garfunkle--separately enjoyable,but in harmony--a magnificent,unmistakable sound--which cannot be replicated.
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
Yes! A unique pairing of two quite disparate voices which mesh so beautifully. I love “ their sound”. Pity they never recorded a Duo Album ; just the two of them as here. Ahhh….
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
Release Me Girl Never sounded so good as it is, sung here. Listen to the phrasing, to the unique vocal treatment of particular words or phrases… the sliding of notes. Silver Raven similarly. If you want to learn how to sing with real expression listen to Gene Clark. So much “feel” and transparency in his singing.
@MrKGHunter4 жыл бұрын
No other is great but where’s the love for Gene and the Gosdin Brothers? His first solo album. An underrated masterpiece.
@2JohnnyBerk3 жыл бұрын
Awesome footage of this concert. Roger and Gene sound great! That crowd would be crying now if they can see Gene perform once again.
@marcotukoff9 жыл бұрын
When they sang together, it was magical, thanxs from Brazil, valeu!!!
@andygossard429310 ай бұрын
I'm really glad they were closer in later years. Clark was still depressive I hear but these musical moments must have given him joy and satisfaction
@petedako5 жыл бұрын
Wow - so great to see this …what a massive sound and great songs THANK YOU
@redtobertshateshandles2 жыл бұрын
Love it. ❤️
@RickeyTRay Жыл бұрын
Saw this show when they took it to the Cain's Ballroom in Tulsa. Same timeframe. Front table center. One of my most cherished concert memories.
@Byrds196710 жыл бұрын
Wow, I've never seen this footage before. A rare duet concert for sure.
@roymullins49267 жыл бұрын
These Guys were like magic together...
@lucaskhoo5264 жыл бұрын
A historic concert
@PaulReus6 жыл бұрын
One word. Beautiful.
@roberts19248 жыл бұрын
Nice set. Great rendition of Mr Tambourine Man!
@ariannapucci90679 жыл бұрын
this is in my heart
@light.truthbetold6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting.
@xrxs1020 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@davidsteel83249 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. A real thrill to watch. Thanks for sharing.
@russcohen37792 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this
@flautalee30902 жыл бұрын
Wonderful performance of “Heaven’s Door.” Slower tempo makes it emotional for me.
@mrdan4717 жыл бұрын
This was a GREAT. show. Miss gene Clark. He died to soon. RIP gene. They sounded great together ✌️🍀❤️. Crazy lady's.!!! See you up north Roger. Hopefully soon.
@rickkartisable8 жыл бұрын
Rude bastards calling out "ROGER!!" while Gene is trying to sing HIS songs. Nice Byrds fans....SHEESH. Gene was the BYRDS main writer at the time. They contemplated disbanding after Gene left the group in early '66.
@thomasrobinson1823 жыл бұрын
They were obviously having a great time. Two unique talents.
@sleekfast11 Жыл бұрын
Geno. RIP, now and forever.
@danielsousa284510 жыл бұрын
Thanks MV! Cool! ;)
@minlinks12228 жыл бұрын
Memories all these songs..thanks for posting this amazing video
@Davian678 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for posting this. Means a lot, as I've been a fan since I was a kid, and what a great show!
@julieblaskie34192 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this - just so wonderful!
@donaldkress57608 жыл бұрын
Just discovering these concerts (thank goodness for YT). So awesome to hear them both. Now discovering the talent and of Gene after accidentally finding his debut album also on YT. Awesome skills.
@UweRayer9 жыл бұрын
Awesome.TY MV who ever you are.
@UweRayer9 жыл бұрын
A weldeserved +1 Highly recommended.
@MrMdblues10 жыл бұрын
Imagine: Yelling for McGuinn while Gene Clark is on the stage. Can an audience (some) have it more wrong?
@montemichelbleu10 жыл бұрын
some folks got no class.
@grifftrain5 жыл бұрын
MrMdblues Gene Clark was awesome. “No Other” is perhaps my favorite album of all time
@SingleMalt770055 жыл бұрын
drunken fools
@lastnamefirst40354 жыл бұрын
@@grifftrain one of my favorite albums No Other
@grifftrain4 жыл бұрын
Sammy Scotch great call Sammy...They just released a deluxe edition of “No Other” with different versions and outtakes. It’s really good. I recommend it
@rockbluesjazzect.153910 жыл бұрын
Have cabin fever and this made my day!!!
@M1000-y8b Жыл бұрын
Roger’s pirate song and over the top horse songs geez
@pacapaca63078 ай бұрын
A true folk storyteller. 😄
@kande69163 жыл бұрын
So what they played a couple of Bob Dylan's songs . These guys are so talented and played beautiful music and made Dylan tons of copy write monies for making hits out of his 2 songs!!
@MikeGladden Жыл бұрын
The two, along with Michael Clark's unique drumming that made the BYRD'S "THE BYRD'S" !!!!
@11dallisАй бұрын
They included my favorite verse of "Tambourine Man", which wasnt included in the single version.
@tammysymington97538 жыл бұрын
long live dillard and clark are you experienced
@spursik82522 жыл бұрын
Roger vs. Bob Dylan is like the little boy and the grown one. Bob couldn´t understand Roger´s diletantism in being the frontman, but he admired something he couldn´t figure out... Something that was saying, that he can´t be that young.... And never could. And that´s the point. Younghood is real treasure....
@wadontchabukerov33557 жыл бұрын
This is great because it shows the harmony (harmonies) Gene and Roger were doing before the Crosby top layer came into it. McGuinn and Clark sang in unison until the harmonies began. You can hear it on the old plastic records - sometimes Clark, then sometimes McGuinn on the same song. It is only without Crosby's vocals that you can understand the depth of the Clark/McGuinn input into the full sound of the Byrds. They could do low, middle and high range vocals. On a lighter note I reckon Gene needed a toilet break for Roger to do Lover of the Bayou.
@pacapaca63078 ай бұрын
Yes people credit a lot if not most of The Byrds harmonic arrangements to Crosby’s knowledge & ear, but Gene Clark sang in Church Choirs growing up, often soloing & Roger McGuinn spent his teen years listening to The Weavers, PeteSeeger, traditional folk & played for harmony based The Limeliters, The Chad Mitchell Trio & Judy Collins. Neither Gene or Roger needed Crosby to oversight their abilities to harmonise parts.
@geeman6939 жыл бұрын
I was there 35 years ago. They were opening for NRPS. Local faves Kinderhook Kreek preceded them on the bill.
@lastnamefirst40354 жыл бұрын
I came here to watch Gene. He sounds great and looks great as always. "Jim" looks like he had a bit of speed. He's got cocaine eyes. I liked mcguinn when i was really young but dont care for him since early byrds
@bronwynpowell66323 жыл бұрын
this version of bag full of money is stunning
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
I love this “so close to old timey” version of that story song. Roger was here showing the Folkie he was in his teen years and returned to being in latter years. Particularly with Jolly Roger!!! 😄
@CraigMcTaggart9 жыл бұрын
Thank for posting
@laddeveritt89335 жыл бұрын
God did Clark have a gift. And what a striking figure. But, for whatever reason, his performance here is curiously subdued, almost like he's playing alone late at night.
@pacapaca63078 ай бұрын
Intimate performances of songs, such as they draw you in. There’s a mesmerising stillness to some which has notes hanging in air, & words carefully delivered. Genius singer with wonderful vibrato qualities to his voice, used well for effect; an instrument for emotional expression. ❤
@jgwire7 жыл бұрын
gosh -- i am from this era and can name you all of the big bands that influenced me. But I'm just now realizing how much these guys brought to the table. better late than never, I suppose. But still, shame on me. lol
@jerrykibbe6363 Жыл бұрын
Camera guy was in love w/ Roger
@timothyliepins46253 жыл бұрын
wow roger mcguinn can shred who knew
@hazelmachado53605 жыл бұрын
Genios
@karyluhernandez59663 жыл бұрын
Todo tiene un momento y también hubo un momento de trabajar juntos en byrds para dar vida y forma a las grandes canciones
@roymullins49267 жыл бұрын
Hello Phillip, HOPE ALL IS WELL. .Luv ya
@davidbalint237110 жыл бұрын
I saw them in April of that year at Mich. State Univ. Second show It was also Video taped. Roger said he might have a copy of it but his old video tape player was broken, I am wondering if a copy isn't lying around MSU some place... Any Byrdmaniacs want to go and see if it's there. Let me know
@leechase491210 жыл бұрын
I was there. Erickson Kiva. Stunning!
@mayanlongcount19 жыл бұрын
i was there, too. one of the alltime great music shows!! joanne was with me. thanks guys.
@Tom-bs3zh4 жыл бұрын
Roger Mcguinn and Gene Clark were best when they played together. They brought out something magickal in each other. Gene Clark's songwriting was powerful and unique, I would argue that it was on was on par with Bob Dylan or Neil Young, especially in his post Byrd years. However he lacked the musical abilities. Roger is an excellent musician and could arrange any song and make it a hit.
@christineparker80203 жыл бұрын
Gene did not lack musical abilities. Jusy listen to his playing on Silver Raven. And he sure held jis own when McGuinn joined him on stage. I find Roger's constant bouncing up and down annoying.
@Tom-bs3zh3 жыл бұрын
@@christineparker8020 I never said Gene wasn't a good player, I personally just think Roger is a better guitarist, but Gene is a better song writer. I like Gene's solo stuff, but I think Roger's musicianship brought out something special in Gene Clark's songs.
@pacapaca63078 ай бұрын
@@Tom-bs3zhUmm, perhaps “arranging abilities “ rather than “ musical Abilities “ is what you meant? 🤔 Gene had plenty of musical ability. Roger did seem to have the ear for adapting & arranging; a talent that Gene Clark picked up on I think, the first time he heard Roger playing his folk rocked Beatles covers at The Troubadour. They recognised & respected each other’s musical strengths I suspect.
@AladdinSaneNYC10 жыл бұрын
How rude of the audience to want McGuinn onstage while GC is up to petform. That was ugly. I felt bad for Gene with that difficult crowd. That's really fucked up. Peace...AladdinSaneNYC
@montemichelbleu10 жыл бұрын
Despicable as hell. With all that I've read about him, Gene often felt insecure as a performer. I can't help but wonder how hurtful that this must have been to someone with such sensitivity as to write such beautiful music.
@somuchface9 жыл бұрын
Yes, that was rude. Typical New Jersey crowd.
@ezekielcousins92899 жыл бұрын
AladdinSaneNYC yeah what cunts
@somuchface9 жыл бұрын
Jersey idiots
@donaldkress57608 жыл бұрын
Agreed! That was really messed up. Ignorant audience.
@damonwillis36725 жыл бұрын
The time on Eight Miles is wrong in the description 55:31 is when it starts
@SL-vi4tk2 жыл бұрын
Either songwriting or vocal style... Bob Dylan's infinite reach.
@christineparker80202 жыл бұрын
This song makes me cry, knowing that Gene was slowly killing himself. WHAT A LOSS
@pacapaca63078 ай бұрын
Yep…. 😥😓😔
@clarenzlarka4 жыл бұрын
What an outstanding concert. These two were great together. Too bad Gene left the band. What if when Crosby left then Clarence White and a keyboard player joined? Notorious Byrd Brothers meet No Other!
@christineparker80203 жыл бұрын
What if Crosby hadn't been such an asshole to Gene, and he hadn't quit? Oh, the possibilities.
@lastnamefirst40354 жыл бұрын
Ooo noo I felt really uncomfortable when those idiots kept yelling for roger. Aw Gene sounds so good. Id rather have heard only him. How can people be so unkind...
@christineparker80203 жыл бұрын
I agree. GENE has one of the most beautiful voices ever. I could listen to him all day, and often do.
@lastnamefirst40353 жыл бұрын
@@christineparker8020 I listen to Gene's music alot too. I love the album "No Other" btw, its nice to see another gal commenting on music. I don't see that too often on utube. Sue (sammy and scotchguard are my cats. Rip guys)
@christineparker80203 жыл бұрын
I will always comment on Gene's music because that is all that we have left. He wrote and sang such beautiful songs. His voice was sublime. Breaks me down everytime.
@ccryder66052 жыл бұрын
@@lastnamefirst4035 I've noticed that too. Lotta fanboys commenting here on Byrds posts, but seems not too many females. Wonder why? (Unless some of them are hiding behind their usernames - lol)
@lastnamefirst40352 жыл бұрын
@@ccryder6605 Im a woman
@Turnintoearth15 жыл бұрын
For those who really like Gene Clark and The Byrds. The good news is that a very comprehensive article about Gene (popdiggers.com/gene-clark-the-byrd-and-the-best-introduction/) has been published, although we’re just about to start with the introduction, including links to his best songs. While you’re checking the article, why not take a look at the Popdiggers site (popdiggers.com/) - there are lots of articles in English - and push the “like” buttom on Facebook (facebook.com/PopDiggers/).
@ccryder66052 жыл бұрын
John Smith - I read the whole six -part blog on Gene. Really disturbing to read about his house being looted after he died, and that awful incident at his service involving David Carradine.
@roymullins49267 жыл бұрын
To my Man Baby Phillip. Enjoy
@greenwingband4 жыл бұрын
11:23 Jolly Roger yarr!!!
@thedesertroseband5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a few minutes of this capitol footage in color. Was this video made black and white on purpose?
@lillybloom15902 жыл бұрын
Clark's vocals and McGuinn's 12-string on "I'll Probably Feel a Lot Better after You're Gone" make for one of the all-time great Rock & Roll songs. “I’ll Probably Feel a Whole Lot Better When You’re Gone” Byrds (2.35) 1965 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZaueIOemLiDfs0
@thedesertroseband9 жыл бұрын
was this original shot in black and white? thanks for upping!
@bellinghammond9 жыл бұрын
i wonder why they didn't sing harmonies on the last 3 Byrd's classics
@colinstewart36997 жыл бұрын
Who knows this was a strange time and crazy days 😎🎶✌️👍🌅🎸👏👽🚀🎆🌌
@tomvincent71674 жыл бұрын
Gene playing a Martin D18?
@indigomariana7093 Жыл бұрын
I can never get over the a-holes shouting "Roger!" at Gene. 🤬
@fennis265 жыл бұрын
It's hard to believe looking at how healthy Gene Clark appears here that he would be dead 13 years later from alcoholism-induced bleeding stomach ulcers at age 46. The harmonies here are sublime and it's just a shitty waste that drugs and alcohol took him away so soon. Oh, the possibilities....
@pamelahay6242 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he deserved to see his grandchildren when they arrived. The music industry is tough and it isn’t always the most talented or gifted who survive… in fact, many like Gene get destroyed by it. 😓