General Charles De Gaulle & Winston Churchill arrive in France

[@BraveryMakuvaro]

Charles de Gaulle was the most influential Frenchman of the 20th century

[@sixmax11]

that's like saying charlie brown was the most influential comic book charachter in the 20th century. france wasn't even invited to the potsdam conference and de gaulle spent most of ww2 in london.

[@MarkHarrison733]

Actually that was Petain.

[@yannickramouillet3742]

@@MarkHarrison733 Shut up you Nazi, Pétain was a senile and dotard traitor , probably manipulated by Laval to a degree we will never know, who took advantage of the defeat to liquidate the Republic. He sold all the refugies who had found refuge in France to the nazis, organized roundups of jews (women and children for a great part) to be sent to Auschwitz, organized a fascist dictatorship in what was left of France after he sold it out.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@yannickramouillet3742 That never happened. Franco told the truth about it in 1945.

[@SteelHilsec-nk7hr]

⁠@@MarkHarrison733Petain was loved by the French. It was only the failures of the French government that wanted him tried and executed.

[@bastianherry-hue5835]

Sans de Gaulle on auraient plus de France,brave homme et un grand héro

[@BigfistJP]

Je suis d'accord. C'est triste que tant de gens ne connaissent pas sa grandeur.

[@patrickessel3317]

L'expression "brave homme" n'est pas vraiment appropriée concernant de Gaulle, on la réserve habituellement pour un gardien de square ou un promeneur de petits chiens, lol 😂 😁 🤓 😅

[@bastianherry-hue5835]

Je voulais dire qu'il avait du courage😅

[@BigfistJP]

@@bastianherry-hue5835 C'est vrai. Un géant parmi les hommes.

[@N115TB]

@@BigfistJPIl mesurait près de deux mètres.

[@genekelly8467]

Whatever you can say about DeGaulle-he was 100% for France

[@chourtout]

That's why Americans still hate him, he knew exactly what they wanted to do with France after the war

[@guerre1859]

Unlike Churchill--who mortgaged Britain to the Yanks !

[@MarkHarrison733]

He destroyed France.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@chourtout France had been in constant decline since the 19th century, like the British Empire.

[@Bracus.Reghusk]

@@MarkHarrison733 No since 1919 it has, the destruction of his young population during the first world war destroyed France very hard, even if a small decline start 1871.

[@bobbybob3865]

Eisenhower's greatest accomplishment was getting Montgomery and De Gaulle to work together.

[@kek397]

Montgomery, De Gaulle, and George Patton

[@Hauggyful]

First of all De Gaulle was never told about the allied landings, second the Americans had prepared a US administration with US officials to rule France they even had their own fake money printed (AMMGOT). Now understand why De Gaulle was royally pissed and insisted on not celebrating D DAY as a national holiday.

[@lemongate4869]

Absolutely. He was treated badly by the British and Americans.

[@mharley3791]

The reality is you don’t really get to say when you do not have an army, You can say your nation is occupied, and other people are fighting to liberate your country.

[@louise_rose]

@@mharley3791 Elensky would have lasted how many weeks without the massive support of weapons, money and intel he has been receiving non stop from NATO? But somehow the US and UK think it's entirely appropriate that he should get to lecture everybody else about whet they must do, need to do, how many more aircraft they need to send him , how to treat other countries etc etc? 😄

[@trajan75]

With or without an army DeGaulle was a crucial figure. He probably saved France from a Communist takeover.

[@revertnicolas5977]

@@mharley3791 Depend of the country. When the country is France, things are different.

[@thedelorian2773]

1:38 what is Tom Holland doing there?

[@POB_journo]

Thought you meant the historian

[@philippethierry983]

bonsoir je lis beaucoup de commentaires sur De Gaulle très négatif , mais rien été facile à l' époque, il était seul bien - sûr; il était en Angleterre, c' était un homme visionnaire avec ces défauts comme tous les grands hommes. imaginé qu' auriez vous fait à sa place.

[@Richard-d1y]

I think people fail to understand his situation. France was humiliated. A great nation brought to its knees, and to make matters worse, dependent upon your greatest historical rival for your survival and liberation. De Gaulle had to maintain the pride and dignity of the French people in his own demeanour for the morale of the French people. He behaved arrogantly, that is true, but I think it was necessary. I am sure that behind the scenes he expressed deep gratitude to us Brits.

[@Christus_er_herren]

Churchill and De Gaulle, hero's of Europe!

[@GerardCotton-gx4sd]

C'est exact. Winston et les Anglais ont tenu pendant deux ans de toute leur force et seuls l'inviolabilité du camp de la démocratie et de la liberté humaine. C'est tellement énorme! Les mots sont encore impuissants à décrire cet instant gigantesque.

[@asificare5093]

@@GerardCotton-gx4sd Again in the universal language please?

[@Thibolteur]

​@@asificare5093non

[@SpookyFox1000]

Churchill thought De Gaulle a complete knob !

[@MarkHarrison733]

Churchill destroyed Europe and the British Empire.

[@vonmackston7571]

De Gaulle once said "France doesn't have friends only interests"

[@Supcoop23]

No he didn’t he said: Man have freind head of state only interest (he wrote that after taking the power in France has a way of saying to Churchill no hard feelings you did what you did and had to do has the prime minister of the UK after the many disrespect he suffered between 1942 and 1944 especially telling him of d day only the 4th of June. Churchill being worried he will hold a grudge after the war distancing France from the UK)

[@hectorbalmaseda7690]

this sentence is a british one: Disraeli or Peel said , Idr exactly

[@exposedclickbaitaRblx]

Geopolitics be like

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

What De Gaulle really meant: "I don't have friends, only interests" 😂

[@feliscorax]

@@hectorbalmaseda7690 Lord Palmerston said it first, but it’s old wisdom that can also be found in Tacitus and Thucydides.

[@jobkibuga8268]

Monty was a short fearless man

[@MarkHarrison733]

He should have been prosecuted for child abuse.

[@angloaust1575]

Theodore rooseveldt jnr actually landed on d.days Utah beach didn't mind getting his feet wet! And general sosabowski jumped into arnhem at the age of 52 These were real heroes!

[@MarkHarrison733]

D-Day was a huge mistake, like Market Garden.

[@angloaust1575]

It was a calculated risk which paid off Although not many free french Actually participated in the Initial invasion until later When the beaches had been Secured The american and british bore The brunt of the main attack!

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@angloaust1575 D-Day ensured the survival of Communism.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@angloaust1575 D-Day was to save western Europe from Stalin.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@angloaust1575 We fought the wrong enemy.

[@muradmohammadi330]

مرد افسانه ای شال دوگل مرد بزرگ مردی ک در قلب تاریخ فرانسه همچون ستاره ی می‌درخشد

[@patrickessel3317]

Deux étoiles ! ⭐⭐ General de brigade. 😏

[@alexsmith-gn4tp]

And now ? Only for you Muslims to invade & ruin Europe !

[@boris8787]

Excellent historical video.

[@mariainesdelvallemamani2297]

NO GREO ESA LOCURA ❤!!!

[@patrickessel3317]

Vous avez besoin d'aide ? Pourquoi criez vous ? (majuscules sur les réseaux sociaux = CRIER). 😮😅 😠

[@francisebbecke2727]

De Gaulle, it was easier to be his enemy than to be his ally.

[@kevinbrennan-ji1so]

He was an ally. Often annoying and frustrating and obstinate. But in the end, an ally.

[@sixmax11]

well allied forces did drop thousands of bombs on northern france and the royal navy sunk the french fleet in the Mediterranean. i often wonder, if france really was on the side of the allies.

[@kevinbrennan-ji1so]

@@sixmax11 Depends on the date and location of the action, of course. That type of vague statement is a bit irresponsible. France was comprised of various political factions, including not a small amount of fascists pre-ww2, during and after. We in the US also had and have our own small share of such peoples and we have to be ever vigilant against these types. FDR said his greatest fear was to defeat the fascists abroad only to have them take hold in America.

[@sixmax11]

@@kevinbrennan-ji1so Battle of Mers-el-Kébir) on 3 July 1940. royal navy sank the french fleet. the Allied Forces bombed many locations in France. In all 1,570 French cities and towns were bombed by the Allies between June 1940 and May 1945. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_France_during_World_War_II

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@kevinbrennan-ji1so FDR was a Stalinist Communist.

[@samdumaquis2033]

Un grand Homme Degaule

[@10Lakis]

What documentary is this?

[@WNH3]

Was Winnie flying in a Storch?

[@felixmaier9309]

That must have been a Fieseler stork!

[@sixmax11]

you would think the prime minister could secure better transport

[@TarpeianRock]

@@sixmax11the Storch was an excellent plane. Could be that Montgomery lent Winnie his Storch (captured in North Africa)

[@sixmax11]

@@TarpeianRock may have been a great plane. but, he was the prime minister and i did not see any defensive ability. he also might have had escort planes that we can't see in this video.

[@Jeanemilr-hn7tj]

LA FRANCE FRANÇAISE AUX CLOCHERS, ☀️🌙🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🍀

[@EricPham-gr8pg]

He was smartest leaders because he seek peace as soon as ww2 over

[@wonjubhoy]

The greatest frenchman of all time.

[@BigfistJP]

Napoleon would like a word with you.

[@jakezywek6852]

Napoleon was Corsican, not French.@@BigfistJP

[@MasterCalensk]

@@jakezywek6852 when he was born in Corsica, France owned it. He was born in France

[@Saint_Edward_987]

@@jakezywek6852 Corsican is French.

[@jean-Pierre-bt8xw]

@@jakezywek6852 some should open hsitorical books before saying stupidities... Corsica was a french province before Napoleon's birth... Therefore he was French and he was also calling him French... BTW corsicans are French as Limousins, Aquitains, Bretons, Chtis, Alsacians, poitevins, Charentais and so on all french regions.

[@StevenOBrien]

3:31 I know Churchill didn't care very much for the French, but there was no need for him to make such rude hand gestures towards those women.

[@NiKkoFTW]

VIVE LA FRANCE CHETIENNE

[@jeremypintsize7606]

Tu as quoi contre le athées le fondamentaliste.. Liberté égalité laïcité ça s'applique aussi bien aux bonzes , qu'au curés, qu'au imams et qu'aux rabbins. Tu veux m'imposer ton ami imaginaire car tu crois en dieu comme un bon SS - les SS devaient jurer croire en dieu -

[@lapinmalin8626]

@@jeremypintsize7606 L'athéisme a été mis en place en France par la franc maçonnerie je te conseille de te renseigner sur l'affaire des fiches de 1904 remets tes idées en questions avant de demander aux autres d'arrêter d'être croyant et de demander une France Chrétienne

[@Wallace-oh6qy]

​@@jeremypintsize7606Robespierre was theist and a tyrant

[@Thibolteur]

En quoi dire vive la france chrétienne est contre les athées moi je le dit sans rejeter forcément tous les aspects de la france

[@adridell]

​@@Thibolteur La France n'est plus Chrétienne depuis 1905. Demain peut disparaître la religion chrétienne du territoire que la France restera debout. C'est un état laïc et une société multiculturelle. Parler de France chrétienne n'a plus aucun sense aujourd'hui.

[@plasticbucket]

Allo Allo.

[@archimedesfromteamfortress2]

2:36 ultimate middle finger for the Jerries, flying their own plane to ferry the prime minister!

[@filmneek]

He may have been an anglophobe but he’s a bloody good chap regardless.

[@wdobni]

it was a wonderful war ... it rivals the best the greeks could create in The Iliad ..... if you had to invent a script for the perfect war you couldn't improve on WW2 .... everything good and great that has happened in the world has happened in europe, even the bad things were translated somehow into the pantheon of man's noblest undertakings in some shape or form ... as brutish as the worst of it was, it was overcome by even greater application of selfless determination and excellence by so many people in so many ways and places

[@cordos2362]

De Gaulle, the last great Frenchman.

[@TommyTombs]

The good old days

[@Kru12794]

Yes good old days where people were dying in the millions. How much of an idiot you have to be to think this was good.

[@veteranpg3d156]

Except the War, yes. It sucked even for Civillians

[@grahamcook9289]

Churchill lands in a Fieseler Storch no less!

[@MasterControl-MCP]

Nice to show de Gaulle an army that don’t surrender.

[@MarkHarrison733]

The UK was a satellite of the United States.

[@LisboaCigar]

Despite how instrumental he was in being a political counter to the Vichy regime, he was still a dangerous nationalist, as stated by Churchill

[@MarkHarrison733]

Churchill was a traitor.

[@revertnicolas5977]

And thats why he was the President of France from 1959 to 1969. He himself said it in 1958 to those who were afraid of him: "Why do you want me to start a career as a dictator at the age of 67?

[@revertnicolas5977]

easy, easy...

[@jcb5782]

Strange comments here. Directing the future of Free France from the closest unoccupied capital city to allow yourself instant contact with other allied forces and the remainder of your regular ground troops and officer staff is…not good enough for you all? What was the man supposed to do? Pick up a rifle in 1940 and lead a bayonet charge straight to Berlin? Stand atop a tank chanting the Marseillaise while machine gun bullets bounce off his iron chest? Life is not a movie. De Gaulle was a legend who deserves to be remembered as such.

[@MarkHarrison733]

De Gaulle was a traitor to France.

[@jamesaiden6073]

Strange, no. Ignorant, yes.

[@janklaas6885]

2:15

[@nikolaasp2968]

The British and Americans had sidelined De Gaulle for most of the war and continually plotted behind his back to replace him at the head of the French resistance, the Americans in particular had preferred to recognize Vichy instead of the French government in exile. They had planned to establish AMGOT in France and rule the country as an occupied territory, the importance taken by De Gaulle its Free French Forces and the resistance prevented them from doing so.

[@patrickessel3317]

​@@nikolaasp2968merci de rappeler la vérité historique. C'est tout cela que les beaufs incultes ignorent quand ils accusent de Gaulle d'avoir été lâche et de s'être caché au Royaume-Uni pendant la guerre, alors que son action était indispensable et nécessaire hors de France. Sur le territoire français, il aurait été vite repéré et éliminé, comme sa nièce Geneviève, qui a été envoyée en camp. De Gaulle a été irremplaçable, politiquement il n'y avait rien au dessus de lui. GIRAUD était une marionnette de très mauvaise qualité, et ne parlons pas du pauvre Maréchal-nous-voilà, qui est le "héros" traître admiré par ceux qui détestent de Gaulle. 😢

[@peterfcoyle9127]

details was never informed of invasion. Schedule. He had a spy on his staff.

[@Kondasnaker]

🎖️

[@cine1972]

LV : Louis Vuitton

[@waynelittle646]

De Gaulle didn't like needing help🤔but he was hiding in England until it was safe to go back😂

[@TommyTombs]

Trudeau I

[@mattyc7]

No he wasn't. In fact he was in North Africa as soon as Operation Torch secured it.

[@waynelittle646]

He left for England in June 1940

[@aorum3589]

The British and the Americans would have certainly preferred him to hide but instead De Gaulle formed a French government in exile as well as the Free French forces which were involved as soon as July 1940 against the Lutwaffe during the Battle of Britain, and as soon as September 1940 De Gaulle was in Dakar to supervise the engagement of the Free French forces during the Battle there.

[@MarcPlaysDrums]

Wait…that’s the first thing the narrator said. Dang…they started out highlighting how powerless he was! 😂😂😂 So what you’re not fond of help. You’ll ask for it and like it. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@magnacz]

Churchill writes about DeGaule being a difficult guest in England. Also he refused to hand over the french fleet to GB instead sailed to a harbor far away and Churchill had to scuttle the ships so the germans wouldnt be able to take them. The french were willing to take that risk even though that would have harmed the english tremendously.

[@louise_rose]

The French navy in the summer of 1940 was a very difficult situation for both Churchill and de Gaulle. Churchill later said that sinking part of the French fleet was the most hateful decision he had to take during the entire war. General de Gaulle, on the other hand. had no control at all over those ships,;their commanders and the man in charge of them, admiral Darlan, saw the Vichy regime, led by Pétain, as the legitimate leaders of France (a regime that had accepted German control of Paris and had already passed a death sentence on de Gaulle as a traitor and mutineer). The only way those ships could have been handed over to the English would have been through a massive revolt of the sailors on board, and that would probably have seen some of them opening fire at each other because some ships would have been under "Vichy control", others under "rebel control" de Gaulle didn't hav a say on the situation - to the folks leading those ships, they were anchored in their own country (French North Africa) and they saw Vichy as the legal French government so of course they refused to take orders from the British and stuck to the position that the ships would remain outside of the war, but anchored in that port in North Africa. de Gaulle hated the humiliation of the French navy, it was as bad for him as the rapid loss of Singapore to the British a year later, but he may have felt that it was inevitable under the circumstances.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@louise_rose Churchill's unnecessary war crime achieved nothing.

[@louise_rose]

@@MarkHarrison733 I agree. London tried to dress it up as a show of resolve - like, burning your bridges behind you - but that was a rather hollow explanation.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@louise_rose All it did was increase support for the Vichy regime.

[@louise_rose]

@@MarkHarrison733 Right - I mainly wanted to point out that de Gaulle had no part in the affair...It seems to me that British people often have a hard time understanding the situation with a government at home and a government in exile, and the two are on opposite sides and regard each other as traitors. That's not a situation that's ever happened in British or US history, but it has occurred in some other countries. de Gaulle had not been officially appointed as leader by anyone from the old government (he had been a junior minister in it for short time).So he was politically a self-made man, albeit with assistance from Churchill - but he and his circle, over time, became a kind of de facto French government in exile.

[@sandramenzies4401]

The French gave in with the Germans deciding maybe worth collaborating with them than showing a bit of back bone and courage

[@MarkHarrison733]

France never surrendered.

[@kerim.s8801]

@@MarkHarrison733 cap

[@Ingremance]

Could you rewrite your sentence in correct English? Much obliged.

[@qenyaithandrill7848]

@@MarkHarrison733 France almost entirely surrendered. The French resistance was a speck of dust compared to the Polish or Russian resistance.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@qenyaithandrill7848 Poland was Nazi Germany's first ally. France-in-exile was France during the Occupation.

[@williamdarby5922]

After hiding in LONDON

[@chourtout]

Sentenced to death by Vichy*

[@zhugeliang2926]

Voyageant de l Afrique aux moyens Orient pour contre carrer les veilliter anglo saxone

[@samdumaquis2033]

What a stupid thing to say, he was sentenced to death in France for resisting

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@samdumaquis2033 For betraying France.

[@lemongate4869]

Nineteen governments were in exile in London during WW2. This doesn't include Monarchs of European Monarchies, who were also in exile in London. What de Gaulle did was perfectly normal. His contact with the Resistance and regular radio broadcasts were vital for the French morale.

[@HammerJammer81]

He did nothing but take credit from others.

[@mariobonilla4960]

He was hert in the 1st WW in an arm par la bayonet. Un medecin uruguayen le guerit a l'hopital de campagne.

[@peppertrout]

2:17 “no British or Americans present…” 0:22 who got him there?

[@Pete-rs4yz]

Charles De Gaulle: When thee Americanz liberate Le Paris I will go back to parade through ze streets and take zee credit.

[@yannickramouillet3742]

Except Paris liberated himself, with railway, subway and Police going on strike and then the FFI entering into insurrection, taking german soldier's weapons and seizing key points. Then it was Leclerc's 2nd armored division which insured the rest of the city was liberated. A thousand resistance (FFI) fighters died from the 19th to the 25th of august alongside 156 french soldiers from the 2DB. Fortunately De Gaulle and Leclerc insisted for the 2DB to be sent, because the Americans were going to let the entire population of Paris be subjected to the nazi repression and the resistance fighters killed or deported (which was arguably worse than death) , just like the Soviet had done in Warsaw. Bradley confessed in his memories (A Soldier's history, 1952) : "The city no longer had any tactical significance. Despite its historic glory, Paris was no more than an ink blot on our maps; it had to be avoided on our march to the Rhine". The Overlord forecasts were aimed primarily at the Ruhr basin, where German heavy industry was concentrated, with the liberation of Paris scheduled for the end of October."

[@samdumaquis2033]

Paris had risen up and was fighting the germans, my grandfather participated. The first allied unit in Paris was the French under General Leclerc, read a bit of history before embarrassing yourself

[@mariobonilla4960]

Spanish enter Paris.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@mariobonilla4960 Spain was part of the Axis.

[@andyx2299]

"LOOK ARROUND YOU TODAY AND YOU SHALL SEE WHO WAS RIGHT"

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

Who was? And about what exactly?

[@simonrobillard]

​@@tomorrowneverdies567Ignore him. It's a fascist/racist dogwhistle. By "looking around", I bet he means look at the immigrants

[@kjohnson6048]

De Gaulle was a wimp.

[@cucinare-da-zero]

I'm surprised your mommy lets you use the puter

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@cucinare-da-zero He was a traitor.

[@lemongate4869]

@MarkHarrison733 Why was he a traitor? Because he went into exile in London to prevent from being executed? Nineteen European governments went into exile in London during WW2. This doesn't Include the governments that were already in exile when war broke out. Monarchs from European Monarchies also went into exile in London. This is a perfectly normal thing to do in war time. From their place in exile they work behind the scenes caring for ex Pats in England but also boasting morale of the citizens in their own countries by radio broadcasts, as de Gaulle did. He was responsible for the soldiers of the Free French that had escaped to France after Dunkirk and escaped POWS.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@lemongate4869 Churchill betrayed the UK, and de Gaulle betrayed France.

[@PaulB-eq5bx]

De Guille hated us, yet we saved his country twice in 40odd years. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧.

[@Jimdixon1953]

And helped foil the Jackal’s attempt to assassinate De Gaulle in 1963 … hang on that wasn’t real 🤔

[@biddyboy1570]

That's why he hated us. Not because it was us but because it needed help.

[@chourtout]

He didn't hate england you fool

[@MarkHarrison733]

France invaded Germany in 1939. Britain did not have the ability to save anyone.

[@PaulB-eq5bx]

@@MarkHarrison733 Only brief one but no surprise that gave up and withdrew.

[@fumblerooskie]

Yet, 22 years later, de Gaulle's mind weakened by hubris and self-importance, and while visiting a country that sacrificed tens of thousands of its freedom-loving citizens for his country's freedom, he was unceremoniously ejected from the country for insulting everyone in it. Brittany for the Bretons indeed.

[@Gutvald]

Il a démissionné suite à l'échec du référendum, il n'a pas été "éjecté".

[@patrickessel3317]

N'importe quoi, arrête de falsifier l'histoire que tu ignores, espèce de foldingo menteur. De Gaulle n'a été expulsé de rien du tout. Il n'a insulté personne, tu as beaucoup d'imagination et de fantasmes mythomanes en toi. excuse toi immédiatement, ou ça va mal se passer. 🤪💩 😠

[@yannickramouillet3742]

Lol we have here a Canadian which is still offended by a speech which occurred in 1967 ! Les québecois en crisse de liesse sur la place de l'hôtel de ville ne se sentaient pas vraiment insultés par le discours du général, cité par beaucoup comme un des évènements du début de la "révolution tranquille". La Bretagne n'a rien à voir avec le Québec, il existe un mouvement d'indépendance du Québec et souhaiter cette indépendance d'un point de vue français n'est en aucun cas une insulte envers le Canada et les canadiens, simplement un exercice de la liberté d'expression.

[@jamesaiden6073]

Found the butt hurt Canadian.

[@winstonp.prescott3845]

The dude did literally nothing, he just happen to be in England(because no one liked him)at the time!

[@lemongate4869]

You clearly have low history literacy.

[@0Zolrender0]

French... you save their country twice and this is how they repay you.

[@mrsupremegascon]

Twice ?

[@MarkHarrison733]

The UK could not even save itself.

[@0Zolrender0]

@@mrsupremegascon Both world wars.

[@mrsupremegascon]

@@0Zolrender0 Lol France totally carried WW1. France fell in 1940 partialy due to UK low commitment and them fleeing once the fight started.

[@pliat]

@@mrsupremegasconFrance did not ‘totally carry’ WW1. France carried the western front, but that would have been useless if not for the Royal Navy slowly starving out Germany, and later inflicting a massive strategic loss to the germans (jutland). Germany lost because they were starved out, almost like a gigantic siege. UK and France carried WW1, and the USA joining only shortened it.

[@ambrogiogatti3429]

De Gaulle e Churchill: due personaggi che si tennero ben lontani dalle battaglie, per poi saltare sul carro del vincitore a cose fatte. De Gaulle marcio' a Parigi per primo facendo credere ai francesi che fu lui il liberatore, quando invece non fece nulla. Churchill "guidava" i suoi soldati nella battaglia, ma a 500 km di distanza ed ubriaco da mattina a sera. Due personaggi largamente sopravvalutati dalla Storia.

[@davidrenton]

actually Churchill went to the frontline against advice and was nearly shot by the Germans when they where crossing the Rhine at Buderich, an area not totally in control of the Allies, Churchill had fought in 3 wars, leading the charge , with confirmed enemy kills. he went with monty , a us general and a british general some aides and a handful of troops they crossed the rhine in a landing craft. the moved to Wesel which was occupied by Germans, standing on a bridge , the German artillery noticed the party and targetted them , only narrowly missing them .Churchill was reported to be having a great time. He subsequenty did it twice after. These events where confirmed by the people in the party He also had requested to go in the 1st wave alongside the King at D-Day , both where refused. Churchill was the most experienced leader who served out of all leaders. I don't see FDR(fair enough), Degaulle , Mussolini, Stalin or the austrian painter doing the same Churchill was a functional drunk ,

[@alioshax7797]

​@@davidrentonDe Gaulle fought as well and was wounded at Verdun, then enrolled for the French forces in Poland in 1920, and then again in Syria in 1922. In fact, at one point or another, all 1940s world leaders who had served in the military prior to their political career had seen fire, and more than once. The 1920s were not peaceful times for young soldiers.

[@davidrenton]

@@alioshax7797 yes the only ones who did'nt serve really was FDR and Stalin

[@alexturner8104]

My Grandfather was at Normandy and participated in freeing France. He said the french were famous for staying on the sidelines until the Americans and British drove the germans out of sectors and then demanded that THEY would march into the towns once the germans were driven out and pretend to the french people that THEY liberated them.

[@alexturner8104]

@OTTOMATT-me9cp Oh? I notice that Canada is independent now too. Go back to your basement

[@France1920]

Les américains, vous avez violé plus de femmes Françaises que les Nazis. Vous nous colonisez, pire que ce que faisais l'Allemagne. Vous nous avez wokisé. Voilà.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@alexturner8104 D-Day was a huge mistake.

[@alexturner8104]

@@MarkHarrison733 Please explain why it was a mistake

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@alexturner8104 It ensured Communism survived.

[@MarkHarrison733]

France should never have invaded Germany in 1939.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@OTTOMATT-me9cp The UK and France started two world wars to preserve their colonial empires.

[@thierrydesu]

@@MarkHarrison733 Ah ? The wars were not planned by the banks?

[@xbmpr]

@@MarkHarrison733totally, that’s why it destroyed both their empires. Silly billy.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@xbmpr That was not their intention.

[@francko.2951]

France never invaded Germany in 1939.

[@MarkHarrison733]

De Gaulle betrayed France, just as Churchill betrayed the British Empire.

[@lemongate4869]

How?

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@lemongate4869 By supporting Communism.

[@revertnicolas5977]

And you betrayed your intelligence.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@revertnicolas5977 We should have helped Germany.

[@revertnicolas5977]

@@MarkHarrison733 Vichy did that.

[@onglaangh8913]

First comment 😂😂😂

[@patrickessel3317]

Absolument magnifique. J'en reste bouche bée. 😮😅😂🤣 😁 🤢

[@bigdogzone3177]

DeGaulle was a coward when the Germans advanced he was a tank commander who abandoned his unit to the Germans and ran away ( Joke is he broke the land speed record and he retreated all the way to London. Neither ROosvelt nor Chruchil trusted him but they used him anyway because he was the only frenchman they had and can control. He even had no clue about the d-day landings till they put him on a ship. After the war he commited crimes such as letting his soldiers loot and execute prisoners of war and also he was responsible for the massacres in Algiers !

[@ChristopherMorris-w1t]

As a result of French weakness and indecision Dunkirk happened. And who rescued the troops at Dunkirk who were totally stranded - The British. No sign of the French.

[@Thehiddentruths-rj4fn]

@@ChristopherMorris-w1t No sign of the French? "On the 29th and 30th May, the Germans, exasperated by the fierce resistance of the French troops, used flamethrowers and incendiary bombs but the defence didn't weaken, despite the loss of several points of support and several requests for surrender were refused by the defenders. Finally on the 31st in the middle of the afternoon, General Waeger offered General Molinié the honors of war in exchange for his surrender. Out of ammunition and strength, he accepts and the French troops parade with their weapons in front of a German detachment which pays them the honors. The stubborn resistance of these troops, 40,000 men with 50 tanks, delayed by 4 days 7 German divisions (about 120,000 men) with 800 tanks which were attempting to destroy the Allies at Dunkirk."

[@jamesaiden6073]

@bigdogzone3177 What a warped sense of history you have.

[@bigdogzone3177]

@@jamesaiden6073 read Churrcill books

[@jamesaiden6073]

@@bigdogzone3177 Yea I'm sure there was no bias there.

[@SpookyFox1000]

A somewhat ludicrous man !

[@zillsburyy1]

de gaulle lol

[@waynelittle646]

I'm safe in England 😂

[@TommyTombs]

Trudeau I

[@zillsburyy1]

@@TommyTombs he sux

[@patrickessel3317]

Et pourquoi lol ? 🤔 😕

[@MarkHarrison733]

D-Day was a huge mistake.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

How was it a mistake exactly? And also, mistakes can only exist if you have defined a target.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@tomorrowneverdies567 It ensured Communism survived.

[@tomorrowneverdies567]

@@MarkHarrison733 yes but they had no better choice.

[@MarkHarrison733]

@@tomorrowneverdies567 The only threat in 1939 was from Communism.

[@wachtamrhein3022]

Leech.

[@Moh-zr4gf]

Arabic

[@CapFerreira]

De Gaule The gay🇫🇷👠🏳️‍🌈

[@Rumysjshargykukilqd]

Tf u weirdo

[@cherbinsfleurisme9653]

Ur mommy was a lesbian

[@ihorperec4990]

He was married though

[@cherbinsfleurisme9653]

😂😂😅Ur family

[@anakinwho8736]

Tf ? as a gay person i really don't see the link between Degaulle and Gay comunity can you explain ?

[@da1vinci1edi]

Putting Nosferatu on a boat and bringing him to mainland Europe , Brits you stinky fidgets..

[@TommyTombs]

😂😂😂

[@patrickessel3317]

Pauvre foldingo ! 🤣 😠

[@cordos2362]

De Gaulle, the last great Frenchman.

[@MichaelJ44]

😂😂😂

[@CuboidCheese]

He was a pathetic weasel who gained his fame from undermining the success of better men while contributing nothing

[@monsieurgentil]

​@@MichaelJ44?