Generation Kill - Rob Zombie

[@redcoat8664]

Walt hadn't slept in more than 24 hours. He had been busy, trying to get the defective mark 19 on the Humvee to operate properly. It malfunctioned several times in combat. Colbert had told him to get some shuteye, but Walt insisted on fixing the gun. In the end, he only succeeded, after Lt. Fick managed scrounge some lube. Right before this scene, Fick gets word of insurgent attacks, which visibly made Walt nervous. Also notice how unsure the driver was. Probably the first he'd seen something like this, resulting in insecure, jerky movements. So: it's really a combo of logistical failures, combat stress and basic human miscalculation. Pawel Szajda's acting + the hints spread around = epic content.

[@potato-ud6yv]

it's a mk19 not a 50

[@alexmelchorgaytan557]

You must work for Hollywood🕹. Or have a degree In psychology 😂 jk bro

[@redcoat8664]

@@potato-ud6yv And I stand corrected.

[@lubedupduck69bigpp16]

The divers daughter was killed in a firefight that day, this was likely and act of suicide

[@adamschaeffer4057]

I don't see the problem here. Had that been me I would have been standing ankle deep in brass before the smoke even went out. Fuck it. Better safe than sorry

[@theduke7539]

I like how the CO starts off pissed because he didnt follow ROE but instantly changes as soon as he looks at the guy and sees that something's not right.

[@Spyderfarmman]

The guy dead was a little girls dad whom was killed in an earlier firefight, Guy looked as if he did it on purpose too(dead guys face wasn't angry or scared)

[@KolibriMert]

Wasn't a CO, that was the Sergeant, the Platoon Commander was behind him to see what was happening before returning to his vehicle to get on the radio.

[@ethanlambert5256]

Botanicstone 62 You’re thinking of a different guy, the father of the dead girl had a goatee and curly hair

[@bpanda8310]

Hate to ask please dont kill me but what does ROE stand for

[@bpanda8310]

Rules of engagement my bad

[@LOKITYZ]

One thing (in a list of so many things) that's so incredible about this show is how they were able to get mostly unknown actors to deliver such incredible emotional and realistic performances. Walt's reaction here felt so fucking real it made me so stressed out.

[@machrider3223]

Yeah, but remember that fame has nothing to do with talent.

[@casioak1683]

Pawel acting is so spot on.. I would be on that state of shock too if I were in the same situation as him

[@Dr.HannibalLecterVIII]

Brad switching gears from angry and reprimanding to compassionate and reassuring as soon as he sees how Walt is affected is amazing. Shows how much of a leader he is that he reacted first as a sergeant, then assessed how his guy was doing, and still went team leader on him, but in a different way to accommodate what the new situation was. Fucking astounding.

[@johndthottam]

portrayed as humanely as its supposed to be. No super soldier, adrenaline junky crap.. Love this series..

[@halo3odst]

"Lawers get weeks to go over decisions we get seconds to make."

[@vorticalacorn7ok906]

That quote is so true

[@vorticalacorn7ok906]

Especially nowadays with everyone going after police officers

[@mikeymc3094]

halo3odst Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6

[@sandiabill1]

Anonymous Person: Damn, that’s some first hand knowledge shit right there

[@saintjohn8499]

Oh yeah

[@tbiggart1]

A recent article on PTSD sheds new light on this whole new light on the subject. She argued that shame, rather than fear, is often the motivator. One of her cases were some soldiers manning a check point. A group of cars kept closing, ignoring all warnings. Per SOP, the soldiers then engages the vehicles, killing drivers and stopping the vehicles. Men, women and children, no weapons, no explosives. Several of those troops were later treated for PTSD by the author. She found a common theme in that they all were ashamed that they could not stop the cars without killing civilians, even though they followed all standing SOP.

[@SmokeDog1871]

Ya an SOP most american civilians dont hear about is that they cant stop their vehicles if there's been any contact. Our troops have run over alot of little kids in their humvees. Source: a combat vet with really bad PTSD

[@dylanmorgan2752]

So it probably doesn’t help when you get certain overweight hippy sacks of shit, who see servicemen in an airport returning from a tour of duty, to then proceed and spit on them shouting baby killers. Peace activists always have been on another level of insane when it comes to their privilege.

[@robertbrown6933]

This is why I'm ashamed of how some people treat our military members. They had an extremely hard job, and were forced to make life changing/ending choices in a split second. It's important for them to know their country stands behind them no matter what. They are human and make mistakes. But if it was your life on the line and your fellow soldiers lives on the line, would you not act? To all military active and vets, I support and thank you for everything you do for our country

[@irongerry847]

+Misa Kiv How about we take you, all your best friends. Put them on a road in the middle of a warzone. And then have a car drive at you full speed ignoring warning shots, and see how you and your buddies respond. Don't criticize unless you've been in the situation.

[@misakiv6012]

How about we stop giving a shit about the braindead meatheads that chose to be on a warzone and shoot innocent civilians, and instead we give a shit about the innocent civilians stuck in a war torn country?

[@christiangoforth6694]

so this is actually a lot worse in the book. when this happens, one of the rounds entered the mans eye socket and deflected upwards, entering his frontal cortex and blowing the front part of his brain out of his skull. it effectively lobotomized him, and didnt kill him but instead turned him into a vegetable immediately. it took him 2-3 hours to die, as he just sat in the front seat of the car doing nothing but slowly breathing because of the natural reflex of the body.

[@pineappleginseng1557]

Damn, that's fucked... What a shitty situation... I don't know shit about neurosciences, but I truly hope that the man didn't feel anything, and that it was basically just sleeping until the end. I also feel pretty bad for Walt as well. Trying to put my feet into the perspective of both sides (Walt and the civilians he engaged with), and honestly, the only thing I can really come up with is that, "Fuck, what a SHITTY situation...".

[@PikaPetey]

​@Jin from what I've been told from traumatic Brain injury patients. Part of you is just....Gone. pre-frontal cortex controls higher level thinking. So in the best case they are knocked out. In the worst case, they suffered a spiraling whirlwind of emotions and panic , unable to process or think through anything.

[@jmackmcneill]

Thank you, I wasn't clear on whether the guy was supposed to be alive or not, and if alive, why they were not trying to do something. It wasn't obvious to me that there was a wound in the eye, it just looked like bruising.

[@wawawuu1514]

@@PikaPetey That's some 40k shit. Horrible.

[@brandonsmith2299]

@christiangoforth6694 LMFAO!!! WAS THIS A FUCKING SUICIDE BOMBER OR JUST AN UNLUCKY BASTARD?!?!? No one explains shit about the god damn car! Didn’t see the movie but if it wasn’t a suicide bomber this whole scene probably could have been scrapped.. I think we all know the pressures of war yadda yadda yadda.. come on people…

[@m45ked77]

If y’all have never seen the series and are trying to figure out the one gunner is wearing a motorcycle helmet. He didn’t put his strap on while driving. Shit got intense as in a firefight. They hit a bump and he lost his helmet. So... higher ranks got pissed that he lost military hardware so they made him wear the cheep shitty motorcycle helmet instead

[@thehellyousay]

Drool.

[@brooksysdead]

They didn't make him wear it.. He picked it up himself and spray painted it.. Sixta basically told him he lost it so now he's fucked cause he's not getting new kevlar so homeboy made due worth what he could find💁

[@FireOccator]

Should have put his strap on.

[@GhostChild808]

Guessing they played PUBG? XD jk

[@jerryg1964]

He lost his helmet going over a berm not in a firefight

[@CynicEidolon]

The subtle conveyance of "we are designed to kill, not babysit" and the terror that comes over them when they again realize it is great in this scene.

[@edgarcuencabarragan2973]

That look after he had after he fired those shots and the look in his eyes with that stare I don’t how you could emulate or copy something like that, and the way he spoke when he said that they kept coming. I love this show so much.

[@billlam7756]

He probably thought hell just a few round down range, nobody gonna get hurt but then...bullseye lol

[@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272]

@@billlam7756 nah it's probably more like he didn't know what to think, if your ever in a high stress situation you know that your brain isn't just sitting there working normally.

[@Snugggg]

@@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 he was also really really sleep deprived. Like when you have those little micro-sleeps for a few seconds but with your eyes open and you snap out of it and can't remember / believe what just happened. An example- driving home at 3am after working 3 back to back shifts. suddenly snapping to and I'm on the wrong side of the road. how did I get here? where am I? what am I doing? I imagine its the same kind of thing but instead with a gun in your hand and load of extra stress on top.

[@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272]

@@Snugggg Right!

[@unthenner5519]

You just have to imagine it 🤷‍♂️. Not that hard.

[@gtaraya]

the thousand yards stare

[@MichaelDelvalle-nt4gp]

@Michael Moretti they are trained to be killers. marines arent supposed to be acting as police in a shitty 3rd world country. its the higher ups fault for making these elite warriors do a job they arent made for

[@fatdoodle4039]

@Michael Moretti Car bombs are a thing, they can decimate entire blocks depending on what they have packing.

[@LSPD1909]

@Michael Moretti obviously the message behind this series is lost on you, POG.

[@DarkestKnight2424]

@Michael Moretti ah Another one who doesnt understand a single thing

[@00zero11b]

@Michael Moretti ever watched a car bomb explode?...then walked around the carnage? I have. Not something i would take the chance of seeing again. Id shoot one person to save a hundred....wrong or right call. Its not something i would ever wanna see again. If you had that experience you would understand.

[@TheRealCacaHead]

If you’ve ever shot a 249 from the crouching position you know his accuracy is unbelievable

[@Bytional]

Walt was crouching and using bipod, the real deal in this show is Trombley，fired 2 brusts with his 249 from a vehicle moving in uneven terrain, hit some kids on a camel back 200 yards away.

[@unthenner5519]

It's not real

[@thewanderingjew8233]

@@unthenner5519 pretty sure this show tries to be as accurate as to what actually went down as possible like i think i read somewhere 70% of the dialogue is accurate

[@LordVader1094]

@@unthenner5519 It's accurate to what was stated to have happened irl

[@magnusthered4973]

@@unthenner5519 this is not but this actually happened

[@5p33dy305]

You can't help but feel bad for Walt. Hasn't slept, stressed out, and he's only a kid that was scared because the car wouldn't stop and was moving erratically. Credit to the actor for really capturing how the real guy actually felt here. Thousand yard stare, visibly shaken and looks as if he's on the verge of tears. All my respect to infantrymen.

[@tomaszstefaniuk9449]

I feel bad for the Innocent one killed!

[@JunHector]

@@tomaszstefaniuk9449 As is everyone.

[@GigaChadh976]

@@tomaszstefaniuk9449 why? He kept approaching the armed men. He was too stupid to live

[@pokiloki7772]

@@GigaChadh976 💀

[@tbiggart1]

The worst thing you can do to elite troops is make them police. They are trained to stop the enemy, to kill. Asking them to separate civilians from insurgents is just begging for trouble.

[@stengoa5496]

Not so elite then

[@Dakurar]

Would you ask a fireman to wire buildings?

[@stengoa5496]

Are you tough?

[@thehavoccompany-a3]

Clearly you think you are. Keyword: "think"

[@stengoa5496]

Nah I'm definitely not.

[@spookrockcity]

Why didn't he shoot the car out of the insurgent's hand

[@bloodraven1190]

Fucking lmao.

[@Orion-gw7kg]

nice

[@zacknagel827]

Gold

[@EliFarb]

@Mr Rhodesian it's a joke lol

[@steffanclarke3496]

@Mr Rhodesian r/whooosh

[@speedyretreat]

Man, Brad had to switch gears from furious to dealing with Walt's mental status real quick. I don't really think that's a skill you can learn. Just something a guy like Brad has inside.

[@isaacdepaula2103]

I love the conduct of Sgt Iceman, 100% professional

[@jaysenkov1574]

One thing that never gets mentioned is how earlier in the show Walt was telling Ray how Trombley fired "2 bursts maybe 7 rounds" out of his lmg and hit "exactly what he was aiming at." Walt does the exact same thing here. 2 bursts, 7 rounds, and nails the guy in the head.

[@thomaspowell7468]

Yeah but the car is was closer for Walt. Trombly nailed targets at like 2-300 meters away.

[@ChrisStavros]

@@thomaspowell7468 Hit by LMG at 2 meters, sheeeeit

[@satanicmicrochipv5656]

​@@ChrisStavros That'll leave a mark.

[@johnxina8268]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Pawel Szajda's acting and camera work? 1:56 has to be one of the best thousand yard stare I've seen on media.

[@cay5teach]

Such a well said line. You could show a random person his face as he said "The car kept coming" and they would know exactly what he was feeling and have a pretty good guess as to what happened.

[@gabeslist]

Came back to this scene after reading it in the book. When they rolled up to the car (blue in the book) the man was still alive in a vegetative state. Doc attempted to mercy kill the man while driving by but missed. When the battalion physician saw the man he gave him morphine but left him in the town with RCT 1. With no hospital the man who was unarmed and unclaimed died.

[@brandonsmith2299]

In my opinion this is a waste of footage.. probably even more of a boring ass movie, book with pointless crap like this going.. So the guy capped an unlucky bastard.. happened all the time… Kids and woman too.. it’s war.. wars hell Scene from full metal jacket: “Do you shoot woman and children” Gunner: “sometimes.” Reporter: “how!?!” Gunner: “easy! You don’t lead them as much!!… ain’t war he’ll?” Not this crap.

[@OllaniusPius-e8e]

​@brandonsmith2299 because Generation Kill is based on real life? War isn't always hell in the sense of death and carnage, it's also hell in the sense of "hurry up and wait".

[@yourtoastershandemover2211]

Some of the creepiest scenes of shows like this are the ominously quiet ones. After he fired that short burst there was hardly any talking other than a few lines, and the looks on their faces add to the unsettling feel of how quiet a bunch of Marines are being.

[@Ed-tc2pg]

When you're trained us as soldiers and expected us to behave like police in a situation where folks had a tendency to bomb and kill us, you're asking for trouble. Don't use a broadsword if you need a scalpel. Congress and high ranking military failed the grunts on the ground. On a personal note to add insult to injury, we made dam sure the area my guys controlled was safe or else. Well now that area is controlled by Isis, is far from safe, opec is still a mess and oil is still expensive as hell, so what was the point?

[@BGSGBF]

You were there to keep the oil expensive (and price controlled). Look how ISIS was selling Syrian oil to Turkey for 12$/barrel. Nobody wants it there, where democracy is being defined...

[@Ed-tc2pg]

BGSGBF my guess was more toward ensuring folks keep the US dollar and not revert to the gold standard. Either way it wasn't because politicians are trying to make the world a better place by eliminating suffering and spread in freedom like they kept telling us every five seconds.

[@LoydAvenheart]

Well one of the first things Saddam did while in charge was... nationalize the oil industry. Meaning no oil flowing into foreign markets, just being used for Iraq purposes. Guessing Uncle Sam didn't like that, I mean out of all the despotic regimes in the world we chose that one. It's not like NK doesn't exist or Indonesia, Saudis (trade with US), Burma, Singapore on and on. They had no WMDS, no proof of WMDS. Not even a smidgen of evidence. In-fact they later said they their where in fact no WMDS. I doubt it was out of the goodness of their hearts that the Bush administration declared war, it was money. Plain and simple, keep the oil flowing it's the life blood of countries and empires alike these days.

[@IndyAnnProductions]

why is there always some fucking idiot suffering from tiny dick syndrome in the comment section of videos like this? stfu, jackass

[@IndyAnnProductions]

@@BGSGBF he was never "there"

[@ethanhiggins4887]

1: Smoke, Flares, Lights, Horns 2: Warning shots 3: Disabling ahora (Tires, engine) 4: Kill shots EDIT: Still getting hella replies on this comment. The original distances I referenced were from a US Marine Corps manual written during the early 2000's. Regardless, point still stands that depending on the roe of the AO, kill shots are often not permitted unless your life is in danger. Also, in reference to VBIED's and their kill range. Often times you can spot them based on the stance of the vehicle, the drivers attitude, and how the vehicle is driving.

[@inkedseahear]

They were informed there might be suicide bombers using cars, anything close like that could still threaten the marines

[@ethanhiggins4887]

Doesn’t matter it’s still ROE that must be followed. Also 50 meters is a pretty good buffer if there is hard cover. If not then kill shots may want to be used sooner. However they had the Vic as hard cover and there was no reason why ROE shouldn’t have been followed other than the rapid and stressful situation causing such a reaction

[@JoroJugga]

Have to say it depends on a car incoming. If it is a van loaded with explosives, danger zone is 300 yards without some serious cover.

[@KRT049]

Fuck the rules of engagement. there are no true rules in war, only to win. and the whole roe bs is costing everyone money and lives.

[@Max-nu1bd]

KRT049 It's easy to say fuck ROE's when nothing happens, but if shit did occur and you went with your instinct rather than ROE, at the end of the day it's your ass being tried, and that is the main enforcer behind ROE's

[@fudalefu1]

What a powerful scene. At first you think, as Colbert thinks “wtf are you doing?!”, and you’re blaming the shooter for making the obvious wrong decision. But the look at the shooters face instantly showing regret and confusion, and his words “they kept coming”. And it takes a moment for Colbert and us to understand, and ask him if he’s alright. It’s that fog of war. That confusion. And then you have the other type of marines in the scene who those young kids who are just so desensitized to war and death. This show was incredible. It was so much more than a military show. It was an in-depth philosophical study of war and soldiers. I wish more people give it a chance in the future. But I’m sure the show just looks like a military action show, with young degenerate, foul mouthed soldiers to most people.

[@Holret]

there were 20 of those guys in there, they knew the ROE. That kid showed a lack of discipline, ultimately he killed innocent people.

[@GigaChadh976]

@@Holretno, the moron driver showed he was too stupid to live.

[@arthurrubio5129]

This was the one time Walt screwed up in the series. Sergeant Colbert was mostly angry because he was grooming Walt as his replacement and did not expect him to do something that stupid.

[@tideatmilehigh2727]

To say it was "stupid" I think is a bit harsh, tragic and unfortunate are better words. Stupid implies Walt was negligent and careless, and throughout the show he is the complete opposite of that. The show hints that Walt was extremely sleep deprived going into this scene. Being sleep deprived in some ways is like being intoxicated, your judgement and senses are impaired. You get anxious. And bear in mind these Marines had probably averaged maybe 2-4 hours of sleep peer day (most likely less) going into this situation.

[@LordVader1094]

It wasn't stupid, the vehicle kept coming. If it had explosives it could've taken soldiers out even at that distance. Walt made the right decision.

[@abrahamm1325]

@@LordVader1094 I dont know how this played out in real life, i doubt it was like how we see in this video but you are supposed to fire warning shots first but people make mistakes when they are sleep deprived and scared. Its never easy to make life and death decisions in a fraction of a second.

[@jeff3221]

Ok tbf the minute before this happened Brad and Fick were still debating what the warning shot policy was since Brad wanted to change it to smoke. Fick even said he didn't like it since there's bombers potentially moving on their position, reluctantly agreeing. If it had been a standard warning shot that Brad had fired then Walt would have been fine. They fire warning shots then shoot to kill, changing it to fire a warning grenade wait for the potential bombers to get closer, fire another warning shot, wait for them to get even closer and then shoot to kill is gonna confuse anyone who hasn't slept in 24hrs. We the audience weren't even told what the new orders were

[@abrahamm1325]

@@jeff3221 i was never in Irag but our orders were always fire a warning shot in the air, its loud and gets peoples attention. Definetly better than shooting a smoke grenade. This guy in my unit had a terrorist come at him with a knife and he fired a warning shot and it scared them so much they dropped the knife. But when you are looking at a potential car bomb threat realistically you only have a few seconds to decide before you get blown up

[@patrickgarland5264]

Great clip demonstrating the 'fog of war'

[@prsee5969]

My friend did that exact mistake and it played out the same. First time, car wouldn’t stop, ripped them with a SAW, and he knew he messed up. Everyone did. Nobody talked to him, he was just a confused mute, and his CO tapped his shoulder (after explaining the cluster f*ck that just happened over radio) and told him “that was amazing shooting. We have a job to do, take it easy for now” and I forget what happened but he didn’t fire another shot that day.

[@badfoody]

the man died fast. this is when the series got dark super fast

[@christiangoforth6694]

no, he didnt die fast. in actuality the bullet entered his eye socket, and deflected upwards blowing out his frontal cortex and lobotomizing him. it turned him into a vegetable and it took him 2-3 hours to actually die. the entire time he just sat in the car unable to do anything but breathe until he passed.

[@thomasbrady3827]

Wdym this is when it got dark. Didn’t a village get blown up like 2 episodes before

[@prointernetuser]

@@thomasbrady3827 it got dark ever since they turned away surrendering iraqis to be killed by a death squad the marines didn't kill cuz of some weird ROE.

[@pyllywaltteri]

the guy he shot actually stayd alive for a day..

[@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial]

Wot

[@idaho6533]

He died immediately.... The next day

[@naturesrevenge8758]

@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial Probably referring to the book this was made from. People don't die quick, it's excruciating and it takes its time. The biggest injustice movies have done is give people a false interpretation of what death is like, it's almost never quick and pretty.

[@notagamermoment3404]

@@naturesrevenge8758 it all depends of course. If you hit someone in the T box it's immediately night night for them

[@tidypog3272]

The guy was immediately brain dead but could have been kept alive forever in a hospital.

[@christophercolasurdo919]

“Your PTSD is not service related”

[@Inferno-hx7hk]

The driver wasn't killed instantly. The bullet went through his eye and out the top of his head paralysing him. The platoon wanted to try to get him to a hospital for treatment but permission was denied. The Marines then had to drive past him, with Walt sat in Trombley's seat just a few metres away and he couldn't look. The man took a day to die. Afterwards, Walt would sit in the Humvee with his SAW in his lap not even touching it. It's heartbreaking the stuff that everyone in that war had to go through.

[@chadwickmacarthur4760]

You see a group of soldiers you turn around lmao don't keep driving foward lol

[@Muham434]

Chad Carter it’s their country, they can drive whenever they want, they may have to be getting to a place while you have these idiots blocking the road, they probably would have driven up to them to ask them to get the fuck out of the way like any normal person

[@Muham434]

Bomullsträd that’s racist first of all, and secondly they never fired warning shots, they just fired straight at the car and killed him, what do you expect. If someone is occupying your country, you’re screwed. It’s sad how people think it’s okay to make fun of innocent people that are caught up between some stupid terrorist groups and the US military when they’re just trying to live in peace

[@Muham434]

Bomullsträd okay well you don’t know what the driver wanted to do. Don’t call a race of people dumb, it’s honestly racist. What happened to equality? At the end of the day they are civilians like us and don’t deserve to live a life like this while we sit here in luxury, yet people hate refugees. How about you put yourself in their shoes and try last a day in between a war.

[@demonjmh]

ExoticGamer its not racist they are facts the school system in the middle east is worthless they are poorly educated

[@spartan1010101]

if I drive to my job and there's a road block, I start slowing down, they shoot a smoke grenade at me, I turn the fuck around. These soldiers were doing their job, the trigger happy one made a mistake. However, as a civilian in a known war zone you have to know that driving up to anyone with a gun, local or foreign is a god damn risk you take upon yourself. I don't care what country you think you're in, guns pointed at you and shots fired means get the fuck away because death is a universal condition.

[@mikebrase5161]

I was a first responder to three separate car bombings in Baghdad killing and wounding over 200 people. That's what my PTSD issues are over. Nothing like stepping out of your Humvee and stepping on the side of someone's face after it had been peeled of by the blast. Good times!

[@tinycockjock1967]

Mike Brase Shit man.. that’s rough to hear. Is it getting better though? I know that kind of stuff stays with you for life but most cases do eventually reach that “acceptance” level of grief. I hope I don’t need to say this too man and I don’t want to generalize all veterans but please man, if you feel depressed, or even suicidal (Knock on wood), please tell your mates or family. They deserve to know and they can help you. Last question is: How did it feel coming back to the world after your service?

[@mikebrase5161]

@@tinycockjock1967 I'm a Graveyard worker getting ready for bed I'll give you a detailed answer tonight on my break. Good questions I need to take the time to answer them properly.

[@tinycockjock1967]

Mike Brase Thanks my dude. Hope work will be a bit less boring today for you.

[@mikebrase5161]

@@tinycockjock1967 It always stays with me that's what I accept. For me the trigger is smell that sets off my Spydee senses. As far as depression goes I don't really have a problem with that. I have a young daughter who is my world and keeps me in a good mood. As far as coming back to the "World" well let's just say I hate people in general. They are fucking criminally clueless.

[@tinycockjock1967]

Mike Brase Yeah I get the feeling that veterans have this view on society as ungrateful little shits. And to a certain extent yeah we are, we don’t know the chaos that happens half a world away, and it never reaches us unless we have family or friends serving. You did serve to let us keep our way of life yes, and while I never served (Soon will get conscripted, Israel is like that) I think it’s better that the majority doesn’t have to live a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan and experience all those horrible things, let alone be in the role you were. I’m glad to hear you have a daughter, hopefully she’ll be successful and a valuable member of society. No doubt she already has an awesome dad who can teach her a lot about life. Not that I’m an expert but I’ve worked in a kindergarten and a school for a few months on breaks from school and I’ve seen that the kids who were most mature for their age were picked up by their dad sometimes and they came in uniform. One of them was even a Lt. Col.. Wonder what he did in his service. Thank you for sharing. I tend to go around asking veterans about their service, I’m not a journalist but I do want to get an insight to what life is like there where safety and mental stability isn’t a certainty.

[@soundwave9414]

Sergeant John M. Stryker (Sands of Iwo Jima): "A lot of guys make mistakes, I guess, but every one we make, a whole stack of chips goes with it. We make a mistake, and some guy don't walk away - forevermore, he don't walk away.

[@tunasandwich8049]

It's depressing to watch how Iceman slowly melts to a traumatized dude throughout the series the more collateral damage they muster up

[@aowi7280]

If the car had explosives in it, he would have gotten a medal. Its a fine line.

[@patrickgarland5264]

that dude playing Brad played fuckin' Meekus from Zoolander lmfao. Such a great actor

[@rickyray2794]

earth to meekus!

[@xczechr]

Orange mocha frappuccino!

[@douglasbeveridge1861]

he was also Commander Stone in the battleship movie

[@Cragified]

When the only tool you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail. Being tasked with a M.P. job but having none of the training and none of the kit and equipment and all you have are lethal weapons the end results was inevitable. One of the greatest travesties of Iraqi Freedom and the stress it put on the troops. There seemed to be no planning as to what to do once ground had been taken and how to police it unlike previous conflicts such as WWII.

[@patrick4662]

this ep was crazy. starts and ends with killing of civilians. and a huge firefight in the middle.

[@taylormartinez412]

Crazy how in the beginning they all have a morbid curiosity on seeing a dead person

[@notabot8581]

The silence in this scene makes it so much more compelling, like when the adrenaline kicks in and your mind just goes quiet…

[@alessandroofthemediterranean]

Me and the boys casually commiting war crimes.

[@evangiles4403]

They did not commit a war crime under military law you are only entitled to one warning " Stop where you are, get out the vehicle, hands in the air do not drop your hands or you will be fired on " by the time all that has been said you will know one way or the other

[@Fabzil]

And that, my friend, is how you recruit 5 new enemies in a split seconds.

[@rushikeshbhagat7327]

That was great acting by the guy playing walt

[@richunixunix3313]

Been there done that and I don't need to see it anymore

[@MattSmith-rr2he]

What a worthless war.

[@Katarinarabbit]

Matt Smith war is fought for a million reasons Cpt ack ack

[@HoiSourced]

Id have to disagree.

[@usarkarzts4207]

@@Katarinarabbit not this one. This was fought for fake reasons.

[@desty4030]

@@usarkarzts4207 you're stupid

[@BrandablezYT]

About as bad as Vietnam... I wish we spent less on Offense overseas and more on our economy to improve aspects of life.

[@ronscott7]

I love this show. I make a point to watch the whole series at least once or twice a year.

[@jackson857]

I'm so glad I got my Dad to watch this series!

[@SIXNINEONEFOUR]

"Nice shooting" lmfaoooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@grimreapper]

Is it just me or is that guys scope offset? Look at it as he's pulling it up into firing position. 1:33

[@pokersoldier1]

It does look like it might be a little crooked or the screws for it might be loose.

[@johnredcorn2476]

If it's like the CWS night sight we used, there's an adjustable eye cup that serves as the switch to turn the thing on and off so it's not constantly running and draining batteries. Looks like he has it rotated 90°

[@Scriptum_1]

The soldier with the bike helmet kills me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@brandonnorman6749]

They all go forward that's the most important thing

[@rumpwrangler1102]

I would say the 40 smoke was the warning shot, vehicle kept coming so the 249 had to end it’s advancements on his team

[@Subject__]

This is why we need MP there not Marines doing things like this i agree.

[@AlmaAndFriends-i9h]

Every unit might encounter fleeing civilians, not only MP.

[@seamusmcsorley7638]

Jesus Christ this scene is heart wrenching

[@burnedburrito]

those dudes were strapped as hell damn

[@THESIXTHEGG]

Yeah, I mean, they are Marines dude.

[@713bigounce]

What the fuck did you expect ? They're Marines lol

[@freshfrozen3035]

@@THESIXTHEGG that’s why they lose 🤣

[@sharki9876]

@@freshfrozen3035 who did they lose to? the war was won in weeks lol

[@AdmiralKhafre]

Walt's minutely-subtle helmet shaking @1:21. Holy shit his acting is on-point.

[@DickBanton]

Everybody's real shook up about it, except Trombley, because why would he be?

[@timmy6890]

Reminds me of a National Guard guy who lit up some car after hearing “hit it” from a police officer

[@NIGHTSTALKER0069]

Bad ass shot from the saw lol

[@ZapparoniWorks]

The point of this scene directly contrasts Trombley's shooting. The point is that war crimes merely happen, and the moral component is in the soldier's reaction, not in his action.

[@goodnightmusic-deepsleep4091]

For anyone wanting to know what book this series is based off of it's One Bullet Away:The Making of A Marine Officer by Nathaniel Fick.

[@alexh00]

No, it's based on the book 'Generation Kill'. The clue is in the name.

[@bamarine247]

It's based on both books. Funny, in the last episode Lt Fick and the reporter are both discussing the possibility of writing a book one day, something they both ended up doing.

[@TangFiend1]

Just finished it today, it's cool to get the LT's perspective on these events. The Generation Kill miniseries was a bit limited in scope. Fick's book gives you a more complete picture of the Battalion.

[@dfwai7589]

The nice thing is both books exist and give different perspectives on the war

[@italianmafiaman2237]

lmao its sort of both but its a memoir written by Evan Wright the reporter who went along on the deployment with the Marines

[@Unga_Bunga]

Brad learned from the last road block experience and tried to make this one right. And then this shit happens. I wonder what approach would he take the next time, if they were tasked with the same job again.

[@GTLandser]

The only thing missing from GK is the smells.

[@phoenixreborn3289]

When someone makes a mistake like that you have to take it easy on them first to let it sink in for them to understand what they did

[@oscarchan2624]

Having someone to actually explain to by the m24 guy was in trouble and why ROE is a thing kinda make the scene more meanful. Specially when it comes down to understand the pressure they are in

[@bloodraven1190]

So basically everything that was going on with the 249 Gunner who shot at the car. He had been awake for days and was not doing so good mentally, this is hinted at in multiple scenes before this event. Dumbed down, the Car was coming at them and not deviating from their course so the Marine shot at them, skipping a few steps of their current ROE which was most likely to only escalate force if directly threatened by the enemy. After he shot him you can clearly see he's fucking devastated from it because he most likely wasn't cool with the fact that he just shot and killed a civilian.

[@oscarchan2624]

@@bloodraven1190 co aided the fact I’m pretty sure no one is going to be ok shooting someone. In normal situation.

[@krokettenpanzer8030]

WARNSCHUSS! - Dolph Lundgren

[@marclayne9261]

'war crimes'...the only crime is war...and that's created by the political class, not soldiers.....charging soldiers w/ war crimes, is like handing out speeding tickets at Indy 500....retired US Army......1st Armored....

[@gilbo135]

Had to charge those damn nazis with something!

[@dylanabela4058]

"Barker wrote that Cortez pushed Abeer to the floor, lifted her dress, and tore off her underwear while she struggled. According to Cortez, Abeer “kept squirming and trying to keep her legs closed and saying stuff in Arabic,” as he and Barker took turns holding her down and raping her. Cortez testified that Abeer heard the gunshots in the room in which her parents and little sister were being held, causing her to scream and cry even more as she was being violently raped by the men. Green then emerged from the room saying, "I just killed them, all are dead". Green, who later said the crime was "awesome", then raped Abeer and shot her in the head several times. After the massacre, Barker poured petrol on Abeer and the soldiers set fire to the lower part of the girl's body, from her stomach down to her feet. Barker testified that the soldiers gave Spielman their bloodied clothes to burn and that he threw the AK-47 used to murder the family into a canal. They left to "celebrate" their crimes with a meal of chicken wings." Stop defending rapists. The US army raped and pillaged Iraq in direct violation of international law and without a UN mandate.

[@MrSapper21]

we were told not to fire "warning shots" when i was there.

[@jacksonwells2902]

MrSapper21 We still are.

[@brooksysdead]

Yeah i was under the impression that if you fire your weapon it Better be at a solid target or you're getting questioned

[@منوعاتكرارالجابري]

قثةارىااغ2ققق٣٤

[@lorastra6975]

@Jordan Simeone Go and be a troll someone else boomer.

[@Gotobar]

Jordan Simeone Damn, I didn’t think i’d see another dumbfuck for another few comments but here you are

[@MohamedBouhaouche-o8t]

One millions victimes in irak this is freedoom of America

[@PiceaSitchensis]

Nothing to see here, just some war crimes in an illegal and unjust war.

[@DavidGarcia-em6hk]

They always try to make Trombley feel bad for doing his job but when things get laxed they love to have a guy like that around. The problem was not that Trombley was not good at his job or the other Marines were soft it was that the new reporters were there the whole time. It is very hard to do your job and keep presence when their were reporters from several outlets with you the whole time and anything you did while in country followed you like a bad shadow.

[@ihavenoidea3311]

Nothing touched the trigger but the devils right hand ey?

[@yurdi_yuri]

I know I'm two years late but God damn, what a reference!

[@ihavenoidea3311]

@@yurdi_yuri I’m still here

[@yurdi_yuri]

@@ihavenoidea3311 Ohhh let's gooo.

[@alecstewart8084]

they act like it’s culture shock, i know when i see tanks & soldiers i drive at them

[@michaelperussina2835]

What brad doesn’t know is that was a test by them to see if you’ll wait to shoot the next one that has vbied

[@bloodraven1190]

That makes a lot of fucking sense actually.

[@tomclewes3783]

Whys this coming up in my feed all off a sudden?? Dam thankfull for ive never seen it before dont know whether be greatfull or upset 😂

[@yomaster12345]

This is why patrols should carry road spikes so when they hold an area they can set them up without having to worry about a car coming at them

[@futureblue49]

A car doesn't stop just because the tires go out. Not to mention, even if the cars actually do stop dead in their tracks when the tires pop. Now you have a road filling up with cars that can't move. Meaning that's a ton of man hours and resources that will be wasted having to move them. And what if one of those cars has a bomb in it? Now those Marines have to come out of a defensive position into the open and get up close to a potential car bomb. Shut up and leave the military tactics to the military.

[@Blacksherman20]

The man isn't wrong jackass. Any sane civilian would stop at the sight of road spikes, especially when armed grunts are behind it waving them off. So, spikes do serve another purpose, and that is DETERRENCE. Anyone who doesn't do a quick U-turn after seeing the spikes should be considered a possible threat and subject to a hail of gunfire. So why don't you shut up too you self-righteous fuck.

[@futureblue49]

The idiot coming to the defense of someone you don't even know, but I'm the self-righteous one? And guess what. The military does use road spikes but they are only ever used in military bases and never in combat. "Any sane civilian would stop at the sight of road spikes" That is assuming that all civilians know what every version of road spikes look like. Which do think is more recognizable to every person in the world? Every version and variation of road spikes or a road block of armed soldiers? Here was a road block of Marines armed to the teeth and that still didn't stop them. Yet you seem to think they are going to put focus on looking at the road looking for road spikes that may or may not even be there. I would love to see that scenario. "Well Ahkmid, I was going to drive towards that giant road block of armed Marines that could clearly kill us if they think we are a threat but they have road spikes. And Allah knows how much more we fear road spikes rather than a giant road block of armed Marines that could clearly kill us if they think we are a threat." Does that reasoning sound stupid, yea because it is.

[@danielashworth5281]

Blacksherman20 Apply your logic outside of and echo chamber. Patrols move. Therefore, they cannot set up spikes because that would be a hindrance to their mission, which is to patrol an area, then withdraw.

[@slyceoflife2646]

Blacksherman20 so a road spikes are more of a deterrent than "armed grunts". ...oooooh puny guns is bad but road spikes too scary! oooooh... Are you dumb. It's costly to keep on removing and place down the spikes, leaving soldiers open to be shot at. IEDs can be placed at regular choke points at these open soldiers. You've never been to war so you can shut up. I haven't, but common sense can clearly make up this comment.

[@BloodlessJG]

Why was u.s in Iraqi again ?

[@3Dusers]

damn, with an aim like that. tyres couldve been shot. but i dont blame him with the stress of war going on

[@grahamlopez6202]

A car can keep rolling with flat tires. Can't keep rolling if the guy driving cant press the pedal because he's dead

[@pwprochazka]

stupid comment - shoot the tires. That what people who don't know shit about shit say.

[@Snugggg]

Walt was really really sleep deprived after more than 24 hrs without sleep. Hot, exhausted, stressed. Like a micro-sleep with your eyes open for a few seconds when you drive tried and snap out of it and suddenly you're in the next lane but don't remember how you got there. except in this case it was a SAW instead of a steering wheel and he pulled the trigger instead of changing lanes. (don't drive tired)

[@flukeman022]

1:42 why was his night vision on?

[@FLJuJitsu]

Smoke round. A lot of times people will get freaked out by the smoke and they'll stop or just GTFO

[@RK-gv7rc]

excuse me, im the keyboard warrior here not you. it was a Smoke round. A lot of times people will get freaked out by the smoke and they'll stop or just GTFO.

[@sgtmonkeypirate]

@@RK-gv7rc what

[@RK-gv7rc]

@@sgtmonkeypirate you heard me, you little shit. Why, ive been on countless tours and got over 300 confirmed kills with smoke rounds. Alot of times people will get freaked out by the smoke and they'll stop or just GTFO.

[@jasong9774]

The importance of communication. Ambiguity and assumption can be deadly.

[@Coyote-wm5op]

Sure are a lot of experts in the comments on vehicle checkpoints during a time of war while cities are erupting with violence including vehicles with suicide bombers but miraculously have never been in the situation.

[@Fulcrox]

They literally reprimented him on the same series lmao Because he Skipped the Marine manual about engagement, the Warning shot is obligatory, not an option, the car was slow enough to do so, Walt was too physically and mentally tired to be put on that situation

[@RaikoTechnologies]

Keep in mind that none of them was drafted to this war, but volunteered. Only drafted soldiers have the right to be POW's.

[@LanzeGames]

I would have set up double barricades, about 30m apart from each other. If a car runs over the first barricade, then you know they come with hostile intentions.

[@01Ezio]

If you got enough time, sure.

[@AndrewB221]

It’s YOUR responsibility for YOUR safety in strategic scenarios? But damn well, you can’t just jump up and engage? There’s boundaries

[@rainavellano3948]

When friendly fire is on

[@kirra9152]

More accurately called collateral damage.

[@Diego-lt4wm]

1:19 Good old military, celebrating civ deaths

[@عہلأء-ه6ض]

🤣🤣🤣✌ويبقا العراق

[@ابووهيبالدليمي]

اي غير زلم الفلوجه بجتهم

[@tidypog3272]

What are you guys talking about

[@عہلأء-ه6ض]

@@ابووهيبالدليمي 😒 تاريخكم أسود الفلوجة إرهاب

[@tidypog3272]

@@Hox624 I'm sad too

[@mikkelnpetersen]

Few things are worse for soldiers than having to deal with civilians in a foreign country.

[@tovarishchdoge3915]

This is why we have the National Guard, Marines arent trained to deal with civilians like this.

[@MyShuffleBOT]

TovarishchDoge duh no soldier should be police, marines are a weapon.

[@jacksonwells2902]

They are trained to deal with civilians. I’m not sure if you are aware, but the people in the Middle East have a tendency to blow shit up, especially by driving cars straight towards a convoy. IED deaths have plummeted due to military personnel taking action like this, the people in the Middle East know better at this point so if they are that ballsy to drive towards a convoy like that, bomber or not, they have a death wish.

[@Rams4life94]

The National Guards job is first and foremost.... To Guard the Nation. Literally. Respond to natural disasters and defend against an attack on America. In pressing times they will be deployed.

[@alexh4398]

@@Rams4life94 the guard is deployed year round, have been since early 2ks more than ever. Support roles mostly, but lots of infantry/mp/cav going into combat zones. 28th ID in PA was around for the invasion of iraq.

[@Rams4life94]

@@alexh4398 I know that. My stepfather was NG and went to Iraq in 2005-2006 with the 42nd ID. That doesn't mean that their main mission isn't to actually defend the nation when the regular military cannot.

[@nonameuno9394]

In reality its because you were lied to about why you were being sent there. And these youngsters believed it.

[@musicwarrior7630]

I love all these arm chair generals trying to lay blame on a marine who made a call that he was a danger to his unit, you weren't there, you weren't holding the gun... So what ever you say has as much value and weight as a dog's turd

[@PonkeyPoe]

Just to clarify - In order to earn the privilege of having an opinion on the slaying of a civilian, you need to be the one pulling the trigger? How does that work?

[@l.h.9747]

So you need to kill someone to be able to tell its shit. Nice logic

[@andrewyang8987]

anyone know the size of the pasgt helmet cover on walt's helmet?

[@MD_Films]

Medium. Medium sized helmet = medium sized cover.

[@taylorbennion3706]

What a strange question

[@주력전차야타간]

Continues to drive directly into an armed check point manned by entire platoon even after recieving a warning by a smoke... I don't think he made such a good choice there.

[@Mugdorna]

폰 에튜와르트게르드 오토 비스마르크 Some countries have very evident military and the population are used to their presence. I grew up in a heavily militarized area and don’t react very much to SWAT or armed officers. My wife (from elsewhere) gets uncomfortable in the presence of armed police.

[@jamesgoldring1052]

Even if they did have murderous bloodthirsty thoughts, they aren't going to ever publically state that

[@lslice5283]

Sometimes when you join a killing machine that is designed for invasion and mass murdering, you shouldn’t insult and make your teammates feel bad for shooting someone,

[@assasindroid9128]

You don't talk shit, you gotta acknowledge that you just killed a civilian. The jokes and shit talk are a coping mechanism. You see it that entire time, its just here that someone was real messed up over it

[@pantera29palms]

LOL, rockin NVG’s during daytime…

[@patwiggins6969]

So what is the driver thinking? Does he know the rules of engagement?

[@agentc7020]

Ah yes rules of engagement in a country that can’t even speak English :/

[@jasperzanovich2504]

He probably thought something like this: I need to drive through this road. There is a military checkpoint on the road. I guess now I have to go through a military checkpoint.