This planet is where armies go to die

[@weldonwin]

The only way to really take Coruscant is the same way you would take Trantor or Holy Terra: You don't even TRY to invade the planet itself. Your best option is to destroy any guarding fleets and orbital defences, then use your own fleet to blockade the planet, then you just wait. All these planets have vast populations, that require the importing of truly vast quantities of food and water from offworld. Without those regular shipments, the population quickly starts to starve and these leads to civil anarchy. You just park yourself in orbit and watch, as the planet below starts to eat itself alive and all you have to do is offer to restart the shipments of food, if they would just surrender. The thing that makes Coruscant, Trantor and Holy Terra so impossible to invade and occupy, is also the thing that will make them most vulnerable.

[@JustAnotherTrollbot]

... until a couple thousand ISDs show up to break your blockade...

[@pancakes8670]

​@@JustAnotherTrollbotWell if someone's doing a blockade you would assume they thought about that happening

[@CtisGaming]

Yeah, a city planet would require a seige, but the size of the garrison and industry they could bring to bare, even against an orbital foe would be terrifying. These worlds are truly the hearts of galactic empires and campaign goals unto themselves, so beseiging one directly forces a mass confrontation around it.

[@Grizabeebles]

I believe the real world average for an occupation garrison is 1 soldier for every 40 civillians. Couruscant would require a garrison of hundreds of billions if not trillions just to hold part of it.

[@techpriestsalok8119]

I mean, that assumes they can’t recycle food efficiently enough to feed their population. That isn’t even always the case in WH40k, much less Star Wars. Yeah eating nutrient paste with a side of recovered water probably sucks but it’ll keep you alive. Though how long they can keep that up really depends on how deep the biomass storage is and how much they are willing to recycle.

[@Ugapiku]

Generation Tech has the same addiction to Coruscant as me... 10/10

[@pancakes8670]

It's a cool planet

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

Generation Tech makes videos all about star wars lore, ships, armies, hidden worlds, and strategies. Meanwhile Star Wars theory has now made his 100th acolyte video this month..........I know who I'd rather watch.

[@Ugapiku]

@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id Nr. 1 🤓 Nr. 2 stop lying and being retarded, thx!

[@indianajones4321]

Thought it was gonna be about Malachor, but Coruscant also works

[@OrionInSpace]

Another passionate Star Wars video… love to see it I only wish some other creators would take notes.

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

Nahhh theyre too busy making 100 acolyte videos in 3 days..............

[@OrionInSpace]

@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id I’m really glad that you and me are on the same page here with this because man do I hate that right now😂

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

@@OrionInSpace Alan is on the same page with all of us. We need a break from the culture war no matter what side we're on. This is where we go for peak Star Wars content.

[@OrionInSpace]

@@FernandoMartinez-pv1id I agree I’d rather be watching GT’s videos right now then the garbage that SWT is doing

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

@@OrionInSpace I finally watched the Acolyte to see just how bad it could possibly be aaannnnndddddd its average. It seems that all the complainers focus on is the politics of 1 actress and 1 director (even though the other actors have the exact same politics as them) and they complain that Jedi are portrayed as corrupt and incompetent in the HIGH REPUBLIC ERA, and dont like one 3 second scene about pronouns that made no sense. The story has issues but it mostly adds up in the end. What's funny is the same people who criticize Star Wars (the Christian ones) for showing the corrupt and incompetent side of the Jedi have no issue pointing out the corruption of the Catholic Church and disagreeing with the Pope. Every organization in history has a corruption issue. Especially one as old as the Jedi Order.

[@ColonelStan]

Thank you for keeping your channel about Star Wars and only Star Wars, not any of the drama in Star Wars.

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

@@ColonelStan Star Wars Theory will never get a subscription from me again.

[@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935]

​@@FernandoMartinez-pv1idYou fell fir the propaganda mate, Star wars explained an the other paided SW channels where jealous of his quick growth and where desperate to replicate it but failed. Now they reveal the snakes they are.

[@FernandoMartinez-pv1id]

@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 propoganda? Out of the last 40 videos he's made, 30 of them are about the Acolyte and its annoying as hell. Star Wars Explained was more entertaining than him. Theory was becoming more involved with the culture war and I didnt care causd I was suler involved for a lomg time and figured as long as he made other good videos there wasnt much harm but now its "acolyte this and acolyte that" and I cant stand it anymore. Alan is my go to now and the Acolyte videos he made were very good and even got me interested in a sequel. That'll never hapoen now and I dont really care too much but the obsession with The Acolyte is only feuling Disney to do even more. Hate watchers make them a lot of money.

[@StatikKillers]

Dunno what you mean man, the galactic civil war is pretty dramatic and I don't want him to stop talking about that!

[@spartantraveler7251]

I don't think Vitiate's Sith really took over the whole Coruscant. Just the Temple, Palpatine and the area around it with the fleet holding position near. I don't think they really have the forces to do more than that since Balmorra and more planets need holding and forces need to be in other places to not arouse suspicion of an attack. Also not meaning to be rude but it's Naga Sadow not Naga Shadow.

[@lucjanssen3567]

Temple, Palpatine and the area around it good one

[@ChristoffRevan]

Lol you're trying to correct his spelling/pronunciation but you misspelled "Palatine" as "Palpatine" lmao 🤣

[@spartantraveler7251]

@@ChristoffRevan huh? Palpatine is the Senate is he not? No offense but are you dyslexic?

[@mreggs3731]

@@ChristoffRevan bro you misspelled The Senate with Palatine, you were WAYYY off

[@aaroncabatingan5238]

IRL, cities tend to degrade an attacker's combat power over time. An ecumenopolis like Coruscant would destroy an invasion force just by its sheer size alone. Remember that Coruscant has several levels below down as well. So orbital bombardment won't even work.

[@WellPreserved404]

Orbital bombardment would be difficult but I feel it definitely could via collapsing the levels over time, it could be a little cascade

[@YoLo-bb2vc]

youd be there for a long time yes but an orbital bombardment would work you just have to make sure the substructure of the planet collapses in on itself from the weight of debris above it and so you win. you do not need to cap Coruscant you just need to make it as uninhabitable as possible then once 90% of the life there is dead send in your salvage teams for all that awesome resource to rebuild the fleet losses and maybe over time make it bigger and more imposing lol

[@Grizabeebles]

So what you guys are saying is to pull a Shinra and go down 20 or 30 levels and destroy enough key supports that the weight of all the floors above falling just crushes everything.

[@YoLo-bb2vc]

@@Grizabeebles pretty much

[@JohnLevi-t1w]

Even a massive Warhammer 40k invading Ork force like the ones that attacked Armageddon under Ghazghkull's command and organization wouldn't nearly be enough for this kind of urban fighting in the long run. The lower cities would be a death trap for even Blood Axes. You would actively need trillions constantly to contest the lower city levels as they rise up against the invaders. And that's a whirlpool of resources and manpower to keep on committing to even for Orks against a fast to react Star Wars Expanded Universe where communication networks and hyperspace is simply far better then the Imperium's most of the time.

[@FriendsWeMade]

The real army devouring world was the friends we made along the way

[@robertnelson9599]

Or that planet with all the space zombies on it.

[@sampilcher7196]

Sometimes, a question has two right answers

[@toastie8173]

@@sampilcher7196 Two halves cant make a whole without a hole

[@weldonwin]

@@robertnelson9599 Or Catachan, the planet where an invasion of literal Demons got eaten alive by the plants

[@linguineluigi9787]

sounds like my friends

[@WiglafWienerDog]

5:24 I miss the aurebesh to English translation

[@aadubs6739]

You absolutely rock dude!

[@Zartren]

If Coruscant, like Trantor, depends on the incessant influx of food and resources from the very numerous worlds of the Republic, what would happen if Coruscant was simply sieged and blockaded? How long would it take for the population to run out of food and basic necessities, pushing them to surrender?

[@bostonrailfan2427]

bingo…this is how you normally take cities with strong defenses

[@eight-cloudspurple5871]

There are many billions of beings in Courscant, they can lasta long time with just cannibalism alone. Wait, is eating different species even considered cannibalism?

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@eight-cloudspurple5871 …technically no, but it’s probably frowned upon since they’re sentient beings

[@crowgaming2137]

As stated in the X-Wing series by Ackbar, it would take months at least. Stockpiles are present, and if you are the Empire, just refuse to give food to the non-human population. Plenty of time for a relief fleet to arrive. Storming the planet is more likely to be succesful unless you have total domination of every inch of airspace, blockade runners are a thing

[@invaliduser6431]

This was actually done once, in a way. In legends material, Grand Admiral Thrawn famously caused Coruscant to blockade itself for months with no long term stationing of a siege force (cloaked asteroids left in various decaying orbits). This allowed him to rampage elsewhere in the Galaxy. Quite frankly, had his bodyguard not assassinated him, my money would be on Thrawn reconstituting a resurgent Empire.

[@janwitts2688]

Coruscant should have had a militia of over 5 billion.. not counting lesser security forces.. it would therefore be almost impossible to invade successfully.. this is covered in properly scaled games like traveller, where high population systems can only be bypassed, blockaded or glassed..

[@Grizabeebles]

During wartime, nations on Earth can mobilize up to 50% of the male population or 30% of the total population to fight for up to about 4 years. Of these, 20th century motorized logistics allows about 10% of these forces to be used as front-line combat troops, with the rest being occupied simply moving supplies to the front, relaying messages and doing the necessary organization amd administration. Historically, a successful garrison for a military occupation requires 1 soldier for every 40 civillians. Modern police forces on Earth range from about 1 in 160 to 1 in 320. If Couruscant has a population of 20 trillion, an invader during wartime would be looking at having to fight *150 billion* police, and *6 trillion* regular soldiers. And then, even assuming a successful invasion and the ability to wothstand the economic drain of supplying the planet with reasources, they would need to maintain a *permanent* garrison of 500 billion soldiers for decades just to hold the planet against a 'normal' level of insurgency. Reminder, earth's entire population is 8 billion.

[@janwitts2688]

@Grizabeebles Exactly.. even just taking standing combat troops and not police or any raised due to war.. there would be so many defenders that even 1000 lucrehulk wouldn't be able to deploy enough droids to do anything meaningful... its all quite ridiculous.. and of course places like the capital would have vast numbers of elite troops and static defences...not just a few guys and unguarded corridors.. and that's not even considering how many millions of turbo laser batteries would likely be set in these defences to destroy larger vessels. Etc etc etc...

[@Grizabeebles]

@@janwitts2688 -- It all just goes to highlight how armies in Star Wars are actually tiny relative to planetary populations in general. And how restrained even the evil armies are with the weapons available to them. I can believe the First Order just abducted millions of children from settled planets in the Unknown Regions. I can believe that there are enough mercenaries and armed civillian ships to topple the Empire twice. What I *can't* believe is that the Ruusan Reformation *lasted 1000 years.*

[@HolyknightVader999]

That doesn't matter if the enemy can just bombard that militia from the sky, so as to reduce their numbers so that they can be ''manageable''. Darth Malak, for instance, will not bother invading Coruscant had his fleet gotten there. They'd just glass the planet from space.

[@JohnLevi-t1w]

@@Grizabeebles Yep these logistic number sound like something GW should actually understand more often for the massive planetary wars that go on in heavily populated planets like Armageddon which has a planetary population of 500 billion.

[@BillWood2791]

Great video. Your stuff is always really knowledgeable and I love it. My one question about this video is this... was that mic placement on purpose? At a quick glance the pink sock gives it a NSFW rating.

[@dogloversrule8476]

The biggest strength & weakness of Coruscant is its massive population.

[@TerrenceChilds-xz3xu]

Way to go I can't wait to hear about another video please

[@ihn-90]

Unless you are darth malgus or general grievous you do not want to attack coruscant

[@matroid10]

So glad to see that Alan is in the skyscraper level of coruscant must have taken a lot of hard work (or selling spice?!?)

[@bostonrailfan2427]

he has strong connections, the senator from Naboo took a strong interest in him for some reason 😎

[@k1sfd1974]

Finally made it to level 5127. He might even get a little tan now. 😎

[@GrimDoesMineCraft]

Pretty sure he attained his wealth from involvement in the underground Ewok meat trade

[@bostonrailfan2427]

@@GrimDoesMineCraft Ewoks selling the meat or Ewoks sold as meat? 😳

[@GrimDoesMineCraft]

@@bostonrailfan2427 sorry bro definitely the latter 😂 the upper echelons of Coruscant have developed an expensive taste for exotic meats

[@krzosu]

You don't invade planets like corrusant - you flatten them via orbital bombardment.

[@dangerbeans9639]

One thing I don't see talked about a lot is that what makes Coruscant so strategically significant is also what makes it so hard to defend. Coruscant is a massive trade nexus, connected to at least nine separate hyperplanes and who knows how many others. There's just so many avenues of attack--even Thrawn was able to launch a surprise attack on the planet--that short of defending the planet itself there's no way to realistically block every way into the system.

[@billyholland5156]

Another thing on Naga Sadow's force illusions? those were able to kill people for real (i.e. your body believes you die when struck so you in fact do so). The ancient sith could raise entire armies worth of dead, destroy fortresses and armies with waves of darkness, use dark side rituals and relics to cause supernovas and project galactic-wide battle meditation. maybe this didn't always translate into one-on-one combat, but far more useful to turn the tide of battles and wars.

[@galacticfirefly6060]

Yeah, Valkorion said it too in SWTOR: 'The Player': None of this is real!' Valkorion: Illusions can kill. People see Rituals and superweapons as a kind of Cheat Code. And you usually see it in Versus Series like 'Vitiate versus Palpatine'. But hey, whatever it takes to kill your enemies, Murder has no rules.

[@Brickmovestudio]

The thumbnail looks like the police coming to fine couruacant for going over the maximum occupancy.

[@bostonrailfan2427]

you’re not wrong!

[@Psub950]

Please make a video on 200 FO Stormtroopers vs 200 Clone Troopers

[@invaliduser6431]

I cannot believe you didn't mention the only adversary who did Coruscant right. Grand Admiral Thrawn. Rather than spending his army invading and capturing the planet, he raided the orbital space above the planet and released dozens of cloaked asteroids, taking the time to pretend to eject dozens more they didn't have. Thrawn then retreated. The defenders thought they had successfully repelled an invasion, but Thrawn was 2 steps ahead of them. Once the first few asteroids came down and blew up massive chunks of the surface, Coruscant was forced to put up their planetary shield. They then reviewed footage from the battle and came to the conclusion there were potentially hundreds of cloaked asteroids. This trapped everyone and everything on the surface of Coruscant until they could find all the Asteroids. And, as they were looking for dozens that weren't even there, this pretty much sidelined Coruscant for ages. Which was Thrawn's intent in the first place as he focused on other targets of opportunity. Thrawn was the only one who realized you either sidelined or razed Coruscant; you didn't capture it.

[@invaliduser6431]

That said, the video was otherwise excellent. Moreso sad at a missed opportunity, not disappointed with your efforts, to be clear.

[@RegentOfGreece]

Although you give an excellent explanation, and a fair amount of evidence to Thrawn... Legends doesn't count, haha. But still, you make good points.

[@papapalps2415]

​​@@invaliduser6431'b-b-but, my wank character is the ONLY ONE who did it right, thooo???' - Literally less than a few months after the blueberry died the Empire got its shit together and took Coruscant in a straight fight Lmfao.

[@invaliduser6431]

@@RegentOfGreece Granted, but the Yuuzhan Vong invasion of Coruscant is legends too, and was still included in the video, so I'm assuming it's fair game.

[@invaliduser6431]

@@papapalps2415 I sincerely hope you have a great day.

[@heidisparklebottom]

Love that you mentioned the NJO series, those were the ones I grew up with as well

[@GGBlaster]

Coruscant has a lot going for it: a large territorial buffer, a labyrinthian ecumenopolis, a (likely underreported) population that dwarfs any organic military to date, enough value (economic, political, strategic, etc.) to prompt constant military protection, and the plot armor of every major character in the entire galaxy.

[@Xis-ql5pj]

Another excellent dissertation, Professor

[@TimAumuller]

Very well spoken in and cool music too.

[@thebaronlouis8619]

There is no "H" in Naga Sadow.

[@matthewjay660]

I was looking for this comment. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@formes2388]

The problem with about every assault is: Conquering Victors lose protracted wars. And taking over a Eucomonopolis is a protracted war that needs to be fought in an ideological context. What you would need is 20-30000 capital ships, 100000 destroyer type vessels, several million bombers/fighter craft, and millions of static defence platforms to scatter. But that's not all of it - that's the small part of what you need. And I'm not talking man power. Taking the defence fleet out: Easy. Go in guns blazing, by the time anyone knows whats going on half of it is destroyed, it retreats - you blow up defence platforms, planetary shields go to full strength and now: We have problems. But the problem is a waiting game, and it comes with one message "We will wait, until your shields come down. Then we will dictate terms.". After a good long wait - you simply state "Your people must be hungry - we have food. If people are injured, or need medical treatment - we have supplies and personal willing to help. Lower your shield, and we will dictate terms". This is when you start bombarding the shield. Odds are those in power will wait. But most of the history of the republic - the fleet and ability you showed up with basically dwarfs them. And it shouldn't be your only capability - you should have reserve forces. Once the shield is down - you move to a debilitating strike against the remaining shipyards, banking sector, and senate district. And you blow that stuff up regardless of if the senate has fled or not: It MUST go. And then, you bring a new message: "The poor have been taxed, and regulated into poverty and destitution - your dignity MUST be restored. Those at the top have benefited unduely, enriched themselves, through the suffering of people - it must end. We will provide aid, assistance, repair tools, and mobile support tools for air scrubbing, sanitation, and more." Realistically, resistance will have spiked at this point - but, we move building, by building. The other side of this - smugglers should be basically given a path to get people off the planet. The ultra wealthy should go - pay a fortune to do it. The key, is to ensure people aren't cramming themselves a thousand at a time into a ship that supports 10. By supporting the average people with aid - by basically limiting the chance that star fighters and the like will crash into civilian - especially poor civilian areas - you command a dominating position. You have a very powerful position. And when the finances of the entire war effort are leaked - people will realize: You prepared more value in aid packages, and more thought into the problems of coruscants poor people then you did on the invasion. You put more thought into the current problems, and if other avenues were feasible - with notes of "likely to require bribing officials" and "Regulations make doing this impossible at a reasonable cost" clearly noted. Word will spread. It's likely that within a year - most resistance will give up. It's likely you can negotiate with the Jedi and outline the goals, and objectives and go "Why are you acting as judicial enforcers of a political class that suppresses people, instead of standing for truth, justice and the balance of all things?". Taking coruscant through sheer force: Impossible. Taking it by turning the very people of the planet against the existing leadership, and defence structures? That is where it is at. When you turn 1/2 the populace (likely around there), into a threat against the current leadership, and have the force to strip the leadership of power: You have won, before you begin. But the key - for the long term - is to be genuine about the aid, turn the nations massive industry into accelerating this. Improve food, shelter, and other standards of living.

[@dannylo5875]

True and couldn't be said better.

[@dagdamor1]

Imagine trying to invade Zonama Sekot though You land with the first wave and the planet just immediately starts hitting your force with natural disasters

[@silverbloodborne9495]

Like the tyrinids and chaos fleets invading catachan Nids got devoured by the local wildlife and the chaos fleets also got eaten by the wildlife and the local guard didn't even notice

[@miindthegaap]

I like that you acknowledge how deadly the enemies of the Grimm dark universe of 40k are. For the emperor.

[@WOLFxINFINITY]

Coruscant is like taking Russia in the game of RISK. Really tempting in terms of benefits but impossible to hold.

[@literalsarcasm1830]

Nice to see some Riddick love

[@nobodyknows9937]

Nihilus could have had a wonderful thanksgiving dinner if he went there

[@crowgaming2137]

Forgot the 'successful' invasions by the New Republic/Galactic Alliance, both the counter invasion against the Vong, where they won through massive force and handy Jedi, as well as the one where Rogue Squadron used the sun to break the shields by evaporating a water reservoir and making a giant ass storm which, combined with a few well-placed missiles into a statue of Palpy boi, overloaded the shields. yes, the forces on planet were intentionally weakened by Iceheart to further her Kyrtos plans, but it happened way too early for her.

[@bramster181]

Damn the new chapter intro is clean.

[@willadeefriesland5107]

"Oh wise, and wonderful Alan of the Star Wars lore", during the earlier part of this video, I was thinking about how to ask if you thought the Yuuzhan Vong invasion was the most effective. THEN, you surpassed yourself and included them already! Could we get a video with a more in depth history of them, their culture, and the effects on the resultant Galactic Alliance?...

[@justincameron9661]

I hereby propose that we give emergency powers to the supreme chancellor allen

[@TheThunderguardian]

I love how you say "korriban" not "morriban".

[@jx6135]

Finally, someone fully explains The Great Hyperspace War, the very war gave Yavin those beautiful buildings

[@dawall3732]

The Yuuzan Vong Unleashed a bio weapon on that city world that will forever be attempting to conquer it from the inside out through terraforming the planet into a death world.

[@Arkancide]

The Orks from Warhammer 40k would be a perfect army for taking Coruscant. Tyranids too, but I hate them so I try not to consider that scenario. Plus, the Orks would continue to be a threat even if you beat their initial invasion. Feral Orks streaming from the sewers and ventilation shafts within a few years! Forever!

[@OverlordMaldeus]

Fun fact: The Yuuzhan Vong had a lot of overlap with the Tyranids of the early-to-mid 90s. It's not clear how intentional it was, but the similarities are pretty strong, right down to being a void in the Warp/Force, a detail specific enough as to suggest there was intentional copy/pasta going on. Funny enough, around the same time the first Yuuzhan Vong books were coming out was also when StarCraft released. StarCraft's Zerg were based on Tyranids, but had a much more alien appearance, and apparently Games Workshop liked that version better, because the 3e Tyranids just a few years later have a much more Zerg-like appearance. So within a few years of the Yuuzhan Vong aping the Tyranids' appearance, the Tyranids started migrating away from it to follow another, more successful Tyranid knock-off.

[@GoranXII]

@@OverlordMaldeus And, or course, The Tyranids were almost certainly based on the Arachnids/'Bugs' from Robert Heinlein's _Starship Troopers_ .

[@TheEventHorizon909]

You did forget the Rebel/New Republic invasion of coruscant which is one of two proper invasions (and one raid) that actually succeeded in taking coruscant alongside the Vong Invasion and the Sacking of Coruscant. Tho in that case the populace of Coruscant was actually on the side of the invaders so it wasn’t nearly as hard but still probably counts

[@GoranXII]

Having the population on side was almost certainly the key to the New Republic victory.

[@papapalps2415]

There's no real proof the Courscanti population was on the NR's side politically at that point (and infact, they likely weren't), nor are those the only times it has been taken (it was also retaken by the Empire shortly before Dark Empire/Operation Shadow Hand).

[@GoranXII]

@@papapalps2415 At least a portion of them celebrated the death of Emperor Palpatine, as we saw at the end of the special edition of _RotJ_ , so even if the population wasn't universally supportive of the NR, a significant portion of it was.

[@papapalps2415]

@@GoranXII They weren't celebrating Palpatine's death specifically; we know Palpatine was regarded extremely fondly by most of the Core Worlds, to the point of being regarded as a demi-god for years after ROTJ. The Empire, as a whole, was well liked at best, and was just the same-old at worst, to most of the Core; it was extremely well under control and treated with a velvet glove, with many worlds being turned into Mussiloni-ifed 'luxury liner' worlds. And besides of which, even all that aside, disliking the Empire is not synonymous with wanting the New Republic to take power.

[@GoranXII]

@@papapalps2415 And yet, it was shown at the end of _RotJ_ that people on Coruscant were celebrating, and given that it lines up with evenything else, yes, thewy were celebrating the death of the Emperor. Also, the Empire might have been popular in the core _before_ the destruction of Alderaan (well, apart from all those worlds, like Chandrila, who supported the Alliance), but after it? Yeah, that rather tarnished the Empire's reputation.

[@lordMartiya]

Grievous' invasion also had another trick: billions of Separatist sympathizers and people pissed with the Shock Troopers rising up during the attack and dividing the defenders' attention.

[@silverbloodborne9495]

I would love to a short film of a shock trooper in barca amror holding the line against the cis Captain fordo

[@JohnLevi-t1w]

I wonder how well a very large Ork Waaagh the size or maybe bigger then Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka's armada of over 5 million Ork manned ships where orks composed of all different clans capable of supporting the Ork warmachine with their special traits, skill sets, and specializations would do in trying to take over the ecumenopolis worlds of the galactic core while being led by a competent and very experience cunning warboss who has strategy and understanding of the importance of Ork logistics while both he and his war cabinet of mega nobz are in the process of entering the Prime Ork stage. They would have some pretty good resources and manpower for the beginning of such a daring and massive offensive operation against the Core worlds. They would probably need the bare minimum of 400 trillion and likely extra more hundreds of trillions of Orks to actually hold the inner core systems for grinding years due to majority of their ground force commanders and foot soldiers having very blunt hyper aggression. Which no doubt will make them public enemy number one for everyone to unite against in a united front and deal with tons of lower city militia uprisings in the dozens of trillions. Not that the Orks would mind too much as it brings in the krumpin and lootin. They may actually succeed in taking the planetary surface and the upper parts of the Lower Cities before they leave behind a garrison of Orks behind who have contructed ork tribe cities to continue the fighting while they head off to assault other worlds though those left behind ork garrisons are going to be dealing a very angry planetary population full of civil unrest. Some Ork clans like the Blood Axes and Deathskulls maybe better at raiding the lower level floors of the deeper lower cities but they will be short handed on manpower and heavily outnumbered. Spores are good and all to keep up reinforcements but I don't know how the spores are going to really thrive on a ecumenopolis planet where other then some parks there is mostly metal and concrete everywhere and not alot of soil and dirt to launch on. That's going to be a problem for the garrison orks to solve in logistics and manpower shortages in the long run.

[@MercenaryPen]

since Legends was brought up, I'm surprised that the fall of Coruscant during the Dark Empire crisis wasn't mentioned

[@alex52043]

The entire setup to the Great Hyperspace War really does sound like the jedi and Republic were planning an invasion.

[@lucky_shot8331]

Can you do a vid about all of palpatine poor decisions or the major ones in general during his reign of the empire and how it screwed the empire over leading to its collapse? Love your vids man

[@weeg2141]

So much lore could be made of the underworld levels

[@isaackim7675]

You should do a video about the creatures of Mandalore

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

Coruscant's scale is absolutely colossal. You'd have to conscript most of an ecumenopolis' population in order to stand any chance.

[@spaceengineeringempire4086]

Not really just secure the surface and cut off food and water supplies. Then say (surrender your sector and go back to normal life and we will reactivate your sectors utilities) since many sectors need materials from the surface trade networks it’s kinda easy if you know how.

[@scottahermann]

Naw, just a blockade and redirect asteroids to impact the surface.

[@spaceengineeringempire4086]

@@scottahermann negative you want the world intact. Limiting damage would limit the luckily hood of a vengeful culture being created to destroy you. So limit your bombardments to military targets. Blockade the world but show that you’re willing to let supplies through to sectors that surrender. This way you gain support of the people and make those who are fighting you be seen as the true enemies by the people.

[@Blackfatrat]

​@@spaceengineeringempire4086i mean honestly. If you're evil and you already have an empire strong enough to take out the fleet protecting coruscant, you might be better of just destroying coruscant and leaving it in ruins, too expensive to capture in tact.

[@Grizabeebles]

If an invader can do what the British Empire did and co-opt the local institutions in order to have the populace essentially occupy and oppress *itself,* conquering Couruscant is theoretically possible. However, adding somewhere between tens of trillions and a quadrillion sentients to your nation/empire poses a substantial risk of Couruscant absorbing *YOU* economically, culturally and politically rather than the other way around.

[@bear-7020]

nice video

[@headhunter1541]

Virus bomb: I'm gonna do what's called a pro-gammer move

[@lukea1533]

Mixed species population: Nuh uh.

[@headhunter1541]

@@lukea1533 Phosphex: Are you sure about that?

[@wiccapriestess]

You forgot the Sacking of Coruscant during the Old Republic when the Sith Empire lead by Darth Angral and Malgus invaded the planet of Coruscant and forced the Treaty of Coruscant to be made

[@paulybassman7311]

Hey Alan 😊 you should do Morgan Freeman Reviews: the Ships, the species of Star Wars. Best wishes.😁🇬🇧

[@paulybassman7311]

Do 2 minute shorts but put them on this channel as well.

[@gabesisneros136]

Would be interesting for a scenario since u mentioned Warhammer, for tyrnaids to invade the world with all the stages that comes with a invasion. Because that could maybe do it, but i could still see the planet winning

[@BayaRae]

Darth Malak knows how to deal with ecumenopolises.

[@darktrooper7591]

The Sith Empire managed to invade the plant with ease and taking out the Jedi temple in the process

[@smartass0124]

If Count Duku death was necessary Lose . Wonder grievous wondered what if im next. Did he even ask who he was working for

[@Wintermute909]

I think scale was something George Lucas really struggled with. Both the extreme scale of people, planets and space and also the extreme scale of time. Fans and non-film writers have worked wonders making it all make sense!

[@0_Body]

Imagine the Avengers movie where New York gets invaded and the Avengers fail but Loki loses cause he can't handle the New Yorkers.

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

Coruscant, the jewel of the center.

[@dennisd4452]

Thx Allen for the Ryan Macbeth channel recommendation. That guy is one educated dude. The video of Are Haitians eating pets was great. Everyone should spend 15 minutes on the truth going on in Springfield Ohio.

[@nathanieljackson5554]

Coruscant being virtually impossible to conquer makes since. Even if they somehow got through the planetary defenses. You would need a ground army that outnumbered the citizens of the planet. And considering how many factions make their home their. It could potentially rally the entire galaxy to defend it.

[@TheWarmachine375]

Reminds me of Ego the Living Planet.

[@biglawngnome]

This was a cool departure from your regular topics, love it🎉

[@a-5699]

Allan, what is that sticking up between your right arm and the glass?

[@Jurassiccanonking]

“If we’d still had an empire, this wouldn’t have happened.”Somebody probably after the destruction of Coruscant

[@Hello-bi1pm]

What about Darth Krayt?

[@andrewsowl8696]

They would have been able to stay… if a Skywalker didn’t go super sayan lol

[@Haamre]

Hey, @GenerationTech - wasn't the Empress Teta system named after the then-ruler during the Great Hyperspace War, AFTER the war? 🤔

[@jsross33]

So basically you need a Reman thalaron weapon.

[@Vistico93]

Was there something in the Yuuzhan Vong story that explains why they invaded Coruscant to terraform it when the Star Wars galaxy is full of lightly inhabited planets upon which they could create a new homeworld before marauding across the galaxy?

[@invaliduser6431]

They found technology abhorrent, so Coruscant was an abomination. It was more about wiping the heresy of Coruscant away than establishing their own ecosystem.

[@dovafett145]

Not even the infinite empire could fully control the planet.

[@The7thFleet]

Oooo new kind of editing

[@kyub3y467]

"A place where armies go to die" 40k Imperial Guard: "Alright, bet."

[@saintjamesent.866]

❤❤❤

[@mrsamaritan6881]

You know, the name "Great Hyperspace War" implies the existance of a "Minor Hyperspace War".

[@frantictoast3741]

I was so excited for you to talk about Abeloth and the Lost Tribe but alas 😞 twas not to be.

[@askog1900]

If you ever get bored of making Star Wars content, your video format would work great with warhammer 40k. You have free will and can do what you want

[@cybernomad5971]

Courasant be eating good I guess.

[@pyeitme508]

Yeah, till use Death Star like superweapon(s) to destroy Coruscant. :P

[@earnestbrown6524]

That would be my plan.

[@skoshman1]

A reminder that Coruscant is not likely to be self sufficient for food for Coruscant eating up armies might be far more literal than implied. In some areas of the under-cities, a meal is meal even in peacetime.

[@kurskfirebrand4494]

The yuzzhan vong and the dark eldar would take notes from each other

[@shoresean1237]

In Marvel's lore, there was a planet (1970, Fantastic Four) called Gigantus, this being a huge freaking planet, supposedly with stars in its orbit. The conquerors of a race called Eternals (not those ones, Kirby had actually left Marvel to do New Gods et al at DC) and this super-conqueror race coveted it and went all-out, only to run into the Coruscant problem you describe - so they blew it the hell up, which they came to regret. A mere fraction of the Gigantus residents survived, but the fleet size was more Warhammer than Marvel, and they came down on the attackers till they were wiped out, save for an amalgam-being. Point is, while planets this large and packed can basically only exist in fiction, once established, they cannot be taken and held. and blowing it up only makes things worse. While losing Hosnian Prime in TFA was a blow, I wonder if losing the ineffective leadership didn't boost the heroes' chances in the long run. Marvel BTW has retconned that old story ten ways to Sunday in the 50 years since it was made, with many 70's cosmic stories being too grandiose for their own sustainability.

[@smartass0124]

What if the rebels managed to take the death Star

[@dogloversrule8476]

In the Star Wars Infinities comics, Yoda crashes the Death Star into the Imperial Palace on Coruscant

[@3L_B4R7O]

Nice

[@Heidao623]

Attacking Coruscant, is like trying to attack Terra in WH40K You don't It is a multi-layered cake, each layer a labyrinth of highways and chokepoints, where each engagement is not only fighting whole armies hiding in them but also the entire population on those floors. Then, the further you go, you run into the various monstrosities hiding in the deep dark

[@sundragon7703]

Maybe it is cartoon physics at work, it is an engineering feat for the lower levels of Coruscant were not crushed by the weight of tens of thousands of feet of newer levels of buildings constructed on the old. Planners normally don't think of accommodating hundreds if not thousands of years of future construction. In addition, medium to large warships land on the newest level of buildings without the levels collapsing from the weight of a let's say an Acclamator size ship.

[@darthmeta6445]

I'm surprised that you didn't touch on how the Sith Empire managed to conquer and hold onto Coruscant during the Great Galactic War as a bargaining chip. At least somebody managed to take the planet, though they didn't really try to hold onto it for long, so this might have been the same case as the rest of these attempts to subjugate the planet.

[@merikano2985]

Makes you wonder What If the First Order used it's Star Killer Base on Coruscant. If you're going to piss off the galaxy no matter what, take out its most defended planet.

[@jamoecw]

Coruscant is one reason Star Wars tends to have bad writers. The planet is one giant city, so if it was treated as a city then it would not be that tough to defeat. Storming a city ends up with room to room fighting, which is costly. This is why if you don't have to take the city you lay siege and starve them out. Cities don't grow their own food and are not self sufficient. Every 'scary' faction failed to treat the planet as it was.

[@sargon6000]

Thumbnail looks like Mr. Shadow from The Fifth Element, which did destroy a small fleet group.

[@zacablaster]

Not gonna lie, I prefer Generation Allen hosted by Tech XD

[@thestanleys3657]

Would be easier to lay siege for a few years as I'd assume they inport most resources like food etc

[@walter274]

Yeah Star By Star was dark. It's a great book.

[@peterkallend5012]

So... important life lesson. If you don't want to be caught with your pants down, don't wear pants in the first place. 😂😂😂

[@Ciangottino]

Vitiate didn’t occupy Coruscant because he was secretly building the eternal empire, he didn’t destroy the republic because he didn’t even care

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

I think mace windu even believed that the C.I.S. didn't have enough droids to occupy coruscant.

[@NicholasSasse-t1z]

These are a lot like the battle of Stalingrad, the blitz and the repeated Japanese attempts to destory the American Carrier Force. It heavily depleted key manpower and made them unable to wage effective war