For all those wondering about where the info on the warhead comes from, you can find it in the DS9 technical manual pages 132 to 134. A lot of this info comes from the technical manual, some may say that isn't "cannon" because it hasn't appeared on screen. That may be the case, but this video is just a bit of fun and is about "little known features" so we have dug in to info that doesn't appear on screen.
@vorshack89685 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the non-clickbait title. A lot of other channels would use something like "10 things YOU DIDN'T KNOW about Star Trek".
@wojtekszmajdowicz8435 жыл бұрын
I've just browsed through all known MSD of the Defiant and warhead thing just doesn't seems possible. There are no bulkheads to close in that area, no torpedoes (as you mention) neither.....
@t3h51d3w1nd3r5 жыл бұрын
any chance of looking at ships from stargate? the Daedalus and Apollo are bad ass and they have some nice aliens ships
I like it!!! The overall idea, in theory, is that deployment of said "warhead" would end the conflict, then Defiant itself would become an impulse capable lifeboat, a waiting a two or rescue from larger combatants. In theory, a Galaxy/Sovereign class ship could even store the module in its largest cargo bay, partially assembled, to be assembled in space, and then reattached. I like it, make it so DS9 technical manual!!!
@KabukeeJo5 жыл бұрын
No, the defiant does not carry self replicating mines as a normal weapon. Those were just used when they mined the wormhole. It is not a standard included feature on the Defiant class Star Ships.
@drakeprinc5 жыл бұрын
Correct they where invented by Rom specifically for the wormhole.
@guardiantree88795 жыл бұрын
True, but I am wondering if the defiant was able to lay down those mines after that, they would of come in handy a lot in the last season.
@pitui19875 жыл бұрын
Guardian Tree I doubt they came built-in. From the way the mines were deployed two at a time, it would make sense if O’Brien disembarked the four shuttlepods and filled their launch bays with mine racks specifically for that mission.
@suntzu20725 жыл бұрын
Was just about to post the same comment
@TheBamaChad-W4CHD5 жыл бұрын
Yeah if they would have been a feature then Rom really wouldn't have had to come up with the idea. It would have been done very early. Possibly well before the war started
@Willpower-742055 жыл бұрын
I loved watching all of the Defiant's battle scenes. She may have been designed to fight the Borg, but seeing her blow away those Jem'Hadar attack ships thrills me every time.
@patrickfrost94055 жыл бұрын
The Defiant is the meanest thing that the Federation has made -- it is basically a space honey badger.
@sparrowlt5 жыл бұрын
its the closest thing they have to a real destroyer concept.. a ship that trades off armour and size for speed and maneovrability while still boating big firepower.. Only that the Defiant also has strong armour for its size
@DavidKnowles05 жыл бұрын
At least until we see the USS Prometheus, a vessel that could easily dispose of a romulan warbird.
@JW...-oj5iw5 жыл бұрын
sparrowJLT ... Read what you wrote. See if YOU can decipher it.
@johnrickard85125 жыл бұрын
@@DavidKnowles0 The Prometheus was a battlecruiser not a destroyer.
@AsbestosMuffins5 жыл бұрын
@@sparrowlt armor in star trek is all relative, photon torpedoes are in the 50-100 megaton range out of the box, and phasers are some kind of ultra high energy laser weapon, so at best you dodge their torpedoes and loose a few plates of armor before withdrawing. even future startrek tech isn't gonna withstand 100 megatons worth of bomb in your face and by ds9 and voyager good ol photons were out and quantum bombs were in which were orders of magnitude more potent
@astrobot40175 жыл бұрын
Tough little ship.
@karlsmith25705 жыл бұрын
Astro Bot "Little?"
@JRGProjects5 жыл бұрын
You do know how to fire phasers?
@jhmcd25 жыл бұрын
Little?
@zoppie5 жыл бұрын
Worf: *dirty look*
@ChefDansHookah5 жыл бұрын
Little!?
@Sigilstone175 жыл бұрын
Greatly known fact about the Defiant is most of its power was derived directly from Benjamin Sisko.
@keithck37205 жыл бұрын
Ben Sisko's pimphand!
@InvisibleLightRec5 жыл бұрын
With emergency power taken mostly from Worf's Klingon Opera collection
@lukasperuzovic14295 жыл бұрын
@@keithck3720The Pimp hand that can roast a chicken, blow up a planet, star, or assassinate political figures. 40,000 years later the Adeptus mechanicus is struggling to figure with no success the Sisko Pimp hand slap.
@theoperumal51745 жыл бұрын
Raise the shields! Engage the Plot Armor!
@Marcus510905 жыл бұрын
Profit power
@sorak1855 жыл бұрын
Those mines weren't standard compliment, they were designed by Rom specifically to block the wormhole.
@shawn68605 жыл бұрын
Would not surprise me if they did become standard though. I recall Armada 2 having it as an option for the defiant class.
@lukasperuzovic14295 жыл бұрын
Ships were known to get partial modifications or even retrofits to add new features. They might not of been stock, but the Defiant had added those systems to the ship.
@shawn68605 жыл бұрын
@@lukasperuzovic1429 especially in times of war. The benifit of being a small ship.
@GenerationTech5 жыл бұрын
Correct, but there isn’t time to slow down the pace by describing the exact circumstances of those mines
@probablynotabigtoe94075 жыл бұрын
Generation Tech the point everyone is making is The mines were not a “Feature” of the Defiant...it merely deployed them. It’s okay to be wrong sometimes, you might just want to accept it.
@MandalorV75 жыл бұрын
The defiant is the A-10 of Star Fleet. It may not be the sleekest but boy does it have enough weapons to kick the carp out of mostly every.
@jasonskeans33275 жыл бұрын
To bad it doesn't have the brrrrrrt
@stephandolby5 жыл бұрын
@@jasonskeans3327 No, but it does have pew-pew. Close enough.
@Revenge_of_Ming5 жыл бұрын
that theory is a little fishy if you ask me!
@johnny5wd5675 жыл бұрын
@Jared HarrisThe Federation was perfectly capable of desiging its own cloaking devices, after having stolen one in TOS and then experimenting with an interphasic one (Pegasus incident). I'm sure some engineers will have worked with Rom on the mines as well. Cloaking torpedoes with a cloak as found on the Pegasus would have been quite lethal (just fly through matter then materialize inside). Never understood why they bothered with the Romulans despite the Treaty of Algernon. Use Klingon cloaking device instead. Or the amazing Pegasus one. Seemed more advanced than either. Then there was the cloak used on the transport ship in the ST Insurection film and the brilliant holographic one used in the video game ST Away Team, so yeah, plenty of options. Looking at this, the Federation was apparently far more capable of designing cloaking devices than the Romulans or the Klingons with the latter in my opinion actually being better than the original Romulan ones as shown in The Undiscovered Country - can fire while cloaked... That begs the question once again, except for Treaty stipulations, why didn't they just use their own or their ally's technology when they needed the cloaking device..
@dphorgan5 жыл бұрын
Good observation
@Shred_The_Weapon5 жыл бұрын
The section of this video concerning the stealth functionality of this ship serves (at least for me) to further magnify how appealing it was to the Maquis when the character of Lieutenant Thomas Riker and his cell commandeered it during the actual Defiant episode of DS9.
@roadside_fury26315 жыл бұрын
Actually the Bridge probably WAS Worf's karaoke room. He lived on the Defiant and liked to sing Klingon opera, so there you go.
@TheCaptainSplatter5 жыл бұрын
Since there is not much space, no pun intended, he probably did use the bridge as his Karaoke room.
@Mopsie5 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Eo_Tunun5 жыл бұрын
I can almost see him performing Celine Dion's My Heart Wil Go On there now.
@roadside_fury26315 жыл бұрын
@@Eo_Tunun You haven't heard "My Heart Will Go On" until you have heard it in the original Klingon.
@chazblank27175 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I’m sure the acoustics and the sound system on the bridge would be far superior to his bedroom. He claims he liked the more spartan accommodations on the the Defiant, but really the entire ship was basically his private apartment. Between the Klingon Operas and his and Dax’s private affairs, Worf was a very loud individual for how private he is.
@TheNetherwalker5 жыл бұрын
Engineer: So we have a stealth design. Even without cloak it is harder to detect than most ships. Starfleet: Paint it fucking white and put lights all over the outside.
@LeoH3L15 жыл бұрын
I doubt you'd need two people to operate the weapons systems, considering how much automation would be involved, it's more likely that it's SOP to have two up and running during combat so if one is knocked out or the operator suffers from exploding console syndrome the other can continue to operate.
@gregorygreenwood-nimmo49545 жыл бұрын
The Defiant was an important moment in Starfleet vessel design because it was one of the earliest dedicated warships produced by the Federation. It represented the moment when the Federation, and by extension Starfleet, finally faced up to the reality that using essentially civilian type vessels with heavily compromised designs intended to function as exploration and science vessels (and weirdly even floating communities complete with children) as well as combat craft just was not going to cut it in any really serious war. Admittedly, the shipwrights got a bit... over enthusiastic when arming such a small vessel, resulting in serious issues with its power production and distribution and generally over stressing some systems, but in later marks of the vessel's design those issues were ironed out, leaving Starfleet with exactly the kind of dedicated warship it so sorely needed. While it doubtless was an uncomfortable situation for the basically pacifist Federation to find itself in, this little ship probably represents the beginning of a trend in more militarised Starfleet vessel design that went on to guarantee the survival of the Federation, and with it its high ideals, into the future.
@CardboardSliver5 жыл бұрын
One can even say the Sovreign class was also somewhat military. Look at it's design compared to the Galaxy. The Galaxy was bright and cheerful. Plush and comfortable. The Sovvie was muted, drab, and armed to the teeth.
@Riceball015 жыл бұрын
Not to mention uncomfortable for its crew too. instead of luxurious single person/family quarters the Defiant class had bunks with several to a room that was probably smaller than smallest crew's quareters on the Enterprise D.
@richterman39625 жыл бұрын
It was star fleets first war ship or vessel in general built for combat/war, it was in a junkyard becauze starfleet doesn't agree with combat
@TheCaptainSplatter5 жыл бұрын
Which eventually completely changed the design of future ships. They became alien like eventually.
@MorphidX15 жыл бұрын
Hate to bust your bubble dudes. Defiant is not the class of ship, that is only it's name. It is, along with Soa Palo, (for which they renamed Defiant) a VALIANT class ship. I hate it when people don't know what they are talking about it, you are welcome for the info.
@nimbly16935 жыл бұрын
I would imagine the whole ship with all it's torpedoes and warp core crashing into the Borg would do considerably more damage than that little ramming thing.
@faytneris5 жыл бұрын
Same goes for that massive warhead. To fire that thing would not turn it into such a fast energy ball like the usual torpedos. It could be shot down or tractored away. It certainly is not made for battle use.
@burgerforcongress10012 жыл бұрын
I always assumed the "preparation" that Worf was about to order would have meant setting the self-destruct sequence to overload the Warp Core on impact & have everyone but the Captain, helm, & maybe chief engineer hit the escape pods. Then, everything changed when the Enterprise E dropped out of warp. Worf's best line ever, "If you were ANY other man, I would kill you where you stand!"
@cmtosh24095 жыл бұрын
“A successfull liftoff to orbital velocity is likely” NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS
@qdllc5 жыл бұрын
If you have impulse power, odds are pretty much 100%. If you're limited to thrusters, odds are likely 0%. Most ships are not "planetfall capable," and most starships have the ability to "beach" themselves as an emergency crash maneuver. The Intrepid class was designed to be able to land and lift off regularly. Ships with saucer sections could glide in and crash land. Defiant was designed to land as a whole ship, but given it's small size and compact construction, in theory, it could take off again. As it has no saucer section to detach as a lifeboat, giving it this option is just an aid to help the crew should the ship be damaged enough to be at risk of no longer being spaceworthy...an option to complete abandonment with limited supplies.
@matthew81535 жыл бұрын
cmtosh For Star Trek those are impecable odds.
@awclark35 жыл бұрын
Kirk," Scotty can we land?" Scotty," it never been done , but it's like could be done." Spock," the odds of landing and taking back off are 45%." Kirk," Great, that better odds then most my plans. Sulo land this sucker!"
@tareqn.gaming16225 жыл бұрын
@@qdllc don't forget to factor in gravitational pull. The strength of a gravitational pull depends on the planet's/object's size.
@Admiral8Q5 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't have to take off like an airplane or a jet-plane. Point the nose at the sky and use the impulse engines to take off like a rocket!
@deydraniadiancecht82985 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they still put explosives underneath the console panels.
@macrebel80685 жыл бұрын
yes it's a Starfleet must, we have to have it
@jasonboughen95425 жыл бұрын
And rocks
@ericm96864 жыл бұрын
If they didn't do that then the random characters that die in battles would always survive so the producers would have to pay them more money for being returning characters on the show.
@mostlymessingabout4 жыл бұрын
It's a jettison feature to protect the ship from the crews incompetence 🤣
@MonkeyDefenceForce4 жыл бұрын
What about rocks?
@imofage39475 жыл бұрын
@Generation Tech : Sorry British Ben, but it's more accurate to say that the Defiant produces Trilithium Resin as a waste product of her Warp Core. This fact was established in an earlier TNG episode.
@jetnova165 жыл бұрын
I M Ofage it’s not the first time he’s been wrong; he gets things wrong a lot and from being a Star Trek Author and doing in-depth research I’ve noticed it a lot and do a lot of correcting; not just to British Ben but to others here and elsewhere a lot. With all the things Star Trek that I know many people that know me call me a “Walking Star Trek Encyclopedia” because of it.
@GenerationTech5 жыл бұрын
true
@Z1gguratVert1go5 жыл бұрын
I think it's a running joke with the writers that in Star Trek trilithium is never handled or used or explained the same way twice. They are wildly inconsistent about what it is and what it does and where it comes from.
@imofage39475 жыл бұрын
@Z1gguratVert1go : I have to disagree with you. In Alpha canon, trilithium resin was first mentioned in TNG during the heist episode. It was described as/shown to be highly unstable, extremely explosive, highly valuable on the black market, and a waste product of the warp core. In DS9 "trilithium" was described as highly toxic and used similarly to a "dirty bomb". -In VOY, trilithium was used twice, both times as a high yield explosive (in the pilot and the time-displaced planet episode)- And in Generations, trilithium was shown to halt nuclear fusion reactions in a star. Even if you assume that "trilithium" is short for "trilithium resin", none of these properties or attributes are contradictory.
@Revenge_of_Ming5 жыл бұрын
@@imofage3947 in the pilot was it not tricobalt (tricobalt torpoedo) used to destroy the caretaker array?
@psylinx5 жыл бұрын
Yet another reason that the Defiant is my favorite Star Trek ship. Well, along with the Excelsior.
@andrewturner88244 жыл бұрын
......the Excelsior.......THE Excelsior......that bucket o' bolts???
@sithlord1155 жыл бұрын
The defiant is a pure capital ship killer and my favorite ship and sisko is my fav captain
@CardboardSliver5 жыл бұрын
They should have just called it the USS SISKO'S PIMPHAND
@jamienorris70785 жыл бұрын
And it doesn’t run on mushrooms
@casbot715 жыл бұрын
10. Landing and taking off. It *worked perfectly,* it's just the writers _forgot_ about it and kept using shuttles and transporters cause that's what all the standard Trek ships did.
@patrickfoxchild26085 жыл бұрын
They didn't forget, but the only time the defiant landed planetside was due to a crash caused by a temporal field surrounding a planet that Dax wanted to explore. Runabouts could land too, even if they didn't always.
@faytneris5 жыл бұрын
And since Voyager landed on they probably did not want to look like idea thieves. People are pretty picky over these things so better not do it after Voyager presented this special feature. ;)
@leesmith78835 жыл бұрын
Transporters were the best and quickest way from ship to surface and kept the ship in space where it would be able to manauverability in case of hostile action, plus it's sensors would work at optimal efficiency not being affected by a planets atmosphere, shuttles if transporters would be unsafe, the only time I would land a starships on a planet is if it were absolutely necessary, life and death kinda stuff.
@burgerforcongress10012 жыл бұрын
The original idea of the Transporter was created to avoid needing to generate visuals of shuttlecraft launching & landing, taking up effects budget & episode time.
@DUCKDUCKGOISMUCHBETTER5 жыл бұрын
"Great Scott! In the 24th century I'm sure that trilithium is available in every corner drugstore. But in the 23rd century, it's a little hard to come by. We had to make do with mere dilithium crystals."
@UAVwaffle5 жыл бұрын
You should do one were you design your own ship for a faction, or choose a ship and modify it to make it better.
@rsrt69105 жыл бұрын
I will choose the Battlestar Pegasus and modify it into... the Battlestar Pegasus. (Hard to find a way to improve on the Chuck Norris of starships).
@tareqn.gaming16225 жыл бұрын
I've made a warship in my head. I only now realise it's kind of a section 31 ship.
@twintailMedia5 жыл бұрын
a little known fact about the self replicating mines.. is that they werent actually part of the defiant. they were designed by rom, dax, and o'brien to counter the dominion convoys from the gamma quadrant, loaded up on the defiant when deployed and then never used again. also mines dont have any real offensive use as the defiant was a hit first kind of ship. However good video
@cheguevara195 жыл бұрын
Its not little known, its a sizeable plot point in the Dominion war story arc.
@twintailMedia5 жыл бұрын
@@cheguevara19 true however by the way Generation tech spoke of them he made it seem that they were "standard issue" to the defiant.
@cheguevara195 жыл бұрын
@@twintailMedia Which doesn't make it little known, just wrong. Everyone that's watched DS9 start to finish will known this.
@twintailMedia5 жыл бұрын
@@cheguevara19 tre "little known fact" was a mockary of the part of the video. as he started off that segment with "little known fact"
@Foebane725 жыл бұрын
I think Generation Tech cannot possibly appreciate that "stupid, dumb" Rom of all people could've come up with such an ingenious weapon.
@jwilder475 жыл бұрын
Trilithium is a byproduct of the warp core. They didn't carry it specifically to use as a weapon.
@lukasperuzovic14295 жыл бұрын
They had the facilities to actually process and use it instead of storing it up
@chrissonofpear13845 жыл бұрын
It's a transuranic element formed by corruption of dilithium, possibly. Can inhibit nuclear fusion, or poison atmospheres.
@leesmith78835 жыл бұрын
One thing all starships carried was a tricobalt device, which was an extremely powerful explosive device, it was used as part of the self destruct system, only 1 per ship and the captain had the ability using their codes to use it as a weapon, at least that's what I remember.
@julius-stark5 жыл бұрын
My favorite little known fact about the Defiant is that it's so badass.
@IronWarhorsesFun5 жыл бұрын
Or that the Maquis Borrowed it and took it for a joyride around the DMZ 😎
@AlphaRaptor2k65 жыл бұрын
@@IronWarhorsesFun Yeah, Impressive Weapons, lackluster security personnel typical Starfleet. They create awesome ships, then let them be stolen/sabotaged.
@IronWarhorsesFun5 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaRaptor2k6 REBEL ROCK!
@onen69425 жыл бұрын
Worst-kept secret in Starfleet, then.
@DavidKnowles05 жыл бұрын
The only mystery is why didn't the federation build a few hundred of them. This is a vessel that easily dispose of dominion fighters in the combat.
@permeus2nd5 жыл бұрын
This list is one of the reasons I love the Defiant it’s my favourite starfleet ship.
@seanmcgrath38265 жыл бұрын
Mine too!
@Th0ughtf0rce5 жыл бұрын
Makes tons more sense for the Defiant being able to land than Voyager
@Shadowkey3925 жыл бұрын
It should be pointed out that the mines weren’t standard issue, and weren’t normally among the Defiant’s weapons.
@Xsarahemni5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - If I remember correctly, it was Rom who came up with the original idea for cloaked self-replicating mines? Otherwise, why did they make a plot point out of it if it was going to be the default go-to answer? :P
@pjpless25 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. This is my favorite ship from the Star Trek series.
@edmundkonkolich87435 жыл бұрын
I already knew about all of these features/weapons (& more) after taking delivery of MY Defiant Class Warship & read the Owners Manual. 😉
@gicking38985 жыл бұрын
The Defiant is my favourite SF ship. I always pictured a fleet of 100 of them . Would defeat anything out there. Resources from 1 Galaxy class would make 20-25 Defiants, and can crew them too.
@TheABElia5 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh...to watch DS9 for the 1st time. If only I could go back.
@KamikazeSteve5 жыл бұрын
@sc2umsmaker It also gets shown on a channel called H&I (for Heroes & Icons) 6 nights a week along with all the other Star Trek shows (except for Discovery, of course). They don't show them on Saturday nights. We get that channel over broadcast so I'm not sure how widespread it is or if the schedule is even the same everywhere that does get it.
@Terminator4845 жыл бұрын
@sc2umsmaker DVD or Blu-Ray -- no subscriptions or high-speed internet needed, and no total-dependence on corporate cloud services that may or may not be cancelled someday at the whim of some greedy CEO.
@roberts37415 жыл бұрын
I'm experiencing that now. I never gave it a chance back when it was in first run syndication. It is an amazing show. I was too dumb to truly appreciate it back then.
@roberts37415 жыл бұрын
@@KamikazeSteve That's exactly how I got into it. But honestly it's going way too fast - I just got to part 2 of the episode where Rom laid the self replicating mines. After that ending with Dukat, I've decided to slow down and watch it via streaming. If that's possible.
@gerble365 жыл бұрын
I remember watching DS9 for the first time when it came out. I was insanely bored >_
@ss-oq9pc5 жыл бұрын
It's like some starfleet engineer said to himself. "I have idea, lets make the bridge very obvious so everyone will know exactly where they shoot target their weapons."
@steve1978ger5 жыл бұрын
"Worf's karaoke room". Damn, you had me there for a moment.
@hudsonball47025 жыл бұрын
AKA the Bridge.
@josiahbahuaud22945 жыл бұрын
@@hudsonball4702 The acoustics are favorable.
@Wastelander22814 жыл бұрын
I've been the biggest trek fan in the world (yes, the whole world) since I was 13. Just can't believe I didn't know about the front section being able to operate independently of the main ship!! Thanks, I guess I'm gonna have read more of the tech manuals.
@michaellinner77725 жыл бұрын
The detachable part of the ship was called the "Captain's Yacht" and was used for the captain to abandon ship at the very end. Also every federation ship could "theoretically" land on a planet if necessary.
@MNsLegoChannel3 жыл бұрын
yes...(coughs in Enterprise D saucer)
@TheWretchedOwl5 жыл бұрын
The defiant had trilithium resin onboard because it’s a dangerous byproduct found in all warp cores. The enterprise D had trilithium resin on it too, it just doesn’t come up in conversation in more than one episode.
@Armageist5 жыл бұрын
Remember when they had a Romulan Officer from the Ro ulan Empire stationed on the Defiant to operate the Cloaking Field for a couple episodes? I miss those days...
@ebee-uz1oz5 жыл бұрын
when i first saw First Contact and saw Defiant with its hull damaged, I had thought that was a hull hit, like seeing another starship getting hit, not ablative armor (all ships looked like that, even Defiant, when it was hit a second time as Enterprise passed them by)
@JasonHauser1255 жыл бұрын
This is great. His commentary is so convincing it almost makes me think this is real technology and not something made up for an old TV show.
@GX3283825 жыл бұрын
hate to tell ya but the mines were a one-off, not part of the Defiant
@bluehavencd4 жыл бұрын
Roms idea.....
@niagarawarrior96235 жыл бұрын
ah the DS9 technical manual, i havent seen that in 20 years. Great video, im glad someone finally discussed the Defiants super weapon, the detachable warhead.
@jmfowler90625 жыл бұрын
I love how this a good proper title instead of "10 never before heard secrets of the defiant" or some thing silly and click baity
@sim.frischh97815 жыл бұрын
My favorite detail about the Defiant is Captain Sisko´s sheer badassery. Technically he commits a war crime, but the planet can still be colonized, just not by humans. And given how his opponent operates he has little choice.
@TheCaptainSplatter5 жыл бұрын
War, is always total war. Its only a war crime if you lose.
@michaellinner77725 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that it could expand and contract to be 10 times larger or smaller under different episodes of the show. Sometimes it was the size of a shuttle and other times the size of a Constitution class ship.
@Deredeo5 жыл бұрын
mabye in Fist Contact, the launch controls for the warhead were knocked out or other damage prevented firing it...
@Jayan_TM5 жыл бұрын
...to put it simply, it's overgunned and overpowered for a ship its size.
@TheCaptainSplatter5 жыл бұрын
Being small is also perk. Smaller target.
@denniswilson39025 жыл бұрын
They DID mention that in the show. And it was done deliberately.
@tareqn.gaming16225 жыл бұрын
I know. Not sure but there's a small chance it could blow up a few hundred tie fighters before retreating.
@brucemanly5 жыл бұрын
@@denniswilson3902 That's the exact line lol
@SirDankleberry5 жыл бұрын
Smaller size meant it was easier to handle and harder to hit in a fight so they could do bombing runs on a ship twice its size.
@trekman81885 жыл бұрын
I love all your videos and I think you guys are doing an awesome job. Would you consider doing a comparison video on the different weapons like turbo lasers or phasers, something like that. Live long and prosper.
@VCYT5 жыл бұрын
MISTAKE - the nav deflector isnt used in warp, its used at impulse speeds. nb- a warp field will natrually deflect debris by its wake motion forward. An its also possible that treks own writers may not know this.
@Parabueto5 жыл бұрын
However, according to current warp theory the warp bubble will trap energetic particles which you'll find all over the place as solar wind and cosmic radiation. When the warp field collapses these will immediately disperse. Depending how far you've gone this could well instantly vaporise your ship. That's probably what the navigational deflector is for at warp. Also explains why they work as a defence against lasers- the photons are scattered away from the ship just as it would at warp.
@ChefDansHookah5 жыл бұрын
The navigational deflector is also part of the long range sensor array, when in warp or impulse use, it is designed to move space debris and such out of the way protecting the ship from damage, it is also part of the warp drive system, without the navigational deflector, according to Treknology, the ship cannot go to warp, since it will have no protection.
@Terminator4845 жыл бұрын
@@ChefDansHookah Many of the old TOS-era ships lacked a deflector dish entirely, yet had warp drive. (But the art department probably just didn't care.)
@ITPMark5 жыл бұрын
very Interesting list of features! Thanks for sharing
@spiritofthewolf15x5 жыл бұрын
03:45 And that scene is why I'm crying again...
@TheBamaChad-W4CHD5 жыл бұрын
Other than what people have pointed out about the self replicating mines, I actually had no clue about warheads in the navigational deflector. I've seen schematics with it having separation capabilities but it's actually quite neat and would be a nice "last option" kind of thing. Pile a bunch of quantum torpedoes and tricobalt mines or warheads in there and remotely pilot it to where it could do some serious damage.
@nobleman93935 жыл бұрын
Which Sci-Fi faction has the best Starfighters: Galactic Republic(Star Wars), Imperial Navy(40k), Terran Dominion(Starcraft), Systems Alliance(Mass Effect), UNSC(Halo),Helghan Empire(Killzone)
@Kaiber_Phoenix5 жыл бұрын
The colonial vipers mk 2-7 from battlestar Galactica would be a good to throw into the mix
@lukasperuzovic14295 жыл бұрын
Obviously Star Trek as they almost have none (Wink)
@theoperumal51745 жыл бұрын
@@lukasperuzovic1429 Well there's the peregrin fighters. and Runabouts kind of count
@ReddwarfIV5 жыл бұрын
Babylon 5's Starfuries may not be the most powerful, but they are the best designed starfighter for space. If you want a combination of good space design and power though, there's always the Star League Gunstar from _The Last Starfighter._
@sbaunbooth19325 жыл бұрын
Gunstar one from the Last Starfighter
@atmankost32615 жыл бұрын
You had my like as soon as you said that the bridge should be deep within the vessel! That's something I've ranted about for years XD
@NiraSader5 жыл бұрын
My favorite Starfleet ship, “size doesn’t matter”
@daneflynn49795 жыл бұрын
Only the original prototype USS Defiant had a romulan built cloaking device in a deviation of the treaty with the Romulan Empire. This wasn’t a standard design feature on the further constructed defiant class escort ships (read: war ship).
@VancouverbyNight5 жыл бұрын
The self replicating mines weren't a standard feature but were only being used in one instance.
@McRocket5 жыл бұрын
Wow...I knew few/none of these. This was very interesting and well presented. Thank you.
@brickman9405 жыл бұрын
"Fascinating!" -Dr. Leonard McCoy, The Undiscovered Country.
@Deridus5 жыл бұрын
That's damned illogical! Search for Spock.
@c4in2655 жыл бұрын
after all those years this little ship is still a phenomenon
@jackkoffin15 жыл бұрын
The Defiant on DS9, one of the last truly great ideas to come out of the Star Trek franchise.
@anthonygonzalez28975 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but a few tidbits: The mines were not standard. Those were a custom design made specifically to be used in blocking the wormhole. Trilithium seems to be a normal by product of Starfleet warp cores. The Enterprise D had it on-board as well. The episode where the crew stops at a starbase to have a baryon sweep performed (and Picard goes Rambo) features the bad guys trying to steal trilithium from the warp core. Just wanted to point that stuff out in case viewers before me missed it! Thanks! Love the videos!
@jameslove54575 жыл бұрын
Forgot Sisko went Ham on the Marki lesson learned NEVER MESS WITH THE SISKO you wont win
@jamescannon25875 жыл бұрын
The mines were not a standard feature on the Defiant. They were made for a one time purpose: prevent the Dominion from coming through the wormhole.
@Uridien5 жыл бұрын
Rumor has it once a PADD was configured as a console, it would should sparks when the ship was hit.
@alexgataric5 жыл бұрын
Foam rocks were installed also.
@jhmcd25 жыл бұрын
Translation: Don't mess with the Sisko, and don't even make Starfleet angry. You won't like them when they are angry.
@owlwaifu49495 жыл бұрын
The best star trek ship
@awclark35 жыл бұрын
In a book I read of a defiant class that was painted flat black to increase its stealth. I found the idea so cool, when a got a model kit of the Defiant I painted flat black and it looks cool as well as a more practical color for a war ship. Of course filming would suck as to why white, light grey and light green are the colors used.
@FurdemonLar5 жыл бұрын
"You are Generation Tech" omitted again..
@elix9015 жыл бұрын
They have been replaced by cyborgs.
@datathunderstorm5 жыл бұрын
Not just that......where’s that nice music at the end of every Generation Tech video? That was always the icing on the cake for me. Bring it back already! Any Sheldon like nerd must be already freaking out at the incompleteness of this video, OCD style....!!
@theoperumal51745 жыл бұрын
I am offended! Give me my money back!
@Gomezli165 жыл бұрын
This video is very well done. Very informative. Thanks!
@jamesjustjames40665 жыл бұрын
Self-replicating mines on the defiant-class ships are like having whales on every bird of prey.
@Spacegoat925 жыл бұрын
Trilithium was a waste product produced by the ships warp engines. That's why they had it. On the TNG episode "Starship Mine", terrorists attempted to steal trilithium resin from the Enterprise while it was undergoing a baryon sweep.
@fbi8055 жыл бұрын
In actuality the original defiant did not have ablative armor until late in season 3 or early season 4.
@ntigdona74875 жыл бұрын
the ship was introduced in season 3 ep 1! ... so, it didn' t take long, did it?
@fbi8055 жыл бұрын
@@ntigdona7487 well as I said it didn't get ablative armor until late season 3 or early season 4 and if memory serves I do believe it was the second ship that replaced the original to have the ablative armor
@DIDYOUSEETHAT1725 жыл бұрын
At first I'm thinking Oh brother! Then I came back and watched the whole thing. Actually quite entertaining. I did't even know they put out this kind of detailed info on the Trek universe. 👍😎
@IronWarhorsesFun5 жыл бұрын
so basically Starfleet has a super stealth suncrusher?!
@LordInquisitor7015 жыл бұрын
Yes
@IronWarhorsesFun5 жыл бұрын
@@LordInquisitor701 THAT IS SCARY... makes the Scimitar a lot less scary.
@keithrees47555 жыл бұрын
the saying big things come in small packages comes to mind
@marcbartuschka63725 жыл бұрын
@@keithrees4755 Super Stealth only as long as they go along with the Romulans well, and we should not forget, that in Generations the Romulans also were working with that stuff (although I am not sure if they weaponized it, but I think they did). So the advantage of Star Fleet is not huge, if there is any - at least compared with the RSE.
@IronWarhorsesFun5 жыл бұрын
@@marcbartuschka6372 TRUE if one pissed of scientist working with a 20 year old BOP can do it.
@martinhanke16705 жыл бұрын
Defiant is the ship I like the most, after original Enterprise 1701. Voyager is also pretty badass, especially after it got future armor.
@Djarra5 жыл бұрын
Not the Defiant, but the Defiant class Valiant apparently had landed in a crater on a moon during a cat and mouse game with the Dominion. Although not seen on screen it is discussed.
@MorphidX15 жыл бұрын
It is NOT a Defiant class of ship, it is a VALIANT class ship. Know your ships man.
@Djarra5 жыл бұрын
@@MorphidX1 Nope the Valiant is a Defiant class ship.
@Terminator4845 жыл бұрын
USS Defiant, NX-74205. Defiant-class prototype 'escort vessel', lead ship of the class. USS Valiant, NCC-74210. Defiant-class escort vessel.
@hudsonball47025 жыл бұрын
The part with the warhead where you say Worf could have fired it rather than attempt to ram the Borg Cube, you should remember that the helmsman said that weapons were down. This would most likely include the warhead. Worf may actually have been attempting to fire it from the captain's chair before hitting the panel in frustration.
@leviboston-kemple90085 жыл бұрын
That's not a warhead, its the Defiant's shuttle.
@ShamelessMcBundy5 жыл бұрын
My favorite: I did not know that it had 3 shuttle bays.
@nobodyimportant24705 жыл бұрын
I heard about the 2 smaller ones on another video talking about the abilities of that class and that they were to small for a shuttle. This makes since with the built in stealth tech(not counting aftermarket cloak) and landing ability though. Fill them with small ground vehicles and land an assault team which then uses the ground/super low altitude vehicles to attack a base on the planet by going in under the radar.
@chrissonofpear13845 жыл бұрын
You can also find the deckplans (lots of blue colour) online in images.
@Kundalini125 жыл бұрын
Rom invented the self replicating mines. Trilithium was a by product of the warp engines (see TNG season 6 episode Starship Mine) so effectively all ships carried trilithium.
@maryellencook95285 жыл бұрын
You haven't heard REAL music until you have heard, and sung, Klingon kareoke, Ben. Being able to land on a planet's surface could possibly prevent any Betazeds from crashing the damned thing. Twice.
@hudsonball47025 жыл бұрын
HALF-Betazeds
@maryellencook95285 жыл бұрын
@@hudsonball4702 true; my bad. Would a full Betazed be a better pilot , you think ? Inquiring minds, and such.
@hudsonball47025 жыл бұрын
@@maryellencook9528 Who knows. Both instances were pretty much out of her control anyway. Crash landing a battle battered and partially disabled saucer section and Picard's ramming gambit.
@andrewbarnett845 жыл бұрын
REAL Music, you haven't heard real music until you have heard all 1001 verses of the Iliad sung in the original Klingon.
@maryellencook95285 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbarnett84 K'pla! If you can do THAT, you are a true Klingon warrior. I am only the lowly human chief medical officer and surgeon general to the Intergalactic Klingon Empire, now retired after many years of service. I cannot even bring myself to drink the true Warriors drink ,prune juice, because I find it too caustic for my system.
@BreakneckWorld5 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel. It's great!
@normandypilot88735 жыл бұрын
Uhh Boi my man the British Ben is back again! Sorry Allen but i just missed him...
@JoeFlansburgJoeMF745 жыл бұрын
It also had quantum sensors for detecting time problems or temporal issues like TARDIS's and time jumps, etc,.
@johnrickard85125 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that's not exclusive to the Defiant - the Federation standard issue everything sensor is, well, standard issue.
@GerardKean5 жыл бұрын
I would think the trilithium were a bluff is it weren't for the looks on the faces of kira and dax
@lukasperuzovic14295 жыл бұрын
Sisko would pimp hand slap a planet into oblivion
@lothean20995 жыл бұрын
I learned something new. That there is a deep space 9 technical manual. The defiant is a beautiful ship.
@uss_045 жыл бұрын
Rip everyone in that module when it launches,
@isaacwestling11415 жыл бұрын
Those were some of my favorite ships to send in mass assault waves when I played the Federation on Startrek Armada & Startrek Armada 2, I would send them behind a wave of Venture Class, and once any cloaked ships were drawn out, I would send in the larger vessels. I wish my copies were never destroyed, I'd still be playing to this day.
@Wanaskiwin5 жыл бұрын
GAGGLE MODE ACTIVATE! FORM OF... CHICKEN! and the enemy looked on in horror as their worst nightmare came to life, and the escape pod chicken monster took over the universe.
@Specter-Mr15 жыл бұрын
Love it.. I am a fan of both star trek & star wars have been since 1977.
@adammandic42295 жыл бұрын
Can we build an at-at in real life
@nicoweyers81625 жыл бұрын
This was surprisingly enjoyable - thank you!
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI17015 жыл бұрын
Toughest "little" ship EVER
@jeffhallam20045 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@atonyharding5 жыл бұрын
You sir lost all credibility when you stated self replicating mines were standard to the Defiant. Actually watch DS9 you'll see where they actually come from.
@cowboygeologist77725 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video. Thanks so much!
@tritan675 жыл бұрын
... ablative armor does not help with kinetic weapons, it helps with energy weapons!!!! most of star treks weapons are energy based anyhow. Why did you say kinetic!
@ChefDansHookah5 жыл бұрын
It does help protect against energy and kinetic weapon damage, it is designed to break, melt, burn, or vaporize away leaving what's underneath it protected. Think of Kevlar, or a knight's armor, it will protect, however eventually it will weaken and break apart, damaging what's underneath from repeated attack.
@tritan675 жыл бұрын
@@ChefDansHookah Armor does, not ablative. Ablative armor is meant to be struck by a energy weapon and dissipate the energy by creating a cloud of dust or smoke that disperses the beam. An ablative armor might also double as kinetic armor but ablative does not mean its meant to adsorb kinetic. wanna know the secret to stopping any military laser in modern world? smoke launchers :D it disperses light so it no longer is a focus beam.
@mr.b.72445 жыл бұрын
The self-replicating mines were not standard issue for the ship. They were designed on DS9 in order to stop Dominion reinforcements from coming thru the wormhole. They did not exist until Dax and O'Brien invented them in the weeks leading up to there deployment.
@pyeitme5085 жыл бұрын
Please make Earth in Star Wars videos? Plus Terran first and fxxx inferior Star Wars humanity!
@gups49635 жыл бұрын
Best ST series and most under rated
@datathunderstorm5 жыл бұрын
Gups Aye! Totally agree with you. BTW, I’ve owned 2 cars that I dubbed “The Defiant”. One of them was a Black Mazda MX-3, reminiscent of a flying saucer with wheels.
@luisarruda30615 жыл бұрын
Uh, DS9 is pretty overrated. I’m my opinion, Voyager is the most underrated.