The Future of Star Wars : The MANDALORIAN VS ANDOR

[@greedokenobi3855]

Huge fan of Andor, best live action SW show by far. Haven’t seen such realism and familiarity since the OT. TCW and Andor are my favorite Star Wars shows.

[@Intranetusa]

Have you seen Rogue One and Genndy Tartakovsky's 2003 Clone Wars?

[@greedokenobi3855]

@@Intranetusa Rogue One yes of course (love it) and some of 2003 Clone Wars, not all. But 2008 The Clone Wars is some of my favorite Star Wars content in general.

[@Intranetusa]

@Speur'Tighearna MacTerik - Your complaint doesn't make any sense. Just because Wookie slaves were used to build a part of the Death Star doesn't mean other people were not used to build other parts of the Death Star. The Star Wars lore and other media actually says/shows non-Wookies building it too. The original Death Star plans were created by Geonosians, and the Geonosians helped build the initial stages of the Death Star before it was relocated to other planets. The movie Rogue One shows human engineers helping to build and design parts of the Feath Star too. The Andor TV show portrays the workers only assembling robots that builds the gun disk of the Death Star - it doesn't show them building the main structure, other parts, or the entire thing. So the Wookies building the death Star does not mean ONLY Wookies built the Death Star - many other species and people helped build it.

[@greedokenobi3855]

@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 Just because it’s not showing everthing it’s doing a disservice you say? I have to disagree with you, Of all the complaints I have about Disney Star Wars, this is an exception because I don’t agree with anyone’s complaints about Andor so far, including yours.

[@greedokenobi3855]

@@Intranetusa Exactly. And in Andor they were just building parts for thd Death Star as far as I understand. I also don’t see the problem.

[@drexrasmussen8574]

I love both. But Andor just hits the spot more for me. Every episode had me invested and wanting more. The slow burn and pay off was next level. And the care it took to build its world and write its dialogue really satisfied me. I can’t say the same for the Mandalorian. But I will saw, when the Mandalorian gets it right, it’s unmatched.

[@GenerationTech]

You have a great star wars name btw

[@drexrasmussen8574]

@@GenerationTech oh hey thanks man!

[@paulab5264]

Agree 100% , Mando when its good is the best Star Wars, but overall I prefer Andor.

[@johnwolf2829]

Is the DVD available yet?

[@PalpatinesPlumber]

Andor is probably the most well made star wars show there is, but I think Mando is 80% as well made (not S3), and just has a lot more pace and action to it and thus being ahead of Andor for most people, me included.

[@harun776]

My friend who’s never watched any Star Wars series started watching Andor. For him Andor was an introduction to the Star Wars galaxy.

[@GenerationTech]

That’s really cool

[@ERYTHROGRAPHOS]

I feel sorry for him, he s about to be disappointed

[@braverywofalderson609]

@@ERYTHROGRAPHOS maybe, Or maybe not.

[@ERYTHROGRAPHOS]

@@braverywofalderson609 most definitely yes, if he tries on latest sw content..

[@Doctagreedy1]

@@GenerationTech I think the dialogue in “The Prequels” is spot on. What do you expect a kid who is raised by Square ass Jedi to talk like Casanova? The Jedi are for bidden to be romantic. he did the best he could to explain how he felt to the first girl he’s ever talk to face-to-face. When I was a teenager I bet my dialogue sounded Cringy as well. “Hey Stacy will you go out with me?”

[@W4kT3k]

Andor The writing, the dialog, the content, everything.

[@jazzx251]

"EVERYTHING!" (including that one word)

[@Doctagreedy1]

I think the dialogue in “The Prequels” is spot on. What do you expect a kid who is raised by Square ass Jedi to talk like Casanova? The Jedi are for bidden to be romantic. he did the best he could to explain how he felt to the first girl he’s ever talk to face-to-face. When I was a teenager I bet my dialogue sounded Cringy as well. “Hey Stacy will you go out with me?”

[@jazzx251]

@@Doctagreedy1 "Hey, Dedra, if I told you that you had a great body, would you hold it against me?" "Say ANYTHING like that one more time, and I'll have you in a cage on the outer rim of the galaxy!"

[@W4kT3k]

@@Doctagreedy1 It wasn't just the dialog by Hayden Christensen that was bad, it was all the dialog, in all three prequels that was bad. George Lucas made good actors sound awful.

[@tarzankom]

Andor was great. It felt dark, gritty, and lived in. It was more real than most of the other content in the SW universe.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

That grittiness was always an appeal of SW compared to glitzy and polished and perfect.

[@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation]

I definitely want to see more stuff like Andor. The "grounded" and espionage-y elements made the show very intriguing. I liked seeing how normal people actually live in this universe. Or struggle to live, to be more accurate.

[@poisonpen37]

It’s Andor and it’s not even close anymore. Mando has just gone so downhill with this most recent season. Andor’s storytelling was slow, but deliberate and very character driven, which was something I appreciated.

[@kyleyoung2464]

Mando s3 is more like andor than any other season. Stop listening to the internet for your opinion. And yes, i like andor more. But saying season 3 is bad because it focuses on other characters is dumb, andor is CONSTANTLY overshadowed in his show.

[@salty2913]

​@@kyleyoung2464 💀

[@poisonpen37]

@@kyleyoung2464 I never said I thought S3 of Mando was bad because it focused on other characters. I thought S3 of Mando was a shameless cash grab by Disney because they couldn’t bear to have their cute, green cash cow fade out of the public eye of the fans. Mando is focused more on fan service than compelling storytelling and it shows.

[@TheMagicalScientist]

Mando S3 was definitely influenced by KK which is no longer going to be the case, hence the reset in the finale. I’m looking forward to John & Dave having autonomy.

[@kyleyoung2464]

@@poisonpen37 watch the screencruch video on why they did so. Its important for the story john wanted to make, not for money.

[@ERRonLoad]

I still get chills from Luthen's speech. Andor is just great cinema, a great story, and is great background to how the rebellion formed.

[@firstlast9846]

I don’t think it was “the rebellion” as much as it was “a rebellion” they seem to have different rebel groups - like Forest Whittaker’s character’s rebellion and Leia’s rebellion.

[@ERRonLoad]

@@firstlast9846 it's the story of how those fractious groups come together, I think will see that in S2 when they learn about the death star, we may even see a direct tie in to the rebels animated series (when Mon Mothma is outed and has to flee Coruscant).

[@BroJust...7867]

I was one of the people who were saying Andor was slow or boring, but that quickly changed once I watched Luthens speech as well as Cassians' mothers speech Luthen's was mind blowing but Cassians mothers speech brought a real life tear to my eyes

[@ZanderFoulner]

That's just Love- wow. Also a lot of people fail to appreciate Diego Luna's performance. He suppresses his expressions so that he takes a back seat - allowing all the others to shine so bright! But then his character can explode- jarring you suddenly. "DO I Look HAPPY to you?" or his look of utter hopelessness at the end of his first day in Prison.

[@MalenGarek]

Andor is by far the best Star Wars we got so far and a perfect evolution of the IP. Yes the simple Mando and Kenobi stuff is what hits with the crowds but Andor is exactly the world described in novels and I personally see when I think about the franchise.

[@CyberSonic-V3.0]

Personally I enjoy both for what they do. Mando is meant to be more of a western inspired adventure show while Andor is a more grounded and realistic show within Star Wars. I think both succeed at what they do and are good imo.

[@JizzyNinja]

This exactly. I’m so happy that we have two differently approached shows

[@Ilyas-ty6cy]

Until Mandalorian season 3 come, that kinda disappoint me with Mandalorian now.

[@idanmuze8905]

Great point, but Mando failed at being a great Western. It's fun but just was unfortunately never well written. Lucasfilm needs to realize that people who don't deliver when it comes to writing need to be replaced with people like Gilroy.

[@xdredbruny2]

Mando hasn't been a western for 2 seasons.

[@davidfrederiksen3185]

@@idanmuze8905 well world building can be as important or mystical elements things Gilroy did not show off as well in Andor

[@dxjjw]

Andor is even better after a rewatch imo, there’s so such attention to detail it’s amazing

[@ZanderFoulner]

on my tenth rewatching. still seeing new layers I've missed each time. maybe im just dim!

[@AzureDefiance3701]

With Andor, I felt as though I were living in the Star Wars universe. Every character feels so real, with complex personalities and each facing their own challenges. The various planets and places are so unique and detailed. The pace is slower, and the dialogue is more complex, it feels so much more *REAL* I love Andor almost as much as the OG and TCW. *ONE WAY OUT!*

[@HelloThere-mh5gd]

Bullshit

[@dangermouse9348]

Although set in the same universe they are completely different shows. Andor is far more adult in theme and essentially a spy series, whereas Mando is more traditional Star Wars fare, episodic adventures with a background theme. Much like the old B&W Flash Gordon TV series that Lucas was inspired by. I had them even in ratings until the recent series of The Mandalorian. I now have Andor ahead. I am looking forward to season 2 more than any other SW project.

[@Longshanks1690]

Andor has a gripping, well told story with well written and fleshed out characters in a realistic and entrancing world. The series was incredibly well built and it earns all of its emotional highs and payoffs for Star Wars hardcore fans and casuals alike. So naturally it’s dead in the water and the fan service hour is where the future of the franchise is.

[@joeandrew8752]

So long as Andor S2 is as good as S1 ill be happy. Idk if i really want to invest my time in Disney starwars when the quality can be this inconsistent and the story, once again, clearly hasn't been planned out. Mando S3 deserved better and if that show, their cash cow, can be so messed up by the writers and execs i have no reason to expect better or even a base level of competence. Star wars simply existing isnt enough anymore, it needs to be good too.

[@ZanderFoulner]

@@joeandrew8752 and yet the same company funded Andor. It makes no sense.

[@CriticalNuance]

Andor hit all the spots 🔥. My first love in Star Wars is the force and force users. Even though I loved Rogue One, when I hear about the Andor show I thought they were wasting time on small characters. I was so wrong. Andor is Rage Against the Machine on TV. I love it.

[@davidblackman1586]

Not only is Andor the better episode-to-episode show because every line of dialogue matters, but Andor has the better overall story for a complete season.

[@soraisfinallyhere1305]

Hahah no

[@davidblackman1586]

@@soraisfinallyhere1305 well thought out there. Glad you're finally here to share.

[@davidblackman1586]

@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 lmao. The original characters? You mean the episode 4 characters? Because they're just the first ones on screen. . They're also part of a regular army Rebellion. And shows the darkness the Rebels were in before the light hearted chosen one showed up to save the galaxy. Sorry a kid's story is all you can handle.

[@paulab5264]

Andor is the Star Wars I always craved but never thought I would see: gritty for adults, with stakes and really good acting and dialogue, as if Star Wars got the Blade Runner/Battlestar Galactica reboot treatment. Mando season one and two were great adventure, feel good serials with a family appeal and lots of heart. Mando season 3 was still entertaining and I loved the finale, but the quality of writing and tone dropped dramatically. I couldn't shake the feeling that the show was setting up other shows at the expense of its own story. Having key plot points take place in another show (BOBF) was awkward. Andor is clearly the product of its creators, while Mando has too many cooks spoiling the broth. John Favreau is a better writer than that (catch the movie "Chef" sometime). Hopefully Mando season 4 can be a return to form, but I am looking forward to Andor more. As for the you tubers, I think some of them were threatened by the fact that Andor played by a different set of rules and they had trouble following and predicting the show, so it affected their ability to put out content.

[@spectreshadow]

I enjoyed Andor far more because I love the political drama of it.

[@acefalcons4903]

I envied you for your incredible abundance of time bruh.

[@jesseg5902]

Imagine 25 years ago a large portion of the SW fan base would be interested in “political drama”. How far we have come.

[@travisgames6608]

Eh.. The speeches were alright. I don't think it should have been called ANDOR. It should have been called RISE OF THE REBELLION or something cause it wasn't solely about Cassian, it was about the rebellion more. I felt that it had too many episodes that kinda dragged. Cassian should have just went to prison in the first episode instead of how he wound up going there later. Each of the plots should have been kept separate until the end. 8-9 episodes would have been a sweet spot; or even 10. The security guy got annoying after the fourth episode or so, I was hoping he'd be killed in the end and the imperial lieutenant would have at least been wounded or disfigured. Kinda played it safe with the villains.

[@abeautifuldayful]

@@travisgames6608 I also thought of Rise of the Rebellion. But I'm not that opposed to the family name Andor. It's grown on me. At first, you see mostly one character by that name in the slow buildup of the first couple episodes. But it's Cassian's last name. So you see his sister and others in the Andor family and close friends, one in Bix Caleen who might take his name later, who knows. And you see his family background in flashbacks done right and their unique family dynamics develop later. I appreciate that. Another season should reveal even more about the family of Andor and not only one person remaining, IMO. His sister may still surface, e.g. And I have some theories about that. The main point I'm trying to make is that family is always important in Star Wars and how fractured they can get (often at the hands of the Empire) but still make great contributions to the budding rebellion and glue fractures back together for either themselves or the greater society through great sacrifice, as in the next show in the timeline after Andor, Rogue One.

[@generalwarhammer9722]

@Homer That is so telling as to how childish mando is with its world building and dialogue

[@mattparsons2045]

Let me put it this way: In 12 episodes Andor managed to make FOUR statisfying story arcs that were all pieces of a greater story across its one season. Mandalorian season 3 couldn't manage that once in 8 episodes.

[@MWBalls]

Andor had an actual story, and characters. Mando season 3 had merchandising opportunities.

[@kolaranze]

Also Mando season 1 and 2

[@MPHIY17]

Andor. Both series have their pros and cons but Andor overall delivered a more believable Star Wars experience. The writers did the Empire and its formidable troops justice instead of turning them into bumbling idiots worthy of the "haha, he's got stormtrooper aim" insult that episodes 7-9 had.

[@c13lack5]

Ik what you mean but “stormtrooper aim” has been a thing since the OT

[@taxult]

@@c13lack5 Stormtroopers killed all the Rebels on Tantive IV, drove the Rebellion from Hoth, etc

[@taxult]

@@speurtighearnamacterik8230 I didn't see Vader shooting the Rebels on Tantive?

[@steelresilience]

Andor showed me a different style of SW that I didn't know I needed. It made me wanna join the rebellion. The small stuff: Imperial doctor smiling before torturing a mechanic. The unenthusiastic clapping after a piss poor speech. Man, that shit hit different.

[@freelancenerd4804]

Loved Andor! IMO it was really the better show. Just seemed more real or maybe the word I’m looking for is dramatic.

[@ajackass5950]

Andor is high quality. Has a vision. Mando is a bunch of kids trying to play with their action figures but they keep arguing over what happens and how it does. Andor is eaily dozens of times better than anything else disney has touched in years.

[@kolaranze]

Exactly

[@isaackim7675]

Anakin, "I can't breathe." Keno, "I can't swim."

[@melanienolley]

nailed it!😏

[@johnmusshafen2105]

This might be a hot take but Anakin's cringey dialogue most definitely shows how he's an awkward individual that doesn't pick up very well on social cues which makes sense given his background and also makes even more sense how it was so easy for Darth Sidious to manipulate him

[@lorigoshert6667]

Exactly. Anakin's lines should be cringey. He's a teenager with no experience with women, who has a crush on a slightly older and much more worldly wise woman, and he's desperately trying to impress her. It's not going to be pretty. (If he'd grown up in the temple like the other younglings and Padawans, things might have been different - canon novels have pretty much established that Padawans get it on together and no one cares as long as no one gets too attached - but he's basically just been with Obi-Wan, who's not going to teach him how to flirt.) Padme's lines could have been a bit smoother, though. She didn't have much prior romantic experience, but she's been in public roles that require eloquent speech for at least a decade.

[@tygrenvoltaris4782]

Except this is retconned by the clone wars show. The anakin there feels mature and completely different than the live action

[@JDthaMC]

Andor is so far above and beyond. Its not only the best Star Wars show it was the best tv drama of the year.

[@davidrobinson1946]

Im just so happy star wars exists. Thank you for saying this..ive never understood the fighting in the fandom. We are lucky enough to experience a world that is so amazing that we emotionally invest in it completely. From the little kid that wanted jar jar as a friend and to own my own lightsaber... To being a dad of adopted children and tearing up watching din officially claim grogu. Ive loved this world we get a chamce to imagine in.

[@neofulcrum5013]

Me too

[@Dxnttv]

I have to say that the Prison break episode is by far one of the best episodes of television I’ve ever seen, not just for Star Wars.

[@commondognut]

I think they’re doing too very different things tho. The Mandalorian is more of badass flashy spectacle where Andor is a very gritty character driven story. Honestly I love ‘em both

[@DMSProduktions]

Two.

[@Bucketroo]

Rogue One has become my favorite Star Wars movie, so it's not surprising I love Andor to bits. It's so well-done and feels so mature. I also love The Mandalorian for giving us that classic spaghetti western/samurai movie vibe. I want to see both shows continue.

[@officialsusq]

I just wanna cry ... only 2 seasons for Andor is a crime against humanity

[@corinneferrarolam5101]

Thank you Alan for all the intelligence and heart you bring to the experience of sharing Star Wars with us.

[@tokenstandpoint93]

Not gonna lie I found Andor to be the best show that Disney did for Star Wars. I am also in the minority that enjoyed season 3 of Mandalorian.

[@rickky2000]

Andor is prime. In my opinion it’s the most Star Wars (excluding animated series) thing we’ve gotten since rogue one.

[@allenisarunner]

Loved Andor. Loved how there were 3 big things that happened. The final episode was brilliant. The build in tension to her speech and the fight starting was so good.

[@uhagi6720]

Mandalorian: Action, flashy effects, extremely simplistic formula which casuals easily follow Andor: Comple story, deep dialogue, realistic action, tense moments, real stakes for characters, unpredictable formula Honestly, if you just wanna see people mowing down the empire, Mando is your cup of tea. I prefer Andor, since I actually fear for the safety of everyone besides Andor, since they have a real possibility of dying.

[@ImJustinSane69]

Binge watched Andor in one day. Amazing show. The prison part had some of the best scenes in television. Could be a separate movie. Gonna give Mando a shot now

[@franzferdinand5810]

Man I absolutely love both shows, but there is no way that quality wise Mando is better then Andor. Mando has started a new era for star wars and the themes in Mando are so fun and engaging, but man Andor. Cinematography, acting, FX, writing, muisc, the sets, clothing, all are just sooooooo much better in Andor. And I honeslty could not understand the whole bricks and screws thing. That people are seriously saying Andor doesn''t feel like Star Wars is just.....wow. To me, the grounded reality of Andor is just the most Star Wars shit i've ever seen. From Maarva's house full of ship parts to Mon Mothma's anti symetrical sharp dresses, all just feels soooo perfect in the Star Wars galaxy! Also I don't understand how the main problem people have with Andor is it being slow, meanwhile everyone and their mothers got through 8 seasons of Game of Thrones, and the first season of GoT was slooooow as hell.

[@Dephax]

Andor reintroduces the kitbashing from the OT, something the animated shows and newer SW properties tend to forget. To contrast it with Coruscant (and the Mid-rim)'s sleaker fashion and design was the most beautiful hing to see coming back to this universe. I really hope we get more Andor quality than Mandalorian if Disney and Favreau have any respect left for the IP.

[@jjstarrprod]

Hi Allan ! I knew of your channel for a few years already, but I gotta say it's with your breakdowns of Andor that your channel really took off for me. I was pretty fascinated by the amount of socio-political analysis you took from this series, and I guess it takes a genius work (Andor) to inspire and elevate another genius's work (you). While I think up until Andor, Mandalorian was the best thing Disney has done with Star Wars, I completely agree with you on the fact that Andor is the best thing that ever happened to Star Wars, bar none ! Even surpassing the OG trilogy ! If Mando is the clear spiritual successor of the OT, Andor is what Star Wars transcended into. It is one of those rare pieces of storytelling art that steer the audience both intellectually AND emotionally. If Mandalorian is still Star Wars for the whole family, Andor is the unapologetically Star Wars for Adults. And since most of the people who grew up with the OT are now easily in their 40's if not 50's, that's the main demographic of this series right there, which is why we are so passionate about it (not unlike Harry Potter, where the characters grow up at the same time as the readers/viewers), as it makes us feel that Star Wars has finally grown up with us (and this, despites being under the Disney banner, which, as we are painfully aware, is no small feat, which makes us appreciate it even more as a real unicorn, if not anomaly in nowadays audiovisual landscape). As for your point of view of the Covert vs the new Mandalorians being a metaphor for the Star Wars fans, I love it, but Ryan Arey from Screencrush just got out a terrific essay, helped by a few jewish history and culture experts, about how the whole Mandalorian season 3 conflict is actually a re-telling of the historic struggle of the Jewish people, with the conflicts between ultra-conservative orthodoxes vs modern Jews, and how they tried to reconquer their holy land. It's fascinating, and I really urge you to go watch it. I'm sure you'd find it as eye opening as I did. Btw, watching your thumbnail, wouldn't that be neat to have an episode (in whichever show,either Andor, or a flashback in Mando) where Din gets face to face with Andor ? Having these 2 papitos being the 2 new biggest faces of current Star Wars is something of a beauty.

[@GenerationTech]

I think the struggle between the mandalorian factions can be inserted into many struggles ranging from political left vs right to secular vs religious. I can definitely see how this story relates to the current political situation in Israel . Stories about unity and finding common ground are going to be extremely important in the future as humanity adjusts to AI and the increased connectivity we have with each other.

[@jjstarrprod]

@@GenerationTech talking about unity and AI, don't you love it to have an episode of Mandalorian talking about Droids rights and how their sentience could become a threat to civilization as a whole (shame that it got bashed, as I liked this episode a lot for what it tried to tell, but it just had the misfortune to be the 6th episode in an already sputtering paced 8 episodes season) ? That was just so eerily right in time, with the current public discourse with all the worrying signs of an incoming Skynet moment with AI like Chat-GPT4.

[@hunspeaks]

I work nights, have a 4 year old kid so I ain't got time for bs anymore. When I watch these series I just watch the first 2-3 ep then skip to last two ep of each season. Did the same thing with Mandalorian s2 and 3. Same with House of Dragon etc. Sat down to watch Andor and ended up watching the whole damn season. I'll wait a few more months to watch it again and it'll be the fifth time since. There's no comparison, man. You can get up and do stuff with the baby while watching Mandalorian but Andor requires my full attention.

[@Ast3rixMusic]

I love both but damn the acting in Andor just elevates Star Wars to another level. I just rewatched season 1 and man there were some things I missed on the first round. Diego, Stellan, and Kyle really brought it with their characters. Mando was good this season got into some new realms with Bo-Katan that seem to be leading the story somewhere new.

[@neofulcrum5013]

Star Wars is big enough for both styles to exist. Grittiness but also lighthearted adventure of different styles.That’s what makes it unique.

[@starlalalala4460]

Yes! the shows are made for diffrent audiences but both are made well enough most starwars can enjoy them

[@GGBlaster]

“Most people are good or want the opportunity to be good” I couldn’t agree more. My belief has always been that people generally want the same things for the world: peace, happiness, plenty, community. Where we tend to bash heads is when we have different ideas of how to achieve these things and what they look like on a broad scale.

[@avirandall8977]

really lovely video, thanks for making it! I enjoyed both shows a lot and had a really fun time watching Mandalorian S3. It was disheartening to go on social media and see people shredding apart every random detail as if it was the most important thing on their mind. This video was really nice to watch!!

[@DustinWillis18]

Great video. Happy to see Andor getting more love over time, but I understand if that content is not for every Star Waws fan.

[@richhutchinson2934]

I thought Andor was a breath of fresh air compared to most Disney Star Wars. The writing, script, acting, and casting was just so much better than most of the Star Wars we've gotten since the Disney acquisition. Let me just add that "Rouge One" was by far my favorite Disney SW movie, and I did enjoy the first 2 seasons of Mando. Season 2 I loved, especially that ending.

[@kolaranze]

I didn't care for Luke in Mando series because of the sequels. we knew that Grogu can't stay with him. Therefore they kind of "destroy" that ending.

[@Pitdmn]

What an excellent comparison. I love both shows. Your view at the end of the video is awesome as well. Keep up the great work.

[@Doctagreedy1]

5:04 I think the dialogue in “The Prequels” is spot on. What do you expect a kid who is raised by Square ass Jedi to talk like Casanova? The Jedi are for bidden to be romantic. he did the best he could to explain how he felt to the first girl he’s ever talk to face-to-face. When I was a teenager I bet my dialogue sounded Cringy as well. “Hey Stacy will you go out with me?”

[@ohkaygoplay]

One of the best moments in Star Wars series history is when Brasso used Marva's brick to knock that Imperial into the next hemisphere.

[@kylestark1800]

The dialog part...that is why Empire is the best all around movie of any of the trilogy. It has the brilliance of Lawrence Kasdan and Irvin Kershner.

[@Mote.]

Andor and Jedi Survivor are my two favorite star wars things in modern times.

[@nilemerton9558]

Well said, Allen. I personally liked Andor more because of the gritty personal side of the rebellion the story tells. I felt the Mandalorian started with a similar feel, a view into the armpits of the galaxy, then the energy started to drift a different direction for me. Which is fine, I still enjoyed all three seasons but was just a little bummed out by the shift.

[@KyberNexus42]

The issue with saying that Andor missed the “key elements of Star Wars” is that while yes we generally see in the *movies* the more important and major characters & events, that’s not all of what the SW universe is in its entirety. There is also the more “boring” day to day commoner life, and that’s what Andor captures so beautifully. It tells the story of the early rise of the Rebellion through the eyes of a nobody, a random adopted orphan living on an unimportant planet that gets scooped up into the power plays between the Empire and early Rebel cells. This lets us see the grit and effort put into the behind-the-scenes of the Rebellion that allows Luke to blow up the first Death Star (for example). The Star Wars universe is a living breathing universe with trillions of beings who all have their own individual lives, it’s not just the dozen or so Jedi masters, Sith Lords, and hotshot pilots. And I’m not saying Mando is bad, it started out as a quite good series mirroring the original trilogy, but now with season 3 it’s killed (sometimes literally) most of its possible story paths, and become a meta cash grab that only cares about unnecessary cameos and selling more merch.

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

How it literally killed storypaths?

[@KyberNexus42]

@@АлексейМомот-щ7о Well Gideon for one, and that ugly kelp creature thingy pirate king for another. Point is they’ve set up numerous plot points that could’ve been interesting, but then gone a completely different route that ended up being terrible (mainly talking about season 3 here)

[@Dephax]

Give me a few hours of your time and I can lay-out every reason Mandalorian is lightyears behind Andor and the OT in quality.

[@KyberNexus42]

@@Dephax oh yes please and I completely agree with you. The OT was one of the best pieces of cinematography when it came out, and Andor is again one of the best when it released. Mando is a cash-grab-cameo-trash-fest that is barely even Star Wars, it’s creator even refers to it as if it’s even in a separate universe! (A dumpster fire universe at that) Disney just cannot get anything to do with the sequels right at all.

[@Dephax]

@@KyberNexus42 well don't give them too much credit, they can't get most of the OT or PT right either :p

[@mco51193]

My wife and one of my closest friends of 30 years both hate Star Wars. “Andor” was their favorite show of last year. I know several other people with similar stories. For “Mandalorian”, I literally do not know one person in the real world that liked season three. I think I’m the only one in my group of friends that even finished it (a decision I regret).

[@castillogrande8926]

The Mandalorian is a fun show, no doubt about that!... But the "One Way Out" scene alone is one of the best moments not only in Star Wars, but in my personal opinion, in film making history. Just... cinematic perfection. Andor brings a gravitas and maturity to Star Wars that lends itself well to a series about fighting space fascists.

[@viviannguyen1147]

Allen, this video is exactly the reason why you are one of my favorite Star Wars commentators. Always look forward to what you have to say as it resonates with me.

[@Squiddy-go1du]

In my opinion Andor feels more like Star Wars (specifically ANH) than any other Star Wars thing Disney have ever released with the exception of my rouge one.

[@tomdagicour5123]

Agreed !

[@3Ds4All]

Great commentary. Insightful, fair, and very helpful. Thank you for promoting thoughtful and productive criticism of my favorite franchise - Star Wars! You have a new subscriber.

[@nickgarrett1784]

I love the little life lessons that each video has been starting with! 😂 This channel has slowly been taking over as my favorite. Keep up the good work!

[@pantonearqm2791]

I think Mando can take a lot from Andor. Yeah, yeah those are different shows, but good writting is universal, I don't want Mando's plot to be mind blowing but there were too many times when "It doesn't make any sense!" screamed in my head and I lost my interest for action.

[@masterjiraiya224]

Mandalorian series is for fanfare! Andor is for the diehard Star Wars fan that even read the comics and books, and know the Lore! Mandalorian, it’s for everyone that’s a typical Star Wars fan or a casual fan. Andor on the other hand is for the people that enjoy every aspect of Star Wars, that does not include a light saber!

[@archiveskywalker]

For me it’s Andor over The Mandalorian, though I still enjoy Mando. One criticism of Andor I don’t get is that it doesn’t feel like Star Wars; isn’t the spinoff material supposed to be where they can experiment with things?

[@joluoto]

I thought Andor was pretty good, but not Mando season 1 good, until the last two arcs of Andor, when Andor basically blew away all competition.

[@kolaranze]

Half of Mando S1 were just fillers.

[@MetalMilitia83]

Well andor is actually a good shoe while mando has big booms and explosions. Andor is what Star Wars can be. A vessel for telling great stories, but Disney and sadly many fans think a non character doing side quests like a video game is storytelling but it’s just lazy

[@jazzx251]

Andor wins. Not just for Star Wars, but ANY TV show! Name any other show that, in one season, is a successful heist movie, riot movie, political drama, prison break drama, sci-fi space opera, family drama and treatise on the origins of revolution .. and acting masterclass with at least 6 unforgettable monologues (one of which is only one line long .. "never more than 12") At least 3 of the episodes would be considered a "masterpiece" ending for any other series You'd need to go to a galaxy far, far away to see something this good.

[@philipcain5093]

Andor has my respect. Mando season 1 and 2 has my respect. I want an adult show. Season 3 was just like episode 7-9. Disconnected.

[@Logaan777]

Mandalorian season 2, to me, felt like it was someone playing a Star Wars RPG campaign as a Mandalorian character and then making a TV show out of it.

[@christopherpece5145]

Mandalorian feels like the "family show" that everyone can watch together not bad but for a broad audience. Andor is the show for adults or those who grew up in the 70s 80s with the original Star Wars as it has a similar feel to the original trilogy's sub context. Both are good, but for different reasons and audiences.

[@lucassteinruck6986]

Andor 100%. I love the feel that Gilroy delivers in Andor & Rogue One. I'm sorry, but the people that don't like Andor because of the lack of certain props miss the point of Star Wars altogether. They like the props, not the message.

[@mattlovespeebee]

I was SO excited to watch Andor because Rogue One is my favorite movie of the entire Star Wars franchise. I first watched it because of the possibility of it connecting to the sequel trilogy but Andor and Jinn’s deaths at the end squashed my theories but I still love it greatly

[@sethirving8356]

Ok. What I love: I love that you are chill enough to drop some real, while everything in the whole shot is in focus except for you. It tells me the content is more Important than the perfection. I'm so glad I found you man. You've said some pretty profound 😮 on this channel. Never expected to feel feel from a star wars breakdown. Luv u bro.

[@Stormingmonkey]

Mandalorian is for new comers - a fun scifi westen shooty show in space Andor - is for star wars fans - Andor is star wars It nailed the theme and idea of star wars (yes I wish there was more aliens too)

[@empireproductions1321]

andor does a really good job at showing the lives of the average people living in star wars, not some jedi or sith, or an elite warrior society, just normal people. we never really see that in starwars so it really hit the spot

[@Dephax]

"Elite warrior society" tell, don't show was the goal there. It isn't substantiated by it's own series. Hard agree though Andor was amazing

[@GothaBillsAndDeath]

I think the issue is that Mando S1 is great. S3 is... not even comparable to how tight the script was for S1. They kept retreading territories and character arcs. Mando S3 is not even a comparison w/ Andor, it's simply worse than S1 where it was really fun, action-packed, and relied more on that samurai / cowboy movie inspiration.

[@ChristianandCodyUnfiltered]

This has turned into one of my favorite Star Wars KZbin channel

[@hilloneko101]

Loved Andor. Once I got to the prison arc I knew I was onto something special. Though to be fair Andor has the best actors. Casting Andy Serkis as the line manager was genius. He is a genius on a body language. You know exactly what he is feeling without him saying a word. Plus f-ing Fiona Shaw as Andor’s mom. Her final speech was moving.

[@frankprebble431]

Mandalorian is a Father/Son show. Andor is a Geo-Political show. I enjoy both... and forced to choose, I would pick the former over the latter, pero that doesn't make either "bad". We live in a "One must be better than the other" time period, so I get that. Me? Love em both, and appreciate what each brings to the table.

[@yamagata008]

Your words ring so true. And I loved you quoted my favorite movie reviewer of all time. Like he understood what entertainment was fundamentally all about, your words show you get itit and understand. Thank you for sharing.

[@ShadowReaper-pu2hx]

You can tell by Cassian’s superior beard in the thumbnail which show is better.

[@justmike3018]

I'll take George's more colorfully imperfect Prequel dialogue over Tony's preachy grey dialogue & exposition, as much as I loved Luthen's final speech to his agent.

[@kolaranze]

Prequels are the best Star wars for me, but I'll take Andor over Mando anyday

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

Andor, for sure.

[@mr.boomguy]

This is probably the best side of the Star wars community there is. Probably the most moderate side, like you said. And I know I go against what you, Alan, are saying, but you are the kind of person I feel like I can take seriously, and I listen to your life advice and laugh with you in your criticism of our world. with that said, everyone please link or show creaters that give their own take on the show, so I can get more board oppions then just 'wise-guy Alan'

[@tyrionas]

You know there are a lot of youtubers making content like yours, talking about starwars and commenting on the new shows. most of them are actually very pessimistic and it seems like they are incapable of seeing the good in those shows and movies. all they do is talk shit about the shows and how garbage it is. It is sincerely refreshing to listen to someone like you that is objective enough and adult enough to always try to see the good part and try to bring the whole fandom together. really thank you.

[@gunsncars1157]

Andor had stakes and a good story that made us feel, that’s why it was good

[@tracyhughes8524]

I loved your comments. You are wise beyond your years, and what you're saying is so true. Watch what you like, don't watch what you don't like, and let everyone just do their thing.

[@kalquien]

I love Andor, and I enjoy the Mandalorian. For me the Mandalorian is fluffy fun cute baby, silent hero pretty common fare in nice packaging. Andor feels real and I love a touch of realism in my SciFi. I know it seems a bit contradictory but I do. Andor reminds me of The Empire Strikes Back. It is similar in tone and message which is to say that good may triumph in the end but a real price will have to be paid to win that victory. Many of the men on Echo base who will remain nameless and never see the victory had a part to play to ensure it.

[@АлексейМомот-щ7о]

EU: *allow me to literally name every single person on Echo Base*

[@PostalHeathen]

I enjoyed both Andor and the Mandalorian equally for different reasons. I think Star Wars is big enough as a franchise to tell both kinds of stories. We don't need to choose.

[@yamagata008]

I love the image that you painted in our minds at the end of this video. I hope the powers that be make it so!

[@bfgfanatic1747]

I enjoyed both for different reasons. I do think Andor is on the whole better since I loved the intelligent political drama of it, but Mandalorian was also a really fun adventure that let me catch up with some of my favorite characters during a new era of the series. They're two different shows, and while I would've liked if Mando was as good as Andor, it didn't need to be. While I absolutely prefer one over the other, they both did enough to keep me interested and entertained; Which is more than I can say for Kenobi, Boba Fett, or the latter sequels.

[@jasonphelps4218]

I loved both equally because they both succeeded immensely at what they intended to portray. Both series delivered on what they were intended to and both made me feel better and happier for watching them.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

Between Andor and Mando ix choose Andor , because , Mando is a Peak of classic star wars , but Andor is something new , and at its peak ,

[@andreefontenot8035]

If you watch episodes 2 & 3 while imagining James Earl Jones speaking Anakin’s lines, you realize that he’s speaking the same way that Darth Vader does in episodes 4-6. As a kid, Anakin sees himself as the most amazing force wielder ever, but he hasn’t grown into that dream. By episode 4 Darth Vader has the gravitas that merits James Earl Jones as his voice and the lines work.

[@Bodya_CN]

Allan: *releases genuinely deep and thought-provoking video* Also Allan: Staa Uaas

[@gavinjonsn]

I enjoy these shows equally but for different reasons. Mando, especially season 1, scratches my mos eisley cantina itch if you know what I mean. I also enjoy the character focused story. Andor is just, wow. Like Allen was saying, the way this show builds and builds on the theme of rebellion and then climaxes in the finale was amazing. It has me out of my seat yelling "fuck yeah" as Brasso smashed that brick on the stormtrooper's head. Both Luthen's and Keno's speech's were exciting and well earned. Iwill say that if Andor has another outstanding second season it will definitely be pulling ahead in my rankings.

[@lynette12]

It took me so long to watch and finish Andor because I felt it was so dire and depressing especially knowing what eventually happens to Cassian in Rogue One. But all the political intrigue, drama and Imperial shenanigans was really worth the agony for me. It was certainly well-written, the acting was *chef's kiss* and the pacing was very akin to all the slow burn novels/fanfics I hate myself for loving.

[@hello2jello4mellow34]

Another great analysis and opinion.

[@ThrawnFett123]

I think Andor is the better show, but The Mandalorian is the better Starwars show. You could move Andor into many universes, and it would still be a great show. Even the real world. The Mandalorian couldn't stand in many other universes. Its heart is Starwars through and through

[@joeaguilera6448]

Andor is top tier television