Generic G1 Transformers Who Became More

[@rayvenkman2087]

I always like the Sunbow idea of the Autobot and Decepticon conflict existing well before Megatron and Optimus Prime were created. Gives a sense of pathos to it.

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

The two base Armies of Thirteen each, and to be very surprised why this hasn't had toys or a TV Series yet.

[@sethputnamsghost]

Yes I like that idea as well.👍

[@anueutsuho7425]

Plus it likely makes Starscream far from the first Deception to try to overthrow their leader and take over.

[@Lazrael32]

@@anueutsuho7425 I've always thought that is exactly why megatron keeps starscream. he know's starscream will keep trying, and is not likely to succeed. so each time he fails it makes others feel like maybe it's not a good idea.

[@durkin9664]

@@Lazrael32 the makeup robo buttsex is probably is probably why Megatron keeps him around .

[@pravo117]

We remember obscure characters for a very very simple reason: They appeared in excellently written episodes. E.g. the search for alpha trion, etc etc

[@javivaki]

Kinda would be cool to see a vid of characters who have taken G1 names and became much more popular than those original characters. Like how Movie Barricade and Blackout and Prime Knockout are much more famous than their G1 micromaster namesakes. It would be interesting to see a lot of examples.

[@austinreed7343]

We’ve seen this happen to Unicron Trilogy names too. (Would love to see some more Unicron Trilogy character comebacks, might be too early for stuff like Aligned)

[@TomMSTie1138]

If Hasbro wants to reuse molds as many times as possible, they should use the Cliffjumper mold for Glyph. There's a G1 Goldbug coming out soon, I say give us more Throttlebots!

[@Lazrael32]

I wish we could get goldbug seperately. my buddy had it as a kid and i wanted to get one for both of us.

[@AS42100]

Yesss! I want updated Throttlebots!!

[@chadsmith9676]

A rapier is a straight, two-edged sword with a narrow pointed blade, designed especially for thrusting. There is also a popular rapid iron and vitamin supplement called Rapiron...I would lean more towards these. The spelling doesn't really lead me to "Rape Iron"

[@beauxr.benoit1374]

Tell WIll Ferrel high, and don't forget the cowbell.

[@chadsmith9676]

@@beauxr.benoit1374 Reaper loves cow 🔔 s....Hi

[@CassidyShadewing]

Maybe he was music based and is Rap Iron.

[@chadsmith9676]

@@CassidyShadewing Word

[@tbonejenkins8807]

Plus Floro isn't exactly a master of the english language. He could have meant any number of things but it got muddled in translation.

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

In my head canon, gladiaron is the one who personally trained Megatron to be a gladiatorial champion in the “pits of Kaon”

[@KRBrickBot]

1:38 Lancer's aftermarket price is not comparable to Greenlight's. Lancer was available at multiple online retailers (including Hasbro Korea as the one and only officially imported Selects) thus still goes for at most 2 times more, while Greenlight was exclusive to one seller Amazon (and whereever it was retail-exclusive sold in other countries) and it seems one ludicrously expensive impulse purchase set its aftermarket price to TEN times more.

[@serPomiz]

yeah. I've seen a few Lancer selling for below-100 when fully unopened, and below 50 for mint with no missing parts. I've never seen a greenlight below 400

[@Razorgeist]

I always thought that making that buff fembot Strika was a neat idea. Too be fair it might also have something to do with the fact that I'm a bit of an Amazon chaser.

[@brentsimard977]

Thats why I love these videos, there's always something cool I didn't know about Transformers. Thanks TJOmega

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

In my personal canon, Nova Storm has star patterns on her wings and Ion Storm has lightning bolt patterns on his wings to accompany Acid Storm’s 2008 Universe camo. That way, they’re more than just monochrome grunts who Shockwave siced on the Autobots that one time or easy repaint fodder for a new Seeker mold.

[@roninempire217]

Sounds good to me

[@cliffjumper1984]

I miss so bad being into transformers. Too much going on. Thank alpha sigma I can listen to you as I wrench on cars that I wish would transform and ask me to hang out!! :p

[@PixelsNcreatureS]

I'm glad I got Greenlight from Amazon when I did. I didn't even know she was scarce till a recent Instagram post

[@Jim_Jam]

I went to the wiki to look up that name thinking "There's no way it's going to be what I think it is." But it was

[@abrahampedroza7246]

I was thinking worse, I was thinking it might be R****don for some reason, it would fit the aesthetic.

[@mattr75]

Gotta love when obscure characters become more prominent

[@beanzilla9513]

Gee I wonder what this 10th leader is called, …oh oh no

[@serPomiz]

I swear, the giant autobot hologram (halonix maximus) is the G1cartoon version of Diaclone the Great the main six, hauler, gravedigger and dirtboss, not to be confused with dirtbag, he and roadblock are contractors. seriusly, the forklift costructicons is the only one missing at this point.

[@26th_Primarch]

The Forklift Constructicon could defeat Unicron by themselves.

[@potatochobit]

I did not even know those goofy colored jets were canon.

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

For now, we’ll just call that 10th Decepticon leader “the mysterious“

[@jaredhebert942]

You could _maybe_ give him a rapier or fencing sword, we don't have many characters who specialize in fencing when it comes to 1-on-1 combat

[@larrychilders6599]

I would call him Griffithron

[@AgentNevets]

Love obscure characters in general, but seeing generic bots become new Seekers, Glyph, Lancer, etc. are so cool to me.

[@kasimirmaser99]

I'm still waiting for Hook, Line, and Sinker to hit the mainstream. Fingers crossed for Legacy. You could get a pretty sweet Hook out of a CHUG-a-fied Lockdown retool, so I keep telling myself its not as far-fetched as I know it probably is.

[@Nolans_Stop_Motions_reviews_YT]

This subject is interesting! I like it!

[@Tun-Dar]

Great subject matter for a video. Keep up the great work TJ!

[@CuddyFox]

You need to do a part 2 of this. It is interesting to see all the background characters getting names.

[@slavinben4484]

Srap-iron is also a go Joe character name so hasbro could re use it to keep the trademark

[@Benjamin0119]

Interesting on the seekers. Of course, there were a lot more of them than these. Yeah, the three different Origins for the Constructicons was pretty ridiculous.

[@soundblaster1987reviews]

I think Animated Lugnut was supposed to be Obsidian. Dark-coloured evil flyer who has one eye and hangs around with Strika? That can't be a coincidence...

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Lugnut was based off Frankenstein and The Hulk original, not any preexisting transformers character. His design evolved so much you can't tell it anymore either then he's green/teal and -sexy- buff.

[@robbymanable]

It would be interesting if in the Coronation scene the statue standing off to the side on the left became the inspiration for Megatronus

[@Gaming_Nerd1993]

Well the last Decepticon is funny that can't be said is somewhat insensitive, but is shocking yet is named after the forced snuggle.

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

Fun fact: there was actually a Power Rangers ninja steel monster named bit scream. I guess band I wasn’t quite ready to work with Hasbro on Power Rangers toys, because I really think that he would’ve been the Power Rangers version of bitstream.

[@KRBrickBot]

Halonix Maximus should at least be a Super7 ReAction or Ultimates figure.

[@walterlopez5054]

there are rumors that Legacy Motormaster might have a Thunderclash pretool baked into him. if thats the case, id love to see the combined mode based on Halonix

[@jackofallclaws6672]

Anyone else want to see TJ talk about Death’s Head?

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

I don’t remember the transformers prime version getting a green repaint.

[@javivaki]

I think he meant G1-esque Arcees which is why he also didn't mentioned movie Arcee.

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

Personally, I hope we one day see Grant Theft Autoron leave a mark on the franchise.

[@26th_Primarch]

You gotta love the crazy lore stuff you can find in the depths of the Transformers wiki.

[@wsc0tt]

Huh, I never knew Nacelle was in that shot. I never noticed a fourth character at all.

[@jameszetterman4487]

What about the Giant Purple Griffin?

[@zacharybergman6083]

Do more bc this was an amazing video

[@haydenreviewscustomcombos]

Speaking of seekers, sandstorm.

[@RKStrikerJK5]

12:10 it was a trippy vision already filled with trippy visuals. I don't take this to be a literal image.

[@treymatikdoes]

This is the video I didn’t know I needed. Thank you 🙏🏾

[@mistermustachio336]

Here's what I've never understood about the coronation scene. There's no such thing as "past" Decepticon leaders. Even in g1 cartoons, Megatron founds the group. At this point in the movie, he's the only past leader... unless you consider that there may have been 4 billion years of leaders during the time that everyone on the Ark is deactivated. But that never came up previously, so weird time to bring it up.

[@tracytron7162]

Ohhhh god... That tenth decepticon leader... Hoo boy, they did not think that one through....

[@jeebus2313]

I actually didn't know about the whole "Hall of Heroes" thing until now, looked it up on TFWiki and uh... Yeah...that last one is uh...hrm...

[@bigstve61345]

I wouldn't be surprised if they release the titan Omega mold in guardian colors for shattered glass

[@metal_fusion]

I give you three Episodes: The Ultimate doom pt. 3 Two blue variant seekers. A pine green seeker that fought Brawn

[@tacticalcj2487]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but "Grave Digger" is named after a moster truck in the Monster Jam series of Motorsport, and more importantly is owned by HotWheels and by extention Mattel.

[@daneyal7162]

Acidstorm in Von Stroeheim's voice: "I'm not mere decepticon, I'm MOOOOOAAAAARRRR!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ethankiger4385]

It's funny because right as he started talking about Junkheap I was transforming mine.

[@chrisedwards3214]

In the first episode thunder cracker and skyward chased bumblebee and wheeljack you even hear frank welker and John Stephenson vouces

[@milenamodesti6228]

Tecnically sandstom is the autobot triple changer that is jellow and orange and is springer companion

[@IsiahTomas]

I hope someone on the thread mentions the Genericon project one person is doing on an art blog to flesh out the idea of Cybertron citizens.

[@roninempire217]

20:43 Looking it up… and… Oh. I didn’t expect that. But it could have been much worse 😅

[@Ranma_Leopard]

Very enjoyable video

[@RetroRobotRadio]

The Sunstorm name was actually invented by Ehobby, long before Fun Pub existed. Using the G1 mold.

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

I was hoping that one of the 10 ancient decepicon leaders would have been Megatronus, but I don’t think the Fallen was even an official character at the time of this movie, so yeah makes sense he’s not there as a statue.

[@serPomiz]

megatronus was a charather slighlty before in comics, but it was pretty much the "Forged To Fight" version, halfway throught getting enraged and starting to burn with cursed power from the inside out but yeah, if one thing that film did correctly, that was giving us the ancient primes and their relics as a plotpoint

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

@@serPomiz I hope that he appears at some point again. It’s a shame that the Fallen didn’t get to do much to show off that godly power in the movies. I like his designs for his incarnations.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Blast is the best generic turned into a new character, considering he's an animation error and not a character.

[@andrewgrant6516]

Beast Wars Arcee was a repaint of Black Arachnia. Never seen a green repaint of that.

[@iodaspark]

Now THIS is higher learning!

[@lazarussolomon3541]

19:04 my favorite is Rapitron

[@RetroRobotRadio]

A lot of those female Autobots got names because of a fun publication story called flames of yesterday.

[@chrisedwards3214]

Seems like Orion pax and hot rod are descended from zeta and guardian prime

[@RetroRobotRadio]

Grave digger actually appeared first in a old Transformers choose your own adventure book.

[@Sammytheflaaffyfan]

In case anybody is wondering... His name is Rapiron.

[@kray97]

LIfeline is a retconned name for Paradron Medic.

[@VlvrdMlgm]

I just looked up the 10th statue in the Hall of Heroes & it took me a moment to figure where his name came from; I mispronounced it & thought it was from another word for "fast" (hint hint)

[@paultroy8595]

This was very informative thanks alot

[@sethputnamsghost]

I was lucky to grab Lancer when she came out, now Green Light on the other hand.

[@p.g89]

I'd say hauler is the one on the far lower right and gravedigger is the one standing up next to mixmaster on the right side

[@baconshake2401]

Any realization that a bunch of these G1 characters actually show up in 1980’s animated movie?

[@kappakiev9672]

Shoutout to Scattershot in the Unicron trilogy (Cybertron)

[@lareh5501]

I'm surprised he didn't mention the purple female seeker (appears amongst other seekers jumping down one of those construction site elevators, rusing into battle... I think outside that cave with the rubies). I guess she became the inspiration for slipstream or bitstream? The fleet of cargo trucks and transforming cargo that Megatron had as he tricked Orion Pax, and then of course, Orion pax's friend that got offed (dion?) are minor screentime characters that could've been a part of this discussion; but hey, you didn't say this vid was all inclusive.

[@visionaryventures12]

I’d like to see Autobot Spike.

[@Midrealm_DM]

17:00 you skipped Nominus Prime and Nova Prime (different from Prime Nova)

[@TotallyNormalUK]

I'm still surprised that Hasbro hasn't released a new SunStorm yet. Seriously, just use the Earthrise mould and give it ALL of the fire affects you can make! It's easy money and why won't Hasbro do it?!

[@dylanphilpott8698]

the tenth one is rapiron! what the fuck

[@Top_Galer]

I'm a Filipino and I didn't even know there was a Transformer just named "Pinoy", albeit in a not so good spot.

[@Camodino100]

In the constructicons what about dirt boss/ dirt bag

[@sea-envy3137]

The trivia I find interesting from another bot-tuber video is that Acid Storm has been shown as both Male and Female in different media. and recently male and female in the same media. apparently the other Decepticons don't comment so we don't know how changing gender is seen in Cybertronian society.

[@havokan45]

Isn't there 11 Decepticon statutes in that last shot ?

[@visionaryventures12]

Nice idea!

[@demetrionieves4th540]

I think you should talk about all of the unnamed generic Seekers from Generation One who have not been given a name yet.

[@Maine307]

what ever happened to Reflector ?

[@wakeangel2001]

Heh, I was smart enough to get my greenlight and lancer at my earliest opportinity so I got them for the regular retail price

[@MisterRickSinister]

JUNKIONS RULE!!!!

[@random_gamer_guy82]

I just wanna know where or what cyclonus' two shot clone is upto in 2022 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@pillarsofsnow7940]

i looked it up, WHAT THE FUCK!!

[@weirdkitty07]

I call my Nova Storm Sun Storm because you can;t find SunStorm.

[@ValkyrieMagnus]

FYI you mispronounced the Filipino term Pinoy. It’s pronounced pee-noy. The ending rhymes with Toy. Otherwise a lot of good info in the video.

[@TJOmega]

Thanks for the correction, not a term I'm familiar with.

[@ValkyrieMagnus]

@@TJOmega no problem. I’m new to your KZbin channel but I’m loving the content. Keep up the good work.

[@mattwarner3611]

Certain bayverse Constructicons could be used for the G1 extra constructions.

[@MultiBrawler]

Can't believe theres a deception named Pinoy.

[@RialVestro]

There's another female generic who actually has a toy... but as a Shattered Glass character. In one of the episodes of G1 we get to see Alpha Trion durring the first Cybertron war against the Quintessons. His name is A-3 at the time and he has a different design that we usually see with Alpha Trion but it's heavily suggested they're the same character. In that episode the only other named character we meet is a fembot named Beta. When FunPub repainted Cybertron Vector Prime as Alpha Trion they also repainted his Mini-con partner as Beta-Maxx. I'm actually surprised that Beta never got named as one of the original 13 since she was one of the only named G1 characters who we know is just as old as Alpha Trion and he has been confirmed as one of the 13. I call her generic even though she was named cause she was barely on screen for the one episode she was in. She has even less screen time than Ariel/Elita-1

[@TJOmega]

I actually double checked her. Beta Maxx as Alpha Trion's Minicon partner is referred to as a male character, and the intention was to name it after the video tape format, not the female Autobot with A-3. That seemed to be an accidental homage.

[@chrissheehan4734]

@@TJOmega I am curious where you have got your information on those characters being strika and glyph as from what I see from official sources they are not. Flames of yesterday based the designs of those characters off the generic designs from ffod part 4 but they have not been retroactively changed in ffod to be named as those charachters.

[@TJOmega]

@@chrissheehan4734 It's from the Botcon story Flames of Yesterday, the generics in that scene were repurposed as Strika and Glyph.

[@chrissheehan4734]

@@TJOmega it says the designs in flame of yesterday were based off those generic designs and are not ment to be directly those charachters which would mean the g1 representations in the show are still generic and unnamed so the g1 versions have not been repurposed

[@TJOmega]

@@chrissheehan4734 They are specifically named as Strika and Glyph in the story and those designs were specifically used in the cover art to represent them.

[@bumbleprime7713]

..Bloodron, Duke Fishron-

[@zoltanperei4789]

Na hold on! Zeta Prime was a character before the War for Cybertron game??

[@sensevison1464]

14:31 just like me

[@prognemesiss]

searches 10th villian name.... wait, since when is making rap music a crime?

[@zufalllx]

Rapiron? Are you saying it correctly as RA-peer-on, or incorrectly as Rapey-on? That's rhetorical.

[@zufalllx]

:ove the fact that I have 13 Greenlights

[@KaijuNoir]

I bet you the last Decepticon leader is Chevron!

[@warrenlafnear3384]

Does the name start with a "R" on

[@CORE1.8MINISTERIES]

Defcon??

[@Ansem458]

Yo TJ look up “jizai toys sentinel prime”