Why Gen X Characteristics Are Causing Problems | A Recipe For Effective Team Leadership

[@markflierl1624]

I'm Generation X and I find most work places to be like cults. I just want to show up, do my job, and go home: without joining the cult.

[@t-squared6406]

glad I never became a part of it,just a stupid job!

[@markflierl1624]

@ That is so true. Very few people I work with I would want to hang out with. Especially the people in charge. The people in charge are the craziest!

[@mssweets6119]

Exactly

[@stephanies3246]

I LOVE YOU!!! Well... I love what you said there. Over the last 15 years I’ve had 2 boomer supervisors at two different employers tell me, “Look, if you want to just come in, do your job and go home, then you’re in the wrong place.” I now have a fellow Gen X manager and it’s awesome!

[@abnerhayes6915]

The gen x way luv it

[@bentmercer]

As genx we expect everyone to carry their weight, without supervision, without micro management

[@springsource]

SRSLY

[@frozenkilt]

Right? I hire adults for a reason. Come to me when you need help or the big club to get the point across somewhere else. Outside of that, if I don't hear from you, I assume it's business as usual.

[@stuart6478]

fake news

[@1122Hoochie-Coochie-Coo]

Exactly. Boomers and the millennial kids constantly need validation or their hands held for EVERYTHING. IT'S PATHETIC!

[@richmondmancil9264]

Yep. If they can not, then they should be fired

[@winst0n888]

The only problem Gen X managers have is not enough Gen X employees.

[@augustcanyon3438]

100%

[@shivag73]

Amen

[@THE_CDN]

Indeed!

[@eligebrown8998]

Truth

[@TyStar10]

Bingo 🎯

[@stephanies3246]

Boomers and Millennials are needy af.

[@MrJireh09]

Agreed!!

[@joearnold4378]

As a Gen Xr I find most meetings to be a pointless waste of my time. Leave me alone and let me do my job.

[@KFJN]

Agreed

[@michaelminervini1908]

I hate meetings. Especially scheduled weekly ones.

[@mbrady2329]

@@michaelminervini1908 the weekly ones would be fine if everyone just followed the agenda, stayed on topic and didn't waffle.

[@corvussheperd8046]

Amen.

[@lukaszmikula123]

Could not agree more

[@dalerushton1394]

I'm a Gen-X dude, we're not the problem, believe me. I'll leave it at that.

[@kj475]

Gen Xrs are independent and confident in their own abilities and expect the same of everyone else. They don't need external validation and are comfortable accepting responsibility for and managing their own lives. They don't want to be coddled and have no interest in coddling anyone else. Their favorite words of advice are "Figure it out and get it done"

[@winkingowl1913]

That's how we were raised!

[@avoiceinthewilderness9864]

That is so true!

[@ajgunter8932]

100% millennials are a f*cking joke with how helpless they are.

[@keyratcane66]

We were the Latch Key Kids. We are independent and want to be left alone.

[@keyratcane66]

@@ajgunter8932 That is being kind.

[@pthompson5135]

I have to admit as a Gen X, I always say I go to work to work and not have to socialize or pretend I give a crap about everyone's personal life or even worse feelings. I don't need that attention and I'd rather not have to be expected to give it. It really is so lame to me at 55 to have a 32 year old say I hurt her feelings because I asked her why she didn't take extra time to set up a very important work space prior to the next work day. It was a question but all she heard was an accusation and literally complained to HR. She is gone and I'm not. That is something I cannot stand. Stop requiring other people to spend more time asking you a question in a way that you don't find painful. I agree with productive regular staff meetings but I don't require them to want to do my job well. And I certainly don't get offended by questions posed- I just answer them without crying. We had a 20 something employees mother actually call in for her daughter a couple times- it was embarrassing. Her daughter was let go eventually. She took everything as an insult when just being corrected. Work is work- just do your job and then leave it behind when your done. Building team trust and closeness via parties and meetings has its own problems- that being the clicks that form leading to all sorts of stupid shit that takes place not even work related. I've worked with people from my own age group and generally it works out good, but younger groups and all the suddenly I have to talk to them like their big babies; change my voice inflection to go up, talk softer and make big eyes, talk slow and phrase everything in the most passive form possible. Its dumb. I agree Gen X is a big problem for boomers and millennials. So sad for them.

[@Mr360cuda]

Two things bother me most about the young people. One they seem to think we should be more sensitive about their feelings than getting the job done. And they are always offended!

[@Eyesunmoonstars]

This feelings ish is getting on my nerves for real. Why have a meeting about Billy’s hurt feelings? What are they expecting me to do about it exactly? Rub his back? 🥴

[@pmeehan_3]

As an older Gen X we grew up with little supervision. In the workplace give me the tools to do my job and don't breath down my neck.

[@44excalibur]

Look, when the zombie apocalypse comes, Generation X will survive and the Baby Boomers and the Millennials will perish, it's that simple.

[@moksha6202]

You are probably right . M will die young. In the long run it will be Gen X as they have better work ethics.

[@michellelea8511]

This made me laugh because it is so true. Gen X to the bitter end!

[@michellelea8511]

@Thomas Drish 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@angelarocke5164]

My fellow Gen Xers, I wholeheartedly agree. As a matter fact, this is one of my slogans lol for lack of a better word at the moment.

[@anikadiamond007]

Millenials.

[@lihtan]

I'm a Gen-X. I remember one job I worked at, that was a total chaotic shit show when it came to management and leadership. Some of my co-workers asked me how I managed to stay motivated and productive amidst all the chaos. I told them that you needed to find your own sense of meaning and purpose, in the absence of praise and recognition. Think of this as a post-apocalyptic society where no one is in charge. If you want something done, go do it yourself. Don't expect answers from the boss, because he won't have any! If the systems you need aren't in place, then you'll have to build them yourself!

[@gustav24-7-52]

While the Boomers and the Millennials are having pep rallies and team meetings to plan how to achieve this week's goals, Gen X just wants to get the job done so we can go home. You want hugs, get them from your family, not your job.

[@mugshock1234]

Well said!

[@witchqueen8576]

right on

[@a2ndopynyn]

*^THIS THIS THIS^*

[@RiverSprite30]

I can understand the importance of team building and needing to rebuild that in the workplace. That actually is important. The problem is, the younger generation doesn't want to stay on topic about anything serious in these meetings

[@eligebrown8998]

So true

[@ajgunter8932]

So basically what youre saying is Boomers and Millennials need to be coddled and have there hands held and shown how to do each and every part of a project. At the end is everyone supposed to get a participation trophy?

[@MrJireh09]

Yup....remember....boomers are parents of millenials..,.they love the get praised by doing nothing...,.

[@Grubnar]

Pretty much, yeah!

[@stuart6478]

green xers invented the participation trophy. fake news

[@cswservices2240]

Don't forget that if something happens and you make a small change to overcome a new obstacle to help them understand why you didn't just call it a day. Go home early and come back late since there's something different.

[@danielball959]

To be fair, that IS how we raised them...unfortunately. Helicopter parenting, play-dates, expanded CPS so if a kid is on their own even a little bit, the state comes down with both feet on the parent for letting their little loin-fruit have some freedom and responsibility. WE let this happen (Generation X), we let it get this way, this is the result of the participation trophy, helicopter-parenting model. Our parents might've been largely absent, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. WE overcompensated, and now this is the result.

[@xtraflo]

Gen X - "Figure it the Fuck Out!! We had to !!"

[@kimberlyn.2096]

Generation X here. Sarcasm and cynicism are our jam. We are independent and have always taken care of ourselves. The latch key kids don’t need anybody. “Reaffirm”😂😂😂😂

[@augustcanyon3438]

Shout out to truth!

[@shawncarter5619]

Yes, we are the Honey Badgers of human society...Honey Badger don't give a shit!

[@Eyesunmoonstars]

Heavy on the sarcasm and cynicism, please and thank you!

[@t-squared6406]

I am a Gen X,the early part,we just get things done,no fancy title,no bs,just get it done!!!

[@hirsch4155]

Late part is different.

[@lucasbuck6588]

Same here

[@Mr360cuda]

First year GenXer 1965. We are a different breed for sure!

[@DartJedi]

My last job. There were Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, and Gen Z. I am one of the Xers, The Xer, as I became. The Company was started by being ran by a Boomer CEO, Then it passed to his Millennial Son and Daughter. It was ran both of the ways you talked about, and both ways it suffered. I was the longest non-related employee when it was sold, also the longest employee in general. There were meetings that were worthless. And management did not explain anything and just a mix of everything you said, was a way to determine the difference in management styles. You are wrong, stop blaming Gen X for the inadequacies of the other generations. And btw, Corporate America was bending the boomers over in the 70s and 80s, this showed us Gen-Xers there was no loyalty, so we do not expect it, because there is none. Do not put your greedy lies on us. Just give us the correct tools to do the job and get the hell out of the way. If the other gens cant keep up, that is not our problem, They can ask for help, we will give it, and they better listen.

[@sstrange1973]

Speak Brother!

[@jackieortegadesigns326]

As a Gen Xer, I totally hate weekly meetings and don't see the point of having it. Monthly meeting is enough, weekly meetings are way too suffocating and a waste of time that could have spent more productively in making an output at work. I wonder whats wrong with these boomers and millennials, can't they learn to use their brains and stand on their own two feet.? We're not your helicopter parents to do it. And please no we don't need your praise and certainly not interested to be "seen". We are happy doing our own thing.

[@jimflagg4009]

Gen Xers grew up with both parents working and latch keys. We had to do everything on our own. We kinda think every one is independent and will handle it on their own. We hate micro management where the boss is constantly checking in. We would rather have the task emailed to us and be left alone to work on it.

[@t-squared6406]

exactly!

[@firebirdtelevision175]

I like being part of a team, but I don't need to hear if I am doing a great job. I already know I am. My millennial managers apologize for my hardships (customer service woes) and I don't understand why. It's my JOB

[@iamcancer3298]

Pfft...As a GENxer, try daily meetings😒with two extra afternoon meeting, for a total 7 per week

[@hirsch4155]

Yeah that’s all well and good but a lot of us Gen x are cold af. Admit it.

[@hcoop5251]

As a generation x working for a gen x manager, it works pretty good for me. I would like some praise every now and then but I know I do a good job. We were brought up to be independent. I do think that millennials may struggle because they grew up getting a participation trophy for everything.

[@anikadiamond007]

I work in tech, so of course, many of the C-Suite, managers are Gen x. I'm Gen x as well, and very independent! I love their management style. I'm not interested in giving grown people participation trophies

[@stuart6478]

this is not a generational trait. this video is fake news

[@Killswitch1411]

i'm a millennial born in 84.. I don't ever recall a participation trophy.

[@1122Hoochie-Coochie-Coo]

@@Killswitch1411 Where were you raised?

[@Killswitch1411]

@@1122Hoochie-Coochie-Coo Wisconsin

[@syvajarvi2289]

I was a Gen X manager with millennial subordinates. My meetings were infrequent, informal on the fly, and as needed. After almost a year of one wanting to be micromanaged and the other thinking that they had the skills to do what I could do…. I went into contracted consulting, told my then boss to promote the one who thought they could do what I was doing…. Hell, my boomer boss was already meeting with both of my employees so why be the middle man in that arrangement? As for Gen Z, I kave a kid that is in that generation. I raised him with two important ideals…. Figure your sh*t out, no one else will for you…. And Life sucks get a f*cking helmet, it will be hard but worth it if you do it your way. He just needed to know to diversify his skills and be confident in his decisions, failure is an option but get back up on your own because no one else will really help you.

[@Christy.1]

I have two millennial daughters and one gen z daughter. I prefer my gen z daughter. Even though the older two started out good and well, when they got out on their own as adults, they absorbed all the nonsense and sucked it in and believed it. My youngest sees their nonsense for exactly what it is. She still has her moments, but I think the gen z's see how the millennials are and are not impressed at all with them. They're more open to us X'ers advice and such.

[@increiblepelotudo]

I'll paint it in the simplest way I know from personal experience - (1970 born). No one taught me how to ride a bicycle, I taught myself with zero praise or comments how to ride a bike when I was nine. We were left alone and had to figure most things by ourselves. Teams can and do work, but they need to understand all the players on it. I love, love, love pulling my own weight of responsibility when in a group setting, but all stakeholders need to know and understand how the other members work. This is a lot to ask, but our background is vastly different than Boomers and Millennials. Our kids, kinda get it, as they were not coddled. My kids were always told the following, "... yes, it was good work, but what do you think you could have done to get a better result on the project.'

[@avoiceinthewilderness9864]

I know so true. I was 5 or 6 when I taught myself to ride a bike.

[@christinagaller4374]

Im working at a millennial majority company and there is like a meeting everyday. This meeting culture is too much. However, its not much of a micromanaging issue, it's more to connect, bond, learn, sharing, socialize, and updating each other.

[@njineermike]

​@@christinagaller4374I don't need to bond, I don't want to be their friend, socializing is for off work. Point at what you want done right, leave me alone, give me my paycheck, and well be fine. Otherwise expect me to only participate with sarcastic comments.

[@rainybeet]

Best description I have seen of Gen X kids is the Home Depot Kids... It seems like there should be someone around to help out, but there isn't. Latch Key all the way baby! (Minus the latch and key starting around 9.)

[@daleyounk8005]

As a millennial tech professional, there are a lot of ways to get a thing done. And even more ways to do it wrong that make major future headaches for the whole company. We don't live in a world that "done is good enough." No matter how much time we put into self training, it is critical that our senior peers take the time to show us how and more importantly why things are done based on real world experience. But most of them won't be bothered. It is so tiring hearing gen x talk about how they just got it done, and then they call a millennial because they can't open their email.

[@barbaramatthews4735]

Im Gen X and like team work. I don't like to be micromanageg nor do I want to micromanago others. Team meetings can be important but need to be limited. Half the time I've been to ot, it was a bitch session. The other half was how great the management was doing and a lot of complicated information that didn't even have anything to do my actual job. There is always one person who waits to the very end to ask a stupid and random question that has nothing to do with the meeting. It could be something about the microwave in the break room or a piece of broken office equipment... and it will lead to another half hour of nonsense. Sometimes these meetings are at lunchtime and a manager that doesn't know anything wants everyone to clock out but be there anyway. He or she is worried about overtime. That becomes a big debate. Meetings should have a purpose and set time limit. The topics should be work related and pertain to actual jobs. It should be informative and to the point. Don't hold a meeting to hold a meeting.

[@t-squared6406]

exactly

[@michellelea8511]

Hit it on the head. I don’t mind meetings if they are pertinent and to the point.

[@DefiantSix]

I'd bet the mortgage that it was one of us Gen-X'ers that invented the line, "That was a(nother) meeting that could have been an email."

[@christinagaller4374]

Im working at a millennial majority company and there is like a meeting everyday. This meeting culture is too much. However, its not much of a micromanaging issue, it's more to connect, bond, learn, sharing, socialize, and updating each other.

[@michellelea8511]

@@christinagaller4374 yep. The amount of intrusive and what I consider inappropriate activities going on during these meetings has me flummoxed. One meeting recently had us discuss our “love language”. How is this pertinent to work?? It’s not. I am living in the upside down.

[@DeAnnaG_KissingFrogsMedia]

As a GenX worker, I get crap done and usually the crap of 4 others too. As a GenX manager/team leader - My teams are fire. Me as GenX manager answering to a boomer who clearly is trying to intentionally make me look bad, play power games or otherwise treat me or my team like dog crap to get a bonus the rest of us wont see. and I call em on it…”you’re fired!” Ok. Say goodbye to that bonus. Because usually if I quit or get fired, my coworkers/ teams either get fired or walk off the job. What most employers dont get, is that GenX employees are stabilizing their companies. And since we are hitting retirement or burn out, turn over is gonna get even worse than it is now. Bring the pay and the benefits or kiss your corps goodbye

[@aquarius5719]

Power games can only be played by slackers. It takes time to think moves in that game. When someone plays games of power, solve it with more workload. If game continues despite of more workload verify that the workload is not being delegated to someone else and micromanage progress so the slacker has no time for games.

[@74artgrrl]

well, we were latchkey kids. I was, anyway and my boomer mom often repeated that old shit “ children should be seen and not heard” and trust me when I say I wasn’t heard. Also my single mom of two kids drilled it into me to work hard for ANYTHING I want in life because you can’t rely on some man to help me. I saw with my own eyes she and many other moms had ZERO help in raising kids. She would also frequently remind me that one day she’ll be dead and I shouldn’t ever rely on her. I’ve worked since I was 12. As an adult, until a mere 6 years ago I worked 2 jobs and I raised my own daughter alone with no child support until I met my now husband. Gen X had it rough. But that’s also why we’re tough.

[@Single_moms_suck_at_life]

That's really all I hope for from my own daughter. Don't be a victim and learn as many lucrative skills as possible, but I worry: is that enough or just my skewed gen x perspective?

[@74artgrrl]

@@Single_moms_suck_at_life look, I think we could all claim to be victims if you want to find that niche. And almost all of us bitching, one way or another, are working class. Republicans love to reflect on Reagan being the best president... but he began to spend and bring our deficit high while claiming his “trickledown economics” would eventually reach the middle and low class income workers. Ever since then we’ve seen democratic presidents even out our deficit and republicans lower it again. With wars and tax cuts for the rich. C’mon now.... we as the working class citizens pay their salaries and healthcare for life should come together here and decide that the thing to do is to make working people’s lives better. That means... backing “Black Lives Matter”... first and foremost. Full stop. And let’s remember to mention that good cops hate bad cops but the system prevents them from saying so. And misogyny is alive and real... so stop telling women they’re mistaken about their experiences in life when you’re a man and don’t like hearing or reading what a woman puts out there as her truth because it simply makes you uncomfortable to reckon with. Understand that most feminists are here rowing this boat with you guys because we love good men. Ok? And you all need to understand that black women are the hardest working group of people that I have seen in this country. And I’m a hard working white woman. And all I have to say right now. Let’s hope Biden wins by a landslide because another 4 years of trump... even as a white guy you won’t recognize this country anymore.

[@hcoop5251]

Exactly, suck it up buttercup and just do your job. - Gen X

[@roxane1237]

I've lived the same thing as you but I am a millenial. I don't know if it has much to do with generation here. Seeing your single parent struggle makes you very independent (maybe to a fault).

[@74artgrrl]

@@roxane1237 yes, that’s a very valid point and my intentions are not to exclude people of other generations. There were boomers and those of the silent generation who were also raised by single parents. The only reason I bring up GenX and latchkey generation is because the 70’s and 80’s saw an alarming number of divorce rates and women navigating the workforce without proper child care programs intact. Many of us raised ourselves. But I do understand your point.

[@pcs9518]

I’m a gen x manager in the retail industry. I actually increased meetings due to employees needing their hands held every day to get the job done. I encourage independent work habits and emphasis on how I don’t want to micromanage everyone. I’m patient and make sure my employees understand the tasks I require of them and how to perform them. I continually receive the highest employee satisfaction surveys and my department has low turnover and we get shiz done.

[@vickiesmith5830]

Can I come work for you?

[@mugshock1234]

Right on! Reading your post was literally like hearing myself talk. You sound like a good boss, I wonder why 😉.

[@aquarius5719]

I reduced my meetings by informing manager about progress and any developments that may affect work. So the questions about how is my work going and other situations that may affect performance, are there. That way problem solving is always preventive, minimal communication, work done. One on one meetings not needed.

[@jayd6372]

I guess this video is four years old now, but the Gen-Z that are starting to join the work place, from a Gen-x point of view, are pretty damn all right. Those kids are awesome, they'll google shit they don't know before asking for help, really put the effort in to figure it out. Some of them will actually put the notes in their phones.

[@chitownshank3164]

Yeah. I've trained 3 gen Z kids in welding and fabrication with minimal guidance and supervision. Sure they were annoying lol but they learned and worked. Now all 3 are 22-24 years old and bought their first house.

[@Christy.1]

I prefer dealing with the gen z kids. The only annoying thing is the constant phones/ear buds. They listen to you and heed your advice. They're more "real" and they don't have that I'm a victim mentality like the millennials do. They just get it.

[@chitownshank3164]

@@Christy.1 yup.

[@chitownshank3164]

@@Christy.1 This kid was arguing with his gf through his earbuds but he kept building his part through out the ordeal.

[@PanduPoluan]

​@@chitownshank3164heh. So in a way, Gen Z is just an always-connected Gen X. I find that endearing and also restoring my faith in the future of humanity.

[@bencrawshaw1227]

The boomers screwed things up. The attempt to blame generation X for the mistakes of the boomers is pathetic.

[@marcmonnerat4850]

So basically, the generations that are quickest to proclaim themselves as open to others and reactive to change are unable to interact with GenX who are a little distant? Strange.

[@rainybeet]

And of three generations, the one that does not need their hand held and wants to get the job done first and foremost is the one that needs to change to be more like the other two. What we really need are two meetings each day... one to let everyone know how everyone else's job is going, and one to pat everyone on the head, tell them what good boys and girls they are, and give them a lollipop.

[@lorasaltis4134]

Yuck, this is why I quit working for large corporations and started independent consulting. "Teamwork" means not getting credit for your own work and your success being dependent on others. I took my expertise and sold it at a very high hourly rate. Am I producing results for you? Then keep paying me by the hour for every hour. Is the job done? Not happy? Then, tell me not to come back and I'll be on my way. I made a lot of money this way. Bought some pretty acres of land and built a cute house. Now, I run a small private dog daycare business there. I take care of about 15 dogs a day and I have a wait list, 12 clients deep who want to send their dogs here if ever there is room for them. I usually have one or two part time people helping me out, but I am small enough to do the work myself if need be. Life is sweet. Of course, I'm Gen X.

[@myfavoriteplanet3247]

Gen X knows that working for corporations is bs. Corporate sucks, f**k corporate soul sucking companies.

[@waynethompson1115]

Gen x here. During a discussion on pay, the big wig told us that we chose to live where we did and that's why the pay was what it was. I had to correct him that it wasn't a matter of where I chose to live, it was a matter of I chose to work for you. 10 % raise after that plus profit sharing.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

Why I’m retired at age 45 🔥❤️‍🔥 Enjoying Life. Gen. X Rules My meetings are private now 🥃🤣

[@r.o2938]

It didn't start in the workplace for us Xers. We had idiot hippie dippy Boomer teachers who made us do group projects where we were supposed to "dialogue" (they LOVE that word) with our fellow group members. Any hope I ever had of being a team player was killed by that. The hardest worker does the whole damn thing and everyone else gets credit for it. No thank you.

[@Christy.1]

Very good point. That's what's going on with me and my woke liberal company. I'm the hard worker, and it's physical work. And I'm a broken down 51 year old female. I've been getting pissed off more and more, and now I"m at the point of refusing to do jobs and calling them out on holding me to a higher standard then their regular (mainly younger) workers. They just turn it around that I have a bad attitude, and I"m guessing that's why I can't get promoted.

[@peterberg3446]

THIS. THIS RIGHT HERE.

[@jaywalking17]

Quiet Quitting. Look into it. The lazy, ass-kissing, incompetent ones sadly reap the rewards. @@Christy.1

[@lordmegatron8444]

​@@Christy.1Sounds like you work for Target.

[@christopherross8358]

This is like watching a former quarterback managing a Blockbuster talk about the importance of Hurahh meetings. 🐕🍩🥇⛳📈📌 BTW - you can thank us Gen X'rs for the internet. You're Welcome. 💋

[@scottonanski4173]

Nonsense. You show up, do your job, and leave your personal crap at home. If you can't do your job, then go work somewhere else. No one owes you anything other than a pay cheque at the end of the week. Sincerely, Generation X

[@andreaburns1198]

As a gen x,what’s wrong with going to work do the job and go home,I hate when someone is watching me do my job or even talking to me,I don’t need baby sat,and I don’t need a pat on the head someone telling me I’m doing a good job,I know I’m doing a good job,shit I still have a job.

[@aquarius5719]

Only slackers could watch you. They need more workload for themselves.

[@wademcginnis9361]

I am a gen x employer my philosophy is buck up butter cup your mommy doesn't work here

[@aquarius5719]

There are 3 elements that bring low performance: * Employee does not WANT. Attitude problem. * Employee does not KNOW. Training needed. I know how to explain astrodynamics to a primary school kid, and I am not exaggerating. I am plain good at teaching. * Employee CANNOT. Resource problem or expertise needed. So I implement a plan to upskill or logistics to deliver required resources. The astrodynamics for kids was a spare time project at a local school that attracted local TV news as it was education innovation. It turned astrodynamics into a game. One parent came to me and said he would have studied engineering if he had been through the workshop for these kids. To me a task at work should be fun. I managed toake these kids to turn astrodynamics into a game. BS stops when people are having fun.

[@robmarino314]

As Gen Xer, I don't ever want to go to another team meeting.

[@joannatassin3238]

oh no... you just described ME to a T! I really couldn't care less about my coworkers, I'm here to do a job. I want to do my work independently!!!

[@publicpitchblendeorg]

Dude! Teams are what SUCKED as a successful developer. Cleaning up after less skilled/talented co-workers, bosses who freaked if you wrote code they didn't understand, and underlings after your job.

[@fdme33]

bloomers and millennials need helicopter managers. X is a lone wolf.

[@monsterhobbiesonlinestore]

X can do it all by themselves. Why do X's need a team? :D

[@thepaperdragon1951]

master po the worst for me (‘69) x’er is the cooperative learning crap shoved on me in collage. I’m like...really? I don’t do Cooperative learning! I do it on my own.

[@monsterhobbiesonlinestore]

@@thepaperdragon1951 Standing on your own two feet and ringing on your own bells?

[@canislatrans8285]

I'm a Wurlitzer theater organ. I don't need a bunch of people to be an orchestra!

[@lisavanhouten4981]

I'm Gen X and here's what confuses me about Gen Z at my workplace. Everyone talks about how social they are, yet you get two of them in a room and they don't talk. They just put ear buds in (or not) and go on their phones...they barely look up from their phones to even speak to each other three feet away. Almost impossible to have a conversation with them because its so obvious they don't want to actually ...talk...to you...they just want to be on their phones during any second of downtime they get. I've given up at this point....

[@bigcali173]

That’s because they do most of their talking by texting, sending emoji’s, memes, and off the wall pictures. Me, I just literally laugh out loud. Gen Z, they use words and characters to do the laughing for them.

[@lynntaylor9681]

I'm Gen X but I don't like to talk myself so those Gen Zers you were talking about sound normal to me. I prefer texting to talking to people in real life myself.

[@bigcali173]

@@lynntaylor9681 That’s called being an introvert. It’s not that you don’t like to talk, it’s probably more like you like to talk to certain people and even then it’s more of a one on one thing. Talking to people constantly is draining. You’d rather engage in controlled conversation such as text because let’s face it, you can cut off communication instantly and not seem rude 🤣😂😂 I am an introvert also and every engagement I’m in is controlled to a degree. I’m also a Gen xer , my ability to team up, speak up, or be self motivated is awesome. Especially when it’s time to put the work in with no shortcuts. I could be wrong about you. But it sounds close

[@imogenskyeart]

Keep in mind that this generation is only now entering the workforce and at a junior level. The youngest gen Z are around 14. They have been bombarded by attention-seeking social media of every type that exists and they understand their need to economise and carefully distribute their attention. It is their currency. If you just want to chat, you have to earn that place with them because there are thousands or more people to whom they have access who also want to tell them something. If you care about them, give them real strategies, help them not waste their time or energy with efficiency tips, and above all be radically honest with them (they have built-in bs detectors). Eventually, just maybe, they will consider what you want to say to them worth their time, and maybe, long after they've decided you're not just scamming attention from them, they may even approach you to share time and attention mutually. They are surrounded in the digital world by "influencers" of every kind; nobody has special status to them. If you want to socialise with them, you have to earn it.

[@laidbackbeau]

@@bigcali173 I'm Gen X and an introvert. I prefer texting or emailing, because I can say what I want to say in its entirety without someone talking over me, changing the subject, or ignoring me completely.

[@rebekah.2187]

"My boss never comes to check on me. He never asks me how I'm doing?" I just can't stop laughing at this. He's your boss, not your mommy. And the boomers can't figure things out and go to the boss to ask questions now and then? The need a 20-minute meeting for, "Here, do this?" It sounds like the problem is that Gen X is trapped between two generations that need someone to hold their hands to get anything done. Bosses should only care about you, personally, when you need to take a vacation, and any family emergencies that might cause you to need time off, a schedule change, or to work from home. That's it. Edit: Gen X cares about their fellow human beings. They just don't need all the details.

[@vivianraw]

I've heard these generational labels thrown around but until today, August 1, 2022, I never bothered to look up what they meant or their characteristics. Found out I'm labeled a Gen X-er. I'm not big on labels but it seems that I'm fitting the description. Also, I'm loving the comment section so far.

[@halinadoncaster8686]

We are indeed awesome!

[@Dobviews]

So in other words it is our fault for excelling at "Figure it the fuck out on your own". Got it.

[@davemiller6055]

Reaffirming, giving praise, consensus. These are foreign ideas to Gen X. We don't need it. We don't want it. We want to do our job and go home. Tell us what to do and get out of our way. If we need help we'll come find you.

[@Xikatt]

So good to read comments that say exactly what I'm thinking & feeling!

[@somebloke3869]

My best ever boss got so much more out of this genX because she told me what needed to ve done, showed me the tools to do what needed to be done then left me the flock alone to do my job. No time wasted on team meetings and no hand holding. That workplace still uses some of the practices i implemented because I was given the freedom to do my job the best way i saw fit without micromanaging.

[@Single_moms_suck_at_life]

What I wonder about other gen X ers though.... I can get behind rights for everyone, but this victim mentality and conformity that we see nowadays really confused the hell out of me? Is anyone else floored with what the media has people believing now? Is it because I'm a gen x or more related to my own demons?

[@Single_moms_suck_at_life]

@TerraTN yeah, but who are we to say whats a conspiracy theory? Think back to WMD in Iraq, the covington kids, aspartame, doctors in cigarette ads, witch trials, etc. Science is whatever the powers that be can convince the masses of today. The question(in my mind) is whether you have the gumption to ask questions and discern the truth despite all the npcs calling you a moron.

[@montana-road-kill-harvest]

Damnit. I'm with my X generation. I don't want to know and be bogged down by all the drama. JUST DO THE THING! sigh.

[@jimmulone2422]

I am a gen xer. I really do it want all that “affirmation”. Just let me come to work do my job and collect my pay. I don’t need a thousand “thank you’s “. And so here it is the start of why Gen X is the problem. We were left to our own devices growing up and that’s how we entered the work place and that is how we will run the work place. All this BS coddling can be left at the door. You don’t go to work to make friends you go to work to make a paycheck to pay bills and hopefully maybe you can make a bit extra to invest or use for the future.

[@BigDaddyJinx]

As a Gen X and as a leader type, we are expecting that we are working with adults who don't require hand-holding and constant supervision (see: micro-managing). A workplace functions best when there is collaboration, yes, but AS NEEDED. Not a weekly meeting to listen to each other breathe and finding things to talk about. Of course this varies occupation to occupation. We had a weekly meeting that was to do with safety for the week to come and then to address what happened in the past week briefly, and what's on deck for this week as far as projects or upcoming things people needed to know about. Then that because a "touch base" meeting weekly as well. where we got together to discuss feelings, to sum it up. There's a meeting we didn't need to have unless there was a matter that was brought up to management that needed to be addressed. A weekly meeting for it though? Nah. And then meetings about this. And meetings about that. And a monthly meeting about this. And a quarterly meeting about that. TOO MANY MEETINGS. These are time-vacuums. Most all of the discussions that were had could've been handled with an email. Send one - include a read-receipt. Done. Boomers liked meetings because they were unofficial breaks. Millennials and Gen Z like breaks because of the same reason BUT also that it involves a lot of hand-holding and "You're doing a good job!" remarks. That's not how a business is run. A business is only as good as the people working there, but if all we're doing is going from one meeting to the next, what are we really accomplishing? Not much. People forget we still have a business to run. A team to operate. Boomers and Millennials/Gen Z seem to keep forgetting that. If leaders are always in meetings, what are we accomplishing for YOU? Nothing. We're not able to deal with you because we're in one meeting after another. Then you feel like you're ignored or we don't care about you...which is false. There's only so much time in a day and with everyone insisting on meetings, this is where our time is spent. We can't take all those meetings AND have time for YOU too. The world needs LESS meetings not MORE. That allows leaders to have more time to handle people at a 1:1 level. Proper leadership. If something is truly important and can't be resolved with an email, then a meeting will be scheduled. Otherwise, no. They still want that world where it's a meeting about a meeting about a white paper study about a meeting about a meeting to discuss the next meeting about the meeting before. You can still have a fully functioning fully capable and fully locked-in team WITHOUT weekly meetings. You only need a leader who is capable of providing that opportunity to have 1:1 time with their subordinates and that can't be done with meetings after meetings.

[@aquarius5719]

Meetings should have an agenda of topics. Any additional topic must be solved before topics in the agenda. Each topic is communicated in advance to those responsible and instructions about what is needed will come too. The meeting should not exceed 15 mins. Topics that could be addressed privately vía text with stakeholders will not be in that meeting.

[@keybored67]

do the job, get my pay, pay my bills.....thats it thats all

[@t-squared6406]

that's right

[@keyratcane66]

Absolutely! Let me do my job and go home.

[@aquarius5719]

Mission accomplished, go home. Is that so hard to understand?

[@Hey_Blinkin]

Nope, we won't conform. And just like we had to conform to your management style it's your turn to adapt. Get with it, or find a new job. You're there to work.

[@augustcanyon3438]

NIcely said! I'm tired of conforming to weakness

[@Golfzilla70]

I'm sure there's more to this speech than what this 3 minute vid showed that would add some context, but man it sounds like everyone around the Gen X manager needs to have their hand held to get a job done. I've been in an office environment since 1993, and i've NEVER heard that we don't have enough meetings -- it's usually the opposite ! But the narrator does bring up an interesting point. While chiding Gen X because they're not like the generation before them or the generation after them (like that means the boomers and the millennials must be right since it's 2 against 1), by default he seems to have confirmed that they're both on the same page, which is obviously different than your standard Gen X'er (certainly true if just a small sampling of this message board for the vid is any indication). One could easily conclude this probably goes a LONG way in explaining how we got to where we are in our current political environment. Our generation just doesn't have enough votes for common sense to get the same say in things that it maybe once did. And i'm not singling out an individual political party here, neither one of the big two seem to be able to ever put their best foot forward anymore.

[@user-vb5vj2gq7z]

Most meetings are ineffective, unless they are project status meetings or customer meetings (schmooze sessions). In my experience, most meetings turn into people talking about themselves and their personal lives, which is none of my business and is consuming valuable time. Edit: Gen X people are problem solvers with solid work ethics, typically.

[@AUDIOSWAMP]

As a Gen X manager I have transitioned into a role of grooming a few employees to be my replacement , we are not insecure and have no problem passing on the knowledge and wisdom of getting things done !! I see great things in their generation’s future if we can pass on some of our traits !! Stay strong Everyone !!

[@BigDaddyJinx]

A hallmark of a true leader is their ability and desire to BE replaced. To have built a team so good and so locked-in that someone, somewhere will WANT to be in your role. They will AIM for your chair. They WANT your position. Thy WANT that responsibility. I have long maintained that as a leader it would be my finest hour to have someone come into my office and tell me that they could do my role and that they want my role and this is how they intend to do it. A true leader isn't afraid of someone stealing their job, or doing it better than they can. Nah. That's EXACTLY what you want as a leader. To have had a hand in shaping someone to the point where they COULD replace you, and effectively too. A boss or a manager would be afraid of being showed up, absolutely. A leader would invite it. That's how you know who you're working for. Bosses boss people. Managers manage people. Leaders lead people. Who do you want to work for? Who do you want to be to your people?

[@PanduPoluan]

Interestingly, I noticed that my cohort Xers are more willing to share, to teach, to "pass on the torch", compared to BB and Y.

[@TROOPERfarcry]

There's a pretty thin line between "We-need-to-be-on-the-same-page" and "I-need-to-be-VALIDATED." A lot of this is the need for validation. *Validate **_yourself._* If you have a question about expectations, then *ASK.* Stop waiting for someone to come up to you and _TELL_ you. They expect YOU to manage yourself, in the same way that you expect pay-roll to provide a paycheck.

[@gregbenwell6173]

As a Gen X person myself, A LOT of the problems I faced was always with Millennial Team Leaders who thought they were first "smarter than everybody else in the room" and would fail to solve problems or take responsibility for their own behaviors or actions!! OR you'd have the old timer, who would tell you one thing, THEN REPORT YOU for doing the thing they told you to do!! Basically you get to a point where you have TWO SIDES that neither are listening to a word you actually SAID, and place ALL THE BLAME ON YOU, even when you already know how to fix the problem OR where to find at least the solution!!! Basically at that point you begin questioning who the boss actually IS!! The pimply college kid, who doesn't know what a 9/16" wrench is, or the corrupt old man who is upset YOU got hired and not his 20 year old criminal son!! Another problem that we face is the politics of the office, too, where you have the bosses pet, be it the girl that he is sleeping with, OR one of his golfing buddies, always get the credit, while the Gen X person does all the work, and keeps everything running smoothly without a lot of "management"!!! THEN we are passed over for raises, and promotions and expected to "keep our heads to the grindstone" while everybody else reaps the rewards of OUR WORK!! Further and going back to the "who's the boss?" thing too, I have to add that a lot of companies NOW have team leaders that know NOTHING about actual "team work"!! Many of us in the GEN X were taught to me logical, self sufficient, lone wolf type workers who just want to "come to work, do our job, and go home at night"!! BUT too often we are paired up in "teams" with people who can't be trusted at all as well!! I had an "old timer boss" at one company I worked at, and every morning and afternoon, I'd give him a "status report" about what my department was doing!! THEN they gave me two more younger people in my department, who suddenly began back stabbing me every chance they could!! My boss was a great guy though and didn't buy into the stories he was being told!! So one day I "fixed their wagon" and sudden on Tuesday morning I decided to take the rest of the week off!!! My boss laughed when I showed up Monday morning the next week, that my whole department failed without me there!! And the one guy quit three days after I returned back from vacation!!!!

[@aquarius5719]

We go to work to earn our salary, not to get credited. If someone wants to take credit for my work they better learn to do it in case I am not there to help. If they play blame games, they better be ready for my departure because I will not help those who blame me unfairly. So basically if I am the problem, I leave and problem is solved. If I am not the problem, I leave and they have two problems. The problem they had and the problem that I will not be there to help.

[@ThuongNguyen-yw4pf]

Meeting is a waste of time, we can talk all in The meeting but as soon as everyone walk out the door...Noone follow up, boomer call the meeting, talk about teamwork,, Millennial complaint and crying for help, Gen X just nodding head and get things done. Oh Yeah...X-ers doing the work and all others are the team....that how the definition of teamwork nowadays 👏

[@TheQueenIsWithin]

True. They sit and gossip whole day and complain and drag you down. That's why I'm studying coding to just get away from that.

[@scottgeorge5357]

As an Xer, I loved my parents very much but they relied on me to figure things out for THEM. It was always very bothersome and I had to stay out past street light time to avoid getting caught-up in their problems. We were also a generation of Smart Asses When I would get home late, "Where have you been" was a common question. "Out" was my Smart-Ass answer. It's 10:00 do you know where your parents are? Answer: Who cares, we got it handled.....

[@dmurphy1578]

I had a gen x principal. We were a month apart age wise. I had to tell the wemon that with her no news was good news. If she’s cool with you she will leave you alone. If she talking to you every day you have a problem.

[@benjaminburkett9962]

So, what you are saying is you have to coddle these people 🤔!!! They aren't grown adults and know how to do their jobs?

[@jpii8468]

Dave Chappelle? Gen X. Elon Musk? Gen X. Need I say more?

[@anikadiamond007]

Inventors of Google, KZbin, social media, basically everything online . Gen x.

[@chadglass7705]

I'm Gen X and can be on a team as most of my work requires it. But I'm not into sharing personal things with the team. I can do well with one to one talking but not the whole team. I find sharing with the "team" silly and unnecessary

[@squidward66]

Clearly, the point is only us Gen X'ers deserve to be hired. Don't waste time with the needy whiners. Goodness sakes, it's WORK people!

[@kimberlee2809]

I want people to do their jobs. You're getting paid so be a self starter. I never needed a Boomer or Silent Generation manager at work to motivate me or reinforce my worth. The promotions did that.

[@stephanies3246]

Haven’t you heard? We’re the new Silent Generation. We keep our heads down and plow through. Without any drama or whining.

[@aquarius5719]

To me the best promotion is to move to another job that pays more

[@fredblake6135]

A team is not those who you work with, it is those whom you trust. I've got some colleagues that work to solve problems when they happen and others that try to make themselves feel self-important by undermining everyone else. The ones that are trusted are the most respected.

[@WJFK480]

If you're a good manager, you know that just because you may want to be left alone most of the time, that doesn't mean everyone is just like you and even us gen xers enjoy being acknowledged now and then. It's one thing to coddle employees to death, and another to respect, acknowledge and be available to them.

[@BigDaddyJinx]

Which is impossible to do when we, as your leaders, are saddled to meeting after meeting after meeting. Most all of which could be scrapped outright or handled by a simple email communication. People seem to forget that right quick. Your leaders WANT to be available but everyone wants meetings.

[@Tmlatyoutube]

I am an X-er. We hate control, suppression and restriction, we don't impose these things on our employees. We just expect them to get the job done as they promised they would when they were hired. From my experience, meetings are just a Gen Y and Z excuse to socialise. If we have to babysit them, then why do we employ them. They make our job hard. We don't want employees that make more work for us. We have employees to get work done. We look for innovative and open thinkers. We expect people to be skilled and do their job. If you are a Gen X Manager YOU MUST HIRE A TEAM THAT GOES TO WORK TO WORK. For non Gen X workers; your workplace is not your home, your social group or your counsellor office. If you are working for a Gen X Manager remember that we like workers with high levels of self efficacy. We are not your emotional support carers. Do your damn job. In return we will give you trust and freedom to excel.

[@Pduarte79]

Poor little Millennials/Gen Z lolo, how they solve things, by B*, moaning and whining, while Gen Xers know that's pointless and fruitless. And millennials and gen Z aren't team players, but Me-players, that destroys any team dynamics. Boomers meetings are mere ego boosters, or a way to make others good ideas and plans, and make their own, without a "sorry" or "thanks". Boomers aren't creative at all, they use those "Please, someone think or have an idea for me" meetings, disguised as "team" meeting.

[@SoulSoundMuisc]

I am a GM that manages night operations. So, third shifters. Part of being third shift (i consider it one of the major perks) is lack of management. No one is breathing down your neck, nobody is bothering you. My team of Millennial and Gen Z embraces this... mostly. I have a young man that wants everything to be standardized and done by wrote policy. I told him that i dont give a rip *how* the job gets done, as long as its done and done right, to its completion. Im not here to micro manage. Ill come down like a thunderbolt if someone does something idiotic, and ill rush like superman to assist a guy with a troublesome or dangerous task. I expect my crew to otherwise manage *themselves* in their tasks. Micro management is for the soft skulled and smooth brained. Im present. Im visible. I train, teach, tutor, and manage them over all, bit im not their mommy.

[@aquarius5719]

I am afraid that the guy asking to document the process is right. Business Continuity Plan BCP is key. One of the problems why Apollo rocket engines and N1 rocket engines are not used is because engineers failed to document changes to fix issues. So if you go with the blueprints, engines will explode. Engineers retired or died.

[@Mr360cuda]

GenXers are a different breed. We had to learn how to do things without much assistance. Our parents were primarily hands off, until we got into trouble. So our management skills are different. The claim that we don’t hold meetings is bogus. It’s just not necessary to have endless meetings to stroke someone’s ego or make them feel good! And as for millennials. Put on your big boy pants and stop whining!

[@davidguthrie5941]

That's exactly why I left the corporate world and work alone. All sides are happier.

[@boondocksaint253]

As a gen x, I heard this as “boomers and millennials need their hands held, and can’t work independently.” Gen x make the best garbage men, we are used to carrying trash.

[@pmmackenzie1525]

Gen X best X

[@hittingthewall]

If I were to take a guess, I would say a truckload of Xers have a real hate-on for the word "team" for reasons that go back to being latchkey kids of divorced parents who were never around. I know it's one of my most hated words in the English language.

[@Pduarte79]

Team is an unknown concept to us, and most of the times, was complete BS. Argue alot, to simply go nowhere. And most are lone wolves by default, do they work, without a fuss. While boomers/millennials/Z talk alot, work even less and like to take their family/personal issues and problems to work. Expecting others to pity them or to solve them, that's cringy for a Gen Xer.

[@dredgewalker]

Glad I work in the jewelry industry, no need for team work cause you just had to hand me what you want to be made and ai just do it and get paid. I don't dislike teamwork but when you need a group to get things done then you're simply weak. People who are strong love independence.

[@mattmccain8492]

Exactly. Can't stand that word either. We couldn't depend on others back then. We did things ourselves.

[@XValothBranstrommerX]

The reason we decided to be invisible is because the world doesn't work for or with us. We knew that before you opened your yap, but thanks for proving us right. 👍

[@nuinidoberg1902]

As a Gen Xer and a manager, I am sitting in my office listening to my workers work out in the shop area. I do not micro manage them. I don't like people hovering over the top of me so why would I do that to them. They know their job and know howto get things done.

[@jamesslick4790]

Gen Xer here. I genuinely DON'T CARE about my co-workers' weekends, kids, dogs or ANYTHING else. If it's not DIRECTLY related to my job. I don't care. Well, OK I care if it's about cars or motorcycles...

[@concernedparty1148]

Smells like Team Spirit!

[@keyratcane66]

Laugh out loud

[@lorasaltis4134]

Whatever. lol

[@stephss]

Good leadership is not generational...it's like saying good communication is. I've had leaders (and been one) may times in my life, and this perception that boomers had it all right...is incorrect (imo.)

[@TheAwetist802]

Yep, more self-congratulatory bullshit from the Boomers. We've been hearing all of our lives how awesome they think they are and, frankly, I'm sick of it. Be quiet for a change and step aside, Boomers. Your time has long since been over.

[@Nine28457]

Meh. I’m a Gen X manager. Not only did my branch score in the top 3 branches, we received accolades year after year - top branch, top team, top leader. In addition, I had the highest number of employees who were hired and then promoted in the company, compared to anyone else. This mean I was always training new people, but that’s ok. I cross trained everyone to be able to handle all customer concerns. That’s me. Good, decent managers can be found in every generation. Separating them by generation is a gimmick staged by outside consultants to get money for doing nothing.

[@bretteumont657]

Companies today think that they have to teach morality. Screw that just give my work and let me do my job. Not the company’s job to teach morality

[@christopherross8358]

Me with none Gen X: God, just watch a damn youtube video and get it done! Boomer Response: Could you just make it for me? You really know how to get things and and your the smartest person I know. Gen M Response: I don't like how I feel about myself when you are constantly challenging me to improve myself. Gen Z Response: Ow I saw that video, it was great - I found 30 more just like it, want me to forward you a list... ❤ Z's

[@publicpitchblendeorg]

I didn't say SHIT at team meetings.... My code was in the repository ... Look there

[@jackgeary6928]

Boo hoo boomers and millennials that gen x don’t hold their hands every step of of the way. Once again everyone looks to gen x to change for everyone else. As a gen X boss, I constantly tell my people that “help is NOT on the way” and we need to figure things out ourselves. Except for other gen Xers, all I ever get is deer in the headlights expressions. I expect more than mediocrity.

[@jackfrost295]

What a cultist perspective. Everyone else can stay the same needy whiny people, but the person who is most task oriented and probably most productive has to change to accommodate them. This is a road that leads to doom. The more you coddle and hand hold, the more these groups demand. Eventually you end up with an unprofessional low productivity team who has great engagement scores. Then your company fails.

[@daveleo78]

As a late Gen X, or one of the things that I keep getting told that I hate is that we are “family”. And you have to just smile and nod your head because otherwise you’re gonna tell them that you don’t need your family. I have one of my own at home. This was couple months before my job was liquidated when they needed to save money so the CEO could continue to get his bonuses. Don’t tell me I’m family. You’re a paycheck & benefits. Now get out of my way and let me do my job.

[@habituallinestepper8839]

Team generation X

[@FunWithScienceJAshmead]

I hate having to coddle anybody, if you are an adult and are being paid to work here, do your freakin job. I will teach you the job, I will expect questions occasionally, but I hate meetings that waste time and productivity. I am an extrovert and would rather not talk about myself unless we have known each other for several years. The fact that you still have a job, are getting yearly raises, and that I DON'T have to have meetings with you means you are doing a good job. There is the door if you need constant praise, I have actual work to do.

[@carpetsnake83]

Generation x are competent independent and self reliant Like football players Every player has their role every player has a job to do If every one does their job we will move the chains There never needs to be team meetings only section meetings with those who roles are related Eg offensive coordinator offensive team no need for the defensive or special teams to be involved It’s called compartmentalised How ever if you are the head coach you need to be at all meetings present and available If not then you aren’t delegating Know boomers and millennials get with the fucking program You can’t do your job I’ll find someone else

[@Tommy1977777]

He keeps thinking there is a "team". You cant have a team unless you have something to motivate people to work as one. This means some kind of reward/interest. None of that materializes in corporate america.

[@boxonothing4087]

boomer = I don't know what to do if you don't point it out to me, I'm nothing if not part of something millenial = I can't do shit if you don't hold my hand, I need to be told I'm not useless Jones/GenX = Do your fucking job. I'm not your mom Be fair, accessible, but draw boundaries. Anyone whose hand you need to hold, that's someone you can't count on. Every minute you use your hands to hold someone else's, you don't use them to do your work. I've been in those "meetings" for long enough. They're spaces for people to complain. When you know you're doing a good job, you don't need to be told you do. That's what kids need. Draw boundaries, don't let your work be devaluated, but don't expect praise for simply being adequate. You don't have to be friends with your coworkers, nor to be a substitute parent. Be fair, don't be a jerk. Keep your door open and listen. Meetings should only be held when there's a specific need/situation to be addressed. Your boss/team leader isn't there to pat your back and tell you you've been a good kid. Heck, I'm not even a "real" Xer, I'm a Jones. I sometimes think we were the best generation. We had discipline, but didn't let habits and "tradition" shackle us. We didn't fall apart when we failed, and above all, we weren't afraid of failure.

[@BattleGn0me]

Or I could just get rid of my whiney Boomer/coddled milleneal team and just hire self starting, goal focused Gen Xers

[@TacShooter]

John Cusack in Grosse Pointe Blank (ducking behind cover): "Will there be meetings?" Dan Akroyd (also ducking behind cover, trying to form a merger): "Yesss." John Cusack: "No Meetings!" (shoots back)

[@soeffner6833]

And this coddling bs is why gen x are the biggest group of entrepreneurs. The problem with 'corporate culture' is the belief you can manufacture friendship and commeraderie. If that isnt organic it doesnt work. Focus on manufacturing your product and let social interaction happen naturally.

[@Barking_Schnauzer]

This just confirms to me that neither boomers, nor millenials have ever grown up to be normal adults. Geez, just learn to do some stuff on your own without being told everything. And yes, I'm Gen X and I find this inability of actual adults to work without these nonstop 'on the same page meetings' absolutely laughable.

[@rainybeet]

Gen Xrs feel like everyone should show up and do their job well without having to be micromanaged with constant input from everyone (Boomers) and without needing constant external validation (Millenials). Gen X spent most of their careers mentally making a "let's get on with it" motion in their heads at beating because everyone was taking turns reiterating information thar everyone had already been given at the previous 20 meetings. You would have hour long meetings with 1 minute of useful information that was seriously cutting into actually getting work done! "Your team is falling apart!" Yeah, because the people older than me and the people younger than me can't seem to do their freaking job without having their hands held!

[@NOLAgenX]

Former military officers and NCO’s that are GenX already know this and carry those “musts” over to the civilian workplace, because those are leadership facets trained into them.

[@timothyblazer1749]

Too bad. We're in charge. We'll run it the way we like. If it doesn't work, the company will lose money. I manage exclusively millennial people. They LOVE the fact that socializing is OPTIONAL. Upper management tells me it's the most efficient they have ever seen my Department. I have had precisely one complaint about this, from my subordinates, and i spoke with her about it for two hours, listening mostly. Resolved it with perhaps 10 minutes of conversation where i committed to one accomodation. Done. I do not buy this line. It's a recipe for bad performance.