Genius or Madness? The Psychology of Creativity - Professor Glenn D. Wilson

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Gresham College

Gresham College

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"Great wits are sure to madness near allied, and thin partitions do their bounds divide" (Dryden)
There often seems to be a link between creativity and mental illness. Many great poets, playwrights, artists and composers suffered from depression, alcoholism, obsessionality, bipolar or psychotic disorders at some time in their lives. How strong is the link and what might account for it? Are these disorders beneficial to the creative process or a drawback that must be overcome?
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@waynedombrowski7568
@waynedombrowski7568 7 жыл бұрын
You're a "kook"until you succeed,then you're"eccentric".
@spacepunk_nappy
@spacepunk_nappy 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a poor,eccentric,creative kook.....I consider myself fortunate....
@159tony
@159tony 10 жыл бұрын
I don't like it when they say that Tesla rivaled Edison as an inventor. Edison wasn't an inventor, he was a business man that had a bunch of other people doing the inventing for him and he run along to get the patent for it if it meant a decent profit. Edison was a "suit", a business man. Tesla was an innovator, a scientist and an inventor.
@Mikelovision
@Mikelovision 9 жыл бұрын
John Blood Wrong, Edison was an inventor. Yes, a lot of his ideas were improvements on older ideas but he did in fact invent a lot of things, like it or not. I own tons of books on Tesla and Edison. What happened to Tesla is tragic but you can't take away Edison's brilliant innovative mind and his inventions in the process.
@Rubin_Schmidt
@Rubin_Schmidt 8 жыл бұрын
+Sean McCleaver Marconi was another J.P Morgan prodigy. The telegram from the Titanic was received by the Olympic, which was heading out of New York, and relayed to the Marconi International M. Watergate House, York Building (Form No. 4-100-17.8.10.) Just saying. !!!
@Mikelovision
@Mikelovision 8 жыл бұрын
Sean McCleaver Yes, Edison did hire a lot of talented and skillful people. He didn't steal from each and every person that has ever worked with him. If that were true, he could've easily took credit for every invention that was ever made by an employee of his but that's not the case. For instance, we know the names of the "Muckers" that worked with Edison. Edison, a lot of times, would have an idea and an execution for that idea. His "Muckers" would work on that idea and sometimes improve on his original idea. That's why took most of the credit. He was the one that came up with the idea and the execution of that idea MOST of the time. Hence, comparing Edison to Telsa is unnecessary. Why can't we just celebrate both of these great men and call it a day?
@Mikelovision
@Mikelovision 8 жыл бұрын
Sean McCleaver That's not true. Edison didn't care about money at first. His first patent was for the electric vote recorder didn't sell. He was upset because he felt like the government would benefit by having it. From that day forward, he focused more on inventions that would bring monetary gain. He was poor at that time so money was something he needed. Tesla definitely had a good heart but he lacked the business sense that Edison had. Tesla is my third favorite scientist after Newton and Faraday. Business sucks. I think what Edison did to Tesla there was wrong but then again we will never know the full story. The fact that you can view videos or hear music from your recording device is due to the labor of Edison. If you don't feel he's celebratory, don't record anything, listen to anything, or watch anything ever again. Lol.
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 7 жыл бұрын
John Blood No you can't alter LONG debated ciphers you made into quotients of marriages like this reused too that which you do not know is man or machine where such is used semantically too you?
@mindassassin
@mindassassin 10 жыл бұрын
My take: For every stroke of genius there is a stroke of insanity. An equal and opposite reaction.
@lordnelsonmc.billionberg9166
@lordnelsonmc.billionberg9166 4 жыл бұрын
False. One has a torch the other one stands in flames. Both have fire. Normal people don't.
@0live0wire0
@0live0wire0 10 жыл бұрын
I love how the comment section is flooded with omniscient genius. Oh exalted ones, have pity on the poor unenlightened professor, he meant no harm.
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen Dedalus harmonic surrealism maybe?
@Brandon-tk2rw
@Brandon-tk2rw 3 жыл бұрын
Academia is full of hacks who simply regurgitate the thoughts of others. I seriously doubt that this guy has ever had an original thought in his head. But I'm sure he's great at campus politics.
@guitarmusic524
@guitarmusic524 9 жыл бұрын
I love this guy: "...it may help to be slightly mad - not too mad." Yep
@bunkeraudiopanama792
@bunkeraudiopanama792 8 жыл бұрын
So... The thin line between genius and madness would be... Awareness!!!
@JosueHernandez-nj9bc
@JosueHernandez-nj9bc 4 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly it only way to stay sain or youll go insane
@williammaldonado6132
@williammaldonado6132 3 жыл бұрын
I Think so! 🤙
@FloraJoannaK
@FloraJoannaK 4 жыл бұрын
Trauma is useful for writing, yes. But the art takes immense discipline, and a certain ability to self-reflect and shape experience to allegory, or something else. Having it rough and being talented is not enough; one has to be able to write when one does not want to write. That is, writer's block is one thing, but there is a resistance to taking on things which are *too* personal and painful as well.
@lightbox617
@lightbox617 10 жыл бұрын
As a "creative class" individual (fine art photographer) and an ageing one at that, who is also involved in drug therapy for depression and anxiety, I found this...affirming.
@undeadpresident
@undeadpresident 7 жыл бұрын
psilocybin is pretty effective as a therapeutic drug and it's not necessary to take it regularly either
@Mintzoid
@Mintzoid 4 жыл бұрын
my art www.deviantart.com/danielmarquezart/gallery/
@DerrickthePinecone
@DerrickthePinecone 4 жыл бұрын
@derricktyson
@ciaran6309
@ciaran6309 3 жыл бұрын
No it's not. It sent alot of folks into mental hospitals..
@Moronvideos1940
@Moronvideos1940 7 жыл бұрын
Born sane into a psychopathic world ..... that sums it up
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 7 жыл бұрын
Moronvideos1940 no,blasphemous c border would lie too Jonnt Cash I walk the Line...Post Niagara There's is no back,arseholes?
@ShaeMacMillan
@ShaeMacMillan 10 жыл бұрын
I'd rather be a tortured genius than a sane simpleton. Life is more colourful than black-and-white...
@karabomothupi9759
@karabomothupi9759 3 жыл бұрын
Who's quote?
@MegaKarume
@MegaKarume 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful lecture. I truly appreciate.
@privatehobbydetective4561
@privatehobbydetective4561 4 жыл бұрын
"There is only one difference between a madman and me: I am not mad"
@SecretaryBirdable
@SecretaryBirdable 10 жыл бұрын
I love you Professor Glenn D. Wilson!
@H2Raby
@H2Raby 10 жыл бұрын
Well, I will sacrifice a moment of my time for the benefit of those who will have the privileged opportunity of beholding my correspondence. I congratulate Dr. Wilson for his rehearsal. He has made great strides over the years & I must confide, in spite of my overwhelming hunch otherwise, that with much needed perseverance & a consistent effort, there remains a glint of hope that his work may still amount to something vaguely worthy of academic recognition in the public pseudo-scientific community, in the broadest sense of the term. So I believe I speak for all, when I say we thank you for your devotion & determination, keep up the good work!
@qwertyfla
@qwertyfla 8 жыл бұрын
genius has always been defined madness.
@davidwarren1541
@davidwarren1541 9 жыл бұрын
Great couple of questions. I look forward to watching the video.
@pyconsable
@pyconsable 10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting I love what these people do.
@mypoetsky4912
@mypoetsky4912 10 жыл бұрын
Beautiful quote- beautiful mind :)
@234Monkfish
@234Monkfish 8 жыл бұрын
Great Lecture.
@dannycraps
@dannycraps 9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting presentation professor.
@jrrojas94
@jrrojas94 10 жыл бұрын
This lecture sums up many of my characteristics.
@DataWaveTaGo
@DataWaveTaGo 10 жыл бұрын
“And this is the old myth of Narcissus. The word Narcissus means narcosis, numbness and drugged; and Narcissus was drugged into thinking that that image outside himself was somebody else. Narcissus did not fall in love with his own image, he thought it was somebody else. And the same with us, in our technology and gadgetry and gimmickry and so on, we don’t think that is merely a part of our own physical organism extended out there, we’re like Narcissus, completely numb. Now when we put out a new part of ourselves, extend a new part of ourselves by technology into the environment we protect ourselves by numbing that area. The more I looked at this the more I had difficulty explaining why people ignored it.” M. McLuhan
@everbeauty356
@everbeauty356 9 жыл бұрын
"Don't look at me like I am a monster ! Frown out your one face ...but with the other"
@digitalbrain555
@digitalbrain555 9 жыл бұрын
Love the video! A.O. Trip*1
@cloudcity2012
@cloudcity2012 10 жыл бұрын
This lecture explained alot about me
@anshuaspirant1370
@anshuaspirant1370 3 жыл бұрын
What is fascinating about Tesla, his ability to create wireframes/models in his head, for which we need Softwares like Maya, Autocad, and so on and lots of training to operate them. I believe that all become possible because of his solitude and there was no access of such technologies as nowadays we solely rely on, I mean there was no plan b thus he was completely devoted to plan a (his own imagination) which has infinite potential (considering his achievements) than any preprogrammed computer application would ever have and that turned out to be a blessing in disguise for him.
@LanceWinslow
@LanceWinslow 10 жыл бұрын
Ah, the creative genius, what a wonderful topic indeed. Often, but not always, super genius does come with baggage. I run a Think Tank and I find it all so fascinating. Thankfully we have a lot of diversity of thought amongst the geniuses of the world.
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@_.-._.-._.-_.-._.-._.-_.-._.- 7 жыл бұрын
. thankful to this nice ones .
@jackchorn
@jackchorn 9 жыл бұрын
some cultures do not treat people as "different" but as gifted. These people not only do ok they thrive. I'm sure if you take your average 45 yo man and put him with the Yanomamo, he would not be seen as the efficient hard working caregiver- but possibly an obsessive-greedy egocentric. If that man insists his way is right and everyone else is wrong- well then- we get madness out of a perfectly acceptable western man.
@funfun5656
@funfun5656 9 жыл бұрын
Although this was a very thought provoking lecture I must mention an observation that comes to mind which is how broadly this man seems to define "madness". To sum up Wilson's definition of mad, anyone who perceives reality in an unconventional manner would fit this archetype. It is rather obvious that a genius wouldn't have a normal brain as normal minded people are common and are therefore not seen as scarce. If I a rather mundane person, were to be in a class of gorillas, my mind would be seen as brilliant. I must say that it could be possible however that the reason that all of these psychological "disorders" (with the exception of debilitating cases) exist is to put a bottle neck on creative thinking. It would not be functional if intellectuality were to progress faster than the mundane everyday mind could understand, accept and adapt to the new ideas and what becomes of them...Now I'm rambling but I'd like to see what internet people (even the "silly people") think about this.
@jrrojas94
@jrrojas94 10 жыл бұрын
Dali,the author of the work of art Persistence of Memory of time was a great artist. He was also part of the surrealist movement.
@RekMone
@RekMone 10 жыл бұрын
good talk. not a new dialectic. arthur koestler's "Act of Creation" is a beautiful source on creativity i highly recommend.
@lustchievous
@lustchievous 7 жыл бұрын
Reading the comments I see that most take the labels of sanity and insanity as gospel. Please do remember that this is all a construct. What is normal? What is abnormal?
@mpcc2022
@mpcc2022 6 жыл бұрын
Remona Stormborn normal is a statistical average and abnormal is anything more than 2 standard deviations to the right or left of that average which is called the mean.
@mpcc2022
@mpcc2022 6 жыл бұрын
All knowledge is a construct.
@nuggetoftruth-ericking7489
@nuggetoftruth-ericking7489 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@deirdrestewart4394
@deirdrestewart4394 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic insightful lecture !(genius and madness) love something in common both live in a different world from the one that exists for others!
@jezebel892
@jezebel892 10 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@vonkahlo
@vonkahlo 8 жыл бұрын
To creators and ones who took the time to create and post this video, I implore you to please look through my google plus page. I am one of the people you speak of but currently in it's most extreme form. I say "extreme" because almost three years ago a man tried to murder me by beating me to death. I survived but with a very traumatic brain injury. My three impact points were all central brain, two frontal and one center back. Either way, just over a year ago after not being creative since the incident (I had been massively creative already) my creativity turned back on in a way I have not seen...ever. Not to mention the way my brain is with engineering. My grandfather is an Academy award winning genius with aspergers, I have two autistic sons. One is hyperlexic and savant. The two generations of females before me are extremely gifted in almost every field they embark on. Since my brain "woke up" it hasn't stopped. I am just now starting to get a handle on it but I would really love the opportunity to speak to anyone with you that was involved with this piece. My profile photo is one of the first paintings I made after my accident. I have since made over 200. Written as many songs on over a dozen different instruments. Written maybe up to a thousand pages of complex, free-style poetry. I am doing a talent show in a few days and my act is to do all of them at one time. I have done it many times at this point. I barely even have to think about it. Beyond that? I am a crazy person it seems. I was before I got hurt and now I am in hyper drive with it. Please, if you have the opportunity and could get back to me, please do. This has been a really confusing and scary time. I would just like to understand it better. Thank you. Joshua Puckett
@FlockOfHawks
@FlockOfHawks 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating story sir . I subbed to your channel which makes a dazzling impression , like finding a soulmate in a totally different yet utterly familiar dimension . WWW = Wonderfully Weird Wealth
@bluetreeworks9870
@bluetreeworks9870 8 жыл бұрын
very interesting
@Bibi-ty1vd
@Bibi-ty1vd 4 жыл бұрын
What a selfconfidence
@lbeetlejuiceklein3101
@lbeetlejuiceklein3101 10 жыл бұрын
Ive delt with madness my whole life in my world i am happy
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 5 жыл бұрын
I am a prolific illustrator and a similarly profuse writer of poetry, songs (both music and lyrics), social commentary, and novels, simply because I must create to validate myself in a world of schedules and counter--schedules too complex to absorb. The ideas of creation pour forth, but the desire to spend my time marketing is anathema. Thus, the world has passed "failure" as a judgement on me and there is no reprieve. Compensatorily, the worse I feel the pressure of failure, the deeper I burrow into my arts; my failures in the real world are impenetrable walls behind which I create new worlds, ones in which I am a creature of power and worth. Or so I tell myself. It helps me sleep. As for the personality of a man who walks the razor's edge: My personality is an amalgam of three or four distinctive streams of consciousness, the blend of which changes rapidly, sometimes from minute to minute. This would render my mental landscape somewhat protean in any case, but Agoraphobia, Anxiety Disorder, ADHD (a very early holotype case), and mild paranoia, are malware running in the background. Never a dull moment. Some days I am intensely creative. Others, momentarily brilliant in one or another field of interest. Occasionally, I will wake up entirely well balanced and coordinated physically, like the karateka I once was. These days, when I feel like that, I dance, instead, to express my joy. Old man dancing always brings the phones out. My formative traumas forced upon me a fine appreciation for the language so, one time or another, I will clearly see a song lyric, or poem, or an oratorical gambit, or topical joke. My mind is never still, usually unfocused, but interested. My moments of extreme focus generate useful artworks free of pop culture influence. Music is a focusing regimen, a great part of my multitasking capability is invested therein. A pianist/performer is tapping his left foot, using the sustain pedal (command of the three escapes me) with his right, playing the bass and part of the rhythm with his left hand, the rest of the rhythm and the fills and melody with his right hand, all while singing, delivering commentary where needed, and creating a unique, unrepeatable, ambiance every night. That's where I shine, socially speaking. I am separate from the crowd, but part of the tapestry on which their good memories are woven. Or so I tell myself. It helps me sleep. ;-)
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 5 жыл бұрын
The toxoplasmosis is a real threat. 2/3 of the population is thought to be affected. No wonder so many people vote [Your opposing political party]! I also do stupid--literally stupid--stuff from time to time. No other reasonable vector or atypical infarction of the self preservation reflex? "Here, kitty kitty! Nice kitty!"
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 5 жыл бұрын
The atemporal irony of it all. If Dali had done album covers for Pink Floyd, much would have been right with the world.
@karlwoof1653
@karlwoof1653 10 жыл бұрын
I was entertained till you brought up the childhood treatment, devil may care comes to mind still watching though, so pain is used in childhood because they are usually incapable of expressing depression and almost always unable to god forbid suicide, looking forward to finishing this fine vid and maybe starting a discussion
@1683clifton
@1683clifton 10 жыл бұрын
I watched this.
@FrenchBasicsStream
@FrenchBasicsStream 7 жыл бұрын
I like this lecture, particularly the details on schizotypy. Depite of this that gentlemen clearly doesn't know what he is talking about regarding Asperger's syndrome. No it it not "just another way of saying they are slighlty schizotypal". Aspeger is a form of autism. It is a neuro-perceptive divergence leading to four main troubles : lesser cognitive emptahy, acute physical sensitivity (can vary from people to people, some being visually, others more auditory, sensitive, form example), organization trouble (too many perceptions), clumsiness (motor dispraxia). Some Aspergers have impressive abilities in domains implying "systemising" (music, maths, software conception etc), can produce drawings rendering details as precisely as a camera, have outstanding memory, or can sing at perfect pitch. Not all of them though. The isolated genes for autism are different from schizotypal genes.
@1life744
@1life744 10 жыл бұрын
BY THE WAY I COMMEND COMMENTARIES BY INTGRATED BEINGS THAT HAVE EYES WIDE OPEN OR ON THEIR WAY TO FIND TRUE SIGHT, REALITY...... ITS A BRIEF PEEK AT A PEAK THAT BRINGS US SIGHT
@ALTWrite
@ALTWrite 9 жыл бұрын
There is a link between genius and madness and it lies in the right ear. Our "genius" children, my father, and others I know with phenomenal memories and unusual abilities ALL suffer(ed) from audio deficits that are ear related. I learned this relationship and proved it by twice healing our schizophrenic (formerly genius dyslexic) son with music gently amplified by headphones and focused on his right ear. Once he learned how to protect and care for his ears (2008), he prevented himself from becoming schizophrenic. He has had no symptoms of schizophrenia since then. He also learned how to gain increasing control over his addictions, which had induced schizophrenia over and over again for a decade. And he learned never to accept certain prescriptions that affect muscle, such as prednisone, because even a minuscule amount of such chemicals affect the very small muscle of the middle ear to cause bipolarity or even very severe psychosis. He became able to learn normally and completed high school, which he had been forced to abandon a decade previously when he first became schizophrenic. I learned things about the symptoms of schizophrenia during that decade ("once a schizophrenic, always a schizophrenic" one of his psychiatrists told me) that doctors appear not to have noticed, no doubt because they drown symptoms in heavy doses of chemicals. Those very harmful chemicals also inhibit the function of the ears, eventually causing irreversible damage. I have written in Listening for the Light about how I discovered that the ear controls the speed of integration of the cerebral hemispheres under the dominance of the left cerebral hemisphere. The strength of the tiny stapedius muscle of the right ear determines the amount and purity of high-frequency sound that can pass through the inner ear to the brain stem and reach the left temporal lobe. As Dr. Alfred Tomatis points out, the neurological routes from each ear differ in length, which has led to the prioritizing of the shorter route for communication: right ear to left-brain (to larynx and back to the listening ear that controls the flow of incoming sound) for the production of speech. That efficient route dominates the parallel -- but not symmetrical -- route from the left ear to the right-brain, on which the left brain draws for its nuancing of speech ("emotional prosody") and other "emotive" and "creative" information. The "unconscious" control of that right, middle-ear muscle controls all states of consciousness, from waking to sleeping and everything in between. Schizophrenia is a state of non-dominance of the cerebral hemispheres, a state of consciousness others experience only in sleep. This is an exceedingly brief summary of my learning and publications, but you can see that it constitutes a revolution in the understanding of behaviour both normal and aberrant. The brain chemicals discussed in this video are of secondary importance to the supply of the energy flow from sound to the brain coming from the right (and left) ears. And this is citizen science achieved by a mother -- a creative woman, dare I say -- profoundly concerned for her family. And for the human family. You can learn more about my books by googling my name for my websites.
@luciatilyard2827
@luciatilyard2827 9 жыл бұрын
How interesting! I've read that many schizophrenics tend to be deaf and have wondered about it.
@ALTWrite
@ALTWrite 9 жыл бұрын
Lucia Tilyard Hi, Lucia, I have not read that about schizophrenics and would love the reference if you happen to remember where you read it. I know of one psychiatrist who has seen the effects of music on autistic children and I know of others who are beginning to experiment with music therapies. I suspect all mental illness will be treated with music within a few years. That knowledge is moving from the sphere of "citizen science" into the mainstream.
@luciatilyard2827
@luciatilyard2827 9 жыл бұрын
Laurna Tallman It was some time ago that I read it, maybe even pre-internet, so can't remember the source, though I did once know a schizophrenic, who was partially deaf. Apparently now, there is also some kind of therapy using magnets, which is proving quite successful. Fascinating stuff.
@ALTWrite
@ALTWrite 9 жыл бұрын
Lucia Tilyard Thanks, Lucia. I will make a point of looking for this. Since our son was healed with music, I have been less focused on schizophrenia than on bipolarity and other conditions that respond to music. Most of the people I try to help are so loaded with drugs that music cannot override the chemicals. The person has to be gradually weaned off the pharmaceuticals for the ear muscle to be able to recover. Then, they likely have substance addictions that also must be weaned while keeping up the music therapy. Thanks for your interest and for taking the trouble to reply!
@luciatilyard2827
@luciatilyard2827 9 жыл бұрын
Laurna Tallman It's a pleasure. I only heard about the magnetic therapy the other day, so don't know anything about it.
@fraidoonw
@fraidoonw 8 жыл бұрын
tnx.
@complexionapplication8555
@complexionapplication8555 10 жыл бұрын
This video is mentally refreshing!
@TravelNP
@TravelNP 4 жыл бұрын
26:16. Treatments and consequence to contribution to society
@Jaleelk0
@Jaleelk0 5 жыл бұрын
I often wish I were a genius, despite the downsides.
@apiadatedemi
@apiadatedemi 11 жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you mean from all the conversation.
@Elesparto
@Elesparto 11 жыл бұрын
The voice I'm hearing in my head right now is telling me much of this stuff, as interesting as it is, is nonsense...
@sherlockholmeslives.1605
@sherlockholmeslives.1605 9 жыл бұрын
Take Van Gough, his illness was separate from his creative genius. At any point he could separate himself from his eccentric and misunderstood bipolar? disorder and totally immerse himself in his artistic gift. The genius and his illness were separate and independent from each other. By the way, NO ONE Is MAD!!!!!! It just that certain minds don't fit into the general scheme of what is accepted to be ordinary or that they are of an unrecognizable way of thinking!!! I was diagnosed as having a schizophrenic type illness and have never been or felt mad or different!!! I have scored in the genius range on I.Q. tests by the way!!! Cheers - Mike
@lfcdanny95
@lfcdanny95 9 жыл бұрын
Where's your proof of your IQ test scores cause youtube seems to be the new Mensa with all the Self-proclaimed Genius' flying about.
@sherlockholmeslives.1605
@sherlockholmeslives.1605 7 жыл бұрын
I guestimate my IQ to be 165! and I don't give a shit if it is or not, I am certainly very, very intelligent! If anyone ever says they are more intelligent than me I will punch them as hard as I can in their face!
@sherlockholmeslives.1605
@sherlockholmeslives.1605 7 жыл бұрын
My Mensa Results - Cattell B IQ score, 127 1 / 8 Culture Fair IQ sore, 117 1 / 7 Above Average Intelligence. I could have scored much, much more!
@wbx9126
@wbx9126 5 жыл бұрын
@@sherlockholmeslives.1605 127 is not that high, certainly not high enough to brag about
@cheekymonkey3929
@cheekymonkey3929 6 жыл бұрын
Or both♥️
@Joskemom
@Joskemom 7 жыл бұрын
When those doctors hold up a picture of an ink blob and ask you 'what do you see", are they measuring your degree of apophenia?
@hollywoodhillbillyhippie5613
@hollywoodhillbillyhippie5613 3 жыл бұрын
Genius or madness genius and madness genius in madness ? Both are just words and who decided those words and their or there meanings ?
@DeniseHoukMedia
@DeniseHoukMedia 8 жыл бұрын
it's interesting that creativity is linked to mental disorders... saying that this person in the past had this or that disorder seems to be limiting. How many creative people are there that have no "disorders"? How many non creative people that function in society do have disorders?
@MackeyDeez
@MackeyDeez 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming what I thought about schizophrenia and creativity for the last few years. Now I know that I'm not crazy maybe an eccentric possibly borderline genuis but crazy.
@TheBruces56
@TheBruces56 5 жыл бұрын
I am a member of Mensa and believe there is a strong correlation between genius and mental illness. However, not all genius are creative and not all artists are genius.
@MrYouGroup
@MrYouGroup 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting with a nice touch of humor
@MrTyppie
@MrTyppie 8 жыл бұрын
Fitch's paradox of knowability is one of the fundamental puzzles of epistemic logic. It provides a challenge to the knowability thesis, which states that every truth is, in principle, knowable. The paradox is that this assumption implies the omniscience principle, which asserts that every truth is known. Essentially, Fitch's paradox asserts that the existence of an unknown truth is unknowable. So if all truths were knowable, it would follow that all truths are in fact known. I am man, learning the mind of God, but i first must know “Who made God”
@rodvessels1206
@rodvessels1206 8 жыл бұрын
Thank GOD for Mike Wallace, who interviewed Dali about his mad genius and learned that Dali's true desire was to be the world's greatest CLOWN. (And he totally shocked and played with Wallace's mind during the interview. Fantastic experience to watch.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6CumWN9iphreKM.
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 8 жыл бұрын
+Rod Vessels I'm not convinced that he said it was his _true desire_. He was a clown sure but as he said, his personality was a sort of work of art. Andy Warhol was much the same way in making an artwork of himself. If you think he's a clown and not to be taken seriously, I'm sure he would love that. He would tell you to listen to Rod Vessels right before calling himself a genius for the hundredth time. Art doesn't always make sense. It's either priceless or worthless depending on the beholder. "Dali is contradictory and paradoxical in everything." Dali. You've got to admit one thing. We're still talking about him.
@rodvessels1206
@rodvessels1206 8 жыл бұрын
very nice response. I'm not sure where got my "facts," but on review it looks like I may have been wrong. Thank you.
@PaulTheSkeptic
@PaulTheSkeptic 8 жыл бұрын
Rod Vessels Well, you linked it up above. It was very interesting actually and he did talk along those lines. I think it's going a bit far to think he meant that everything he did was all a big joke. In fact his technique rivaled the renaissance masters as far as being realistic. I mean of course just his technique. The subject matter was anything but realistic.
@GentlemanVillain
@GentlemanVillain 11 жыл бұрын
Imagine a perfectly healthy and "normal" 12 year old child being trapped in a kindergarten class everyday of his life for decades. That's what it feels like to be a genius in a world of "normal" people. Average people decide who is mad and who is not by how a person compares to "average." But maybe they're not in the position to judge a genius. Only a genius is in the position to judge a genius and it's perfectly well possible that average people are the ones that appear insane to a genius.
@enlightin1
@enlightin1 11 жыл бұрын
the thin line is in the amount of dopamine, too much and people become schizophrenic too little they are depressed right in the middle=normal, a little extra=genius/creativity
@GeniusisCommon
@GeniusisCommon 8 жыл бұрын
#Geniusiscommon #Genius
@lukemferguson
@lukemferguson 10 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice the waves on his coat whenever he moved?
@sherlockholmeslives.1605
@sherlockholmeslives.1605 9 жыл бұрын
If you were to look for the genius / madness conjunction in Britain or in Western Europe, it just isn't there!!! People make excuses for the unfathomable nature of some people's genius by saying their mad. Cheers - Mike
@missanna208802
@missanna208802 10 жыл бұрын
Alchemy wasn't "sorcery" back then. It was infant chemistry. Of course that would have interested a man of science. As for being intensely suspicious and paranoid- some of the things he did could have had him hunted down by the church. With his life on the line, he had to be careful. I don't think that points to madness. Some of the artists on the other hand ....
@Fraktriban
@Fraktriban 11 жыл бұрын
what is psychic healthful ??
@nuurgedi
@nuurgedi 9 жыл бұрын
after watching this im geniousss
@joanaferreira2130
@joanaferreira2130 4 жыл бұрын
23:32 Apophemia. I found it interesting the way he kind of associated it with a mental issue like schizophrenia... I wish he would actually spend some time trying to understand the way a realist artist works and the techniques he develops to be accurate, to actually be able to understant that this is a technique used for centuries. You can learn and develop the way to See, with a bit of training.
@mpcc2022
@mpcc2022 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, all trained artist can see the past, but very few can create a future and people want to know why some people have higher rates of creative achievement than others and it doesn't come down to training alone.
@HenryStradford
@HenryStradford 10 жыл бұрын
Good talk!
@ArtDivineIndia
@ArtDivineIndia 10 жыл бұрын
Genius...women would stay away from being Gala Galatea.
@shihtzupuppy823
@shihtzupuppy823 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting... 🌝
@senecaryan7927
@senecaryan7927 3 жыл бұрын
If the world ends and nobody is left to see it happen is he really a genius?
@TheNoblot
@TheNoblot 10 жыл бұрын
the process of identity which is assertion of yourself, somehow, william the conqueror gave a contribution to people by giving them names, the purpose was self sufficient power to be independant and in tune with nature, this however was complicated even before the egyptian empire however efforts never has ceased to be. as the quantity increased them, the harmonious process got more complex, to harmonise, however the original plan has taken a lot longer than expected. fortunately the idea is now giving fruit. and a new dimension shapes the apple.
@mikehydropneumatic2583
@mikehydropneumatic2583 6 жыл бұрын
How about David Bowie, he was scared going insane. His brother if I am not wrong was schizofrenic and commited suicide.
@theroadupward
@theroadupward 5 жыл бұрын
Creative achievement is here defined by fame and/or money. I submit that some creative achievers are neither famous nor rich. For example, Van Gogh was neither (until after his death.) If he never became famous, would he still have been a creative genius?
@mpcc2022
@mpcc2022 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because people are always looking for things to exploit, sell, build, and satisfy their desires at some point some one is going to discover his work and find it more useful than others.
@yangjin6639
@yangjin6639 10 жыл бұрын
It is a kind of impulsive mood disorder,so~ positively! Do you know impulsive sex-offender is very dangerous? What about impulsive idea creator and inventor? The symptom has same mechanism but the influence is different in human society.
@DopamineSchizo
@DopamineSchizo 10 жыл бұрын
There's a very thin line between intelligence and insanity, saying as a schizophrenic myself
@rindeldonnet7356
@rindeldonnet7356 4 жыл бұрын
John Dryden its as though they write as if their fluff is content. Possible this man just wanted to sound deeper than the idea. Simply saying creativity is madness(chaos) and the experience and logic systems bring that chaos to order.
@stevenmata777
@stevenmata777 10 жыл бұрын
we must learn to control ourselves
@SecretaryBirdable
@SecretaryBirdable 10 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Poetikaliz
@Poetikaliz 10 жыл бұрын
control is for nazis! i hate control i hate self control! i love being wild!!!! WILD!
@MrSheepboy
@MrSheepboy 10 жыл бұрын
We must find balance, not control, as there truly is no such thing :)
@lightbox617
@lightbox617 10 жыл бұрын
If I were in "balance" how would you expect me to make art?
@filthracer1476
@filthracer1476 10 жыл бұрын
Timothy Dingman If you used a "tsunami" as a metaphor for your art, you could see "balance" as a metaphor for surfing it. Surfing a tsunami requires one to be both severely unbalanced (sane people would not decide to ride a wave that scary) and incredibly well balanced, in order to make it through.
@lustchievous
@lustchievous 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff. I'm the dummy in my family with a mere 134 IQ. Along with smarts we have mental health issues too. From anxiety and learning disorders to schizophrenia, personality disorders, and bi-polar disorder. More interesting we're all creative in one way or another. I'm inclined to think that a LOT of mental 'disorders' are just not fitting into socially accepted frameworks. I also think that trauma, bad upbringings etc are the fodder on which some of the most interesting expression is based. I, personally, have an emotional regulation disorder and my math and visual perception IQ is in the 97%. I'm a 3D artist, creating 3D content for games. I can't help wondering how much this logic based ability is connected to learning to stay in my logical mind to help balance difficult to control emotions? And how much of my visual perception skill came from having to assess a monitor my hostile environment growing up? Could difficult situations in life help us to build the pathways in our brain which can be useful in creative endeavors?
@arturowill1
@arturowill1 7 жыл бұрын
Remona Stormborn Hi, are you dislexic? I am only asking because I am a very dislexic one and for me, 3D imagination and art overall comes very natural. I sucked at school very bad, I could not read or understan what I read... that helps you develop new ways to overcome situations in life. Cheers.
@lustchievous
@lustchievous 7 жыл бұрын
Arturo P No, I'm not but a LOT of people I know who do what I do are. One of my sons has a learning disorder similar to dislexia. Oddly, my familie's little oddities are never the same....
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 7 жыл бұрын
Remona Stormborn This quote,that deserves the pu police of speech begging correction that is not now aloud or allowed as the mad would ask for measures?
@coreycox2345
@coreycox2345 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting. It seems that there is some kind of madness (in varying degrees) in every person. Some of my favourite people have a lot of craziness. I do, and I am not a genius. It is sometimes hard for me to think inside the box. In my case, this could also be thought of as a personality type. ENTP in the Meyers-Briggs. I sometimes wonder if I have a slight touch of Aspergers. Is that craziness, or just a different kind of person?
@hiphopheadz8180
@hiphopheadz8180 7 жыл бұрын
I'm an ENFP
@coreycox2345
@coreycox2345 7 жыл бұрын
This seems like a good makeup for a pope. It does appear to describe you.
@icecat2009
@icecat2009 7 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@natedaviz9178
@natedaviz9178 8 жыл бұрын
IF CRAZY EQUALS GENIUS
@KAInousLEN
@KAInousLEN 11 жыл бұрын
What does drawing homes have 2 do with it, I did that 2 lol were they ghetto I look back on mine and they weren't as good as I thought they were ur probably a little crazy 2 if start thinking about the way u think there probably be something no doubt
@granolabean1
@granolabean1 4 жыл бұрын
Dark side of the moon. P. F. So in traditional thinking if I cut down a forest for logging and get rich off this I'm sane but if I hug tree while in the forest I'm crazy. Trees are living beings which provide life for others but the rich man only takes life.
@dawnrazornephilim
@dawnrazornephilim 7 жыл бұрын
480p? terrible, anyone know of a better upload?
@flowerpower1577
@flowerpower1577 5 жыл бұрын
I am proudly happily a mad genius and i love every minute of my mad self and i love too show my madness too hehe😀
@lbeetlejuiceklein3101
@lbeetlejuiceklein3101 10 жыл бұрын
What was the name of the madness at 5:00 can someone message me
@mahs7620
@mahs7620 6 жыл бұрын
L beetlejuiceklein You might not care anymore but it’s Porphyria
@wishwizard100
@wishwizard100 10 жыл бұрын
2060? Sounds about right.
@ivandate9972
@ivandate9972 9 жыл бұрын
i think i was only mad and not genius ... but everybody keep telling me to search ... but i think i was only mad and not genius ...
@ivandate9972
@ivandate9972 9 жыл бұрын
it is better than being average ...
@itchyhope.6782
@itchyhope.6782 9 жыл бұрын
Madness in itself is Genius.
@itchyhope.6782
@itchyhope.6782 9 жыл бұрын
Who's to say Dum Dum? A great deal of the great creative individuals though out history had an incline towards some sort of mental disorder or two. The quote it appears was far beyond your intellect. Don't try to decipher which you cannot understand or ever comprehend.
@luciatilyard2827
@luciatilyard2827 9 жыл бұрын
From your comment, my guess is that poetry may be your area of genius, that's the area you need to search.
@luciatilyard2827
@luciatilyard2827 9 жыл бұрын
We obviously have a genius here, who but a genius could come up with such inanities.
@2002budokan
@2002budokan 6 жыл бұрын
A Turkish Photographer Ara Güler who knows Dali, said: He pretend to be mad, in fact he is sane...
@MegaTrivial
@MegaTrivial 11 жыл бұрын
In psychic healthy state of mind there is the presence of the awareness of having e.g. a psychic problem, while in psychic unhealthy state of mind there is not such of awareness.
@lazyfreedom98
@lazyfreedom98 11 жыл бұрын
the thin line is between money and power
@FlockOfHawks
@FlockOfHawks 5 жыл бұрын
When one titles a video "A or B ?" , but fails to define A and B , the dive is from a wobbly offset , and the swim will get you no-where . If it weren't for the many great comments , i would have considered this video my first waste of bandwidth on a Gresham lecture .
@andrxies
@andrxies 10 жыл бұрын
If any geniuses read this im curious as to what you're doing now. Did you use your gift? Are you an entrepreneur?
@ferrisromero8996
@ferrisromero8996 10 жыл бұрын
They mill about a superfluous web of routines and dread...(absolute dread?) any interesting though which falls out of that paradigm. 'This' they call being 'normal'.
@navyfederal1650
@navyfederal1650 5 жыл бұрын
The Bible says God created the light on the first day, not the 4th.
@ariexzionforkenfire8963
@ariexzionforkenfire8963 4 жыл бұрын
So the equation is this simple. Kill the madness in the man, and you quite possibly kill the genius that fuel's the heart of the world's evolution. Einstein was a mess. Yea....spacial displacement of object complex. Time is relative to the object's center of mass?
@trukkstop1
@trukkstop1 10 жыл бұрын
You have to be careful when saying that a person has problems with "social skills". For instance, a handicapped person, or a gay person, might be excluded by others, or an ethnic minority might be shunned by racists. Such social isolation is due to cruelty/heartlessness of "normal" people, rather than poor social skills of the excluded individual. But some might still point out such an individual, saying: "that person keeps to himself, because he is antisocial."
@jimjones4953
@jimjones4953 10 жыл бұрын
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