GENSHIN IMPACT WILL NEVER BE BETTER THAN HONKAI STAR RAIL | Tectone Reacts

GENSHIN IMPACT WILL NEVER BE BETTER THAN HONKAI STAR RAIL | Tectone Reacts
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[@senmaroll1006]

the fact that there are still domains locked to certain days in a week drives me crazy

[@KingAnge978]

Holy, that's why I quit 🤪

[@zenixvampirchik652]

That... And honestly after star rail I feel to lazy to run same domain over and over and over and over and over... and over again. Still getting ptsd from every day farming for half a year for a single non optimal crit piece for my wanderer. They just weren't dropping for me. Like for fucks sake. And sure it's easy to kill all enemies again and again. But after star rail's auto farm - genshin domain runs feel like such a slog

[@reesefleece]

THIS. I recently popped back in after an extended break of playing only HSR and excitedly grabbed Ayaka as I always found her fun to play but never had the chance to snipe her from the banner (Already casually farmed the boss mats), only to see that I had to wait 48 hours to grab any talent books for her. I literally just closed the game and still haven’t built her.

[@Icegaze039]

​@@reesefleeceToo much free time, get busy.

[@Sarrr1]

​@@zenixvampirchik652People call it a chore but I call it a 9-5 job but you don't get paid.

[@CastielReborn]

Genshin devs Really said "Double it and give it to the next person" Aka Star rail 😂

[@nightshrine4257]

Sorry man 2 times 0 is 0 Genshin had nothing going for it to begin with

[@souland3566]

@@nightshrine4257 I think overall star rail is better but Genshin story is better than star rail

[@Kastienburg]

​@@souland3566did you just compare 3 years worth of story to less than a year worth one 🤨

[@kianschoeman6574]

​@@souland3566no it's not and I could tell you why

[@kami761]

@@souland3566 What part exactly? Honestly

[@excalitto]

Some people may want to deny it but, HSR is basically what Hoyo decided NOT to improve in Genshin but rather implement it in a new game to lure jaded genshin players and have 2 big products for sale instead of 1.

[@zoheirzozo2765]

Yeah probably but HSR came 3 years after genshin so I doubt that's the reason why they don't improve genshin

[@excalitto]

@@zoheirzozo2765 HSR's was alraady in production by the time genshin came out, i know because im a veteran Honkai player and we knew about star rail first before genshin players even knew it existed.

[@zoheirzozo2765]

@@excalitto really I didn't know that, BTW do u recommend hi3 I tried once but it felt very weird in the beginning

[@wiskingyt]

​​@@zoheirzozo2765if you want to play for the story (the story atm is already finished) then yeah HI3 has the best story telling hoyoverse ever done, bar none. If you play HI3 for the gachas then it's gonna be hard to recommend. In HI3 you really don't need characters, they will lend you a character in some chapters. Sometimes you need to use your characters but man it's so free to play.

[@excalitto]

@@zoheirzozo2765 I recommend it for both the story and combat if you like fast-paced hack and slash that require quick reactions (keep in mind this is not the case for very old characters but we get free S ranks or 5* characters about twice a year so there's that). Combat takes some time to get used to but it's worth it in the long run, specially because of all the mechanics and how teams work. It's more based on a 1dps 2 support (with only a few exceptions for very specific strategies) and counter types/gear/rotations are way more important compared to genshin, at least for the "end game" difficulty. Honkai's abyss version is also more rewarding than genshin's and it refreshes twice a week and there's a lot less farming in general (although some craftable gear takes literal months to get, that's an L). There's a also "part 2" coming at the end of February and there's definitely going to be a lot of free and new stuff, so that could be a great time to try the game once again. Just look for guides on the type counter mechanic and team rotations to make combat experience more enjoyable if you decide to give it another try.

[@emmali433]

On January 17, when they give us Dr. Ratio in the mail, people will again scream in every corner with happiness in a new wave.

[@SchifferThe2nd]

That chad is going to scar genshin stans for life.

[@arceptor]

hes not a waifu though @@SchifferThe2nd

[@thundertechtamil6547]

​@@arceptorhe was a 5 star not a 3 star (aloy)

[@reedsad4652]

He dont have tits wdym​@@SchifferThe2nd

[@arceptor]

@@thundertechtamil6547 ruan mei should've been the free character

[@davidweaver4436]

Regarding Genshin's exploration, I genuinely think it peaked (pun not intended, but I'll take it) with Dragonspine. The puzzles spread out across the mountain, the unforgiving atmosphere, and then ascending ever higher up the mountain to eventually launch the Skyfrost Nail was so memorable, and none of it was really tied to a quest or anything as far as I can remember. You just did it because you could and it was there.

[@ahmadgrb5055]

Dragonspine was and still is my favorite area to explore in the entire game. It’s so much fun intriguing and rewarding, i have no idea why so many people hate it.

[@AgentSephiroth]

Not even close and I'm not a Dragonspine hater

[@insxnemxnd3127]

Agreed, the very best area that they’ve made

[@RissShinsei]

When it just dropped that shit was fking hell. So difficult. They made it easier later but damn. That thing was harsh. But the exploration in a vacuum that you had things to do not tied to those goddamnmotherfucking quests that was definitely the best part. I hated Sumeru for that shit.

[@Sergmanny46]

There was a quest. But one, only one. Not 9, and also didnt take 20 hours (looking at you, aranara world quest).

[@Runawayturist]

The real problem was that Genshin became too big. The community lost the chance to make the changes when they still could be heard. We now have find solace in whatever scrap we get. Resources, time, exploration, events...all of that cannot be improved anymore because the developers know that a still vast majority are content with what we have. Its like being happy to be paid min wage just cause we have a job...

[@Rexhunterj]

Mainstreaming video games was a terrible mistake that we should revert if ever possible alas its a pandora's box situation

[@tropicthndr]

TCG stupidity ruined for me, such a waste of money, the rest goes into orchestra performances I could care a less about, all those people plucking strings don’t even play the game, such a joke.

[@jinwood]

The combat is really good. Instead of adding end game content, they focused on mini games, and card games that no one asked for. Edit: and majority defend these Mickey mouse games. When I opened Genshin, I want to play Genshin. Not a fckin boat mini game, prop hunt, or any of that🙄

[@racool911]

Hey if you can live comfortably on minimum wage but have a easy job, I'll gladly take it. Sure a high wage would be cool, but there's no incentive for me to complain for it

[@Saberdud]

living comfortably on min wage what?@@racool911

[@hilo01]

I'll never understand all these 'excessive anxiety' stuff honestly

[@relussmyer]

So this is kinda a dumb take but I think its because of the actual amount of casuals who are in the game who are unable to 36 star abyss, plus there inability to balance things for any kind of end game. For the second point you can find tons of videos explaining kit issues (just look at dehya), but I think a unexplored issue is the first. If you watch account reviews at all you will often see people who haven't done what people who put in the smallest bit of research do (level sucrose/xiangling, get the catch, etc.). And you have to think, these are people who are actively engaging in some form of content outside the game and still failing to do "basics". Genshin has a big community and there will be more people who don't engage in outside sources then people who do, so there probably is a major gap in game understanding/skill that I'd say probably bottom 30-40% of the player base has compared to the top 30-40%, beyond what other games have. TLDR throw a bronze or iron player into a diamond/emerald game in league and they can still buy items that fit there champion, hit minions, push waves etc. They will int to hell and back, but they can perform the very basics of the game. Take the equivalent of player skill in GI and the bottom players are unable to do even the basics to for the only "endgame" that exist.

[@Bingboy28]

Same here i have no idea whats up with genshin devs so prob CN community. Perhaps the anxiety they meant is the 3 hr per week gaming 😂.

[@RomBeams8840]

Oh that. If you mean the "we don't want to make more combat stuff cause 'anxiety'" thing the genshin devs said, it was a mistranslation from CN (allegedly) where 'anxiety' was 'combat anxiety' aka powercreep. Basically they said they didn't want to make more combat modes cause they were afraid they'd have to resort to powercreep to make the harder combat worth it (this is my interpretation)

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

@@RomBeams8840 If true, that’s one of the stupidest things I ever heard in my life. They could literally make combat modes that rely on player skill rather than Character Stats to solve the problem. A Capture/Defend the Base ( like games like Armored Warfare ) would be more about strategy and not just pure power. They could even make a Points based challenge, instead of a time-based one, in which players have to reach a certain number of points to win.

[@RomBeams8840]

@LuisBrito-ly1ko Personally I feel like the last suggestion is also on a thin a slippery slope of powercreep because from my anecdotal experience, I've noticed how if challenges get too easy thr playerbase demands harder content. So what I think would happen with the points thing would be: Points system exists -> many players beat it 100% -> players complain its too easy -> Hoyoverse responds by making it as difficult as 3.7 Abyss -> playerbase complains about difficultly. Now Hoyoverse could do 2 things. Make it easier for the playerbase (which would defeat the purpose of harder content that the playerbase already complained about in my example) Or They could take the more profitable path and make characters that conveniently make the challenge easier which could lead to the bad kind of powercreep (powercreep that also makes older units irrelevant to play.) I do like the tower defense idea though. Mainly cause I like tower defense

[@AGM0NG]

When Zhongli came out and everyone found him "underwhelming" the whole community kept complaining and complaining until they did something about it but for the many other problems that Genshin has they don't do anything about them hmmm I wonder why it's almost like the community doesn't complain enough for them to care

[@PrimordialGold]

Unless you from mainland, your complaint will be ignored

[@Fredlii]

They "listened" to the community because Zhongli is the representative of China; the Chinese players complained, and for the sake of appearances, they buffed him... out of cheap patriotism.

[@entice-6886]

I guess one continuous complaint where the devs see that nothing is wrong to their characters and the players complain that he is "underwhelming" is enough for them to stop making improvements in the game 😅

[@projectmoonsleeperagent]

They only really care about the CN players.

[@Perkydance416]

They complain about stupid bs like ships instead of things that can help the game

[@JoeyDubsJR]

Genshin cope is crazy on Hoyolab. They are so aggressive in their cope on hoyolabs that if you don't say you enjoy both in defense of Star Rail they will become a mob that hates you if you make one suggestion of Star Rail being slightly better in any way.

[@VyanTan]

They are still in early stages of grief bro. Wait until CNY or HSR anniversary. 😂😂😂

[@isisv7]

It’s so weird how easily triggered they are every time some one talks about star rail improvements and rewards, it should be obvious that both games are gonna be compared (including zzz and hi3) cause they are from the same company, they don’t want to hear nothing bad about the game even if in the long term it may bring more qol

[@SchifferThe2nd]

They hate to hear the truth about their beloved game.

[@jamess359]

Hoyolab is nothing but cancer. You have people who are completely dogshit at the game complaining about things being too difficult. This is from HSR part of Hoyolab. Nothing but casual people who suck ass at video games.

[@SovermanandVioboy]

@@SchifferThe2nd No, they just have more fun playing it than HSR, whats your problem about that? HSR is not better than GI, its pretty much the same, for a slightly different target group - why do you feel the need of constantly telling Genshin fands that Honkai is better, when its obviously not. You are annoying, thats what ppl hate.

[@zemer1406]

I'm still gonna play genshit 🗣️🗣️

[@jammy1726]

Me too

[@ballsackman7796]

Facts

[@tn1351]

Same. It’s a shit game but I still love the shit game

[@nguyenhuylong722]

Based, but also its kinda sad

[@Succubus_L0li]

That's sad

[@JTaylor-pr6rf]

I absolutely love HSR and what they’ve done with the game I also can’t stand the toxicity and weird stuff in the genshin community but as a game genshin will always be a little more enjoyable to me simply because the mechanics sitting there pressing a couple of buttons and watching your characters take turns attacking is monotonous imo

[@gil828]

that toxic and weird stuff is only limited to twitter and reddit, just ignore em

[@daddybondrewd]

9:15 ish, star rail also has another section equivalent to spiral abyss 1-8. So skipping floors 1-7 of MoC would be more similar to starting on floor 11 of spiral abyss and auto clearing 9/10

[@BNuts]

Notice how quickly Mihoyo responds to feedback on their other games, especially to the Chinese community. I'm sure _GGZ_ has seen the most changes over its service life, but then it is their oldest live game. And then there's _HI3_ , which has seen at least two revisions to its beginning, and is currently being completely overhauled for Part 2. What's interesting is that _HI3_ sees its highest popularity in its SEA server, and partly because of that, they added a language dub just for them, otherwise the only languages available are Chinese and Japanese. They did say in an interview that they wanted a full, global release for _HI3_ , but lacked the resources. The result is that _Genshin_ got that release instead. But the team responsible for _Genshin_ is much more passive, and not as generous with the players, as the teams responsible for _GGZ_ or _HI3_ and _HSR_ . It's going to be very interesting when _ZZZ_ is released, to see how it's managed too, and whether players who are looking particularly for the combat experience go to _HI3_ instead if there are too many TV sequences. _HI3_ also has a lot of stuff that would be substantial improvements if they were applied to _Genshin_ , but considering they haven't used them, I consider it very unlikely they ever will. Stamina overflow; consumables for rerolling and locking affixes; battlesuit skills you can turn on or off with a radial switch. Just a few easy examples. Or how about the ability to get some A-ranks and even some S-ranks from the shops? I know many players are looking for Chevreuse right now, but I never roll for a particular 4-star only. Because there's no guarantee on them.

[@nunyabz9494]

genshin i churning in money with minimal effort nowadays, it's abysmal, nothing made me hate more than farming for artifacts.

[@EternalTruth18]

SEA’s highest popularity is still CN lol, it has almost 5x the revenue of global as a whole.

[@balzo_benevolo]

I'm really glad I got rid of my Genshin addiction. Would you believe me if I said that Genshin has been the only game I played during 2022? It has been a great experience, but thank God I eventually started suffering from burnout. Now I only come back for the story. I'm playing Honkai: Star Rail and I'm having a blast, really. If the HSR devs continue to work on the game like they are doing now, it will easily become my favorite game.

[@youngrydah4374]

I 100% everything in Genshin played since day 1. Honkai Star Rail, l barely get any 5* compare to Genshin. You get high class characters in Tower of Fantasy quicker than Genshin and HSR.

[@balzo_benevolo]

@@youngrydah4374 And what does this have to do with my comment? Also, both games have the same pity system, so the chances of getting a 5* are the exact same. I have never played Tower of Fantasy so I refrain from judging.

[@RaghvendraSingh-nw5dw]

Genshin exploration was nice 2 years ago when I was in Liyue, on top of a mountain, gazing over at the harbour and the yellow and red trees. It looked cool. That's about the only time I was like, "Yeah . . . this game's nice." Today I finally completed all my world quests and it was mostly me mashing that F key through the dailogues. My exploration's done! Thank God!

[@ballsackman7796]

I swear dialogue is what keeps me from doing character story quest and world quest. I can’t sit through the endless dialogue and the fact that sometimes spamming doesn’t speed the text up.

[@maksl-x7u]

@@ballsackman7796Yeah lol, yesterday decided to check what is going on in genshin and that was a critical mistake. I saw Raiden's banner and was like "oh she is the only archon I'm missing maybe I wanna do some quests and collect some chests that I left untouched since sumeru release". Ended up wasting few hours on first act of sumeru story and got only one pull as a reward lmao. So I decided to give up on Raiden again xD.

[@ballsackman7796]

@@maksl-x7u listening to characters you will never see in the story again who play no role in the story whatsoever😂 it’s a nightmare

[@kishi_K0]

@@ballsackman7796 or better their story quests r about npcs instead

[@chexrail]

they need to implement a skip dialogue feature, i recently got back into it since the first yae banner it was miserable mashing f through mid story. The story should be there if you want to enjoy it, it just dialogue clog out the wazoo now

[@Yuji-automeris]

I got dr ratio for free on my birthday, January 17th that was a good gift

[@legromp2357]

One time I climbed some tall mountains, did a puzzle, and got some high-rarity chests on a floating island in Genshin (Liyue). However those moments are few and far between and they always come with the baggage of "F**k I should be doing quests or farming or something instead of EXPLORING THIS BIG BEAUTIFUL WORLD"

[@chrome1966]

Honestly the current events and quest felt like a chore instead of making me want to play more and learn more of the story I was like when will this end

[@ArabellaSoott]

I love both. I just wish the rewards in Genshin were better and I could play previous big events I missed (- the big festivals obviously) like the Albedo & Scaramouche event. It’s why I love HSR because I can play the previous events on my second acc even if they only give half the rewards. That’s really my stance…I love Genshin how it is just wish it didn’t take forever to just pull a 5 star. Got more 5 stars on HSR than Genshin. P.s I’d like to add that yes I explore and try to 100% every region as well as do as much of the events that come that I can.

[@fart433]

Wait till 4.4 free skin you get to choose from

[@kyokosakura3192]

​@@fart433It's just a skin. Compared to free 5* and other feauters that HSR has it's nothing.

[@SovermanandVioboy]

@@kyokosakura3192 Stop trying so hard. The "features" HSR has over Genshin mean nothing and who cares aber a free 5star or a free skin. Just accept that both games are fine and for slightly different target groups. These desperate attempts to make Genshin players feel bad are just annoying.

[@kyokosakura3192]

@@SovermanandVioboy I play both games. If I criticize Genshin that doesn't mean I don't like it.

[@archersterling6726]

​@@SovermanandVioboyYou're replying to every comment saying genshin fans are not annoying... Fascinating.

[@mickeylak9447]

Yet again, "Genshin could never".

[@Shindy117]

Game dev here. Want to know a fun fact? Remember that "we dont want to give anxiety" quote about end game? Go to 13:10 notice how they dont "declare" a winner. Get it? 😉

[@mugurel1357]

i mostly agree with Tectone, but even then i still think the event stories and main stories are a lot of fun to do and they even improved them in the past year, sadly not many have pointed that out beside some memes.

[@FnLizardKing]

The main story feels like more of a chore to get through than daily commissions due to the cutscenes you can't even afk or watch your 2nd monitor because you have to choose responses constantly. Pulling/swiping for characters like Raiden and then not being able to build them due to progression items being locked behind main story is a quit moment for some.

[@Kazeshini11]

Yeah but first impressions are everything. Remember a lil game called No Man's Sky ? It was so trashed at launch that even today their steam rating still hasn't recovered. But yet because of all the work the devs put into the game, released tons of free content and improved the game so much that it can't even be compared to the trash that was first put out, what's the first thing that comes in people's mind when you mention NMS ? "Oh yeah that game that had that disastrous launch and people kept making memes of ?" Even Cyberpunk has that curse. Made improvements since launch and now people praise it for what it is now but people also remember all the bugs at launch and the disaster it was on older consoles. If players of Genshin had been more vocal at the very start, Genshin wouldn't be in the state it is today. That is in a kind of limbo, devoid of progress. Doesn't help when the die hard players, usually called stans say things like "At least I don't just log in for 5 min and then log out. In Genshin I can spend hours exploring and there's always something to do" Which I always fin strange cause I can easily spend 2h or so a day playing HSR. I still have quests I haven't completed cause I like to keep them to change the pace from constantly doing SU events and improving my clears in MoC or PF.

[@Andy_ARBS]

​@@Kazeshini11 I acknowledge that NMS might be good now but I really don't like the idea that it should be praised for being "fixed" now. It released like shit and Sean Murray lied, it being a working product now doesn't wash away the stain.

[@Kazeshini11]

@@Andy_ARBS And you just proved my entire point, so I thank you for this. You have a good one.

[@Ennryuo]

It's an open world isn't it? If there is only one thing they have to deliver then i guess they have to do their best, otherwise genshin fambois will have nothing to defend themselves like " Genshin Story is better, we have better exploration 🤓"

[@Cheerful_Bliss]

Like I said in the past genshin treats new characters as "content" and till this day it still stands. Outside of that there's nothing really to do.

[@zippo718]

Chinese whales literally only log on to max the latest character, then hand the account to someone else that they pay to grind all the content until the next shiny thing comes along. The vast majority of Chinese Genshin streamers spend all day cycling through other people's accounts doing Abyss/events/dailies for subs/donations.

[@Miku-Izayoi]

Tbh if Genshin didn't fumble their bag, I guarantee you that it would be one of the best games ever. As much as I clown on Genshin, players need to realize they really need to voice out their dissatisfaction in a civilized manner of course. Only then will Genshin will actually do changes (if ya'll just attack them or threaten them, they are more likely to never change a thing out of fear for their lives) and those people licking Hoyo's boots and being their white knight need to stop defending them every single time. Like ya'll deserve better omfg. It is hella frustrating with these guys it's like watching a dumb friend stay with their abusive partner because they "love" you HSR is thriving because they're receiving complaints in a non-harmful, respectable way. And when they do something right, people are appreciative and show it. So yeah, even if Genshin is the one who fumbled the bag, ngl this was one is probably on the players. If they didn't do the anniversary fiasco, maybe Genshin wouldn't be so afraid of doing literally anything.

[@ballsackman7796]

Yea genshin is boring for the most part but as a dolphin I can come back every now and then to level up characters I never thought of using and I enjoy myself to a degree, I wouldn’t call it an abusive relationship cause I mean I don’t spend anymore it’s not taking nothing from me but time and I’m fine with that cause I enjoy what I’m doing but, I can’t get into star rail it’s not for me so I stick to genshin but both communities are not helping anything they just being annoying. Genshin is a lost cause though cause they already pretty much said they not adding content cause it’s increasing anxiety or whatever in the player base. Maybe it’s because they are scared but I doubt it tbh it’s probably just laziness or the fact they feel like nothings wrong because the Chinese player base loves it.

[@immortalspoiler]

Lmao. If you complain about genshin you'll get heated by keyboard warrior kids.

[@ballsackman7796]

@@immortalspoiler same for hsr tbh. Both communities annoying

[@immortalspoiler]

@@ballsackman7796 well its in hoyoverse community. But mostly genshin kids are annoying to deal with.

[@tararosabelle7368]

I always agreed with this and still do. Even my friend who no longer plays too, we both agree it had so much potential to be way better and it just… sadly won’t ever be fixed. They fumbled bad and nothing can change or take it back.

[@Scarz_King]

I aggressively dropped genshin before star rail released and now that star rails out I forgot genshin existed.

[@Ennryuo]

One of the Best decision of your life so far😂

[@ihatepeople3924]

​@@EnnryuoI play both games, but may i ask why you hate Genshin so much? I've seen you a lot of times in this comment section.

[@iriszilong1429]

My experience so far has been: Star Rail is neat, I'll go try Genshin and see what my Fiancee likes about this game. A month later, I've beaten the story with one character and I'm bored out of my mind. I liked the story, but this game feels like such a chore to play.

[@RyanRafi100]

Calling it a chore sums it up pretty well

[@etam8099]

Gonna try HI3 too?

[@iriszilong1429]

@@etam8099 Tried HI3, not big on the gameplay, so I didn't stick around.

[@etam8099]

@@iriszilong1429 Fair enough, may see if PGR may be better

[@arceptor]

likely story

[@themidnightotaku22]

16:20 actually, it’s Paimon reciting 70% of what we just did during the story.

[@strawberrylexta]

As a day 1 genshin player who has almost all units leveled, I recently left, the difference is just too much, I log into genshin and just feel bad, idk how people just get use to accepting it

[@tsalapbeew]

What I want for Star Rail to have that Genshin has is the option to tap and hold the lv up material for relics, light cones and your character. I know there is a an auto option but sometimes I need to lv a relic to a certain lv first before committing to it.

[@JJ-gy3ld]

It’s not that bad because you only need at max around 20 4 star materials, but it would still be nice

[@ballsackman7796]

I think I could play star rail if it’s wasn’t turned based and followed genshin combat which no matter what anybody say you can’t deny genshin combat is fire it’s just so limited to content.

[@ShinjiKitamuraTV]

if i'm not mistaken the devs already said that in 2.0 we will be able to level relics to the next cap to get one stat roll with one click, like going from 0 to +3 to +6 to +9 etc, they are on the right track :) PS: good luck on your pulls!

[@leman7358]

Well i wouldn't be playing star rail if it wasn't turn based and had genshin combat@@ballsackman7796

[@filipecordeiro2867]

Thats coming in 2.0 so... Another W to put on the pile i guess

[@clarinet800149]

Exactly right about the barrier to entry. I joined late in Genshin during the Raiden archon quest and I was pulling characters that o couldn’t ascend because I wasn’t far enough in the story. And I wasn’t progressing the story because my time was being taken up by dailies. On top of that my rank kept getting ascended which made the enemies more and more difficult to the point I only had to make a choice to grit my teeth during the combat or spend even more time grinding for resources for characters I didn’t want to use like Amber.

[@Kshitij_Ballaya]

Tectone being reasonable? Thank the lord for this glorious day

[@HackNSlacker]

The reserved trailblaze actually made me not quit the game. I wanted to take a break but I do not want to waste those points and if I will going to miss out with that much, I might just quit. But with the reserved, I only lose not that much points and when I came back, I am back to spending all the points and grinding relics again. It does not even feel that I missed out much in terms of progression.

[@Madcattus]

Geo element remains whack. They couldn't even fix the element system in their game. Their means of fixing the issue is to release more characters. The fact that in their TCG, geo has additional damage when a reaction is triggered, which makes them a strong element because of their additional defensive capabilities. But they couldn't do that in their main game. Like.... WHY?!?! Fix it ffs.

[@nub727]

I swear everyone that complains about geo just copied that opinion from other people and now it's spread far and wide and everyone thinks geo is broken and unusable when that is objectively just not the case at all. The entire point of geo since the very beginning was that it doesn't NEED reactions to be viable. Noelle, Itto, and Navia all do good damage without elemental reactions and they are perfectly usable. It literally makes 0 sense to say that geo needs to be "fixed" How about you actually think for yourself instead of copying the mainstream opinion that geo sucks just because it doesn't have damage increasing reactions.

[@Madcattus]

@@nub727 the assumption that I copied this is funny. I have been complaining about this years ago when I was still playing. Stop coping. Geo is whack and is still is. It's incomparable to hyperbloom and even to vaporize team comps. I used to have the mono geo team and it's not as great as the other team comps. It takes too much investment to make them strong. You know what's funny? The crystallize reaction. It was meant to be a defensive mechanic earlier in the game. But that stuff was forgotten by their own developers because it was so bad even from the beginning. Because spiral abyss is dps check, not a survival game mode.

[@clarinet800149]

Geo definitely feels worthless in part due to the lack of synergies in a game that heavily rewards playing with synergies

[@nub727]

@@Madcattus You can still complete all the content in the game with geo so why does geo need to be fixed? The damage is literally fine. What is wrong with having an element that stands on it's own and doesn't use reactions? Geo characters have higher scaling to make up for the lack of reaction damage. Also it sounds like you are one of those people that think hyperbloom is op and like the best reaction in the game. It's literally not, it's damage ceiling is low, it just has a high floor. There are a ton of hypercarry teams that obliterate hyperbloom including navia teams. You are literally acting like geo is unusable and it's "ohh so terrible hoyoverse is not fixing it" That is literally a delusional take. Also the consecrated beast abyss back in like 3.7/3.6 was definitely a skill check. You got basically 1 shotted by them. Everyone was having a tough time without zhongli.

[@Madcattus]

@@nub727 k. My issue is balancing the characters, because obviously some characters are better than the other and geo is not one of them. I'm not gonna argue with you anymore, because you're one of those "oh this character is fine because content is easy anyway" whatever. Play your game. I already quit that shit a long time ago.

[@SirChanXD]

Well the teams working on HI3, HSR and GI are different people

[@missstella1584]

I played HSR for Guinaifen. Now, I play it more than Genshin Impact. 😂😂

[@maxwellentertainment914]

genshin lives rent free in teccys head, he almost starts crying because of an in game system

[@kuzumo398]

The only thing I hate about genshin is that the anniversary should be the main event of a game and a time to get more players into playing the game. I played so much gacha that they always go all out on the anniversary free pulls, free characters, and events that only happen during the anniversary. The anniversary should be memorable. When the Genshin anniversary happens, it just passes by.

[@madiexqt]

one of my favourite things about star rail is that if you cant play for a while your trailblaze power will stock up while youre away, obviously not at the same rate as normal trailblaze power regens, but i think its so nice for players not to be anxious about wasting their regen time because theyre capped in TP. i hope that made sense lol

[@zippo718]

That's a core gacha mechanic that nearly every gacha has, except Genshin because, well, this video.

[@Kazeshini11]

It's the main reason I took off most of patch 1.5. When I came back, had 2400 and 240/240 waiting for me and used 2/3 of it to farm for Ruan Mei. Twas almost like I never stopped playing in the first place.

[@madiexqt]

@@zippo718 oh yeah i’m sure there is but genshin was my first gacha so i wasn’t used to it at all, i probably should have included that in my original comment ahah

[@shotgunshogun4707]

Bro all this makes me think about how insanely good genshin would be as an overall product if it followed star rail's business model and just general approach to handling the content and the fan base. But alas, genshin could never 💀

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

Get the Chinese fandom to say it

[@Indian_gae_boii]

the thing is, thats never gonna happen, maybe when WW drops but even then maybe not, star rail has actual compition like NIKKE so they will treat their fans nicely, genshin dosent, its one of its kind and every competition so far has failed, i really hope WW succeds so that the devs finally wake up (i still love genshin writing team a lot as a lore player, but the people responsible for QOL and reward system need to wake up 💀)

[@Ennryuo]

As long as genshin fambois are still coping hard, nothing is gonna change

[@ziebus904]

​@@shanedoesyoutube8001 doesnt matter

[@chillz7287]

after 3 years of genshin abusing me i too have put it down, just the mere thought that the game is mechanically almost the exact same as on release just makes me feel like an absolute idiot to continue playing it.

[@Tac0boss]

to the issue of Genshin Spiral floors 9-12. I currently don't mind doing floor 9 and 10 just because it reminds of how far i've gone from a year ago where i thought 10-3 was impossible. Yes, I 2 shot floor 10-3 and below now but i actually smile when i finished the floors so fast.

[@israelmasson4083]

Genshin got coop is the one thing that make me still play it . Still hope for some end game coop like an abyss coop , or a coop island you can do monthly would be cool

[@zerovking7629]

That is never gonna happen like seriously if they wont even add any new endgame to the base game why would they to coop thats been neglected since release it hasn’t received a single update

[@bepo1702]

@@zerovking7629 fr, at this point you have to be coping really hard to cling onto the idea of any form of endgame in genshin

[@Menarique-m6i]

Please no, they to need fix the connection first

[@JCJ262]

The co-op is pretty bad though. When GI first launched, I thought it was weird that you couldn't do quests or activate undiscovered statues of the seven in co-op, but assumed that they'd add it in later. It's been over 3 years and those things haven't changed.

[@sunflowerhairpin3279]

Uuummmm... There are so many things they need to do just to FIX the co-op first before even thinking about adding anything to it. lol

[@poke8391]

I start play star rail 3 weeks ago and seriously I'm just amazing by the game, every single dialog is not big like genshin like they stretch the dialog for ages, the daily take so little time, they have auto man seriously even the permanent endgame on simulated universe, or pure fiction man I just got so surprise by that little things in the game

[@MoonIitStroll]

Man, I hope you're right about the 5-Star selector; I already have a Bronya and a Bailu but I've been 'blessed' with 4 Welts 😅 I really want a Himeko!

[@Xailei_]

There was a leak about it. It’s true.

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

Same, GIMME MOM!!! GIMME MOM!!!

[@MoonIitStroll]

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Isn't Kafka our mom? Or I guess depending on how you see it, Himeko could be out adoptive mom.

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@MoonIitStroll you seen how down bad the simps are???

[@MoonIitStroll]

@@shanedoesyoutube8001 No idea. I meant by lore; Kafka is _kind of_ our mom, isn't she?

[@bagelEater64]

Once genshin released that snoozefest desert exploration it really lost me, especially as a ftp its just so easy to lose motivation when you have to grind through mountains of dialogue and quests for hours just to get a few pulls

[@itz_anju_emc2]

Bro honestly I wish I was living the life Teccy doesn. reacting to content, not giving a f*ck about anything in the world, man it's the dream life in my opinion

[@jamess359]

Sitting on your ass watching KZbin. Yes, a very fulfilling life. 😂

[@justsomeguywithnoeyes7303]

then do it

[@cyb3r_81]

me too man

[@Br3akf2st_Sp3c1al]

All the more reason to give it a try. You never know if you don't try it

[@ThecatThecat-hq1op]

15:20 aside from what you've mentioned I would also like to have a more fun and dynamic way to travel throughout the world (really cool mounts with special movement abilities or something are a possibility) (make climbing and gliding faster and let people change the direction you glide at). Make it so you choose the artifact you get as a reward for grinding a domain. Make artifact grinding more interesting by changing up the enemies and terrain of the area you fight in. Make the game have a higher tier of difficulty with better rewards for people who are at that point so the enemies and terrain you fight on actually matter (maybe some way to infinitely scale it even). Make all quests playable in multiplayer (don't even have to change the cutscenes, just let the gameplay parts be multiplayer "I wanna play this with my friend"). Put some really good 4 of 5 star weapons around the map as rewards for doing things in the open world that also relate to the lore/story of the place. Make quests be repayable. Make story events permeant (maybe cut out the rewards so players still have FOMO) and also repayable. Detach the swim down key from the walk/run key so I can have key binds that make sense. Remove/nerf hyperbloom. Make/change some reactions so that they are more interesting than just "more damage". Maybe make Geo less insular. Make the "special" running animations not get stuck on the ground so easily. Improve the team building experience for new players (free 4-star characters). More open world gliding challenges would be cool (assuming you already did the first point mentioned). Give the traveler voice lines throughout the game. If you wanted to make the game not a gatcha game, you could make it so the character/story quests unlock the character banner and you have to spend primo gems to unlock it rather than gamble to unlock it. Remove the water effect that covers the character's ass when swimming. Make it so your character doesn't go translucent when climbing and you look from the bottom up. Etc. Etc. As well as what you said which was "energy reserve system", "extensive extensive endgame", "meaningful way to grind", "retroactively remove filler and 90% of paimon's voice lines". I have a TON of complaints and issues I wish would be fixed in this game and the inner modder within me is begging me to strangle it. Maybe someday, I or a community member will make this a reality.

[@dreadseed9552]

tectone referring to the free 5 star " it's been almost 3 weeks since this has happened and people are still talking about it." My man all the posts that where referenced said 18 days ago. I think the only people who are still bringing it up are the people looking to drama bait like tectone. confirmation bias the video.

[@ihatepeople3924]

Lmao finally someone said it. He even got the audacity to make dramas to the game though he apologized to the community a few months ago.

[@Lily-cd6gu]

Yeah lmao the grnshin fandom has already moved on from it and are focusing more on the 4.4 leaks lol

[@Er0G3niu5]

To be honest the open world of genshin made me really exited and I completely hunted EVERY SINGLE CHEST in just 2 weeks... then after that every time I log in I just go to where the daily quest is, go to where the Ley Lines is or go to where I need to farm the artifacts and materials I need to level up my weapons and characters and then I realize that I don't feel excited about Genshin's open world now because I can just teleport to where I want to be.

[@Tabyspuperze]

The Genshin and Hsr Dabate feels like how Asian parents compare their son with the smarter cousin Lmao

[@archersterling6726]

Most people compare then wrong, tho. Gameplay is different but dev attention and progress are definitely better in HSR.

[@ishibaby8618]

Ahhh.. yes... it's tectone....

[@HorizonYT7274]

I would like to say yes and no to this statement. Really because Genshin's latest quest was filled with the love that i felt from star rail. But star rail overall gives me that feeling more than one quest. However i think it's not to late for Genshin to get better and I think they finally realized that they need better writing and end game content.

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

Fontaine’s Archon Quest is overrated. I spotted several plot and characterization errors that I did not see in Sumeru.

[@HorizonYT7274]

@@LuisBrito-ly1ko don't really remember sumeru that well but I'm curious what were the fontaine plot holes?

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

@@HorizonYT7274 Not necessarily plot holes, but inconsistencies nonetheless, in Act V, the goal was to make Furina tell whatever info she was hiding. The problem in that was both the premise and the execution. The Premise was that Furina would not have said anything with a simple talk hence the need to force her, yet the story proves it wrong almost immediately. Furina and Traveler also barely talked to each other, so it was kinda weird for Furina to almost open to her/him or for Traveler to know how exactly she would react and go in certain situations. The Trial basically deviated from the premise. How exactly would accuse her of not being the Hydro Archon have forced her to say what Neuvilette was looking for ( something he wasn’t even sure about in the first place ). Obviously she would have focused more in proving she’s a deity than revealing secret info. - In the first Acts, Traveler had no reason to be so upset about Lyney and Lynette being from the Fatui given that they’re literally friends of Childe and have canonically worked with some Fatui that weren’t bad before. And it’s not like Traveler is completely honest about who she/he is. There’s also the fact that Traveler went to Fontaine to talk with the Hydro Archon but never once attempted to even make an appointment to see Furina in person. Furthermore, she/he seemed more to care about her info than her when the Oratrice was seemingly about to kill Furina, which is inconsistent with how the traveler has been portrayed so far. - Neuvilette initially seems very dismissive of her but suddenly seems to care around Act 3-4. And no explanation is given. - Fontaine Archon Quest had higher stakes and a spectacular finale, but in terms of writing consistency is a step back from Sumeru.

[@ColdArtsy]

@@LuisBrito-ly1koYeah I pretty much agree with all that. It’s still the best overall AQ imo but it definitely wasn’t as perfect as everyone makes it out to be. Frankly Furina, Nuevilette, and Focalor carry most of the quest with how interesting they are as characters. It’s definitely a recency bias along with how amazing the final half of Act V was that makes it seem much better than it actually is.

[@LuisBrito-ly1ko]

@@ColdArtsy I disagree with it being the best overall, though this is obviously preference: Besides the errors listed and others I didn’t, the end was bittersweet; it was not a full blown happy ending, especially for Furina who arguably got the worst end of the whole affair. I too think that Act V’s finale is what carried the entire thing ( which was essentially a chained reaction of big reveals and stuff such as Furina’s divine half, Focalors and her suicide, Skirk, Furina’s role in everything, etc. ). And I also agree that recency bias plays a role.

[@18andcloudy]

There's literally like 5-6 genshin clones in develop now, I feel this period will be known as the Gacha drought, essentially the uncontested calm before all the other devs finally catch up having realized the potential. That said I think genshin is a fine game, but you can really only play it for a few months until you despise it's very existence for having lured you in with gradual level ups that literally go nowhere, and gacha rates and free pulls that make you feel like a medieval peasant begging for scraps.

[@bloody4558]

Speak for yourself. So far the only people I see hating on the game, are people who were never their target audience

[@Vekysus]

​@@bloody4558who's they target audience? People that like mini games? That's not on they website, the game is described as any open world action RPG with Co-op, and none of that is really good, are you blaming people for being told lies?

[@deathmetalcakefarts2751]

Beautifully articulated and exactly why I quit after pulling a QIQI I said wow this game doesn’t respect their players AT ALL.

[@Anvitzi]

@@Vekysus Game is for casuals. Nothing more, nothing less.

[@Vekysus]

@@Anvitzi as someone that play Fighting games, if you are casual good for you and I think every game should be made for Casuals in some extent But that is not the point, if I buy elden ring with the promise that it would be a open world souls games but it turned out that I have to collect balloons 90% of the game that's a problem and also shows the devs lack actual talent to create the content they tried to sell This has nothing to do with casuals vs hardcores

[@facehugger8995]

genshin at this point is just the beta test for honkai

[@lindapao350]

For now, one of the only edges Genshin Impact has over Honkai star Rail is the story. But I do hate it when people say genshin's stories are WAY better than Honkai's. Honkai star rail hasn't even been out for a year while it's senior has been out for about 3 years. I think Honkai Star Rail just needs time for it's story to develop.

[@Ennryuo]

That is the only thing genshin fambois have. i guess genshin devs just can't disappoint them with that otherwise they will have nothing to beef other games🤣

[@SovermanandVioboy]

@@Ennryuo Ye.. they only thing. That and the Gameplay, the World, the Worldbuilding, the Charakters... but besides that its only the Story, correct.

[@palientologist]

Genshin will only change if Chinese players start quitting it en masse because another game becomes Genshin, but better. I guarantee you that Genshin is waiting for Wuthering Waves and Project Mugen to release and start stealing its players to see if they need to pull the ripcord with new endgame content, artifact loadouts, repeatable events, etc. Until true competition comes out, Genshin has no reason to change.

[@nicolasprzasnyski2114]

Its not too late... its too late for tectone. He doesnt wanna play genshin... thats fine we have good content creators keep him on starrail.

[@darkmaster4994]

Right.. So the title of the video is meant to be bait but fine I'll bite.. Honkai will forever be a game that has more QoL and End game content etc. And it will continue to add more. Genshin won't. Because genshin is the better game and it has the numbers to back it up. And they don't have to make players happy all the time like Honkai does.. Honkai launched in may and it had 31m players in june.. Then it lost 12% of the players in july.. Then another 15% at August.. By September honkai was down to 22m players.. And it keeps hovering around 22-24m players.. By comparison genshins biggest loss of players ever was 5%.. And it hovers around 65m. Genshin had around 20m players at launch and it just kept going up and up. And it still keeps going up. Honkai has to fight for their players, genshin doesn't.. And if the counter argument here is gonna be "honkai lost players because of slow patches" how are patches RIGHT AFTER LAUNCH so bad that the game lost 30% of players during them? Im not saying Honkai is a bad game. Im just saying purely as a game genshin is better.. Its more fun for more people.. And that's pretty much undeniable when you just look at the numbers.. It started at 20m players and 6 months later it had 30m.. Honkai started at 31m and 6 months later it was at 22m.. Based on that you can tell which game is more appealing to players.. And on top of that honkai constantly keeps making the game better! Things that genshin players have been asking for for years have been in honkai since launch. And still it keeps loosing players! At their cores genshin is a better more fun game. There is no denying that.

[@thomaskennedy5728]

Honkai star rail gets boring easily because of its gameplay. I don't understand why so many player boasts about endgame content when even the content which comes before endgame is not doing well. There is filler after filler updates. Also they need to give them more reward every update because there is not many ways to earn primogems unlike genshin impact. If they don't,then players wouldn't even able to pull a single character.

[@KhoiNguyen-xv4jd]

@@thomaskennedy5728tell me you don’t play Genshin early patch without saying you don’t play Genshin early patch. Mate, the game have zero and i do mean zero interesting story line like at all. The loot and artifacts system was fucking terrible. Hell, if you want numbers, HSR destroyed GI patch after until 1.6 with Argenti and HouHou because players didn’t completely understand their kits so now if they got a rerun they will do number. Also without new endgame what point of building your new characters? At least with HSR, all characters have a use, hell most SU challenge mode unless you cheese the system, you would prioritize more on defensive play more than big damage go brrrrr. The variety of endgame gives players incentive to build new characters.

[@peckneck2439]

Starrail's daily blows Genshin's out of the water by simply allowing you to get points by grinding the domains. In genshin you get daily points by opening chests or doing quest which sucks because after a while chests become scarce and quests take time. Starrail on the other hand allows you to gain daily points by doing your trailblaze power grinding so by using a support character from your friend's list and doing like two rounds of grinding you'll get enough points to collect your 60 jades. Not to mention in starrail you don't have to go to a specific point on the map like in genshin(adventure guild) just to get your bonus. To sum it up dailies in Genshin take 5-15 minutes depending on where the quests are, what kind of quests you get and also accounting for the time it takes for you to teleport around the map, walk to the quest objectives and then travel back to the guild. In Starrail it can take 2-5 minutes since it cuts down on a lot of pointless walking.

[@peckneck2439]

@Youngfan005 whatever, genshin could never lmao

[@hysteria8455]

No matter how hard star rail tries it wont ever cross genshin impact ,no matter how much Tectone tries to milk genshin impact content😂 props to him for making videos that suits the algorithm

[@gameguy1337]

And I for one am glad all the children stay to the Genshin side. I want Genshin to be the more popular game since it just makes HSR better and more pleasant lol.

[@hysteria8455]

@@gameguy1337 Lol the dude who u are watching used to play the game , dumb of you to classify all players as "children" , not your fault i guess you dont seem to be utilising your brain to the full extent

[@itsprincebri]

i wont lie, that was the biggest issue when genshin released sumeru, forcing players to play dendro.

[@SilanTheTactician]

Competition will be the key driver for innovation in this genre Genshin occupies. Just not for Genshin. They've held the lion's share for so long and bred a rabid base of loyal customers that no competitor is going to provide the pressure for them to improve. They'll do what they want, how they want, and laugh their way all the way to the bank. The new bloods coming up, however, don't have that luxury. I'd expect them to take a route similar to HSR, where they will continuously develop their game to offer more than the competition and siphon away what they can.

[@Fraudkuna]

i quit, i tried to get a 5* bow for the third time. I tried to get Aqua Simulacra (lost to homa, nobody uses it on my account) i tried to get elegy ( got my 2nd Aquila favonia ) and now i tried to get Thundering pulse ( got engulfing lightning, my raiden is EM built.) the weapon banner is thrash. at least HSR *ACTUALLY* guarantees you get the next 5* weapon in case you missed the last one. the grind is not rewarded and my time was wasted. I'm not giving them money again.

[@gameologian7365]

The long dailies that required focus play for genshin is what made me quit.

[@nub727]

5 minutes is too long? You know what's long is running simulated universe for the 8 billionth time.

[@fart4453]

Might have to stop watching tectone, I get where he’s coming from but atp I just want to enjoy the game because I genuinely like the “shitty” mini games, story, and characters. If that makes me a sheep so be it but it’s fun to run around fighting silly little guys

[@evilmiyoho6742]

Nobody asked

[@fart4453]

@@evilmiyoho6742that’s such a childish comment but I changed my opinion with his newer video I forget how good tectone does for hsr community. But please find it in yourself you shouldn’t be disrespectful that’s not what this community is about

[@JynnTheFox]

I quit both games. My wallet has never been happier

[@maphewyt2036]

I downloaded genshin 2 months before HSR came out. I'm level 54 on Genshin and mixed out in HSR already. I've played the main story in genshin but at the moment I'm trying to get through the character quests (Key words "trying to get through"). The dialogue in some of these quests is just way too much. And to be honest the main quest has been rough because it's never about trying to find your sister/brother but rather just learning about the world. The only link that it brings to your sister is the 3 minute cutscene at the end or that one dialogue option you can ask about her. To be honest if they ever start to bring an end to the main story. No matter what happens when your sibling comes into it. It will feel extremely rushed or will most likely make 80% of everything you have done, be worthless. Or they will just make it that Paimon is the evil chick's good side and there will be a question about restarting the world to before the change or keeping it as it is which will go against the sibling. And then they will ruin it by making her having an evil inside her rather then it being a moral choice.

[@darkhydra4262]

Ngl Ive been so tempted to spend money on hsr, not because I want pulls, but because I want to support the developers and tell them with my wallet "thanks for not being Genshin."

[@JustGre3d]

FR! Boutta buy the battle pass and monthly thing just to thank them though kinda sad to let go of my F2P status

[@ballsackman7796]

I mean spend your money however you want, but since they are under the same company that money still being touched by someone who made genshin the way it is

[@souland3566]

You're literally supporting the same company though lmao

[@darkhydra4262]

@@ballsackman7796 totally valid point, though I dont mind telling a company making poor past decisions "hey I appreciate the new direction" kinda like no man's sky turning theirselves around. (Tho im not trying to say mihoyo is a team of angels either, just that star rail is a game I am happy with and hope to see more of).

[@Mugen_m]

​@@ballsackman7796 That's like saying if you buy One Piece volumes you are supporting the Mangaka of Naruto and not Oda, because they are published by the same company. You do know that in some companies some teams may compete with each other, while the developers may earn more than the other team based on the amount of money they brought to the company.

[@ScarletGaming95]

I'm only playing Genshin for the story, I play events enough to guarantee Archon's and then I am done till next patch

[@azharyyie]

Genshin felt like an ad game with some cool paper lores and non in-game lores. Star Rail we can still embrace the dangers and entering big fights that takes a while to finish.

[@mrwhisa]

So you mean to say that a game is only a real game when it has a high difficulty? So why does Genshin have 3x more players than HSR? It's funny that you call it an AD Game since between the two, Genshin is the only one that you manually play. HSR is a great game, but you watch it more than you actually play it.

[@ziebus904]

So if fight takes 30 min its good .....being stupid must be nice

[@lv99redmage]

Recently tried to get into Genshin after having played HSR since launch. Got to Sumeru after about a month of playing and lost interest. Story is fine, areas are beautiful but mechanically the game got dull. Dailies, resin, 48 hour respawn time for character ascending mats, etc. I enjoyed it all for a bit but it felt like I needed to invest too much time daily to just maintain it.

[@716_ハディくん]

finally someone got it needed wayyyyyyyyy too much time

[@gammrho]

Me personally, I think Genshin’s immersion needs work. We’re in the middle point of the game and I still think the immersion could improve. A neat thing that could motivate players more is that Hoyo should show where the characters live in their nation. The teapot is nice but that’s the players’ space. Where do these people live? Let players hang out at their homes. Depending on the friendship level they have as a playable unit determines how comfortable the characters are having Traveler around. Yeah we have the hangout events but, I think those could have been delivered better. It’s a stretch to make these characters have self awareness but, I think it would be neat feature to improve Genshin’s uniqueness. But that would mean reworking the map layout, building structures and everything else, which I know Hoyo won’t do… Would be nice but that opportunity is out the window.

[@ColdArtsy]

Speaking of immersion. What we desperately need is for the Traveler to talk more. HSR does it all the time and it instantly makes it a more immersive experience. There is quite literally no reason to not have them speak at least half the time.

[@gammrho]

@@ColdArtsy I totally agree… I hate it that Paimon gets to talk 99% of the time and Traveler gets 1%. Having them speak more would be a 10x better.

[@fishbol478]

@@ColdArtsy caelus/stelle voicing the crying cake cat is what sold me. I hope their va’s got paid extra cause damn that was beautifully entertaining 😂

[@xx_gotyopringles2163]

I've completely stopped playing genshin, im at the beginning of sumiru and I dont have plans of returning

[@F1ash1056]

ok

[@xx_gotyopringles2163]

@F1ash1056 if you truly ain't care you would've moved along without saying anything

[@F1ash1056]

@@xx_gotyopringles2163 ok

[@somecallmevic]

I've been an on and off Genshin player, but today I'm going to try out Star Rail (a free 5 star is unpassable tbh).

[@dandyshark6094]

Hope u have fun ingame🎉

[@HonkaiStarRailVideos]

Hope you enjoy it. Wish you luck on the banners.

[@Drewblu22]

They need to add some damn animals or robots for traveling , all this massive amount of land fa nothing

[@rimaru321]

You know they could make it so for the hsr 1 year anniversary they give u a random standard banner 5 star and like a ten pull for limmited banner in our mail box

[@Zap_09]

0:20 Everytime I see this clip of Dr.Ratio I can not help but smile

[@Natsuke1104]

As someone who plays both, id say that both are inferior to nikke.

[@bunbun283]

Off topic but if Tectone really thought that Albedo's story are the best across all Hoyo's games then he is simply wrong. Like that one guy said in the chat "*in Genshin" not "in Hoyoverse". Objectively, the best story goes to HI3 and second goes to Genshin and last is HSR.

[@kurokamionce1802]

Genshin needs to improve a lot, but u are really biased toward HSR and really salty with GI 😅

[@sunflowerhairpin3279]

As a lot of veteran Genshin players should be. We've been ignored for 2+ years now...

[@nub727]

@@sunflowerhairpin3279 This "We" you are talking about is actually the minority. All you mfs care about is the combat and want endless grindy endgame. Most genshin players will continue enjoying what the game was actually made for which is the story and open world and characters. I would literally keep playing even if they stopped giving primogems entirely, because I love the music, story and environments.

[@sunflowerhairpin3279]

@@nub727 Believe it or not I too once played mostly for story and whatnot, but with such slow progression and a painful grind mixed in between all for everything to be easy anyway (along with my disappointment in said story lately) I was getting completely fed up with it all. I'm far from the only one that feels this way too. The game was originally advertised to be a cool open world action RPG, and now it's little more than a glorified easy visual novel. We were lied to.

[@nub727]

@@sunflowerhairpin3279 The grind isn't painful for me because my standards for artifacts aren't stupidily high for no reason. KZbinrs act like you need perfect stats or your build sucks. It's the dumbest shit ever and I build my characters easily and they feel strong. You weren't lied to either they never promised they were gonna add some endless combat endgame. Most story based rpgs don't have anything like that. They have never changed the goal for the game since day 1. It's always been about the world building, characters, story etc. They are not making the game YOU want it to be. But for me and many others they are literally delivering exactly what we want.

[@CyborgNinjaJesus]

To be honest, seeing the numbers Genshin is pulling, MiHoYo could hire a whole studio of devs and have them exclusively working for half a year or a year on revamping the story and fixing all the things Tectone mentioned and the cost would probably look like a rounding error on their accounting books.

[@Koopa.2000]

Exactly, they could make genshin an hell of a game but they dont trr

[@ballsackman7796]

@@Koopa.2000 cause the Chinese fan base don’t see a problem

[@siege_sensei]

@ballsackman7796 That's why most gamers call them bug men.

[@Fraudkuna]

nope, they'd rather do pointless and expensive concerts instead of improving the game. these QoLs just now coming and it took them three years, some of this stuff came with HSR 1.0.

[@dandyshark6094]

Well maybe they can start to not making many concert , so they can use the money for improving game

[@e_0429]

genshin ppl relationship to the GI dev is like talking to the wall whatever ppl say dev will keep with their own track, no matter the good impact for the game improvement based on GI ppv view, anyway rip 💀

[@malificajones7674]

I think as Honkai Impact 3rd started to wind down, they must have transferred the best devs to develop Honkai Star Rail. The team there was very responsive to player complaints, and was constantly improving the game to eliminate problems. The other issue is that Genshin Impact really is Hoyoverse's cash cow. I bet there's a massive amount of reluctance by senior management to make any decisive changes to the game that might impact the revenue stream.

[@Gytis_Of_KFP_The_4th_PenKing]

idk what you talking about..imo hi3 still going like it always did

[@goddessofchaos2679]

Ummm no Honkai it’s still going and getting better… the devs are probably the same ppl

[@awatcher4965]

Isn't hi3 about to literally start some sort of overhaul with its system and story, or already did? It's basically like a 2.0 of the entire game, not just patches. I think it's not that bad that hi3 and hsr share the same team while they work on both games, because it means that ideas will bounce between each game much more easily, and that's amazing

[@thrlathrla1526]

Blud what are you talking about hi3 literally getting overhaul for part 2

[@Super-7327]

HI3 fell off ever since Otto died, although i drew the line when Elysia came along... You can really tell how the light source that HI3 had, has been completely extinguished in part 2, it's just a shell of what the game was, they couldn't even bother to make any iconic animation past Moon Arc...and that arc was absolutely dreadful... The team working on HI3 got ripped apart and sent over to the others more popular Mihoyo games. HI3 is just a corpse walking begging to be put a rest, they even recycled Elysia's design on part 2, hoping to capitalise on her again, as if she hadn't done enough damage already.

[@Nanii_nani]

so about the events, im pretty sure that they said in a live stream (either 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3 cant remember) that we will have permanent events in the future, which is a W but i think its probably going to be like the windtrace hide and seek or the domain creation rather than something like dragonspine event, GAA , or the recent musketeers event etc, and i highly doubt major festivals (windblume, lantern rite etc) are going to be permanent but i could be wrong

[@Thedoorway123]

Yea that's not gonna happen calling it know

[@mrwhisa]

​@@Thedoorway123you can look for yourself , dev talk before 3.8.

[@Zetsubou-69420]

I know genshin is worse than hsr in QOL but if the leaks are correct and the Artifact loadout works like we think they do, its probably gonna be the biggest and the best QOL update ever added to genshin

[@evilmiyoho6742]

Except it still lacks endgame content.

[@Zetsubou-69420]

@@evilmiyoho6742 well yeah but I have already come to terms with that. I just login for story now....

[@tsrndn]

Yea gnsn community is crazy, I brought up how building characters in Genshin is so slow because we can only farm one of the weekly bosses once a week instead of three times like HSR and there are three different drops instead of one which are randomly generated while dream solvent is a rare drop, and 75% of the replies I receive call me stupid or saying that it's a good system and to deal with it like bro HSR devs knew gnsn weekly boss system has problems which is why they did it differently in HSR... the amount of hoyo bootlicking is insane here, like do you not want the game to do better?????

[@guiltylegion7037]

Yea definitely there will be 5 Star Selector for HSR anniv. It's a Honkai Game, gonna 100% gets Honkai Treatment.

[@GetConfused8r0]

Lightcones or event?

[@bwub__]

ik genshin is rly bad but the fontaine quest is peak (besides fortress of meripede)

[@easy8237]

Tectone literally turn from a Genshin lover to a Genshin basher. Now everything Genshin do he hates. Yes. Genshin have its flaws. But it is still 1 of the best game out there. The world is beautiful and the story quest is great. The characters is well made. For example klee. No1 really uses her. But she is still 1 of the most like character in the game.

[@evilmiyoho6742]

Wrong. He criticises the game's issues while you conform with everything because you are a normie and you don't care about genshin. While we do.

[@easy8237]

@@evilmiyoho6742 The tone and body language in this video does not show that he likes the game. I do agree we can criticise the game as it is the way for the game to improve but then again his tone is that he downright despises the game. He even called out the world exploration, portion which I think that's what made many people luv genshin.

[@Justice10927]

Enjoy playing a game that never changes same end game content since release 😂

[@evilmiyoho6742]

@@easy8237 He despises the current state of the game, like every genshin fan.

[@animusdemifiend2307]

I dropped after they dropped the big bombs in 2022, april. The fact they are forcing the dmg ceiling and grabbing onto the brainlet train just reinforce the idea.

[@Kyo-AI]

still casually play genshit but exploration is such a pain

[@Thedoorway123]

Then don't play come to hsr

[@nub727]

If you think exploring in genshin is a pain wait until you are forced to do simulated universe for the 8 billionth time.

[@Thedoorway123]

@@nub727 cope

[@nub727]

@@Thedoorway123 says u

[@Bllssxfull]

Or you know just play which game you like more? 🙄 they are both great games....

[@ziebus904]

You must be dumb then

[@lonewanderer1249]

Genshin Impact community is the only one where if you even talk about improving the game in anyway they will just attack you blind no question asked.

[@zoheirzozo2765]

So true

[@nub727]

What actually happens is people relentlessly shit on genshin and it's players and when genshin players clap back they are like "omg i'm just saying how the game could improve, why are you attacking me?!!"

[@lonewanderer1249]

@@nub727 if something is truly good no one will try to shit it. And hey if asking for better reward from the most successful gacha of all time is shitting then your not right in the mind. You don't even know what real shitting is at this point.

[@nub727]

@@lonewanderer1249 There is not a single game in existence that does not have haters. Genshin got shit on day 1 for being an anime gacha game. It literally gets shit on by the greater gaming community when they haven't even played it. And they shit on HSR for the same reasons. I never said "Asking for better reward" is shitting on it. You are putting words in my mouth. Maybe your english is not good enough to understand.

[@lonewanderer1249]

@@nub727 did you read my comment properly too then?? I talked about genshin white knights who just go after you if you say the game can improve. HSR is living example that genhsin can be better.

[@Kojiro3210]

I guess you can give genshin ONE thing by adding an auto complete and redeploy system for expeditions. At the same exact time, however, they still make you travel to talk to Kathryne to interact with the expedition system or finish your dailies. HSR, you can do either from anywhere. That's time saved overall. Its pretty likely HSR add the complete/redeploy all buttons pretty soon, anyway. theyre more on top of new qol updates. All other things finally updated sych as artifact, weapon, and character leveling/ascention was copied from HSR. And its good they copied it because its one thing people have wanted in Genshin that they put into Star Rail first.

[@lesterism]

Star Rail>Genshin Impact. Coming fron a genshin player.

[@sunflowerhairpin3279]

SAME

[@Snackrap]

Hsr made a smart move. Keeping fomo by having limited even rewards that you cant collect if u miss the event.

[@tsalapbeew]

I got tired of GI and left it during the Raiden Mei Arch, heck I haven't even fought her as the final boss form or whatever 😂

[@digduck9463]

Stop playing GI or at least stop giving them money.

[@arceptor]

no@@digduck9463

[@F1ash1056]

@@digduck9463 why? I lke GI

[@maskedlucina5574]

Bro same I just defeated Raiden Mei and left the game completely I struggled but managed lmao all I can say for my time on Genshin Impact was fun while it lasted tho 😅

[@Salty_Gacha_Gamer]

Yea, I realised Genshin isn't gonna change after the 1st year Anniversary. I still can't give up on the part of me which wished that Genshin could've been a really good game, GOTY material. But it's not and it just breaks my heart

[@luisgerardoperezramirez3116]

In the end we still debating why the Turn base game is better than the open world game? This debate always end up with tastes rather than something else. The player base of genshin is way bigger for what the game offers (multiplayer, open world, events, lore) and most important point, an easy game. Star Rail is a turn base game, one player, more close map and keep putting content harder and harder, people i read had issues with the new weekly boss. No matter how much generous the devs are with the community, the people will play better genshin for what i say. More gifts doesnt make better game, if that's the case, a lot of gacha games out there easily crush genshin and star Rail together. In my opinion this debates are useless.

[@AmplifiedMayhem]

I’ve been composing hi3 to gi since day 1 as to why the qol features from hi3 weren’t carried over? Just for example the daily login rewards are in game for hi3 but you have to get a separate app for genshin? They’ve been working backwards always. Honkai dev teams are infinitely better than genshin dev team; however the genshin marketing team is better unfortunately

[@TemplarianYT]

Another teccy banger