Penacony 2.2 Full Story Explained! Ena Of Order & The Watchmaker - Honkai Star Rail Lore & Theory

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Penacony Full Story Explained! Ena's Dream & The Watchmaker - Honkai Star Rail 2.2 Lore & Theory

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@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 13 күн бұрын
The cult vibes that we all thought originated from the Harmony was actually coming from the Order not the Harmony, oh Blessed Xipe may you forgive us
@arnowisp6244
@arnowisp6244 13 күн бұрын
Makes sense. Order wants Control. Xipe Harmony seems to be a Willing Harmony.😊
@dachosens1
@dachosens1 13 күн бұрын
@@arnowisp6244 yea, i mean the aeons are so far along their paths they are consumed by it so it makes sense, harmony is harmonious while order desires order
@dontshitontravelermains5498
@dontshitontravelermains5498 12 күн бұрын
We basically been wrongfully accused of Xipe by tainted their image in such a bad way lol
@user-fd4yf2dy3i
@user-fd4yf2dy3i 12 күн бұрын
@@arnowisp6244 There are records that Xipe affected a certain galaxy and made them all become members of the family. There is probably brainwashing in this. There is no good or evil in the Aeons, everything is for their destiny, but Xipe is more suitable for this era than Ena.
@RazeluxeMeitzen7
@RazeluxeMeitzen7 11 күн бұрын
Cult vibes do indeed come from Harmony through Ode of Harmony, what Beyond Sky Choir did is hijacking the Ode to summon Septimus through dissonance of Order
@RoyalTfrii
@RoyalTfrii 13 күн бұрын
Missed opportunity for him to say "I WILL HAVE ORDER!" In his phase 3 ultimate attack
@LunaticTrumpet
@LunaticTrumpet 13 күн бұрын
That would have been amazing
@raphezar2049
@raphezar2049 13 күн бұрын
Very cool he got those biblical references, though. I mean, he's an angel named 'Sunday', but I didn't expect him to pull a parallel of seven days of Genesis and The Creation of Adam painting
@gustavju4686
@gustavju4686 13 күн бұрын
​@raphezar2049 Yeah. The Order thing reminded me of living under the law vs living under grace.
@blancka4200
@blancka4200 12 күн бұрын
​@@raphezar2049 wait what, demnnnnn. I wanna know more about this now....
@MrZombiepvz
@MrZombiepvz 12 күн бұрын
@@raphezar2049 Yeah, even thought I'm not christian, I got the references instantly. Sundae is one of the coolest character so far, especially the fact he uses latin.
@310nip
@310nip 13 күн бұрын
"wow that ending felt pretty rushed. how is everyone happyand somehow jing yuan is here too?" black swan: this was all a dream "ok wtf"
@v0id
@v0id 12 күн бұрын
Fucked me up fr, i got sumeru samsara vibes
@Uhgothopt
@Uhgothopt 12 күн бұрын
I literally went "Hol up... why does this mf only have 1 hp bar... It cant be this easy, right? Sure?" I kept going like "Im trapped in a mangekyo sharingan or smthing cuz this shit be going all to smoothly"
@SaturdayParker
@SaturdayParker 11 күн бұрын
​@@UhgothoptI should've known I stay not building my characters
@ThelordHayden34
@ThelordHayden34 11 күн бұрын
My brain did an error 404
@stevet6975
@stevet6975 10 күн бұрын
Yea i knew something was so off and felt that it wasnt real when i saw we could choose the next stop. See what hoyo did there? They made a survey using the plot lol. I think the next destinations will be from those 4
@GreatChicken2
@GreatChicken2 13 күн бұрын
Of course Order would want Nihility gone. Nihility is right there showing the futility of maintaining order.
@jackfdhunter7036
@jackfdhunter7036 11 күн бұрын
Yeah I agree. Look at Rick Sanchez and that's actually an accurate statement
@Black.Spades
@Black.Spades 10 күн бұрын
Nihility is a kind of antithesis to every Path.
@jadepuguon1177
@jadepuguon1177 5 күн бұрын
​@@Black.Spadesif i remember correctly, Acheron said that Nihility encompasses all beings after death, even Aeons.
@localdrugseller6431
@localdrugseller6431 4 күн бұрын
@@jadepuguon1177 Well duh afterlife doesn't exist in hoyoverse
@rainnyseason64
@rainnyseason64 13 күн бұрын
Aha is the embodiment of "We do a little trolling"
@Rietto
@Rietto 13 күн бұрын
Motto of Aha: "All for the Lulz"
@ReaTheReal
@ReaTheReal 12 күн бұрын
for the funniez
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 12 күн бұрын
corrupted order
@jackfdhunter7036
@jackfdhunter7036 11 күн бұрын
I think its being more than a bit of trolling
@zenshin6941
@zenshin6941 10 күн бұрын
Aha is embodiment of Troll face
@Rietto
@Rietto 13 күн бұрын
Herta asks a question at the end of SU's Swarm Disaster: "If the Propagation is truly dead, why are there still Swarm members roaming around?" it's another mystery regarding the concept of 'Aeon death'. Maybe we'll get to figure that answer out eventually, as well.
@christopherchuauhang4829
@christopherchuauhang4829 13 күн бұрын
The Aeon of Trailblaze is also missing and considered dead.
@user-sb3zb3tk1y
@user-sb3zb3tk1y 13 күн бұрын
@@christopherchuauhang4829same as beauty
@gamergurl3648
@gamergurl3648 13 күн бұрын
I mean, the aeons are like an embodiment of their respective paths, but not the paths themselves. The concepts still exist whether or not they’re alive
@Rietto
@Rietto 13 күн бұрын
@@gamergurl3648 The Swarm were literally born from Tazzy, though; I don't think we have met an Aeon that created their own species rather than ascending from an already-existing one... if the swarm members are all basically parts of Tazzy themself, then the fact they are still alive could mean any of them might re-ascend into another Tazzy at any moment, no?
@gamergurl3648
@gamergurl3648 13 күн бұрын
@@Rietto ohhhh yeah good point. I guess it’s a little more complicated in Tazzy’s case then
@Doflaminguard
@Doflaminguard 12 күн бұрын
Sunday doesnt become an Aeon but a battery to run the Stellaron Dream. He volunteered himself so Robin wont have to do it.
@Kian-fm4uk
@Kian-fm4uk 11 күн бұрын
He almost became one, read the description on the 3rd phase it said the with the power of harmony and order cultivate an egg of philosophy
@todd2.08
@todd2.08 10 күн бұрын
He was literally mantling Ena in his 3rd phase becoming it
@Doflaminguard
@Doflaminguard 10 күн бұрын
@@todd2.08 cant revive Ena because Ena is already within Xipe. Sunday could at most be a battery of a dead Aeon's dreams. He also cant be an Aeon because he has attachment to his sister. He couldnt fully embody Order.
@xiaolv1836
@xiaolv1836 9 күн бұрын
@@Kian-fm4uk he can't as order is assimilated which the path itself become harmony, unless ena death is like long so you can dismantle more narrow path from them like how propagation born
@mobyhuge4346
@mobyhuge4346 13 күн бұрын
I'm actually interested on what Argenti's goal was coming into Penacony even saving Adventurine at one point, sounds like he was picking up the scraps behind the scenes
@starsoveraugust
@starsoveraugust 12 күн бұрын
Right. I can't believe all we get is some sentence telling us aventurine was saved. No explanation. I wanted to know where he went and how he got back
@haninjamaxflare555
@haninjamaxflare555 11 күн бұрын
Didn't they implied it in his story quests? An IPC members he saved wants him to be a star i think, and here he is on penacony, tho i do wonder why they left out that part about him saving aventurine
@sai_neko_reddy
@sai_neko_reddy 11 күн бұрын
​@@haninjamaxflare555i mean he doesn't know we know aventurine and we didn't knew he knew aventurine so yeah...
@babyfinesse_
@babyfinesse_ 10 күн бұрын
Bro is trying to be a decent 5*
@CTheng
@CTheng 10 күн бұрын
He was invited along with the other factions to enjoy the festivity. But he was preoccupied with saving people along the way; that is why he is late. Among the people he saved, it just so happens to include Aventurine.
@stereotomono803
@stereotomono803 12 күн бұрын
Are we not gonna talk about how aventurines eyes are the same as the satisfied puppets in enas dream. The whole giathra relation is messy atm. So far there are three dieties associated with "threes", xipe, ena, giathra in this arc
@jadepuguon1177
@jadepuguon1177 5 күн бұрын
I think it's more likely Ena. Ena = Giathra triclops. Because there's a line in Aventurine's prayer that said "may your schemes forever concealed." I don't think Xipe is the one scheming anything.
@stereotomono803
@stereotomono803 5 күн бұрын
@@jadepuguon1177 the problem with that theory is how ena is able to give aventurine good luck when she is dead. Ena is the aoen of order so I don't think schemes are part of that path
@user-ku8yi5to4f
@user-ku8yi5to4f 13 күн бұрын
One thing to note is that Gallagher follows enigmata out of necesity, not for their wacko ideals
@KoenSkySea
@KoenSkySea 12 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s cool that he’s not part of some group of freaks, but that he’s an actual fictionologist for the sake of fulfilling a job without getting fucked over by the people he’s infiltrating
@Koscacio
@Koscacio 12 күн бұрын
Ironic, consider that also what Mythus try to do. If Nous are left alone, it will eliminate Chaos, and along with it, Hope. So Mythus create as much Chaos as possible in hope of the infinity allow the Impossible, thus give chance to life again the Un-Surpassable. Misinformation Spread Succesful?¿?
@user-ku8yi5to4f
@user-ku8yi5to4f 12 күн бұрын
@@Koscacio i don't think so , misinformation Will always hurt people, i think the reason the Mythus and her followers are doing this is because of some weakness of spirit, ala persona 4 where the truth Will always hurt but also liberates You to become better but the enigmata use this as a copium mechanism for the pain of their own truth. I think thats why Gallagher doesnt fall to that shit is for that , he Made peace with himself long time ago and is a good reason why is an abundance pathstrider but a follower of enigmata, the first is his true path and self and the latter a means to an end
@vincikeeper1581
@vincikeeper1581 12 күн бұрын
​​​​@@user-ku8yi5to4f agreed, mythus is most unpredictable and harmful (not physically) aeon, (Aha too, there's literally no reason behind his motives, just having chaotic fun). And kinda useless, too. Despite destruction's obvious "harmful" ways, destruction can be useful, for example destroy war, destroy virus and etc. Mythus? Any spread misinformation is harmful, for good cases or not, because people need to know the truth and move forward based on that truth.
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 12 күн бұрын
​@@user-ku8yi5to4fenigmata is basically the counter to Nous's prediction
@ElectroNeko_GoldenGlow
@ElectroNeko_GoldenGlow 13 күн бұрын
I hope we find out soon what those buttons sparkle was handing out to everyone do
@Rietto
@Rietto 13 күн бұрын
I know right! What happened with that?!
@69summer69summer
@69summer69summer 13 күн бұрын
pretty sure it was just becausse she gave them out as "robin" so just gifts to the people
@sailortara7
@sailortara7 13 күн бұрын
I hope we finds out in the 2.3 update
@genesisofthebetween
@genesisofthebetween 13 күн бұрын
Weren’t those the mutual destruction buttons from 2.1?
@silverjuly9339
@silverjuly9339 13 күн бұрын
I'm like thinking she got bored of the plan? She's in the dream like everyone else and she gets to play chaos agent on Penacony, everyone pressed the button according to keikaku, and it was a happy ending for Sparkle. Now that everyone woke up, do the buttons still exist (or everything is reset?) or she's gonna redistribute the buttons again?
@sunnypa7101
@sunnypa7101 13 күн бұрын
Sunday and Dreammaster might seem to be the master manipulators of all time, but when we look deep into their schemes, they missed the smallest logic in their plans. Harmony can bring Order, but Order CANNOT bring Harmony.
@vietcuongnguyenle8530
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 13 күн бұрын
Their goal is not bring harmony
@honkai1424
@honkai1424 12 күн бұрын
But with harmony no one will hate order ​@@vietcuongnguyenle8530
@user-fd4yf2dy3i
@user-fd4yf2dy3i 12 күн бұрын
Sunday believes that harmony cannot make everyone happy, so he wants to control everyone through order to achieve the goal of making everyone happy.
@SolaireOfToast
@SolaireOfToast 11 күн бұрын
What actually happend to Dream Master now??
@vietcuongnguyenle8530
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 11 күн бұрын
@@SolaireOfToast the answer for this question is stay in the next patch
@tpv51
@tpv51 13 күн бұрын
Bruh i saw your eons video before 2.2 and can’t fucking believe you were right about ena lol. Great job dude
@khangho1993
@khangho1993 13 күн бұрын
What video was that? I’d like to watch that
@alanjimenez696
@alanjimenez696 12 күн бұрын
@@khangho1993The video is from a month ago and it’s called “Sunday true villain of penacony? Order in the dreamscape” that’s where he called all of this
@ardaoguzhan8181
@ardaoguzhan8181 12 күн бұрын
It was like one of the most obvious things everyone already knew this
@alanjimenez696
@alanjimenez696 12 күн бұрын
You’d be surprised with how many people didn’t think it was him or Ena the Order, there were many people who were sure it wasn’t him.
@robertocavalca3216
@robertocavalca3216 13 күн бұрын
Some people are saying the characters actually experienced the story's events twice. As in the chars experienced the story once without Misha appearing in the lobby at the start, then got defeated by Sunday, who threw them in Ena's dream in which they experienced the events of the story a second time (with Misha appearing in the lobby this time) and them defeating Sunday and having a happy ever after. Thoughts? I can't wrap my head around that.
@GettieJC
@GettieJC 13 күн бұрын
Some? You mean actual people playing the game? Or the NPCs? Because if you mean the first one I mentioned, i fought sunday twice and im so confused why and how. The end credits already rolled out and then it all happened again but this time it is not anymore in the grand theatre.
@sailortara7
@sailortara7 13 күн бұрын
I'm so confused
@Cursed_Jingliu
@Cursed_Jingliu 13 күн бұрын
Bro did not pay attention to the story at all 😂
@robertocavalca3216
@robertocavalca3216 13 күн бұрын
@@GettieJC what is this toxic response to someone trying to grasp the stories content. Repeating the events twice seems like a loop. Connections, bonds, and experiences are already established prior to fighting Sunday for the first time. I can understand them facing Sunday twice, it makes sense. But I can't fully wrap my head around the char's meeting twice, and going through the whole events of the story twice.
@robertocavalca3216
@robertocavalca3216 13 күн бұрын
@@Cursed_Jingliu share ur insight otherwise what's the point of your comment
@christopherchuauhang4829
@christopherchuauhang4829 13 күн бұрын
We also got a confirmation that Jing Yuan is an emanator. That was pretty dope.
@arionmoschetta
@arionmoschetta 13 күн бұрын
Dude I went for so many fights in HSR subreddit because of that. Everybody shitting on him even when was clearly he was blessed by an Aeon what makes him an Emanator
@obihz2415
@obihz2415 13 күн бұрын
​@@arionmoschettawe also get aeon blessing but we are not emanator in fact black swan Say jingyuan Is an "emanator" meaning his Power Is similar to that of an emanator but not a true emanator, emanator are much more rare than we think
@Giovansbilly
@Giovansbilly 13 күн бұрын
​@@obihz2415so you think he may still be in the same category as Aven and the other Stonehearts when they use their Cornerstones?
@Gesfalthe
@Gesfalthe 13 күн бұрын
Still pretty vague though. I know for certain that when words are enclosed between "quotations" in HSR, you know that it has deeper connotations. Also, you guys forget that Jing Yuan was never there and it was just Dan Heng's part of the dream. We never used the Jade Abacus. Him being absent is just another layer to the argument. I personally don't think JY is one. His Lightning Lord could either be an emanator itself, a gift from an Emanator, or something bordering the abilities of one.
@obihz2415
@obihz2415 13 күн бұрын
@@Giovansbilly yeah pretty mucho because they effataize a lot on emanator of they are
@exian5074
@exian5074 11 күн бұрын
About Sparkle. She was the first who discovered the secrets of Penacony among the outsiders
@danielhakim9485
@danielhakim9485 4 күн бұрын
Ratio and Firefly also discovered the secret, but the one who actually succeeded in proving it methodically was Firefly. And her encounter with Trailblazer as SAM's fight was supposed to be the secret revealation time but the Script and timing did not agree with her more peaceful approach as in Firefly form.
@lolosh99
@lolosh99 13 күн бұрын
5:20 Nihility seems like the ultimate kryptonite for all paths, remember what happened to Black Swan when she tried to use her path on Acheron?
@fathurrachman9498
@fathurrachman9498 13 күн бұрын
Yeah its because in philosophy nihilism is counter to any philosophy views and deny that everything has meaning. So imagine you colide that path into this dreamscape full of elation, remembrance, order, harmony,etc and you see nihility deny it all.
@godhimself7708
@godhimself7708 12 күн бұрын
Imagine what the MC will have to go through when its time to unlock the path of Nihility
@trouble1276
@trouble1276 12 күн бұрын
Because IX is the only quantum aeon
@harryharper5358
@harryharper5358 12 күн бұрын
​@@trouble1276now u mention that, Trailblazer Nihility could be Quantum and we could have that while working with a Doctor of Chaos (those who follows Nihility but is trying tho prove IX wrong)
@pizzavert4020
@pizzavert4020 12 күн бұрын
“Everything in the universe is bound by the prison of Existence, constrained by their body and mind and blinded by the world's superficial appearance. Even the most intelligent beings cannot comprehend this. Matter, order, logic, and life... Everything that makes up "reality" is but one side of the coin. On the opposite side, of equal entropy, there exists "nihility." The two balance each other to create the complete universe.” The Nihility seems to be one the broadest and strongest path along with the Equilibrium and maybe the Finality
@keikaruizawa919
@keikaruizawa919 13 күн бұрын
So that's why Boothill said that Acheron shouldn't have existed because he also believe the Intelligensia and Genius society that Nihility can't have an emenator
@cxfgjklihgfcvhjnknhjknvbvvcflk
@cxfgjklihgfcvhjnknhjknvbvvcflk 9 күн бұрын
Cuz IX shouldnt have emenator cuz he never glanses at anybody.
@localdrugseller6431
@localdrugseller6431 4 күн бұрын
@@cxfgjklihgfcvhjnknhjknvbvvcflk they do cast a meaningless glance every now and then. dont exactly remember where this was revealed though.
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 Күн бұрын
But there is always a work around. She is the SELF ANNIHILATOR, someone that saw her own people and world wiped out and decided to kill her own soul cause she realized how pointless all the life and traditions and culture she grew up in were in the end. It can all be wiped out and no one would remember it in an instant. So she annihilated her own soul.
@kaavyagarg458
@kaavyagarg458 13 күн бұрын
The moment you theorized about Sunday and Ena, I had this very strong gut feeling that you had hit the nail. And BANG! The 2.2 quest proved you right. Awesome stuff, friend!
@HartmansYokaiFactory
@HartmansYokaiFactory 13 күн бұрын
The biggest question 2.2 left open was Sparkles button. What the fuck was with the goddamn button
@arionmoschetta
@arionmoschetta 13 күн бұрын
What the hell was Sparkle doing there anyway? I just finished all the story and I still can't say for sure what role she played. I think as a Masked Fool she did her job pretty well. Confused the hell out of the player, revealed that Sampo does have a 5 star form coming and leave
@cloveangel
@cloveangel 13 күн бұрын
@@arionmoschettawait when did she reveal sampo’s form???? i hope so, i need a skippable patch
@msprettylovepink
@msprettylovepink 13 күн бұрын
@@arionmoschettasparkle was supposed to be a substitute for robin since she was missing and would still need to be there for the charmony festival
@everettjoseph6189
@everettjoseph6189 13 күн бұрын
I mean shes a true follower of aha in that nobody really knows what her agenda is and could possibly just to stir up trouble
@arionmoschetta
@arionmoschetta 13 күн бұрын
@@cloveangel Sampo asked her his mask back implying that he does have a mask, the most precious item for any Masked Fool and that he's hiding something much more complex. Sampo will have another form with his own mask
@Kamishi845
@Kamishi845 12 күн бұрын
Sunday developed the power of an Emanator thanks to the Stellaron which enhanced his powers. He says he does not want to resurrect Ena nor does he want to become an Aeon himself, he just deeply distrusts people being capable of knowing what's the best for them and others, so his solution is to become what's essentially a totalitarian dictator who will tell others on how to live their lives. He believes the weak will be incapable of ever becoming strong, so thus he must guide them so they avoid hurting themselves and others. He has a weird idea of on the one hand being realistic enough to understand that the world is unjust and unfair and it is a part of the nature of things, but also refuses to accept that it is also up to people to decide how to deal with that injustice, nevermind the fact that he doesn't acknowledge that he himself is fallible and may be wrong about what is the best choice in every situation. I found Sunday's writing to be very sympathetic, as he came across more as a person who became increasingly disillusioned with the nature of humanity and their aspirations towards being good people rather than being evil just because he could. He wanted power because in his mind it was the only way to save humanity from itself. It also seems to me that as long you have a strong will to follow a certain Path, that path will grant you power. Aeons are just embodiments of their Paths, or perhaps more accurately the distilled nature of their Paths, hence, as long as people believe in a Path, they can gain power from following that path. We for example don't know if Long is dead or alive and we know with certainty that Akivili is dead, yet the Trailblazers gain power of the Trailblaze and the Vidyadhara gain power from being disciples of Long as cloudhymn magic. Same is true for the Knights of Beauty following Idrila etc.
@WestProZ17
@WestProZ17 11 күн бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. The theories about him becoming a SRH is very curious. It opens up further growth on his character.
@aloywong658
@aloywong658 Күн бұрын
Imagine what if that the missing aeons are actually fighting a bigger threat outside the universe. Like Long, Akivili and Idrilla are the only aeons confirm missing and never got killed while other missing aeons are dead. Imagine they actually left the universe to go outside and deal with bigger threats which cut contact from the universe leading people to believe that long, Akivili and Idrilla are actually gone.
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 Күн бұрын
It was not just that. it was the 100k other members of the OAK family, the WHOLE of the oak family was the emanator with SUNDAY as the guiding consciousness.
@johnmanapol9734
@johnmanapol9734 13 күн бұрын
if nihility represents universal fear hence to penacony Acheron is the dream's nightmare
@treeckosaurus238
@treeckosaurus238 11 күн бұрын
idk if it actually represents universal fear itself, but rather inadvertently instills it instead. the concept of having everything and everyone be meaningless and without purpose would definitely ruffle most feathers
@drpaimon2369
@drpaimon2369 4 күн бұрын
​@@treeckosaurus238 But to some, it can be extremely liberating. That's how the real world philosophy works anyway. The philosophy was never about pessimism. Interestingly in more recent years "optimistic Nihilism" has become more popular. It's a philosophy pushed by Kurzgesagt for example. But originally, true Nihility always meant to encompass the optimistic part of Nihilism as well. "If everything is meaningless, everything has equal meaning." Therefore if you can accept nihilism, you can dictate meaning and purpose for yourself.
@ChozotheBozo
@ChozotheBozo 13 күн бұрын
"It was all just a dream" was too cliche to NOT be put in the story of the planet of dreams.
@theultrasillygoober
@theultrasillygoober 12 күн бұрын
and yet my ass still fell for that fakeout
@Nathsith
@Nathsith 11 күн бұрын
I think I suspect something is wrong when the boss is too easy I mean ffs he only have 1 bar of hp. I don't know why dev doesn't make him stronger
@Graficcha
@Graficcha 11 күн бұрын
I've never been happier to have been messed with. They found a great balance between plausible and 'this is getting wrapped up way too neatly' with the fake-out. I honestly wondered if they'd ran out of time and half-assed the ending, it makes you feel something isn't right about this but at the same time it plays out so perfectly 'pleasantly' that it's still something players can accept as 'this is ok for a story I guess :( ?' And then, *vindication* ahahahahaha~
@AdrianArmbruster
@AdrianArmbruster 13 күн бұрын
8:30 -- Speaking of Elio. The last phase (so far) of your Penacony dream tourism journal (y'know, that thing in the upper left of the pause menu) has another pointed question for you once it's all over -- and it seems the person asking these questions is someone who a) is familiar with Trailblazer from the past b) seems to know the exact order of events that will occur to TB when traversing Penacony and c) promises you'll meet up again once the current arc in Penacony is resolved.
@nica_wang
@nica_wang 13 күн бұрын
Elio follows Terminus the Aeon of Finality
@darknessknows1235
@darknessknows1235 12 күн бұрын
@@nica_wang ya'll need to stop saying headcanons and theories as fact
@nica_wang
@nica_wang 12 күн бұрын
@@darknessknows1235 Elio makes prophecies/scripts which is obviously within the scope of Finality. Remember how many players were saying Acheron was an Emanator of Finality but they all got proven wrong so badly 🤣🤣
@treeckosaurus238
@treeckosaurus238 11 күн бұрын
​@@nica_wang The point they made still stands lol
@nica_wang
@nica_wang 11 күн бұрын
@@treeckosaurus238 I'll be back when they announce Elio as the Emanator of Finality 😁😁
@thepoetsavenue6220
@thepoetsavenue6220 13 күн бұрын
Bro you called it! I remember the day you dropped that video about Ena of The Order and I took your advice and looked into the waking version of Penacony's map and saw it was The Order's insignia to a Tee! And keep up the awesome work my friend I love your videos!
@DarkButterflyChikage
@DarkButterflyChikage 13 күн бұрын
Aventurine deserves a promotion
@milliliters930
@milliliters930 13 күн бұрын
Erm, we kinda forgot that this Dream master guy (Gopher Wood) is kinda still out there somewhere...
@Giovansbilly
@Giovansbilly 13 күн бұрын
As well as Aven, Topaz and Jade
@aceleen_is_my_name_is_acel4995
@aceleen_is_my_name_is_acel4995 13 күн бұрын
skipper
@ivobanic4547
@ivobanic4547 13 күн бұрын
i thought he died, indicated by all those birds dying?
@vietcuongnguyenle8530
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 12 күн бұрын
@@ivobanic4547 nope, he just give up those body
@starsoveraugust
@starsoveraugust 12 күн бұрын
Also where is Gallagher or what is he?
@Blue-wk4wx
@Blue-wk4wx 13 күн бұрын
You called it my man! been waiting for this
@andrewlin6189
@andrewlin6189 13 күн бұрын
Congrats man! This is why I watch your videos!
@garnetportrait
@garnetportrait 13 күн бұрын
i found ena and her lore FASCINATING. kinda sad we didn’t get to see her resurrected or see if she’s actually good or bad. the 2.2 story was great but there were quite a few discrepancies and things they could have built on imo. great video though dude! ^^
@cathpalug1221
@cathpalug1221 13 күн бұрын
Imagine we get third node of su about ena
@genpotrait2274
@genpotrait2274 12 күн бұрын
There is no good or bad for an Aeon. Its just mortal thingy that take these kind of believe just because the "idealistic" is too extreme for mortal to comperhend.
@xingqiu1809
@xingqiu1809 12 күн бұрын
THEY'RE neither but all I could say is that if turning people into notes (puppets) to bring order, then I'm so glad Xipe devoured THEM
@sahilm483
@sahilm483 12 күн бұрын
All aeons are neutral. Its just that sometimes, the path becomes way too extreme and they deem it as "evil" for eg Nanook And in the latest update Ena
@BLOrtega
@BLOrtega 10 күн бұрын
Aeons aren't bound by things such as "good" or "bad", they embody the very path they represent even the most extreme ones. The Aeon of Preservation would seek to preserve existence even if his followers are evil, the Aeon of Abundance will grant immortality to anyone who follows her even if they turn insane, and the Aeon of Order would seek to preserve order even if people are stripped of their rights as human beings
@NihilRefertSubSole13
@NihilRefertSubSole13 12 күн бұрын
implying from the 2.2 ending, we might believe that Oswaldo Schneider is "Boss Alligator Stone" and is trying to get Asdana (penacony) again to the IPC. with all the paths complete in Penacony, it's time for the Annihilation Gang to finally step into the stage and we'll be doing the real Penacony Arc this time. the IPC Fleet is in Asdana's Orbit, and the Trailblaze has the beck and call of the Luofu Fleet, there will be an inevitable tension between all the parties.
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 Күн бұрын
Remember the IPC that is supposed to be about PRESERVATION, created that bomb that wiped out billions, we keep hearing stories about the IPC wiping out planets and peoples. Its almost like they have someone from DESTRUCTION in their ranks....similar to Phayntalia in the Lufo.
@Jaguar-t5
@Jaguar-t5 12 күн бұрын
@TheGamerChronicles999 Great video. Thoughts on Acheron saying "They used the Stellaron to catalyze the leakage of Asdana's memoria into the material world, allowing the Dreamscape to blend with reality" To me this was indicating that we were "awake" in a sense. We did walk into the hotel physically and get a room. Evidenced by the fact that when we wake up it's in the room and not the express, but it was already blending at that point so the influence of the Dreamscape had already begun.
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 11 күн бұрын
Yeah i thought this too
@dashhound8974
@dashhound8974 13 күн бұрын
Thats why u the goat man all theory videos are live and die by it so gotta feel nice to call it I personally didnt see that coming
@kacperwrona9280
@kacperwrona9280 12 күн бұрын
You said that Sunday wants to revive Ena or became Aeon himself which is not true, he himself said, that his plan is not to revive Ena or became an Aeon
@DanielDracohun
@DanielDracohun 9 күн бұрын
Yes and no. He tried to overtake/consume harmony into order, doing exatly what harmony did to order. Praticly same as reviving.
@localdrugseller6431
@localdrugseller6431 4 күн бұрын
He was on the process of ascending in the boss fight. He wanted to synthesize a new aeon between harmony and order.
@shyamsundar7737
@shyamsundar7737 12 күн бұрын
One of Sparkle's trailer kinda tells you what she's gonna do in Penacony. Tldr: She says that she'd help the 'hero' of the story and try to remain as a side character... BUT after the story ends, she'd start blowing up everything.
@izzaazzurri
@izzaazzurri 13 күн бұрын
So, misha actually the first playable characters that confirmed died
@xingqiu1809
@xingqiu1809 12 күн бұрын
I would not exactly define it as "died" Misha the bellboy never existed (in reality, he existed in dream) and only a fragment of memory of Mikhail who's long been dead
@izzaazzurri
@izzaazzurri 12 күн бұрын
@@xingqiu1809sure, i just mean that he disappeared or "died" in the story and doesn't seem to coming back anymore. Unlike tingyun that is unclear wether she will coming back in the story or not (based on the story, i know mihoyo said something about tingyun a while ago)
@drpaimon2369
@drpaimon2369 4 күн бұрын
What about Gallagher?
@rusPiglets
@rusPiglets 12 күн бұрын
Hope your night shifts go well. Yes. I do enjoy these videos. Kinda like talking to a friend once I finish the story myself.
@devilofgreed760
@devilofgreed760 13 күн бұрын
Dominicus wisher of the harmonious choir is a different “embodiment” than Aelenev Commander of the eternal centurion. I don’t know why Sunday ended up summoning Dominicus when he kept mentioning Aelenev
@garreonlefay6703
@garreonlefay6703 13 күн бұрын
His childhood dream. He told a young robin he would summon Dominicus
@Giovansbilly
@Giovansbilly 13 күн бұрын
​​@@garreonlefay6703Also Robin's trailer features a childhood drawing of Dominicus
@ericmogielnicki3101
@ericmogielnicki3101 12 күн бұрын
This was so helpful thank you, the Ena dream was hard for me to grasp :)
@rollerepic2107
@rollerepic2107 13 күн бұрын
The story contains a lot of deep logics and philosophies. People with different mind could have different understanding. To me, it is the choice between non-existing utopia and the non-perfect land of free. Suppose penacony is motivated from america, the story writters was showing their respect to the mayflower and founding fathers.
@yharnamiyhill787
@yharnamiyhill787 12 күн бұрын
I was glad meeting Misha at the beginning was the "clue," because, after the revelation, I thought it didn't make since if I saw Misha as a doorman at the beginning in the real world.
@Marbeary
@Marbeary 12 күн бұрын
Dan Heng and Boothill could do a buddy cop comedy or like a Shanghai Noon parody.
@ficeece
@ficeece 12 күн бұрын
thanks bro, there was so much poetry, i couldn't understand most of the stuff
@atumalaca5404
@atumalaca5404 12 күн бұрын
Best story quest so far, can't wait for a video talking about acheron
@nopputhihk848
@nopputhihk848 13 күн бұрын
They need to wrap up the whole IPC involvement, they invest in a lot. One of the cornerstone got broken, we know jade is coming so it has to mean sth.
@johnrivera9376
@johnrivera9376 13 күн бұрын
As a person who never played HI3, I would like to request for a breakdown on the easter eggs and links of HI3 and HSR in your next video. Kinda got lost during the Acheron and Welt convo
@hannahmew9194
@hannahmew9194 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for explaining this because I was so confused while playing it
@teanbooks9539
@teanbooks9539 13 күн бұрын
Too much Order eventually causes Stagnation and Decay.
@shijou2867
@shijou2867 13 күн бұрын
is this like inazuma
@teanbooks9539
@teanbooks9539 13 күн бұрын
@@shijou2867 Yes, however this “Order” is trying to use “Infinite Tsukuyomi” on everyone on Penacony, not sheer the force and stubbornness of the Shogun.
@Riyozsu
@Riyozsu 13 күн бұрын
​@@shijou2867more like that dream quest in Sumeru where the traveler lived the same day for long time. It was the academia controlling the dream the whole time.
@Sefocchi
@Sefocchi 13 күн бұрын
First of all thank you, I´m not able to read all of that since I play the big three games from MiHoYo so these videos are my kick now, second of all, thank to the lord that a found your channel, you deserve a medal.
@devasto8333
@devasto8333 13 күн бұрын
Still can't get over the fact that mikhail looks like holding a massive Rasengan in the tumbnail lol
@TsuchiGamer06
@TsuchiGamer06 9 күн бұрын
loved this patch. That final act was CRAZY good
@karinabatumbakalnaevissmit7637
@karinabatumbakalnaevissmit7637 13 күн бұрын
Robin is kinda sus in the story she said something about her voice weakens when the harmony is corrupted/weakens and the fact that the Family using Xipe as a cover as they worship Ena in Penacony answer it all I think she's a Emanator because she can feel Harmony itself also the fact that She lost her voice long ago and is now using the resonance of the Harmony to talk and sing gives some more info that she may be the Harmony Emanator because her power really speaks Harmony.
@Cursed_Jingliu
@Cursed_Jingliu 13 күн бұрын
Thats because she has the blessing of Xipe the Harmony. Just like how Fu Xuan has a blessing from Nous the Erudition despite not being an Emanator
@andiedandy
@andiedandy 13 күн бұрын
@@Cursed_JingliuConstantina the singer is one of Xipe emanators, which is obviously Robin lol
@arionmoschetta
@arionmoschetta 13 күн бұрын
​@@Cursed_Jingliu doesn't Fu Xuan received the GAZE of Nous, not the blessing? I think it's two different things. I don't see why she would received a blessing (a fragment) of Nous if she clearly follows The Hunt as an Xianzhou next general
@Cursed_Jingliu
@Cursed_Jingliu 13 күн бұрын
I meant Gift, not Blessing sorry lol
@Yusuf51901
@Yusuf51901 13 күн бұрын
Fu xuan ultimate Is literally the symbol of order and also Her design is very very close to a follower of the order
@ethsy77
@ethsy77 10 күн бұрын
My interpretation is that when aeons are absorbed they don't die per say but just you know become part of the greater idea. Ena isn't dead but a part of Xipe now and order exists as another aspect of harmony. They state that Sunday doesn't plan to become or resurrect an aoen but I think rather he wanted to awaken one, bring out and focus on this specific aspect thus disrupting harmony. Remember that the harmony's is still in penacony but it 's referred to as discordant. Believe what you want but this is the thought of a follower of enigmata.
@icyplayer1194
@icyplayer1194 11 күн бұрын
Being honest. I like your theories to be honest. I do follow you mainly for theories you give on HSR because the Misha plot twist was really just something I was not expecting.
@kitkuwkiblu
@kitkuwkiblu 13 күн бұрын
First of all thank you so much for uploading, I've been incredibly puzzled by some of the events and you helped clear them out! But I still seem to miss the part about "dreammaster" mr. Gopher Wood, did he just disappear? I don't fully understand the scene with "dead birds". Also the fact of the future of Sunday. His current status is serious but not fully known. It wasn't confirmed that he died. I have a feeling he would come back in a patch or two. After all out of everything on Penacony, Sunday and Robin story still feels incomplete. More over their past and future. As for my experience...the quest was absolutely amazing. The amount of detail is truly one of a kind. I'm still grieving after Gallagher and Misha, even if they were made just to fulfil a certain task(s) they still were a huge part of many charcaters lives and stories. Our friends. Seeing the past messages from Gallagher, remembering the drink mixing event or Misha in the guest book is always ripping my heart apart. The battle was truly epic, they created this big juicy moment that really didn't last 2 minutes but had a full action sequence and story. It all felt so complete yet with missing parts in a way. But in a good way.
@lambykin842
@lambykin842 13 күн бұрын
emanator of finality so true
@mohamadhafiymalek8976
@mohamadhafiymalek8976 13 күн бұрын
Speaking of sparkle, what are the box thingies that she handed out earlier in the story? Was it ever used?
@kleinsen
@kleinsen 10 күн бұрын
God i love this penacony arc so much
@ezobel
@ezobel 12 күн бұрын
best hsr channel i found
@ferret2884
@ferret2884 13 күн бұрын
I didn’t get any of this from the quest so now this makes sense now
@dplayer2693
@dplayer2693 13 күн бұрын
I'm not even gonna lie, the second acheron mentioned penacony straying from harmony I immediately thought of your video, amazing call dude Also eagerly awaiting that showdown in the trailer between firefly and acheron, (assuming that actually happens and wasn't just a trailer thing)
@ankitjadhav6775
@ankitjadhav6775 13 күн бұрын
I checked the Voicelines (leaks on X) each character have in patch 2.3 Quest , Acheron Got 0 voicelines , Same with Sunday
@dplayer2693
@dplayer2693 13 күн бұрын
@@ankitjadhav6775 that's sad. Well I'm sure it'll still be a Good patch. I'm looking forward to seeing Sunday again
@ankitjadhav6775
@ankitjadhav6775 13 күн бұрын
@@dplayer2693 He is disappeared or dead , Robin Suddenly Messages us While we try exploring the Area after the Quest .(Abt acheron ,this is just my Guess: People Must have Forgotten abt her Existence after she woke everyone Up from Dream Since She is the Emanator of Nihility the Auraless And Nothingness Aeon.)
@dplayer2693
@dplayer2693 13 күн бұрын
@@ankitjadhav6775 I know he's disappeared, she says she believes that he's alive so I'm hoping he is. I wouldn't be surprised by acheron just noping the hell out of there after completing her goal
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 13 күн бұрын
​​@@ankitjadhav6775that's unreliable. And everything happen in the music video are mostly not true
@dominickroberts4653
@dominickroberts4653 13 күн бұрын
11:56 I WOKE UP IN A NEW BUGATTI
@betatrix2545
@betatrix2545 13 күн бұрын
I wonder if we will actually be able to see the ressurection of an aeon. Id like to see tazzy or idrila
@TinkRomero
@TinkRomero 13 күн бұрын
With Penacony getting close to, well, closing up, I can’t help but wonder … where to next? Well, thanks to Ena’s Dream giving everybody what they want, we were told “where to next” when we were determining the next destination in the Astral Express. Himeko wanted to go to Lushaka, the homeworld of Mikhail. Welt wanted to go to “Agate World” Melustatin, the site of a Stellaron Event, as well as the world where Beauty ascended. Black Swan wanted to go to the “Glass Belt” Patrevia, where the Lord Ravager Zephyro turned an asteroid belt into glass. And finally, Pom-Pom tells us about the Distress Signals coming from Edo Star, a planet currently fighting off the Anti-Matter Legion, with the apparent assistance of the IPC, causing the Distress Signal to be … less Distressing. No matter what you choose, Dan Heng and March choose Edo Star, while Himeko and Welt always support your decision. Considering this is Ena’s Dream, Himeko and Welt’s decision might be your wishes overcoming them. This leaves the clear possibility that Edo Star is our next destination! Plus, there are 3 other variables that supports this as well! 1.) the IPC are involved, and we’ve recently learned that Boothill is interested in learning more about Oswaldo Schneider, an IPC board member, as well as an Emanator of Preservation! Sounds like someone whose strong enough to fight off the Legions advances. So him being at the Edo Star is very plausible, this is why Boothill was on the Express, he wanted to come along, perhaps with knowledge that we’d somehow run into Oswaldo? 2.) We’ve heard of Edo Star from the assignments we send our Characters off to do, in it, we are introduced to a Galaxy Ranger, Loretta. With us meeting a Galaxy Ranger, why not continue the trend? 3.) Factions of Destruction, The Hunt, and Preservation, and who knows what other possible faction Edo Star possesses, indicates conflict to fight against, lore to discover, and a story to Trailblaze. Lushaka, Melustatin and Patrevia all have their own lore, no doubt about that, but there doesn’t seem to be much story to go over, their stories have already been documented as History, with Melustatin having severe potential for Aeon lore, it will very likely appear in the Simulated Universe. Same goes for Patrevia, being affected by an Emanator of Destruction, and Lushaka being a planet that the Astral Express once traveled to. (While Akivili still lived, I think? I might be getting the timeline wrong there.) So … where to next?
@anoynemous4464
@anoynemous4464 13 күн бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but oswaldo isn't an emanator, currently confirmed the IPC has only two emanators diamond and Taravan. Oswaldo is a former nameless that's why boothill wanted to establish contact with us
@raystoner1250
@raystoner1250 13 күн бұрын
My god i am very excited about all the choices. But in the anniv livestream QnA Shaoji said we will eventually return to xianzhou alliance story (the other hexafleets most likely, besides luofu). Cant wait to meet marshal Hua o7
@TinkRomero
@TinkRomero 13 күн бұрын
@@anoynemous4464 oooooh, yeah, my bad! I remember hearing about IPC having two confirmed Emanators of Preservation, but I kinda forgot who the other one was. Well, Oswaldo being a former Nameless gives Boothill a very good reason to want to travel with the Nameless.
@TinkRomero
@TinkRomero 13 күн бұрын
@@raystoner1250 well, the next destination should mark the beginning of 3.0, so we have 2.3 until then. We need to give the writers and storytellers of Hoyoverse a lot of time before we’re anywhere near close to traveling to a whole new world. 1.0-1.6 gave us 3 whole planets alone! Who knows what 2.0-2.6(2.7?2.8?2.9?) will give us!
@rntcjaee3593
@rntcjaee3593 11 күн бұрын
i personally chose the melustatin because of The Beauty while Edo Star was quite interesting as well, I dont think the game and the devs will be returning to a planet with the same paths and aeons involved with the other earlier planets. To be more clear, I dont think the game would feature destruction (antimatter) and the hunt (loretta) in the game since its been already featured on hss and xianzhou if you look at the planet lineup, they all got diff aeons and paths to feature, hss got destruction and somewhat erudtion, belobog got preservation, xianzhou with hunt and abundance, and penacony being of course harmony and unexpectedly order. So it would be really nice to have the next planet focus on another path/aeon, especially if its one that is not part of the playable cast. On the following choices tho, my picks in order were 1.) Melustatin 2.) Mourning Actor planet 3.) Edo star (its space japan, of course id still wanna have it somewhat) 4.) Glass Belt 5.) Lushaka (it didnt really strike me as much since no aeons are involved and it being mikhails homeplace didnt really hook me that much) my opinions tho, sorry for the yap, the brainrot with this new lore was just too cool
@adityawidarma3803
@adityawidarma3803 13 күн бұрын
like the Sparkle's Big Button Gift she distributes
@awesome7006
@awesome7006 4 күн бұрын
I am so excited to see how powerful an emanator of equilibrium is. I presume this being would be able to manipulate molecules and chemistry in order to achieve chemical equilibrium.
@Ephrin
@Ephrin 4 күн бұрын
This whole entire quest reminded me so much of Persona 5 Royal's final palace/ideological battle. Loved it.
@amielmarlcanete1356
@amielmarlcanete1356 12 күн бұрын
When aventurine's story last update in the last scene Jade say "Its time to harvest dreams" Its possible they are gonna do something similar to sumeru's story u know what i mean if u play genshin, where they started to harvest the dreams of people and forgetting what happened yesterday similar to time travel
@Zelphyn
@Zelphyn 11 күн бұрын
IPC is going to turn Penacony's dreamscapes into reality. 😂
@Idknlandwh123
@Idknlandwh123 5 күн бұрын
🔥 joke
@Maremaredaze
@Maremaredaze 6 күн бұрын
Did anyone else feel like the old man on the chair sleeping in front of the moon was a Bloodborne reference (again)? Also the fact that we continue his legacy
@chema4150
@chema4150 13 күн бұрын
I thought of your video when it was confirmed sunday follows Order
@MrZombiepvz
@MrZombiepvz 12 күн бұрын
That was the best quest ever. All these plot twists and references... And I started liking Robin after that. How can we not after hearing her three songs and doing her quest ? (why am I listening to her songs in a loop for hours)
@RealKuro
@RealKuro 8 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Sparkles Buttons will come up again in future patches.
@SigmaLance3375
@SigmaLance3375 10 күн бұрын
As I was experiencingthis in the game, I kept thinking about how you called it.
@Sundaylover_.
@Sundaylover_. 10 күн бұрын
Sunday... they can never make me hate you🙁
@WaifuRecaps
@WaifuRecaps 13 күн бұрын
Monday: Sunday Tuesday: Sunday Wednesday: Sunday Thursday: Sunday Friday: Sunday Saturday: Sunday Sunday: Sunday: Sunday: Sunday: Sunday: Sunday: Sunday
@Idknlandwh123
@Idknlandwh123 5 күн бұрын
moonday
@mostafaelnaggar4235
@mostafaelnaggar4235 9 күн бұрын
I know im late but i would love if you made a video about the "everything was a dream part" because im still trying to figure it out From my understanding we experinced the story twice (kinda) first time was after the warp jump (no acheron cutscene and never met misha in reception) and we played through the exact same story all the way up until dominicus Once sunday transformed into dominicus we then instantly entered a dream NOT AFTER THE FIRST PHASE (kinda confirmed since that boss had half of the real boss's hp) In the dream of dominicus we entered Ena's dream. In Ena's dream we experienced the entire story (starting from the acheron cutscene at the warp jump) then we went to the reception where we met misha and everything happened as we know until we woke up from Ena's dream due to black swans help The things that make me think this is correct is that blackswan gave us an empty lightcone after the sam fight but it somehow recorded when we met misha which was much before that. Another thing that makes me feel this might be correct is that if meeting misha was in reality then realising that wouldnt have woken us up from the dream. I have a bit more details to add but i would like to get your opinion on this and i would be happy to show you all the other reasons i have but im still not 100% sure of the details.
@JMCxNeo1225214
@JMCxNeo1225214 8 күн бұрын
I was starting to get suspicious about everything being a dream the moment that I saw and spoke to the origami bird in the hotel lobby in "reality." Misha was just the icing on the cake once we learned what he was.
@jmklf
@jmklf 13 күн бұрын
I wonder if we'll get any information about the annihilation gang in Penacony since we're already fast approaching to our next planet after 2.3. I hope we get to at lease meet them if we find Sundays whereabouts or maybe they'll be set up as the next villain in a future planet...
@Ardioz_
@Ardioz_ 13 күн бұрын
I started playing yesterday I might wait a bit before watching this lol
@bumblebees4242
@bumblebees4242 13 күн бұрын
I definitely would, the story is really good. The way the game tells the story is a little bit eh in some parts but I still say it's very worth it!
@Hree
@Hree 11 күн бұрын
Are these just lore videos of thr current patch or ar there predictions/leaks into these videos? I'm avoiding spoilers from UNRELEASED content as much as possible...
@pandaescarlate7268
@pandaescarlate7268 13 күн бұрын
Dammit i can't believe i saw the leaks and didn't read that that was Sunday i would have probably figured out too... But at least i got surprised. Unlike the firefly reveal
@rajsubhod
@rajsubhod 10 күн бұрын
I know there's still a bit of the story left but with all said and done may I ask what exactly happened with the annihilation gang like are they really gone without making a single appearance and what in the end happened to gropher wood 😢
@Ocean_bIvd
@Ocean_bIvd 11 күн бұрын
this does really make me wonder, could the creation of the trailblazer out of stelaron, which is related to the path of destruction, which was the original path of the trailblazer, part of elios script, be part of some grand plan to "revive" or bring back the aeon of the trailblaze? Kafka stated that Nous registestered Akivili as having an accident while Himeko refered to the aeon as deceased, probably knowing something, she was the one who found the train after all, it is also refered to Akivili as a THEY/THEM while other aeons have genders, could this imply the aeon to exist as more than a person, but a group or an iniciative, this makes me wonder about the whole "nameless" thing, which also brings Pom pom into question, when did it appear, why does everybody act like it was there already, and to finish it all, how is it that all the nameless are indivuduals of great mystery (himeko reincarnated, Welt carrier of Divine key, Dh being lizard, March being totally unknow, and the trailblazer being a walking bxmb, it really brings the question if all of them are key components to achieve something greater, awaken someone, all being already fortold, scripted or lived backwards...
@gustavju4686
@gustavju4686 13 күн бұрын
The Order Versus Harmony gave me Law vs Grace vibes spoken of in the Bible.
@nullvoid1x
@nullvoid1x 7 күн бұрын
What tipped me off was the origami bird in the false end
@nerdyadventurer9738
@nerdyadventurer9738 12 күн бұрын
Hi man! What a cool thoughts You had there! Although I do disagree (or rather rise a question) about Sparkle. You said that Masked Fools don't really intervene with main plot but we actually have one proof that denies it! And guess who, it our main man Sampo Koski~ We were meant to believe he did nothing, and is just a stupid clown, yet he was the one that bring Astral Express to underground and steers the whole story! Without him, we wouldn't even met Natasha! Not in this manner anyway. I think the same is happening with Sparkle. She tries to give to impression of a "red herring", but always stays close and watch carefully giving little sassy tips. Everything about her is suspicious just like with Sampo. Her powers, her appearances, gameplay(that is on path of HARMONY!) or even ideals, all seems to conflict with each other. Could Mask Fools really be in contact with Elio? Why else would they be so informed? Sparkle ALWAYS is one step before others, I refuse to believe she is not significant in one way or another :P Still! It would be cool to see Your thoughts on the matter~ Cheers!
@ridhwaanahmed3560
@ridhwaanahmed3560 11 күн бұрын
Do we have any ideas on what was that gift that sparkle handed over to all the people in penacony before the festival?
@rcurugan
@rcurugan 11 күн бұрын
Could we get some deep dive or summary of the side stories from penacony?
@Chuuya68
@Chuuya68 11 күн бұрын
Up
@theforgottenkirby1614
@theforgottenkirby1614 12 күн бұрын
Bro, when I finished the first boss against Sunday, and then realized it was all a dream, I was so done…
@netherfire50
@netherfire50 5 күн бұрын
Heres one thing that im confused about. Enas dream seems to be in a loop and thats why we get the acheron scene at the start of 2.0. And repeated again once 2.2 ended. So what broke the loop? Once we "beat" sunday firefly and acheron seem to be gone totally so is it one of them? How exactly did we lose in the first place? Idk if some of this will be 2.3 things but its something im confused about. Theres also sparkles buttons but it would be funny if they subverted chekovs gun with them. Thats definitely a sparkle thing to do lol.
@reece5634
@reece5634 12 күн бұрын
I knew Misha was a vv important character so when I got him to E6, not willingly, I built him (some what usable) just in time to when his true nature was revealed.
@volir8sh38
@volir8sh38 2 күн бұрын
Did the quest, and just when I thought that I finally have an idea about the story and where we are, I got lost and no longer understand the story
@laijaiswal4164
@laijaiswal4164 12 күн бұрын
Did anyone notice during the end credits we get the real name and the characters which they are playing we even get to know the real name of acheron but we see ?? as March 7 That was sus
@stereotomono803
@stereotomono803 12 күн бұрын
Yeah because we including March herself literally don't know what her lif was before being trapped in ice
@aza5455
@aza5455 12 күн бұрын
Because we dont know what her real name is
@wererat42
@wererat42 11 күн бұрын
One loose thread that has been bothering me since finishing 2.2 is the buttons Sparkle was handing out. I hope there is some payoff to that and it wasn’t a red herring (which might still be in character for Masked Fools?)
@hoshistrider5076
@hoshistrider5076 9 күн бұрын
My thoughts about Misha being the true Legacy was spot on. It just made sense based on the way he was designed and his involvement in the story. I also knew something was wrong when I "defeated" Sunday, the way it played out was just too good to be true.
@hadeesumbra9435
@hadeesumbra9435 11 күн бұрын
Sparkle thinking she was going to blow everything up and getting immediately trolled by being inside dream is very Aha coded tbh lol
@ladymaria5921
@ladymaria5921 13 күн бұрын
Can you explain Elio's script about Firefly-SAM's death? Elio says she will die 3 times in penacony, first was memory zone meme, second one was probably when we lost the fight against sunday and everyone in penacony succumbed to Ena's dream, but what about 3rd one?
@user-bb7fi7nh1d
@user-bb7fi7nh1d 13 күн бұрын
Fyrefly said third death was optional if she fail script she died real
@LulzSec011
@LulzSec011 13 күн бұрын
2.3 hmm
@vultureonacid1482
@vultureonacid1482 13 күн бұрын
@@user-bb7fi7nh1d I interpreted as that she COULD die for real at no. 3, but will still have a third "death" of some sort. Maybe with Black Swan around it could be a more tarot card version of Death.
@aceleen_is_my_name_is_acel4995
@aceleen_is_my_name_is_acel4995 13 күн бұрын
@@user-bb7fi7nh1d no, she entered dreamscape in a different way (guess like TB used dreampool),and the only exit she have is death.
@sarag1716
@sarag1716 12 күн бұрын
There's still some unanswered questions I'm confused about personally... What about the button explosives Sparkle was handing out? What was that for? There wasn't even an explosion. Does everyone sfill have them? What happened to Sunday and Robin in the end? Are we truly out of the dream if we still got the joke credits at the end? Some questions which I think will be answered in the next patch are about Boothill and Firefly, such as Firefly's 3rd death and what Boothill has against the IPC. But the answer to Sparkle's intent and buttons or how the hell Tiernan lived to be in that planet if he died on Penacony and etc I don't think will be tackled which is confusing. I really loved Penacony I just think it had pacing issues. There was too much story with too many characters to be told in 3 parts. Similar to Genshin's Inazuma issue. I think this planet needed at least 6 to be properly tackled.
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 Күн бұрын
You can still follow a path if the AEON itself has vanished, or been absorbed, or gone to sleep. They just say an AEON is dead as a shorthand. But Aeons never really die they just go into torpor if they are weakened.
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