The New Headbolt Lane Station Is Now Open!

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Geoff Marshall

Geoff Marshall

9 ай бұрын

The newest railway station in Britain opened on the 5th October 2023, at Headbolt Lane on Merseyside. This is where Northern services, and Merseyrail services now meet ... and the Merseyrail section is all done by battery powered trains!
David's Book is here : www.amazon.co.uk/Britains-Lea...
More here : www.merseytravel.gov.uk/train...
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@geofftech2
@geofftech2 9 ай бұрын
Found a 2015 Office of Rail and Road document which explains why Third Rail electrification will never be used to expand the network: orr.gov.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/17621/dc-electrification-policy-statement.pdf
@ianhenderson4560
@ianhenderson4560 9 ай бұрын
Contrary to popular belief, it isn't an outright ban on new 3rd rail, but must have very good justification and consideration of alternatives to show that 3rd rail is in effect the only viable option and that the risk is managed to be "as low as reasonably practicable".
@nigelkthomas9501
@nigelkthomas9501 8 ай бұрын
Headbolt Lane is only a matter of a few hundred yards from Kirkby. It’s like they’re looking for any excuse not to extend the third rail. Cost is only part of a bigger picture. Chester and Ellesmere Port were electrified in 1994 so it can easily be done.
@ianhenderson4560
@ianhenderson4560 8 ай бұрын
@nigelkthomas9501 On the flip side short distance = ideal for batteries, now that battery rolling stock is (in effect) mature technology. Technically feasible, and eliminates the risk of additional third rail. So why not?
@nigelkthomas9501
@nigelkthomas9501 8 ай бұрын
@@ianhenderson4560 Yeah, there is that way of looking at it.
@Class802isGoated
@Class802isGoated 8 ай бұрын
I’m shocked to see this
@gigteevee6118
@gigteevee6118 9 ай бұрын
Seeing you with David was like you meeting a previous Doctor Who, all the stations regenerated!
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 8 ай бұрын
omg literally
@brian9731
@brian9731 9 ай бұрын
What an unassuming chap David was. A gentleman and a gentle man.
@paulknight5018
@paulknight5018 9 ай бұрын
Must have watched too many Geoff videos knew he'd come out of the other toilet.... David is a treasure, Geoff you need to set up a full interview and compare notes...
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 9 ай бұрын
Ha ha! Well predicted! When I saw the two doors side by side, I couldn’t resist …
@neville132bbk
@neville132bbk 9 ай бұрын
It's not a toilet,,,,, it's actually ( looks around secretively..) a railway Tardis.
@MrAuriga67
@MrAuriga67 9 ай бұрын
The black panel Geoff, will prevent drivers of trains being blinded by another unit arriving with headlights on. There is a simular arrangement at Ormskirk.
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 9 ай бұрын
OK, thanks! was there a similar thing before at Kirkby though? there was the bridge, but i don't recall a panel ...
@johnplampin7274
@johnplampin7274 9 ай бұрын
But it seems to be bigger than necessary.
@MrAuriga67
@MrAuriga67 9 ай бұрын
@@geofftech2 yes as well. You will also note, the station has been built, so it can be easily converted for thru running, if Merseyrail ever run to Wigan Wallgate.
@SteveOldham
@SteveOldham 9 ай бұрын
The panel jumped out at me when I visited on Saturday too. I assumed it was added security after the incident at Kirkby a while back...
@bus3s
@bus3s 9 ай бұрын
through running was for skelmersdale@@MrAuriga67
@nickbartlett5928
@nickbartlett5928 8 ай бұрын
Re stations with 'Road' in the name. When I was Chief Clerk in the Information Production Unit, Southampton in 1995, I suggested changing the name of Lyndhurst Road to Ashurst (New Forest). The village of Lyndhurst is the 'Capital' of the New Forest and approximately 2½ miles from the station. There is an infrequent bus service. We used to get tourists in the Summer getting off at the station, then trying to work out where the village was! I then had the job to change all the Solari flap indicators and recorded announcements at stations. I now have the old NSE Lyndhurst Road running in board on my garage wall.
@hunkhk
@hunkhk 8 ай бұрын
You need to have a longer interview with David what an ace bloke would love to hear more about his experiences over the years and his thoughts on the modern state of BR
@PrograError
@PrograError 8 ай бұрын
well... he did experience the latter year of the steam age, didn't he? (IIRC the steam age in UK runs up to the early 90s)
@davidcook8065
@davidcook8065 9 ай бұрын
David Brewer is worthy of a whole video
@abigailbarfoot3846
@abigailbarfoot3846 9 ай бұрын
This is exactly why we cant lose ticket offices as the ticket machines are either out of order or are in accessable for most poeople but especially blind and partially sighted people
@markstramtrainbuscapades1729
@markstramtrainbuscapades1729 9 ай бұрын
Chester Road has to be the most vaguely named "road" station, as the A452 it's named after is around 100 miles long!
@roboftherock
@roboftherock 9 ай бұрын
However, when the railway was built, there was little in the way of houses there, so it made sense to name it after the most prominent feature of the area - Old Chester Road.
@richardarmstrong6513
@richardarmstrong6513 9 ай бұрын
What a wonderful man David is. Cracking chat with him
@harrygardner1525
@harrygardner1525 9 ай бұрын
The black panel is there as a kind of anti dazzle/light baffle screen/sighting screen that's been placed there between the two buffer stop/stop blocks to block out any lights beyond the stop blocks that may dazzle & distract drivers as they enter the station. They are basically there to assist drivers & traincrews with sighting purely the buffer stops & end of the line as they enter the station at Headbolt Lane, there is a similar (but smaller one) in use at Ormskirk also placed between the buffer stops there. In 1988 when the new signalling & signal box at Rufford was brought into use it was quickly noticed as part of a signal sighting committee that trains when entering the up platform were likely to be dazzled by the new station lighting & that might cause sighting problems with the new colour light signal that protected the level crossing & entry onto the single line to Midge Hall. So the station lamps on the up side at Rufford were fitted with dark screens on one side (facing Ormskirk) so that they didn't affect the sighting of the signal anymore on the approach to Rufford station.
@peter_smyth
@peter_smyth 9 ай бұрын
In some situations, having two tracks that terminate facing each other may look like one continuous track if the buffer stops are obscured. An opaque fence may help avoid that, stopping drivers from hitting the end at speed.
@fToo
@fToo 9 ай бұрын
does it really need to be that big for driver protection purpose? it feels a bit like on the tube / purple line, where TfL remove the next train from the display boards at the station entrance a few minutes before it arrives - presumably to stop the public running to catch a tube/train!
@ffibnogab7644
@ffibnogab7644 8 ай бұрын
Let's not forget that Northern and Merseyrail don't like each other - for example, the Northern arrival at Hunt's Cross is the cue for the immediate departure of the Merseyrail service. Between the two platforms is a bridge - how long would it take for passengers to cross between and make a proper connection ? Nah, no holding. Whatever's going on there, the people who pay the fares are irrelevant.
@mmcfarlane001
@mmcfarlane001 8 ай бұрын
Yes; I was just thinking how this reminds me of Ormskirk station.
@elganthomas
@elganthomas 9 ай бұрын
Platform 3 at Wigan is used mainly to stable units in the day when things go wrong. It also used for early morning departures when starting from Wigan (not so much these days) and when there is engineering work south of Wigan, so services towards Southport and Headbolt can start from there.
@ianhalsall-fox
@ianhalsall-fox 9 ай бұрын
Yes, Bristol falls into the "street/road" suffix trap with Stapleton Road (Easton), Parson Street (South Bedminster) and St. Andrew's Road (Severnside)
@lancashirewanderer
@lancashirewanderer 8 ай бұрын
David is a lovely chap. He used to work on the station at Chorley. Always went along to have a chat about his travels and where he had been 🙂
@pokemonsuper9
@pokemonsuper9 9 ай бұрын
Platform 3 in Wigan Wallgate only ever sees trains when there is no service between Wigan and Hindley, letting the Headbolt Lane trains turn there, and I've occasionally seen it used for services to Southport part-cancelled from Manchester. It used to be quite frequent to see a 769 sat in there but not so much anymore.
@tomedy_official
@tomedy_official 9 ай бұрын
Yeh a few limited Services stop on platform 3 sometimes they would stop on platform on 1
@petermichaelgreen
@petermichaelgreen 9 ай бұрын
Looking on realtimetrains, It looks like it's used serveral times a day as a place to park trains out of the way. For example a train From leeds arrives in platform 1 at 20:40 and emptys out the passengers, at 20:46 it leaves platform 1 empty coaching stock and arrives back into platform 3 at 20:55 where it sits until 21:33. Then it transfers again over to platform 2 where it arrives at 21:42 to form the 21:44 service back to leeds. There is also a train scheduled to sit in platform 3 overnight from 22:32 to 07:02. There don't seem to be any passenger arrivals or departures to/from platform 3 on a normal day though.
@MrGreatplum
@MrGreatplum 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic, Geoff. Always good to see the northern correspondent and great to see David as well. Finally a new station with a decent station building and toilets!
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 9 ай бұрын
But no buffet, no cuppa does my 'ead in.
@anthonyh3117
@anthonyh3117 9 ай бұрын
Great video! A new station AND an electric train! Not seen one of those before! Really enjoyed your meeting with David. It was like an episode of Dr Who where he meets an earlier version of himself!
@PsychicLord
@PsychicLord 9 ай бұрын
You will have to visit Southern Electrics, especially in the rush hour.... you will see more electric trains that you can even imagine.
@Stephen_Lafferty
@Stephen_Lafferty 9 ай бұрын
It's always great to see Karl in a video! I do like this station design, there is a sense of place about it that was missing from your 2022 new stations video thread!
@apuldram
@apuldram 9 ай бұрын
And Roger…
@chickenpommes19
@chickenpommes19 8 ай бұрын
Love seeing new stations with actual station buildings. Wonderful.
@gh1851
@gh1851 9 ай бұрын
Nice to see Karl on your videos again, Geoff. He appears almost anywhere, not just in the north! Thank you for the other night by the way Geoff. What a show 👍
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 8 ай бұрын
Such an excellent video, and well deserved of it being #17 on trending (if that even means anything anymore?!!) Absolutely love seeing Carl and Roger, both my favourite regulars on the channel. The new station looks absolutely brilliant and the unexpected chat with David (who I vaguely remember you mentioning all the way back in 2017) really made this video a special one. And the funny bits too. legend
@Keithbarber
@Keithbarber 9 ай бұрын
Good to see more passengers being attracted back to the railways
@jeffrotino5895
@jeffrotino5895 9 ай бұрын
Rare thing these days sadly
@Nooticus
@Nooticus 8 ай бұрын
@@jeffrotino5895 what?
@FarmYardGaming
@FarmYardGaming 8 ай бұрын
@@jeffrotino5895 The Jubilee disagrees during peak times
@jeffrotino5895
@jeffrotino5895 8 ай бұрын
@@Nooticus with all the anti rail policies being pushed by this government to push passengers away, it’s rare to see initiatives being done to attract more passengers to rail.
@FouiAnimations
@FouiAnimations 9 ай бұрын
That's so exciting to see that Britain is currently opening a lot of new stations ! ❤
@Alfie__2003
@Alfie__2003 9 ай бұрын
After cancelling our high speed line because of an incompetent hard right government.
@caramelldansen2204
@caramelldansen2204 9 ай бұрын
Not enough new stations. We need to undo Beeching immediately.
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict 9 ай бұрын
@@Alfie__2003stop electing right wing politicians
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 9 ай бұрын
@@caramelldansen2204 That would involve hundreds maybe thousands of miles of new track bed as what's not a heritage line has houses and roads built over it, if not a footpath/bridleway. The Bluebell Railway had to build a new track bed for its extension into East Grinstead Station as the old route is now a main road and a housing estate.
@Dave.Thatcher1
@Dave.Thatcher1 8 ай бұрын
@@Alfie__2003.......LOL, this Tory Government is more Socialist than Labour could ever aspire to be!
@LUtrainwizard
@LUtrainwizard 9 ай бұрын
8:57 How considerate of Merseyside to put a sign up helping Geoff with pronunciation. Truly amazing accessible station signage. Perhaps they should install a certain round pink Nintendo character at Kirkby to remind visitors not to pronounce the second 'k'. And I think I speak for everyone when I say we would absolutely love a Choo Choo Chat with David!
@actuallyneon
@actuallyneon 9 ай бұрын
Local here, I call it Kirkby half the time for fun. 😂 also Kirkby just sounds more formal and nicer than Kir'by
@chriskrebill1842
@chriskrebill1842 9 ай бұрын
OMG! You guys are such goofs! What a hoot! Love it and thank you for sharing!
@Charstring
@Charstring 9 ай бұрын
Top quality cameo appearances in this video! Also Geoff doing god's work curbing misuse of the word "font".
@trainclips2207
@trainclips2207 9 ай бұрын
Platform 3 is used on the rare occasion an ex-southport service terminates there and is due to go into Wallgate Sidings. Rarely used these days
@bartoni79
@bartoni79 9 ай бұрын
This guy should have his own show. He’s very likeable and good at presenting
@AdamLindsayFootMusic
@AdamLindsayFootMusic 9 ай бұрын
It was great seeing u on my train my friend! Thank youu
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios 9 ай бұрын
The new station building at 'Eadbolt Lane is handsome and practical. One can well imagine waiting there on a cold wintry day.
@malcolmpym507
@malcolmpym507 9 ай бұрын
The black panel I think is for sighting buffer stops and to stop drivers being distracted
@pcsimking
@pcsimking 8 ай бұрын
plattform 3 is used as a terminus for the kirkby to wigan train, usually the last train of the day stops there overnight :)
@danielo9703
@danielo9703 9 ай бұрын
Caught myself in your video their Geoff, wasn’t expecting to see you, was a surprise. Had to get on that northern train so couldn’t speak and didn’t want to disturb your filming, also at 6:25 was near David the train into head bolt lane, if only I would of known such an interesting man
@MattL3457
@MattL3457 9 ай бұрын
Seemingly the double track is for expansion into Wigan in the future and hence they have futureproofed the station. Fair play to Merseyrail
@spiritofcantaolisboa-p8871
@spiritofcantaolisboa-p8871 8 ай бұрын
The noisy bit of the class 777s is when sat above the leading bogies. Quite rumble noise. Apart from that and constant breakdowns every time i am travelling on purpose from Manchester to travel on them, all sounds good. Thank you for sharing another interesting video.
@harrygardner1525
@harrygardner1525 9 ай бұрын
0:12 Platform 3 (the bay platform) isn't really used for any timetabled services as such, but it does see occasional use as it is sometimes used for the ad hoc stabling of stock etc. The bay platform at Wallgate used to be much longer, before being filled in & shortened in the late 1970s, with the shortened bit being subsequently filled in & turned into the garden seen here. There was talk back in the 1970s of the Merseyrail network being extended all the way to Wigan Wallgate, with it being electrified with third rail all the way from Walton Junction to Wigan Wallgate right into the bay (platform 3) where the Merseyrail service would terminate & turnback, but it all came to nought, with the electrification only being extended as far as Kirkby in 1977.
@michaelhall6178
@michaelhall6178 9 ай бұрын
8:31 Now we can follow in the footsteps of Londonbeat - "commuting on a double-A" 🙂
@TheWkc19
@TheWkc19 9 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention Geoff that there is a proposal in the future to extend Merseyrail beyond Headbolt Lane to Skelmersdale. All they would need to do is build an overbridge, lift the block separating the 2 tracks and getting rid of the northern platform.
@sIightIybored
@sIightIybored 9 ай бұрын
That would need a little more than that wouldn't it? Skelmersdale doesn't appear to even have a station? Or if it's one of the Northern stations further up the line that you mean, why would there need to be a bridge added if the Northern trains already reach?
@mattevans4377
@mattevans4377 9 ай бұрын
Because that proposal has been denied by the DFT.
@neilcrawford8303
@neilcrawford8303 9 ай бұрын
As Matt Evans has said, it's been dropped by the DfT. In July 2022 the DfT rejected the strategic outline business case for Skelmersdale Station.
@Blubatt
@Blubatt 9 ай бұрын
It'd be nice, but Skelmersdale has a Buslink service now, that takes you to Kirkby (Old Kirkby) from the Skelmersdale Concourse. I think really, what would be better for West Lancs is the reinstatement of the Burscough Curves
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 9 ай бұрын
The next Merseyrail Battery section extension will be from Ellesmere Port to Helsby on the Wirral Line. The next Mains Power intermediate station will be 'Baltic' between Brunswick and Central, Northern Line.
@robertpower8828
@robertpower8828 9 ай бұрын
Great video as always (and shout out especially to the swish toilet transition 😂). Definitely looks like it has more too it than some of the other new stations this year.
@harviemilligan1887
@harviemilligan1887 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me of when the Glasgow North Electric line was extended by a mile from Airdrie station to the eastern side of Airdrie which they called Drumgelloch (fair enough, that's the part of town it was in) rather than "Airdrie East". The result being that as only two of the four trains an hour to Airdrie were extended to the new terminus, people for intermediate stations who always caught the Airdrie train didn't board those going to Drumgelloch. The solution? Leave the automated announcements as "The next train is for Airdrie" and have a manual announcement reminding passengers "this train also calls at Drumgelloch".
@Thornaby37
@Thornaby37 9 ай бұрын
The bay platform at Wigan Wallgate would be ideal for terminating Merseyrail 777s in the future if they extend the service I believe the section separating Merseyrail and Northern at Headbolt Lane is designed specifically so it can be easily removed
@JP_TaVeryMuch
@JP_TaVeryMuch 9 ай бұрын
0:14 Why yes. Platform three is used for the very occasional train that goes on The line to Wigan Pier.
@Benji_transport_vids
@Benji_transport_vids 9 ай бұрын
I guess that would've been possible at some point by going via the Winstanley colliery railway XD
@Mergatroid
@Mergatroid 9 ай бұрын
Given the short distance it seems weird that they didn't just third rail it the rest of the way, instead having to spend the money to buy and maintain trains with big, heavy batteries that will degrade far faster than a third rail would.
@timw.8452
@timw.8452 9 ай бұрын
Completely agree with you, but I believe that extending the third rail network any further isn't allowed any more on H&S grounds. Maybe someone with more precise knowledge could comment further.
@Mergatroid
@Mergatroid 9 ай бұрын
@@timw.8452 Yeah, I have to assume they couldn't do it because of weird ownership or other rules or regulations. I doubt they'd *choose* to operate it like this.
@HuggyBob62
@HuggyBob62 9 ай бұрын
There was a similar problem trying to in-fill third rail between Reading -Guildford-Redhill. GWR were going to use trimode trains but I don't think they will now.
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 9 ай бұрын
@@timw.8452 You are correct, nor will the DfT allow Overhead power either on cost grounds.
@nathanw9770
@nathanw9770 9 ай бұрын
Perhaps it's so they don't need to modify the Northern rail section in case Merseyrail wants to extend services to Wigan or somewhere else along the line.
@rayanthony5029
@rayanthony5029 8 ай бұрын
Thanks
@callumprice8414
@callumprice8414 8 ай бұрын
Tower Hill is the name of the estate in Kirkby - the same as Northwood Everything in Headbolt station is yellow because MerseyTravel own the station and yellow is their brand colour👍
@arjunaravind1351
@arjunaravind1351 8 ай бұрын
It's ridiculous how much happiness I get from seeing Geoff 'christen' a bin
@Tyler.T214
@Tyler.T214 9 ай бұрын
Hello, Just Wanted To Say Loving Your Videos, Keep Up The Great Work
@AaronD_
@AaronD_ 9 ай бұрын
Hi Geoff, I live super close by to Headbolt, but sadly Im closer to Kirkby, but I love this station, im gutted I missed out on seeing you as I was around the area on that day!
@guillaumemaurice3503
@guillaumemaurice3503 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video Geoff, that was very interesting.
@Eddyspeeder
@Eddyspeeder 9 ай бұрын
Why is this video not called “Geoff Marshall meets the original Geoff Marshall”? I’d love this encounter with David to evolve into a Choo Choo Chat some time!
@rynabuns
@rynabuns 8 ай бұрын
Always love new stations, but it should really go to Skelmersdale. As part of levelling up the plans were rejected! Well done DfT.
@RAILEXCELLENCE2011
@RAILEXCELLENCE2011 9 ай бұрын
Hi Geoff Marshall, You should add another station to your least used stations playlist . Hourpes is the least used station in Belgium. Only 7 people use it in a year. In Belgium they speak French,German and Dutch.
@sparbundet4318
@sparbundet4318 9 ай бұрын
It’s so nice with a new station that isn’t connected to a car park or is located in the middle of a field
@markusstudeli2997
@markusstudeli2997 9 ай бұрын
There's still a giant car park next to it. Seriously, it's terrible to have these large parking lots right next to a station, as it makes them less attractive to reach on foot or by bike. People on foot or on bikes should be given priority, which in return will make the station location more attractive for small shops and cafés.
@Mitch-Hendren
@Mitch-Hendren 9 ай бұрын
Its right next to one of the main roads out of the town. Has dedicated cycleway/storage.also has a bus terminus at the entrance and 5 minutes walk from major residential areas with more planned
@caramelldansen2204
@caramelldansen2204 9 ай бұрын
@@markusstudeli2997 It really shows the priorities of the ruling class not just in Britain, but globally. They don't want us out of cars, or the automotive and fossil fuel industries will get angry, and they make more money than most companies. Typical capitalist "democracy".
@oliverghunter
@oliverghunter 9 ай бұрын
Boom, I got the first like!! 😀Wait 13 mins..... OK, great episode, I can't believe you met David Brewer - awesome! I don't recall ever having been on Northern Rail but I wouldn't mind a go on the new battery trains! 🙂
@fellbridgegang6854
@fellbridgegang6854 7 ай бұрын
Hi Geoff, platform 3 at Wigan can be used to store unities however its primary function is to hold Sunday services from Wigan to headbolt lane
@almyle503
@almyle503 9 ай бұрын
A long time ago, a village in Cheshire called Willaston had a train station called Hadlow Road. It was the only station to serve Willaston so lord knows why it wasn’t just called Willaston. The station is actually still there…unlike the rest of the railway.
@pauldenner1781
@pauldenner1781 9 ай бұрын
Platform 3 used to be for shuttle trains between Kirkby and Wallgate but was a very long time since that was common on the timetable
@michaelodonoghue7464
@michaelodonoghue7464 9 ай бұрын
I think it’s time to experience all your stations once again, but this time in a Wheelchair (Electric possibly).
@ichbinjon
@ichbinjon 8 ай бұрын
Haven't been to Wigan in ages (from Kirkby) but the last few times I did, Platform 3 was the Kirkby line which they used a pacer train for, which terminated at Wallgate using Plat 3. When I travelled to Wigan Wallgate on that line a while later, the route no longer terminated at Wallgate and went on to Blackburn (I think), so Platform 3 wasn't used. They could still use it for services between Headbolt and Wallgate sometimes, I suppose, but I doubt they do.
@MaidaValeTom
@MaidaValeTom 9 ай бұрын
I’m not from the area nor have I lived anywhere near it, so correct me if I’m wrong I’m completely baffled as to why the hell they’ve called it simply ‘Headbolt Lane’ if the area around it is well recognised as Tower Hill, especially as this is a brand new station and doesn’t have to conform to what it was named decades ago (such as the aforementioned Mauldeth Road), especially considering Headbolt Lane itself doesn’t appear to be that major of a road. Surely ‘Kirby Tower Hill’ or at least ‘Kirby Headbolt Lane’ would work perfectly, and if the reasoning against a more descriptive name was that it’d be too much of a mouthful, Then someone needs to take a look at the two Bootle stations down the road
@actuallyneon
@actuallyneon 9 ай бұрын
HBL is well known by locals. It's right near Mill Dam Park, which is one of the only parks in the region. Kirkby H'bolt.. is a placeholder name just to get people used to Headbolt Lane being the terminus, not Kirkby.
@davidemmott6225
@davidemmott6225 9 ай бұрын
I lived in Kirkby for a number of years (probably about 5 minutes walk from the new station actually) and couldn't have told you where Headbolt Lane was.
@rogga3336
@rogga3336 8 ай бұрын
@@davidemmott6225I had to Google where the new station was going to be and I live in Northwood
@racerdeth
@racerdeth 8 ай бұрын
Textbook Lancashire accent on David - one of our few Northern accents with rhotic Rs!
@tonycook603
@tonycook603 9 ай бұрын
Good to see the Northern Correspondent back.
@MRTransportVideos
@MRTransportVideos 9 ай бұрын
I remember Mauldeth Road station well - all the hundreds of times going throught it while travelling between Gatley and Manchester Piccadilly. And I wouldn't call the Railway Typeface "good, old-fashioned".... it's the PROPER Rail typeface. The lack of sound from the 777s on Battery power is rather reminicent of the 139s (though with slightly more of an electrical whine).
@prendo147
@prendo147 9 ай бұрын
Platform 3 is rarely used, only when there's a Southport/Kirkby service starting from Wigan or vice versa. This sometimes happens when there's engineering works heading east or a train gets cancelled at Wigan.
@stevebramhill3811
@stevebramhill3811 2 ай бұрын
A brief history of the line. It used to terminate at the Liverpool end at Exchange station.This station lost all it's long distance services to Lime Street as a result of the Beeching cuts. This left 3 commuter lines. Two of them (Southport and Ormskirk) were already electrified using 3rd rail. The Merseyside authorities in creating the new Merseyrail system could easily integrate the first two lines into the new underground, but the third one this line to Kirkby/Wigan was diesel which couldn't go underground. So, they electrified it initially to Kirkby fulling intending to extend it further. It's taken around 50 years to extend by one stop! One problem was the BR singled the line from Fazakerley to Rainford as a result of a single track new bridge. Very short sighted.
@garyrigby21
@garyrigby21 6 ай бұрын
Funniest thing i saw on Merseyrail was Graffiti at Aintree Station on the Sign underneath Aintree it says Alight here for Aintree racecourse and someone had crossed out Alight and wrote "Get off" it made my day i couldn't stop giggling
@esmeephillips5888
@esmeephillips5888 9 ай бұрын
Britain's idea of integrated town planning after WW2: designate Skelmersdale as Liverpool's biggest overspill relocation, close the station just as it begins to grow (1956), wait till 40,000 people live there trainless, then spend half a century and untold millions on studies, reviews, consultations about whether it would be better to have more buses from Skem to the Kirkby railhead or rebuild THREE WHOLE MILES of track. Not electrified, of course- Energizer Bunny DMUs only. Btw, Kirkby was also an expanding exurban center whose rail service only escaped the Beeching Axe bc it was in the Labor prime minister's constituency.
@caramelldansen2204
@caramelldansen2204 8 ай бұрын
Rail in Britain is an absolute joke. The monetary power of the oil and automotive industries combined are more powerful than any country, so they get what they want, despite the fact it's literally killing us. Typical capitalist efficiency, eh? Profit over all else...
@buzzukfiftythree
@buzzukfiftythree 9 ай бұрын
Great video Geoff. It’s great to see the use of more hybrid electric/battery charged trains. I live close to the Uckfield line in East Sussex and have often wondered if an electric/battery charged hybrid EMU would have sufficient range to be used instead of the Class 170 DMUs on this route. The line is electrified as far as Hurst Green where the East Grinstead line diverges.
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict 9 ай бұрын
New lines need to be built to network rail standards.
@josephine_lou89
@josephine_lou89 9 ай бұрын
Good to meet you on Saturday afternoon! Shame we didnt make the final cut 😅 From the two locals - Tom & Jo 👍🏻
@josephine_lou89
@josephine_lou89 9 ай бұрын
@@geofftech2 not too worry! We're better suited to being behind the camera 👍🏻
@jewelsrainbow162
@jewelsrainbow162 8 ай бұрын
Hilarious! Well done, this is very informative & funny too. Appreciate the posting, thanks for this 🚉 🚄 👏🏾 👏🏼😆 xXx
@PhilReynoldsLondonGeek
@PhilReynoldsLondonGeek 8 ай бұрын
On the subject of station names, there is the ridiculous "Sandwell & Dudley" (SAD), which stands between West Bromwich and Oldbury. Named Oldbury in 1852 when it opened, it acquired the silly name in May 1984 when it was rebuilt. "Sandwell", apart from being a valley in the borough, is not really a place, and the station is not near Dudley - in fact Dudley Port station is nearer, though that is between Tipton and Great Bridge.
@Gass7
@Gass7 8 ай бұрын
the new merseyrail trains make for such a nicer ride. so smooth and quiet, and air conditioning too. with some nice little extra touches, like better luggage/bike/etc. storage - just a shame they are not rolled out on the line near me 😢
@JBMtravels
@JBMtravels 9 ай бұрын
There are three platforms, two through platforms and one bay platform for trains departing towards Southport or Kirkby. Platforms are below street level and reached via a flight of stairs from the street level concourse which contains a ticket office and a newsagent. If you are lucky you may see a train from this station via Birmingham new street to Birmingham international. I do not know how it gets there but there is no current information to be found about this service anywhere But I have seen the train at the station a few times
@clivebroadhead4381
@clivebroadhead4381 8 ай бұрын
The Class 777 has provision for a pantograph so can go beyond Headbolt using batteries or overhead line equipment.
@GoranNewsum
@GoranNewsum 9 ай бұрын
8:57 Very nice Geoff, very nice ;)
@andydredlox8686
@andydredlox8686 9 ай бұрын
As a local lad, I remember platform 3 used to be used a shuttle service on the line that you are on.... trains never used to go from Manchester to Kirkby. You used to have to change on wallgate for the "shuttle" service to Kirkby usually a pacer in its early years... worst decision ever made by local councils ( west lancs and Greater Manchester) not to allow electrification beyond Kirkby IMHO
@nigelkthomas9501
@nigelkthomas9501 9 ай бұрын
Failing to allow electrification east of Kirkby by crazy councils is off the scale stupidity! The railway should never have been severed at Kirkby all those years ago.
@actuallyneon
@actuallyneon 9 ай бұрын
I mean, it wasn't exactly the councils decision.. Kirkby was a very not cost effective station, so they ended up single tracking it, and couldn't afford to electrify it past Kirkby.
@davidemmott6225
@davidemmott6225 9 ай бұрын
@@actuallyneon cost was undoubtedly a factor, but aren't 3rd rail extensions frowned upon nowadays anyway?
@robdavies8702
@robdavies8702 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully they’ll eventually be able to run through to Wallgate P3 on battery power.
@LostsTVandRadio
@LostsTVandRadio 8 ай бұрын
A station with unconnected lines. Hmmm... That's helpful.
@VexSG
@VexSG 9 ай бұрын
Headbolt Lane is a really cool station, nice meeting you there on Saturday! 😅
@ronvalente65
@ronvalente65 8 ай бұрын
Tried the Manchester service from Athertonl station to Headbolt lane then on to Liverpool central. on the new class 777 train, both trains were ontime and we had a thouroughly enjoyable ride.
@neilgibson7449
@neilgibson7449 8 ай бұрын
We delivered the platform edges about 5 months ago to that new train station. 18 trucks delivered them .
@stevenjohnson2113
@stevenjohnson2113 8 ай бұрын
Only in Britain, could you introduce a new service where the Northern service arrives one minute before the Merseyrail service leaves and expect people to rush between.
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 8 ай бұрын
Probably a direction from DfT - to ensure least numbers of passengers to support the government mantra that "no one uses rail" so we will need to build roads.
@GreatEasternMainlineSpots
@GreatEasternMainlineSpots 9 ай бұрын
Theres a new station being built on the Great Eastern Mainline called Beaulieu Park,make sure to visit it in the future
@neilburns8869
@neilburns8869 8 ай бұрын
Headbolt Lane railway station in Merseyside is actually the closest railway station to Liverpool's (LFC) new training complex aka the AXA Training Centre in Kirby.
@andrewstandeven7428
@andrewstandeven7428 9 ай бұрын
New Lane, Bescar Lane, Hall Road - just a few for your Northern correspondent
@Karlinski73
@Karlinski73 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! Good examples! 👍
@roboftherock
@roboftherock 9 ай бұрын
Those all depend on the circumstances that applied when the line opened. It would have made sense then, and we've just gotten used to them. Why bother changing them.
@gibsonms
@gibsonms 9 ай бұрын
I was literally reading about this station an hour ago!!
@Rich_Sols
@Rich_Sols 9 ай бұрын
Ok, im confused. Why would the 2 lines terminate here? Why not just have a through line? I can undrrstand in ye olden days, with 2 competing companies not wanting to share track, but i dont understand why do it today.
@NorthernFail852
@NorthernFail852 7 ай бұрын
Am still yet to visit headbolt, I still remember having to terminate at Kirby, at least the connecting path here is a lot wider making it easier to fit through crowds
@Extreme_Rice
@Extreme_Rice 9 ай бұрын
We have the similarly named Headstone Lane station down here, but at least the area has grown around it.
@HenrysAdventures
@HenrysAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Good to see another railway station open. I can't understand why the don't connect the lines. Its almost like they're different track gauges but of course they're not. I know through services might no be happening now but if they ever wish to change in the future they will need to alter the station.
@actuallyneon
@actuallyneon 9 ай бұрын
The plan is for them to alter the station in the future. The walkway in the middle has been purpose built to be able to be removed. They can't connect them for safety reasons, for example if a 777 is coming and overshoots it's stop and hits the northern train.
@barrieshepherd7694
@barrieshepherd7694 8 ай бұрын
@@actuallyneon Effective use of AWS/TPWS should minimise the chance of that to zero, and there would have to be the coincidence of another train being there. 777s also have tripcocks to stop overrun in the other direction. As it is an overshoot will guarantee the train will hit an immovable object and be severely damaged. This seems a dystopian world where common sense has left the table to Merseytravel/TOCs/NR/DfT bickering led by Treasury with the purse strings.
@francisrogers9824
@francisrogers9824 9 ай бұрын
1. Why does the dft hate third rail expansion? It would make it easier to expand electrication (Uckfield) and wouldnt have this situation where only a few trains can serve the station) 2. Is there any possibility of reelectrifying to pantograph? I know all new 3rd rail trains are required to be panto capable. It could tie in with electrification up to Wigan. 3. Will Kirkby ever be doubled? Feeling like that pinch point could become problematic in the future with running a 15 minute service. 8tph along that one track
@geofftech2
@geofftech2 9 ай бұрын
here, there's a great document from the ORR that explains it in detail www.orr.gov.uk/media/10702
@Anonymoususer_2023
@Anonymoususer_2023 8 ай бұрын
Nice modern railway station on the outskirts of Kirkby. Merseyrail have done a great job on reopening stations and ordering the Class 777 dual voltage trains with batteries to operate on existing lines that is impossible to electrify with DC 750v 3rd Rail. Or impossible to electrify with AC 25,000 OHL.
@kevg707
@kevg707 9 ай бұрын
Look forward to ticking this off on my next visit...at last a new station that has something about it....Merseyrail for me is the best value service around
@jonnysegway7866
@jonnysegway7866 9 ай бұрын
Love the greeting 😄
@Nick-13
@Nick-13 8 ай бұрын
David was great ! Longer interview next time please !
@tomedy_official
@tomedy_official 9 ай бұрын
Platform 3 is use for limited off peak and final Service to Southport. Somtimes they would stop of platform 1 if the line is clear.
@Drdee1
@Drdee1 9 ай бұрын
6:32 This is wonderful!!!
@DonaldTrumpIsGreat
@DonaldTrumpIsGreat 9 ай бұрын
Good Video 👍
@RCassinello
@RCassinello 8 ай бұрын
I love the joke that it's spelt "Head", pronounced "Ead", but on the train the abbreviation uses only "H" - the letter that's not pronounced!
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