The Triangle Shirtwaist Fire: The Disaster that Changed the Workplace Forever

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Source/Further reading:
Triangle Fire: PBS American Experience Documentary Film
New York: A Documentary Film by Ric Burns, Episode 4
“Triangle: The Fire that Changed America” by David von Drehle

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@geographicstravel
@geographicstravel 3 жыл бұрын
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@imperiumbrasiliae
@imperiumbrasiliae 3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard about the Joelma building there is some misticism about a fire there in 1974 and that the building was built on top of a house where three were assassinated the assassin who also lived there commited suicide and a fireman got a cadaver infection
@kingdomofhope3371
@kingdomofhope3371 3 жыл бұрын
🤯🤯🤯 Wow, I thought of the Shrirtwaste factory just after I woke up for some reason. I see my sub list, and saw this post. My HAIR STOOD ON END. This happens every once and a while. I am so freaking happy, others know about this 1-911 fire attack. Mind totlally blown. Now, what to make of it? Wow...that was a sad story too.
@turdferguson9356
@turdferguson9356 3 жыл бұрын
in the early 20th century the excesses of capitalism killed 150 people due to poor working conditions... a decade later, the excesses of socialism would starve 3-5 million people living on the most fertile soil in Europe... which set of ideas would you prefer run your economy?
@archstanton6102
@archstanton6102 3 жыл бұрын
@@turdferguson9356 Are you suggesting only 150 people were ever killed by capitalism?
@turdferguson9356
@turdferguson9356 3 жыл бұрын
@@archstanton6102 I was making a comparison of lose of life events within the same time period, spurred on by opposing ideologies... if you're about to launch into some socialist apologetics, save yourself the trouble, I'm already inoculated to the mind virus that is Marxism :]
@joelaugustin6407
@joelaugustin6407 3 жыл бұрын
Every U.S. firefighter learns about this event in the first chapter of our academy books. We have a long history of only changing our ways once a multitude of people die.
@Chris.Pontius
@Chris.Pontius 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of gun-control...
@kl0wnkiller912
@kl0wnkiller912 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chris.Pontius We weren't but if we were someone should point out that "criminal control" might be a much better option but it doesn't fit the agenda.
@MatrixRefugee
@MatrixRefugee 3 жыл бұрын
Someone once said "Fire codes are written in blood". Sad but true...
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Chris.Pontius Guns have been readily accessible for over a hundred years. Guns aren't the problem.
@joelaugustin6407
@joelaugustin6407 3 жыл бұрын
@@MatrixRefugee That's a terribly accurate statement.
@raymartin3527
@raymartin3527 3 жыл бұрын
My grandmother born in 1904 worked as a sewing machine operator for years in New York, thankfully not at this establishment. Very sad story as I have a great deal of respect for those hard working women and men of the time.
@kylen7351
@kylen7351 3 жыл бұрын
Showing the new employee the supply closet in the basement. You: and this is where the rest of the workers come to cry on their breaks.
@kingjellybean9795
@kingjellybean9795 3 жыл бұрын
No... Its where they live lol
@whatbuttondoipush
@whatbuttondoipush 3 жыл бұрын
You need to move Danny out of there first.
@--enyo--
@--enyo-- 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when I worked in hospitals
@SoulDevoured
@SoulDevoured 4 ай бұрын
At Amazon it was the back isles where they put the overflow pallet boxes. At my current job as a park ranger it's nice to be able to cry in the woods.
@Inflammate
@Inflammate 3 жыл бұрын
What basement? As one bearded blazer once said:"Do not write down your crimes!"
@itarry4
@itarry4 3 жыл бұрын
Allegedly!
@nellom.8771
@nellom.8771 3 жыл бұрын
OGBB
@deemariedubois4916
@deemariedubois4916 3 жыл бұрын
@@nellom.8771 precisely.
@DerptyDerptyDUM
@DerptyDerptyDUM 3 жыл бұрын
🙈🙉🙊
@boostedxmas
@boostedxmas 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment brought me happiness 😌
@BigBrownMemes
@BigBrownMemes 3 жыл бұрын
Simon: poor work conditions would never be accepted again Apple: 拿著我的啤酒瓶子
@IAmAnEvilTaco
@IAmAnEvilTaco 3 жыл бұрын
"Here's a major disaster that happened to a business. It killed dozens! Start your own with squarespace!" That's gotta be the most awkward sponsorship ever.
@timcarder2170
@timcarder2170 3 жыл бұрын
"The kind of abuse leveled at workers of the Triangle factory, will never be tolerated in america again." *Exactly* That's why most products are now made in Asian and/or South/Central American countries. Where virtually none of the wage and safety laws exist (or even discussed). Keeping costs negligent, but profits(and prices) rising.
@mariawesley7583
@mariawesley7583 3 жыл бұрын
Naomi Klein's book "No Logo" is a real eye-opener on this subject.
@blazertundra
@blazertundra 3 жыл бұрын
Fast fashion has multiplied the problem immensely. Fashionable clothes aren't made to last and (now out of sight) voiceless young women are still paying the price.
@KingJohnMichael
@KingJohnMichael 3 жыл бұрын
I think you meant africa
@blessd24
@blessd24 3 жыл бұрын
This is why it's important to not only buy based on price. It's hard, but buying American made items is as close to you can get to making sure the items you buy.... Ethically..... Created items.
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink Жыл бұрын
@@KingJohnMichael Fast fashion (and luxury brands too, including ones that promise they were produced in Italy or the US) is overwhelmingly produced in Bangladesh. Which is in Asia.
@PandaBear62573
@PandaBear62573 3 жыл бұрын
My daughter went to school at a catholic school called Our Lady of Pompeii nearby in Greenwich Village. Many of the bodies were brought to the church in the immediate aftermath as they were recovered. My daughter attended this school during the 100th anniversary and the school was involved in ceremonies to commenorate the disaster.
@andreluislimaa
@andreluislimaa 3 жыл бұрын
FILL ME WITH FACTS, FACT BOI!!
@thnktank1
@thnktank1 3 жыл бұрын
This building is right by Washington Square park and NYU.
@SRW_
@SRW_ 3 жыл бұрын
*He-man meme*
@MomMom4Cubs
@MomMom4Cubs 3 жыл бұрын
Safety costs money. Corporations, regardless of nation of origin, can't stand to lose money. Customers are easier to replace than majority stockholders. There's 3 facts for you.
@twotugtony7221
@twotugtony7221 2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell If this is a threat or if your praising him as "fact boi"
@kylerswamp1075
@kylerswamp1075 2 жыл бұрын
Fact: your choice of words is unsettling. ;D
@SEAZNDragon
@SEAZNDragon 3 жыл бұрын
"Cue the basement jokes" Good to know you know your audience Simon
@brysonmorris622
@brysonmorris622 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not a crime if Danny never gets out
@neighborhoodcatlady6094
@neighborhoodcatlady6094 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work in a high rise in Arlington and another in Ballston, Virginia. The tallest building was only 12 stories. Floors were not crowded. Office IT work. We would have fire drills. Would take 20 minutes to get to the 8th floor so that we could begin to evacuate. Stairwells were packed. Reason I bring this up is that I think about the major metropolitan cities with taller buildings. Need more and wider stairwells.
@PandaBear62573
@PandaBear62573 3 жыл бұрын
In New York City post 9/11 all new construction is required to have wider stairwells. It's very obvious when you're in a building built post 9/11 versus pre 9/11.
@VenomStryker
@VenomStryker 2 жыл бұрын
They need a fire pole going down the center of the stairwells so people have an alternate way down. :-)
@Uruz2012
@Uruz2012 Ай бұрын
People need to be able to walk fown stairs faster too. Basic physical coordination is sadly lacking in modern humans.
@nicholaspalmer892
@nicholaspalmer892 3 жыл бұрын
America: We work with no AC Israel: We have conscription Mexico: We work in a drug war Danny and Sam: You guys have laws?
@codfan2057
@codfan2057 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Callum join them?
@nicholaspalmer892
@nicholaspalmer892 3 жыл бұрын
Your right, let's just say he's in a different basement then
@natelandherr5202
@natelandherr5202 3 жыл бұрын
Israel: We have *Apartheid
@zachaliles
@zachaliles 3 жыл бұрын
You guys have drugs?
@Ozymandias1
@Ozymandias1 3 жыл бұрын
*Simon* "Living in the modern world we tend to take a lot of things for granted. One of those is that when we go to work we do so knowing we're not being deliberately being put in an unsafe environment by our employer." *2013 Rana Plaza collapse* "Hold my non-alcoholic beer."
@mariawesley7583
@mariawesley7583 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad someone mentioned Rana Plaza. We lost over 1100 people that day, which is around 1/3 the number of people who died on 9/11, but I don't recall 1/3 the amount of outrage. People still consume fast fashion instead of thrift store finds.
@Rybread52
@Rybread52 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon employees: “Hold my pee bottle.”
@kagekun7689
@kagekun7689 3 жыл бұрын
It's a damn shame that human lives have to be sacrificed in order for laws to be made or for change to be made
@7thhokage87
@7thhokage87 3 жыл бұрын
Greed at its finest
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo 3 жыл бұрын
Not being a dick, but how would they know what laws to make or change until something bad happens? That's like saying we should have known to prevent people with box cutters from getting onto planes before 9/11. It's not a problem until it is.
@opallise
@opallise 3 жыл бұрын
@@lovelessissimo So the answer to everything is love less? Yeah, I can see how that's working for us.
@nicholaslewis8594
@nicholaslewis8594 3 жыл бұрын
No, not even remotely. You can plan ahead to prevent a disaster before it happens.
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 жыл бұрын
pfft with almost 8B of them human lives are cheap, plentiful, abundant, and disposable. Dunno why people keep talking like humans are an endangered or rare species or something when the opposite is the case and there's too many.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 3 жыл бұрын
Businessmen even to this day care very little about their workers, they just want the money fast and in great quantity, spending only the minimum required to meet health & safety regulations... :(
@hooper4581
@hooper4581 3 жыл бұрын
This is why labor unions are needed in this city (country)
@SerTasera
@SerTasera 3 жыл бұрын
I have a bachelor's in business, literally the first thing they teach us is that the company's only obligation is to increase shareholder value.
@demonprinces17
@demonprinces17 3 жыл бұрын
@@hooper4581 not much better
@warailawildrunner5300
@warailawildrunner5300 3 жыл бұрын
@@hooper4581 Not just the US either - unions are being blocked, and health and safety are being undermined the world over to compete in a global economy where some countries can take advantage of their own lax safety laws. I mean it was only a few years ago that we heard of the disasters in india in garment factories there... which have conditions similar to the triangle fire.
@ltournay
@ltournay 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose you do not actually know or ever talked to any business owner, it is very ignorant of you to think that
@shookings
@shookings 3 жыл бұрын
For those of you with "basement jokes", those are OSHA approved shackles and an OSHA approved radiator that Danny's attached to.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know the OSHA lot had any jurisdiction in the Czech Republic....... :P
@meigab
@meigab 3 жыл бұрын
@@twocvbloke Nor Argentina🤷‍♀️ Now we know better I guess
@thefourshowflip
@thefourshowflip 3 жыл бұрын
They’re not shackles...they’re employee retention devices 😉
@SRW_
@SRW_ 3 жыл бұрын
OSHA approved candles
@bamacopeland4372
@bamacopeland4372 3 жыл бұрын
The head of OSHA is ETA. So it's all good
@Berengier817
@Berengier817 3 жыл бұрын
This is discussed in business school. It's a great example of why deregulation is bad
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 3 жыл бұрын
That's a foolish blanket statement. Regulations are different, duh.
@rogerrendzak8055
@rogerrendzak8055 Жыл бұрын
@@PrezVeto Wow!! Let's take a guess. You're against nationwide regulations 'cause, you're a republican🤔!!!
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto Жыл бұрын
@@rogerrendzak8055 Can you read?
@302racing3
@302racing3 3 жыл бұрын
Could you talk about Zone Rouge in France, aka the remnants of WW1 battlefields so toxic life is virtually impossible in some sections. Sorta like the Chernobyl exclusion zone of France
@NothingOfNoteToSeeHere
@NothingOfNoteToSeeHere 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! That sounds interesting and important to know about.
@bartholen
@bartholen 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, never knew that about the former WW1 Battlefields.
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 3 жыл бұрын
Several people every year are killed by old munitions in France. Its insane how a 100 year old mustard gas shell can still kill or maime.
@a-a-ronbrowser1486
@a-a-ronbrowser1486 3 жыл бұрын
Good one
@BrandyHoelscher
@BrandyHoelscher 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. I’d watch that video.
@overwhelmingapathy721
@overwhelmingapathy721 3 жыл бұрын
Sam and Dannys chain is 2 links to short to reach the complaint box
@Replicaate
@Replicaate 3 жыл бұрын
I was in NYC a few years ago and stood outside that building for a while, reflecting. The whole block is just so...normal, just looking at the (rather beautiful)old factory building you'd never guess what happened inside it.
@linda10989
@linda10989 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the proposed memorial hadn't erected at that time?
@Replicaate
@Replicaate 3 жыл бұрын
@@linda10989 Nah this was in like...2012?
@linda10989
@linda10989 3 жыл бұрын
@@Replicaate 1911, I think?
@linda10989
@linda10989 3 жыл бұрын
@@Replicaate Oops, my bad.
@fyrequeene
@fyrequeene 3 жыл бұрын
I did the same thing in 2016, had the same impression. It was a sunny summer day, and the only indication of the horror that happened there was a memorial plaque on the side of the building (is that the memorial talked about in the video? don't know). No ghosts, no sadness, just the knowledge I got from a book that something awful occurred at that spot...
@socalgal714
@socalgal714 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. There is a huge fuel load in a garment factory. After working for one, (and marrying the maintenance guy there) I'm less concerned about the fabric than I am the floor. Those old wood floors soaked in oil from the machines is the biggest problem after safe passage to exits.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 3 жыл бұрын
Oil-soaked wood can burn a long time, but it's far less flammable than fabric dust. Fabric dust can flash-ignite, while oil-soaked wood needs to be held at ignition temperature for several minutes before it will sustain a fire.
@socalgal714
@socalgal714 3 жыл бұрын
@@deusexaethera true. The bottom line is safe egress.
@anarchyantz1564
@anarchyantz1564 3 жыл бұрын
"Working long shifts of sometimes 12 to 14 hours, rarely time to go to the bathroom. Foremen hounded the workers relentlessly, fining or firing any caught talking or making mistakes while assembling" So......Today's Amazon then? Yeah changed a lot in America hasn't it?
@Necrophite78
@Necrophite78 3 жыл бұрын
Wow when the fire escape stairs collapsed, it is evident how much neglegence there was in that entire company.
@steffipowell8950
@steffipowell8950 3 жыл бұрын
Humanity will never cease to amaze me with our complete lack of reguard for human life
@northlandgaming8460
@northlandgaming8460 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s put it this way so it amazes you less bro. Imagine you have $100,000, and you can start a company that’s 100% safe for workers but it’ll cost all $100,000 or you can skip that and it’ll probably cost $70,000 and that’s $30,000 in the pocket brother. It’s not because a lack of regard for human life, it’s because of greed. It’s fucked up but it is what it isssss
@arnouxkriel8258
@arnouxkriel8258 3 жыл бұрын
Our complete lack of the regard for any form of life
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnouxkriel8258: Cats. Cats are nice.
@northlandgaming8460
@northlandgaming8460 3 жыл бұрын
@@arnouxkriel8258 see that’s better, now we’re getting it
@SunilPatil-hb2ou
@SunilPatil-hb2ou 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to india
@shadow6743
@shadow6743 3 жыл бұрын
When I was high school history class we watched the film about this incident. I remember being really angry that some of my classmates were not taking the film seriously especially when they talked about the people that died. So, to make sure they never did it again I brought in Eyes on the Prize the Civil Rights documentary. We got to Emmett Till funeral and you could hear a pin drop since his mother decided to have a open casket. Never heard those classmates make fun of a historical event again. I just hope they learned some empathy as they got older. I just wanted them to know that these events hurt real people and could happen again if we don't take history seriously.
@xenawirtz1303
@xenawirtz1303 3 жыл бұрын
There is also a book about it called Ashes of Roses. Read in middle school
@apriladams8710
@apriladams8710 3 жыл бұрын
65 years old and I have never heard of this tragedy. This is a great episode in that such things should never be forgotten or, as in my case, never learned until now. Thank you, Mr. Whistler, for keeping the memory of those poor workers alive.
@LangleyTIPPA5
@LangleyTIPPA5 3 жыл бұрын
Man Simon, as a cad tech, I spend a lot of time in front of a computer. Listening to your multiple channels makes my day go by quicker. Love your work and all the work behind the scenes your channel goes through. Love all of it. Keep it up.
@fantabulisticous
@fantabulisticous 3 жыл бұрын
"The kinds of abuses towards workers a the Triangle Shirt Factory would never be tolerated in America again." Well if you ignore the warehouse, meat packing, and restaurant industries, then your right.
@SoundShinobiYuki
@SoundShinobiYuki Жыл бұрын
That's exactly why those industries like to hire immigrant workers (illegal especially). They're often unaware of the law forbidding those unacceptable conditions and stay out of desperation/fear.
@nebuchadne33ar
@nebuchadne33ar 3 жыл бұрын
What basement? Danny is absolutely enjoying his living arrangements, Allegedly
@Swm9445
@Swm9445 3 жыл бұрын
ahaha I love that he says 'cue the basement jokes" even though this is geographics not business blaze. Honestly Simon's personality has creeped into his more professional channels as buisness blaze has progressed and I really like it.
@mattbass4807
@mattbass4807 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s the best
@AltimeterAlligator
@AltimeterAlligator 3 жыл бұрын
Running a successful business _never ever_ requires actively endangering workers' lives. If owners resist sensible workplace safety measures (emphasis on sensible), it means they're _not confident_ in their earning potential. These owners get kicked around by flighty investors, and panic when the pressure's on. This is not a product of any economic system. It's not a symptom of greed or excess. It's just meekness.
@Opaleye96
@Opaleye96 3 жыл бұрын
maybe you could talk about the radium girls on Biographics? another story about factory women and how they changed workplace laws
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a story on the Grenfell tower fire in London.
@terryenby2304
@terryenby2304 3 жыл бұрын
Was going to say this. And how despite much campaigning, council blocks still have flammable cladding on. Because their appearance to the gentrified is more important than the lives inside!
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 3 жыл бұрын
@@terryenby2304 Don't forget the new and improved asbestos free fire retardant on the beams of the World Trade Center.
@warailawildrunner5300
@warailawildrunner5300 3 жыл бұрын
@@terryenby2304 And how our tory government yet again has shot down a law to force the building owners / builders to change / remove the cladding instead of passing the cost onto the people who live there and are now living in tinderboxes.
@christophevandenberghe8531
@christophevandenberghe8531 3 жыл бұрын
This reminded me of the fire at the "Innovation" departement store in Brussel in 1967, a lot of people died due to negligent or laxism ,One of the biggest disasters in Belgian history. Perhaps a good idea for a video
@karenlobosco9646
@karenlobosco9646 3 жыл бұрын
There's a saying, "It always takes a tragedy to change the laws."
@Simon-hb9rf
@Simon-hb9rf 3 жыл бұрын
its of small comfort to those that realise the only thing they can offer to make a better world is their lives, in the hope someone might notice and finally pay attention. its easy to look back and condemn, but for many this is still true today.
@blessd24
@blessd24 3 жыл бұрын
And it's close cousin: "never waste a tragedy."
@cocoaorange1
@cocoaorange1 Жыл бұрын
Sad but true.
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink Жыл бұрын
And sometimes even that isn't enough to change laws.
@lord6617
@lord6617 3 жыл бұрын
4:15 sounds like amazon today, its so great that we are getting back to our good old fashioned american roots!
@MySerpentine
@MySerpentine 3 жыл бұрын
IKR?
@alexstephens5877
@alexstephens5877 3 жыл бұрын
"Such abuses will never be tolerated again" *laughs in fast food and delivery worker*
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink Жыл бұрын
Or any factory worker in Bangladesh.
@trinaskyrme8769
@trinaskyrme8769 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Danny can’t get his conditions changed in the basement as he can’t get out to complain 😱
@itarry4
@itarry4 3 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely certain that if we knew the code and wrote down all the words Simon says from the script we could see his pleas for help. We just need to work out what the key to the code is.
@trinaskyrme8769
@trinaskyrme8769 3 жыл бұрын
@@itarry4 true! There must be a key to some of what Danny says. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. Must watch closer., 🤔
@PaulTheFox1988
@PaulTheFox1988 3 жыл бұрын
I think at this point he's given up and just writes extremely long intros to wear Simon down until he can't take any more and let's them go out of sheer exhaustion. Allegedly.
@trinaskyrme8769
@trinaskyrme8769 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaulTheFox1988 poor Danny we’ve been so invested in the poor soul since business blaze started and now sam might be going the same way 😂
@evangillies198
@evangillies198 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how Simon can handle Geographics, biographics, top ten, mega, side projects, and be Coyote from Brave Wilderness. Amazing.
@alfredstevens5276
@alfredstevens5276 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what the cocaine and “indentured” staff are for.
@jamietate3526
@jamietate3526 2 жыл бұрын
"we go to work knowing we're not being put in harm's way" cue laughter from anyone who's worked in food production
@ivarkich1543
@ivarkich1543 3 жыл бұрын
Today, two of my favorite channels (Geographics and Weird History) tell about fires, and there's more: today in Riga, the capital of my country Latvia, a deadly hostel fire took a place (8 persons dead). Just a coincidence?
@actiondork
@actiondork 3 жыл бұрын
"...bribing police officers to beat them with nightsticks and arresting them when they fought back." Some things never change.
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 3 жыл бұрын
Who today bribes cops to do that?
@apostoloschristou4479
@apostoloschristou4479 3 жыл бұрын
@@PrezVeto they dont need to be bribed, it seems that they do it anyway
@Karthonic
@Karthonic 3 жыл бұрын
My friend did a projection based memorial for the workers on the anniversary of the fire in 2017. And almost every year someone leaves flowers on the sidewalk. I haven't been frequently in the area since graduation so I'm not sure if they still do it. (Also thought it might be interesting to note, the Brown Building houses the Chemistry department.)
@DCB2018
@DCB2018 3 жыл бұрын
I have had a copy of this documentary made by PBS American Experience, for a few years now, the door was locked.
@linda10989
@linda10989 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad the owners were left with no repercussions whatsoever. I hope they died painfully...as bad as their workers did!
@rogerszmodis
@rogerszmodis 3 жыл бұрын
When the most sophisticated fire fighting equipment is barely a step above a bucket chain, I’m shocked anyone survived.
@sprague49
@sprague49 3 жыл бұрын
The 2013 Dhaka garment factory collapse in Bangladesh killed 1134 workers. Building owners were warned of structural cracks but ignored them. Attitudes toward workers don't change, they just move elsewhere.
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like working at the warehouses of a certain online retailer.
@williamreese6998
@williamreese6998 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon is a modern day sweatshop.
@joseybryant7577
@joseybryant7577 3 жыл бұрын
A wise man once said something along the lines of, "yea let's be capitalists, but let's not be dicks."
@nicholaslewis8594
@nicholaslewis8594 3 жыл бұрын
Can we put the fact boy in charge?
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with being a dick as long as you are not caught or at least not held responsible.
@deemariedubois4916
@deemariedubois4916 3 жыл бұрын
@Josey Bryant And our boi with his words spoke wisdom beyond his years. I have never understood if your rich, why would you chose to be a dick to the people who enabled you to attain your capitalist riches.
@WickedChild97
@WickedChild97 3 жыл бұрын
@@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 y’know, generally speaking, in terms of business practices and management of employees, if you have to HIDE HOW YOU RUN YOUR BUSINESS, it’s probably because there is something inherently WRONG about it. If it wasn’t wrong, you wouldn’t have any reason to “not get caught”
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718
@fvckyoutubescensorshipandt2718 3 жыл бұрын
@@WickedChild97 right and wrong are matters of opinion. If a business owner's opinion differs from that of his customers (or lawmakers) that alone is reason enough to hide it. And that's even before considering the legal reasons.
@rami_ungar_writer
@rami_ungar_writer 3 жыл бұрын
Someone send this to Jeff Bezos and tell him not to let history repeat itself.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon overworks their employees to the point of exhaustion, and that is a problem, but it's also an order of magnitude better than what these women endured. No native-born American alive today can understand what sweatshop work is like.
@pingukutepro
@pingukutepro 3 жыл бұрын
Someone send this to the communist countries to improve their workplace!
@ci6516
@ci6516 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon treats their employees like children but it’s no dangerous or unsafe . Just annoying
@7411y
@7411y 3 жыл бұрын
Fires are always the worst disasters to here the details of. You either choke, burn, jump to end it all the more faster, or are simply crushed by the sheer mass of everyone trying to escape.
@kspeed419
@kspeed419 Жыл бұрын
What scares me is how states are trying tonskirt around these regulations. I feel like we're coming back full circle and I don't like it.
@whatlikeitshardd
@whatlikeitshardd 3 жыл бұрын
The most terrifying part for me is that it all happened within ~30 minutes. All that death and destruction in half an hour. If anyone’s interested in a fictional book about this, Hear My Sorrow from the Dear America series is a diary of a girl who worked in the industry. It’s a young adult book, quick read, but it shows the perspective of a young immigrant girl in those conditions.
@hooper4581
@hooper4581 3 жыл бұрын
This is why labor unions are a necessity
@JohnDoe-vn1we
@JohnDoe-vn1we 3 жыл бұрын
Unions have become just as corrupt as the businesses they are supposed to protect workers from.
@PrezVeto
@PrezVeto 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-vn1we That shouldn't surprise. They are themselves businesses, except they don't even have to compete with one another.
@craigh5236
@craigh5236 3 жыл бұрын
I swear about half of youtube is Simon now.
@neighborhoodcatlady6094
@neighborhoodcatlady6094 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@loganholmberg2295
@loganholmberg2295 3 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this after seeing the Bangladesh factory fire on the news today. Events at that fire are eerily similar to this.
@boudicaastorm4540
@boudicaastorm4540 2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that one of the owners lost relatives in the fire, and yet they still continued to ignore some safety regulations in their other buildings well after the fire. This makes absolutely no sense to me.
@SoundShinobiYuki
@SoundShinobiYuki Жыл бұрын
In the Seconds from Disaster series, the episode with the department store collapse in South Korea (caused by corruption, greed and a wildly unsafe building design) one of the survivors words at the end about advocating for building safety REALLY resonated with me- "If you're going to build a building, you should build it like it was for your own family."
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 3 жыл бұрын
2:15 - Chapter 1 - The means of production 5:15 - Chapter 2 - The triangle 7:10 - Mid roll ads 8:30 - Chapter 3 - Burned to ashes 12:00 - Chapter 4 - Aftermath 13:20 - Chapter 5 - The reform movement 15:15 - Chapter 6 - Legacy
@biffyqueen
@biffyqueen 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's a silly thing to be excited about but I recommended this and this just makes me all giddy.
@DurhamGooner
@DurhamGooner 3 жыл бұрын
Those poor people......
@user-dg9pu4pe9d
@user-dg9pu4pe9d 3 жыл бұрын
So many disasters have prompted change. The Coconut Grove and Hartford circus fire are good examples. Preventable disasters like this are reminders of why deregulation can be so bad.
@stephenkwasek1933
@stephenkwasek1933 3 жыл бұрын
This is why Simon is important to the education of many.
@Kiki-D-Kimono
@Kiki-D-Kimono 3 жыл бұрын
This is how labor unions became so important.
@biffyqueen
@biffyqueen 3 жыл бұрын
A few years ago I read David Von Drehle's book on this and highly recommend it.
@harrym9049
@harrym9049 2 жыл бұрын
An almost identical event happened in London in 1902 at the GEC factory. Thankfully the death toll was much lower but still very preventable
@sirenatheodyssa
@sirenatheodyssa 3 жыл бұрын
This was the event/story that first gave me a love of history! Thank you for covering it!
@littlearsehole75
@littlearsehole75 3 жыл бұрын
Only OGBB Legends are gonna get that basement bit.
@GlenHunt
@GlenHunt 3 жыл бұрын
separating the wheat from the chaff
@ArakDBlade
@ArakDBlade 3 жыл бұрын
Today on Geographics - the wrong kind of Business Blaze
@SMichaelDeHart
@SMichaelDeHart 3 жыл бұрын
I wrote my thesis on this fire in my Fire Department Management class while getting my Fire Science and Engineering degree at West Virginia State University in 1983. My prof, Captain Jackson was very impressed. Absolutely unbelievable!!
@bryanhess927
@bryanhess927 3 жыл бұрын
Simon, you should do a video on the Rhoads Opera House fire too. It changed most of the fire safety laws in the U.S.
@benr6751
@benr6751 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the Piper Alpha oil rig disaster? This was Britain's equivalent of this situation and led to many of our workplace safety laws being re-written and more stringent standards being expected from employers. It was the first case study I researched while I was training to be a health and safety advisor in construction.
@wanderingsilverrose
@wanderingsilverrose 3 жыл бұрын
Had to watch this because it's one of the events we focused on briefly in my US History 2 course at my college right before the pandemic really took hold A lot of this was admittedly just a refresher for me. One that I think is incredibly important.
@JennieKermode
@JennieKermode 11 ай бұрын
Disasters like that continue to happen in the overseas factories where most clothing now sold in rich nations is made. The problem has simply been moved out of sight of consumers.
@drizzt102
@drizzt102 2 жыл бұрын
This story is a lesson all across the board and as someone in a union now, and who has worked in kitchens where, though no where near as abhorrant, the system of pushing and cutting costs via 'losing hour' and other methods to cut how much you pay workers are still pretty rampant, as are many of the same issues of lack of health and safety, though again no where near the disgusting rampant ways it was here, one of the key lessons. Your employer is NOT and NEVER will be your friend. Not now, not ever, they are not your friends. They are not your allies, they are not your kindred, or any of that tripe. Employee to employer will always be an adversarial relationship at worst and an unwelcome armistice at best. Such is the way of capitalism and corporatism.
@mjyfs
@mjyfs 3 жыл бұрын
Before the 1909 strike a lot of the sweatshops didn’t provide sewing machine to their workers, they had to bring their own to work every day and back then the machines were made entirely of metal. Some sweatshops had women working from home but at lesser wages.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 3 жыл бұрын
I just read an excellent book about this disaster called, Triangle the fire that changed America.
@ryandx6955
@ryandx6955 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Alang ship breaking yard.
@questionablehistorian9335
@questionablehistorian9335 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the entertainment and information you give me. You look a little tired,I hope you're doing ok.
@nathanatkinson8100
@nathanatkinson8100 3 жыл бұрын
As the "aftermath" heading came up, got a midroll ad! For the flame grilled burgers of hungry jacks
@michelinecomeau3257
@michelinecomeau3257 3 жыл бұрын
The timing of this video is extremely appropriate... April 28 is Canada’s National Day of Mourning to remember who have suffered work-related disability, disease and death. The Canadian Labour Congress first declared the Day in 1984... more than 100 countries now observe the Day...
@chrisvickers7928
@chrisvickers7928 3 жыл бұрын
On Sept 3 in Hamlet NC a chicken processing plant caught fire. The windows of the single story plant were boarded up and all the exits locked to prevent theft. The plant had no fire alarms or sprinkler systems and had never been inspected. The result, 25 dead, 54 injured, many severely. We may learn but then we forget.
@vlmellody51
@vlmellody51 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather told me once that we lost a distant cousin in that fire.
@NinjaKitty91_
@NinjaKitty91_ 3 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about this back in my high school American History class. It was such a tragic event that shouldn't have happened in the first place and like you stated near the beginning of the video, it was completely avoidable. Unfortunately back then if you didn't have the money people wouldn't listen to you.
@mariawesley7583
@mariawesley7583 3 жыл бұрын
That's great that you learned about this in your high school American History class. I was busy learning about how the virtuous settlers had to deal with the savages they encountered in their new land.
@TheScienceguy77
@TheScienceguy77 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariawesley7583 I really highly doubt you were taught that unless you're like 70 years old.
@mariawesley7583
@mariawesley7583 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. I'm in my 50's and unfortunately went to schools that had very out of date media. Every filmstrip I saw from 1976 - 1978 about space travel included talk about someday reaching the moon.
@GrievousReborn
@GrievousReborn Жыл бұрын
The music at 5:18 is just chefs kiss
@antonw6082
@antonw6082 3 жыл бұрын
And slowly, history starts to repeat itself.
@ilanamillion8942
@ilanamillion8942 3 жыл бұрын
Here we are in 2021 and so many of these labour gains have been rolled back. There are also lots of Triangle type factories in the developing world where the same (or even worse) conditions are the norm. It's just disgusting what people are able to do to others just so they can make their obscene profits.
@bluewolf194
@bluewolf194 3 жыл бұрын
You should take Danny's candles away if he keep complaning.
@emmablake1300
@emmablake1300 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon needs to watch this. pretty certain pooping in boxes and peeing into bottles is pretty rough.
@roo5940
@roo5940 3 жыл бұрын
This dude is everywhere and I’m so here for it
@bronxer78
@bronxer78 3 жыл бұрын
Truly horrific❗️😦
@31webseries
@31webseries 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of all the stories on the Fascinating Horror channel. Once you find out how much blood those fire codes, occupancy codes, etc. were written in, Dear God do you have more respect for them.
@Simon-hb9rf
@Simon-hb9rf 3 жыл бұрын
and hopefully more anger when some corporation tries to take them away, *Cough* AMAZON *Cough*
@31webseries
@31webseries 3 жыл бұрын
@@Simon-hb9rf Indeed
@multiyapples
@multiyapples 3 жыл бұрын
This is so heartbreaking.
@WiskinWaffles
@WiskinWaffles 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Literally just opened up the app!
@drewskei92
@drewskei92 3 жыл бұрын
I just read an article about the collapse of Pueblo society that was really interesting. I don't think the subject on it's own is necessarily an entire video but I really enjoy hearing about civilization in America before Colonization so if there's something there for a video I'd absolutely watch it. Love the channels, I appreciate how thorough your research is, and your transparency when differing theories exist.
@tootallforyou112
@tootallforyou112 3 жыл бұрын
A tear shed for lives lost
@tocalifekay
@tocalifekay 2 жыл бұрын
since I was about 4 or 5 years old, I remember being in this factory, without ever having heard the story, I only learned about the story there for my 10 and 9 years old, and when I googled images, the factory was identical, I was VERY SCARED, I don't know if it's reincarnation, but anyway, I remember standing at the factory door and taking a deep breath, the factory on fire and a reporter outside, and she said like this: are you okay? i took a deep breath and took 3 steps back, at that, the fire increased and i kinda died, i just remember waking up to this life at 3 years old, it's pretty crazy
@maxandmols9526
@maxandmols9526 3 жыл бұрын
The blaze is everywhere
@nolaanderson6884
@nolaanderson6884 3 жыл бұрын
You should look into the Bellingham Washington disaster. Very interesting. And the first time oil company employees went to jail for not ensuring a safe pipeline.
@reythejediladyviajakku6078
@reythejediladyviajakku6078 3 жыл бұрын
RIP to every one of those who died in that fire
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