What is Tartaria on Old Maps?

[@GeographyGeek]

Thank you RareMaps.com for supporting another video! This video would have not been possible without them.

[@adamradziwill]

Tartaria is another name for ulus of juchi ( the real name of Moscow empire )

[@AbesYoutube]

I've come across this Tartaria conspiracy many times in the last few years and I am shocked by the ingenuity of the ignorant to fill in the blanks of their knoledge, with fantasy and speculation rather than simply doing more reaserch. In my opinion, it is an intellectually lazy conspiracy. Easily debunked by cracking a book. Not all that is labeled a conspiracy IS intellectually lazy. In fact, most of them are not. But this tartaria theory is. Thank you for debunking it and being a refreshing voice that points to a new map websight. I quite like maps.

[@DesertsOfHighfleet]

​@@adamradziwillmad cope

[@frederiquecouture3924]

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[@frederiquecouture3924]

​@@AbesKZbin😂

[@academicp1318]

I’m Kazakh from Kazakhstan, my ancestors were Naimans to be exact. The thing that personally interests and makes me believe in this conspiracy theory is that, the huge central Asian and Siberian territory consist of thousands megalithic structures, ancients ruins, huge megalithic blocks like in Baalbek. Very little archeological excavations done. For example in parents village Arasan, there is a huge ancient granite query, soviets just found it and its still operational. In the surrounding mountainside there are ruins of ancients city was build out of that granite solely, but due to some catastrophic events, huge blocks were melted some scattered all over the area. The sight is and nature is astonishing, weird pyramid like structures, fundamentals of unknown wall spanning in precise square shaped formations. All these things are just there and no one cares.

[@artificialquasarrecords6533]

I care, thanks for your sharing.

[@academicp1318]

@ thank you sir!

[@sallyire1]

Very interesting. People who have this knowledge, as yourself, need to be vocal so we have more evidence. Thank you.

[@disguisedbea5941]

"This is an excerpt of the declassified CIA document created in 1957. Or let us take the matter of history, which, along with religion, language and literature, constitute the core of a people's cultural heritage. Here again the Communists have interfered in a shameless manner. For example, on 9 August 1944, the Central Committee of the Communist Party, sitting in Moscow, issued a directive ordering the party's Tartar Provincial Committee 'to proceed to a scientific revision of the history of Tartaria, to liquidate serious shortcomings and mistakes of a nationalistic character committed by individual writers and historians in dealing with Tartar history.' In other words, Tartar history was to be rewritten-let us be frank, was to be falsified-in order to eliminate references to Great Russian aggressions and to hide the facts of the real course of Tartar-Russian relations. And this was no isolated case. In every Muslim area within the USSR, historians, on orders of the Communist Party, have rewritten history to distort the facts so that the Russians appear always in a good light. Needless to say, histories which present the facts truthfully have been withdrawn and destroyed, so that the present and future generations of Muslims are forever denied the chance of learning the true facts of their nations' past.

[@sallyire1]

@@disguisedbea5941 History is always rewritten by those who have conquered and subjugated a peoples' cultural heritage. That's why it is important for those victimized people to keep their own cultural heritage alive and passed down through the generations, because it will be lost forever in the history books. Native American culture is an example of that.

[@MaiRaven3]

It’s where Tartar sauce originated from.

[@ManicMercurianAstrology]

Which is especially funny since tartar sauce is used for seafood ? And Tartaria is basically the most landlocked / continental place on earth

[@bunnybun3353]

@ManicMercurianAstrology usually the ones who conquered name things after the places/groups of origin as a indication of triumph and disrespect (ex: ottoman furniture piece for placing feet on) there are numerous other examples but this one is very blatant

[@DaimyoD0]

I actually went to Wiktionary to make sure they weren't etymologically linked lol.

[@SkyeSage17]

​@@bunnybun3353 They have cognitive dissonance.. SMH

[@ManicMercurianAstrology]

@@bunnybun3353 interesting!

[@SB-qm5wg]

Never go full Tartary

[@jbartmontage6737]

🤌

[@elvisalexandru3012]

Never! 😂😂😂

[@masonfrancoeur2755]

That's what Will Smith said about Jared Leto going full joker because he mailed everyone his poo. I fuck with the tartary conspiracy because of the same architecture in every country and war and mysterious fires in every major city destroyed all significant historical documentation, but in every major city there happened to be these significant structures that they were just like, " yeah lets replace this with nothing to worse architecture .

[@rcschmidt668]

Don’t forget their neighbors the Teeters and how they integrated to become Teeter-Tatars.

[@okamifang4059]

Omg 😂

[@GeographyGeek]

Corrections: Cavalry not Calvary. Different word. I may be pronouncing Tatar wrong which is a bit more embarrassing. It's TAH-tahr but I'm saying it more like TOT-er.

[@Jon6220-i3v]

Unacceptable error

[@Desolate-j1e]

Everyone make mistake

[@Tuscarora]

I'm pretty sure its "tater" as in potato.

[@qgde3rty8uiojh90]

To my non-American ears, your TOT-er sounds pretty much the same as my own TAH-tahr. 🙉 It's alright, bro. You're not the only one with an accent. 🙊

[@frederiquecouture3924]

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[@texasRoofDoctor]

Did anyone else catch the statement " i would rather read about historical conspiracies than live through them..."? Well played in 2024, Sir.

[@harleyb7880]

Can you explain?

[@judyroy8362]

Cause we are living through one…

[@Artyomi]

As an ethnic Tatar, it hurts my ears whenever “tartar” is used in connection with us.

[@Th1nk1n6]

Can you recommend any ethnic Tatar historians, whom might cover these matters of Tatary/Tartary, Russia, Khazaria?

[@KIJIKLIPS]

What is your favourite fish to dip in?

[@Zenas521]

@@KIJIKLIPS I'm going to guess, bearded clam.

[@jonathonfrazier6622]

Hey it's a lot closer than Deutche and German. At least your exonym is recognizable compared to your endonym.

[@joe5140]

​@@jonathonfrazier6622endonym tatar was probably influenced by exonym, because "tatar" was only coming to use as only official endonym in like 19-20 century, before that there were other popular endonyms such as bulgarian(bolğar) or turk(törk)

[@saraross8396]

They may be gone, but their famous steak recipe and seafood dip remain.

[@flouserschird]

Wow A real historical video on Tartaria that’s not showing pictures of the Chicago world fair 😂😂

[@WillStephensArt]

Paper mache buildings my ass!

[@thomasmacginnes100]

WTF have you a ‘short stop’ on Think ?

[@EUROPA-THE-LAST-BATTL]

It’s all belonging to one civilisation that used to live in harmony with each others !

[@carroyo911]

It's such a shame, that you belittle people who are just asking questions, because the established narratives most certainly do not add up... I guess you can stay asleep then, no one will disturb you...

[@EUROPA-THE-LAST-BATTL]

@@carroyo911 he needs to watch stolen history on odysee

[@reppepper]

The word is cavalry. You said Calvary, aka Golgotha where Christ was crucified. French: horse = cheval.

[@GeographyGeek]

Dang, I thought I had fixed that. I guess I said it again when I re-recorded the whole thing. Edit: spelling. Can’t talk, can’t spell.

[@hanselito2416]

1:46 didnt notice the first time.

[@dexterhighlander]

Spanish: horse = cavallo

[@benjamin9056r]

Wow , you're right, I always pronounced it "Cavalry"

[@LostNFound432]

Is it not caballo? ​@@dexterhighlander

[@Dmitriy_Pivko]

07:00 as a russian, who lives in Siberia, i would say that the language of todays tatars, from republic of Tatarstan and they neibouhr republic of Bashkortostan, they have a language close to arabic-tourcish roots.

[@Mothman156]

The Tatars are turkic tribes are they not?

[@Dmitriy_Pivko]

@@Mothman156 correct. Language pretty similar

[@KumanTürk]

It has nothing to do with Arabic, they just say religious words because they are Muslims.

[@disguisedbea5941]

"This is an excerpt of the declassified CIA document created in 1957. Or let us take the matter of history, which, along with religion, language and literature, constitute the core of a people's cultural heritage. Here again the Communists have interfered in a shameless manner. For example, on 9 August 1944, the Central Committee of the Communist Party, sitting in Moscow, issued a directive ordering the party's Tartar Provincial Committee 'to proceed to a scientific revision of the history of Tartaria, to liquidate serious shortcomings and mistakes of a nationalistic character committed by individual writers and historians in dealing with Tartar history.' In other words, Tartar history was to be rewritten-let us be frank, was to be falsified-in order to eliminate references to Great Russian aggressions and to hide the facts of the real course of Tartar-Russian relations. And this was no isolated case. In every Muslim area within the USSR, historians, on orders of the Communist Party, have rewritten history to distort the facts so that the Russians appear always in a good light. Needless to say, histories which present the facts truthfully have been withdrawn and destroyed, so that the present and future generations of Muslims are forever denied the chance of learning the true facts of their nations' past.

[@timmynormand8082]

@@disguisedbea5941the same in America our past has been lost an they form it like they rather. Our past is a LIE

[@keithyoder4366]

Excellent video. The first time I ever really noticed Tartaria was when I was studying Waldseemüller's 1507 world map. Tartaria. There it was just north of the Caspian Sea. Then year's later someone who knew I was a map guy asked me about the CT.

[@ttapk]

And strait separating Sakhalin island from continent is still called Tatar (or Tartar) strait. It was called so because French explorer La Perouse still thought in the middle of XIX century that those vast lands called Tartaria.

[@Thatguyinyourclass]

and the supposedly had "bioploymers" It's honestly funny that people believe it, because all you need to disprove it is like 10 minutes of research

[@AS-np3yq]

It just means mongolia.

[@tyemich8820]

On Russian maps it's called La Perouse strat. THERE TRYING TO HIDE IT

[@disguisedbea5941]

"This is an excerpt of the declassified CIA document created in 1957. Or let us take the matter of history, which, along with religion, language and literature, constitute the core of a people's cultural heritage. Here again the Communists have interfered in a shameless manner. For example, on 9 August 1944, the Central Committee of the Communist Party, sitting in Moscow, issued a directive ordering the party's Tartar Provincial Committee 'to proceed to a scientific revision of the history of Tartaria, to liquidate serious shortcomings and mistakes of a nationalistic character committed by individual writers and historians in dealing with Tartar history.' In other words, Tartar history was to be rewritten-let us be frank, was to be falsified-in order to eliminate references to Great Russian aggressions and to hide the facts of the real course of Tartar-Russian relations. And this was no isolated case. In every Muslim area within the USSR, historians, on orders of the Communist Party, have rewritten history to distort the facts so that the Russians appear always in a good light. Needless to say, histories which present the facts truthfully have been withdrawn and destroyed, so that the present and future generations of Muslims are forever denied the chance of learning the true facts of their nations' past.

[@stephenlitten1789]

Actually been to Tatarstan. Nice place, nice people

[@leonidhavansky5413]

Tatarstan is not The Grand Tataria.. dies not represent the empire once it was..

[@jerry-xi4gi]

it's an amazing place, I just watched a docco...WOW..!!

[@disguisedbea5941]

"This is an excerpt of the declassified CIA document created in 1957. Or let us take the matter of history, which, along with religion, language and literature, constitute the core of a people's cultural heritage. Here again the Communists have interfered in a shameless manner. For example, on 9 August 1944, the Central Committee of the Communist Party, sitting in Moscow, issued a directive ordering the party's Tartar Provincial Committee 'to proceed to a scientific revision of the history of Tartaria, to liquidate serious shortcomings and mistakes of a nationalistic character committed by individual writers and historians in dealing with Tartar history.' In other words, Tartar history was to be rewritten-let us be frank, was to be falsified-in order to eliminate references to Great Russian aggressions and to hide the facts of the real course of Tartar-Russian relations. And this was no isolated case. In every Muslim area within the USSR, historians, on orders of the Communist Party, have rewritten history to distort the facts so that the Russians appear always in a good light. Needless to say, histories which present the facts truthfully have been withdrawn and destroyed, so that the present and future generations of Muslims are forever denied the chance of learning the true facts of their nations' past.

[@bigj2518]

After being invaded a second time they became ReTartared.

[@teresagoodman-walters7720]

How many times do Conspiracy theorists have to be proven correct before you stop dismissing everything as conspiracy theory? At this point we have been corrct more often than not

[@paulvmarks]

I think the conspiracy theory started because of the contradiction between the "lived experience" of people in the Soviet Union and the official line. The official line was that everything was better in the Soviet Union than in Czarist times - but the experience of people was the opposite, for example old buildings were better than new buildings, old pipes were better than new ones, even old bricks were better than new bricks (even today in Russia there is the saying "Czar bricks" for good bricks). Anyone openly praising Czarist times would get a trip to the GULAG or a bullet in the head - but to talk of a lost (mythical) civilization of "Tartaria" left the organs of state security baffled.

[@davidjacobs8558]

Tartars were written as 韃靼 in Classical Chinese, attest since early years of Mongol invasion. 韃靼 is pronounced Dar Dan ( "a" pronounced Spanish way, not English way ) in Korean, since much of transliteration of T sounds become D in Chinese. so, one could guess original pronounciation was close to Tar Tan. ie, there was "r" sound, and not just Ta Tar.

[@martinusv7433]

Not "Spanish way" 😂, but essentially EVERY European language's way besides English 😆

[@flashgordon6670]

Makes sense. Ghengis Khan’s name originally was Tamerlane. Interesting that it begins with a T and that it was changed. Perhaps Mongol was seen as derogatory and so they changed to TarTar. To make themselves sound more exotic and as a nod to Tamerlane their founder. Medieval PR.

[@DaPikaGTM]

​@@flashgordon6670 I'm fairly certain that Genghis Khans birth name was Temujin, not Tamerlane who was a different guy that was descended from Genghis.

[@tommytells370]

Tamerlane was the “Prince of Destruction” because he himself served the Khan of Tartaria… they were never called the “Timurids” they were always called Tartars from Tartaria…

[@me-lovely933]

I’m Romanian and they found on the territory of Romania about tartaria people whom they used to live on our land …more than that now the Chinese archaeologists are there together with Romanian ones together they are working on a site they found about Tartaria

[@ToMbA_La_BoMbA]

In primary school (late 80s, early 90s in Croatia) we learned about the Tatars who conquered all over Asia towards Eastern Europe. They were never called Tartars. So, there is that.

[@columbaorthodox]

Thank you for this most excellent video. It amazes me how many crazy theories are being expounded on the internet. When I was a boy, my family was fortunate enough to have as a friend a man from Czechoslovakia who had traveled throughout much of this region. He always used the term Tatar. He had great respect for the people, who were still mostly tribal.

[@MaitreMark]

My uncle used to call me 'Tatarin' as a nickname, he said it was because I was such a wild little boy, always in trouble.

[@gabirican4813]

Thanks!

[@GeographyGeek]

Thank you!!

[@mnk9073]

Can't wait for the smoothbrains in 2124 making holo tracks about the cult of "Lorem ipsum" and how it controlled every corner of the world...

[@PRH123]

When will we be free of the iron boot of the Lorum Ipsum empire on our necks :)

[@ichibanmanekineko]

😂😂😂

[@abandoninplace2751]

🤣🤣 Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident

[@joshuaelea5672]

Excellent video. By far the best explanation I've gotten for tartaria. thank you for your work good sir. 🙏

[@tariver1693]

9:40 Yes, that's the most unlogical thing in this theory - a lot of records, Chinese, Persian, Ottoman, European has been erased, but somehow a bunch of maps, which were easier to control, survived. I heard this theory in another version - that Napoleonic invasion of Russia in 1812 was actually a combined French and Russian successful effort to destroy Tartaria. Greetings from Tatarstan, by the way!

[@trapstargamez.studio1764]

have you seen that old russian flag that depicts a russian soldier on a horse killing the griffin from the tartarian flag... it says a lot !!🤔

[@tariver1693]

@@trapstargamez.studio1764 That's Saint George slaying a dragon.

[@Darkwing111]

yeah , its interesting version, I watched a lot of about tartaria too, maybe its most misterius place

[@jasonryan8147]

Tartaria was part of the Mongolian Empire before and after Genghis Khan United Mongolia. It wasn't a magical or mystical place. Then the Tartars ruled the Crimean khanate, which is the area of modern Ukraine until they got absorbed by the Russian Empire. The Crimean Khanate came about after the break up of the Mongolian Empire.

[@flashgordon6670]

Makes sense. Ghengis Khan’s name originally was Tamerlane. Interesting that it begins with a T and that it was changed. Perhaps Mongol was seen as derogatory and so they changed to TarTar. To make themselves sound more exotic and as a nod to Tamerlane their founder. Medieval PR

[@cramer4506]

Tamurlane was a ruler after Gengis Khan who ruled over his own Empire, although he was one of Gengis' descendants.

[@SeanEustace-zk3mc]

It’s Siberia before the Russian take it over the tartars get their name from the Greek word Tartarus for hell it was coined by a cleric in Gaul about the time of the invasion of the Roman Empire by Attila, the Hun. He came out of the Ural mountains region near the steppe. These these are the Scythian, Turkic, and Mongol people’s. We have generally called them steppe people or horse born hoards. In India, they call them Saka. From the Ueigur tribes of the Tamarin Basin(China) to Hungary(named for the Huns but in habit now, by another step people called the Magyars.) from the Bulgarians, who left the Volger river region and modern day, Russia, for the bulk and peninsula and southern Europe to the Vandals and Goths that came out of the Russian steps, settling in Germany and North Africa and Spain. The Irish and Scandinavian royal houses claim descent from them(Magog) and they’re descendants live as far from the step as Scotland, where they were called pics for the Latin word pictures depicting the tattoos that they wore all over their bodies to aqua Tamia and what is now southern France by the Pyrenees mountains and the Biscay. These people came into Europe wave after wave over the last 4000 years. They also made their way into China whether king Coolican ruled over Chinese civilization, and over the Indians and what we call Mogul India Mogul is their word for Mongol. At the end of the day tartar comes from the Greek word tartar us for hell because in the Redrick of the the spiritual Horsemen in the book of Revelation were compared to them.

[@viktormogilin307]

Where did all these people of different ethnicities & languages just appear? Wave after wave 🧐

[@djannias]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:00:00 *🗺️ Introduction to Tartaria and Old Maps* - Overview of maps from the 16th to 18th centuries depicting Tartaria or Tartary, a vast region in Asia, - Explanation of the disappearance of Tartaria from maps by the mid-19th century, - The focus of the video: exploring conventional history and modern conspiracy theories regarding Tartaria. 00:01:07 *🏹 Origins and Association of Tartaria with Mongols* - Tartaria initially referred to a group from the Mongolian Plateau, - Europeans’ early misconceptions of the Mongols and the rise of Mongol Empire, - Evolution of the term from “Tartar” to association with the Greek mythological realm of Tartarus. 00:03:15 *⚔️ Golden Horde and the Ethnogenesis of Tatars* - After the establishment of the Golden Horde, the Mongol rulers adopted Turkic language and culture, - Fragmentation of the Golden Horde and emergence of successor states with diverse populations labeled as Tatars, - Tatar became a broad term for various groups under the Golden Horde’s influence. 00:05:06 *🌍 Geographic Spread and European Misunderstandings of Tartaria* - The widespread use of the term "Tartaria" on European maps, often inaccurately covering vast regions, - Tartar was used as a cartographic shorthand for lands poorly understood by Europeans, - Subdivision of Tartaria into different regions like "Great Tartary" and "Little Tartary." 00:06:46 *🏛️ Modern Tatars and the Decline of the Term “Tartaria”* - Transition from “Tartaria” to more accurate geographical terms as European exploration expanded, - Today, Tatars are a distinct ethnic group with cultural traditions, with about 5.3 million living in Russia. 00:07:53 *🛸 Tartaria Conspiracy Theories* - Emergence of conspiracy theories claiming Tartaria was an advanced, erased civilization, - Proponents suggest a hidden history of a technologically sophisticated empire destroyed by world powers, - Reference to grand buildings and maps as supposed evidence of the lost Tartarian Empire. 00:09:53 *🧭 The Role of Old Maps in Tartaria Conspiracy Theories* - Old maps used as evidence by conspiracy theorists, - Mistaken claims about the accuracy and technological capabilities of these maps, - Theories about lost civilizations and erased histories tied to figures like Nikolai Levashov and Anatoly Fomenko. 00:10:53 *📜 Closing Thoughts on Tartaria and Historical Maps* - Reflection on how old maps shape our interpretation of history, - Connection between historical maps and the way they continue to influence modern beliefs, - Mention of sponsor raps.com, with encouragement to explore their collection of antique maps. Made with HARPA AI

[@ArcaneUniverse-24]

4:36 - The way you explained this part blew my mind! 🔥 Such a cool connection between archaeology and modern science!

[@Alarix246]

I found an interesting connection in Czech language: while we call Tatar the members of Tatar nation, and we call even Tatarstan their state, and the sauce we call "Tatarská omáčka", i.e. we do not use the first "r" in the expression, we also have a loose term "Tramtárie" (which I could anglicise to "Tramtaria") which we use as a hypothetical far away country we know nothing about like proverbially "you can go to Tramtaria with it", or "we went to some complete Tramtaria" when we want to express a far away, possibly non-existing country or just that we were completely lost in the middle of nowhere. In certain phase of your narration, perhaps the 1700, the expression "Tramtaria" would be better fitting for the "unknown lands to the east of Ural" than to any particular country - basically we Europeans knew the land mass continued, but knew next to nothing about who ruled it.

[@flashgordon6670]

Ghengis Khan’s name originally was Tamerlane. Interesting that it begins with a T and that it was changed. Perhaps Mongol was seen as derogatory and so they changed to TarTar. To make themselves sound more exotic and as a nod to Tamerlane their founder. Medieval PR.

[@wasif2881]

@@flashgordon6670Tamerlane is supposed to be the name for Timur,I thought Genghis Khan’s name was Temujin.

[@BlackJar72]

I just know Black Tartarian cherries were presented as the hardiest sweet cherry tree (but my sapllings were doa).

[@tiredman4540]

Peter Fleming (Ian “James Bond” Fleming’s brother) wrote a superb travel book; “News From Tartary” presumably to tap into the antiquated view of this region.

[@GregDunsford]

I always like your videos.

[@GeographyGeek]

@@GregDunsford thank you!

[@flashgordon6670]

TarTar sauce originated from when Ghengis Khan, who famously when served a plate of fish n chips said “TaTa” to the waitress. “What about some sauce then? And don’t bring me no mayonnaise or ketchup, make a delicious sauce or else!” So she chopped a gherkin, mixed it with some capers and mayonnaise, as that was the only base for the sauce that she had. She brought it to Ghengis Khan who loved it. So he said, “I say TaTa!” as a joke and the name stuck. True story, trust me bro.

[@georgeelkins7945]

Uncle Bjorn! Love your videos dude!

[@opushead]

I can tell one thing that I've noticed on many maps. All former Bulgarian lands, which we're part of Scythia, the same lands were part of TartAria between 16-18 century. What i mean is Scythia could be the former name of Tartaria.

[@cindyeastbourn7642]

Thank you!

[@krakowcossack3344]

Thank God. If I see another "tartaria is a super secret advanced civilization built in the most desolate region of the world and the government DOesn'T WaNt yoU to kNoW" I'm absolutely gonna lose it

[@Koala-jj7go]

But it's true. How else do you explain it

[@hoticeparty]

​@@Koala-jj7goyou know a conspiracy theory is wrong when 40 year old Facebook moms are believing it.

[@Koala-jj7go]

@@hoticeparty no 40 year old mom's would be watching mainstream TV all day

[@hoticeparty]

@@Koala-jj7go lmao what planet are you on, Facebook, Netflix, tiktok etc is what they watch and pick up the wildest theories. You forget the oldies are addicted to online as well!

[@mhoadievdelapaz3703]

One thing is for sure,Tartaria covers the Central Asia and Caucasus regions.

[@Mavis-u3k]

Very interesting and informative. Thanks

[@JcoleMc]

It's just what people called siberia , tartaria is used to refer to the people living there

[@WillStephensArt]

Why does it say Tartaria on maps then?

[@JcoleMc]

@@WillStephensArt before the mongols tartaria was just what the wilderness of sibieria was called after the mongols Europe started refering to them as tartarians because that's where they came from

[@WillStephensArt]

@@JcoleMc we really don’t know because they decided to delete them from history !! Suspicious is you ask me

[@WillStephensArt]

Look at google maps and tell me that isn’t the biggest nuclear bomb damage on the planet

[@SlashProducts]

@@WillStephensArt We do know because we have the maps and written text about them. It was just the name for current day Siberia, named after the Tartarian mongols

[@LaurenMacKellar-x5d]

The Byzantine St. Mary of the Mongols was a daughter of a minor Byzantine Emperor. She was sent to marry a minor Mongol khan who actually ruled over mostly Tatars in what is now southern Ukraine. There is an old church in Istanbul officially called The Church of St. Mary of the Mongols. Turks call it The Church of Blood since legend says the Christians made their last stand around the church in 1453. At the end of the battle no Christian was left alive and blood flowed through the streets around the church. Turks for centuries have revered the courage of the Christian defenders. The church is falling into ruin since Orthodox Christianity refuses to pay for its preservation.

[@MACTEP_CHOB]

What is Russia doing near Krakow on one of the maps ?

[@abandoninplace2751]

@@MACTEP_CHOB What Russia always does or tries to do.

[@walteredstates]

Man, this is why i read comments! Now i want to go to Istanbul...

[@robertgadziola1601]

But the murdering was mostly peaceful.

[@viktormogilin307]

Where do you find the facts that Orthodox Christianity won’t pay, members of faith & finances of organisations are separate entities, memberships to control the masses that have no control of the finances, only the few anointed/corrupt chosen ones 🙉🙈🙊👹🐷🚽. 😂

[@RSGEProductions]

Someone should link this to the Tartaria subreddit lol Those guys think everything was built by tartaria or something like that.

[@zombiedearth]

"Tartarian" is a place holder term for the theory. You can also use "millennial kingdom"

[@AtticusLaineBlos]

@@RSGEProductions Every old building made of stone is Tartarian, apparently. Utterly, confoundingly ignorant.

[@JoshuaHopkins-j9o]

@@AtticusLaineBlos ... Firstly... that's not true at all... it's just a term that caught on. Secondly... it's no less retarded than thinking human went through 1000 years of stagnation because your equally retarded history teacher told you about the :dark ages" that one time

[@MaitreMark]

@@AtticusLaineBlos I make fun of them on my channel, I build stone walls and pretend the Tartarians built them ;)

[@AtticusLaineBlos]

@@MaitreMark I stand corrected. Such intricate stonework could only have been constructed by an Enochian. Call Rogan immediately! Handcock needs to hear about this.

[@Stevie-J]

Alternate history believers are interesting folks. If I remember correctly, the "Old World Tartarian Empire" supposedly had "antiquitech" technology beyond our understanding. This comment section ought to be good 🍿

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

There's no better horror movie than the legions of lemming normies that think because an author or authority tells you something is true you automatically believe it without question. Endless popcorn time. God forbid us 'interesting' 'alternative history' folk put a little more effort and discernment into wanting to understand more than ridiculous lies.

[@AtticusLaineBlos]

@@tartriuspheonixdadam9308 Well, what do you have a better understanding of now?

[@Stevie-J]

@@tartriuspheonixdadam9308 Why would you assume that I believe things without question? The world isn't black and white. Subtlety and nuance exist. No one fits your description of "normie"

[@carroyo911]

@@Stevie-J You do fit the description...and I'll bet you got all your boosters too?...

[@Stevie-J]

@@carroyo911 I'm not sure what you mean. Could you explain which description I fit?

[@FaithAndRepentance]

So glad you asked. Tartaria was wiped from most History yet can still be found on old maps , in old books and even in some clothing and building styles today. Let the truth shine! All that is hidden will be revealed.

[@c.e.anderson558]

I have great grandma's geography book from 1919. Im look tomorrow.

[@AnthonyAlba-to2gh]

Nice maps. Have seen many of these including the outstanding California Island from the 1700's, showing the major coastal cities that still prevail today.

[@rhy8336]

AI Tartaria can’t hurt you..unless you are 12th century Europe

[@TheHypnotstCollector]

Tartar is also proclaimed in two popular books of the time, View of the Hebrews, Ethan Smith, 1825? and American Antiquities and Discoveries in the West, Josiah Priest, 1828-1836-ish,.... I own a few of the later. They are somewhat more accurate than what Eric Von Doniken nonsense. But both represent beliefs of the time. "Discoveries" does have maps and descriptions of the mound builders. Has 30+ pages on Champollion and his works.

[@isaacevans9863]

My theory is that another civilization in china hated them so much they said they’d erase every trace of them off the earth and murdered them and got rid of everything

[@florinivan6907]

Prester John aka that time christian Europe convinved itself that there was a huge christian state in the East that will help them fight Islam.

[@Liethen]

To be fair, an early supporter of Genghis Khan, and blood brother to his father, Toghrul may have been a Nestorian Christian. His tribe the Keraits were mostly Christian by that point.

[@loverdeadly6128]

Didn't Christopher Columbus believe in that?

[@intoalltruth]

Tiglath Presler was an Assyrian Shemite, look at the Hebrew in the bible. He was the same to take the 10 tribes Captive. He was the first Prestor. They were first solidified in Ethiopia, then the Mongul Khans conquered them and called themselves Prestor. Lost Teibes and the Promised land documents all of this. It's why "Ethiopian studies" are called "Oriental Studies" the Chinese and Slavic COLONIZED by the Black Edomite Temani Arabs took o the identity via WHITE Jannisaries. Mansa Musa was am9ng the first Prestors. North America was Part of the Kingdom, South America too. It's why CheChenEsau is in South America and Russia. Chegis Khan was killed at Wounded Knee years after he took over Ethiopia. SAXY GOLDBERG KHAN are the last of the Mongul Haord Identity Theives. AKA Prince Charles and the QUEEN of England.

[@tyemich8820]

Between the fall of the eastern Roman empire and the appearance of a centralised state in Russia, it was the Mongol khan who was known as the czar. Because the Mongols were tolerant to the religions of the peoples they conquered, they were seen as the protectors of the Christian faith, and so the title of czar went to them from the Byzantine caesars

[@flashgordon6670]

Ghengis Khan’s name originally was Tamerlane. Interesting that it begins with a T and that it was changed. Perhaps Mongol was seen as derogatory and so they changed to TarTar. To make themselves sound more exotic and as a nod to Tamerlane their founder. Medieval PR

[@AWW8472]

Its amazing how people have taken a piece of medieval trivia and pulled a globe spanning empire that was only destroyed and suppressed 130 or so years ago out of their imaginations. And what is the "mud flood"? A racist codeword term to describe long distance mass migrations that became possible with the industrial revolution. Tartaria: a mythical golden age empire that fell into ruin from the barbarian hordes storming the gates. Not a massive cataclysmic battle, but a slow invasion of foreigners. Why would dwellers of the conspirasphere find this idea so compelling?

[@dukeofhaggard9450]

The mud flood term isn’t a racist term you wokie it’s a reference to all the buried buildings covered in MUD 😂

[@DataBeingCollected]

This is great and all, but what about Tater-Totaria?

[@GeographyGeek]

@@DataBeingCollected It was originally included but I felt like the video was a bit too long

[@haolejohn]

watch "my lunch break". He covers 100 hours of this with old photos and maps along with way more than this story.

[@VeerMaratha]

In Hinduism we used call them Uttarakuru.

[@saitamapreetsingh3057]

Are they from Kuruvansh ?

[@shivshaktidas108]

Je ne sais pas si les merveilleux bâtiments ont été construits par les tartares mais ce qui est sur c'est que le narratif concernant leur histoire est juste grotesque et pas besoin d'avoir fait des longues études pour le voir, cela demande juste un peu de bon sens. Le narratif des expositions universelles est tout simplement invraisemblable.

[@kennkoala]

"The Tartars are coming!" Movie, The Thirteenth Warriors.

[@christow7989]

It's weird how there are even old maps of the entire world, but almost nothing of North America in those maps

[@DS-lk3tx]

Its not. The people in the americas were 10k years behind eurasia. They had no maps or even a written language.

[@MikeP2055]

I consider myself a fairly intelligent guy so I'm kind of embarrassed to admit that I'd never heard of this before. It was really interesting. The bit about Kazan blew my mind! Time to do some googlin'.

[@ArkadiBolschek]

It's simply impossible to keep up with all the wild conspiracy theories around. This one isn't even ten years old.

[@antonco2]

Being intelligent and being knowldgeable are two separate things

[@benjamin9056r]

​@antonco2 very true 🙏

[@bug7767]

I like conspiracies but this one never made sense if there was an empire that big and somehow way more advanced how would they get wiped out and how would a single mud flood cover the entire empire but not destroy everything else

[@its.cassie]

Consider the winners write the history... Sounds like they could have merged with the Mongols, but then one culture became dominate...

[@bug7767]

@@its.cassie while you may be right and I’m not arguing it never existed I’m saying it likely wasn’t advanced or destroyed by a mud flood

[@billhesford6098]

Yes, all B/S.

[@gwynedd4023]

​@@its.cassiethem tatarrians am I right

[@FirstaccountGotcensored]

​​@@bug7767 It could have been relatively "advanced" this was around the dark ages. So it's quite likely, if there was a famine or disease bad enough and maybe a mud slide all together could really put a small civilization under

[@L6FT]

I'm impressed at how well produced some of these Tataria videos are. How can people be so skilled at video sourcing and editing, yet lack critical thinking skills. I find that interesting.

[@magimon91834]

My uber driver one day was trying to convince me of this and it took everything in me to just nod and go "oh really?"

[@WillStephensArt]

You can read the map right?

[@AtticusLaineBlos]

@WillStephensArt You can understand the map, right? You don’t just pick a random label and assume it referred to a vast technologically advanced empire.

[@Mothman156]

I would have called him a fucking idiot honestly.

[@alexandermendez4653]

Good for you

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

It certainly took more in you to just play coy and be deliberately stubbornly ignorant, than to just have any discernment or insight at all.

[@calebwilliams7659]

It's always been my understanding that the source of the Prestor John myth, although usually associated with Africa, which obviously isn't East of Europe, likely comes as a conflation of the Ethiopian churches of the Middle Ages (hence the dark skin he is often depicted as having), coupled with the Nestorian or Eastern church in Persia, the latter of which was very small, but was exaggerated over time about it's size and its church father being a king. The Nestorian church did actually send envoys to the Mongols to spread Christianity so to some extent the misunderstood rumors had some foundations in factual history.

[@90candelarioL]

Compton community college are the Tartars. And theres a statue of an archer on campus. I never understood why a Mongolian archer is the mascot. But I wonder if its because it’s a hell where people suffer. Thanks for the Tartar story

[@manyulgarprsch]

It's the region Russia colonized!

[@reesecollins482]

Incorrect. Russia EXPANDED to the east. Very very different to actual colonization by the British and French empires.

[@flashgordon6670]

What about Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch and Turkish Empires? Why you single out the British and French?

[@reesecollins482]

@@flashgordon6670 i used them as examples as they are the most "successful"

[@CentauriSphere]

Yeah they did but there was no Atlantis there

[@giannis_toupolemou]

​@@reesecollins482Except Tartar people were originally Turkic. Which means they came from the East

[@kevineckelkampe2r]

That map was colored 400 yrs ago? It looks amazing. Always amazes me how they knew the shape of the continents back then.

[@Digidi4]

but an ancient civilization sounds so much more fascinating

[@AnthonyAlba-to2gh]

I believe Tartarians lives on in Mongols, Slavs, Asians & perhaps even Nordics. Many earlier illustrations show Ghangis Kahn as white, blond and blue eyed. Another mystery. So much is missing in this short 11 min feed, which makes some effort to dismiss their legitimacy & dominance in history.

[@ekurisona663]

incredible content - thanks, man - history is amazing

[@GeographyGeek]

I appreciate the kind words!

[@PAM2-3]

Sorry but Tatars aren't Tartars, but we rather should look for Khazars too, imho. And mostly because it was the Bohemian-Ukrainian foundations?

[@zzwiebel]

There is a lot of hype around Tartaira. But I believe people are actually talking about Atlantis and MU or Lemuria. I think there is a lot of great evidence of lost advanced civilizations. the Tartaria mud flood of 500 years ago theory dose sound fishy to me. but i like that people are asking questions. what they are actually talking about, the flood that buried those churches is related to magnetic pool shift events, cataclysms, one that occurred about 5100 years ago and 11500 years ago. lost civilizations were destroyed by global flooding not a government. I don't think our government or military could destroy an advanced lost civilization. it's more of a natural disaster thing. but i think it helps to debunk this Tartaira stuff, I've always enjoyed the hype, but it doesn't fit anywhere on a timeline for lost civilizations. And this thing you said about "tartar" meaning demon, and not pointing to a specific unified people or government, i think that proves Tartaira is not the name of an advanced civilization, but is currently being used in place of Atlantis and Lemuria. thought it is a bit sad because there are so few lost civilizations that are known by name, so it's a name that has to be deleted I guess, just as I was starting to like it.

[@derechtepetersilo]

What is that thing in the Sahara Dessert left from Oasus and Crocodilum ? ... looks like a circle ?

[@chamuuemura5314]

Hilarious jingoistic creation myths depending on the credibility of maps depicting “Cathay” is depicted as northeast of “Tartarie” 10:01 in modern day Kamchatka. That’s the same Cathay who began around Beijing, expanded east and west, then were removed closer to modern day Kazakhstan. Fwiw the same Cathay name is used as a certain airline yet is seen as threatening to a certain government that claims the territory where that airline is centered. Tartary/Tartaria/Tartarie and Cathay/Khitan/Khitai are alleged neighbors that one country tries to claim for national pride and the other country tries to hide.

[@AnthonyAlba-to2gh]

There's plentiful records showing the Empire of Tartary had their own flag. Two actually, perhaps for portions of the empire. One was an owl, other, a Griffin flag. Also I've seen maps with empire extended to North America, via color. They're written about even quite recent in history by US FBI declassified statement accusing Russia of covering them up and writings across Europe.

[@evawortman5976]

One thing that conspiracy theorists say is, "Do your own research." I didn't hear that said here. Otherwise, it was very informative.

[@mladenmatosevic4591]

Original Steak Tartar was piece of meat put under saddle for few hours to become soft and then eaten afterwards.

[@epiccrusadr8583]

Hyperborea

[@SpiritGirlSF]

That was so short would loved to have seen how folks think the city I live in is part of the Tartarian empire, Sam Francisco and somehow giants are involved. Noe to be confused with the SF Giants.

[@gavinpeters9531]

Great video. I never was convinced by the tartaria conspiracies, but also never knew the true history, which is clearly explained here.

[@GeographyGeek]

@@gavinpeters9531 thank you!

[@joshuadumas1346]

tataria in the conspiracy sense is not the tartaria this video speaks of. we just use tartaria as a place holder name because the real name was lost

[@bubbanc01]

What is in the Tar nation, so I heard. I

[@boulevard14]

I don't think people really know what the term "conspiracy theory" means. There's usually no "conspiracy" involved. Most of the time they're just talking about a falsehood or common myth.

[@postholer]

I think the mud flood/Tartaria story qualifies as a conspiracy myth. It heavily relies on the assumption, that "ThEy" hide something or lie about our "true past"

[@martinusv7433]

The term "conspiracy" doesn't actually refer to the people who are spreading those theories, but to the supposed (conspiratorial) cover-up by the "establishment" to hide the truth and to rewrite the history to their liking.

[@boulevard14]

@martinusv7433 The term conspiracy simply refers to a plot or scheme taking place. So you're right, I agree. But I don't believe the term is often used correctly in today's world, and I question its use in this video.

[@martinusv7433]

@@boulevard14 The people who believe in the existence of an advanced historical Tartarian Empire, which almost certainly hasn't been recognised by any mainstream historian, are simultaneously also suggesting that there's a CONSPIRACY to twist and hide the historical truth. And that's the difference between being a conspirator and a conspiracy theorist - the former refers to people who are plotting something malign (e.g. Guy Fawkes), while the latter contemporary term refers to people who believe that they are REVEALING and uncovering a conspiracy aimed at hiding the truth and twisting the reality. But I agree that people generally fail to understand what the contemporary term actually means 🤷👍

[@boulevard14]

@martinusv7433 But do you think that's a conspiracy though? I don't think it's a deliberate attempt per se. Certainly over time, I believe it evolved as just a myth or a false perception of reality. And most definitely, the contemporary term "conspiracy theory" is often not applied correctly. I constantly hear it being used to describe just any false belief or even any unpopular belief that breaks the established mainstream position.

[@AvatarPending]

The nationally recognized condiment of choice is Tartar Sauce. One of few remnants of the mighty empire of old.

[@PAM2-3]

Thoses maps give me a CGI rectified feeling like a chatGPT draft of an old very well knew story that becommes "artificialized", somewhat. Isn't it ? ^i^

[@jonathanm180]

When I was in the army, any time we did war games with an enemy force, they were called Tartan Forces. Many different units, over many years. Always fighting Tartan Forces. I just thought it was a random name.

[@alba..8479]

Was the Gypsies that landscaped it with monoblock and paving hence the nam , Tar Tar which was often shouted as they paved away

[@KimFareseed]

Tartaria? _Thinks back to the name of an Age of Empires 2 cavalry unit._ Okay, guess I never made that connection before. So something to do with the central asian steps?

[@juliusvillalon6816]

Tataria is the friends we met along the way.

[@Darkwing111]

as a tatar , I 'd like to belive I had own country before Rus occupied it

[@pscm9447]

I've been fascinated by Central Asia and the cities of the Silk Road for more than 20 years now ; read multiple books about it and even purchased an original 1758 map of the "independant Tartary" somewhere around 2018... I am SO tired of these Tartarian Empire/mudflood lunatics and utterly disgusted that nowadays, if I sold my map, it would likely get into the hands of these people... They're saying "they" rewrote history.... while doing exactly that themselves.

[@TheBookofAquarius]

it's time you read Anatoly Fomenkos volume set about the topic. also look up cia declassified documents. lookup Fulcanelli and read all his books. Also look up Tesla. Also Over stand the free energy conspiracies. when you think you had enough. do more research. join a local fraternity and read their private libraries. then realize you weren't loopy. you where a fish out of water without eyes to see or ears to hear

[@badart3204]

They gotta justify whatever Bronze Age racial magic superiority they believe somehow. God forbid they have their own achievements

[@carroyo911]

If you are so tired, then don't watch their videos' they are not going away because you don't like them...what's your problem anyway...you can't bear seeing/hearing anything you don't agree with?...

[@pscm9447]

@@carroyo911 What even is this comment? Are you slow or something?

[@Gnavitas]

for some will call it history while others name it conspiracy.

[@nozyspy4967]

Tatar Cavalry Archers get a great hill bonus.

[@jackvos8047]

I think the problem when lost advanced civilizations are brought up people tend to view it with a modern frame of comparison and not contemporary to the time they existed. The Ottoman Empire was and advanced civilization in it's early years of existence and around the time Tataria began disappearing from maps.

[@heh9392]

You mean Tartaria?

[@GeographyGeek]

Yes, thank you

[@MHanes-m4f]

Great wall of tartaria ???

[@TheKeksadler]

Finally the real Tartaria. I hate finding hour long videos covering my hometown's "history" that just end up being a conspiracy video that can basically be summed up by "no way these hicks could have built all these buildings"

[@ProfessorDarkAcademia]

I prepared a splendid Tuna Tartaria just this morning.

[@j.s.ospina9861]

I'm starting to think Tartaria has actually been the Proto-Finnic Tech-Khaganate all along

[@Chad.Commenter]

Man you were really working hard to stretch it beyond 10 minutes lol but good work nonetheless.

[@GeographyGeek]

I actually shaved 2 minutes off the original but thank you.

[@agreedydragon]

@@GeographyGeek I really enjoyed the video, but I see what this commenter is saying. The video basically ends around 7:08 . Afterwards the video rambles.

[@GeographyGeek]

@@agreedydragon I appreciate the feedback. Trying to shorten that section may have made it feel like I was rambling because I left out details but I didn't want so much of the video to be explaining and debunking the conspiracy vs the actual history of name. I'll chapter it at 7:08. I wouldn't recommend reading the book but a lot of what I said after 7:08 was a direct reply to specific arguments made in The One World Tatarians by James W. Lee.

[@hippomancy]

this is the first time I've heard this Tartar conspiracy theory... so not a grand theory. even graham Hancock doesn't seem to dwell on them, and he's the current player in cryptid prehistory

[@LunarWolf-H8]

You should definitely watch Russian documentary History - fiction or science by Anatoly Fomenko and Gleb Nosovsky. They explained much more about Tartaria than you will find in western videos and also proposed their thesis about falsification of history by artificially inserting 1000 years into official timeline.