George Floyd Toxicology Report: Explained

George Floyd's toxicology report that was released with autopsy from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office was released week of June 1, 2020. Nothing in it absolves those officers, and the report confirms what we saw happen on camera.
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[0a] Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office Autopsy Report. 26 May 2020. www.hennepin.u...
[0b] Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office Press Release. content.govdel...
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[@chubbyemu]

Subtitles on ✅

[@turu1310]

Thanks ☝️ for ☝️ the ☝️ video☝️ !

[@SwirlsOhMy]

I have been watching for many years, but just made an account. Thanks for the awesome videos over the years!

[@oasis4563]

ok

[@Bill-zp2mt]

R.I.P. George Floyd I agree with the BLM idea, I just don't like the social justice movement. Do you think removing police and hiring of social workers will help those neighborhoods who struggle with crime and drug abuse ?

[@adrieleje851]

Thank you for the subtitles!

[@NerdOfHarvard]

I'm impressed by his ability to express such complex ideas so easily for people with no background in the subject.

[@senselessnothing]

Multiple times more fentantanyl than what is considered lethal.

[@davidgn40]

@@senselessnothing why are you spamming this? Gtfo

[@Toroidal_Vortex]

@ip2p p You are simple minded if you think that pharmaco- kinetics and dynamics are not complex subjects, sorry. Prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect right here.

[@Toroidal_Vortex]

@@senselessnothing I guess he didn't explain it simply enough for you to understand.

[@SpaghettiAttack]

@@senselessnothing Nope. Not multiple times more. It was around average. LD50 means that 50 percent of people would die from that dosage, and he was a large, physically fit man. Doesn't change the near 9 minutes of a knee on his windpipe. How much more evidence does it take for someone like you?

[@Pinkfan112173]

In my addiction I was abusing fentanyl. I got really scared one night because I couldn't get a deep breath. I should have gone to the hospital but I didn't because I didn't want to get in trouble. After that day I decided that I needed to get help before I did accidentally kill myself. I have now been clean with the help of suboxone for almost 4 years and it was the best decision I ever made.

[@julieoelker1865]

Congratulations

[@Pinkfan112173]

@@julieoelker1865 Thank you!!

[@kayla-hn8zr]

I'm so proud of you, keep it up and don't give up

[@Pinkfan112173]

@@kayla-hn8zr Thank you so much, I really appreciate that.

[@Pinkfan112173]

@mak 10 What do you consider "clean clean"? If you are referring to the suboxone I plan on getting off of it soon. I do know that I can't just stop taking it. It has to be done slowly and I've already gone from taking the 8-2 twice a day to the 4-1 twice a day and I'm still doing well. Of course I have my bad days when I wish I had an opiate of some sort so that does worry me a little coming off the suboxone. I have had a lot of therapy in the past 3 years to deal with the reasons I was an addict in the first place so I think my chances for success are very good.

[@ryanmichaelhaley]

I'm going to fact check this, give me 12 years of medical school and several years of residency and research. I'll get back to you.

[@melteddarkchocolate000]

😭

[@reggieoverton4437]

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[@TheyHateMeCuzTheyAteMe]

And.... What did you learn?

[@ChrisRitty]

@@reggieoverton4437 wtf

[@ryanmichaelhaley]

@@TheyHateMeCuzTheyAteMe WIP

[@oneofthoseyoutubeusers]

a man made a video about george floyd this is what happened to his comment section

[@jaydensavage689]

This is how his organs shutdown

[@oneofthoseyoutubeusers]

@@jaydensavage689 oh no

[@kaylag5043]

He surprisingly didn't end up in the ER

[@yungquagton]

This is what happened to his kneecaps

[@laboskie349]

@@yungquagton This is what happened to his twitter feed

[@yosyp5905]

Whether he is black or white, if the handcuffed prisoner you have under your knee tells you "I can't breathe", you must raise your leg. He's still a human. You have 3 other people in case he somehow gets on his feet again and start fighting. Whether he is a criminal or not, he's still a human. Whether he is drugged or not, you don't kill anyone except for defence.

[@SnakingIvY]

Or oil

[@mookiecookie44]

I’m sure quite a few people who are getting arrested say stuff like that 🤷‍♀️ Better to just not put them in a position where you could kill them in the first place.

[@Hedgeflexlfz]

I agree but do you know how many fucking times suspects say they can't breathe just to get the officers away from them?

[@berpyderpy9301]

Floyd was handcuffed. He wasn't a threat. The officers were badly trained, irresponsible and absolutely idiotic!

[@TheWonkster]

Hi that’s why you adjust your hold instead of backing 20 feet away or whatever you seem to think cops would do if they respected someone’s life.

[@jannisgrotkopp4733]

A man found a youtube channel. This is what happened to his sleeping schedule

[@aurorawolfe6060]

I feel you on that 😂

[@TheExplosiveGuy]

Ughh, its 3:00am right now, I know what you mean lol.

[@owenkegg5608]

Oh shit

[@liamfraser7430]

@@TheExplosiveGuy yes man. It's 3:26 here. Been having bad times. Fell asleep after 6 am last night

[@City_seventeen]

I've never felt so attacked, by something that is so fucking true.

[@rubyromsland5597]

I know it’s not the subject of this video, but it makes me really happy/proud that he introduces his video as Dr. Bernard now!!! That’s an amazing achievement! Congrats!

[@ifthatthenthis3797]

Wait he wasn't a doctor before

[@shinigami_0127]

@@ifthatthenthis3797 pretty sure he was a med student

[@BUtheBabyUnicorn]

Lol so I did A LOT of digging and he got his Doctor of Pharmacology over four years ago, so he’s been a doctor for quite some time. It seems like he started this channel after he finished, which makes sense. I don’t know any med students who have enough time to make long youtube videos at least once a month. (I guess this could be loosely called “studying” but like...video editing and filming and stuff is super tedious so 90% of the work would not be the studying part.) I don’t know how PharmD programs work though, but I would expect it would be at least at the level of a PhD in terms of amount of work (and tbh becoming a full fledged doctor (med school + residency, possibly also fellowship) is more work than PhD), getting near to the end of your dissertation, you’re probably not doing much else if you’re focused (and he seems Very focused). I suspect he gave his credentials at the beginning of the video to lend some authority to what he had to say, since this video is likely to attract people not familiar with his channel, and George Floyd is unfortunately a controversial subject.

[@Akko1]

I think it's because he mainly states that he is telling us all this from a complete professional point of view. Since this is kind of a sensitive topic.

[@philipje1]

Over here in the Netherlands, the title of "dr." is reserved for people who complete a PhD. Medical doctors are therefore not allowed to use the title of dr., as that would insinuate they have achieved such grade on the university. No idea if that's also the case in the U.S.. So it might be that he recently completed his PhD. Or perhaps he simply mentions it for new viewers.

[@LonnyH]

I'm a respiratory therapist. Never in any text book, in any classroom discussion, any clinical setting with any doctor or other therapist has the notion of increased chest wall rigidity from the norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor effect of fentanyl came up. I'm in a specialist position and I had absolutely no idea that this was out there. Thank you so much.

[@Jackson-tb1jy]

EILI5?

[@alext3811]

@@Jackson-tb1jy That area is probably made stronger by fetanyl, which prevents the signal hormone norepinephrine from getting there. Not a doctor or even a medical student, just guessing what they means. I think the point was that you have to be current with the medical literature, and that you can't expect you'll learn about that in school.

[@Jackson-tb1jy]

@@alext3811 I get their point. I was curious about the medical stuff

[@alext3811]

​@@Jackson-tb1jy My bad, didn't realize that.

[@jazzabighits4473]

I agree with you in saying "the toxicology report doesn't absolve the officers", but I'd state that Floyd's actions absolve the officers. If you watch the full video, you can see them tell him to get out of his car and show his hands. He doesn't get out and he actually reaches back into his car. I'm surprised in America they didn't consider that as somebody trying to get a weapon and just shoot him. You hear the lady in his car even tell him repeatedly "stop resisting" and "just go with them" and stuff like that. If you resist arrest, you're going to get hurt (and in some tragic cases, you may actually die as a result of it, like this one). Don't resist arrest. Or even better, don't rob a pregnant lady and then steal from a store in the first place and cops won't need to arrest you.

[@davidp2888]

This is the kind of straightforward, factual information we need. If/when he has an opinion, he makes it clear. Thank you for posting this and being so thorough.

[@cristina5473]

Yes I agree, and he's not being biased.

[@emanuelsosa6037]

It smacks

[@danorjestad4605]

I completely agree, the video is fantastic.

[@DOOMJESUS]

YOU'RE BLIND IF YOU THINK HE ISN'T SHOWING BIAS.

[@veronicaw.5170]

But he missed in some things like how he actually was drunk and was in drugs

[@Critnuke]

I appreciate the lack of backing music on this one. No dramatization, just your analysis. Great video as always! I definitely learned a few things from this one.

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

Background music is still absolutely necessary in normal videos

[@RedWerth]

@@Akotski-ys9rr if "normal videos" mean not necessarily neutral, I agree :)

[@Akotski-ys9rr]

Touthenkube by “normal”, I mean almost every other video he’s posted

[@richardarmstrong3rd53]

Normal video= When he is talking about “J. T.” Right?

[@James-ii2ff]

I prefer if he played some hiphop or r&b in the background of this video but whatever. Missed opportunity I guess.

[@lilyzhong7458]

Key message: Look at the patient when you are interpreting a lab report

[@typoded]

yea but also you just need to look at the part of the report that says cause of death homicide lol god why is this even a debate

[@ginzingtonschnizer2330]

@@typoded the whole problem at hand is that homicide can either lead to manslaughter or murder charges. Now that the cop has been upgraded to murder 2nd they have to prove a lot more to convict him in court. They'll have to prove some how that the drugs in floyd's system couldn't be responsible for his death and that the cop was planning to murder floyd and this wasn't a spur of the moment thing. If they had kept the charges as manslaughter even if they proved that the drugs were 100% the cause of death the cop would still be guilty for not giving floyd proper medical treatment in time. It's because of the upgraded charge on the cop that this has become a debate.

[@alexstromberg7696]

@@typoded and he died because he had used fentanyl, if he didn't do drugs he would be alive to today.

[@eriknelson9490]

@@alexstromberg7696 He died because he was executed by the police. You gonna blame smoking cigarettes too? If he didn't buy cigarettes there, he wouldn't have died. How about driving? He drove there before he died.

[@dj33036]

@@alexstromberg7696 After watching this video, how did you arrive at this conclusion?

[@fetamean]

My favorite part about your videos is the fact that you break down the doctor jargon to very basic terms. I'll never forget that -emia is presence in blood. Well done on this video, too.

[@ulalaFrugilega]

I have that phrase in ind every once in awhile, out of the blue... but my favorite part is his sincere: "... and be well".

[@vicpariah3444]

@@ulalaFrugilegathat's about it, see ya.

[@okwatever3582]

Same!! Hypo means low Hyper means high Osteo means bones Natri means sodium

[@fpgamer4566]

My man Bernard summing up 2 years worth of biology classes in 18 minutes

[@aestheticallypleasingaesth8941]

And Health Science.

[@aestheticallypleasingaesth8941]

Where I’m from, Topics Health Science are not related to Biology. Which is why my health science teacher encourages for me to take it in grade 12, instead of 11.

[@floridmike4696]

This is why KZbin is full of idiots. You jerks honestly believe you just absorbed two years of biology classes in 18 minutes, which cause both the stupidity you see every where, and the pretentions that go with it.

[@fpgamer4566]

@@floridmike4696 , I did attend classes, I'm not saying you can learn high school biology in 18 minutes, I'm saying he explained a bit from each chapter really quickly smh can't take a joke

[@davidt8087]

If any white racist moron didnt get what chubbyemu said, hes basically saying that despite being on drugs, that he did NOT die due to overdose. he was murdered by choking

[@adamarmstrong5780]

Need to account for opiate tolerance. I’ve taken doses that would kill an opiate naive person. If he was able to vocalize his symptoms of lack of air he was not overdosing.

[@EyeOfJanuary]

Well if you can clearly say that you cannot breathe, then you can fucking breathe.

[@Giaphaige]

@@EyeOfJanuary no ❤

[@The_Mangolorian]

@@EyeOfJanuary Care to ask him now?

[@Dd12389]

@@Commodore4eva ok, what about the meth? Got a perscription from doctor White?

[@katya_fhs]

@@EyeOfJanuary maybe. Doesn't mean you're breathing properly, and he eventually stopped responding while the policeman still had his knee on him.

[@checkyourhead9]

I did a goofball once in Seattle in 2002 and I can't believe I didn't die. Speed dope and coke. 6 years off heroin and I'm so grateful

[@ajossi]

Sounds like a case for the defense of Derek chauvin.

[@APoliticalConfusionAndMess]

Good.

[@ajossi]

@@APoliticalConfusionAndMess ha ha ( ˘ ³˘)♥

[@saltyduckie]

congrats fam

[@MacetazzOpina]

I loved heroin x coke it’s the best I’ve ever felt in my life, better than any conceivable drug, better than sex, better than anything. And that’s why I’m so glad I had the strength to leave all of that behind

[@kaylagonzalez3465]

Another thing to keep in mind is that tolerance builds very quickly with opioids. A "lethal dose" for an opioid naive person can be drastically different from someone with a long-standing daily habit. "Treat the patient, not the chart."

[@cullenyoung4776]

Exsactly esspically with fentnyl, herion you still get high even after months of use , with fent once you get a tolerance it doesn't do shit that's why I got sober in the first place because I was having to do it every few hours and it wasn't even fuckin doing anything I could do a gram of only fent and not get high at the peak of my addiction, and I was buying the shit that my dealer used to cut his herion with which is now shit Bec of tolerance but also fentanyl is more profitable so he just got very low quality h and threw the shit in thier

[@Lovelife-lw7fy]

Go watch the video with the police body cam and you’ll see how high Floyd was. But yes the body begins to build a resistance to opioids requiring increase intake to have the same effect. However fentanyl in the smallest dosages have caused death and Floyd had fentanyl in his system . His cardiopulmonary status was already compromised due to use of opioids, atherosclerosis, Covid and age .

[@zzodysseuszz]

Doesn’t matter. He still had a dosage enough to kill him and he was reacting exactly as one would when dying of drugs.

[@lazyassdre]

@@zzodysseuszz *literal doctor explaining how it didn't look like he was overdosing on drugs in the video* wannabe youtube star: he clearly overdosed and died because of it.

[@Delimon007]

Same thing with drinking. My uncle was drinking a whole ass bottle a day (the big ones not the small ones) and some how not getting liver poisoning. Most people would be dead, I'm just thankful he's still alive.

[@FriedrichTheGreatest]

Random cashier: "Hmmm this bill looks kinda fake" 1 week later the entirety of United States collapses

[@universaleliteinc.6554]

The sad part was that it wasn’t even fake :/

[@trungkiennguyenhuu2072]

Yikes

[@mrtony80]

It's crazy to think about the sequence of events that led to where we are now.

[@theinternetofmoney2182]

@@universaleliteinc.6554 are you sure of this. I read reports of ink on the bill being wet.

[@universaleliteinc.6554]

The Internet of Money a huh sure

[@MojoRisingTV]

I remember when i first found this channel, it was so small and i saw it as "Doctor creates youtube channel for hobby" I always knew he would do really well making genuine and technically original content, now here he is sharing critically needed factual information on a topic so many people are losing there heads, and freedom over. On his free time, a literal Samaritan. Its more then just a youtube channel, its more then just one man's hobby, everything said was more then needed to be said, i am grateful to of even discovered this individual in the first place. Thank you for sharing once again Dr Bernard, you are in my opinion the future of medical personnel, from everything from sharing this info along with a professionally educated opinion, to your career as a doctor, utilizing youtube as a form of communication, its brilliant, keep up the good work, and know that some of us see you as a pioneer in the field of medical practice.

[@autumnbackhaus7209]

Nicely stated!

[@nicholaswilliams4507]

Yea he blew up crazy fast, didn't he? Well deserved, I agree.

[@olliehammond6599]

Amen

[@MrBa143]

I Just remember following a slightly obese dude, who educated us along the way, while he kept losing weight while pumping iron, and suddenly there were alot of doctor ish videos.

[@Azakadune]

He gets paid lol. But he is good, I agree.

[@snipewa4]

“We call Chubbyemu to the stand”

[@bajambus9091]

carlos Rivas and send a link to the extra footage then

[@grecco4037]

@@bajambus9091 don't worry his proof is "just trust me"

[@removeheadfromarse6050]

@carlos Rivas you're sick

[@GuilhermeHaschel]

@carlos Rivas yea yea ok, even if that is supposedly true, it doesn't grant them the right to treat him the way they did

[@manan-543]

@carlos Rivas well even if someone is uncooperative or high, you don't just put your knee on his neck for eight minutes straight until he dies. That's not controlling the criminal. That's murder. A cold blooded murder actually.

[@JK-420]

Wouldn’t we also need to know how frequently he typically uses fentanyl? I hear people can really become accustomed to the effects of opioids and tolerate doses that would be dangerous for novice users

[@alexrogers777]

Yep, absolutely correct. A dose for a regular user might be 2 to 4 times more than what would kill you or I. Tolerance is interesting like that. Its just even more reason that the fent wasn't what killed Floyd.

[@hairbeauty8083]

Yes, I was hit by a car and my doctor put me on fentanyl and I quickly built up a tolerance, I mean a huge tolerance to the point I decided no matter how much I took it did nothing and that would be a problem when I need surgery so I stopped taking it.

[@BigHenFor]

No; you look at the patient not some generalised data. He was alert, awake and showing effects no effects of fentanyl overdose, i.e. No iron chest a d the fentanyl had not been fully processed by his body. Go to school.

[@JK-420]

@@BigHenFor yeah I meant in addition to everything you mentioned, the individual’s level of tolerance would also be relevant. A more experienced user could have a much higher amount in their blood without overdosing. So if George was a more experienced user, then the blood levels would look even less significant than they already do from just observing his behavior. Clearly he didn’t die from an overdose. And I wish our country would stop moralizing opioid use, there’s nothing morally wrong with using opioids for pain (physical or emotional).

[@JK-420]

@@MrNecryptic 90% of the time? Do you have a source for that or is that just your perception of drug users? And what lifestyle exactly? I thought it was more like 90% of the users of any drug are functioning adults in our society who are not addicted to them. That’s been my experience, most people using drugs have a lifestyle indistinguishable from any other citizen. Those folks who do have problems with drug abuse also rarely lead “reprehensible” lives, troubled sure but it’s not as if all addicts start committing violent crimes

[@n9nex19]

"...and that brings us to the courtroom, where we are now."

[@edreyimendez7028]

Do they have any cereal?

[@rookieman329]

Sounds more like "LeagleEagles" to me

[@ronlyon4645]

lmaoo

[@catsozen]

Sudden Chubbyemu and Legal Eagle crossover.

[@blackopraiden]

You sir, are a genius!

[@KamalKhan-xb7ig]

Something that’s I was taught as an EMT that I STILL go by today that is VERY VERY important for healthcare providers is you always “treat the patient not the numbers” thank you so much for saying this, this is very important.

[@tonymanero7428]

Why is it, you EMT’s always have to find a way to let people know you are an EMT.

[@valentinaliu6303]

Tony Manero maybe to show credentials that they’ve worked hard for?

[@Dd12389]

@@valentinaliu6303 naah, usually its students or just early in profession. If you have to mention it, you dont have knowledge to back your opinion up, and use it as a sign of expertise.

[@eriknelson9490]

@@Dd12389 I mean.. some people probably do that. Seems like a broad brush, but alright

[@davondd]

@Kamal Khan you absolutely spot on dude. Also, did you ever attend school in Dearborn MI? You look very familiar bro?!

[@kaendeosil6789]

As an ex junkie, this man's knowledge is ON POINT. He knew "goofball".... blew me away, really. Hats off to this man

[@は私です彼の名前]

He is an ER doc, they HAVE to know these things because so many patients are ODs.

[@Roketsune]

Indeed. And, kudos for your remarkable achievement!

[@teli3982]

Except he failed to mention opiod TOLERANCE... the most important factor by a magnitude of 100

[@DrumCaptain1]

Viewer discretion advised

[@justdave9610]

@Your Favorite Sociologist cocaine has a short half life but meth does not. That's why people stay up for days on the stuff

[@wessltov]

I think the last point is very important. In the context of police behavior, it doesn't matter what ultimately killed Floyd. Restricting chest expansion and hindering both breathing and circulation at the neck increases the chance of death in any individual

[@naidoeshacks]

Well, I’d say it does matter when it’s the difference between a charge of police misconduct and murder. I’d think sentencing is carried out very differently depending on it.

[@Delimon007]

@@naidoeshacks You cannot assist someone in committing suicide, I don't see why this would not be judged along the same lines. If someone fell off a cliff or building and was bleeding out on the pavement. Taking out a knife and cutting them up would obviously, lead to the same result.

[@pugachevskobra5636]

It's egregious police misconduct that resulted in his death. You can dress this turd up any way you want to but their actions created this entire scenario. Maybe we're not having this conversation if Chauvin doesn't kneel on him while he's laying face down on his chest. But he did, and Floyd died in that same position.

[@merlinbotha363]

that sounds stupid. Any form of physical restriction increases the chances of death

[@Ari-zy2xc]

@@merlinbotha363 in cases with officers dealing with criminals its important since you cant know whether if the person is faking or if they have a weapon or not.

[@ReddoFreddo]

It's kind of hard to believe that an officer doesn't know choking someone for 8 minutes might kill someone. Maybe he didn't _want_ to murder him, but it looks like he didn't really care if that did happen.

[@allistertheantihero9289]

That is second degree murder, what you just described. And that’s what Chauvin is being charged with

[@gxtmfa]

They aren’t trained properly in how to use choke holds. That’s a big part of the issue.

[@jameswatson5807]

@@gxtmfa he didn't need to choke hold him. He down with hand cuffs.

[@Xeidasx]

When a pulse was not found and he still didn't get off of him? You don't need training to know to get the fuck off of an unresponsive person and try to apply CPR

[@Диего_де_ла_Вега]

Maybe because the agents don't want to put their lives in danger by getting infected by a drug-crazed thug. He did resist getting in the cop car as said in the video.

[@mmmcclaine]

This is one of the reasons that I love this channel: the unbiased breakdown of facts & the in-depth explanations. Very much appreciated!!

[@scurvofpcp]

@B Almost uncomfortable, I mean I've almost forgotten what to do when confronted with a breakdown of facts that has a minimal bias.

[@manan-543]

@@scurvofpcp maybe you've been watching a lot of news and media channels recently lol 😂

[@scurvofpcp]

@@manan-543 I mod a couple game servers. Seriously I've tried looking up some of that shit that people talk about in them and 99% of the time I find nothing.

[@nathanlong8295]

Hey that's what science is about. Science shouldn't be for one side but for all baby.

[@airget]

If anything, the one thing I can't comprehend is why would Floyd remain in the area after being confronted about the fake bill? That to me seems weird. It's not as is he gave the 20 and they said it was fake there and they called the cops. Instead he gave the money, got his cigs, then the employee demanded the cigs back. . . in all honesty I feel the store should be held accountable to for confronting the potential criminal in the situation since it seems like basic common sense for an employee to not engage with a potential criminal. Like Jesus Christ, the dumb employee risked his life over 20 dollars, that's just stupid. If it's fake is fake, call the cops, give a report and go about your day, but why instigate/escalate it so swiftly like this?

[@BoilerBloodline]

I don’t believe enough can be said for those who’re extremely educated within a certain field, yet can articulate and simplify their findings and conclusions in a way in which the masses can easily process and understand.

[@analienfromouterspace]

Sadly, the masses too stupid to understand simple explanation, let alone explaining more complex analysis. The attention span for today people is less than 1sec.

@@analienfromouterspace the thing is they aren't actually stupid but just too lazy and tend to see medical terms as fancy words. This is why you need to focus in classes

[@Kemachris]

Never trust someone who claims to understand something complex, but can't explain it in simple terms. That just means they don't understand it, but merely memorized facts.

[@kennyc002]

It's an incredibly difficult skill to have especially in our field of medicine.

[@BoilerBloodline]

7 years ago Dude...you got me! For about 5 seconds I couldn’t figure out why your reply said “7 Years Ago” and “7 Hours Ago.” LMAO! Classic!

[@TheNheg66]

13:25 One minor thing: you mentioned that there was no indication that Floyd was suffocating before being put on the ground, however, from the bodycam footage it appears that he is complaining about inability to breathe while still being in the squad car and not yet on the ground. That seems like it conflicts with your analysis a bit.

[@Evangeliman]

That is the one problem I see with this video, too. On the other hand, it doesn’t really affect the conclusion that it is unlikely that the drugs alone caused his death. At most, you could argue that they impares his breathing. That would be absolutely exasperated by the way he was restrained.

[@TheNheg66]

@@Evangeliman well, doesn't it really though? Isn't the conclusion based precisely on the faulty assumption that there were no signs of breathing trouble before the restraint? The toxicology results seem to indicate that he did have a potentially lethal dose in his system. And just to make things clear : I'm absolutely not justifying the use of the restraint in any way, but i do believe that the question whether Chauvin really caused Floyd's death is open and completely valid

[@joeporter4920]

He’s talking fine while saying it. Probably just a behavior to make it intentionally make things difficult for the cops

[@davidb8539]

@@joeporter4920 Repeatedly yelling "I can't breathe" are not the actions of someone who is unable to breathe. Former wrestler, and I've said it the entire time: that pin does not suffocate a person. On top of that, how else do people expect a cop to handle a large and potentially dangerous man.

[@Delimon007]

@@davidb8539 Literally every other medical professional will tell you the opposite. Speaking is exhaling, breathing is inhaling. You also say that pin does not suffocate a person but that COMPLETELY depends on multiple different factors to include their health and how hard they are pressing on them. FYI, they actually BRUISED him just so you get an idea of just how hard he was pressing down on his body. Also lets see you sit in that position for 8-10 mins and see how well you feel.

[@chrisibsen4264]

Why is this not trending, better explanation than any news channel. By far.

[@HansLennros-ry5iz]

*Chris Ibsen* wrote: _"... better explanation than any news channel."_ True, it is. But that means nothing considering how bad the news channels are.

[@theswiss24]

Hans Lennros yea. News is shit. Everywhere. Tbf to the news channels chubby emu is a medical professional. But still

[@Sarahmint]

Oh you sweet summer child.

[@VyNguyen-mw3bf]

Because there wouldn't be drama for the news

[@johndough23]

Nobody listens to Asians.

[@FriedrichTheGreatest]

A man hands a $20 dollar bill to a cashier. This is how society collapsed.

[@jacobkoster3808]

Legend

[@a1111111111111111ist]

the butterfly effect my friend!!!!!!

[@mrchocolatebean8878]

@Chuck Norris yeah but a man died, so what's your point?

[@Brian-nl7xr]

@Chuck Norris I might have read that wrong but if you didn't know the $20 bill was in fact real.

[@Max-bc3lb]

Nah george floyd could have avoided this all but he resisted arrest watch the full video its on yt

[@SpongyKarma]

This deserves to be on trending.

[@raneynickel7443]

It will be!

[@YoungEducationUSA]

BLM will riot & destroy your city if it’s not.

[@Applesgosh]

@Actionbastard seek help

[@RobizGaming2024]

@@christinatoo801 So tel me why are you rioting??... enlighten me.. this should be entertaining.

[@shadowfan982]

share it then it might

[@drewvogel9330]

I love how you broke this down. I am an ex drug addict and it makes a lot of sense.

[@mindlessfun4804]

"I am an ex drug addict and it makes a lot of sense." This doesn't give you credit.

[@君z-r6f]

@@mindlessfun4804 its not about credit, they were just expressing how their experience has correlated to parts of the video and how the video helped them understand their past drug addiction better

[@barneyronnie]

@@mindlessfun4804 Some drug addicts, like me, are PhDs...

[@georckbread3403]

@@mindlessfun4804 he has experience in the field fuck do you have?

[@dinglesworld]

@@mindlessfun4804Care to comment in retrospect⁉️

[@macpatty2346]

chubbyemu has a severe case of anime hair

[@6uiti]

haha

[@thatwolffe3802]

He's the real hokage

[@LeviLeads]

his hair gets worse every video

[@oreoandorion8375]

what about Jordan Sweeto? he's worse LMAO

[@ethanisrael4970]

It could be worse at least it's not hentai protagonist hair😂

[@skull7598]

I want this man to be my lawyer and doctor

[@lucaseastwood8850]

Me too 😔

[@GreenSmurf_]

He is a doctor. Just not a lawyer

[@Luna-cn4pj]

Definitely doctor

[@redriddler1231]

Doctor and Weight Trainer aswell as a Dietitian.

[@captaincc5700]

@Aidan Eaglesfield you're a person of culture i see

[@GaugeBlack]

Your not telling the hole story George said he could not breathe before he was put on the ground. It was when he was being put in the back of the police car when he first said he could not breathe.also George asked to be put on the ground when the police were removing him from the police car. You really should state all the facts..

[@YABUKIJOE2077]

The damage is done already. People are quick to make their conclusions at face value rather than think critically.

[@jamesagwe2981]

I agree which is sad because most of my family is this way

[@banal4975]

People keep looking for the "bigger picture" but don't realize that the meaning is already there. What are you trying to prove here exactly? That cops can't abuse their power?

[@胖卡比-j6k]

I think the video try to justify George was fine before he got the knee on his neck. But it is hard to say because by the video he swallowed the drug during that time. I honestly don't know what killed him, or how hard the police press his knee.

[@Just_aV6]

For real tho, trump 2020

[@jorgetheyellowgreenbean5908]

@@DM-kv9kj there are not normally police who murder and profile people in George Floyd’s case he got reported and got lead into being restrained The police are dumb pieces of shit but they most likely did not racially profile him Now people are hypocritical assholes that don’t know what they want and hate all or most police for the actions of a few Most people are not racially profiled and viral videos of “police brutality” are completely justified reactions from police that are recorded by idiots who don’t know the law and take all context out of the videos Some police are afraid to do there job because of violent pieces of trash who vow to kill police or hurt them And the rioters at protests that steal things, damage things, and hurt police officers when they block traffic Some protesters are non violent and want to change things I don’t think there’s much that needs to change because its very good but not perfect But they don’t do anything bad I’m not saying that all police are good most of them are and in not saying all protesters are rioters And I am saying that the George Floyd killing was unlawful and horrible Sorry for sounding illiterate

[@MrLuffy9131]

Fentanyl activating opioid receptors can also suppress your brains ability to detect CO2 levels in the body, potentially causing a person to stop breathing

[@knowjusticeknowpeace1478]

Or a knee on your neck with somone also compressing the lungs.

[@thepope2412]

@@knowjusticeknowpeace1478 he died at the hospital

[@knowjusticeknowpeace1478]

@@thepope2412 no he didn't. You can clearly see he became completely unresponsive about 3ish min into him being asphyxiated. He was heald for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. You can see when he goes completely limp. He was still a ragdoll when the cops dragged him to the stretcher. He was dead before the ambulance even got there. I'm a combat vet, U.S.M.C, and my wife works in emergency medicine.

[@kwasiandoh6780]

kNOw Justice kNOw Peace George Floyd said “I am gonna die” before the officer hade his knee on his neck

[@thepope2412]

@@knowjusticeknowpeace1478 Read his autopsy. Took his blood at 9:00 before he died. He was declared dead at 9:25.

[@SidneyCritic]

If the guy was as incapacitated as they are trying to allude to, why would you need to restrain him with a knee to the neck. He would just be lying there doing nothing.

[@jt203]

Have you seen people on meth, bath salts, flakka? They can go nuts and have superhuman strength. The cops don't know what he has in his system, and he's huge. They were restraining him until the ambulance came. It was a fuckup, but multiple cops restraining a giant guy on drugs isn't abnormal.

[@TruePeaceSeeker]

@@jt203 If that were the case, perhaps use the knee on his back then

[@HaqqAttak]

Knees on neck is an Israeli tactic these men were trained in. If you don't want our police acting this way end Israeli collusion.

[@walmarttaco275]

HaqqAttak And how exactly will that solve the problem of systemic racism in the US?

[@charliehelyes]

@@jt203 in the UK or in any European police force the whole process would have been abnormal, it was murder plain and simple, so you use unreasonable force on someone who MIGHT go nuts?

[@FatalShotGG]

I remember him yelling "I can't breathe" while sitting in the cop car

[@deegestrider7781]

he was already having a medical episode when they crushed him

[@joplumridge3974]

As someone who has been given an overdose of fentynl and hydromorphone in hospital after a surgery, I know what that feels like. I stopped breathing after I passed out. It was put in my IV, I texted my husband, and then it hit. Couldn't even vocalize let alone move, and it was only a couple minutes later I wasn't breathing. That is what Dr. Bernard is describing with chin to chest.

[@privateprivate5302]

my bro is beyond. chin to chest often. during mid convo.

[@KSWA21]

Your personal experience doesn’t trump a professional medical doctors assessment. You’re just some random.

[@IAmPez]

"Couldn't even vocalize let alone move" So you definitely wouldn't have been able to shout "I cant breathe" dozens of times, loud enough for multiple witnesses to hear then? Strange that eh? When you actually can't breathe, you can't talk either. Was that the performed miracle that earned old George his sainthood?

[@LordMalice6d9]

@@KSWA21 Doctors are not God and are not infallible you know.Your appeal to credentials fallacy makes your argument null and void. I have known and met many Doctors who are arrogant, ideologically driven assholes.

[@joplumridge3974]

Okay, the point I was trying to make is that it didn't appear in the video that he was dying of an overdose, being as lucid as he was. I was adding anecdotal experience with a point Dr. Bernard made. Perhaps that wasn't clear. As for the overdose I experienced, it was a simple error when I was transfered. They were trying to help me, not hurt me, as I was in tremendous pain. I definitely do not pretend to understand everything that has happened in this case, or however irrelevant to the toxicology report, the character of Mr. Floyd.

[@kdf525]

I have been in recovery for over 20 years and he most likely had a very high tolerance to opiates because of being a regular user. If someone who does not have a habit, say someone who just got out of jail and uses the same amount that was found in George Floyd's system, they would most likely overdose. I've seen this happen with many users , including my husband and father of my 3 children who died of a heroine/cocaine overdose shortly after serving 9 months for driving on a revoked license in 2001.

[@gilliansl]

In the late 70s we had a habitual "legal" morphine addict at our hospital. He'd come in for various "pain" and get his morphine injections every 4 hours for a weekend or so. This occurred regularly because his doc was an idiot. The man came in finally for some actual REAL problem and had to have back surgery. We had to put him at the end of the hall away from the nurses station and close his door. (Yes, he was checked on regularly!) There was not a legal amount of any pain med we could give him that would last for more than a few minutes of pain relief. He was on multiple medications to attempt pain relief, but nothing really worked much or for long; so he screamed until he'd pass out from the pain. or until he was so hoarse he couldn't scream. His tolerance was so high from repeated "legal" abuse, nothing would help his pain when he truly needed it.

[@gur262]

Yeah but. With all the time and what was done its clear that thats not it. If they stopped an alcoholic driving with so much in his blood that i would drop dead then kill him, and he didnt happen to down his last bottle 10min beforehand, there's no way to blame the alcohol for it. Might make him more sensitive sure. But they thought he was drunk. What they did for what he is accused of doing was excessive anyway. He said he cant breathe. Some i dont care - ish comments by chauvin. And the time. For no reason.

[@parler8698]

Thanks for your honesty.

[@vadiks20032]

damn america is tough

[@shadowshatto]

@@gur262 people need to stop acting like what they did was in direct relation to his offense, it's not. Once you're arrested (legally speaking) what you do after that has more effect than what your initial crime is. He claimed he couldn't breathe before on the ground, said he was claustrophobic when they out him in the car, so they pulled him back out and he threw himself on the ground. What should a cop think when someone claims to be claustrophobic if put in a car, yet the man was just pulled him from his own car? A lie.

[@undeadarmy19]

One thing that he should have explained here is that "homicide" as a cause of death does not mean he was murdered. There are only 3 options to use between accidental, natural, and homicide. Homicide just means that you died due to another persons actions, it doesn't necessarily mean "murdered". Want to clarify that for so that there isn't any confusion.

[@Ballox]

It was the "Manner of Death" not even the cause

[@undeadarmy19]

@@Ballox yes thats right. My bad.

[@undeadarmy19]

@@Ballox I want to make it clear here though. Because it seems like nowadays people think that if you defend any kind of misinformation about one thing, that it means that you must not agree with the ENTIRE argument or some shit. I 100% agree that the officer needs to be charged and should go to jail. From what I have seen 99% of people believe this. The next question is, on what charge? One thing that people need to understand, is that upgrading a charge to one that has a higher penalty, doesnt mean that the prosecutor is taking the case any more seriously, The same goes vice versa. If the prosecutor were to downgrade charges, it doesnt mean that he is taking it LESS seriously. Charges have to fit the crime, and upgrading or downgrading charges based on public outcry is a fools errand and is not equal justice under law. Now, there is a decent chance that the officer gets off on 2nd degree murder. The reason being, the prosecutor has to prove that the cop had INTENT to kill Floyd. This is going to be VERY hard to prove. This LOOKS much more like the officer showed malicious disregard for Floyds life, which is 3rd degree murder. Also, the cops being charged with "aiding and abetting", this will ALSO be VERY hard to prove. The cops simply standing around and not doing anything to stop the main cop doesnt constitute "aiding and abetting" under Minnesota law. Aiding and abetting is more a case where the cops knew about a crime and had intent to aid in the crime itself. None of this is to suggest that the cops should be let free, quite the opposite. Because if they overcharge and the cops are acquitted, thats going to be very bad. Same thing happened with George Zimmerman. The prosecutor saw all of the public outcry and wanted to charge with the highest possible penalty, without really caring too much about whether or not they could actually convict ON that charge. They failed to convict and now GZ is free. We will see here in about a year or so i suppose.

[@orangeworm]

@@undeadarmy19 to some, it's considered "murder", because chauvin had malicious intent. but i think many of us have the good sense to not push for the highest charge, because there is nothing really that can be used to prove premeditation, it was a decision made on the spot to possibly kill george. i know that when people were more worked up, everyone was bent on chauvin getting convicted of 1st degree, but the more level-headed folks on social media pointed out that it would be a failed conviction, which could complicate the matter at hand: prosecution.

[@ellav.1521]

cheryl The only sketchy thing is that they worked security at the same club for well over 10 years... They definitely must’ve known each other, if not have known *of* each other because this killer cop had a history of being a dick.

[@Lovelife-lw7fy]

Watch the almost one hour video with the police body cam . You’ll see how high Floyd was . It was not a racist issue . They tried so hard to calm him down . People kept telling him to stop and get in the police car . His behavior was so erratic but that officer was disgusting and down right criminal . All Floyd had to do was comply . However I don’t think Floyd was anywhere near an outstanding citizen to deserve a statue . He was a felon who had a long wrap sheet . Pulled a gun on a pregnant woman and in prison for 5 years along with multiple arrests. He neglected his wife and child .

[@gmiller863]

None of what you stated has anything to do with Mr Floyd death. He was unalived on video and the whole world has seen it, not to mention the medical information supports what we saw.

[@gmiller863]

@@adam2956 that is not completely true, or at all relevant to the video or the autopsy, but at least I know where you get your news from. The documents are publicly available, all you have to do is search. There is no reason to be that low information when you have the internet available.

[@cmthomas07]

@@gmiller863🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gmiller863]

@@cmthomas07🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@WDBerry-bh4oe]

He was saying "I can't breathe" long before anyone stood on his neck...

[@robsor85]

And he asked to be put on the ground. Dude was possessed.

[@sliverspoon195]

He was having an anxiety attack, while having heart conditions that makes someone hyperventilate

[@sliverspoon195]

@@robsor85 he asked to be put on the ground not choked

[@robsor85]

@@sliverspoon195 You know what. I never watched the choking video. I just said. Justice will take its course. No need for anyone to carry on like they were/are doing. If the cops are bad they will face consequences. Then I watched the body cam footage. Then I went to see the "choking" part. The one that started it all. How the F do you choke someone with a knee to the back of the neck? Air goes down the front! You can see him lifting his head. Twisting his body! How does he talk and talk and talk and talk while being "choked"? I can stop myself from talking with two fingers to the throat. These officers were trained to restrain perps with a knee. This is to keep their hands open and its effective. A small cop can keep a big guy firmly in place with one knee. Now Im sure its not fun....but he got himself in that position. If he hadn't talked so much shit and been so erratic and acted a fool by getting out of a perfectly good car seat to lay on the ground he would have lived...or died without anyone nearby. Or had been rushed to hospital. You watch the body cam video and you could loose count of the choices he made that lead to his death. Including taking a lethal load of drugs. Getting into a car with passengers to go for a drive. Every time he resisted. If you take so many drugs you cannot get out one coherent sentence to save your own life. "I sorry officer. I took drugs and I'm not feeling good" "I took drugs and I can't breath" If you cant sit still for two seconds to put cops at ease that you aren't planning to attack them while the cops put the gun away (which was never pointed anywhere near his face) within a minute. They weren't preventing breath from entering his body. The only thing preventing his chest from inflating was his own body weight and the chemicals in his system. And the shit coming out of his mouth. Everyone only assumes he chocked because he died but it just does not mesh. Cops likely thought he was finally calming down or falling asleep or passing out when he slowly...slowly... stopped talking. Honestly...how do you get so many words out when you are busy dying while being choked. Get real Edit : Typos and edit: When I heard he was choked I assumed he had been lying on his back with a knee to his throat. Not on his stomach. Honestly this is so full of BS I cant believe it. This guy caused a perfect alignment of shit to go wrong for himself and the officers that had the unfortunate job of dealing with his personal disaster in the making. That's how tragedies go I suppose

[@robsor85]

@@sliverspoon195 Have you ever hyperventilated? Talk much? If memory serves me you kinda give up talking to focus on breathing.

[@atlas3928]

Thank you for speaking out about this and spreading more awareness. Hats off to you, bro

[@PlankDot]

@LOS ANGELES - 144 mm Well many aren't aware of what was in the autopsy. They might know a little, but a breakdown on the autopsy can help those who are less informed.

[@dunbethedumpy]

LOS ANGELES - 144 mm you wish you can do better

[@engelheim457]

@LOS ANGELES - 144 mm A police killing a stoned thief. Police brutality. The end.

[@thisguy6466]

Was there anyone unaware before this? It's kinda hard to miss lol

[@Xcris_crosX]

@@engelheim457 He wasn't a thief. He paid with $20. Was the clerk experienced enough to detect it was fake? Was it ever proven it was a counterfeit bill? If you've ever worked in retail or banking you would know there are times a customer isn't even aware they are in possession of counterfeit money

[@sylvaindemoulin1680]

Check the body cam footage now, George had been yelling he couldn't breathe for 20 minutes, how are they supposed to believe him ?

[@Sminelo]

Maybe the hyperventilating from suddenly having a gun in your face caused that? Also, even then it doesn't justify them murdering him.

[@maiapohlhaus9734]

it's called a panic attack which he mos likely was having. it's a constricting feeling

[@nathanyamaha465]

Drugs are bad kids. Mmmkay

[@napalmsticks6494]

@@Sminelo even if he was completely healthy, it is pretty clear the cop didn't mean to kill him, he should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

[@ptl3667]

@@Sminelo George killed himself. He was on drugs, passing counterfeit money, and resisting arrest. George Floyd killed himself!

[@drazlet]

Derek Chauvin has been found guilty.

[@CarefaceKarl]

One of my best friends died alone in hes apartment from taking tramadol that actually contained fentanyl, he was also on speed. However the toxioligy report said no values where out of the ordinary. He's heart just stopped, he was alone in hes apartment, died sitting down in hes couch.

[@notsogreen]

That's usually called accidental overdose. Meaning neither quantities were enough to OD from but the combination did it.

[@summertimerobot437]

That's very tragic and sad. Sorry for your loss.

[@CarefaceKarl]

@@notsogreen people who do meth, speed and such dont really sleep as well and doing it for years, at some point The heart Will give out

[@chewyjello1]

I'm sorry for your loss. But if you don't mind me asking...how did the tramadol have fentanyl in it? Tramadol is a legal drug that falls under FDA guidelines. It shouldn't be possible to get tramadol with fentanyl in it. We're the pills maybe coated with fentanyl by a third party?

[@CarefaceKarl]

@@chewyjello1 tons of fake tramadol and benzos i Europe. Very rarely do pills come from pharmacy here. Most of the time they're from spain and real but sometimes they're fake and laced with fentanyl. Edit: im from Sweden

[@onilovni1234]

Yet some people keep saying that he overdosed like a junkie. Chauvin's trial will be a terrible mess.

[@connman8d617]

Remember that the burden of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Is it reasonable to suggest that Chauvin's actions would not have killed somebody who wasn't hopped up on illegal drugs? Why yes...yes it is. I think what he did was terrible and it was very clear to me that he was trying to make George Floyd uncomfortable, but Murder is not going to be that easy of a case to make.

[@timpeter987]

@@connman8d617unless the judges are going to set an example he probably will be found guilty of manslaughter rather then murder, since murder is a very specific legal term. At least he'll always be known as the monster he is.

[@azerohiro]

@@connman8d617 Even with that point, his actions would've killed someone with asthma or any other of lung disease. So, whether it's illegal drugs or an underlying health condition, what does it matter? They're both technically underlying health conditions, the only difference is one is temporary. If someone says "I can't breathe." for 8+ minutes, I'm thinking any reasonable person would've showed at least a morsel of restraint. A police officer should naturally be trained in at least some form of basic observation, such as being able to observe whether or not a person is succumbing to death. So, there is no doubt a higher standard that should be held when it comes to trained police officers committing egregious acts of brutality.

[@onilovni1234]

@@connman8d617 You probably don't know what's my day job, and it's alright. But I knwo that criminal law is different in many countries but a 2nd degree murder charge is often similar through all jurisdictions, and it implies having a role in the death of someone else. We shouldn't care about the fact that the victim was fragile by nature, or at risk of cardiac arrest, or on drugs like Floyd for instance. Hence the overdosing comment...

[@SevScout]

How about he didn't overdose, but had just about enough shit in his system, to be frail enough for normal law enforcement to kill him? Reaching a conclusion without connecting all the dots is a really slippery slope.

[@momkatmax]

For those that comment that if he could say "I can't breathe" so of course he could breathe, how many of you that have been choking or having an asthma attack say "I can't breathe" instead of the more accurate "I'm having a hard time breathing?" You blurt out the briefest message possible!

[@krismine99]

@FBar I think of a lot of people are offering a different perspective, like what the officer might be thinking, rather than simply being cold people Edit: I shouldn't have to say this, but put my comment in context of the start of the thread and the person I replied to. I'm not agreeing with anything the officer did, rather defending the intents of the people who are offering the officers perspective

[@charlotteblue981]

King Christophis i dont sympathize with killers

[@danielkuhn4360]

I think the even more obvious thing is, just because you can breathe out doesn't mean you can breathe in. Like you can speak and breathe out underwater, but you can't breathe in. Obviously, this isn't the same thing, but just an example of why that argument is stupid

[@turanmert711]

@@krismine99 Hencewhy the second degree murder charge, where he did not plan on killing him but still did so. Just because you didn't intend to do something, doesn't mean you're free of guilt.

[@Plight_]

@@krismine99 very few of the comments I've seen in defense of the officers hold any solid reasoning. Mostly it's "he was a criminal" or "he was on drugs" neither are grounds for an execution.

[@49metal]

The event that led immediately to Mr. Floyd being put on the ground by officers was their attempt to get Floyd into a police vehicle. Floyd said he couldn't get in the vehicle, that he could not breath, and then he collapsed by the vehicle. The police then forced him up and moved him to the section of street where he was famously put down and restrained. These details are overlooked in the conclusion that Floyd was in good condition prior having weight put on him. This is not to say officer conduct was not the legal cause of his death, but it is relevant to assessing how vulnerable he may have been to suffocation due to his toxicological state.

[@vicpariah3444]

eh?

[@Evangeliman]

@@vicpariah3444​​⁠Roughly, the fact that Floyd was complaining about his inability to breathe long before he was placed on the ground suggests that the drugs (or something else unrelated to the officer’s action) were a contributing cause of his death. This would not rule out their actions as the primary cause.

[@PaulFeakins]

Yep, he was having breathing difficulties before he was on the floor which goes against everything Chubby Emu is saying. A very biased video.

[@notsocooldude7720]

@@PaulFeakinsIt doesn’t actually. It might alter things slightly but the conclusion is the same

[@merlinbotha363]

@@notsocooldude7720 it absolutely effects the conclusion. If an officer does that same restraint technique to a criminal not suffering from the side-effect of their own substance abuse , no one dies.

[@luciboye5585]

i love how unbiased he is even though he's audibly and in a way visibly annoyed/pissed

[@shadowlog414]

Why I love watching his channel he keeps in in the middle not one side or the other

[@MartyrLoserKing]

Nah bro he's not annoyed or pissed, he's just asian.

[@IARRCSim]

@@MartyrLoserKing he's not Asian. He's Vulcan. He's not emotional. He's rational, logical, and harshly honest as his Vulcan school taught him to be. His hair isn't out of control. It is carefully grown to conceal the points of his ears.

[@wwlee5]

No, he doesn't look annoyed or pissed. You assume he is.

[@RobbertsTravelGuides]

exactly. its soo intresting to watch

[@TheOnlyCoachOfficial]

I have never heard someone say “speedball” in such an articulate way.

[@ReneTheFox]

Not even the surgeon general! Now, what's for breakfast...

[@IoEstasCedonta]

"A man had a knee pressed against his neck for eight minutes. What the hell do you think happened to his heart and lungs?"

[@helifalic]

The same thing that happened to thousands of other people who, over many years, received the same treatment because they resisted arrest. Did they just get lucky or are you just an idiot?

[@void9938]

@@helifalic It's usually let up when they have them cuffed. Not for NEARLY NINE MINUTES YOU DOLT.

[@ninjaballista5003]

@@void9938 key word "usually."

[@kylein9869]

Had he been sober, he most likely would've lived. Fentanyl and meth played a huge roll in him dying.

[@darkarchon777]

he would have lived if that maniac cop didn't choke him to death

[@tom_something]

The summary of the preliminary autopsy specifically ruled out "strangulation" and "traumatic asphyxia". That seemed incomplete to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "traumatic asphyxia" usually involves a substantial blunt impact that can immediately damage pulmonary blood vessels, right? Positional asphyxia isn't necessarily ruled out when "traumatic asphyxia" is ruled out, right? . It's like the public was asking, "Did he die from officers inhibiting his ability to breathe?" and the report says, "He wasn't hit by a bus."

[@Dd12389]

The report says cardiopulmonary arrest. One can argue thats what any person dies from. From the video i would suppose he was strangulated, from blockage of the carotid arteries, as the knee was on the side of his neck. But autopsie reports are more of a patophysiological diagnosis, than a medical diagnosis, at least in my country

[@Dd12389]

So no, it probably was not asphyxia, it was strangulation

[@RunItsTheCat]

It also definitely did not help that people interpreted cardiac arrest as "heart attack". I've met several people who believed he died of spontaneous heart attack from fentanyl overdose.

[@Dd12389]

@@RunItsTheCat cardiopulmonary arrest just means that your heart stops beating and you stop breathing. As i said before, one could argue thats what we all die from

[@zinzinzed235]

LONE WOLF who did not watch the full footage? Was it chubbyemu or one of the commenters?

[@BobofWOGGLE]

Even if the Fentanyl was a large contributor in Floyd's death, we run into an eggshell skull scenario; somebody being unexpectedly delicate does not absolve you of guilt for injuring them.

[@totovader]

Except this isn't a civil suit, and when those factors are of your own choosing, the eggshell skull doesn't hold up. He chose to resist, he chose to break the law, he chose to take drugs. From a legal standpoint, he was in that situation of his own volition.

[@SevScout]

Bob, you are expecting the cops to be omniscient. They couldn't have known that the giant hulking guy was so fragile, that restraining him would kill him stone dead in under 9 minutes. George went into that confrontation struggling to not get taken into the station by the police. If he had complied, he wouldn't be dead now.

[@TJ-lh7xg]

@@SevScout This man was handcuffed. There was no need to hold him like that for 9 minutes.

[@Other_Stuffs]

totovader Floyd was not violently resisting arrest so the police had no valid reason to kill him

[@Xeridanus]

@@SevScout Show me the video where he was resisting arrest. Oh wait, you can't because he wasn't. I've seen all the angles he can barely hold himself up let alone resist.

[@withlove-emi]

Thank you for speaking about the death certificate from a medical perspective! Lots of misinformation and misinterpretation going around

[@Giaphaige]

@@J0SHUAKANE Oh yeah I forgot resisting arrest carries the death penalty 🤔

[@brutal4341]

@@Giaphaige and your point is??

[@TheMohawkNinja]

@@Giaphaige Minnesota police code authorizes knee-on-neck restraint in the event of resistance to arrest.

[@petralizzy7383]

@@TheMohawkNinja that makes it okay to murder him for no reason?

[@Delimon007]

@@TheMohawkNinja Hhhmmm so why did the police chief disagree and testify against him then?

[@johnrm9]

Sorry but the "knee on neck" is not true. The defense showed another video angle where the "knee" is clearly not on the neck but his upper back. Police body cam footage show what appears to be a white tablet in Floyd's mouth while he was in his vehicle and later a tablet of Fentanyl was found on the floor of the police van with Floyd's DNA. 3 or so months later we see police body cam footage where Floyd is repeatedly saying he can't breath (11 times or more) well before he (Floyd) asked the police officers to be put on the ground. Also, police footage show Floyd foaming out the mouth - an indication of possible drug overdose. An another autopsy showed he did died of respiratory failure and a drug overdose.

[@cmthomas07]

That is what the original autopsy found also.

[@notsocooldude7720]

Knee on the upper back for extended periods of time can be just as bad as on the neck

[@bgezal]

"buttocks negative for occult trauma" Geralt of Rivia: hmm

[@geraltderivia8825]

Miner 2049er hmm

[@yeetushmm6073]

Doctor Geralt and his autopsies lmao

[@BigMo_BITW]

Geralt woulda solved this within 10 seconds

[@notoriusdrifter40]

@@yeetushmm6073 And him talking to himself when doing them. Lmao

[@j.r.777]

Excellent video! I’ve worked in law enforcement for 13 1/2 years and love my job. I’ve worked my butt off to be a good Officer. I’ve had very few uses of force and none were ever excessive. When I first began my career we were taught to ALWAYS use the LEAST amount of force to control a situation when force has to be used. I love this video because I learned a lot of things from it. Obviously I’m not a doctor so I don’t know everything that is medical in nature but this physician does an excellent job of explaining many things. When I saw the video of what happened to George Floyd, I was extremely angry! I’m still extremely angry! What now former Officer Derek Chauvin did has no place in law enforcement and many innocent Officers have died around the Country because of his actions. Our jobs are now more difficult and more dangerous because of one persons actions and I hope he is held accountable for his actions!

[@TheRealObama420]

That's a terrible and pathetic outlook to.destroy w.persons life and career and only job is to protect you. If you get shot who the fuc u callin? Oh yea the police

[@zerosugarmatcha7348]

While it's totally possible the police at where I live (a suburb village) never used force in their career, I don't see it's inevitable for the police at where I work (the city of Chicago).

[@mysticalmind3303]

h d wow ok. The police helped a close friend of mine when they were in very dangerous situation. They save lives all the time. You’re generalizing like, EVERYONE when you say that. It’s a blessing that we have such amazing men and women that risk their lives for us. There is corruption in any place, unfortunately, but we should just rid of the corruption, not the police force as a whole! So please don’t encourage such chaos. Our nation is going through enough. The last thing we need is for us to lose the men and women protecting us.

[@rundylaw6212]

@@panhellenism I don't typically support the police but envision how well society would go in armed America without consequences. If you don't see that as a negative than I assume you've never been around gun violence. There are many unhinged people in this country, abolishing police outright is an awful idea.

[@liammcfeely192]

@@cliffwilkins9178 Did this "h d" person delete their comment? If so, what did it entail? I'd like to know what everyone is flaming him for.

[@_Kbinks]

Who’s here after the leaked video from the Daily Mail?

[@ivanbanishtok7603]

I am, this video did not age well.

[@finderofbears]

@@ivanbanishtok7603 i mean yeah, new evidence surfaced, but chubbyemu was simply making an objective analysis given the evidence at the time

[@SmashhBeats]

Pasha Staravoitau get emmm 😂

[@gradenguynn7823]

Classic signs of an OD going down , Claustrophobic buy just got out of a small van that he drove with his knees , lol ....Do drugs and die from Over Dose , resit an arrest and die from resisting . Should have sat his BBA down and waited for the ambulance . From the cam video , what did the other guy put in his pants ?

[@tomnewton2784]

Yup

[@aetheronautsomnid5261]

The idea of this educated and positive man explaining to me, a scumbag, what a goof ball is has made me giggle

[@freedeworld]

The fact that he was awake and responsive to verbal command negated the possibility of fentanyl induced apnea or wooden chest sd(WCS) Though not entirely clear what the MOA is for WCS, its usually related to potent opioid use at high dose bolus, ie during IV administration in surgery. Even that is rare. George Floyd was ok for the majority of the 8m46s when he was yelling “I can’t breathe”. It was not until the cop repositioned and occluded the carotid that killed George Floyd. PS: the knee should have never been on the neck of anyone you are not trying to kill/ suffocate.

[@Dd12389]

That was said in the video. What is you point?

[@rawlahiabetes6969]

No arteries on back of neck

[@rawlahiabetes6969]

This is exactly what Bernard said

[@freedeworld]

D d that is not what Bernard said in the video... if you don’t notice the difference, you need to know a bit more about medicine.

[@freedeworld]

Justin batchelar I meant kneeling on the side of the neck where the carotid artery is. That is what the officer did, intentionally or out of ignorance of the consequence. He clearly lacks the vigilance/ knowledge to check on the status of George Floyd/ his knee position. That is what’s wrong with his action, not all neck compression is equivalent. I guess I should have been more specific.

[@MrTattooed81]

He was saying "I can't breathe " before he was ever on the ground, could it have been the fentanyl? Would he have died without the fentanyl and a knee? I agree he should have not been put in that position at all or for that long.

[@jobo2243]

@X-17 ꧁꧂ LMAO yes of course for his own protection i see

[@Vrex360]

As others have said he had a panic attack, he had been shot by police before so the sight of armed officers approaching him startled him and caused him to suffer anxiety. If he was truly dying of a fentanyl overdose he would have had a hell of a time walking or talking or driving his vehicle. He couldn't breathe at first because of anxiety. He couldn't breathe at all when an officer kneeled on his neck for nearly ten minutes. The autopsy report showed cause of death as asphixiation consistent with that of having one's neck kneeled on for an extended period of time and the idea that he was minutes away from death before it happened despite being fine and functional is the dumbest shit ever and only really something internet Nazis use to demonize a victim of police brutality.

[@harkmay]

@X-17 ꧁꧂ amazing how people complaining the police need to get the perps a cup of tea when they are huge guys on drugs resisting arrest and kicking and growling and won't comply?? they really expect cops to be sympathetic that he's scared 'cause he's been shot before? I couldn't even see him holding a knee on his neck- it was on his back and the guy was talking so he's not being choked from what I can see. there's a decent chance the guy swallowed a bag of meth when the cop tapped on the window and maybe that's part of why he was freaking out too and effected his heart? people criticising cops as if they should have to put up with threats? he may have already known the car rego owner was a dangerous criminal and the shop said they were intoxicated. The cops don't know what might happen in the blink of an eye and they are also there to protect the other public and each other. when the big bloke started to comply he put the gun away straight away and started trying to calm him down. asked him to 'take a seat'. I can't see how a black officer would have behaved any different. some of these people calling everyone racist over nothing could be extremist muslim or antifa trying to cause chaos to america. So good to see all the black commuinty who have level heads calling for peace instead of division. we're all the same biology

[@Vrex360]

@David GERKEN Did you mention the part where both autopsies still concluded it was a homicide?

[@Vrex360]

@Cody Harbuck Hey I'm not the one callously mocking a dead man to justify his murder.

[@jessegilbert3629]

Bet that cashier didnt think that they would start the collapse of society

[@TheRealFobican]

Even in a pandemic that already speaks for itself for the total clusterfuckery age we deal with now.

[@wcresponder]

society has not and will not collapse from this.

[@nickolascrespo791]

@Aggressive Tubesock NY State is actually passing the amy Cooper law because of that- it will now be a crime to lie during a 911 call just to arrest someone

[@ratty5]

Aggressive Tubesock So if you happened to get attacked by a black man, you can’t call the police? You’d be a murderer?

[@de-void1872]

The cashier is probably just sitting there questioning why they had to call the cops

[@jakeingram3490]

I'm a bit confused here. I'm not absolving the officers and think that they definitely could have handled the situation better. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the cause of death actually was a fentanyl overdose. In the video of his arrest and unfortunate death, he said he couldn't breathe before being put on the ground. He was also going limp at times and 15 minutes into the video he said he was going to puke. These are all symptoms of fentanyl overdose. I'm mainly confused about your analysis of this because it seems like you didn't consider that he could have taken a pill containing fentanyl while in the car before the officers went across the street. It can take upwards of 30 minutes after ingestion to actually overdose in pill form and he was in his car 20 minutes before he fully went limp. I think he actually did overdose but I guess we'll never know for certain...

[@brandondixon2138]

He was known to have an opioid addiction. The level of fentanyl in his blood, while it would kill a normal person, an addict may be fine, just walking around like nothing. Bodies adapt.

[@fnhatic6694]

@@brandondixon2138 Yeah and it also may NOT be fine. We also know a 'knee on the neck' (in particular, the back/side) can't kill you but somehow everybody suddenly pretended to not know where the windpipe was located. People have done the George Floyd Challenge and endured a full knee on the neck for 9 minutes themselves and zero died.

[@Delimon007]

If he took the pill while in the car it would have showed up in his toxicology report. It did not. WHat are you not getting about this?

[@beenaplumber8379]

Thank you. I earned my PhD in an opioid rat lab, studying other opioid actions and interactions. I do not have clinical training in the area of exogenous opioid abuse other than to the extent to which it applied to our area of motivated behavior (which was really concentrated on endogenous opioids). Thank you for filling in the gaps. And thank you for your very coherent and understandable public message. None of this science is easy to describe to the public, and you've done a super job!

[@brendasparkman2480]

Don't care what he had in system or weather he bought cigarette or if he had covid 19 or whatever the fact remains the pink pig murdered George Floyd the pink pig murdered him and the pig act like it was cute and alright bi*ch his day coming

[@lesleyvivien2876]

@@brendasparkman2480 What's it like living in a black and white world, without reasons or evidence?

[@beenaplumber8379]

@Anne Liesveld You've shared your evidence with the prosecutor, right?

[@ninckmane]

Hey, I saw you in the full body cam video. I really have to thank you for giving such detailed information about the subject and being unaffected by the morons on that comment section. You are doing god's work

[@fumino.]

every other race go brrrrrrr

[@littlemschat1052]

Dr Bernard is now almost successful in achieving Einstein's poofy hair..

[@Bewefau]

It's the Asian blood.

[@hunam_1]

Einstein hair will be his final form. I’m calling it here.

[@mesinovict6316]

There is something called uncombable hair syndrome(look it up)i think Einstein had it

[@kingcosworth2643]

If he is a regular user, his opiate tolerance would be such that a barely noticeable amount to him, could easily be fatal to a non-user.

[@HaqqAttak]

Or fatal to a horse.

[@robinfleet7094]

Users develop a tolerance for the drug, it is one of the things that makes withdrawal so difficult. Initially a user achieves a 'high' experience because the addition of an opiate to the body on top of the natural occurring, already in the body. As the user continues to use they find they are required to steadily increase their dosage to achieve the same effect over time (in some long time heroin users they have long since stopped being able to achieve a 'high' (appearing sober and unintoxicated) and only continue to use to deal with withdrawal symptoms). This 'tolerance' happens because of a process in the body called homeostasis (the body always wants to maintain a balance - it is the thing that tells you to drink water, or stop relative to your specific level of hydration for example - there are many of these balances in the human body). Once the user has used long enough the body stops producing any of the natural opiates it once did and at this point a person could easily be taking dosages large enough to have been fatal to them when they first started to use. So a toxicology report may indicate excess, but without a historical reference or perspective it can be misleading or distorting.

[@maxmcconnell6843]

@@robinfleet7094 Why are you still talking?

[@randolphtimm6031]

@@robinfleet7094 We have no evidence that Floyd was a heavy, or even regular user of fentanyl or other opioids. Somewhat the opposite. Guy's pretty buff. ~6'5" 225?

[@randolphtimm6031]

@@robinfleet7094 Also, bouncer at a nightclub. You don't want to be strung out on ludes when you're doing that kind of work.

[@bibledoctor7623]

I rarely comment on anything related to George Floyd for numerous reasons. However, I enjoy your channel and would like to ask you to make an honest assessment of ALL of the data available. 1. Please research to find the COMPLETE toxicology report - not just the initial one released to the public. 2. Please research the COMPLETE video footage w/o social & news commentary to observe the restraint methods used. 3. Please observe Mr. Floyd's behavior AND his OWN statements to officers PRIOR to being taken into custody. All I'm asking is that you perform a COMPLETE forensic analysis of ALL of the data available now available in 2023. Meanwhile, please keep sharing those warnings & fascinating cases. Thank you.

[@-HutchMansell]

Cashier: "hmm this money's fake" A week later From "United States" to "Divided States of America" real quick

[@major_kukri2430]

@Kyle S when has America not have immigration?

[@major_kukri2430]

@Kyle S and what changes would you propose? Would they be seem reasonable to the average person?

[@major_kukri2430]

@Kyle S So basically segregation? How well did that work out last time? And lets not even talk about the social ramifications that would come from alienating members of a country's population from each other. So no. Not A "Win-Win". I think you just need to pick up a history book and quit filling your head with delusions.

[@major_kukri2430]

@Kyle S Listen. It's not gonna work. Get out of your bubble, learn from History. It inevitably causes internal friction inside a nation. People are going to become paranoid of each other and all hell will break loose. Educate yourself.

[@major_kukri2430]

​@Kyle S You say you're pro nature, but you ignore the fact that in nature organisms just aren't isolated from each other. I've never seen an organism thrive in a vacuum. They always exist in an ecosystem. On top of that some species ,that are completely different from each other, have stable symbiotic relationships. Also, get real. Different populations of humans aren't THAT different from each other. Yes there ARE differences. But they are not nearly as drastic as you're trying to suggest. Take it from me. I've spoken to and have had relationships with people from different parts or this planet. When you boil them down, they have much more commonalities than differences.

[@jeffcastor9509]

The one thing that was left out here is it is known that George Floyd started saying he couldn't breathe before he was pinned. This claim comes from the prosecutors.

[@nashvilleoutlaw]

He started saying he couldn't breath before they got him out of his own car. Someone just posted the 15 minute unedited bodycam video from one of the officers. I suspect that the drugs were a major contributor to his death.

[@maiapohlhaus9734]

@@nashvilleoutlaw did you even watch the video??? also most likely a panic attack that he was having, still doesn't justify them sitting on his neck to keep him from running tho

[@ivanbanishtok7603]

@@maiapohlhaus9734 he ODed

[@niya3338]

How does saying words change the autopsy? You guys are holding onto this detail like it changes the entire autopsy.

[@jeffcastor9509]

@@niya3338 no, but it can be taken as a sign of respiratory depression caused by the opioids in his system. Yes I know in the video he says he doesn't think this is the case however he also doesn't acknowledge this fact above.

[@alexwr]

What are your thoughts on the bodycam footage where Floyd says he can't breathe before the officers held him down?

[@FarFromEquilibrium]

Chubyemu is too much of a chicken**** to do that. He's good when it's a completely non-political , purely medical event, but this one he had to signal virtue on and will ignore the recent evidence tha Floyd was high as a satellite and probably died of a heart attack brought on by drug use. Let him prove me wrong.

[@Anonymous-mp7yr]

The thing Dr. Bernard is guilty of here is reviewing the case prematurely without all of the evidence which is something Doctors are often forced to do by their patients. This is why the TV character House was regarded as a brilliant diagnostician because he could properly deduce the disorder with micro expressions and subtle hints, however House also has the advantage of continuing to diagnose the issue where Dr. Bernard could not after releasing this video prematurely. He's still a brilliant Doctor but this goes to show, medical professionals have no place in politics. Looking at you Faucci.

[@tarfielarchelone2674]

So no autopsy says heart attack but it was heart attack.

[@Anonymous-mp7yr]

@@tarfielarchelone2674 cardiopulmonary arrest was the cause of death, the cause of the cardiopulmonary arrest is to be determined within the trial. This is what I was saying, medical examiners are NOT law officials such as judges and have no place determining such things. His heart stopped, that's the cause of death.

[@FarFromEquilibrium]

@@Anonymous-mp7yr Cardiac arrest does not have to be due to massive MI resulting from blockage. It could be from hypoxia , hypercapnia, fibrillation due to arrhythmia, etc. He could have gone into arrest from the drugs he did, and the hysteria he went into, overstimulating his heart. Either way, to make the cause of death the cop with his knee on him is premature , less likely than other etiologies , and very politically motivated.

[@elzorrocolorado7615]

If you watch the body cam videos you will notice that George Floyd starts complaining of shortness of breath long before they put a knee on him, he was behaving extremely erratic, he was clearly very disoriented and nervous at the time he was handcuffed and obviously actively resisted arrest and entering the patrol car. Maybe the drugs didn't kill him directly, but they definitely made a big difference. Possibly if he hadn't been drugged, he would be alive.

[@kantitsamystery6328]

That's good analysis. As an ex-heroin user I've had my share of Fentanyl. I've also known many other addicts and users, and I've seen my share of overdoses. No one overdoses an half an hour to hour after they've used the drug. Why? Because at the point someone is using such hard drugs, they're injecting or smoking the drugs. That's the quickest way to get high. So when overdoses happen, they occur moments after using. And in the case of intravenous use, overdoses occur immediately. Not am hour after use. Obviously that's not good enough for a court room, but for anyone who's ever been through that kind of addiction, it's common knowledge from personal experience.

[@kantitsamystery6328]

@Smooth Cream Please. He took more drugs? Anything you can invent to slander a black man's death. It's pathetic. No matter what he took, you wouldn't have the metabolites for the drugs, he'd have the raw drugs in his system. So your little invention makes no sense based on the dirty cops own toxicology report

[@Efficienado]

@Smooth Cream geez. What kind of person has that little respect for the dead

[@Kaanfight]

tbh if you get a medical expert to vouch for this, it probably is good enough for a court room

[@mommyharris1111]

Unless he was using multiple patches??

[@Efficienado]

​@Smooth Cream Ok wow, there's a lot to unpack here. Idk to which friends you are referring to I guess "The commies?" I haven't even expressed my opinions to you so I guess you are just making generalizations about all communists. Communism is not deadly inherently it is just the way that it is usually put into practice that is unfavorable. Communism is about eliminating the wealth gap which I think the majority of intellectual individuals would agree is a good thing. I changed my KZbin name to Communist Cuber originally for the meme and the cuber part is because I solve Rubik's Cubes. I was somewhat in the same boat you are now knowing virtually nothing about true communism (albeit I at least had some level of intellect higher than that of a rat and of course I wasn't a raging racist) just thinking communism bad and capitalism good because there haven't been that many communism success stories while virtually the entire rest of the world was capitalist and was doing great. Earlier this year my sister started to talk about defunding the police, eating the rich, and some other very left-wing views. I thought to myself; what a libtard right? The police protect us and we need them to keep America safe right? Well, it is a completely different story for black people. Now I won't waste your time with some long testimonial about racism in America as I'm sure you have heard a few before and likely dismissed them as black people overstating what happened or just the black person being completely at fault or some BS like that but I would encourage you to take a closer look. While I do believe that Lenin, Mao, and even Karl were racist to varying degrees, I also believe that you can pick apart a person and take the good parts, and appreciate them and take the bad parts and admit that they are not perfect. Like take for example George Floyd here. He had a pretty evident criminal past where he supposedly held a pregnant woman at gunpoint but he had been rehabilitated fully by the time of his passing. He was loved by everyone in his community and was generally considered to be a great guy. Now you can debate me all day about his "sketchy cause of death" but that's not what I'm here to talk about. Back to communism. Karl Marx wrote some great work about communism that I support. I do not, however, condone his racism. It's kind of like how I love some of Hitler's artwork but I still can think that what he did was utterly despicable. While I am a fan of communism in theory, I believe that humans are inherently bad and so it would take a lot to get it to work in practice. I am however a fan of Market Socialism. Sorry that was so long and I hope you made it to the end. If you did and you would like to leave a reply please make sure to avoid the logical fallacies, ad hominem attacks, and complete generalizations that you so confidently used in your last reply. Have a good day. ;)

[@dementedtree5848]

You deserve every bit of respect you're about to get

[@RobizGaming2024]

Why ?

[@contemporarymale]

@@RobizGaming2024 Because he is confirming their bias with faulty science.

[@hemprope4326]

@@contemporarymale What?

[@-butterfly-594]

@@contemporarymale "faulty science" And I presume you're a doctor with years of training, experience, and research into diagnosing patients? Look dude, he's not making any of this shit up, and it's clear if you watch his other vids that he's certainly qualified to analyze this.

[@xbear7473]

I wonder if he wears pants while filming I mean i wouldn’t

[@James-ii2ff]

You act like not wearing pants gives you superpowers

[@James-ii2ff]

It does nothing

[@space6707]

Na fam it's just comfortable

[@lonelysquare9565]

@@James-ii2ff nah it gives me a confidence boost because everyone stares downwards

[@Z1NXZIZ]

James it’s a joke not a dick don’t take it so hard

[@guiwynn]

Doctor I present my thesis. - "He's not unconscious, he's alert and oriented"... Doctor, it was a SPEEDball. The uppers keep you awake to enjoy the high or as some have claimed "keep me awake but relaxed." Of course he wasn't unconscious/nodding off. But he was complaining of not being able to breathe, and saying he was going to die before they even took him back out of the car. You can see this on bodycam. It was at this point that his reduced intake of oxygen from the fentanyl's effects began causing air hunger. His O2 saturation was lowered over time from reduced tidal volume or respirations, a known direct effect of fentanyl and other opioids, respiratory depression as you said. He was also a smoker of multiple drugs which can cause lung damage and affect the ability of the alveoli to transfer the oxygen and CO2. While he was being put in the squad car he complained of being unable to breathe and was choking. The stress of the situation had elevated his need for oxygen, as you said and he was acting highly distressed/hysterical and possibly hyperventilating because "I have claustrophobia". He asked to be pulled from the vehicle. They obliged at some point. His blood oxygen saturation continued to degrade as he continued to fail to breathe properly, which leads to cardiac arrest, as you said. Once the oxygen level in his blood was no longer enough to feed his heart he went into the cardiac arrest. I'll not speak to what the officers did, but just laying on his stomach a man of that size would have reduced respiratory function from the weight and position of the body and the lungs. Not much but enough that a man already starving for oxygen would feel it. On top of all of that fentanyl itself is known to have a higher lethality when mixed with other drugs. "Blood concentrations of approximately 7ng/ml or greater have been associated with fatalities where poly-substance use was involved" and his was 46% higher at 11ng/ml. On top of that he had metabolites in his system, which means that level was even higher prior to that point. He had 5 drugs in his system. Let's set aside the nicotine and caffeine (both somewhat mild stimulants when compared to hard drugs, even caffeine can still kill you), he still had marijuana, meth, and fentanyl in his system, a poly-substance situation. My conclusion - He was already suffocating to death due to a combination of drug overdose and physical health deterioration, laying down aggravated it, the cops pinning him aggravated it, but he was already dead without immediate medical assistance. I just wish the camera angle of them pinning him could have been better for seeing where their weight was placed. Source - combat medic trained in pain killer pharmacology who grew up in a rough city and decided to do a little digging after watching this. ETA: apologies, ng/dl changed to ng/ml, the correct measurement, caught it after reviewing it a third time 😖

[@ClyDIley]

I may not be a doctor, but I am a scientist who knows fallacious reasoning when I see it, and just for the record.... at least this ☝ line of rationale doest blatently contradict itself multiple times, as well as grossly misrepresent what behaviors were or were not see out of Floyd over the final 20 minutes of the incident, where Floyd clearly started to show signs of experiencing respiratory distress, exactly as described in this video. So how an educated person can go so far towards siding with one hypothesized cause of death over another in this scenario is just patently absurd. How anyone can say either way beyond a reasonable doubt is mind blowing. If the case that Floyd overdosed doesn't count as a reasonable doubt, what does? If only Floyd hadn't been uncooperative and resisting arrest for half an hour before the officers finally decided to throw him in the back of the wagon, which of course, he resisted all the way there, then maybe they would have been more inclined to listen to his pleas, which went from what seemingly looked like nothing more than the classic "dont take me back to jail" temper tantrum syndrome, to the "I can't breath!" wooden chest like symptoms. Well maybe not wooden chest, but in hind site he was clearly experiencing worsening respiratory failure for 10-15 minutes before they pulled him back out of the car (where he kicked and resisted some more) and ended up getting taken to the ground. But see, thats the thing about this incident. He was kicking and resisting the entire way to his death bed, which perfectly excuses the delay from the officers connecting the dots. He'd been resisting the entire time and they didn't know he'd just swallowed 2 more mg of fentanyl before getting cuffed. Biggest mistake made by the responding officers was being overly cooperative for the 30 or so minutes they had been on the scene, before finally deciding to put Floyd under arrest, when they should have taken him to the ground as soon as they'd shown up on the scene and noticed he was intoxicated and their perp. But nope, they tried to be buddy buddy and hear him out. Despite being clearly intoxicated in public, while behind the wheel of a vehicle. Not to mention he'd been fingered for throwing a fit after having a fordged check refused in the gas station they were camped out in front of in presumably Floyds vehicle. And another big mistake was pulling him back out of the wagon

[@guiwynn]

I would also like to add that the average medical dose for fentanyl for anesthesia according to a Google search is 10-20ng/ml of blood. His, AFTER time had elapsed, was 11ng/ml. (Ng - Nanograms of fentanyl per ml - milliliter of blood.)

[@michalmam3064]

This must be your most disliked video of all time, I'm glad you did it though.

[@marioreds7826]

Because sadly, to some people even scientific facts are a matter of opinion.

[@juaquiqui-kun4333]

Doesn’t he have 73k likes?

[@mr16325]

@@marioreds7826 like pro abortion people I see all the time

[@M3rk420]

People on twitter would cry and say you are racist because you said one small negative thing about George

[@LavaCreeperPeople]

@@M3rk420 twitter sucks sooo bad. they dont even know what thinking means. it's so cringe it's better to just leave it like pewds did if you dont wanna lose brain cells

[@dbuck5350]

Now that the police body camera videos are leaked and on KZbin, you should watch it, and give your thoughts.

[@movingmolehills5292]

A court ORDERED the RELEASE of body camera videos to the public. You really think it should be called a "leak" instead of a mandatory disclosure?

[@movingmolehills5292]

@War X Withholding evidence to stir up unrest... could that be.. illegal? I'm with you man, sure sounds like it! I try to live my life in a way that's blissfully ignorant of the riots and intimidation by mobs, but it's not working.

[@patrickclark3337]

@War X seems counterintuitive, it's led to the dismantling of the police department. But I suppose if you're into conspiracy theories it's a possibility.

[@patrickclark3337]

@@movingmolehills5292 It finally shows what sane and rational people knew all along, that he was resisting and that led to the actions that caused his death. People only want to believe what the race baiting mainstream media disseminate instead digging into it. The media only released the one video of the incident, the one that only shows the cop on his neck. It goes against their narrative that police are implicitly biased against minorities and kill innocent black people with impunity if they showed the other videos from different aspects that show him resisting. Obviously he shouldn't have been killed but his actions led directly to his encounter with police and ultimately his death.

[@movingmolehills5292]

@@patrickclark3337 The video actually shows the suspect saying "I'm gonna die" and "I can't breathe" in order to avoid simply getting into the squad car, and THAT happened well before he subsequently forced his way out of the car, and pleaded to be let onto the ground. Pause for a moment, and truly Let That Sink In. Before getting his wish to be on the ground, the man was Telling the police officers (and us) that he actually felt like He Was Going To DIE. And by getting to go on the ground, what exactly could have been his game plan? It's not like he was going to wait there for more police to arrive and carry him on their backs to the precinct! No, he clearly didn't have an actual game plan, because for him the game was over. He was DYING. That's why in the video you can literally hear him on the ground calling out to his Mother! I mean seriously, who does that sort of thing except a seriously disturbed man, or one who can literally sense he's actually on his death bed. It's completely RIDICULOUS to even imply that "he shouldn't have been killed" because OBVIOUSLY he wasn't -- unless you meant to say, no matter what the police did or didn't do, only the suspects own actions caused his death.

[@keahliejeancruz]

thank you for making this unbiased and easy to understand. and a very big thank you for not including the videos/images of george being kneeled on. this was really respectfully done and i appreciate the time you took for this.

[@missmandy67]

Many things in medicine share the same characteristics. Radiology reports will often state to look to Patient for determination. Thank you Dr for making things easy to understand. Much appreciated

[@louisg7147]

You also listen to your patient, George Floyd said he couldn't breath before he was on the ground, also witnesses state he passed out in his car before. Quite important details he is not considering here. In reality the cause of death is not as clear cut as it seems, but in the end what Chauvin did is not correct either way.

[@cellgrrl]

Treat the patient, not the chart.

[@kingjoe4967]

Imagine if they use this video in court that would be crazy 😨

[@NoobMaster-rg5ho]

it would have no effect or difference

[@withlove-emi]

The medical examiners who conducted autopsies will testify in court.

[@r3pn1xc26]

I know it's a joke but that would be a terrible Idea, and the doctors can explain this them self pretty easly.

[@metallitech]

He made mistakes and is not qualified.

[@nerocladius4319]

@@sncy5303 it could be considered an accident, i am not sure how they train police in USA but the method of subduing criminals looked specific and may be the one to blame Not the officers themselves, then again i'm not racists and i dont mean to justify the officer's actions they should definitely not subdue a man like that and systemic racism should be ended, just looking at it from a different perspective

[@BlAcKSaDooo]

You should add that before he kneeled down on his kneck George Floyd already said "I cant breathe" when they were about to put him into the police car.

[@grtxyz4358]

Even more reason not to block his neck...

[@PandaMan02]

@@grtxyz4358 even more reason to ignore him saying he can't breathe.

[@catballsefv34]

Remember this vid was made in June. The new evidence was found in August. He also put in the video that there might be additional information. This is the additional information that can be brought up which supports why he died.

[@squashedkebab6927]

@MakeMinecraftGreatAgain You can also clearly see one of them put all his weight on George's chest.

[@squashedkebab6927]

@MakeMinecraftGreatAgain curious

[@meercat1880]

i love how he can so easily explain such a complex subject while still not taking an obvious side. Its genuinely amazing

[@movingmolehills5292]

It's genuinely amazing anyone could believe what you said about him "not taking an obvious side," when he OBVIOUSLY did!

[@Two-zj3rd]

@@movingmolehills5292 and which side is that?

[@movingmolehills5292]

@@Two-zj3rd The "side" which Wants people to BELIEVE the suspect was killed, even though actual facts which we can all easily observe clearly show us that he WASN'T!

[@boomboomskidskid]

@@movingmolehills5292 how much medical training do you have?

[@movingmolehills5292]

@@boomboomskidskid There's unmistakable video evidence of the suspect, during police questioning, deftly removing a bag of white powder from his pants pocket -- and dropping it to the ground. Having been previously arrested in 2019 (also in relation to an OD), the suspect very clearly didn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison. So, understandably he was actively hiding evidence of illegal drug possession. You also don't need a medical degree to understand why, as the cops were coming to check on him, he'd swallow some of his supply. Obviously the cops were onto this too, when they questioned him about why he was foaming at the mouth, and he admitted to it. Evidently, "medical training" doesn't have much nor really anything to do with actual facts of the matter which clearly tell the whole story. The suspect died from complications relating to a drug overdose.

[@zzodysseuszz]

0:21 no he didn’t, by this point you are being nothing more than intellectually dishonest.

[@DaisyMaeMoses]

Thank you!

[@tresorm8557]

As a medical student and former toxicologist, I have always loved your story telling style of medicine. Thank you, for using your platform to advocate for reform. It is obvious that many people are looking for excuses to explain what went down that day and this video is another example of the systematic inequalities that exist in our society

[@chewysuarez8483]

What do you do now

[@AesculapiusPiranha]

The inequality is if Floyd had been white this would have just been a Florida Man story everyone forgot about a day later. Wandering around antagonizing stores while high out of his mind on meth and spreading coronavirus? Holy shit.

[@AS-bb7ey]

AesculapiusPiranha antagonising? It was just a counterfeit bill - he probably didn’t even know that’s what it was. And he was a symptomatic for coronavirus so how was he to know that he had it? Governments have not been mass testing as they’ve only tested people who show symptoms. Yes he was on drugs, however that doesn’t justify what was done to him.

[@AesculapiusPiranha]

@@AS-bb7ey Again, if this happened to a white guy it would be a Florida Man story. He was wacked out on meth to the point the disturbance complaint noted thay he was "drunk" and not in control of himself. Clearly he was causing a disturbance, all while being a carrier of the deadly virus showing complete disregard for the lives of anyone including his own. Also, you don't know how symptomatic he was nor did he I'm sure. That is the thing with tweakers, they are not rational, nor can a rational person listen to the things they say and take them at face value. If he were white, nobody would feel sorry for him.

[@SevScout]

I'd like to know what the effects of adrenaline would be in conjunction to all those other drugs in his system. As a former toxicologist, you should know how adrenaline affects state of consciousness even under the influence! I bet you didn't miss this like Dr. Bernard here, or did you?

[@haris525]

When people can’t differentiate between mean, median or mode we know that the school system has failed us 🥺

[@rundylaw6212]

To be honest, almost 5 years after high school and I've totally forgot what mode is. Had to look it up

[@chrisbrent7487]

There is so much more than that that tells me the school system is failing us.

[@bonkmaykr]

America bad

[@chrisbrent7487]

Generally almost every Chubbyemu video has prime examples of it. Either schools have failed us or people are just getting stupider. A century or so ago if you were that kind of stupid nature had its ways of ensuring your idiot genes weren't passed on.

[@Kryptnyt]

Defund the school system

[@RandomChristianMusings]

If George was used to taking Fentanyl, and had developed a tolerance, would a "fatal level" of 11 ng/mL, like in the toxicology report graphic, NOT be fatal to George? As opposed to an opiate naive person?

[@jadecrosley4420]

This is very true! I said this in another post, but I'm currently 7 months clean from fentanyl and heroin. If I was to use the same amount I was using 7 months ago I would be dead. But back then I wasn't getting high from it, I was using it to avoid withdrawal. You can tell if someone is high on opiates. They're basically living zombies. But Floyd was responsive and communicating just fine.

[@norgepalm7315]

@@jadecrosley4420 were you there?

[@frostassassin7265]

Absolutely, which is something that will be difficult to account for, but Chubbyemu's description makes this sound like one of the most cogent explanations for him being largely okay at that dose.

[@jerryborjon]

R P - Did you see the video? Or is it impossible to get factual info from a video?

[@norgepalm7315]

@@jerryborjon what you're asking me is wholly irrelevant to what I asked.

[@JMAN97712]

Bro had a whole lot of chemicals in his body. He was already in bad health. The police just made it worse.

[@weebchina9639]

I probably learned more about drugs than I would ever learn in my life..

[@awilli182]

Or in D.A.R.E. 😂😂😂😂

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

For real! I learned that fat people shouldn't use fentanyl.

[@PinataOblongata]

I learned that Simpsons predicted goofballs being a thing.

[@johng8967]

So a new video leaked out that Floyd had complaining about not breathing before they had him on the ground.

[@Zones33]

Because he was high as a goddamn kite. /pol/ was right again

[@sfmc98]

That's what's so interesting about this. Chubbyemu approached this with a theory that didn't include a key fact, because he couldn't have known about it. But in his effort to show that the compression was the cause, he ended up proving the opposite. George was already dying before the cops even got to him.

[@MT-yd3yc]

@@sfmc98 then why did he include "he turned purple" but couldn't have known about that?

[@sfmc98]

@@MT-yd3yc Chubbyemu said "he turned purple?" I didn't see that, nor have I ever heard he turned purple.

[@redsxfenway]

Panic attack

[@asdaisy7759]

According to video he was screaming I can’t breath way before he was on the ground. The officers tried to force him into police car and kept saying in response to him saying I can’t breath by promising to roll down the windows.

[@Eviltower101]

Also claiming claustrophobia

[@headkicked]

@abc zyx ChubbyEmu just might make an update video about this. But then again, I could be completely wrong. He's usually not one to shy away from evidence.

[@nevermoreexoblivione6597]

Ever had a panic attack? Hyperventilation feels like suffocation.

[@ceasingend]

He was a criminal that didnt want to go to jail for breaking the law. Dude was an addict a criminal and resisted arrest to the point that his drug induced hostility is the DIRECT result of his death. Had he NOT broken the law had he NOT resisted had he NOT been a stereotypical person living in 2020 thinking they can just do whatever the fuck they want without repercussions is the direct result of his death. Cops putting a knee on his back wasn't the ONLY/MAIN reason he died. He himself absofuckinglutely played the biggest part of his own death. I am not condoning the cops actions YET they had to do what they had to do....too many times people like George floyd (regardless of fucking color) do shit and blame the police when they get whats coming. To call this RACISM is FUCKING DUMB because it had absolutely nothing to do with his race it was entirely his eradic behavior. Here is a tip STOP FUCKING RESISTING ARREST and fight back IN COURT because thats what court is for. There is absolutely 0 doubt whatsoever that he would still be alive had he been a fucking man and not a little bitch. If he were my brother or father I would be upset he was dead BUT the cops wouldnt get a single bit of blame from me because THIS WAS 99.99% his own doing. Hate what I say all you want at the end of the day what I said is 100% fact and there is absofuckinglutely 0 possible rebuttal to my statement....well unless youre some idiot liberal/democrat which just enjoys shit like this and in that case I hope you get yours too.

[@jaset362]

@@Eviltower101 It's Interesting that he was comfortable sitting in his own car with windows closed. He began all his screaming as soon as Police was forcing him out of his car.All of sudden he became claustrophobic. This criminal Floyd was simply looking for any excuse to avoid arresting.

[@TylerG60]

Floyd was saying I can't breathe while he was standing up outside of the police car. He requested they lay him down on the ground so they did. Even with the knee on his neck there is video evidence of him twisting his head from left to right on multiple occurrences. If he is moving his head then he has room to breathe. He had enough fentanyl and meth in his system to kill an elephant. His dealer was in the car with him. If anyone is responsible for his death other than himself it would be his dealer. Everyone of these officers were wrongly accused because we now let the mob rule. Really sad day in America. George was a career criminal and the world is a better place without him. Just ask the pregnant woman he held at gunpoint during a robbery.

[@misskelly9184]

Lol you’re pressed and making up shit.

[@NotBroihon]

Lmao this is probably one of the dumbest takes in this whole comment section. Stop watching Steven Crowder and you might return to reality.

[@toughntiny]

Miss Kelly go look up the public records

[@iakona23]

Tyler you are exactly correct. The truth is not politically popular.

[@jonathancooper5104]

You have to really go out of your way to find the video evidence of floyd saying he can't breathe while standing. Not sure why google or whoever doesn't want you to see it but it's there and it would change everyone's perspective of the incident if it was common knowledge.

[@Mia-ep4zu]

Thank you so much for taking time to explain this!

[@tubeyoukonto]

Can we just quickly talk about the argument of him being intoxicated or a criminal? In short: I couldn't care less. He could be Jeffrey Dahmer for all I care. Point is, the police officer used his authority to exert lethal force without it being warranted. The guy was on the ground, cuffed, two police officers holding down his body and his legs. He was no threat. Yet he was publicly executed for an alleged crime without a trail or any other form of legal representation. THAT'S the crime. That's murder. No matter if he was black, white, asian, native, middle eastern, a criminal, another cop, an adult, a kid, sober, intoxicated, tall, short, big, small, light, heavy, american, non-american, christian, muslim, atheist, buddhist, jewish, hindu or anything else. None of these points people always love to bring up to support their claims is in any way a factor here. He was publicly executed by a police officer in a slow and painful way. End of story.

[@TheRandomYoYo]

I mean if you solve for unchecked police violence you also solve for some of the racisim, which you can then priceed to solve separately. The other way around doesn t work so well. Policemen could start homiciding whites asians and mexicans in two weeks and that would solve for racism. But worsen police vuolence.

[@tubeyoukonto]

@@TheRandomYoYo exactly. Also, trying to make this primarily a race issue gives way for too many distractions. For one, as we have seen, the whole "he is a criminal" narrative is there. If you only focus in the deed and not the victim, then that is gone. Same goes for, for example, the race of the police officer. Would this have been ok if he was black. No. So thats out the window too. People today are fucking goldfish when it comes to these issues. This whole thing went from police brutality, to racism, to people wanting to make him a saint, to people saying he is a criminal, to people talking about how hard police work is, to rioting and looting, to people condemning looting, to the police playing the victim card with the whole shake shack situation. All of these things are just distractions. America has a problem with police violence. Fix it. Stop getting distracted. Dont defund them. They need funding. Regulate the funding. Make them train better and more that just how to use their weapon but also how to deescalate and the long term benefits from deescalation and the trust in the police force. Hold brutal cops accountable. Dont let the police department pay, let people sue the cops directly. Why in the flying fuck would tax payers, including the families of the victims, pay for these assholes? Let THEM foot the bill! There are many ways to make it better, but this endless bickering is not one of them.

[@BodyMusicification]

@@tubeyoukonto 💯 We need police reform and to expand on ideas like yours.

[@gmapatty]

He is Giving Evidence that Even tho Mr. Floyd was under the influence of these drugs, He In No Way Acted Like He Was! Which Will Be Thrown Up In Court That It Was In His System, And That's Why He Died! He Is Saying They Had No Right To All 3 Be On The Top of Him! That is what took his breath away, he couldn't breath air back into his chest and died! 😢❣️ RIP 🙏🏻

[@gmapatty]

@@tubeyoukonto Wow, I Totally Agree!!! Thank You! Amen! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@Reth_Hard]

I think Chubbyemu missed something important about Fentanil... When you use it regularly, you build up a tolerance very quickly, so the effect of it is substantially reduced. A few years ago, I was shooting opioids every day and I got to the point where a dose that would kill anybody, bu for me it was just barely enough for me to feel normal and not being sick from withdrawal... (BTW... I thank god, I did quit doing this stuff.)

[@J_MaeJor]

Reth Tard congrats on your recovery! I’m very proud of you!!!

[@HappywaitSadnoBoth]

I believe he may have overlooked it because of how extremely common it is. I have asthma, and when I was younger it was extremely chronic, to a point I needed my inhaler four or five times a day. One day I had an asthma attack, and because my body was so use to my inhaler and other medicines, I had to hope for the best as my parents rushed me to the hospital. They had me on steroids for a month afterwards, and a stronger dose of a pill. It just happens to common things: medicine, exercise routines, alcohol. So it becomes easier to overlook. Also, I am proud of your recovery. Many are not as strong as you.

[@gxtmfa]

Congratulations on the recovery!

[@jadecrosley4420]

Very true! I'm currently 7 months clean from fentanyl and tar. If I was to use the same amount I was using 7 months ago, I'm almost positive I would die within half an hour. Congrats on your sobriety btw. Keep up the good work!

[@inseut]

Congratulations on the recovery!! You're strong af ❤️

[@pixelchu]

Feels pretty surreal watching this. Thank you for making this though.

[@zacht9447]

So basically It was the strangulation that killed him and the drugs in his body increased the risk that this would be fatal

[@someoneidk308]

Increased the risk- but likely didn't play a large role. He is responsive, alert, and conscious before the video, so a drug overdose or any other drug-related causes of death can be ruled out. If the drugs did play a role, it'd likely be small. Even the heart disease wouldn't have played too big of a role- complications happen over years, not minutes. If he wasn't having trouble before, there's no reason to believe his condition increased the risk of this interaction being fatal. Had he been able to continue home, he would have lived. One thing that wasn't noted in this video was also that the officer stayed on his neck even after he stopped responding. It's obvious that his airflow was limited. The second autopsy report states that the specific cause of death is asphyxia- Defined by the Marriam-Webster dictionary as "A lack of oxygen or excess of carbon dioxide in the body that is usually caused by interruption of breathing and that causes unconsciousness." Medically, it only takes around 5-7 minutes for an individual to die from asphyxia. Him being unresponsive "for several minutes" (keep in mind, the officer still has his knee against his neck) lines up nicely with the amount of time it takes for an individual to lose consciousness due to asphyxia. Some news sources also state that the person who did one of the autopsies said that he was dead before the ambulance arrived, though I'm unsure if that's sensationalized. Another thing that wasn't explicitly stated (or if it was, I didn't hear it) was that Floyd wasn't responsive in that hour-long stay in the ER. CPR was done the entire time. If they stopped sooner, then he would have been declared dead sooner. So yes, you're right. But it's very important to note that drugs didn't play nearly as much of a role as being cut off from oxygen for 8 minutes. The asphyxiation is what killed him, and he likely would have died even without the drugs in his system.

[@fakelars]

Lauren great response!!!!!!

[@zacht9447]

@@someoneidk308 you do realize that he could have been having some difficulty breathing and still be all there right. The drug is known for making it more difficult for you to breathe and potentially fatally stopping lung function, what I am saying is that the drugs in his system made him more susceptible to dying due to this stimulus than if he was clean. Also I should say he is not having oxygen completely cut off, he can still talk and plead with the officers, so the combination of increased resistance to breathing due to the weight put on him, and the agitated state, could have triggered a more deadly response to the drugs in his system than if he would have been left alone. The drugs weren't the cause of death, but they did have an effect on the pulmonary arrest that isn't insignificant. Doesn't absolve the officers, just anti drug use

[@SevScout]

@@someoneidk308 How about adrenaline? All your smorts, all your patting yourself on the back for knowing and agreeing with everything the video creator said, while even the supposed doctor himself is just quietly glossing over the most natural of all stimulants, which could have had a HUUUGE impact on the whole situation! You rule out drug overdose, without factoring in adrenaline due to a fight or flight response, triggered by his past conflict with the law. That is incredibly narrow-minded.

[@JonathanZeidman]

@@SevScout Your flat-earth friends want you to get back to your D&D game.