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@laszlototh113411 жыл бұрын
"He hit me so hard I didnt even feel it"....DAMN!!
@1980Triumph9 жыл бұрын
The Foreman/Lyle fight is easily my favorite boxing match of all time, just two guys knocking each other out....I love it.
@aladdinaldilawi70989 жыл бұрын
i loved that fight too :)
@joeyspinoza46368 жыл бұрын
+1980Triumph It was pretty brutal. Foreman showed an almost superhuman ability to absorb punches and get back up.
@1980Triumph8 жыл бұрын
@113941259136275076947 he was rocked which makes his comeback in the fight even more epic, they both kept rocking each other which was insane.
@joeyspinoza46368 жыл бұрын
1980Triumph Ron Lyle who rocked Foreman, Lyle put Bugner in the hospital for awhile, he almost killed Bugner with the internal damage done. They had to put him in a freeztank and stop all the internal bleeding. Lyle hit Foreman hard, but, he kept rising.
@1980Triumph8 жыл бұрын
joey spinoza I didn't know that info about Lyle and Bugner. I have to look for that match.
@bullmeatt12 жыл бұрын
RIP Ron Lyle. Great boxer with an interesting background story.
@21LAZgoo3 жыл бұрын
that man was a TANK
@vantheman12346 жыл бұрын
Ron Lyle was the only boxer never to let George walk him down. Lyle stood toe to toe with George and traded. Didn’t dance around or take a backward step.
@kryptonianstrength84615 жыл бұрын
Sonny Liston..
@cmoneytheman4 жыл бұрын
u forgot ali and holy
@cmoneytheman3 жыл бұрын
@21LAzgoo we yea I know
@cmoneytheman3 жыл бұрын
@21LAzgoo we u trolling or drunk
@cmoneytheman3 жыл бұрын
@21LAzgoo we huh?
@carlosblanco29553 жыл бұрын
George Foreman: *only certain guys can hit you so hard it doesn't hurt, Ron Lyle was one of em* Also George Foreman: *no one else did*
@danc36933 жыл бұрын
Thanks for repeating what I just heard Foreman say in the video.
@karimhussein3610 Жыл бұрын
@@danc3693 He's just pointing out the contradiction.
@Stimor Жыл бұрын
he has listed other guys before
@malikthebrit3353 ай бұрын
no one else except lyle is what he meant
@dennisreyes64073 жыл бұрын
The 70's was definitely the most competitive time in Heavy weight boxing history. Any of the top 5 Heavyweights of that time could have been Heavy Weight champion in any era.
@fiucik14 жыл бұрын
I just love when pretty much the hardest hitter tells who hit him hardest :D
@vantheman12384 жыл бұрын
George Foreman is a once in a lifetime fighter. He got hit by the most dangerous men in the 60’s, 70,s, 80’s(comeback fight in 1987), and 90’s. To think he started fighting as a pro in 1969, where he had 13 pro fights that year. His last fight in 1997 was 28 years after his first in ‘69. That is phenomenal. It’s ridiculous. George Foreman is so strong and his punch resistance is incredible because he does not seem to have been affected. There is an argument to place George Foreman at number 3 in the all-time heavyweight boxer list behind Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali. George Foreman true legend of boxing.
@GoldenGateNum9 Жыл бұрын
Ron Lyle was underrated, he even wanted to come out of retirement to fight Tyson in his prime, tough & brutal fighter.
@ethancntower88507 жыл бұрын
lyle gave him a taste of his own medicine and george gave it right back. that was one ugly slugfest
@AvioftheSand4 жыл бұрын
Fight of that year
@21LAZgoo2 жыл бұрын
@@AvioftheSand no man fight of all time
@JackSuperMoto9112 жыл бұрын
Gotta love foreman....
@mrtaurus761 Жыл бұрын
This has got to be the funniest description I've ever heard 😂 🤣 💀
@cappy2282 Жыл бұрын
There are few athletes i respect more than Big George. He was great fighter and special human being 🙏
@ayresy8912 жыл бұрын
the foreman vs lile is one of the top 5 greatest 20th century fights!
@benburleigh63793 жыл бұрын
Two absolute monsters ... IN THE RING!!
@joemacinnis19723 жыл бұрын
Big George is my favorite fighter ever! His power was other worldly
@cmoneytheman3 жыл бұрын
fav fighter why he was sloopy and slow
@butcher654 Жыл бұрын
@@cmoneythemanForeman is one of the all time best he had devastating power in him prime and still had good power on his comback
@cmoneytheman Жыл бұрын
@@butcher654 he was a better fighter when old so not a good compare
@butcher6546 ай бұрын
@@cmoneythemanhe was wiser but a few fights older george lost if he was prime he would knocked guys like morrison holyfield briggs all those guys would have been knocked out by a younger george
@ioanonissimo12 жыл бұрын
all heads bow down a true legend forget about the klitchko's
@brantbarker1812 жыл бұрын
True sportsman
@kevintrace5396 Жыл бұрын
Imagine big George around today he clean it all up
@EthnHayabusa5 жыл бұрын
That Lyle fight is amazing. Two beasts, just swinging for the fences. Any of those shots would have knocked Tyson through the floor.
@laxmichauhan98743 жыл бұрын
And y do u have to mention Tyson.
@talinalelea80062 жыл бұрын
And why do u care
@talinalelea80062 жыл бұрын
Tyson would get slept by ron lyle homie
@butcher654 Жыл бұрын
@@talinalelea8006 your 100% right Lyle hit much harder an had the better chin!
@aleksandrpondios12 жыл бұрын
@examinfo right!I know the fact Lennox and Larry are not so appreciated in USA ,but if we speak only about boxing ablities and about their career,they are easy dawn hands in my top 5
@shadows98798712 жыл бұрын
@strictlycomments I know how much hype surrounds older boxers and I also know that they are great for a reason. You are right about Foreman; it is because he isn't an accurate or sharp puncher: his punch has a large surface area of impact. Ernie Shavers KO power , to me, is amazing. I think he once pooped a glove punching.
@bandit749812 жыл бұрын
@michaelyouth It's called history. Going by the man's accomplishments and the innovations the man brought to the sport it's pretty safe to rank him at oe near the top 5 at least.
@thomaschristopherwhite90433 жыл бұрын
Man getting hit and have it hurt is one thing. But getting hit and it disables your entire nervous system that's a whole other world of crazy. I think the next thing above that is getting hit by a car.
@abd.tjuliano58295 жыл бұрын
Diamond jaw dude still talking normaly after years of taking head shots head on
@haitianmaniac7412 жыл бұрын
thats one man i dont ever want to get hit by
@talinalelea80062 жыл бұрын
He was different
@Lotus-Son12 жыл бұрын
@MrManOfIce I agree, Shavers actually asked on the phone with Foreman why he didn't want to fight Shavers and Foreman replied "because you hit too damn hard, Earnie" and hung up the phone. If George Foreman says he won't take the fight because someone punches too hard then Jesus Christ, that man must be able to sink the damn Titanic with that kind of power.
@chuckcollins234911 жыл бұрын
Foreman would have knocked Tyson out inside of 3.
@mutoprime66414 жыл бұрын
Which tyson
@fiucik14 жыл бұрын
@@mutoprime6641 Which Foreman? :P
@mutoprime66414 жыл бұрын
@@fiucik1 george foreman
@fiucik14 жыл бұрын
@@mutoprime6641 Oh really? My question was: young or old Foreman?...
@mutoprime66414 жыл бұрын
@@fiucik1 ohh sorry young foreman i think old foreman could but it would be very difficult. what's your opinion?
@nikolailic431 Жыл бұрын
Foreman and Shavers said that Ron Lyle hit them hardest, and Lyle, Ali, Norton, Holmes, Caldwell, Tillis said that Shavers hit them hardest. List of hardest punchers ever in my opinion: 1. Shavers 2. Foreman 3. Lyle 4. Liston 5. Cleveland Williams.
@veebee3927 Жыл бұрын
I think Lyle hits harder than Foreman and I think Gerry Cooney would hit harder than Williams.
@RandomLevitation12 жыл бұрын
@xXDeadlyEyeXx I don't think so. You can only counter to a certain degree, If Joe Louis lands a punch...you're knocked out no matter who you are, If Marciano or Dempsey landed a punch, you were out cold.
@ltfcmajor12 жыл бұрын
@strictlycomments Marciano didn't knock guys out with punches, it was with the follow up elbows after throwing hooks.
@eatthisvr612 жыл бұрын
@ayresy89 agreed it was definately a fight and not a boxing match though it was savage
@messier99110212 жыл бұрын
@knockup100 now its great is they throw for 6 innings, ball parks are also alot smaller now. old school pitchers considered it bad to have an era over 3.00. now a 4.00 is good.
@biggerflexible12 жыл бұрын
Yeah Shavers was known for having punching power that could do permanent damage.
@examinfo12 жыл бұрын
ALI-Holmes-Lewis-Johnson-Marciano top 5 HW in that order!
@yossarian22athome12 жыл бұрын
@RandomLevitation You mean 'They're' not 'Their', short for 'They are'.
@strictlycomments12 жыл бұрын
@shadows987987 Not trying to change ur opinion, but most of GF's ko victims got up over&over again b4 getting stopped. Not much film on Rocky, but his many 1 punch ko's that occurred in the order of Layne & Walcott are chronicled in the written versions of his fights. Look at the last 3 punches he hit Louis with on the ropes, as opposed to the 18 unanswered punches GF stopped Lyle with. Louis ko'ed many an opponent with a punch he turned on a dime, and mutual sparring partners claimed Dempsey
@undeadpresident11 жыл бұрын
could do without the ad in the end part
@Icruisbomb10 жыл бұрын
That would have been a good fight between you two though your skill level was much higher but a good punchers fight. I still have my picture of you with my boxing team when you came to Kansas University for the boxing symposium with Robert Rodriguez and George Kimball. Your son Big Wheel took the picture.
@shadows98798712 жыл бұрын
@strictlycomments We have to agree on one thing first: Foreman is one of the hardest punchers ever, second only to Ernie Shavers in my book. And yes I agree, he was better during his second run. He could finish a fight in one hit: so he was a great.
@nobbytang12 жыл бұрын
@MrRoyalFatness As well as Max Scmelling there was Marciano who KOd him plus others like Tony Galento who knocked him down so thats what I mean by suspect chin . Unlike the 70s when weight training and conditioning was understood and practised the 20s , 30s , 40s and 50s produced smaller fighters who were skilled but had long carears but inevitably had too many fights resulting in brain damage .
@hernje10 жыл бұрын
Ernie Shaver looked like he was on steroids before steroids ever existed.
@lmc33074 жыл бұрын
Course they existed
@knockup1003 жыл бұрын
@x33mmm yes atlethes from the DDR in the 60´s had lot of succes with it. One thing is they just started testing for it decades later in pro boxing
@dankemo31693 жыл бұрын
You do Steroids and forget athleticism and hitting hard. even talking about stamina is ridiculous.
@swedenoble60833 жыл бұрын
show one video or one still picture of Ernie shavers with any muscle Ernie shavers was never in shape he was not a muscular man and he was in horrible cardiovascular shape from the start of his career to the end of his career the only thing he could do was punch a horrible boxer horrible balance horrible feet kind of reminds me of the bird leg Wilder there's no pictures of Ernie shavers looking like he's on steroids now you take the great Adonis the Viking warrior blood tested over 227 times 68x32 laid by example not by some fake words 😎😁👊👍✌️💯💪
@morpher7282 жыл бұрын
@@dankemo3169 you dont think steroids make you more athletic and strong? Why do you think powerlifters and combat athletes take them?
@Onieracraft12 жыл бұрын
@yowyOw69 Foreman losing to Joe Louis?
@examinfo12 жыл бұрын
@MrAlcoholic94 i did put Joe lewis 3rd; sorry of you thought i met Lennox l
@im0rtel10 жыл бұрын
actually he is kinda right . after a impact the body goes in shock
@eatthisvr611 жыл бұрын
i took a kick at thai boxing that broke 2 of my ribs once. i most deffinately felt it lol
@knockup10012 жыл бұрын
@RandomLevitation Are you using some kind of timetravel, are you really saying that boxers back then at the stone age of boxing would beat boxers of today ? Fighting 7- 8 times a year doesnt make you better, it only gives you experience, And you exaggerates how many fights Ali had per year, only in 1961 Ali had more than 6 fights. And how good are those fighters he fought in 1961 ?. Wladimir Klitschko had 13 fights in his second year as pro boxer so...
@knockup1003 жыл бұрын
@slip satch and why was they better back then ? can you come up with any explanation ? In the sports where you can measure time its clear that athletes do improve. Boxing has gone through a lot of develoment (improvements) technical and tactical. There has also been a huge development in the science about diet and nutrition. If you fight 6 to 8 times a year there wont be much time for the build up before a fight and the boxers wont be fighting at thier best. Also where would the time be for healing your injuries. And speaking about experience, does that mean if I play more soccer matches than Lionel Messi i would be at wold class level ??. Experience is a necessity but you need a lot more than just that.
@examinfo12 жыл бұрын
@GranderValues I just rate my top 5 on what they did in their career. Tyson was tragic but if you look at his work, after he won the title. He fought Spinks(a puffed up light heavy), and a old Larry Homes. After that; he lost to Buster douglas by KO!,Lennox Lewis by KO, Holyfield by KO. and a host of bums like danny green. Even Ali at his worst never got smashed out like Tyson. Tyson will always be a "what if?" judging the facts; no way is he top 5.
@brittanygalloway1843 жыл бұрын
Wow.. Are you Still around???🤔
@examinfo3 жыл бұрын
@@brittanygalloway184 for sure
@brittanygalloway1843 жыл бұрын
@@examinfo oh ok lol.. the main reason why I ask, is because when I see Comments from years ago.. I WONDER if that Person still Exist.. this is the Second Reply I've gotten back from Someone who Posted a 9/10 Year-old Comment!
@talinalelea80062 жыл бұрын
Ron lyle is the hardest heavyweight hitter ever its true
@strictlycomments12 жыл бұрын
@shadows987987 Can't take a thing away from Shavers punching ability...
@MacHoodio12 жыл бұрын
@michaelyouth How did he keep ducking him? Sander's was effectively retired a year later. Hater's gonna hate. Klitschko has carried the heavyweight title well, he's not an ATG but top 15 imo for sure. Fighter's from the past are always made to seem better than they were, in 20 years im sure people will appreciate the Klitschko's more.
@JR-sn1pi8 жыл бұрын
Andre T Ali would have Klitschko for lunch.
@ethancntower88507 жыл бұрын
Jairo Rene Reyes ali never fought a guy 6'7"
@JR-sn1pi7 жыл бұрын
False. Ali fought 6'6 Earnie Terrell. Played with him all night.
@nepaliguy65376 жыл бұрын
lol that shut him up
@michaeltrumph1216 жыл бұрын
Terrel is a bum, he's not in the K brothers league.
@drepop8035 жыл бұрын
@@JR-sn1pi terrel fights nothing like wlad or vitali. Also Ernie doesn't hit hard.
@eatthisvr611 жыл бұрын
what about him?
@nobbytang12 жыл бұрын
@vladiator100 Louis opponents were not as big ( generally ) as the golden era 1970s heavyweights and Louis did have a suspect chin .
@knockup10012 жыл бұрын
@RandomLevitation cant read ?
@Onieracraft12 жыл бұрын
@vladiator100 Draining definitely doesn't explain that. A drained Foreman would easily Ko a 174 pound fighter, and would certainly never end up covering up while in a head to head brawl with one. That is literally unimaginable.
@polotrey2 жыл бұрын
No surprise he said Lyles.. he was jailhouse strong
@pranaychinta57133 жыл бұрын
Recently he said "Joe Louis" heaviest punchers ever And he didn't mention himself... But Lyle we can see him giving heavy
@protectorategeneral3 жыл бұрын
Bs
@RandomLevitation12 жыл бұрын
@xXDeadlyEyeXx Fighters like Mayweather who have the best counter defense in current boxing, couldn't beat past fighters. These boxers only fight like 2-3 times a year now, Ali used to fight like 7-8 times a year, Archie Moore and Sugar ray and willie pep all fighting over 200 fights in their lives and what not, it makes them tough, and tough is better than conditioned
@MasterFatness12 жыл бұрын
@Onieracraft Styles make fights. Conn was slick and perseverant. The point is that Joe got him down.
@knockup10012 жыл бұрын
@messier991102 Do you have eny other examples than Fraizer ?, Fraizer was a blown up light hevyweight, small fighters dont gas as easy as big fighters. And i also wonder how you know that fighters of the 70´s hit harder , im mystified. Ali and Fraizer also got fat later in their career. And Tyson well he was great against average fighters except against Buster Doughlas of course, in that fight Tysons incredible punching power didnt help him.
@Onieracraft12 жыл бұрын
@vladiator100 Uhh yeah, but Ali was not a 174 pound fighter. Also in order to make that statement you would have to conveniently and intentionally leave out WHERE Foreman was hitting Ali all night (on his body and on his arms) . Louis was clocking Conn in the face and he wasn't going down. Infact they got into head to head brawls. In one of them Conn made Louis cover up. Imagine a 174 pound fighter brawling head to head with Foreman and making him cover up. hahaha.
@shadows98798712 жыл бұрын
@strictlycomments You have a point. But I don't think Dempsey and Marciano punched anywhere close to him. But that is my opinion.
@Icruisbomb11 жыл бұрын
By every heavyweight boxers account they all say Erine Shavers was the hardest puncher.
@faissal89973 жыл бұрын
Yes, but he didn't fight Shavers. So he can't account for Shaver's punch.
@dalebecause24672 жыл бұрын
Ron Lyle knocked out Shavers in the 6th round back in 1975....
@vidalsmith91602 жыл бұрын
They asked Shavers who hit him the hardest and he also said Ron Lyle
@21LAZgoo2 жыл бұрын
how much did prime foreman weigh? i saw somewhere that he was 217 which i dont think he was especially at 6'4, i think he was like 230-250
@MrJoelouisbarrow12 жыл бұрын
@compaq89ful he has power but not more than joe louis this guys swings his arms
@TartarusPyro11 жыл бұрын
you are 100% right big george is the best but tyson with cus and rooney this was gonna be a diff story
@Kerbee10 жыл бұрын
Shavers put more weight behind his right hand than George. He punched "more correctly" than George. George threw mainly arm punches. He relied on his thick, big boned arms. Check them out in pictures.
@vlLEGTxSQUADX5 жыл бұрын
@Gopinath K they all threw body and shoulder punches itz juss foreman was sloppy
@RandomLevitation12 жыл бұрын
@knockup100 I said there's no way, a fighter of today, could beat the fighters of the past.
@colemcleod94111 жыл бұрын
Chuck mentions Quarry for good reason - he knocked out Ernie Shavers...beating him up in the process. Ali said Shavers was the hardest hitter he got hit by - and Quarry annilated Shavers, who was an excellent boxer. I could see Quarry doing the same to Foreman, who lost to boxers, not sluggers. And funny to hear Foreman saying nearly word for word what Larry Holmes said about getting hit by Tyson - that it doesn't hurt. "Just BOOM - and you're down, no pain at all. Tyson vs Lyle - I wish.
@Onieracraft12 жыл бұрын
@NyyGyro Joe Louis landed 12 rounds of punches on 174 pound Billy Conn and didn't knock him out. Took him 13 ROUNDS. Then he fought him again and it took 8 rounds. a 174 pound fighter! Oh and Louis definitely hit Conn, repeatedly. Conn wasn't alluding Louis for 12 whole rounds straight (and if he had, that would have made Louis insanely slow). Also, compare the percentage of Kos in 5 rounds or less or in the first round between these fighters..
@strictlycomments12 жыл бұрын
@LVSWTZ Started a response to you, but my pc crashed. I'm out-of-time now, but I'll respond with a civil debate later...
@nitelad11 жыл бұрын
I wonder what he'd say if he fought Tyson
@eatthisvr610 жыл бұрын
you do have a point but its not that clear cut. george did throw alot of arm punches true this was mainly because he could still fuck people up even though it was just an arms punch! he could throw properly too he was better in his 2nd career than the 1st
@knockup10012 жыл бұрын
@messier991102 Isnt it obvious ! Training has improved for all athletes, also Usain Bolt, sure he has talent, but training has also improved, thats why world records are broken every year. Just because hw american boxers arent dominating enymore doesnt mean the whole sport is in a decline. Plese stop living in the past. Boxing is well alive and today its a worldwide sport.
@vlLEGTxSQUADX5 жыл бұрын
It doesnt hurt cause of the adrenaline
@georgeforeman702110 жыл бұрын
Don't remember every boxer facing Ernie Shavers.
@kevindunn73626 жыл бұрын
He looks like redd Foxx
@messier99110212 жыл бұрын
@MrJoelouisbarrow foreman was more powerful but louis was more precise. foremans ko's came from pure power. louis ko's came from perfect punches
@LVSWTZ12 жыл бұрын
@strictlycomments Norton gave a fit Ali 212lbs vs 221lbs in the 1st fight Trouble in 2nd fight and 3rd Older KN gave a Young Holmes Hell 5 years after GF crushed him Frazier chose GF the 1st time thought it was a easy And was crushed in rematch when both were shot 18 amateur fights wins at 1968 Olympics Wins Undisputed Championship of the World from the Undefeated Frazier in 2rds 1994 regains the title 20 YEARS after loosing it He's All time great You know it your just looking to debate.
@messier99110212 жыл бұрын
youre missing frazier
@eatthisvr611 жыл бұрын
lol there ISNT anybody stronger than foreman shavers right cross was a harder punch but thats it nobody else hit like george or had his strength. lyle was a HUGE puncher and a huge guy too gerry cooney was a big puncher and a real big guy aswell
@Fightconnoisseur9612 жыл бұрын
@strictlycomments Shavers had nowhere near Foreman's chin though, a young Irishman by the name of Jerry Qyarry had an undefeated Shavers o0ut in 1 round.
@MasterFatness12 жыл бұрын
@nobbytang So you're KO'd once by a veteran boxer while you're still up-and-coming, and then you have a suspect chin? I'd like to know what a good chin is then.
@chickenmaster6611 жыл бұрын
tyson DID hurt holyfield on several occasions in round one of the first fight not even into a minute a wild right hook caught holyfield right in the temple he stumbled onto the ropes and clinched tyson and the rest of the fight was like that clinching headbutting and low blowing i mean you can search holyfield headbutts on youtube to see for your self as for mike jameson why do you think he lost nearly all his fights after tyson? he never fought the same dude had heart though
@messier99110212 жыл бұрын
@knockup100 im not talking about boxing in general just the heavyweights. and stamina wise it isnt close, the heaweights fight at a snails pace today and still gas in 5 rounds. ali and frazier fought at a middlweight pace and were still going strong in rond 15. like i said im not living in the past im fucking 16, but i love boxing, but cant stand the oversized sloppy modern heavyweights. old foreman is a perfect example of how badly boxing has declined, a champion at 45.
@knockup10012 жыл бұрын
@messier991102 well boxers of today have excellent stamina and you are simply wrong when you say boxers of today are slower or not as skilled as your heros from the past.And its just a minority who thinks todays boxing is a joke, its mostly americans who cant deal wih the fact that their boxers arent on top of the game enymore. Boxing is doing well, in germany every fight with the Klitschko´s are viewed on tv by millions and 40.000 to 60.000 comes to see them every time they fight
@strictlycomments12 жыл бұрын
@vladiator100 A panel of so-called boxing experts from "Ring Magazine" rated Louis as the #1 puncher of late, but another "Ring" panel rated Dempsey as #1 in 1960. Basically it's a subjective rating based on opinion. Still, I believe Louis did hit harder than George. Louis could turn a ko punch on a dime. He threw short punches that landed with far more authority. Watch "Joe Louis knockouts part one". Watch the shortness of punch and the impact in slowmo. Big difference!
@nobbytang12 жыл бұрын
@vladiator100 Beause the guys in the 20s & 30s didnt use weights , correct diet or conditioning , they didnt hit as quick or hard as now , or boxed @ such a intensity as now . And to compare max baer to todays big boys is a joke , Joe louis was skilled and @ Cruiser weight would of been similar to Holyfield but couldnt get bigger by weights as they were not used then . Larry Holmes Jab would of been dominant in any league table if we had a time machine ! ( my opinium ) - regards
@Onieracraft12 жыл бұрын
@NyyGyro He WAS a combo of the two, but he was much slower than Ali and had nowhere near Foreman's power.
@MrJack8312412 жыл бұрын
@ltfcmajor have you ever seen marciano's KO of Joe Walcott...you need to reevaluate your position...
@AnthonyJ746 жыл бұрын
WAR FEDOR!
@RandomLevitation12 жыл бұрын
@eatthisvr6 Nowadays they aren't poor fighters, obviously you gotta be good to be a professional, but I'll watch George Foreman vs. Muhammad Ali rerun 100x before I'll watch another Klitschko fight that's for sure hahah
@RandomLevitation12 жыл бұрын
Foreman was big and he hit hard, but Joe Louis...In those days fighters weren't as conditioned but they were a lot more tough. You think Amir Khan or Floyd Mayweather would be beating any 20's and 30's fighter? Fuck no. Those dudes were serious tough back that. That's why the body stature of Marciano compared to fighters today is different, yet Marciano was KOing people left and right, same with Louis.
@sk8forlife9011 жыл бұрын
LOL
@eatthisvr611 жыл бұрын
i didnt say it ali holyfield and i think ken norton said it tyson didnt hit anywehre near as hard as george hed be the 1st to admit that. his secret was speed not power
@strictlycomments12 жыл бұрын
@shadows987987 (Cont.) hit even harder than Louis! Sharkey made the same claim after fighting both; saying that Joe hit hard, but that Dempsey hit so hard that even an arm shot made you want to drop to the canvas and writhe in pain! Google; The Mike Casey Archives-The Cyber Boxing Zone and then scroll down until you find the following stories;"The Art Of The Big Punch:No Doubting Magnificent Marciano", and "Almost The Man: But Big George Is Not A Top 5 Heavyweight". I concur with Mr. Casey...
@eatthisvr612 жыл бұрын
@RandomLevitation theyr not poor fighters but theyr not great either
@strictlycomments12 жыл бұрын
@ioanonissimo Big George is one of my favs, but truthfully, after he got beat by Jimmy Young and retired, he was considered a flash in the pan. Everyone thought he was the greatest when he beat Frazier, but then Ali, Lyle, and Young proved he wasn't so great after all. His 2nd run was impressive due to his age when he recaptured the title from Moorer, but 20 yrs from now there will be young boxing revisionists who'll be between the ages of 25-30, who will think the klitchkos were the greatest!