George Groves Rewatches Froch vs Groves 1 | GGBC Watchalong Special

[@boxingnews__]

What did you think of the stoppage? 👇

[@runelillebuen6422]

terrible

[@TBATTIECYCLING]

Good stoppage Howard

[@angryboxingfan]

Wouldn’t say it was terrible or a good stoppage. Refs have to make a quick decision, George definitely could have gone on but equally may have been knocked out. Froch was coming on strong , so I wouldn’t say Groves was robbed.

[@GamesTribeNow]

Surely a standing eight count would have been better...

[@angryboxingfan]

@@GamesTribeNow a standing 8 count has been a rule for years. Only happens if the ropes keep a fighter up. I ref can’t stop the action to issue a count.

[@Milkydrummer]

You can see the pain in George’s face at the end watching that. Unbelievable. Should’ve been the most incredible night of his life. So sad.

[@JonnyProsser]

That stoppage is even worse than I remember it!! Absolutely shocking stoppage 🤯😫 Great content lads!

[@willmillard83]

Brilliant content. It is genuinely gutting to see George at 46:52 saying "He's still sad" - and, despite what some are saying here, this fight is absolutely emblematic of 'narrative' versus 'truth' in boxing. I'd always had it in my head that this fight had gone: George started strong but was falling apart towards the back end, under Carl's relentless pressure - when that clearly was not the case at all. Terrible stoppage and I agree with everyone calling to see a watch back of the Chudinov title fight (would love to see Eubank Jr too!)

[@thesignature7585]

Incredible content George

[@danielmarkfroggatt]

I was lucky enough to attend both fights and they were absolute classics, but the first was extra special. Above all, I remember George being booed into the ring and cheered out of it. Both men are a credit to the sport 👊

[@fergusstevenston]

Wow that was a treat!! Cheers fellas 👊👍

[@LJ-fm5og]

This seemed like a difficult watch for George. I was/am a Froch fan and hadn't watched the fight back since it happened but I'm shocked at how poor of a stoppage it really was. I'm usually supportive of 'a cautious' stoppage when a fighters welfare is at risk but that simply wasn't the case in this fight. I think George's mindset before, during and after this fight is something to aspire to and I'm glad to see he's still got that fire 10 years later. Love the podcast guys, keep it up.

[@wesshaw8578]

Fascinating insight into such a classic and controversial fight. Really enjoyed that gents.

[@lj8345]

This is one of best things I’ve seen on KZbin unbelievable effort boys

[@bennyggirvan1848]

I really feel for George watching this! You can see it has stirred up genuine emotion. To put on such a performance and get it taken away under those circumstances is a real sickener. Re watching this has reminded me how much I used to enjoy watching his style and fights. More content like this would be great! I’d love to see a watch along of the world title win at some point 👌🏼

[@sholaaa_]

Yeah I'd love the world title win too! Big up George my fave fighter ever.

[@2strong2cool]

Groves comes across as such a good person. Really humble. Love him

[@SmartText]

Listening to George & Dec on the pod is brilliant. GG has got to be one of the most intelligent well spoken fighters out there.

[@John-of4gz]

One of the best fights iv ever seen carl is definitely one of the last true old school fighters who are tough as nails, willing to fight anyone and is prepared to go out on his shield win, lose or draw. I was really happy for george when he won a world title he deserved it for sure. Both great champions.

[@brettyboyl]

The more you see it, the worse it gets. Such a shame. I'm glad George went on to have a great career after and is doing good with his podcast and broadcasting. Man's a legend.

[@adambritain5774]

I’ve listened to this on GGBC and wanted to post a little thank you to George for doing this. He said he could have done without watching it again so just wanted to say we appreciate you doing it.

[@staffordmiller-crook7152]

What a absolute shocker from foster. I have watched the fight a couple of times but to have you both go through highlights shows how bad of a stoppage it was. It really does show how much determination George had as a boxer because it took him 4 times to become a champion and deservedly so. Love the pod gents keep up the great work.

[@markdoughty8780]

Carl Froch grossly underestimated the boxing skills and power of George Groves and very nearly paid the price for it. The stoppage was premature, but, as always, the ref is there to protect the fighter's welfare and he was close to the fighters when he intervened - very controversial nonetheless, and the way this ended it was begging for a rematch to settle the controversial ending, which we all got at Wembley. Especially when throwing body shots, Froch keeps his head too high and leaves his chin out to dry, which is why he's been on the deck on several occasions. This was a great runback video and many thanks to George for taking it all in his stride and sitting through what must be a bitter/sweet bout for him; and, having a laugh at the same time! Thanks for uploading - I liked it and subscribed.

[@4747johnm]

Christ George, I’m a big fan of yours and watching that reminded me how badly I personally felt after that appalling decision, I stopped watching boxing for a long time afterwards. God only knows what it must have done to you to re-live it again, and to have yourself filmed whilst doing so just rubber stamps how much of an absolute legend you are. Your boxing career was a hell of a journey but it all worked out right in the end. They should make a film!!!

[@cozza819]

Great video guys, thanks for putting in the effort to get this done. This is what youtube is all about.

[@peterveste6976]

great podcast George is a warrior ❤

[@ninjasrose1653]

George Groves mental fortitude is something else. What a warrior!

[@jimnewberry4804]

Your a great guy George.

[@Hucksss_92]

Excellent content. Would love to see more of this

[@MrPaule09]

What a lovely man George is.

[@KrisMatth]

Really enjoyed this watch back with you talking through it. That was one of the most exciting lead ups, entrances and fights, and the rematch. Keep up with the actual video podcasts, find your temperament very easy watching and real. ✌️

[@JBulla2539]

I cant remember a fight where i was so gutted, was really rooting for George and it was devastating that Foster jumped in at the first sign of adversity..........and was absolutely buzzing when he finally won his world title........i was on holiday in Greece, couldnt find a stream but managed to watch the fight by having a video call with a pal who turned his phone toward his tv 😂

[@jonnywishbone9516]

Echoing other comments I agree the stoppage looks even more shockingly bad than I remember at the time. No wonder George thought he was stitched up. Seeing his emotion it’s even more credit to him that he’s managed to bury the hatchet with Froch and from all the stuff they’ve done together since, look like he’s able to laugh it off despite it obviously still hurting. I followed Froch’s career too and was a big fan but I’m not convinced he’d have been able to take it as well as Groves has if he’d been sawn off by Foster in that way. Good man George.

[@henners9747]

Fantastic!

[@Z-u-m-a]

What a great idea for a podcast. Really enjoyed that.

[@knightlife111]

Loving the pod George. Thank you for giving everything in and the out the ring. What were Paddy’s instructions in your corner as this fight was going on? Cheers

[@simongilby6817]

Unlike George I’d watched this a couple of times since the big day. But the outrage of injustice from the stoppage is still there (despite being a Froch supporter prior to the fight). Even more now after following GGBC for the last year or so! Great work fellas.

[@robz8701]

Watching this and Jesus Christ Froch had a hell of a chin.

[@XX-yn9zj]

Still standing by that fight shouldn't have been stopped and Groves won the night Brilliant stuff George

[@stephenkirk1154]

More watchalongs! Absolutely loved the analysis. Would love to see watchalongs of the degale fight, the smith fight, the eubank fight, the chudinov fight. All of em!

[@aidens04]

Really enjoyed that. Cheers. Must have been hard watching it again. I think we all know it was stopped too early. Who's to know what would have happened if it had gone on a few more rounds.

[@dothetango1]

It's fair enough that he still feels begrudged. Carl doesn't help by insisting his legs were gone. If George thinks his legs were still there then I believe him. Still gutted for him to this day that he wasn't given the opportunity to see the fight out and win

[@DMPAUL11]

Loved it lads. Great watch, keep them coming! Up the groves.

[@Slipthejab152]

Awwww!!!! I Wanna See Froch & Groves Watch IT "TOGETHER!!!" THAT WOULD BE AAAMAAAAZING... MAYBE ONE DAY... Great Fight Tho... Big Fan, Great Pod, New Sub... Keep It Up...

[@bowley8]

it's the public injustice and ordeal groves had to go through that is so powerful. life isn't all hollywood and watching george deal with this gives me so much comfort knowing its not just me when things go really bad. massive value in this and total respect to Mr Groves. I hope he knows how important his loss is to others on the wrong side of luck

[@gregmattis709]

Really loved the insight of the fight from George’s perspective

[@anthonykane1292]

Brilliant listen. George was outstanding that night couldn’t have done any more. A fight I will never forget

[@chrisbennett6260]

great content very good insight into the journey of the fight from groves point view feel bad for him glad he became a champion and won a title in the end . keep up the good work

[@jakusthekingpakus1]

Been years since I'd watched the fight and I think the narrative about how Froch was coming on strong had warped my memories of it. I thought Froch was really taking over after round 6 but watching it now you can argue he didn't even win 7 or 8. Groves literally had one shaky moment and it got stopped, absolute disgrace.

[@monkeymagic436]

Top quality content Incredible insight

[@frankiepatek]

Quality content this🔥

[@honestfootyviews-qo6nn]

Brilliant to watch this back with George and Dec. Froch was lucky if he was given 2 rounds. The stoppage looks even worse now than it did then! Can understand why George cant "get over it" he was robbed of his moment and nothing can be said to change that fact! Loved going to watch George box and made up i got to see him win his world title in the flesh! THERES ONLY ONE GEORGE GROVES!!!!

[@thedixonway1638]

Groves has always been my favourite fighter this genuinely hurts so much, he must know what his career could of done winning that one, hope that ref cant sleep at night

[@arthurthompson4278]

Unreal content 👏👏🦁

[@plankman78]

I was there. Still the most electric atmosphere I've ever experienced. The stoppage was early, no doubt, we'll never know what happened next, but Froch left no doubt in the rematch. Groves one of boxing's good guys and won the fans that night. Thank you for putting it all on the line for our entertainment, you're a warrior Sir.

[@alfiehickson8440]

Great content 👌

[@Daniel_Addy]

The more I watch it back, the more it affirms my belief that it was only heading one way. All the punches Carl was landing were having far more impact. Bad stoppage sure and there’s no way of truly knowing. What a fight and what a pair of fighters - love both lads 👌🏻

[@CryptoMacBTC]

George...your the man! If you had won that first fight your path would have been different and you wouldnt be the man you are today...enjoy the amazing ride you had and your energy is why we love this sport so much. God Bless fella :)

[@Milkydrummer]

Every time I watch this fight I just think, what a tough bastard Carl Froch is. - Most people would’ve been out of there. Guy took an absolute beating and still fought pretty well at points tbf!

[@ollierichardson2058]

Class watch. Disgraceful refereeing, at least George made his money and got that world title in the end. One of my favourite fighters in and outside the ring.

[@4blDark]

the worst stoppage ever, and even as a fan the injustice still shocks and hurts. great bit of content going back and watching this, but most of all fair play to George for going through all the adversity to get his world title. legend forever and my favourite boxer of all time for pure long term bottle and grit.

[@Fred.elliot]

My heart still pounding watching that..actually makes you feel sick..its like George Washington Duke promotions in Rocky 5 😢

[@draytonator]

I'd watch a watchalong for every one of george's fight since this one until the end of his career tbf, this was great

[@mickeastham2008]

I'm 64 and followed boxing since I was 15 ....never seen a worse stoppage . When you think of fury and wilder putting each other down and allowed to carry on and in miles more trouble, its absolutely hogwash

[@ath7616]

Brilliant idea this. 👍🏽

[@nathanjennings9798]

Would love to see groves watch back when he won the title, when he stopped chudinov.tje emotions he showed in this I'd love to see how he felt actually winning the title

[@lovetheearth6135]

Great show tonight 👍 That was a joke of a stoppage. Could you do eubank then callum Smith 🙏

[@kearnsy65]

Amazing content

[@kevmoore2148]

Loving the content mate . We where robbed of great finally to a great fight that night . I think it would of been an absolute barn stormer last few rounds. Think it would've been 1 of the best . Well never know 😭

[@Milkydrummer]

Awesome to hear your thoughts George… will you do the same for Froch vs Groves 2??

[@awesomemrk1]

I was a massive fan of Froch and I still think he was better than Groves over their careers but if it went the twelve that night Froch was in trouble. You’ve gotta feel bad for George especially by his reaction here. Having not watched it since it happened, i don’t think I’ve seen a worse stoppage in the decade since.

[@AndoMcFarlane]

i had this as a 50/50 fight going into 1st fight...all my mates laughed....its a legendry fight.. id be pissed if i had that took away early like that....but respect GG took it like a champion,, i was at WEMBLEY in front of the record 800 fans lol GEORGE just got a little check hook happy on every bum rush...the old fox worked it and sold him the dummy, to land the straight right before the hook... guys it was emotional...peace n love... trilogy? it fills wolves civic centre i reckon we can get at least 900 in

[@danielnixon1945]

Lost the fight, won in life - one of the great boxing rivalries, all the best mate.

[@atl9077]

Love to see you in the era of Eubank, benn, calzaghi, and froch- the entertainment was unreal

[@Milkydrummer]

How Howard was not prosecuted for this is unbelievable.

[@DarrenFaulkner365]

I was at that fight, it was one of the most amazing nights of my life. I will never forget that atmosphere, that knockdown, and how the crowd changed from almost 100% backing Froch (it seemed) to 100% behind George. It was like the best pantomime in history. I couldn't believe it when Foster stopped the fight, couldn't believe it then and I still can't believe it now. WORST STOPPAGE IN MY LIVING MEMORY. ROBBERY! I don't care what Frochs ays about "I would have finished it anyway" No one knows if that is true. They were swapping punches, anyone could have landed a big punch and completely changed the dynamic. George could have landed another big right hand and dropped Carl. Who knows? And that's why the stoppage was awful, the fight was in NOW WAY decided. It should never have been stopped there and, as Dek said, it hasn't aged well at all. The more times I see it, the more furious I am that Foster stopped it. I feel Georges pain. I love Froch but he should never have been gifted that fight. Anyway, thanks to both of you tough buggers for one of the best nights of my life. Hats off to the pair of you

[@MrScrutiny1]

Good content. George was a great fighter and was robbed of the opportunity to fight on by the ref . I feel this has made him a better man and he dealt with the set back very well. This story will live for a very long time and different things learnt by each fighter.

[@webb-cat7397]

Tbh I thought with the click bait that froch and groves would be doing watchalong would have been better,but absolute credit to ggbc better now on KZbin rather than a podcast. Also a bad stoppage/probably to early

[@christopherparsons591]

How is that stopped

[@bennotley4616]

Where’s all the ECMs at

[@jonwhitejonwhitejonwhite]

First time I've watched that back too. Going into the fight I was telling anyone who'd listen that GG had a chance as he had all the tools to worry Froch, but was utterly gobsmacked when he dropped him - like Dec it was one of the few times I've jumped up. I have watched the stoppage a few times over the years but only ever the bit when GG is on the ropes...seeing the whole sequence this time and George explaining the dropping arms when HF grabs him, it was a bad one. But what Dec and GG didn't pick up on until it was bang obvious was the body work Froch was putting in, they didn't mention it until 6 or 7. He'd got a lot of thudding shots through downstairs in the rounds prior to that...enough to have made it hell for George if the fight went on.

[@DeeTeaDee]

Does anyone know what happened to these two? Both seem to have disappeared….and TOGETHER 👀

[@troybennett6115]

George was my favourite boxer,gutted with the first fight v froch but froch what a fighter,got dropped in the first and wished George would have tried finishing there but hindsights a great thing.

[@Andy-uw9cg]

George was looking very flimsy in the 9th .. was it stopped too early .. yes slightly but it would of ended with George getting flattened! Like in the rematch) Howard foster was protecting George 👏

[@MercuryCircuit]

It's a bad stoppage, but it wasn't Carl's fault and why you had the rematch. Who knows what would have happened without that dodgy refree intervention. God Bless both fighters and George went on to be a champion. True warriors.

[@MicroBlogger1954]

Always my favourite boxer and that's George and it should never have been stopped

[@Ezsy1996]

gotta say...i miss this era of boxing. groves jab was everything this night, everything was set up rightly so off of that jab and it was hard to watch as a froch fan LMAO thats why it made the second fight even better when it came down to the battle of jab and in some ways you see froch out land groves with it. groves was an amazing fighter an im not quite sure what happened with him and booth but if he never left booth i feel on the night this could've gone a different way..as much as i hate to say it lol but this groves we see here was and spiteful, elusive and thats coming off the back of being with booth i feel, if he hadnt of gone to paddy i feel it could've gone a different way

[@DavidMccluskie]

Content magic

[@bonkerzmonkerz112]

‘It hasn’t aged well’ - correct.

[@josephbaron3049]

No idea how anyone can think that was a fair stoppage. An amazing fight soured by the ending

[@aviduke]

A massive froch fan but knew groves and loved his style. Was rooting for froch though. Proper amazing night, Irish pub up on our seats in shock shouting at the screen. At the time I was confused with the stoppage but happy about it. Now I know matchroom and IBF, I recon froch was saved

[@OfficialFingazMC]

Get in!

[@jondrizzle4554]

Brilliant george Massive froch fan as a fellow notts resident.....but towards the end of that fight i was cheering for you to win because your performance in this fight was something else..... Argued with my mates for weeks after 😂 thet weren't too happy i was cheering you on Sorry frochy your still a legend but george was robbed blind

[@powpow9560]

Should have done this when you had Frochy in!

[@GerrardWilliams-qt8iy]

Big love George xx one of the best

[@Craggles365]

You’re a Saint mate.

[@chrisgregory9836]

I WONDER HOW MUCH WAS IN THE BROWN ENVELOPE THE REF GOT

[@paulshallbbk6778]

I remember it being bad but it looks worse as time's gone on there's no-way HF thought Groves was in trouble no-way - imo that fight had to be stopped in that round. There was a dutch fighter who told a story on you tube about his fight with carl and how he got a visit the night before and was told where the fight would end - there's huge amounts of cash involved so I wouldn't be suprised at the fix - and as for the re-match carl was ready so the element of suprise had gone and you hear Groves say how different he felt towards carl so the advantage he had was gone this is so sad, I'm from Notts and liked watching carl but the Dirrell fight where carl should have been DQ but a point was taken from dirrell was when I knew something was up there's a few dodgy ones but none as blatent as froch groves 1 imo - when will it end?

[@daveywhyte6254]

How did that right hand not knock him out? What a punch that was. Hes tough carl man.

[@DeeTeaDee]

Oh I wasn’t prepared for…..😬

[@Svenburchard]

that wasa a 9 punch CLUTCH combation. made froch take a step back

[@haydnevans2978]

That ref, what was he thinking? Must have something against Groves or been slipped a few quid. Outrageous, such a great fight and had plenty left in it.

[@Domski777]

That last left George took before the stoppage would have put Carl all over him. Premature stoppage but I reckon it was about to become one way traffic.

[@thirstybonsai1888]

React to the second fight

[@Bennyboy138]

From close up in slow motion Froch hit you with a couple of big free shots and you fell into Howard Foster with your arms hanging down