George & Jay Dobbyns, Part 3 of 4

[@A_Victim]

George is a great interviewer. He lets Jay talk. He only asks questions when there’s a break in dialogue. I look forward to more conversations.

[@opieshomeshop]

He never answered the question if he thinks he joined the wrong team. My issue with Dobins is just that. The ATF hate the American people. All they care about is violating our rights. They aren't an agency protecting our rights or protecting the citizens of the US. Their actions are that of a hostile group of people that hate the American people in all our forms. If you're watching Dobins, we would like that question answered and would like to know if you agree or disagree with my statement about the ATF.

[@onsecondthought4174]

💯👌👍

[@kurtgeorge5022]

Power and control... and to give the appearance they're protecting the public! Which is bullshit! They're just as crooked as anyone out there... but only worse!

[@A_Victim]

All the 3 letter clubs love violating our rights. Ruby Ridge, Waco, and then we got the Patriot Act which gave them all kinds of loopholes and “in the interest of national security” permissions to do so.

[@onsecondthought4174]

@@A_Victim You got it right. Look up "Stephen Coughlin: WARNING! an up-to-date national security briefing (April 2023)"

[@expendable4h002]

The whole US government is actively trying to kill our citizens.

[@MarkBlaster]

George’s fishing, trying to get some answers 😂😂😂 This is a true hell Angel should not be out bad ridiculous!

[@johndunkerton5126]

This interview gave me a hole new Outlook on jay, I would never watch anything with jay involved cause I did not support him till I seen him sitting with George great interview fellas thanks George

[@angelobersito9770]

I read both of Jay's books and i think in the end his own agency left him out to dry.

[@Frank-uw5xq]

Edge of my seat on these... very interesting.. you guys need to do more together, ..a podcast Would be crazy too...

[@sgt.grinch3299]

This series is awesome. Great stories.

[@Dilemma1962]

Jay? You're an accomplished man. Turn your hat around. You're a grown ass man.

[@tylerangelini]

He's a grown ass man. So are you. Who gives a fuck about how another man wears a hat

[@andrewmadrigal3652]

What’s his hat gotta do with being a man? 😂

[@mauricamcginnis4063]

​@@andrewmadrigal3652Ya ..no you don't need a answer .😊😅

[@The-big-kev-show]

I was taking uppers means he was doing FAST 😊 He’s not being honest about everything …… George I love you man

[@austinap2248]

I can't believe this came to fruition.

[@shaunchigas5493]

Rouge agents in the ATF get PROMOTED.. LMFAO 😂😂

[@clownpocket]

Good interviewing George. Asking good questions. I can a lot more understand the outlaws than the undercover cop. How does somebody do that?

[@peppers776]

Good work George! 🎬🍀

[@candacereynolds1723]

What law Enforcement doesn't understand is that WE-THE-PEOPLE WANT TO BE FREE TO LIVE OUR LIVES THE WAY WE SEE FIT. WITHOUT HARMING OTHERS...THOSE WHO SHOW US RESPECT, GET RESPECT IN RETURN...END OF RANT...J/S

[@quincee3376]

These are great.

[@syyenergy7]

No way will I ride 18 inches apart at 80 mph. I like to ride but not that way.

[@steviealvaalbany2730]

Yup 👍 he was a g freak it’s well known he’s the reason “cop dope” started flooding Az streets in 03-04

[@facelikedog]

It's the simplest thing in the world. If you don't know the man's family, you don't know the man. I'm an old hang around of the Paradice Riders.

[@garymckerracher]

im also from Toronto

[@bobbieward2436]

I'm a independent and I don't like riding in groups either

[@richardfox9130]

No won can serve two master's.

[@jrsixowfour8674]

I do, work and wife

[@CreepingDe4th81]

@George Christie Was Sonny put out bad after his death? Is there a reason he's not buried with the other Oakland Angels? Edit- sorry, didn't realize you addresed this in part 4. Great interview man

[@theexiles1833]

Nothing like pack riding 2x2 doing 120 miles an hour going to an event, god how i miss being in a MC!

[@E.C.2]

Jay,pray 3 Hail Mary's every morning & night. Ask our loving Blessed Mother to pray for you & your family. Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam.

[@MarkBromser]

I bet they are best friends

[@jimmylight4866]

George is one sharp cat.

[@vickitroman6691]

I guess smoking gives you cancer. Im on the verge of it. I also do palmistry i know the markings on the fingers for jail sentences. I have psychic markings on mine. I studied it by the masters. Love to see yours mr christie.

[@MarkBlaster]

I think Jay Dobbins secretly wanted to be a Hells angel body language says everything he made the wrong career move!

[@DustyHurrle-zl1xy]

It isn’t a secret

[@mauricamcginnis4063]

​@@DustyHurrle-zl1xyTwo time loser That's also known 😅😊

[@andymalnar7750]

thanking you both again for this kind sirs. i have a question if i may ask. as ive long listened to both of your various casts and interviews, i see and hear annotations that much resemble that old Charlie Sheen movie Beyond The Law. now, Black Biscuits timeframe doesnt coincide with that flik obviosly, but have either of any info on if it was a certain happening or a combination of tales combined. just curious, as Hollywood is makebelieve anyways. then again, all good lies start with a truth, and all good truths are far better than the lies of Hollywoods eye. thank you both again!

[@usagarage1704]

I believe that movie is loosely based on. Playboy article from around 1981 about socal Hells Angels from a few years before that. Possibly a long interview with the real Dan Black.

[@andymalnar7750]

@@usagarage1704 yeah. thats the easy part. have that Playboy. bought it several years back for that Undercover Angel story. Jane Kennedy on the cover.

[@usagarage1704]

@@andymalnar7750 how close is the article to the movie? Also apparently there is a European version of the movie with an extra 8 minutes or so.

[@andymalnar7750]

@@usagarage1704 man its way far apart between the article and the movie. we always have to keep in mind that movies are designed for entertainment, which it was. Blacks article in Playboy was more bare bones and supposedly fact rather than Hollywoods idea of how to occupy an audiences time for 2 hours.

[@jrsixowfour8674]

We all feel not good enough for our wives and children, though he provided and protected them so he did succeed

[@pb68slab18]

Two headed coin. There's probably just as many rogue BATFE units/agent as there are criminal Hells Angels Chapters/members!

[@creepcloth6291]

Didn’t Hoover get killed by an ATF sniper

[@creepcloth6291]

Poppers 😂😂😂

[@albertmedel6130]

Can't believe these 2 guys are chatting like old friends. Hoover was a good friend of mine. RIP.

[@pb68slab18]

Why do ya think is called Preparation H???

[@justinkeller9187]

When I was young I wanted to be a Hells Angel. It was a sad day when I realized I had gotten old and didn't have what it took to be one. Now I'm living vicariously through these interviews and shows. Having a tough time living with that fact.

[@kristophersanchez7617]

Not worth it. Brother hood doesn't exist anymore. Always fighting each other. Jealous of each other.

[@daviddlugach7711]

The ATF should have been disbanded after Waco.

[@TheIronFourth]

Frame you for burning down your house with your wife and kids inside.... but not capable of throwing a grenade into a club house? 🤔 both these men still looking out for their former organizations

[@mr.perfect1er]

Humble braggart

[@deadguy217]

Boss

[@channelx92]

The first time I saw his story I believe it was on Gayland. It really bothered me and it was mostly due to Jay. He's done a 360 since that show. I don't know if it was the show making him pitch himself and events in a false manner. He talked constant shit about the HA and how they all were nothing but criminals. He wrote his book and eventually things cooled down and he started doing interviews and telling what I believe is finally the truth.

[@andrewjames7438]

It would probably be good to have a quick 5 to 10 second intro and outro.

[@Mrhoboo]

I see some backtracking from Jay, but it seems hes trying to be truthful here as well.

[@DaddyD-og4jp]

I always felt Jay was a bad guy pretending to be good.

[@MrCrazyCanoe]

Wild... Story tellers Stop telling stories

[@mauricamcginnis4063]

Timestamp 6.45. If you are so worried 😟 about the family .Why come on here and relive it all again ... Hmmmm .

[@p.f.droney8973]

Does Jay not know that "pipe hitter" means a violent person that smokes cocaine?

[@audielowe2700]

Drug culture does use that term, I have heard it many times..but it’s actually very old term used about dangerous criminals that need to be taken seriously. It goes way back probably to the 1900s when a lead pipe was used in assaults . I have heard my father use it many times going back to 1960s. Also soldiers use that term when talking about special forces. They brought in the Pipe Hitters. Soldiers who will take care of business.

[@p.f.droney8973]

@@audielowe2700 he was around outlaw clubs in the 2000s. Not the pilgrims.

[@audielowe2700]

@@p.f.droney8973 it’s an old term..still used today in the military, law enforcement and in the criminal world..I have heard it my whole life. Also have heard 1% bikers use it. It means take these guys seriously..they mean business

[@audielowe2700]

@@p.f.droney8973 google.."Pipe hitter" is a slang term that originated in the military and law enforcement communities. It refers to someone who is tough, aggressive, and willing to take on difficult or dangerous tasks. The term "pipe hitter" can be used to describe a person who is skilled, experienced, and not afraid to get their hands dirty to get the job done. It often implies a sense of rugged individualism, resilience, and a willingness to face challenges head-on. In essence, a pipe hitter is someone who is a strong and capable individual, often used in a complimentary or admiring way to describe someone with exceptional qualities or abilities.

[@audielowe2700]

@@p.f.droney8973I worked 26 years in L.E. Worked around 1%, street gangs and prison gangs. This term is used by all of them. Heard it often when working a large county California jail. My father used it ..he being a cop 50 years. If someone is called a pipe hitter, it means to me.. he is very dangerous and should be taken seriously. I have actually heard HA use this term along with other 1%s. It’s actually a term of respect in the LE, Military and criminal world. Google pipe hitter military term.

[@lbgreen3872]

He definitely knows he wanted ro be an angel he definitely joined wrong team lol

[@cavscout62]

Turn your damn cap around, how old are you?

[@JamesWilliams-w3t]

Two rats

[@jamesmailly7990]

RAT ! Jay Bird was out of Law Enforcement because he was enjoying the life !!!

[@gypsy1962]

IMHO, Judas Jay seems regretful for his actions against a brotherhood that actually had his back and would die to protect him, unlike the sneaky, backstabbing cutthroats he worked for.

[@JoeFriday-h9n]

He was doing a job you can tell he respects HA