George & Jay Dobbyns, Part 4 of 4

[@ronaldfeuerstein435]

Statement true to the fullest!!! "A man is only as good as his word!"

[@cornbread2554]

Let me say George and Jay, this was one of the best 4 part series I've witnessed. You 2 fed off of one another, and that is key to successful interview. When one person asks all the questions and the viewers don't experience verbal interaction needed for good shows. You two may consider collaborating more in the future regarding outlaw news.

[@andymalnar7750]

the 10 minute marker says it A L L!!! a wall full of participation trophies will never equate to a single low end victory. our country has been watered down to such a level of weakness and vulnerability that its hard to fathom how we are still here at all. it doesnt take the biggest army to defeat its enemy; it takes focus and determination. G U T S!!! thank you both again sirs. Mr Christie, i look forward to more from your channel.

[@TheYammerHammer]

Amazing Interview George! I watched all 4 episodes! I can't wait until your next interview!

[@lifeisgood662]

Love how George know how to hold a conversation. Now I know how he was able to elevate his position in the club. Great leadership is being a great communicator

[@TRlXTA]

Not good finding this at 1am on a Sunday night and then proceeding to do all 4 back to back. Great interview. Hopefully George can produce more of these.

[@stevereyes8136]

All four parts were great. Enjoyed both of you expressing yourselves honestly.

[@Itsshemp]

Congrats on this 4 part conversation. It was super interesting. The level of respect from both sides was commendable under these very rare circumstances. Great job to both of you.

[@lbgreen3872]

Not going to lie dudnt agree with this but after watching it I definitely agree it's important for the record and definitely very insightful I appreciate it George and Jay

[@dalewalker5845]

Awesome Interview, Thanks to both of you .

[@BobBalfour-n7h]

Its amazing to see the 2 of you sit down and discuss Black Biscuit and more without ego,anger or threats. This discussion will forever be a part of history for the HA and ATF Everybody's got a job to do.

[@charlietaylor6389]

My son was a 1%er he was killed in a gunfight with another 1%er. 2 men who had more in common than most people EXCEPT a different patch. THIS IS WHAT WILL KILL THE CLUB SET

[@MikeMcgrath-yr7ge]

Sorry to hear that Charlie. I wish the clubs could get together, talk things out and stop killing each other. We don't even have diplomacy in the political world so I suppose it will never happen in the biker world.

[@garyny4073]

Sorry Charlie , but u realize your son was a gangster most likely a very scary person dangerous himself to others also . But he was your son so I'm sorry for your loss

[@zulusheksta1985]

My deepest condolences, Sir!!

[@jokerswildgarage9455]

Great Interview George, I always enjoy listening to you . J-Dobbins great interview. Goerge Your a Stand up Man , Much Respect 🙏 👊

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Thank you for a fabulous interview. Many questions answered, some not.

[@Dilemma1962]

MEN having a conversation. F'n right you two. 👍

[@whattheshrek9046]

Could listen to these two all day. Great books too read both!

[@sonnybadyal7767]

George I think you have some great interview skills...you seem really sharp and focused...and I like that shirt your wearing....remember "It's not how you wear it, its how your ROCK IT" and it looks great on you brother!

[@neilradder3147]

This has been an amazing series! Thank you both !

[@brucesantacory1390]

Great Interview, Shows some Class Mr Christie, i did note there were several questions you asked that JAY never Answered, he changed the subject. and i see Both Sides, i was a Cop (sort of Gate Guard) in the Navy and over the years i've known 1%ers and Cops still do, and respect both, But I love what your doing on line Mr Christie, Always LH&R from this old Biker.

[@morto6876]

Our Founding Fathers didn't risk their honor, farms, families or lives to have this monstrosity of a Government we have today. They didn't risk death in order citizens be forced to defend themselves against their own tax dollars, at least not at this level. Clubs really are the tip of the spear when it comes to defense of civil liberties. Only a fool would throw shade on them.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Truth

[@slowburnritual3055]

How are clubs the tip of the spear when it comes to the defense of civil liberties?

[@morto6876]

@@slowburnritual3055 because they are one of very few organizations that will pool money to fight back when one of their members has their Rights trounced. It's why Americans should support them.

[@morto6876]

@@sgt.grinch3299 the fact you liked this tells me you appreciate and realize their sacrifice.

[@morto6876]

How pissed off do you have to get before you stand in line with muskets, next to your son and grandson in many cases. Many Americans don't realize what was done for us...

[@haroldkinlaw5726]

George great interview. I met you years ago in Ventura I was with my father in law at the time. He introduced me to you that night. I thought cool you ran the torch in the Olympics. I was in the service at that time. You were very straight forward and honest. I respect that being a former 1%er myself. You can’t be an old school 1%er with out being straight up and honest. There’s no gray area period. My dad taught me that a man’s word is his bond. And I’ve always lived like that. I was charged with 11 charges and spent 4years in court because of a couple of crooked cops and a snitch who was in the club.

[@dictumfactum9468]

Having lived in SD in the 70s and 80s, I found this interview riveting. "Gypsy Bob" Dawley was a friend of mine. RIP

[@johnc.6645]

Excellent series. Jay Dobbins has an incredible story.

[@jamespolizos8984]

That’s a cautionary tale. He tried be an infilTRAITOR. Everyone seems to miss that that team is harshest with its own when it comes to missteps. It doesn’t take more than two brain cells to know they make every effort to keep a clean house.

[@olpoppy7323]

Well done George, great interview.

[@wesleydeitrich2915]

Wow that was really an amazing series knowing who you both are and reading the books it was great to see two well.. enemies sitting down and having a real conversation and enjoying it. World leaders could take a lesson from you guys!

[@Madinfidelprepper]

Watched this series while rebuilding a Super E. Glad I found your channel.

[@toddmullin-3519]

A great series of podcasts with you both. I also enjoyed your individual books.

[@tomr5021]

Great interview both very intelligent, very professional men. Thank you looking forward to more interviews from both of you.

[@D-doggy77]

Great discussion, you both make for a very interesting conversation.

[@DeanKelly-n2m]

Awesome watch, I watched them all one after another and don’t normally do that. They both remind me of boxers after a fight or soldiers on the opposite sides after a war, their fight is over and they can be in the same room as each other, even a bit of mutual respect for each other. Awesome interview by George

[@gitz-zum]

Can easily tell he was more proud to be a hells angel then an ATF agent but I could be wrong just seems that way to me

[@aphysique]

They said he did alot more wit da patch on ..than he tlks about!

[@bigdaveonbass]

I really enjoyed the interview with Jay! Thanks for conducting it.

[@deanm4138]

Mr. Christie this has been an amazing interview

[@wingsoffireandsnakelover6422]

Really great interview and conversation great job

[@mikeferris408]

What a way to start yr KZbin channel Mr. Christie, to those who don’t agree with these 2 sitting down like men n talking with no resentment.. it’s called maturity. A real outlaw understands and excepts that it’s not personal! Now sure there are them A” hole cops that make it personal but a real natural born outlaw understands that he has to be smarter and hopefully doesn’t let his emotions take over and get himself inside of a can. There’s born outlaws n there’s brainless outlaws. I had my 1st cop car ride at 11, was sent to a bad boys home after being kicked out of every school in my district ultimately having a teacher for 2 yrs come to my house for 3 hrs a day.. eventually got sent away to a boys home, got released from the boys home at 17 n been on my own ever since. But I got locked up in the county jail twice at 18 n then while turning 21 n it was during Christmas n new years and I looked around… all I saw was guys! No women.. i thought to myself this isn’t where’s it’s at man.. I love women, not guys lol so I made some changes in my life and made a commitment to myself right there and then. If I was going do a score or anything illegal I was gonna do it by myself, and I haven’t spent another single day locked up again! I got busted my 1st n 2nd time bc of someone giving it up on a tape recorder and a written statement to match! You’ve got to have at least half of a brain n you gotta use it. You have to be smart n not reckless, plain and simple. Every time I did something I knew the risk and the time it could cost me and if I got busted then shame on me, no sniffling about it n I’d do the number.. if it wasn’t worth it then I didn’t do it. Plan, plan n plan some more! Don’t half step on it. Now I’m older I’m pretty much a square lol. An average bank robbery could actually be a life sentence for me bc of my age. There comes a time when you don’t want to do or afford doing 15 yrs in a cell. It’s a young man’s game, back then I could n would have done 10, 15 even 20 years.. but now time is the most valuable thing I have if I live to be 80ish. My values have changed, my thinking has changed. I did stuff for the trill.. sometimes outta need. I’m satisfied. I don’t need to prove myself to anyone or any woman, I’ve had more than most, I’m ahead of the game n I’m alive! Live n let live, to each their own.. what ever blows yr hair back, I don’t give 2 shits man. J bird did his job n they did there’s! Cops n robbers, as long as the cops do their jobs the right way then hey man don’t get mad n go hurt the opposition bc they were smarter n 1 step ahead of you! Leave it in the court room n do yr number.. don’t go after the cop or the cops loved ones bc you got careless or sloppy n got busted. It’s chest not checkers n if you can’t dig that then don’t play the game!

[@maelstrom200018]

You pull no punches! Great interview as always

[@morto6876]

Love the way he got him to say clubs should not be illegal!!!

[@pb68slab18]

No, but if your club advertises they live beyond societies law via the 1% diamond, ya, get what ya ask for! I've gotten pulled over with 1%ers I knew since when they were riding Big Wheels and the first Harley they ever saw/heard was probably mine. Pull up to my garage and I'd put the chains back on their bicycles. Years later, In our minds, I was out riding with some old neighborhood 'kids' and they were out riding with the 'kool old man' from the neighborhood. They'd invite me to parties and ''hook me up''. We'd get pulled over on a ride, and the PD didn't treat me any differently either!!!

[@morto6876]

@@pb68slab18 what changed? Aggressiveness of the kids, the bikes, aggressiveness of police or yourself? Living outside of the norm doesn't mean lawlessness. I get and respect what you're saying. Good on you for being a mentor to those kids. You obviously earned their respect, in a world where nobody wants to put work in.

[@morto6876]

@@pb68slab18 my heart and soul cry for the old America back but I think it's too late. We must never lose or free speech or right to assemble. If so, we're done.

[@pb68slab18]

@@morto6876 Society as a whole changed. Like Bob Dylan said "The times they are a-changing!''. These young guys don't give a fuck about Harleys, motorcycle culture, riding. I've heard some say if it was for the club, they'd rather own a rice-rocket. They want to be gangstas,

[@morto6876]

@@pb68slab18 but every group has those sort of people. Even Jay admitted in the interview that not all of these guys are criminals. Look at our "law makers" for good example. Too much targeting of patch holders and bike riders out there.

[@maxcady1125]

I absolutely need a part 2 interview.

[@robspafford2884]

Great interview!

[@V8Deuce]

Great job. Fascinating

[@Roadkingrider]

Great interview with interesting people 👍👍! Regs from Sweden/Kent

[@toddmorris2353]

Amazing interview thank you for sharing this

[@scootersmith7362]

Great 4 part series..

[@kumaroadking1580]

Brilliant interview

[@dyanpaintedlady]

U r obviously a very kind, intelligent,man. I never knew much about u but an absolutely an excellent interviewer & it’s easy to understand why ppl have said your a great negotiator !! Do u want to become President of USA. Just kidding !! I wasn’t excited that u were interviewing him. I am not a brother or gf of.,, or a honey. I am a women that moved to AZ & meet Sonny yrs ago doing biker tattoo contests & going to The Florence Prison Run for yrs. Been on 6-8 runs with them & will always say that NO OTHER CLUB RIDES LIKE THEM!! I thought I had died & gone to heaven!!! lol 😂. I had met Jaybird in Tucson at an event with my gf & her bf that was a full patched “Brother “ & to be honest I didn’t like his attitude or personality nor did I know he was an informant until later after some ppl I knew got busted & I have never seen again but u both mentioned him so I hope he’s doing well & happy he was always supportive of me doing the tattoo contests that I was so scared at 1st. I got intro trouble with a member of a charter for trying to apologize to him at another club clubhouse!!He got right in my face, yelling calling me names & grabbed me & kicked out verbally & physically & threatening my safety. He really scared me but didn’t say anything back. I had been sitting talking with Sonny but knew he would never say anything to him but just turned around away from me. Some other members from another charter got a vehicle & took me home & told me to be very careful because the guy had a bad temper & would hurt me if he saw me along. I was obviously scared 😱. I continued to get invites to their Clubhouse & had no problems. I was never unfollowed sexually with any of them. I think just has someone who liked to ride didn’t drink or do drugs got along with the members & gfs & wife’s. I had an experience with 2 couples that lived in Fairbanks Alaska when I was 12 & living on the streets & they took me in & helped & supported me. And the women taught me many things I have always felt blessed to have them in my life They were another 1%er Club in TX that I later visited but was an addict by then & didn’t stick around. Any way thank u for such a great interview & the opportunity to reflect on my values, beliefs & what is working in my life & what isn’t. Thank you. Blessing to u & your family always !!’ Enjoy The Ride dyanpaintedlady ( got that name bec of all my tattoos) 😂❤🇺🇸🙏🏽🥵🥵🌵🌵🌹

[@seandurler2467]

Great interview

[@ozzie444]

One rumor that's around is that Sonny was out bad at the time of his death and it was kept on the DL because of Sonny's history. There's a YT channel also speculating on this. I believe it's called Vegas Profiles.The guy who runs that channel is really sticking his neck out.

[@darknessandlife777]

That channel is flinging shit on the wall and has been repeatedly called out for making things up.

[@slowburnritual3055]

Can you tell us what was made up by that channel?

[@darknessandlife777]

@slowburnritual3055 Claiming Chuck Zito was "out bad" when he wasn't, for starters.

[@slowburnritual3055]

@@darknessandlife777 didn’t he correct that?

[@darknessandlife777]

@slowburnritual3055 He now claims "we'll, he WAS out bad but they changed their mind and let him back in." It doesn't work that way. It has never worked that way. That dude is constantly having to "correct the dtory." Like I said, he's flinging shit on the wall trying to see if something will stick.

[@timsutterby9899]

OUTSTANDING!

[@usagarage1704]

In the late 60s when the Angels organized that big meeting of the clubs on the upper east coast, did the return route come through very southwestern Wisconsin? My dad told a story of a hundred Angels one day being in a podunk town on the highway near Monroe, Wisconsin. He meant actual Angels, not a generic biker term.

[@OGtalks]

Not just because he’s a cop but Jay just ain’t likeable for me . Glad you’re on KZbin George . ✌🏻

[@larrybecker9565]

Great videos sir 👍

[@CUZ_2]

Anything is possible I suppose but I've never heard of a "loaner patch."

[@alanmiyagishima7612]

Great show

[@JoeFriday-h9n]

The Montreal chapter is crazy !!!!

[@arizonarider6998]

I like George . Pretty good interview I read Jay’s book a while back . Both of these men were done dirty by their organizations.

[@MichaelH416]

Jay just seems so worried about saying the wrong thing. Whether about the HA or the ATF. George seems free, Jay seems trapped. As far as the future of MC’s, they started out as an American thing, and they will end up an American thing. Under the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America people have the right to assemble peacefully to share common beliefs. The MC won’t die so long as the Constitution is upheld.

[@mickking5913]

Enjoy listening to what you have to say George,well done.I live in Western Australia and we would have to have the harshest laws for outlaw clubs in the world now I would think.No wearing colours in public,no displaying club tattoos,belt buckles,rings,t shirts etc in public.No more than 2 I think it is members to be together in public,this is so the club can't still all ride together.No club artwork on bikes and these start of as large fines and if repeated eventually jail time.Unfortunately we went from 4 original clubs from the late 60,s to eastern states clubs moving over here in the early 90,s and they brought their bullshit with them and things had got totally out of control,with murders,drive bys on houses with women and kids in them,the ever growing drug trade and club against club open warfare and the sad thing is our 4 original clubs who always kept a pretty low profile,every now and then there might be a fuckup or two but generally fairly good,well they have to suffer these laws now too because of these other braindeads running out of control.

[@stevecrawford7814]

Very interesting.

[@g78goose]

Interesting I love it.

[@zulusheksta1985]

"A man is only as good as his word!"

[@Condo-hr6bu]

Great job George

[@pb68slab18]

''To live the outlaw life, you must be honest!" , , , at least among you peers!

[@mattmorrison9379]

Oh the stories that George must have. Like the ones that he wont tell. New sub,

[@frankjrromano6944]

Angles work in mysterious ways

[@Chris-gi9ch]

9:22 We'll talk about that off camera......Holy s@#$! So much for a no holding back interview!

[@bobrichardson4464]

George did the Hells Angels a huge favor by doing this interview

[@terri90069]

Well done George. Would love for you to have Scott Junior Ereckson on...

[@angelobersito9770]

George, I have heard the grenade story quite a few times and I always wondered how did someone toss a grenade into the clubhouse? Did you guys leave doors and windows wide open? Didn't you have anyone on lookout? I have never been to Ventura, so I have no idea how it was set up.

[@ratscoot]

In Germany there are Hells Angels chapters almost exclusive comprised of Turks and Arabs, the Duisburg chapter for instance. In 2016 Aygün Mucuck, a German-Turkush HA president was found murdered. In the Netherlands 1% outlaw biker clubs are banned nationaly since 2022.

[@a-a-ron8623]

The 14:55 mark is the only thing Jay says that I believe

[@Sweptundertherug]

In Aus we can only ride group of 3 and no patch. The hiways are all camered up. 😮

[@jerrybrennan7281]

You have to interview little Dave from the Mongols you have to he speaks very well, but his whole story was never told would be green

[@tjm9565]

Dobbyns is a straight shooter and likeable.

[@E.C.2]

C.S.A. flag is the Cross of Saint Andrew,he was crucified on an X shaped Cross.

[@mamjack6134]

These interviews are rather sad. One guy is out bad longer than a active member, but still uses "us" and "we". Admits to following orders and civilians paying the consequences for pissing of members. He might have tried to avoid some situations that would harm civilians. but no telling how much shit he was involved in that he won't admit. And still gets defensive about being a MG . If you're banging you're banging. One guy risked his life repeatedly to keep the public safe . but now apologizing like cuckold for doing the right thing. (Other than wife and kids, he owes nobody an apology) Both got shit on by their peers. One thinks he's a hero and plays the victim, and one is a hero who thinks he fucked innocent people over. Both have been brainwashed Sad

[@usagarage1704]

Cmon George, you couldn't have reached out and gotten an answer on why Barger isn't in the Oakland cemetery? Seems only one reason possible though...Great questions for Jay. Try to get Billy Queen next.

[@jasminbegovich9500]

Sonny, is not in the Oakland Cemetary. The reason is very very simple i know where he is. But ain't telling, it was posted last year. But it isn't a secret either.

[@JohnLittle-ze7sp]

The outlaw bikers can`t die we need them to keep the government in check

[@4funrc11]

Wasn't Sonny living in North Idaho, Rathdrum area, for a time before his death?

[@1955porsche]

i think the red n whites won over Dobbyns ,,, he loved his club days n the brothers but he was on the wrong side n figured that out,,, great interviews

[@timmix331]

👍🖖

[@gypsy1962]

Americans have always had a love affair with the OUTLAW. That said, absolutely nobody respects or idolizes an individual who betrays those he has sworn to serve and protect. Jay was essentially serving two Masters in the capacity of a JUDAS.

[@tpatchie]

They will Ban Full gang patches in Australia and NZ , Australia already has in some states disassociation of members already implemented with harsh penalties being jail etc

[@rickybryan6393]

Jay would have been a good Hells Angel .

[@theexiles1833]

When a 1%er tells you to come down and eat when you are on duty, just know he will have someone watching your post while you eat!

[@joeybagadonuts7332]

Don't know how George can sit and talk to this guy. He talks like he was a legit real prospect

[@aphysique]

he said it, cause they are both out bad...

[@joeybagadonuts7332]

​@aphysique Doesn't change who you are

[@Sweptundertherug]

Jays last name should have given it away.😂

[@briancarroll.]

1:53 Dead ass right!!!

[@brianbiggs3484]

👍👍🇨🇦✌️🇨🇦✌️🇨🇦👍✌️

[@ScottHomeVideos]

George talks about demons row 🤘😎👌#ghostin

[@sgt.grinch3299]

1% clubs are the last of the free men.

[@StephenLafian]

Remember Jay you was special Agent they where criminals bikers you did your job you wasn't a paid snitch

[@jasonmccarthy5756]

i wish he would have said if i could do it all over again i would NOT because i betrayed lots of good people and ruined some livlihoods

[@MarkBlaster]

The fact that Christy is still acknowledging sunny with respect, despite their disagreements tells me he should be reinstated to good standing. Whether you dislike Jay or not, I think it’s fascinating to hear both perspectives, Christy is not in the hell Angels anymore. He’s a civilian so this interview probably wouldn’t happen 10 years ago just saying.. put the beer can down😂 certain breed that becomes one percent its probably not you…

[@Mrhoboo]

The loaner patch thing doesn't sit right, each member has a jacket and a patch why would there be a loner that doesn't make any sense to me

[@mr.perfect1er]

Humble braggart

[@stevenholquin2127]

Vld TV He Always Comes Across Like He Knows More About You Then You Know About Yourself I Didn’t Like That Interview with George and Vld TV It Just Seemed a Little Trite …..Thanks George I Liked What You Said About You Had To Go Up To Washington State For Some Business And You Took a Prospect Along Who Wasn’t The Best Rider….You Saw That He Can Come Along And It Was a Slow Ride Up and It Was a Fast Ride Down and When We Came Back He Was a Much Better Rider…. Now That Says Alot About You George This Was Not a Story of A Shoot Out a Drug Deal a Conflict or How Bad You Are It Said To Me You Liked The Guy And When We Go Up To Washington State and Back He Will Be a Much Better Rider Hey It’s About The Brotherhood ….You See You Are Not Giving Story’s of How Bad You Are You Gave a Story of Just How Patience You Are …..Yet The Story When You Rode By Yourself To Meet With Harry Bowman aka “ Taco “ President of The Outlaws and You Ride Up To Their Camp….! Now That’s Intestinal Fortitude To Do Something That Was Difficult and Dangerous To Help Your Club During a Time When You Sought To Squash a War Between The Two Clubs These are Two Extremes I Have Listened To On Interviews You Can Give Your Time To a New Young Member and Give Your Life To Help The Club Outstanding George

[@frankjrromano6944]

George

[@tracysmart7666]

🔴⚪ 💪💪💪💪💪

[@Iowaboy745]

That’s funny how are you talking about Sunny? Talk to the cops, but not once did he ever mention about the conversation that he had with the cops that were recorded of him telling way too much stuff that shouldn’t have been talked about

[@tombryant1318]

George, Just finished part 1 thru 4. What a lot of bull! Speaking as along timeHA supporter - You should just ride off into the sunset and leave club business alone. Total chickenshit series. Sonny gave more to the MC culture than you could ever dream to do. And legitimizing Jay the cop Dobbins!!! HAFFHA. Ventura Tom