George Morris: Educating a horse to a spooky jump

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@geeniebeenie
@geeniebeenie 10 жыл бұрын
Notice that most of the horses don't spook when they see the jump, but spook when the crop smacks them.
@bonnie448
@bonnie448 6 жыл бұрын
He is purposely distracting them from the jump, it is a negative way, but seems pretty successful. The idea is to pay attention to the rider, not the jump.
@ecp339
@ecp339 11 жыл бұрын
I rewatched the video and agree *some* of the horses were uneasy about the liverpool. To me it appears that hitting them with the crop only agitates them. It still seems counterproductive to ask a horse to halt in front of a fence and hit them when he obeys. To the horse he has listened to your aids then got punished for it. A crop is usually used to drive a horse forward: the horse got hit, his reaction was to go forward but that too was stopped. It just seems like backwards logic to me.
@PartnershipEq
@PartnershipEq 10 жыл бұрын
George Morris has achieved more in the hunter/jumper world than just about anybody in the world, that being said, this technique he's teaching seems quite archaic in comparison to the "Natural Horsemanship" methods that are currently proving their worth universally in all disciplines. It seems a little backwards to create tension in front of a scary jump when the horse is standing quietly out of obedience, and then let the horse escape the jump by circling away. But you can't argue that he got all the horses to go over it, but many of them rushed or kicked out on the landing side.
@uglybarnical
@uglybarnical 9 жыл бұрын
While he is one of the most accomplished rider, the equestrian world treats him as if he is a god but he's not, he's human and yes some people are going disagree with his methods sometimes. I think several of these comments have a point because it doesn't make much sense to use a crop on a horse that has just been told to stop especially since the crop is simply used as a tool to encourage the horse to move forward, and I think that's a general rule of riding, so I was a little confused while watching as well. I don't understand why some of these girls commenting on this video are being a little over the top about defending him, why are y'all putting other riders down for disagreeing with him? It's just an opinion. Shouldn't we be lifting each other up instead of putting each other down. I mean I've won 2 world championship titles at the age of 15 which was 4 years ago but I still think that I will always learn something new every time I ride my horse and there are many times where I feel like I could ride better. Also, just because someone receives "international acclaim" for a sport doesn't make them better than everyone else.They are many professionals with so many great methods that could give even George Morris a run for his money because every horse and rider are different and the same methods are not going to work for every pair perfectly. I've certainly been in the equestrian world long enough to understand the dynamics of it.
@prospectbay123
@prospectbay123 9 жыл бұрын
I have the hardest time figuring out what he's saying.
@madisonerickson292
@madisonerickson292 10 жыл бұрын
George Morris is one of the most accomplished riders in the equestrian world. People who say that his methods arnt correct are clearly insane. he is an olympic trainer he clearly knows what hes doing. there 1000lb animals a little tap with a crop isent going to hurt them...
@emmaheynen4645
@emmaheynen4645 10 жыл бұрын
Oh shut up
@yaseminmae3900
@yaseminmae3900 9 жыл бұрын
Why do you think they canter off then go check out @raleighlink14 and @thinklikeahorse then you will see what we mean
@katiek619
@katiek619 13 жыл бұрын
If you use a stick behind your leg it teaches the horse to go forward; if you let the horse stand there and smell it, it teaches them to look at the fence when you come up to it- which is what they might do when you canter up to it again. Each horse and rider is different but I have tried both methods and the stick works everytime- obviously with a hot horse who wouldn't normally refuse this might not be the best idea, walking up to it and leg yielding by also works wonders...
@clairegiblin3909
@clairegiblin3909 8 жыл бұрын
I feel as though in this case it is very difficult to tell what exactly the point of the exercise is. You see riders approach the liverpool stop, use the crop, then circle at the trot and jump it. It's hard to tell exactly what he is saying because the video quality is not the best. What is believed to be the point of the exercise is to be about teaching young horses to approach a scary jump, and not look at said jump, just to jump it. However a lot of questions come into play, for example, is this specifically designed for a liverpool? Is this to train young horses to use power and engage over the jump or just to get over the fear? These questions are not just answered by just watching and listening to this video. We know that every horse is different and that George Morris is an older gentlemen and therefore refers back to an older style of teaching. As time went on it is assumed that his teaching style remained the same, however the standards of what is acceptable in the practice of training young horses is being called into question. Therefore to a lot of us this may seem like senseless use of the crop but to him and to those riders within that clinic is served their purposes fairly well. All of the horses cleared that jump perfectly well, even with a little gusto. Even though there is a lot we don't know, you can tell by the video that none of those horses were visible injured because of the use of that crop, annoyed yes, but injured, no. There was no blood not even a bruise. Because of that fact I would not deem this abuse by any means, and I trust that the the most famous world renown trainer would never put horses, especially young ones into any sort of senseless exercise that was a detriment to their well being. In short, its just a blurry video that looks worse then it probably is, George Morris knows what he's doing, and all of the horses were totally fine.
@allsmiles3215
@allsmiles3215 12 жыл бұрын
Whips don't hurt horses unless you really go at it. A little tap is more to make noise than to cause pain. It's like clucking, but more effective. I mean haven't you ever ridden a schooling pony that you can sit there and kick till the cows come home and it wont move?
@HannahBay34
@HannahBay34 10 жыл бұрын
George Morris is perhaps the MOST accomplished hunter/jumper rider in the history of the sport. The idea of this exercise is to walk a horse up to a fence that it may see as scary, stand there so they can look at it and tap them with the crop to have them pay attention and really look at it. Then when they come back they actually jump it and then they see there is nothing wrong with a scary jump just because it looks different. The crop is not designed for punishment or abuse but for encouragement and to give the horse confidence in the rider. When you are all internationally recognized riders and win the Maclay at age 15 you can talk.
@yaseminmae3900
@yaseminmae3900 9 жыл бұрын
Look at my last comment ^^^^
@giaelhelou7222
@giaelhelou7222 9 жыл бұрын
Being proactive
@yaseminmae3900
@yaseminmae3900 9 жыл бұрын
Gia Elhelou what??
@NeemaAndGame
@NeemaAndGame 6 жыл бұрын
I know, old comment but some riders didn't 'tap'. They hit the horse way to hard.
@victorialovera
@victorialovera 12 жыл бұрын
@mydoran1 I also don't agree. With a mare that I am training, I use the method of coming up close at a trot and slowing down to a walk right before to let the horse touch the object with it's nose and smell it and know that it is not a threat. I also don't let the horse turn right before a jump because then they get used to it. So I modified George's circle into doing 2-3 steps backwards and pushing the horse sideways to already be in position re-take the a canter.
@rebeccamarsteller1208
@rebeccamarsteller1208 3 жыл бұрын
watched this and thought dear God George Morris can't truly think of something so stupid and inhumane then remembered Safesport...
@smith5213
@smith5213 13 жыл бұрын
@mydoran1 I think with the horses the point he wants to get across is the spook is not ok, you must go over the jump. If the horse is spooky at it in the first place a lot of people like to do what he says not to do, stop, let the horse sniff and look at the fence and examine it. All that does is encourage the stop and spook behavior, the horse expects the opportunity to examine it. The horses must just jump the jump without hesitation or a spook and the stick encourages that.
@gracerembold5316
@gracerembold5316 10 жыл бұрын
I hate when people say that horses aren't that sensitive and that they can barely feel the crop. They can feel a single fly on their butt, how do you think a smack for doing nothing wrong feels? A crop is not a boost it is a disciplinary aid used only when a horse is directly ignoring the other aids. Not when they are scared of a fence. When they are directly ignoring your requests and being naughty.
@mydoran1
@mydoran1 13 жыл бұрын
thanx,i see it sorta makes sense,but its not really my method either,but it was just curiousness and understanding that was needed, of that method that gm was doing abut the spooky fence stuff..
@shiiuza
@shiiuza 13 жыл бұрын
I have no idea lol, but maybe it reinforces the need to move forward over the jump. When horses see something scary the first time, they usually stop and look at it once they're stopped (i.e: if they dump you at a scary jump, they're going to look at it after or just take off.) Once they're stopped, nervous, and looking at the jump, the smack of the crop essentially snaps them out of that horsey-behavior and says "No, you can't look at this. Now let's go."
@georgiec26
@georgiec26 10 жыл бұрын
Fair enough if people don't like this video, I've read both sides and agree partly with both but how do you know the horse isn't just taking the mic? I'm just saying.
@missnay976
@missnay976 11 жыл бұрын
i completely agree with you i mean he gets the horses to walk up to it and when it stands still you should put a little bit of leg on then you should walk off calmly and then come back around and if your calf muscles aren't helping putting a little bit of heal in but im completely against the crop with spooky horses.
@foureyeddragon00
@foureyeddragon00 7 жыл бұрын
I don't care if this is George Morris, this is terrible!! I can see taking the horses up to the jump and letting them check it out...but most of those horses were totally fine with the actual jump until they were whacked with the crop, then they thought it was something scary. The crop should have only been used if they refused. The horses were doing exactly what they were told, walk to the jump, and stand there, yet were still punished for the correct response.
@doubleainvest
@doubleainvest 13 жыл бұрын
a hit like that won't hurt a horse if you think about it, may sting a little like a pinch to us but really compared to their wild behavior where they kick another it shouldn't be painful.I also think the horses in this were specifically chosen because they were spooky. so if the method works & doesn't cause pain or confsuion and offers a clear and simple understanding allowing the horse to happy with work, then i don't see a problem with this method, happy and understanding horse and happy rider
@bonnie448
@bonnie448 6 жыл бұрын
By the way, he explains that he is trying to teach the horse that a cluck and a touch of the whip means a cluck is as good as a whip. Then he does the on the repeat with the touch of a spur. This is not abuse, it is a way of teaching association of the cluck to something stronger. Then you don't need the whip or the spur, you can use a cluck. It is a shame the audio is so bad.
@kodiakclairebear
@kodiakclairebear 12 жыл бұрын
My instructor explained to me that when you walk a horse up to a jump and give them a small smack with the crop -- if they are responsive enough -- they will take a step forward, and if the jump is small enough, then they should be able to jump it or attempt to jump it from a stand-still. You can clearly see that with the first horse. I think it encourages them to go over the jump because horses generally want to make you happy, and they realize that by not jumping, they won't make you happy.
@remedyfarm
@remedyfarm 12 жыл бұрын
He knows what he's doing. He's a legend. Quiet, confidence building for both rider and horse.
@liebev1659
@liebev1659 8 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the video didnt show what was going on before. You dont know if every horse in that arena nailed on the breaks. You dont know if they just ran through the water.
@ruthstabb1260
@ruthstabb1260 5 жыл бұрын
But what if your horse is so spooky you can't even get close to the jump in the first place?
@annajacoby8060
@annajacoby8060 10 жыл бұрын
I agree the whip is too much, this can make the horse afraid of the jumps...
@hipersonhello
@hipersonhello 13 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure the crop is to teach the horse if you stop and look at the fence that they cant do that next time.. when theyre coming towards it the next time and crop its to let the horse know they have no other option ...even if they are jumping it anyways .. just a precaution :) ..
@vivienleigh1097
@vivienleigh1097 10 жыл бұрын
A horse is a 1200lb+ animal... it can handle a bump on the ass for encouragement over a jump.. which is the basics of what a whip is used for, a "boost".
@SilverSky333
@SilverSky333 10 жыл бұрын
Just because a tap doesn't hurt them doesn't mean they should be using a crop. A crop is an extra aid, there's zero reason to use it when leg would've been just fine and probably less confusing to the horses.
@joelshock4542
@joelshock4542 10 жыл бұрын
I agree. There is no reason to use the crop unless you really have to. It is an AID. If the horse is being calm and accepting the obstacle naturally, it's best to let them do so. That way your horse is confident and not FEARFUL of what happens at the jump. -Michelle Elise
@adriennedavis9190
@adriennedavis9190 9 жыл бұрын
I ride a very lazy lesson horse. I only use my crop when he is being slow (after constant leg aids and he's not listening) or if he doesn't pick up a canter my trainer always says squeeze once, kick once, crop once.) I agree what you're saying, but George Morris knows what he's saying and he is a professional.
@bonnie448
@bonnie448 6 жыл бұрын
A leg would not have been just fine, the idea is to not have the horse concentrate on the jump, but on the rider. A leg would have told them to go forward, he is not asking for them to go forward.
@mydoran1
@mydoran1 14 жыл бұрын
i'm not quite understanding gm's idea of the smack with the crop at a standing stop by the jump.especially if horse is spooky at it in the first place.
@goatshaha123
@goatshaha123 12 жыл бұрын
i dont get it with the smacking the horse with the crop method.....what does that do ??
@AccidentallyOnPurpose
@AccidentallyOnPurpose 12 жыл бұрын
Some of those horses looked like they would've jumped it if given the chance, they didn't need the crop.
@HunterPrincess2012
@HunterPrincess2012 12 жыл бұрын
I agree with his method! and never question him!
@horsegirl07
@horsegirl07 12 жыл бұрын
Thats the point of doing the excersize, because you cannot do it in a show ring. By working like this at home the horse, hopefully at a show, will just pop right over the jump and not stop and be scared. Im not a jumper, but I do work on things when I ride to get ready for a show ring.
@xLunai
@xLunai 10 жыл бұрын
This really irritates me. I don't care who you are or what you've accomplished, you shouldn't use a whip casually. A horse who is trained to be sensitive to the lightest of aids (most horses) WILL be sensitive to the lightest of aids. 2:34 the horse wasn't even "spooky" about the jump until the rider hit him
@brittanylovespickle
@brittanylovespickle 8 жыл бұрын
+xLunai my horse is dead to the aids... so not all horses are, the way put that implied that horses should be
@xLunai
@xLunai 8 жыл бұрын
+Brittany Alexander I understand some horses are that way, but if a horse can feel a fly on his back don't you think he can feel a rider's leg or a shift in body weight? In no way am I saying that I am a trainer or that I can fix your problem, but I honestly believe with consistent training any horse can be responsive to light aids.
@kyliewilson3853
@kyliewilson3853 6 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree
@madmax0781
@madmax0781 8 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants to know how to get a horse over a jump without making it scared of the jump, I can give you a list of trainers who know exactly how to do that without ever hitting the horse. I can't believe that anyone who actually even remotely likes horses, never mind loves them would want to do this to a horse when it's totally unnecessary. I guess this kind of riding is for people who use other beings for their own pleasure without regard to their feelings. There's a word for that and people who do it.
@horsefreak34
@horsefreak34 12 жыл бұрын
anyone who's questioning his methods... Did it work or did it not work... CLEARLY the method gets results and if its not for you then its not for you, but look how nicely it worked for these guys!
@3ponyrider
@3ponyrider 13 жыл бұрын
@Eamloo i totally agree with you. It could deffo teach a horse to refuse or slow down
@allsmiles3215
@allsmiles3215 12 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with that, but I dont agree that it's not going to work at shows. It works, it's just treating your horse like an object instead of trying to understand them.
@NeemaAndGame
@NeemaAndGame 6 жыл бұрын
Why the whip? It only makes a horse more nervous about approaching the jump. You can only use the whip as a help to guide the horse, not as a punishment for doing what horses normally do - spook at new thing. Why not use your voice and assure the horse there is nothing to be afraid? Yeah it may take a little longer than just forcing the horse but it will give them lots of confidence and help with their fear.
@meredithfoster8392
@meredithfoster8392 10 жыл бұрын
Yea not really understanding the initial hit with the stick
@dertrix37
@dertrix37 11 жыл бұрын
but you are not supposed to tap on the shoulder the whole point of the crop is to reinforce your leg. so why not behind your leg?
@MetalSiicken
@MetalSiicken 13 жыл бұрын
It varies tho, my jumper, would jump over fire, and he isn't sensitive, so crops do nothing, I don't wear a spur or a crop. However I do think this would work with my one hunter, but not my other, I have a feeling the one would get verrrrrry angry.I might end up with a facefull of dirt
@jj.6214
@jj.6214 9 жыл бұрын
what happens when you condition a horse to stop at every new fence and look first before jumping?! they could walk/jump this from a standstil instead of almost teaching them to stop, look, represent, jump?
@nsequestrian
@nsequestrian 7 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming by how you are commenting you have never trained a horse before. Can I make that assumption? Well if I am wrong please fill me in, but just to clear a few things up. With spooky horses, the whip is not a punishment all the time, yes there are cases where it is but most of the time it is used as encouragement. You don't hit them hard, to them it feels like a tap that someone would give you to say "hey I'm here". Most spooky green horses want to put their head down and sniff it. Now imagine going from a canter up to a jump to that. Since physics doesn't normally allow motion to stop without hitting something, you are going to go flying. It teaches the horse that this isn't anything to be scared of, and it also keeps you safe.
@equestrian3021
@equestrian3021 9 жыл бұрын
I'm getting mad reading these comments. Most of these people ride push button horses and they are like "you don't need a crop your leg should be enough" I'm not saying you need a crop but I'm sure George Morris knows what he's talking about, do you want to go compete against him..? He's probably been riding longer than you've guys been born, don't call him stupid.
@1crazyeventer43
@1crazyeventer43 9 жыл бұрын
+equestrian Im not hating i promise, cause im on the same side as you but why does he have the students crop the horses before the jumpe, then have them walk away from it?
@equestrian3021
@equestrian3021 9 жыл бұрын
Jesse Nelson I don't exactly know, maybe to tell them its not scary. im not sure
@1crazyeventer43
@1crazyeventer43 9 жыл бұрын
equestrian okay
@catherinediver2150
@catherinediver2150 8 жыл бұрын
+equestrian He's stupid
@JG-mt3rp
@JG-mt3rp 7 жыл бұрын
Are these people complaining about the crop (I assume at around the two minute mark) fucking blind? She gave the horse a pop because he'd already dropped his shoulder to run out of the halt. It was absolutely the right thing to do, it didn't come out of the blue. Dumbass armchair quarterbacks.
@hipersonhello
@hipersonhello 13 жыл бұрын
@hipersonhello THAT being said ... i do believe gm should explain why he is teaching the riders this method and what it does to help the horse ..to allow riders to better understand the horse and develop their own training methods :)
@Iwasapony25
@Iwasapony25 13 жыл бұрын
I would love to go to a GM clinic... but then I would be afraid I wouldn't be able to understand him.
@TheArtOfTheSpy
@TheArtOfTheSpy 13 жыл бұрын
I think this method works brilliantly. What it does it make the horse WANT to jump the jump. Not allowing it to the first time creates the feeling (albeit perhaps a false feeling) of want to jump that jump. It may not be pretty, but it works without harm to the horse or rider. Isn't that the point?
@nsequestrian
@nsequestrian 7 жыл бұрын
I'm reading these comments and all I've seen are people who seem to be unaware with how to properly use a crop. If you are against the use of all crops/whips then fine, but don't be mad when other people use it. When these people in the video are using their stick they aren't whacking their horse, they are giving them a tap. I'm pretty sure if someone hit you with a stick just as hard as these people hit their horses, you would see just how "painful" it is.
@com8897
@com8897 12 жыл бұрын
its not always about babying them, its about gaining their respect and trust, if you dont have that then you have nothing to work with all you have is a horse who will put up with it instead or really wanting to do it
@knequestrian93
@knequestrian93 6 жыл бұрын
This is how I get my horse over anything spooky. You're just tapping them not spanking them
@XSwiftasmyheartX
@XSwiftasmyheartX 13 жыл бұрын
This isn't how yout teach a horse how to jump. This is how you teach a horse to be afraid of a jump.
@Horsepassion4life
@Horsepassion4life 10 жыл бұрын
Why using the whip on a horse that did nothing wrong except being scared? He's answering the leg, just not forward cause scared... Using the whip is almost reinforcing that mind of being scared to me... -_-
@SittingExtendedTrot
@SittingExtendedTrot 13 жыл бұрын
@mydoran1 Its so that the horse associates the forward movement with the scary jump. So in the horse's mind, there is no other option then to jump the jump.
@mijoutte
@mijoutte 12 жыл бұрын
I think it breaks their attention. their negative attention. ooh a spooky jump i'm going to fixat-oh hey, ok you want my attention.. and then they take the jump and it's fine. that's what i see. very cool
@LetsChaseFireflies
@LetsChaseFireflies 11 жыл бұрын
Just found this, it might be more helpful and morally acceptable if you're willing to teach your horse to the liverpool. Tried it on my easily-spooked mare, and it worked first time.
@elorasinger639
@elorasinger639 10 жыл бұрын
So you stop the horse... then hit it with the whip??? That makes PERFECT sense! *mind explodes*
@esjumper
@esjumper 13 жыл бұрын
@mydoran1 It makes the horse know that you aren't gonna fly with any stopping or bad behavior and lets the horse look at it and know that if he stops, he'll be in trouble. GM knows what he's doin!
@equinefever
@equinefever 12 жыл бұрын
great video if you could hear what he is saying...
@143dasher
@143dasher 12 жыл бұрын
I will never understand why high level trainers still train using fear based techniques. Learn about animal behavior and classical and operant conditioning. Let the horse look, sniff and walk over. Associating something scary with a pat or soft voice teaches the horse to trust you versus whipping them over so that they are not relaxed. You can also school it on the ground first if you are not capable enough a rider.
@DanceOnCocaineLSDXTC
@DanceOnCocaineLSDXTC 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand. As much as I like George, why the crop?that horse was going to jump it without it.
@AnimalLeftist
@AnimalLeftist 12 жыл бұрын
Yes. Horses don't think that far ahead. You are saying "Spook? Okay. Stop. Smack." Then go is easy. Horses have wonderfully simple minds. Good thing George has just a few years experience, and a few successful riders:)
@horsefan1941
@horsefan1941 7 жыл бұрын
My favorite horse rider on KZbin(Raleigh), would probably hate this 0.0. She believes crops are abusive to horses. Cause she says it's a myth that horse skin is thick, and it won't hurt to hit it with a crop. It actually hurts them which why they react. Like I then saw her expirement it on a person, and they screamed when they got hit. Yep, if you feel the pain, so does the horse. Which why I get scared using a crop on the horse I ride now, but I have no choice when get told to do so by my trainer, cause he(the horse ride) can be sassy. Otherwise I try using leg aids for him, if he doesn't listen to any cues, then I'll try to tap him gently. And I noticed the horse I ride kicks up/sometimes bucks when tapped(for he don't like it), and I understand that.
@horsefan1941
@horsefan1941 7 жыл бұрын
Apparently with horses/ponies that refuse jumps at my barn they do the same thing, tap them with the crop till they listen. A few sassy horses I noticed bucked, and reared up when they got tapped and made to go to the jump again.
@nsequestrian
@nsequestrian 7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to let you know something, I am a human being and the amount of times I've been hit with a crop probably is a lot more than any horse i've ridden. The trick is to tap gently so that they feel it but don't go bat sh*t crazy with it. The crop is an aide alongside your leg and seat.
@bonnie448
@bonnie448 6 жыл бұрын
Your favorite rider (Raleigh) shows seldom. These people go to George to learn how to win. Winning can not be done if the horse does not pay attention to the rider.
@maddielizabeth1575
@maddielizabeth1575 10 жыл бұрын
when you guys are known as the Father of the Equestrian world, you can decide how you want to do it
@knowitallabouthorses
@knowitallabouthorses 11 жыл бұрын
The horse spooked at the hit from the crop not the jump.
@allsmiles3215
@allsmiles3215 12 жыл бұрын
Ok seriously gm has taken more people to the maclays and Olympics than most trainers (and I would assume you) and they consistently win, so I'm pretty sure it works at shows. If you teach your horse that trying to not jump will get him nowhere and he's gonna end up jumping it anyway. Plus they gain confidence over liverpools. If you've ever been to a grand prix jumping show or seen one on tv, if you watch the warm up the pros stop and smack at more jumps than they jump.
@xoxSherwoodxox
@xoxSherwoodxox 13 жыл бұрын
I think this method is wrong. Because if you look, right after the horse goes the liverpool for the first time, they kick out defense.
@ghettostarchild59
@ghettostarchild59 11 жыл бұрын
Most of the horses didn't seem that spooked by it in the first place, either though.
@pulbiberlily
@pulbiberlily 9 жыл бұрын
You can do this if your horse refuses to jump but most of these horses aren't even scared of this jump! Hitting them because "you think" they might spook is just so mean and wrong...
@dsqrd52628
@dsqrd52628 11 жыл бұрын
I WAS THERE!
@raven556
@raven556 10 жыл бұрын
why are you cropping a horse for stopping when you ask it to stop? It doesn't make any sense... you stop the horse means it will refuse more often...
@MsLorned
@MsLorned 11 жыл бұрын
i dont mean to cause an argument i just want to voice my opinion but i do not see a valid reason to hit the horse when it hasnt done anything wrong. and before you judge me i would be the first person to use a stick when the horse misbehaves and only when the horse misbehave. i think by using the stick for no valid reason when you then use your stick the horse is not going to respond. its the same as using your leg to much.
@horselover99100
@horselover99100 12 жыл бұрын
i dont know? i think it might give the horse confadence...by the rider telling them GO! and if they trust their rider..then they might be more willing with a slap of the crop bc to them crop means GO
@KarlyyMiracle
@KarlyyMiracle 13 жыл бұрын
@kickbuttequestrian thats good!
@gracerembold5316
@gracerembold5316 10 жыл бұрын
This is such a stupid way to use the whip. The whip is a last resort aid, you only use it after your horse has ignored all your other aids. When jumping, I use my whip when my horse refuses. When the horse refuses I don't let it run out to the side, I make it stand at the base smell and then we turn and set off to the jump again. If the horse refuses once more, then I use the whip. Using the whip before the horse does something wrong just teaches the horse to be panicky and fearful when coming to fences.they should be confident that they CAN jump it instead of fearful of what will happen if they DONT
@nsequestrian
@nsequestrian 7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to contradict you're words of " The whip is a last resort aid, you only use it after your horse has ignored all your other aids" as, i've ridden many horses that you use the whip with your leg in order to let the horse know that they can't just ignore your leg and they need to work.
@georgiakelleher7138
@georgiakelleher7138 11 жыл бұрын
More like "how bad riders teach their horses to be whip shy". Pretty much sums it up.
@roulettexc
@roulettexc 13 жыл бұрын
the smack seemed alittle unnecessary for some of the horses, some seemed willing to just hop over it
@shenayedwards78
@shenayedwards78 6 жыл бұрын
I have A very spooky horse and understands the frustration and never used a crop but ik lets use a crop on a horse What is already nervy of the whole situation and scare them even more hate rider like that it can sometimes take me days of hard work to take my horse over a pole bu5 the next day she fine hitter and scaring the. Even more decently ain’t gonna help them
@vivienleigh1097
@vivienleigh1097 12 жыл бұрын
A tap or smakc by the crop means its okay to go..
@SarahSkerik
@SarahSkerik 14 жыл бұрын
@mydoran1 I'm not either, but 1) far be it from me to question GM's method and 2) it totally worked. Every horse hopped right over that liverpool. They went through it several times, and each time, the encouragement was reduced (eg from crop to kick to cluck.)
@xmollybeex
@xmollybeex 10 жыл бұрын
i feel bad for these horses! They are given mixed signals!
@Horses1103
@Horses1103 9 жыл бұрын
You don't have to smack your dam horse to get him over the jump
@Unicornluver123
@Unicornluver123 13 жыл бұрын
All horses are different. I wouldn't question GM's method whatsoever considering he has excelled in the equine industry for longer than most of us have been alive. If you listen to him, he explains why he does this.
@rachelmorris9272
@rachelmorris9272 3 жыл бұрын
Well that's the most ridiculous lesson I've ever seen. Horses should be ridden out of understanding, not fear or pain. No attempt to let them try on their own accord at all.
@FancySassy80
@FancySassy80 10 жыл бұрын
this just teaches the horse that it will be smacked if it doesn't jump.. horrible way to use an aid and to teach a horse to jump a spooky fence.. this is horrible!!
@nsequestrian
@nsequestrian 7 жыл бұрын
I do hope you realize that by letting a horse get away with running out or stopping in front of it is known to be bad behavior, if they do it all the time, by giving them a little tap with a stick it reinforces the idea that they need to go over the jump. They cannot just stop and think that its enough. What George Morris is doing is making sure the horse knows that it doesn't have the option to stop. That's all. That's basic short stirrups training. Get to the middle, get to the other side.
@toriwallace9622
@toriwallace9622 7 жыл бұрын
Miya1306 I feel like there are better ways to handle this though. It's just my opinion. But I have a pretty spooky horse, and what my trainer always has me do to get over new or scary jumps is have my horse walk around it and let him sniff it, then trot into it and canter out, then try to canter in, and always giving lots of patting and verbal rewards and encouragement. Like I said, this is all just my opinion. But I believe that horses shouldn't be spanked or made to feel like their misbehaving for being scared, I wouldn't make my horse feel like I'll whip him if he doesn't go over that jump the first few times perfectly, or even if he refuses once. With horses, it's always a process not an event. I feel like what I do with my horse to get over jumps could work for a lot of spooky horses, and what your talking about would be better suited with horses who just don't wanna jump out of laziness or attitude, but not scared horses.
@littlejumpergal
@littlejumpergal 10 жыл бұрын
You use the whip way to much I don't even use it if their bein bad and if my horse dosent seem like she will go over it I put more leg on her and problem solved the horses didn't need to be hit with that every 5 seconds that is what makes me mad at a lot of riders who use thw whip
@allynmccarty5553
@allynmccarty5553 9 жыл бұрын
Jayla Long ya u do if the horse need to be whipped than it does like if the horse usually stops than u smack it so they go over it
@neveahmiller1567
@neveahmiller1567 12 жыл бұрын
its a tap. and it tells the horse that they need to do it instead of trying to get away from it. it gets their attention also.
@ecp339
@ecp339 11 жыл бұрын
Ok, so you approach the liverpool, ask the horse to halt before take off, the horse listens. And for listening he gets hit with a crop? I don't follow this logic. George Morris or otherwise this seems backwards to me. I ride with a crop to reinforce the forward aids, and occasionally to reinforce the fact that I make the decisions not the horse. I fail to see the benefit to asking a horse to halt and hitting him when he obeys.
@daniellestewart2628
@daniellestewart2628 11 жыл бұрын
This is backwards logic. Almost every horse appears aggitated. And anyone that says George is always right obviously hasn't read into his history.
@appaloser
@appaloser 11 жыл бұрын
He's a freaking God. He trained my horse's mother and she was amazing in the show jumper world.
@LoveSJCherryForever
@LoveSJCherryForever 10 жыл бұрын
***** but just because or if he is extremely rude to humans .. doesnt mean he isnt good with horses! u cant judge the way an instructor trains by the way that he teaches his students in ONE clinic that he is teaching for the FIRST time..
@kickbuttequestrian
@kickbuttequestrian 13 жыл бұрын
If i smacked my horse on the butt with the crop infront of the liverpool. My horse would have jumped from a standstill right there...
@horsegirl33eli
@horsegirl33eli 11 жыл бұрын
i understand the method but i dont agree with some of the riders hitting so hard. a tap will do otherwise your teaching them "if i ask you to halt and you do ill hit you!" btw i like the grey horse *taps* WTF?!
@hunterjumper798
@hunterjumper798 12 жыл бұрын
Amazing*
@hunterjumper798
@hunterjumper798 12 жыл бұрын
Ok seriously they aren't hitting the horse hard at all. It's a tiny crop and they just tap the horse. It wouldn't even hurt a person. Horse's skin is really thick, so get over it. It's his style of teaching and obviously it has worked becuase they all went over and he's done a,axing
@goatshaha123
@goatshaha123 11 жыл бұрын
i do not his method of the use of the crop....it's just unnecessary, the horse will jump over it without it, if not then you will LIGHTLY tap you horse on the shoulder
@evadaenen5500
@evadaenen5500 10 жыл бұрын
I don't like this video! Yes it's a good idea to train different kind of jumps, but why do you you need to use the whip so much? You ask him to walk and to stop before the jump, the horse does that perfect, en then, without using leg, they just use the whip, why ? At least let the reins go a little bit so the horse can actually see the jump!
@HorsesIC
@HorsesIC 11 жыл бұрын
Never question GM. :D (I agree with you, haha!)
@allynmccarty5553
@allynmccarty5553 9 жыл бұрын
horses should be trained to not spook and if they do u need to smack them cause if u dont they will learn that they can get away with not jumping and they will learn that they can get away with anything i know i have had that happen to me i used not to used whips now i do cause the horses know if they dont jump they will get in trouble.
@catherinediver2150
@catherinediver2150 8 жыл бұрын
+Allyn Mccarty WOW ...glad I'm not your horse!!!!!
@goatshaha123
@goatshaha123 11 жыл бұрын
yeah that's fine but they are SLAPPING the horses really hard with it idk
@com8897
@com8897 12 жыл бұрын
i have to agree with you, if anything its making the horse think of this more as if i don't do this then ill get smacked and that wont make a willing partner at all, natural is much better then this
@annelinekolstad7214
@annelinekolstad7214 10 жыл бұрын
That is so wrong.
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