BMW E90 E91 E92 3 Series Front Control Arms Replacement Guide

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George Austers

George Austers

2 жыл бұрын

BMW E90 3 series front control arm replacement.
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@nealart
@nealart Жыл бұрын
Thanks for demonstrating the wobble. I wasn’t sure why I was told they need replacement but that’s it.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@radioactivepotato2068
@radioactivepotato2068 4 ай бұрын
Solved my unbearable braking vibration after a lengthy and soul destroying hunt down of the issue. I've had the carrier off when it's been zero degrees and hammering it down plus all sorts of other madness. With a pry bar, the main bush on the drivers side seemed solid enough, went through two MOT's with it FFS 😂. Removed, you can stick a screwdriver through the bolt sleeve and stir it like soup. I don't know what's gone on there. Car is finally spot on again.
@AlluApplepie
@AlluApplepie 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect video! Great that you always properly go through the torqueing, very important
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@Slowmotors123
@Slowmotors123 2 жыл бұрын
Mate you always seem to release videos the day before I’m about to do the same job I love it 😂
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha brilliant!
@ollijyrkkio2747
@ollijyrkkio2747 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Just got these changed on my e92 today with your help💪
@ashfrost2050
@ashfrost2050 7 ай бұрын
You've done some great videos on the e90 3 series mate, thanks!
@NinpoUK
@NinpoUK 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna check the control arms on our E91 now thanks George :)
@brianrowland9993
@brianrowland9993 Жыл бұрын
Excellent informative video! I'm now happy to tackle the job!
@damiangrabowski2104
@damiangrabowski2104 2 жыл бұрын
TRW Control arm
@bouncycastles1214
@bouncycastles1214 2 жыл бұрын
Great work George. Tempted to put a pry bar on all my suspension arms to check for any play now.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Worth doing mate!
@OH8EFI
@OH8EFI Жыл бұрын
Great video! My E84 is getting new one this week. Looks like an easy job
@OH8EFI
@OH8EFI Жыл бұрын
And the way of fastening looks almost identical. What a terrible driving experience. The chassis side of bushing has at least 5mm of offset when weight on wheel
@6Martin
@6Martin 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid. Perfectly explained.
@garycook1517
@garycook1517 2 жыл бұрын
yet another good video, keep it up bud. Looks like I am going to have to rebuild my diff on my e91 as I think bearings have gone, oh no
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, that sounds fun haha! If you don’t want to do it yourself then well worth getting in touch with Mike at GearLab - if you do let him know I sent you👍🏻
@flags7712
@flags7712 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite KZbinrs
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro!
@martf9875
@martf9875 2 жыл бұрын
Another great vid ,,George ,,,can't wait utill ,,you get a f30 m sport ,,so I can follow your procedures and tips ,,,🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep em coming mate and stay safe all 👍
@fernandoruifaria5417
@fernandoruifaria5417 2 жыл бұрын
I have to do the same to 120d. Well done as usual.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same process then!
@johnyp2967
@johnyp2967 2 жыл бұрын
Good job George.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@Gitlive92
@Gitlive92 3 ай бұрын
Def gonna save me hella money they wanted a lil more than 800 for the parts and install at a service spot in town. I got the parts for like a hundred and thirty. I just needed the front.
@steveng5503
@steveng5503 Жыл бұрын
Prefer the m3 ones. May as well do both on each side. Nice clear instructions. ✌️👍🇬🇧
@Himoutdoors
@Himoutdoors 5 ай бұрын
TRW makes the control arms. It’s the same parent company (ZF, lemforder)
@dimitric3607
@dimitric3607 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always mate super helpful! What website do you use to find the torque specs?
@Hff19927
@Hff19927 Жыл бұрын
Looks like an easy job. Cheers
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters Жыл бұрын
Yeah isn’t too bad!
@tonyross7376
@tonyross7376 8 ай бұрын
Good stuff bro
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 8 ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@DavidRAlc
@DavidRAlc 2 жыл бұрын
Good work mate! need to check mines, in idle I feel some vibration on board and having 105k miles being a 335d perhaps it will improve. Thanks for sharing it.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@JUNK4UCREW
@JUNK4UCREW 2 жыл бұрын
Generally never knew the torque specs where on ista. Might make another good vid.
@caldwell1981ac
@caldwell1981ac 2 жыл бұрын
Hi George can you do a quick demo video of how you used ista for the torque settings and workshop information. I know this has replaced bmw tis for newer models but havnt yet learned how to do so. I think a lot of your followers would be interested as there doesn't seem to be much info on this around the net biddy
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah will have to do it sometime mate👍🏻
@automajstorijediy
@automajstorijediy Жыл бұрын
hi, on my 2006 e87 i have problem that front wheel has big play forward backward when i stay in front of the wheel and kick it with a leg. is this related to control arm only or can be something else ?
@chunjiin8883
@chunjiin8883 9 ай бұрын
Thankyou 👍👍👍
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 9 ай бұрын
Welcome 👍
@rybackracing8075
@rybackracing8075 4 күн бұрын
Great video. I recently had new front discs/pads on my E91, which lately developed a vibration. The garage I took it to say the discs have warped & destroyed the control arms as a result. I find this hard to believe! Is it more likely the arms had play when the discs & pads were replaced? I’m not sure what to do now & don’t trust the garage to sort it so tempted to replace the arms myself.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 4 күн бұрын
Did you bed the new brakes in?
@dogbite5509
@dogbite5509 2 жыл бұрын
You'll not have any bother with Febi Bilstein parts. Probably better quality than OEM and that goes for all their parts and products.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I’ve never had an issue with any of their parts personally👍🏻
@HorseMeal
@HorseMeal 2 жыл бұрын
Great value for money as well considering they’re good quality
@clutchinv1803
@clutchinv1803 Жыл бұрын
Can you provide a link for the bolts?
@tamaskiss1937
@tamaskiss1937 2 жыл бұрын
yep, I am about to do it on my e60 along with the tie rod ends.... lower arms are done already.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!
@bastaboom163
@bastaboom163 2 жыл бұрын
Good job mate ! I've used MOOG aftermarket control arms. Same price as Febi but in my opinion better quality.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, never tried them!
@brodiehaward
@brodiehaward 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to go for lemforder or TRW. TRW is OEM for e9x M cars, I believe lemforder is OEM for non M cars.
@bastaboom163
@bastaboom163 2 жыл бұрын
@@brodiehaward Yes, you can get Lemforder for the double price of Moog or Febi if you are planning to keep the car for more than 10 years.
@dannyb1979
@dannyb1979 2 жыл бұрын
Moog are very good; very good warranties too. Meyle, Moog, TRW and Lemforder I my usual go-to's, but Moog feature a lot now for me 👌🏻
@lieberfreialsgleich
@lieberfreialsgleich 2 жыл бұрын
@@brodiehaward Both are ZF parts. Lemförder is part of ZF.
@FrenchVries
@FrenchVries 2 жыл бұрын
Could this solve a judder i get when suddenly braking hard? Not vibrating like warped discs, but a shock from the front end.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely!
@simonh870
@simonh870 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, I need to do this job on my E92 (original arms at 124K) but I was also going to do the short straight control arms as well.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe worth doing both while you’re in there mate
@simonh870
@simonh870 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters I think so, they don't seem to wear quite as much but if they do go afterwards you have to get the wheel alignment done all over again.
@brodiehaward
@brodiehaward 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonh870 id do the m3 arms, they are easy to get on AUTODOC, normally around £50 a piece. Might aswell upgrade if you are replacing them.
@simonh870
@simonh870 2 жыл бұрын
@@brodiehaward I want to keep it standard really, I know that M3 arms improve the handling but they can also cause more tyre wear and a harsher ride. I don't buy from Autodoc, I have experienced their poor customer service.
@brodiehaward
@brodiehaward 2 жыл бұрын
@@simonh870 fair enough. Ive never had a bad experience with AUTODOC, so for as long as my luck lasts i intend to stick with them. They are rarely beaten on price for most items and usually I receive the bits within 8 days.
@burnout535
@burnout535 Жыл бұрын
Hi George! Great videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Just one question, where do you get all torque specs from? Thanks.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters Жыл бұрын
ISTA
@davidviner4932
@davidviner4932 2 жыл бұрын
Need to buy a torque spanner thingy, not to use but just to look at and make it click
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@Dannitk
@Dannitk 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼
@AlmeraGTiR
@AlmeraGTiR 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, can I ask what made you change the control arms? Did you get steering wheel wobble when braking by any chance? Cheers
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
I never noticed anything to be honest, but it was an advisory on the previous MOT
@joseluisMartin
@joseluisMartin 2 жыл бұрын
George, once you tighten lower arms at 68Nm , the +90º , are you using the same torque? I mean 68Nm, or something different? Thank you
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Really doesn’t matter, as long as you do another 90 degrees turn
@joseluisMartin
@joseluisMartin 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters I'm on it, Thanks man
@hnicstr3ma899
@hnicstr3ma899 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question is the torque spec the same for the other control arm the more straight one ? I want to change both.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Likely not!
@djqube01
@djqube01 3 ай бұрын
Cracking video but what's the part number for the bolts mate, I'm UK based, I've tried eurocar parts, LVW, GSF 🤷‍♂️ ?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 3 ай бұрын
The bolts come with the arms, have I linked them in the description?
@elliotcrosby379
@elliotcrosby379 2 жыл бұрын
What impact would this have on driving if my control arms were worn? Mine doesn’t ride very nicely at all. Quite crashy! Would this fix that?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly but hard to tell
@garydelr5757
@garydelr5757 Жыл бұрын
Are the long bolt and nut one time use and must be replaced every time they are removed?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters Жыл бұрын
Correct👍🏻
@hectorespinoza7641
@hectorespinoza7641 7 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on the whole control arms kit
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 7 ай бұрын
Do you want to send me the kit out then?
@hectorespinoza7641
@hectorespinoza7641 7 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters 😂 no thxs but when replacing the control arms can we reuse the same bolts or do we need to buy a new one and the nut too?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 7 ай бұрын
@@hectorespinoza7641 All TTY bolts need to be replaced
@samcourt6228
@samcourt6228 2 жыл бұрын
Timely…. I’m replacing them on my 130 with M3 items in the spring (it’s too sodding cold at the mo 😂). Just out if interest, how to you know which grade bolt you have?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! The grade of bolt should be printed on the head of the bolt👍🏻
@simond5208
@simond5208 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Do the arms come with fresh nuts/bolt or do you order them separartely?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
The arms that I’ve listed do come complete with new nuts and bolts yes👍🏻
@russiandrivers9986
@russiandrivers9986 7 ай бұрын
I have a bit of play in the steering. Could this be the cause of that?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 7 ай бұрын
Very possibly!
@ACE-jx3wc
@ACE-jx3wc 9 ай бұрын
I got the ball joint part out but the other part is stripped and won’t come out how would you go about that
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 9 ай бұрын
What is stripped?
@ThePetersTravelshow
@ThePetersTravelshow 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@chrisgermann6658
@chrisgermann6658 2 жыл бұрын
BMW and cheap are an impossible combination my f10 xenons cost over 700quid new per cluster, thus no choice but to attempt a rebuild lol.
@BMW_nation
@BMW_nation 2 жыл бұрын
Get some aftermarket ones that are fully built with awesome halo lights and they are about £750 for a bit very nice and decent quality ones
@lautarautentic
@lautarautentic 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@brodiehaward
@brodiehaward 2 жыл бұрын
Why not use the M3 arms? They’re about £50 a piece on AUTODOC, very similar in price to the standard arms
@TrikitrikiMan
@TrikitrikiMan 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was about to ask the same thing. Anyone using M3 arms? It´s suposed to be an easy upgrade as the rubber part on M3 arms is more solid than normal E9x/E8x
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Because they give you more negeetive camber which = more wear on the tyres as there is no front camber adjustement for BMWs
@disturbator
@disturbator 6 ай бұрын
Hi mate. My car pulls to the right. Alignment done 3 times. New tires, tyres aligned... Would this help?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 6 ай бұрын
Any play in your bushes?
@disturbator
@disturbator 6 ай бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters well a mechanic lifted it and shaked the wheels. Front ok only right rear a very small barely play.
@seanpaul3050
@seanpaul3050 2 жыл бұрын
Can fit m3 arms to give more front camber
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s an option but then you go through front tyres quicker
@brodiehaward
@brodiehaward 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters depending on driving style, it can actually prolong tyre life. If your constantly shredding outside shoulders its well worth it.
@verdej2057
@verdej2057 2 жыл бұрын
Recommended this on a 2007 X5 with 110k?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@joaomachado4056
@joaomachado4056 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the videos. That car with 100K miles , hummm, I think it needs to change the gearbox oil, the power steering oil and the differential gear oil. we want to see.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Yep have a full service video coming soon👍🏻
@exorNTV
@exorNTV 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't you upgrade the BMW M3 Control Arm Upgrade?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Because they give you more negative camber which = more wear on the tyres as there is no front camber adjustement for BMWs
@2b2bs
@2b2bs Жыл бұрын
Mine has like little pins around the nut how do i get it off
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters Жыл бұрын
Tap it off with a screwdriver and hammer
@2b2bs
@2b2bs Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters thenk you so much bro
@AmanBloushi
@AmanBloushi 2 жыл бұрын
Do you plan on doing the timing chain on this, based on the mileage?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Pretty confident it’s already been replaced👍🏻
@leenevin8451
@leenevin8451 2 жыл бұрын
these dont get flagged on MOT, car feels like it jiggles
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
These were an advisory on the previous MOT mate
@jonathanowen6147
@jonathanowen6147 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve posted comments twice but they disappear. This is a sort of a test…
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know what the comments were?
@jonathanowen6147
@jonathanowen6147 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters On your previous video I commented that I’d coded out the stop-start feature on my F30. Comment disappeared so I reposted it. Disappeared again. I wonder if KZbin deleted it because I mentioned the software i used…
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanowen6147 Interesting! Yes I never even got to see those comments, I'm pretty sure I did block all links though because I had an issue with scammers spamming their links before
@jonathanowen6147
@jonathanowen6147 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters Just tried…it won’t let me post the word Bi**erCode
@davidb-d4vid342
@davidb-d4vid342 2 жыл бұрын
bro i have a question, i got a F30 2.0 Diesel but i had a accident and i had to renew the whole left fender + light, all those control arms... but i didnt know u need to torque them when they'r on weight... i can tell u i got a little vibration on the left side and cant solve it. i bought allready 2 sets of wheels 1 was bad other one is balanced and is good. even if i drive in corners the car feels weird like its gonne brake out it only got 163hp :( since i have the car i never gone higher then 180km/h = 111mph cuz the car is healthy enough service is a must but it drives like sht. if i see in your videos how it needs to be driving then damn i bought the rong car.... ps: Love your videos, simple and easy love it. sorry for my bad english.
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Check those control arms for play
@davidb-d4vid342
@davidb-d4vid342 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeAusters ok hope it will do it. Thnx mate :)
@piovo5222
@piovo5222 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidb-d4vid342 what was your problem?
@pietropietros216
@pietropietros216 2 жыл бұрын
i think control arms should be torqued under load ( car on the ground)... ?
@AlexGnok
@AlexGnok 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct - that's why it says "tighten down in normal position" in TIS instructions. "Normal" position is when wheels are loaded, i.e. on the ground
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 жыл бұрын
Did you not watch the video? The car was down on the ramps when I torqued the bolts😅
@liamordones7790
@liamordones7790 Жыл бұрын
What brand are the lower control arms i need all 4 front for my 328i 2008
@01123581321341
@01123581321341 2 ай бұрын
George - Do you rate Febi Bilstein as a brand ? Are their parts good quality or rebranded Chinese made rubbish?
@GeorgeAusters
@GeorgeAusters 2 ай бұрын
Yeah they’re decent👍🏻
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