ULTIMATE The Walking Dead Iceberg Explained!

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In this video I breakdown and explain my ultimate The Walking Dead iceberg. An iceberg is a chart about a certain topic with tiers of popularity, with the things on the top of the iceberg being the more casually known facts and as we go further down the iceberg they become more and more obscure. With how much I already talk about The Walking Dead on the channel, just how obscure can these things be? Watch to the end to find out. From characters that left way too early after being promised a longer future in the show to the deep dark unknown areas of The Walking Dead universe such as the Vatos, the Lonely Walker Theory, what started the zombies, new walkers, France and Rick Grimes seeing the future. Enjoy!
This is the first iceberg video on the channel! I'm going to start with The Walking Dead then Telltale's The Walking Dead and then Breaking Bad. Let me know your other suggestions down below, I'd love to do more. Let me know what you thought of this video! What's on your Walking Dead iceberg? What else should I have put on there? Let me know down below! Thanks for watching. I'll see you soon.
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[@GeorgeDrakeGD]

NEW VIDEO! Telltale games ADAPTION into The Walking Dead's TV universe! Clementine & Lee HUGE crossover kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmGbZK2jjrONf7M On the topic of the Breaking Bad & TWD connection, yes Glenn was a pizza delivery driver, that’s common knowledge in TWD. That still doesn’t mean he wasn’t in New Mexico 2 years before, when that Breaking Bad scene was set. They’re just fun Easter Eggs though. How Joel will get a DIFFERENT ENDING in The Last of Us show kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5S0qaaOaLWtqs0 NEW Telltale's The Walking Dead iceberg out NOW! Rick Grimes crossover and SEQUEL season kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmLYnIpjetOprNU If you enjoyed the video make sure you press the LIKE button on the video and subscribe if you're new, thank you for the support! Let me know what you thought of this video! What's on your Walking Dead iceberg? What else should I have put on there? Let me know down below! Thanks for watching. I'll see you soon.

[@thomassimmonds6764]

What happened to Virgil

[@tfb_akd3812]

Please do a Pixar one of theses

[@kingrhuts1422]

Both the walking dead and toy story are created by the premise of borderline personality disorder, that why they were both so popular; people are crazy and afraid of being abandoned.

[@codyd5710]

Jesus loves u and died on the cross for our sins and he is our lord and savior

[@nathangoudie6510]

O lol

[@joshhughes8394]

I love the fact you mentioned the thing about Abraham, because its true what you said, even if you only pay attention to the last scene around the RV at the end of season 6 you can see that abraham isnt scared of Negan and this makes Negan slightly intimidated and he knows hes gotta get rid of him to scare the others into submission, brilliant bit of story telling

[@eftinoiueduard4855]

I always thought that rick might ve died right there too because of the way he looked at negan,after he killed glenn and abe and saying that he will kill him i think negan only spared him because he saw he was the leader or at least would ve still made him cut off carl s arm if he wasnt the leader,or would ve just killed him too

[@thezinga7548]

@@eftinoiueduard4855 Negan said it himself why he didn't kill Rick. He said something alone the lines of, "I just didn't want to kill a man in front of his son, turns out that would've been the best thing that'd ever happened to him, maybe he'd still be alive if I had." (I believe this was on the episode in which Rick slices Negan's throat). Negan would have killed Rick instead of Abraham if Carl hadn't been there.

[@Pop_Shepski]

Abraham was my favourite character for sure *Chuckles* "Mother Dick"

[@deckzone3000]

Intimidated? 😅 Negan isn't scared of anyone, especially someone kneeling in front of him.

[@CincinnatusPublish]

@@deckzone3000 I think when Abraham straightened up and locked eyes with Negan he figured this would be a future threat.

[@griffincernetich5820]

Just ranting my thoughts after watching this. Behind the scenes twd did some pretty disrespectful stuff. Killing Andrea and Carl early when promised more time, etc. But, personally, I think the worst thing they did so far was when the failed to mention Rick in 11x12. Pamela asks Daryl about Dianna, and he goes into why he respects her so much, building up Alexandria for them from the start. But lets be real, without Rick, Alexandria crumbles. He did so much for all the Alexandrians, even everyone at the Hilltop, and they fail to mention him the entire time.

[@Yveslaurentx]

Thats true but Deanna Was the one who brought them in and actually wanted them there. Maggie Is The reason All communities were able to flourish because Of georgie. She was the one who Gave maggie the “Key to the future.” Book which taught them How to build things. Lets be honest rick indeed help save Alexandria Multiple times. Why do you think all of the praise went to maggie?

[@mark.trujillo]

yeah but pamala didn’t know rick she knew dianna

[@jaycooper7475]

It could be plot armour, if the common wealth have connections to the CRM Pamela may possibly know who Rick is. We'll find out soon enough.

[@itsDjjayyArt]

@@jaycooper7475 I hope I see them cross paths

[@abbyniloingsigh7188]

I mean Pamela was asking about Deana because she knew her.

[@Tristan7086]

Rick isn't schizo, he knows his hallucinations aren't real. A schizophrenic has no idea. Rick is just extremely traumatised.

[@swankDaboobin]

Definitely would have loved to see Dale’s moral compass in some of the later seasons.

[@jermonttrice8536]

Exactly

[@goddessgang8309]

Dale was the first hersel. 😢

[@ImSquiggs]

I stopped watching originally when “ole bucket hat” as I called him died haha. I went back to it later and loved the whole show, but that really killed the early episodes for me first time around

[@parys301]

When daniel said the cigar is for “when things get better” alludes to the fact that abraham told him the world would be getting better because Eugene knew of a ‘cure’ at this point in the timeline!

[@sohonaive2014]

what if the reason beta doesn't like noise is because when the apocalypse was happening he was performing a concert which attracted all the walkers so then he had to witness all his fans get torn apart? and its all just a trauma thing? i could be wrong lol just a thought

[@avrie6668]

OH FUCK okay that’s more than enough reason like damn

[@joanneweller8881]

Best choices were not to kill Daryl and forming his character the way Norman wanted and giving Tdog, Carols death. They are by far my fav duo and blessed it worked out and now they have a spinoff.

[@diegobrando1100]

Abandoning Andrea as a character was a huge mistake. Show became unwatchable around the time neegan appeared.

[@demon_hawkeye5269]

@@diegobrando1100 I find that to be a big exaggeration but I will say this, the show regained it's quality in season 9 so luckily the dip in quality in seasons 7-8 didn't last

[@diegobrando1100]

@@demon_hawkeye5269 I would disagree, I would say that the walking dead is one of the prime examples of a show diverting from the source material to the point of being unrecognizable. Watching a walking dead that doesn’t include Rick, or Carl is like watching breaking bad without Walt or Jessie

[@demon_hawkeye5269]

@@diegobrando1100 but I will agree, after reading the comics, show Andrea was not only trash in comparison but also got wasted making her character in the show even more tragic

[@demon_hawkeye5269]

@@diegobrando1100 that is not a good comparison, breaking bad didn't go on for nearly as long as the walking dead, the actor for Rick left the show, there is absolutely nothing the writers could do about that, walt and Jesse are relied on by breaking bad, Rick and Carl weren't relied on by the walking dead, it diverting from it's source material isn't a bad thing in itself, I find much of the diversions to be very well done, for example, I fins the TV version of the whisperer storyline to be equal to the comics despite not having Rick or Carl But yes, them killing Carl was absolutely idiotic, but that was a problem of season 8, the show got far better after that which cancelled out the idiocy of that decision (although season 8 episode 9 was actually a really great episode, Carl dying was not worth it and a dumb decision)

[@ninthdoctor7918]

In season 9, episode 5, Shane says "How is my little Girl?", and Rick replies "She Dosen't have your nose." implying further that Shane is the father.

[@JesusChrist-yl1dx]

It only implies that Rick believes that Shane is her father

[@aaronneville1278]

Rick literally says “I know Judith isn’t mine”

[@charlotte3794]

your voice is so soothing, i struggle with sleep so i’m very thankful for something so interesting to unwind to :)

[@theavastark6463]

I'd love to see twd spin offs set in different places around the world, outside the us

[@cook2593]

Check out the ending scene to season 2 of the walking dead world beyond, looks like your wishes might be coming true!

[@Krystlist]

I wanna see TWD Australia. I want zombie kangaroos and drop bears! 🤣🤣

[@thegamingdevil5558]

@@Krystlist Nah that would be wild

[@verna-Raven]

@@cook2593 the show spin off is dead now 😩.. it sucks.. but I feel like michone will run into rick. Cause thanks yo the girls for starting the fall of the crm. They people on horses take off

[@venomius]

How's france....you got your wish

[@eddykaye8217]

I think it would be pretty cool if they brought Rick back, in the same way as before. When he woke up from that Coma, and found out the world had ended. They should have him wake up from another coma, only to realize that he's in some kind of hospital that is fully functioning. They shouldn't have him work for the CRM, just re-introduce him again by showing him waking up from another coma

[@FernStone]

Feels so good reading the comments ... everyone I know didn't make it past season 3 .. so it's comforting to be amongst others who are still watching ! Have to admit I started the whole thing last year ... watched it every night ! LOVE it . also this video was great , I'm still watching but I'm fully invested !

[@klmpore4334]

We are united lol

[@FernStone]

@@klmpore4334 YES!!! at least we will be the most prepared if a zombie apocalypse does happen hahaha

[@someone-pi3np]

No way they watched the first 3 seasons and didn’t like it! They don’t have a taste lol

[@FernStone]

@@someone-pi3np they like the first 2 seasons ... but decided not to watch after the third... !! terrible behaviour hahaha !

[@joenobody5913]

@@someone-pi3np As someone that watched the first three seasons and did quit, I do have taste. I just don't happen to like the taste of shit, hence me quitting. I tried coming back but then they met the garbage people with the whole "less words faster talk", and while it was hilarious, it was just another example of some of the worst writing on television. I could easily continue listing absolutely awful writing examples if you'd like? It's cool that ya'll love it, I desperately wanted to as I loved the comic, but lets not pretend it's some incredible flawless show. Watching vids like this and others that do quick recaps have just reinforced my decision to quit for good too.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

I've been watching your vids recently and searched Walking Dead Iceberg having no idea that you uploaded this today. Great work and explanation!

[@ThatJayBloke]

If Rick really did see the future then it wouldn't be completely outlandish in the Walking Dead universe. Jim from season 1 had a premonition of the herd reaching the camp and killing certain people and dug the exact amount of graves needed for the people in camp who died before the herd reached it, if I recall correctly

[@eunocicada62]

I forgot all about that, there really were a lot of hints towards either supernatural or sci fi stuff early on that just got completely dropped

[@ThatJayBloke]

@@eunocicada62 makes sense really. As it was Frank Darabont as showrunner. That sort of thing is within his medium. I would love to see how the show developed if he had remained at the helm of it

[@eftinoiueduard4855]

@@ThatJayBloke i think the show would ve been a lot better if he was still showrunner,he was actually going to dive in more into what happened before rick woke up at the hospital,the walker rick kills in that tank was going to be in a episode where frank would explain what went down in atlanta and how he ended up in that situation,i think from what i ve heard his tank ran out of ammo or gas so thats why he was stuck,either way i thin the show wouldnt have been as hated as it once was

[@sandybulla5843]

The virus caused the vale between the living & the dead to become much thinner. That's why certain seemingly supernatural events took place in the early episodes. If everyone was infected, then everyone could have these thoughts.

[@Aaron-mj9ie]

You know what's crazy is that there have been real, documented premonitions in real life during stressful situations. On more than one occasions, soldiers at war have been able to predict the date and time of their own death, and some even the same exact method in which they were killed.

[@aempyTV]

I feel so sorry, for the people who quit the show because it is not always about the survival against the undead. I started for the zombie factor, but stayed for the whole thing.

[@LadyBDavis]

I stayed for the survival of the living. I don’t normally watch this genre. TWD is just so good. It has such a diverse audience.

[@aempyTV]

@@LadyBDavis character development is what makes the series so great. Gabriel & Carol

[@LadyBDavis]

@@aempyTV yes! These two I. Particular are 💯💯

[@jenniferburnett2165]

100%

[@MajinPorunga]

Even as a kid when we would play zombie survival the zombie part was the fun part and then pretending to fight others trying to steal our sweet and toy guns was the fun part. Add 30 years onto our age and its literally a child version of fighting other survivors. Walkers can ultimately be avoided. I never understood why they get split up or don't even have a place they'd all meet in the event of being over run. They just all happen to meet one by one and all head in the right direction by luck. I'd like a zombie show where people are intelligent in their survival and not their fighting.

[@BAJPGeneticGenealogist]

I’m glad you brought up the BB Easter eggs. I just wanted to say that typically, the more common way to spell the name of Steven Yeun’s character would be Glen, but his name is spelled Glenn. I just did a BB rewatch a few months back and had the closed captioning on during that scene when Skyler discusses returning the Dodge Challenger. The dialogue appeared on screen as Glenn. Even though it’s not a glaring, huge thing, I take it to mean that the script that the production people provided to the CC company, ensured that the name was spelled the same on purpose-which is the less common way.

[@jeffreyrent9532]

Well he wasn’t a general manager of anything, he was doing pizza deliveries was he not.

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

@@jeffreyrent9532 He could have mucked up good, maybe use some of the blue stuff from Walter, get himself fired and only be able to keep on to a pizza delivery job. He knows nothing about cars? Well, since when is knowledge of the product a requirement for any type of manager?

[@BAJPGeneticGenealogist]

@@jeffreyrent9532 I agree that it’s not him. I’m only stating that they’re pushing the BB/TWD Easter eggs by linking it back again. It’s clearly not meant to be the same person but it’s interesting that both shows chose to acknowledge the other in a small way.

[@kyleellis1825]

@@sjonnieplayfull5859 Breaking Bad and TWD are alternate timelines. In Breaking Bad, Glenn eventually got a job at a dealership. In the Walking Dead, the world ended before he switched careers.

[@TimothyLyons84]

I really wish they did not kill Abraham i would have love to seen Abraham against Negan, Beta. I think Abraham and Daryl would have been an amazing team

[@sealake7935]

Abraham was a tank. He was definitely the best fighter they had. Negan definitely knew he would be a problem in the future if he was kept alive. I really wish we got to see Abraham and Beta face off

[@jackmacdonaldmackey4847]

I could listen to this man talk bout twd forever💀

[@biglyf8148]

True

[@ColtraneAndRain]

He does have "the voice"

[@gingerbell07]

Same, I enjoy him lots.

[@themagnificentorange672]

Fax

[@benjifilmz6495]

Facts 😂😂

[@Humandriver5280]

Note that the CRM logo appeared on a road sign near the Kindom. This was a scene just before the fair massacre. The CRM knew about the characters seasons ago.

[@itsDjjayyArt]

Oh and chose not to intervene

[@emmelienschillern2394]

do you know which episode?

[@artur7830]

20:00 no because did I forget the reason Glen new his way around Atlanta is because he was a pizza delivery boy I'm pretty sure Glen says thus like 3 times in the show

[@lazydaze3134]

I can't remember if he mentioned it in the show or not. More than likely I'm sure. But he definitely mentions it several times in the comics.

[@xamountofwordsaid]

Yea he mentioned it, I think it was when he nd Daryl had a conversation and he said he was a pizza delivery guy

[@samsmith4554]

I'm glad I've found someone who loves this show as much as me. Great vid 👍🏼

[@jenniferburnett2165]

Obsessed wiv twd

[@Lizzard2060]

Reminds me of six degrees of separation. The idea that you know someone who knows someone that knows someone you ran into before and everyone is only a max of six people away from everyone. With the characters on FTWD Daniel could have easily run into a character from TWD and he could not know Dwight was involved in his death because you don't talk about every person you have known or on the show, have "dispatched". Just like Negan and the Preacher have not mentioned Jadis and the Helo. You don't say everything that happens to you but things are so closely related and there are so many consequences if people shared. For Negan and TWD it would likely give Daryl hope as to why he could not find a sign of Rick. For Dwight, it may not be best to share with Daniel. People are always more closely linked than we think. Heck, maybe the scientists took some of that meth and made it into something else?

[@bakenator7420]

Andrea was so much better in the comics, in the show she was a whiney emotional idiot. She was one of the few main character deaths I was happy to see in the show.

[@kingol4801]

Yep. Her romance with Dale? in the comics was also sweet

[@TimSedai]

I won't lie I still unabashadly love this show, flaws and all

[@thescandinavian2487]

How ? Not criticizing just curious.

[@TimSedai]

@@thescandinavian2487 probably sunk cost fallacy tbh lol

[@TimSedai]

But in all honesty I STILL enjoy the characters and the post-post apocalypse they've built since the time skip is interesting. Idk man. Different strokes for different folks

[@thescandinavian2487]

@@TimSedai Fair enough.

[@joycenorthwind6874]

Me too. I stuck it out and even forced myself to watch DW (good I did because that is where Rick ended up) but what got to me was the really stupid filming errors. Like when the heads were all put on a pike. Did it occur to no one filming that a head with a pike through it's brain would not be a mouth moving head. There were a lot of careless things like that and they took me out of the story I was enjoying.

[@Eiorith]

My first thoughts on the zombies doing things you don't see anymore like sprinting, climbing the fence, using rock to break the glass and Morgan's wife using the door handle was simply because they had just turned leaving the corpse with some reflexive memory and rigor mortis hadn't started to set in yet bringing them down to a slow shuffle over time (but hell, I have not watched the show in seasons, I seem to remember some freshly turned walkers later on that were slow too though..)

[@Scally181]

That would be true but the CDC and TS-19 revealed that nothings left after you turn

[@Leo.de99]

And why didn’t the newer freshly turned walker do these things ?

[@Eiorith]

@@Leo.de99 Original Director Frank Darabont was fired early on, then they just ran with whatever they wanted continuity be damned

[@t.5350]

@@Leo.de99 thats it 👍

[@BAJPGeneticGenealogist]

Good job, I enjoyed that. I was hoping you’d also discuss Toledo. Back in season 9, there is a shot of a tree with signs that read: “HQ”, “Oceanside”, “Alexandria”, “Sanctuary”, and “Toledo.” It was never explained why there weren’t signs for Kingdom and Hilltop, and it was also never explained to what the HQ and Toledo signs were referring. Then in the WB post-credit scene, the two French scientists discuss that some of the scientists were in Toledo when the apocalypse began. The man asked “Spain?” and the woman answered “Ohio.” This is weird as Toledo is not a major US city. It’s large, but by no means is it comparable to a very large city. Just for perspective, Toledo, Ohio has a population of about 270,000 people and is #84 in the list of most populated cities of the US. It’s just weird that it would come up randomly on both shows. It’s not like it’s NYC, LA, DC, or even Atlanta. Atlanta being important because it houses our national Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that we see in season 1. Whether they keep going with this or not, I have no idea, but Toledo being on the tree sign was weird and people thought we were meeting a new community, then nothing. Now, it’s being referenced in that WB scene as the place where a significant portion of the French scientists were when all hell broke loose can’t be coincidence. Thanks for an entertaining video!

[@KillEmEarl]

You have a flawed prospective of what a major city is, Toledo is the 84th largest city in the USA, to put the size of the city of Toledo and it's #84 rank in better perspective for you. I'll mention the fact that there are 1,177 cities, villages, and townships in the State of Michigan and only a few of those Michigan cities have a bigger population than Toledo, Ohio. Toledo has been a major port city in the USA since before the pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock. Toledo is by all measures and definitions an important major U.S.city with a significantly large population when comparing it to the size and population of more than 99% of all other U.S. cities. At #84 on the list of biggest U.S.cities, it puts Toledo, Ohio in top 0.3% of biggest cities in the United States.

[@BAJPGeneticGenealogist]

@@KillEmEarl Thanks for all that, but I don’t have a “flawed *prospective* (sic) of what a major city is.” The emphasis of the word “prospective” is mine, of course because it makes no sense. If you read my comment more carefully, you’ll see that I compare it to LA, NYC, DC, and Atlanta (for reasons of the CDC only). I really don’t care how big Toledo is compared to all the cities in Michigan because it serves absolutely NO PURPOSE. It’s still #84 in size, which I included that number for those outside the US, so there was some context that we’re not even speaking about a city the size of Indianapolis (which I could get on board with calling a major city). The reason is to point out that Toledo is not a major metro area that one would expect to be relevant and be brought up on two separate TWD programs just because they’re big-like one could expect from NYC, LA, etc. Toledo may be a large city but by no means is it some huge, major city.

[@KillEmEarl]

@@BAJPGeneticGenealogist But Toledo is a major metroplitan city, transportion hub, and shipping port. Toledo is the 84th biggest out of the 19,502 cities in the entire U.S. Toledo is a major U.S. city, whether you think it is personally doesn't change facts or reality. It's the 4th largest city in Ohio and has nearly as many people as Cincinatti and Cleveland.

[@meganmarts5769]

I kinda figured Toledo being on the sign in the woods near Alexandria was a bit of a joke. I've definitely seen signs like that in camp grounds pointing to random cities like Albuquerque. But when they mentioned it on World beyond I wasn't so sure. Omaha and Portland survived. Maybe Toledo is the CRM? But I thought the CRM was in Philadelphia. Hopefully they can clear all that up for us. So many unanswered questions. That's why I watch videos like this and check the comment section

[@zeleeba8774]

Toledo is in Ohio, as is the Commonwealth. Maybe the Primrose team is in the Commonwealth and Pamela delivered an ultimatum to the Civil Republic that if they attack the Commonwealth, the scientists will die, and they are important for CRM, because the Primrose team is responsible for creating fast zombies, possibly an apocalypse.

[@Dmonstarkiller]

Another lesser known fact for ya! Billie Eillish made a song for TWD around I believe the 3rd season. It was called fingers crossed. It didn’t air on the show, but it’s a fun little connection!

[@miekgg]

One thing i never understood is why tyrese didn’t cut his arm off initially after getting bit. He had an axe and bandages and yes I understand the whole shock factor and willingness to cut off your own arm, but Noah and the rest of group would’ve found him before he bled out.

[@Lisbuns]

His axe was probably really dirty and he would’ve died from infection anyways, just in a more excruciating way.

[@DYLAN-dg2mf]

“It’s better now” he didn’t want to fight anymore, he let it be

[@miekgg]

@@Lisbuns eh i mean right it man it’s life, even if it’s not worth living he still had his sister alive.

[@donslab5953]

he had a hammer, not an axe

[@miekgg]

@@donslab5953 nope superfan here😂 he had an axe, and even if he a hammer, he could’ve easily found noah who was in the house next door and immediately cut off his arm.

[@DeadCell79]

Maybe a part 2 for this could be done in the form of a retrospective once the finale is done and dusted. Maybe once we’ve seen another season of Fear the walking dead or maybe after the first Rick Grimes movie.

[@brokebutfunctioninggarage]

1:58 I thought when the survivors first got to alexandria the kids wanted carl to play video games and "shoot zombies" in them? I could be wrong but Im pretty sure I remember that because carl just looked at them with confusion bc he HAD been LIVING that in reality while they sat behind the walls and acted like the world was normal?

[@leodokardosb8207]

One of my favourite videos of yours. It's probably the 4th time I'm watching it. Please make a part 2!!!

[@branlu238]

Never knew the toystory simularities 😂very cool stuff

[@MaxMawGames]

Awesome video! I didn't really know anything about Icebergs. I'm very curious about the Pixar iceberg - please look into doing it!

[@cincinnatipedalsteel4347]

the toy story video was one thing i never knew and it is fantastic!!!! comparing the governor and the bear is just too perfect.

[@Brodawg-rv8ne]

Knowing that t-dog most likely died because the actor was late to shoots pisses me off so much

[@alexbartha274]

The Jessie Pinkman theory is kind of stupid when daryl's story about the tweaker takes place like 10 minutes after stating he's never been outside of Georgia. Glenn was also delivering pizzas, not a general manager. It's implied that he still lived at home. The paintjob on the car is also different. They're just easter eggs.

[@jopadfoot]

What a brilliant, well researched and compelling video. Thank you for making this! My new favourite channel.

[@Shooshawali]

If they decide to *really* blow the TWD universe wide open and go in depth with all these characters’ different stories, then I have no problem with Rick not coming back for the finale of the original series. However, if they aren’t planning on concluding his storyline with Michonne/Judith, then what the hell was even the point of the show? From the literary standpoint, he just disappears in a very unsatisfactory way. And after Sadiq’s stupid death to the god-awful whisperer plot line, that basically ruined Carl as a “sacrifice for the greater good” death. I’m just frustrated that they seem to be bungling something that I’ve invested a lot of time in. Looking at you, GoT.

[@brianbardel482]

I'd love to see what if Walt and breaking bads cast was in the walking dead. "I AM the danger!" "You're fuckin' with the wrong people." Yes it's they're but it made more sense with you're. I'd love to see that shit. Would Walt be team Rick? Or have his own community and conflict with Rick? Could be so dope.

[@Son-Of-David1990]

On the last episode they should initially show it crumbled really bad then let all the words just poof into dust and fall or start sprouting flowers or something on it depending on which ending (sad or happy) we get

[@theavastark6463]

Don't want this show to end, but I understand why it has to

[@charlotte3794]

glad we got ten years of it at-least we have spin offs to wait for

[@braixy642]

The decline of The Walking Dead is tragic really. Frank's concept for the second season was a prequel to Season 1. He wanted to explain the beginning of the apocalypse and how the survivors got to know each other. AMC did not like this direction due to how big the budget would be. Eventually the creative differences caused AMC to fire Frank from the show and hire a new director for the series and ever since Season 2 the show has already started to fall downhill

[@jacobfaulk3465]

I’m pretty sure Left 4 Dead existed in The Walking Dead’s TV universe. Glenn made a comment about Portal in Season 2, both Portal and Left 4 Dead were made by Valve, so Valve exists in both shows.

[@raff23able]

This was brilliant I love the walking dead universe and avidly consume it all. Subscribed 🎉🎉🎉

[@monstersponge9096]

During that summer years ago where we were all waiting for the Negan cliffhanger to be answered, I heavily theorized that Abraham would be the one to be killed, not because of any of the points made in the video, but rather the short teaser for the next season that was shown immediately afterwards or in that very episode. Rick and the gang are all still in the lineup before Negan and Negan whips the bat over towards Rick from his right, the viewers left causing blood to spatter on the right side of Rick face. They showed the lineup order earlier in the episode, and Abraham was 2 people away from Rick on the right, but I knew it would be Abraham because the person in between Rick and Abraham was huddled over most of the time, while Rick and Abraham sat roughly on the same level as each other.

[@showingjewel9150]

Predicting the future and talking to the dead seems like Psychic behavior. Psychic Rick. Cool stuff.

[@veo16]

Walking Dead vs. Toy Story is hilarious.

[@tjallday95]

The writers have absolutely no idea what to do with Heath lol They just hope we forgot about him

[@avanicholson]

holy shit i forgot about him

[@itsleandertv]

When Yumiko saw her brother's note on the wall at the Commonwealth, you see another note that has the name Heath on it.

[@hernandez4856]

i literally just looked up his last appearance in the show and apparently it was season 10 episode 13 but i literally don’t even remember him being in that season at all.

[@meet-me-at-blue-diner]

I thought he died???

[@Buzzer_Bee]

Imagine in the last show in the walking dead franchise the last minute is Rick waking up from his coma and seeing his family is alive and had been waiting everyday for him to wake up

[@kingol4801]

“Good” ending Essentially Alice in Borderland stylr

[@kevinnaber790]

With the Vatos gang, it could be the Governor, but it’s more likely that the cops at Grady Memorial went to investigate gunshots near a skilled care nursing home. They would see the elderly patients as a waste of resources like they classified the female amputee or Carol, the gang would continue to try to protect their families, perhaps that is one of the extreme measures that lead to Dawn’s predecessor’s suicide.

[@miekgg]

these are the little things that killed this show. I’ve analyzed this show deeply since i was 6, and now im almost 18. Little things like the vatos gang were thrown away, into nothingness, when they could’ve been utilized. Nothing is perfect, tho there were so many mistakes that could’ve been easily avoided.

[@purplebanana6420]

Kevin naber it was the governor

[@sjonnieplayfull5859]

Interesting idea!

[@icrywhenisleep2130]

There are other groups out there not just Grady memorial cops I'm sure some people stayed in some parts of Atlanta the vatos even mention attacks from numerous people so anyone could have killed them not just the woodbury soldiers

[@kyleellis1825]

@@purplebanana6420 Nah, it was variants who could use guns.

[@drettigames127]

Man's bringing fire with this one

[@thething481]

A lot of zombie media (movies, comics, video games, shows, etc) reference the space spore. The walking dead has, the Romero films put blame on a space spore (the birth of the space spore reference), dead island referenced it, and the virus from dead space is quite literally a space based infection. It's always interesting to see how long lived this mode of infection has been used, expanded on, and referenced over the decades.

[@rissabiagi1570]

First video of yours I’ve watched. I enjoyed it overall-thank you! Some parts didn’t make sense to me at all, like Rick being schizophrenic (because that’s not how it works), but most else was pretty interesting. Appreciate you and the hard work you obviously put into this! 👍🏼🙂

[@Null64]

Would have loved if they did a episode where they went back to see what happened eventually to the Vatos and all those old people.

[@HoldTheory]

Yesss bro so true I was just thinking that

[@billclinton9995]

They had a deleted scene and then cut it out

[@Phoenix_2A]

They did in a deleted scene. All of them were wiped out.

[@GhostKinggKD]

@@Phoenix_2A wiped by what hordes in the city?

[@conorkiddell9245]

@@GhostKinggKD you know how at the end of season 1 the camp was overrun and amy died? There was a deleted scene in which rick and the gang returned to the vatos for help, and when they get there , they are all dead, with gunshots to the head. There was a novel about the governor and he was in atlanta at the time. So to answer your question, it wasnt hordes, it was implied the governor and his people wiped them all out

[@FighterOperationsGroupFOG]

I always thought Negans bat Lucille was based on B.B. Kings guitar names Lucille. And his song about it talks about his guitar Lucille always being by his side and getting him through tough times.

[@easysleepbcn]

Frank Darabont wanted to do 5 seasons of TWD, with less and longer episodes per season. Season 2 was meant to be 2-3 episodes at the farm, then another episode would have been a flashback episode of the guy inside the tank (from episode 1 season 1) which would have followed a squad of Army Rangers getting trapped in the city and trying to survive as Atlanta falls. The soldier in the tank dies and then after the soldier dies this squalid, lonely death, they would do a shot-for-shot reprise from the first episode of the first season: Rick comes scrambling into the tank to escape the horde.They wanted to include a group similar to the reapers in season 2 while searching for Sophia (I’m glad they didn’t). They also juggled with the idea…and that one is crazy…to kill Rick himself and have Shane lead the group. That would have been even more shocking that Ned Stark in season 1 of GOT 😱 Last one, Axel the prisoner from season 3 was meant to be a serial killer.

[@ryanelliott71698]

Where’d you get the 5 seasons bit from? I never saw that.

[@paulraines9635]

Axel being a serial killer would have been a great twist. I was disappointed when they fused Dexter and Thomas together.

[@ryanbeltran9413]

This actually would’ve been so much better outside killling Rick for Shane. I feel like many people wouldn’t like it because it would go away from the Comics, but I feel like they needed to make the show more formulated and had a clear ending. I do agree that you need to respect the source material as well, so hopefully we could’ve still seen the Governor and Negan if possible.

[@samson1973]

In a scene in early walking dead with the governor, michone was in his room and in the corner was a bag that had sheriff printed on the front which was the same bag that Rick gave them with all the guns inside. So I’m pretty sure the governor wiped em all out💀

[@michaelchirico6203]

Andrea carried that bag away from the farm when it got destroyed by the herd and clearly the governor got the bags with the guns in it with the word sheriff on the side when merle caught andrea and michone after the helicopter crashed in like season 2 or 3! Bro

[@kensh1r0316]

Rick: This isn't a democracy anymore...this is an Iceberg Thang! Daryl: Wut?🤣

[@Darbal]

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[@driftwoodsaint]

Great stuff, man. I think people may be confusing Easter Eggs with literal crossovers. Especially with the Breaking Bad stuff. The car, for instance. I didn't take it as a theory that it was the exact same car but the same or similar color, make, and model as an Easter egg. Same with the Jesse reference and the blue meth. I think many of the theories are absolutely plausible. Abe and Daniel is not even a stretch. I've always taken Abraham's reaction to finding the cigars as he immediately recognized the brand or quality that he was familiar with. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the skyline on the Rick movie promo is Philly and the bird/helicopter dream vision is in Charlotte.

[@TheCarpenterV]

Commenting as I'm watching. The hospital that Beth dies in is NOT the same one that Beta and the herd are at. You can see clear differences like the giant solid columns out front. They take place in two very different far away places. Did you forget that by the time they interacted with Beta that they had already driven much more north west than the Atlanta hospital that Beth was shot at?

[@yahairamedium4389]

Great presentation with super insights and cross references with these shows that had foreshadowed the real viral covid pandemic. Cheers!

[@daydreaming11117]

I thought the sound the zombies made in S1 was kinda funny. I'm glad they changed that. But I would've preferred for them to be faster. This was an amazing video. The BB easter eggs are insane! I hope they really make at least one film and that they incorporate the new zombie variant.

[@debbiewright5894]

There is a newer variant of them, and they are supposed to be faster one's!! There's a video of all the different variants, an the new ones, here on KZbin!!

[@someguy7629]

@@debbiewright5894 There's no new variant, it's the same one as in season 1 n stuff. But they are much more common (probably) in Eurasia.

[@JTD2001]

The floater zombie from season 2 was disturbing asf

[@krow1817]

If you were to do a future TWD ice Berge Video, one thing I noticed is in the beginning of the finale, Judith was in the hospital due to a gun shot, similar the beginning of the first episode were Rick was in the hospital due to a gun shot. Both shots were in almost similar areas, and both had someone barricade the door with a hospital bed.

[@ONI-GAMI]

BTW Sam being a zombie was suppose to be a spin off according to himself. He said he was gonna have a spin off where they would do flashbacks on Atlanta and show how he ended up in the tank, Director changed after season 1.

[@gamewriteeye769]

As a side note relating to this videos topic, I think an overlooked entry if it was on this iceberg would be the fate of what happened to the Fort our characters were talking about travelling to during season one and two. We never figured out what happened but it's theorized it went on to become the Sanctuary with the Saviors and that is how that other character reveal in season 8 takes place because he left the group in season one.

[@jaredcase5587]

About that…remember those two guys Rick killed at the bar in season 2? One of them mentioned that they heard from a soldier who’d been stationed there that the entire place had been wiped out by a herd. Sure those guys were sleazy but idk what reason they’d have to lie about that.

[@gamewriteeye769]

@@jaredcase5587 Hmm... hard to tell if those guys were former saviours and were lying or if they were telling the truth and they relocated to the factory we see in season 7. As far as I can remember, there was writing on a wall that hinted about the dead inside during the Morgan episode in season 3. Because Rick radioed Morgan about all of this, it's possible Morgan went to the fort and found out for himself that these things are everywhere, and you know isolates himself after.

[@thefiddler9295]

Cool theory but didn’t Glenn say he delivered pizzas?

[@Quaximo]

Abraham also was given a proper final scene with Eugene, saying that he was finally proud of him. This also foreshadowed his death as it gave a proper “goodbye” to their relationship.

[@kroom7k536]

In my opinion there are entirely too many survivors now. I always liked the idea that we are following rick because he would eventually lead a small group who was all that was left. Now it just feels random

[@killersauresrex]

One thing that's constantly repeated is that 'zombies' do not figure into the cultural dynamics of the TWD universe. Whatever may be of the comics, the TV series however clearly has some undead monster as a cartoon cut-out figure in Season 4, Episode 1"30 Days without an Accident" as Michonne and the group stake out a supply. She sees the cut-out and slashes it down. Granted it merely said 'Monster', but its clearly a zombie.

[@carlieramshur9767]

they had a zombie in the haunted house at the commonwealth too

[@PaintAndPlayWithJay]

The worst thing TWD done was take all of the threat out of the zombies until needed. Every season they would act like the walkers were a non-entity until the final episode when they needed them to chase them out of their place onto the new place. They should've kept the smart zombies all the way through, keeps the believability of them being a true threat that was big enough to overcome the entire country.

[@michellemuller8358]

I completely disagree that it would be more interesting to have had Maggie die and have Glenn go through the struggle of dealing with Negan. Comics have used fridging as a way to drive hero’s character development for years (starting with Green Lantern then Spider-Man, Deadpool, etc) and killing Glenn allows for a different perspective.

[@FernStone]

I agree !! though I'm still sad Glen died at all , that was such a shocking moment !

[@Doomseer]

After everything Jesse went through in breaking bad and his subsequent spin off film, only to then be caught up in a zombie apocalypse.. This man cannot catch a break!! 😢

[@theruiner4272]

2:07 In the comics (not just the video games), ppl like Glenn straightup calls them zombies for a few times. more times in the beggining than later on.

[@Some_Guy6]

The "super" zombies where much scarier then all the others. With the exception of the trash metal zombie Rick had to beat at the trash place. EDIT :In the trailer for Daryl spin-off, there are French words written in abunker type thing and it absicly says the wildfire virus started in France.

[@magnum1x188]

Idk if people have noticed it aswell. But I recently have been rewatching the walking dead, have you guys noticed that they’ve been hunting with the letter “A” since very early on in the series. I feel like they’ve been hinting it for the longest time yet it was always under our noses.

[@hxrryhpz]

OH MY GOD FINALLY!! W VIDEO 🔥😍

[@samthingshoots]

I don´t know if this is a theory, but I personally think there´s people (not only Rick) who can see the future. I remember in the first season there was a guy who started to dig a bunch of holes because he had a nightmare, next day a lot of people from his group died and at the end he said "Now I remember my my nightmare".

[@SkolProductions]

Yeah my boy Jim

[@notsolilguat6487]

U are right but I think that would be too supernatural for twd. Also think about it people were going insane in the apocalypse. It isn't a rare chance to be overrun in a zombie outbreak

[@samthingshoots]

@@notsolilguat6487 in a world where zombies exist, been able to have premonitions is too supernatural?

[@hernandez4856]

@@notsolilguat6487 you do know that there have been ‘supernatural’ occurrences in the show many time? that one time when carol literally saw a picture of her and her dead ‘kids’ on a cookbook then another one when rick was literally hearing his dead family

[@notsolilguat6487]

@@hernandez4856 those are hallucinations not supernatural occurrences

[@dziewiaty]

20:20 no thank you, I think Jes had it rough enough and you want to throw ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE on him on top whole Breaking Bad events, just let him live in Alaska and breed dogs or something.

[@jonathanjameson5050]

I'm really glad you brought up how they do say Zombie in the Comicverse.

[@tammyburton8268]

I don't think Rick's possibly being schizophrenic fits. What sounds like a better fit would be him living in his PTSD (yes possible), and having psychotic breaks. Psychotic break does not mean acting out and being crazy on people, but something that is very personal and irrational. His mind could also simply be overwhelmed and we are seeing his thoughts.

[@安弘西谷]

I bought the Dvds of the walking Dead because i love so much this movies ,ive seen it so many times but still watching again and again,loved this movie so much

[@yourfinalhiringagency3890]

The Vatos gang was the first and only group we’ve met with better morals than Ricks group. (Maybe the kingdom, Maggie’s settlements, Oceanside are all less selfless)

[@chrisgriff1971]

Keep up the good work. You've come a Long way.

[@steveevets7853]

Honestly I think u could still have some version of Breaking Bad play out in the walking dead universe, it'd just probably be interrupted by the outbreak though. That does make me think, say the outbreak happens in Heisenburg's prime, Walt in particular would be a very interesting character to watch. Assuming he and his family make it out into the Boonies and with society collapsing, Walt's secret would eventually be laid bare and despite it not mattering anymore, there'd probably still be tension, with Skylar and Hank in particular. Idk just spit balling

[@litneyloxan]

ugh I wish people would have waited until after the show ended to make all the in depth ice bergs

[@TWDproductions66]

glenn is a pizza boy not a car dealer

[@jtcustoms4297]

Speaking of the CRM, during the opening credits of season 9 we see the CRM helicopter. Also during the season 10 opening credits we don't see the helicopter, but in season 11 we do see it's return. Possibly the foreshadowing of how the CRM and the commenwealth know of each other, or it's maybe the tease that we probably will see Rick in the final episode.

[@gameclip6573]

giving me hope bro

[@iden4467]

Or could be a war between the two

[@chrisperalta5019]

The Sam witwer zombie isn't a days gone Easter egg. He was supposed to have his flashback scene in a later season that showed his character up to the point of him getting surrounded while in the tank. But they scrapped that idea because of the early director that left with dale

[@BackAlleyKnifeFighter]

Yeah, that one was one helluva reach to pad the video. AMC robbed Frank and Sam of that prequel season

[@charlotte3794]

wonder how different the show would have been if dales actor hadn’t left, he was probably one of my favourites at the beginning however i feel like his death adds a layer to the group for example dale when he was against killing the hostage and how killing people broke that bound that was fading in the apocalypse i almost feel like him as a character resembled that idea as a whole of morality and humanity similar of the theory that the orange backpack suggests sympathy) i think it’s safe to say him and glenn were the moral compasses of the group and when they died it almost could be signifying the loss of innocence or even morals that rick and the group were corrupted by (feel this links well with the idea that ricks actually the protagonist). i like to think judas brought that back in the group especially after carl passed.

[@ken9177]

almost 80k man good job. YOU deserve it. 👏🏾👏🏾

[@cristerosoul]

about the breaking bad and the walking bad timeline theory I like to think that in an alternate universe, breaking bad and the walking dead are in the same timeline, and the better call saul continuation is its timeline with the breaking bad universe alone.

[@kyliegomez5924]

I liked the Toy Story comparisons that was crazy but when you talk about Toy Story 4 it's just like season 4 with the group trying to go get back from the hospital. And Glenn was a pizza delivery guy

[@FatChicken56]

36:30 also on the ceiling you can read ''les morts sont nées ici'' wich means ''the deads were born here''

[@nilsmueller871]

Its not true that they never say Zombie. I dont remember the exact episode or season, but one time they are in a shop and there is a cardboard zombie and another time somebody actually says the word zombie randomly. Like i said, i dont remember when this was exactly.

[@Chris_M_Romero]

Well, this video was published 8 months ago, and it mentions _suggestions_ that Heath is at the CRM. Now, because of the _leaked_ material, we know he IS, indeed at the CRM, not only that, but his uniform is not a consignee uniform, so he has a superior rank. At least superior to consignees.

[@RoseannMcCabe]

I would love to see Jessie in a crossover, see how he's survived all this time post zpoch. ESpecially in the daryll and carol spinoff, daryll and jessie coming face to face again after the "janky white guy with a gun" incident

[@0subsWith0vidsChallenge]

Who is jessie?

[@pscribs8391]

@@0subsWith0vidsChallenge from breaking bad

[@0subsWith0vidsChallenge]

@@pscribs8391 but breaking bad and twd are different shows.

[@pscribs8391]

@@0subsWith0vidsChallenge but they’re both amc shows, its a theory that they might take place in the same universe

[@0subsWith0vidsChallenge]

@@pscribs8391 every piece of "evidence" that supports that theory is just easter eggs.

[@SchwererGustavThe800mm]

You missed one George, theres a deep theory that Rick is still in a coma at the hospital and that everything happening in TWD isnt truly real.

[@christophercamarata211]

basic

[@chloemackinly6762]

@@christophercamarata211 very basic. The story is actually Shane's dream

[@rosita3528]

Thats not a deep theory. Gimple already ruled that out

[@luket3452]

I don’t accept the explanation for why the word “zombie” isn’t used because in season 4 when they raided that grocery store there was a cardboard cutout of a zombie

[@ThomasJamesBeauchene]

A very informative video! I listen to many TWD KZbinrs and this one hits the mark!! I’ll definitely let you join my Zombie survival game post-Zombie outbreak