The Problem With Camera Bags No One Talks About.

[@GeorgeHolden]

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[@alexcortez3007]

As someone who shoots for a living, I gravitate toward roller bags which contain every single equipment I could possibly need for the shoot. I don’t worry about weight at all since I’m not carrying anything on my back and I almost always drive to the location. Plus, I’ve broken a few equipment due to accidentally dropping bags. Carrying everything in a roller is both safer and more comfortable.

[@lsmithcine2137]

yeah, i came here to say something similar. i also just implicitly trust the structure of my pelican rolling hard case more than any soft backpack. i also find that at the end of the day i have more energy for shooting because i haven't been literally carrying everything around like a pack animal.

[@danigonzalez4299]

Agreed

[@kami-gun]

that's what most pros do.

[@GregThurtle]

This is great until the venue has lots of gravel driveways 😂 Then my pelican roller becomes a liability 😂

[@rexgigout1472]

@@GregThurtle Thankfully, the Pelican 1510 does have sturdy, comfortable handles. 😉 And, when my feet get tired, I can use it as a stool or bench. 🙂 Seriously, though, it is nice to simply walk about with one lens, on one camera body, with a supple, adjustable strap that is long enough to be worn cross-body, and leave the bags and cases at home. There are times to go light, and times to bring the whole kit.

[@RhettegettBorshow]

I've just reached this point in my photographic journey this year after a couple of years of messing about with gear. My misguided thinking was that I want to take my camera everywhere, so I wanted to find a camera bag that can also function as a regular bag. This is where I was wrong. Camera backpacks are only really good for hauling camera gear, they aren't very functional beyond that. So just as I've decided not to bring a lot of lenses with me all the time I no longer need a bag that can carry all of that in an everyday scenario. That's a relief!

[@GeorgeHolden]

Great to hear!

[@ElementaryWatson-123]

I downsized to Sony A7Cii, just take one lens with it and put into my wife's purse until ready to use. That's why every photographer needs a wife for inspiration. 😅

[@elimayer193]

thats why as somebody who does video but sets all my stuff down wen on set, having a main brand camera bag makes sens for me, but for more run and gun street oriented or documentary stuff, i use a hybrid bag

[@RhettegettBorshow]

@@elimayer193 Absolutely, they are designed for work, but a lot of brands try to market themselves as lifestyle gear, which they simply aren’t

[@elimayer193]

@@RhettegettBorshow exactly, those main brand backpacks should only be used for carrying loads of gear to a set and then setting them down

[@JoshSherrill]

I think an often overlooked downside of camera bags is that they advertise that you are carrying camera gear. So depending on where you live or are traveling, it may put you at a bit higher risk of not only losing your camera gear but also your $400 backpack. Great video that really resonated with me!

[@bubblesculptor]

I had a carboard box that was packaging for case of diapers that fit my camera great, and used that in my vehicle for a while. Doesn't look like anything anyone wants to steal!

[@PerfectlyNormalHumans]

The type of thief that’s going to roll you for the belongings you are carrying doesn’t know what a camera backpack looks like and they don’t care. They will be more than happy to score a smartphone and your wallet. Whatever is in your bag is a bonus to them. Don’t wave your camera around in sketchy neighborhoods, but also don’t worry about your camera bag putting a target on you either.

[@Username-2]

⁠​⁠@@PerfectlyNormalHumansNot true at all. Snatch and grab thieves in larger cities know exactly what to look for. They’ll always pick a target with a nicer or more expensive looking bag/clothing than someone without. It’s very easy to tell a camera or gear bag apart from a cheap Nike backpack. Sure, homeless and addicts won’t know the nicer bag or care… but you’re underestimating the level of practice a thief that robs tourists all day has. They know what to look for and will walk around Times Square in groups all day just looking for marks.

[@Andrew-le3cw]

@@PerfectlyNormalHumans That's my thinking as well. Especially in my country thieves are not clued up on the different bags but opportunistic and will go for the easiest targets. The last bit is true for any country. The problem with photographers is that we make it easy for thieves by flashing things around and it's often because we aren't careful that we are targets. True is some cases we have no choice. As for the bag normal makeup bags make excellent camera bags and also keep it in your boot and not the car or else you not only lose a camera but also a window due to a meetup with a sparkplug.

[@qtrfoil]

@@Username-2 I completely agree. I cut off any tags on my bags just to blend in a little more.

[@louisrafaelcom]

Thinktank and LowePro have been my go to brands for over 15 years now - they've always stood the test of time for me and I've only changed things up to adjust the way I carry things (Rolling suitcase vs. backpack) and due to expansion of what I take with me because I've become a hybrid shooter. If you're not shooting professionally, any bag will do, but if you're shooting events and things that require quick access to different lenses, battery replacements and so on, you really shouldn't rely on a normal bag. In addition, it would be negligent of anyone to just throw $20k of equipment into a bag without proper protection between individual items.

[@SonoranAstro]

think tank is awesome! but i swear they discontinue so much rapidly

[@lescobrandon3047]

When i became a wedding photographer, i found a company making camera bags designed by pro photographers, Thinktankphoto. I never went with any other manufacturers.

[@xavierdjx]

I have lowepro bags for more than 20 years... and I don’t have his expensive peak design camera strap 😅😅😅

[@xXN0SK1LLZXx]

I just got a tarion satchel off amazon. 24 quid. Great padding and light as anything. Was looking at lowepro and they seem like a good budget option but my budget ain't that good ATM

[@internetquickie]

As someone who is into photography and coffee, I love the cutaway shots in the intro and yes both hobbies can be just as expensive...I chose poorly

[@GeorgeHolden]

Both expensive but both addictive

[@lidge1994]

@@GeorgeHolden One physically, the other psychologically!

[@batuhancokmar7330]

I also use camera bag/insert inside a normal backpack combination a lot. If I want more gear than usual, I put two camera inserts on top of each other and still have room for some snacks and a water bottle on top. One other "solution" for camera bags is knowing you don't even need a bag all the time. If I really want to travel light, a strap around the neck works just fine for me.

[@karmatraining]

I face a different issue: living in subtropical Australia, it rains OFTEN and it rains HARD, we get the edges of the monsoon troughs here so sometimes it will rain for 2 weeks continuously. And I'm on a bicycle. So I grabbed DECAMP watertight folding bag. It's actually designed for people who literally need to cross rivers during hikes, so it is airtight and made of really tough PVC. But it also has a laptop compartment and all that good stuff inside the watertight compartment. And obviously that's where my camera gear lives too. An absolute lifesaver.

[@danigonzalez4299]

Get a good camera bag

[@cromyjr1592]

@@danigonzalez4299and four times more expensive than what you are using now :))

[@tombaxter9108]

I'm in a similar spot. A good/solid camera/beach bag Zak Noyle RVCA camera backpack trust me on this you wont look back

[@evan]

I bring my PD everyday bag when I want to bring more lenses and my mic sure, but lots of times I just head out with a much smaller PD sling that fits my A7Iv and 50mm lens. Depends on what I’m capturing but I do really make use of all the lil pockets

[@paulbarnard5267]

Very similar combination for me. Big bag when travelling, sling when I get there.

[@GregInda]

I've had the same issues. But my biggest issue with camera bags is that... they are camera bags. They're specialized. They've got pockets for everything photography related, but often don't leave space for other items I need. That can be water, snacks, maps, hiking poles, first aid kit, etc. I find that outdoor bags conform better to accommodating photography kit than photography bags conforming to hiking and day to day kit. So I end up having two hiking packs. One is large for when I'm out on a long hike. One is small for small hikes and walking through cities. And then I have one photography bag from Think Tank that I consider my filing cabinet. I generally store gear in there and pull it out depending on what project I'm working on.

[@ian-robinson]

Shimoda cover the things you mention but as per usual they ain’t cheap.

[@Giles29]

They never have enough space even for the camera gear. I got a lot of use out of a fishing vest that I bought.

[@ouna2893]

Yeah. 😂 this is my dilemma. And I have kids with me, so I need to carry their snacks and drinks too. Hiking to a nice place wanting to shoot is a nightmare. Or travelling with gear plus kids. 😅

[@DDHDTV]

There are a few gems out there, which kinda make a split for all. Still they only fit stuff for a weekend away maybe, but how big would you want it? You're looking for bags with daypacks. Tneba Fulton v2 16L can be recommended, rockinga Lowepro Flipside AW350 myself, this one doesnt fit a laptop though

[@Randi-h5q]

I have the same dilemma too, when it comes to packing camera gear for expeditions, as I need space for other essentials too. Currently, I'm considering getting a 40L travel bag from decathlon and cutting strips of foam from an old yoga mat for additional padding in the bag.

[@PhotoTrekr]

First let me say that I'm as guilty as anyone of having purchased way more camera bags than I actually need. And this whole subject falls under the category of todays state of the art becoming tomorrows trash which is a pet peeve of mine. Just because something was made in the past, maybe even just last year, doesn't mean it's no longer useful today. But, as with any gear, find what works for you. And don't feel pressured to buy the latest and greatest just because it is the latest and greatest.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Agreed!

[@bimmerfan2126]

those Domke bags from 30+ years ago, still great bags

[@olekallovvild7295]

Yeaaaaaaah, that is why I purchased an insulated padded lunch bag and it works great $30.

[@LTHanlon]

I think either Stanley Kubrick or Gordon Parks carried a Leica in a lunchbag.

[@stevenmassey2276]

What an absolutely great video. I have a LowePro Tactic 450. Nice bag, but certainly limited. I fell for the "camera bag" hypnosis. I have two cameras, and am now delving into astrophotography, so something more simple is tantamount to success. Thank you for such a truly inspiring revelation!

[@malstanding]

I have had about 20 bags over the years and never thought of this. I have never been completely satisfied with any of them. Thanks for this video. I have a couple of inserts so I'm going to give this a try.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Glad to help!

[@maxbembel2962]

Often enough I use a regular daypack with an insert as my camera bag. However one problem remains: The camera is always at the bottom and whenever you put something else in your bag you have to reach below it to grab your gear.

[@nyc1164]

I did the same thing. But not only I carried my camera, I also had my gopro and it sits on top when I'm traveling. So I had trouble taking my camera out when ever I wanted to take pictures while traveling

[@billrudersdorf4187]

I’ve used diaper bags, a Hello Kitty branded bag, a trail running bag, but hardly ever a “camera bag”.

[@thomasuriarte3182]

Having a camera bag that doesn’t look like a camera bag! Very important piece of advice that a lot of photographers don’t think of very often. I ended of falling for the brevite marketing a couple of years back and got their black jumper. Love it for this purpose but I think I may even want to switch it up for a plain jansport or something comparable.

[@vandalpaulius]

I recently shelled out a nice sum for Shimoda x70HD and honestly it's an amazing bag that fixed a lot of my issues with regular bags - when I'm on a trail grabbing drone or batteries or anything else it became 10 second job instead of 5 minute shuffle that makes main bag part - the one that goes on your back to roll in dirt. IMO that's the main feature of camera bags - back opening instead of front + ability to fit a camera cube at the bottom, to keep all the heavy stuff down low.

[@ck7403]

Bought the ActionX50 v2 lately. What a great bag, love the materials and how smart it is organized! Im quite sure that it's gonna last long! 😊

[@bags2743]

I have a Shimoda 30 and it, too, is the best bag I've ever had. I've tried to talk the designer into making a sling or off shoulder bag, but he's sticking to what he himself likes most. Too bad. Bet a sling would sell.

[@bertramspielt]

Like most people with this passion, I also got a camera bag... And yes, it was a mistake. Now I carry my MFT since 3 years in a sort of courier bag without any brandname, equiped it with a little bag inside - like you do! Works perfect, I have my little set of gear with me, it feels good, gives faster access to the camera than a backback and is quite a safe way to wall through a city by night. Love it.

[@fintux]

I guess it depends also a lot on what you photograph. I photograph in the nature. I want a bag that does not let in water (doesn't need to be waterproof, but anyways), that I can put on the ground without worrying too much of a rock happening to be there and that I can quickly get the camera out of (it is not practical to carry the camera on you in the nature as you can too easily hit something, it can throw you off balance, and a heavy lens quickly is straining your neck). So I prefer a bag that opens from the back side. I am not also that organized person, so I want to have my bag do the organization for me, so I really find the compartments coming in handy. Most of these qualities are not provided by a typical bag, but a good camera bag has these all. Perhaps if I did e.g. street photography, I would have chosen differently. But I started out with a shoulder bag, and after switching to a camera bag, I've not looked back.

[@stew_redman]

This video hurts, because it's so true. I have bags made by Peak Design, Vanguard, Tenba and Benro. None of them are as well-made or as comfortable as the High Sierra (Samsonite) backpack I wear for work everyday. They also cost significantly more. It's very annoying.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Big-Camera lays traps for us all, I'm the same with so many accessories and so happy I randomly picked up my regular bag and stuck with it

[@MSUTri]

It's nice to see all the talk about messenger bags where you just throw an organizer or small bag in, or a tiny bag with room for just a couple things. They're liberating as a photographer, to travel light and carry other things you need too. I even sometimes just carry a spare battery and hat in a musette bag! I'm surprised I haven't read any comments about Domke yet. 50 years of basically unchanged production of durable, flexible canvas bags speaks for itself, I think. I've had an F-3X for nearly 20 years, and the adaptability it has is amazing. Protection and flexible, foldable dividers where you need it, pockets that you need, and nothing you don't. I've never had the need for any other camera bag on the go, for any camera from a GR II or Rollei 35S to a D3 or even Pentax 645. An RB67 or large format camera would be a bit much though. I eventually added a Domke F-2 for storage of gear I'm not carrying, but that's it. No more bags needed.

[@ArsenijeRadenovic]

Yes, Domke is for old school pros. They are not visible now lol I love messenger bags also, especially because you can use them as everyday messenger bag with just removing the lens compartment. I my first every bigger bag was Vanguard messenger bag and I got it back in 2015. And it still perfect except the velcro part. I used it and abused it, and it can carry a lot of gear. People get hooked on getting new and shiny things...

[@PatternRecognitionMusic]

F-5XB here, just a nice, clean, well made bag that isn't cumbersome. Only thing I'd change would be the velcro.

[@caerphoto]

Yep, completely agree that a regular 'outdoors' bag plus maybe a soft insert is the way to go for probably most people. I don't need to carry a ton of photography stuff, but I do need to carry other things like a raincoat, food and water, keys, wallet, maybe whatever I buy that day if I visit some shops, and so on. A 30-ish litre bag is plenty for single-day outings.

[@justinmcdonald4822]

My first proper camera bag is the only one I need. It's built out of thick canvas, real leather, and has an interior of foam padding and what seems to be thick cotton. It wasn't expensive either! Less than $50!

[@youritguy1]

Love this video. I don’t have camera bag just a heavy duty backpack with similar pockets. This has been my bag for everything and I love it. So glad that I’m not the only who use a backpack as their camera bag. Great video.

[@FilmBrain]

My main camera bag is a Lowepro one with a rather unique design. It is a three way pouch, but the expanding top unzips into a regular backpack, so it's best of both worlds. Sometimes, I don't even use the camera part for gear, but just storing away items if I need to. I think I got it for £25. I always aim for sales, bargains and clearances and think of practicality to keep my spending in check.

[@chrishowell5718]

Given that Lowepro is an offshoot of Lowe Alpine, I'm not sure I'd pigeonhole them as a 'camera bag only' company in the way that George does here. I tend to use a triangle-shaped 'holster' type Lowepro bag as my main bag: big enough for my GX8 plus standard zoom plus another small lens, and because I use m43 kit any other lens I want to bring along are small enough to put in a pocket.

[@tomwilshaw]

Amen. It feels like we’ve been down exactly the same road, I’m so guilty of having spent serious £££ on camera bags in the past, but my main issue has always been - what if I want to pack something, that’s not photography related…? Coffee making gear, a few clothes, fishing stuff… None of it really translates well to fit inside of a camera rucksack. So, like you, my go-to is now a fairly standard hiking bag, with a soft packing cube.. thing… with my camera kit in :) so liberating. Great vid man! Loved it ❤

[@rexypoooo]

Ever since I started shooting on a Leica M in the middle of the year, I was obsessed with finding the smallest camera bag that is both functional for quick on location access yet pleasing to look at. I settled on a genuine leather sling bag which hold two M bodies, and usually an additional medium format folder, as well as an extra M glass. And the bag is still extremely compact comparing to a standard laptop bag. But for my travel in December, I wanted something even more slim for street photography, so I started using my Tumi crossbody bag as my walk around camera bag and it was life changing. I can still hold a M3 with a collapsible lens, a Mamiya SIX, one additional M glass, and I would wear my digital M as I walk around. Other auxiliary items I kept in the bag is a battery bank, chap stick and a pro-mist filter, as well as extra roll of 120 film. It was everything I need for a day of photography, no more no less, it truly put your focus purely on taking photos than anything else.

[@steveh8658]

A TUMI bag? ... OMG! Those prices are horrendous! I have to have one... ;-)

[@trainwithcharan]

finally someone said it lol the best bag ive ever owned is a 5.11 tactical bag. ive had for about 11 years and ive taken it to war and its still going strong. and yes it holds my tripod and tons of camera gear

[@christophernation4793]

I was the photographer on a mad trip in the Indian Himalayas. I had a Nikon body, various lenses inc 500mm mirror and a bunch of misc bits and pieces. The whole lot were simply dumped in a canvas bag, no compartments, all banging about against each other, just a zip closure along the top. Coming down a mountain, on a sunny south facing slope covered in crotch-deep snow, a tennis court size patch detached itself and started racing downhill with me standing in the middle of it. A tree - the only one on that slope - stood with just the top part sticking out of the snow, the lowest branch only a couple of feet above the snow. By great good fortune I passed close enough to grab the branch as I rocketed, now on my back, down the mountain. The branch bent all the way round to the other side of the trunk and then whipped back. The canvas bag shot over my head, smashed into the trunk, and back into my face. The mini avalanche went racing on. My mates were very surprised to see me. The Nikon body had a small dent on the prism housing, the lenses were a bit scuffed but everythng still worked perfectly. These days I buy £20-30 canvas all-purpose shoulder bags, small for 1 camera, two lenses and medium for a bit more kit. The gear being M4/3 has transformed my camera carrying life and thus the photography. Who needs all that padding?

[@UlyssesAokiPhoto]

Hey George! Hope you're doing well. This was such a great video! I never use camera bags for similar reasons... - Camera bags look awful - When they're designed with compartments, you can't fit normal, other stuff in it - They're too expensive for what they are. Even Peak Design to me feels cheap, and they are actually flimsy. Just to name a few! As you said, just get a camera compartment with a bag you enjoy 🎉

[@GeorgeHolden]

Hey Ulysses! You too mate and thank you so much. Completely agree, the second you scale it down and get back to basics things just work so much easier. Glad to get my pedantic thoughts out into a video 😅

[@Anon54387]

@@GeorgeHolden One of the most expensive hobbies ever. Those who own and drive race vehicles are laughing across the nation right now, not to mention those who fly RC aircraft or build model train layouts. Photography is only expensive if one chooses to make it so. A kit Canon set up will do one quite well, and it is far better than the masters of the past had but they achieved great results. If Ansel Adams were alive now he'd find all this carping about gear odd to say the least.

[@joits]

Some of those camera bag's compartments can be re-arranged so that you can in fact, fit other normal stuff in it.

[@JP4drumsFarrell]

GoScope Alpha Go CASE - Hard case Compatible with Sony Alpha Camera-- Purchased new 23 bucks no shipping. My favorite onesie

[@paveltvrdy5030]

I absolutely love Fstop bags, mainly for the opening through the back and the different sized insert cubes system. This I see as the main advantage of a photo specific backpack, you just slap your backpack on the ground and there it is, all your gear easily accesible, while hard to acces for pickpockets. Invaluable for the likes of landscape photogs for example who use more gear. In saying that, when I dont need all and can work with a small backpack, Im sporting a Decathlon one with said insert :D

[@ainzooalgown7589]

when i started photography, i used to gravitate towards backpacks due to using DSLR and big fat white lenses, at first i used vanguard backpack with sling option but the sling option wasnt used much due to DSLR with fat white lens made it heavy and uncomfortable, after a while i switched to a full black military surplus backpack with molle, it was quite comfortable but it make me want to try carry all the what if gear even adding small molle bags to the outside for filters, batteries and so on, but a few years ago i got my first mirrorless a Fuji XT10 and started gravitating towards smaller slings at 1st it was Crumpler sling then lowpro passport sling but still found it a bit too big for 70% of the time when i only need my camera a 18-55mm and maybe 1-2 prime lenses be it a 200mm or a 40mm, the extra spaces made it feel bulky then i switched to smaller sling bags from non camera manufacturers but found that when i wanted to travel and go the scenic route the small bag made it difficult for me carry snacks and a water bottle but it fit well in the passport sling and Crumpler. however i still found that due to it only having one strap, my shoulders get sore after a several hours, couldnt find a bag that meet my needs until a few months back when i saw K&F 2in1 backpack sling, when i only want to do simple photography, i use the sling option but one scenic hikes i can unzip it and transforms into a backpack allowing me to snacks and drinks and since its a backpack it eliminated the single strap digging into my should like the passport sling.

[@nofreewill1]

After watching this I’ll stick with the backpack I have and continue to throw my camera into my winter hat 😅

[@lovcovru]

ahaha same bro. but im using red hat for that)

[@darkphotographer]

i have a low pro 20years , is back pack with laptop sleave , use it when i need lot of stuff , but i also use a simple big tool bag from stanley , but most of the time i use a simple messenger bag ,

[@TheArtist441]

For general walkabout photography I honestly just take grocery bags, often double them up so it won't tare and drop my camera to the ground. Then I take the camera out when I start shooting and put it back when I'm done. No need to walk around with bags that scream out there's expensive equipment in there or otherwise draw more attention than needed! Also, those make for very inexpensive camera bags!

[@rogerbradbury9713]

Jane Bown used to turn up for portrait assignments with a couple of Olympus OM1s (I think) in a shopping bag; you are in good company.

[@martinlemke4440]

Very nice video! I absolutely agree with you. I'm using an insert with a standard bag because it's less noticeable that I'm carrying my photo stuff around.

[@imseeno]

When I first started out in this hobby, I definitely got caught up in buying a bunch of different accessories for photography, a bag included, before I even knew what I actually needed. Luckily I purchased a cheap, non major brand bag from Amazon to store all the stuff. Then after I actually got to know what my photography likes and dislikes are, I realized that having all that stuff is unnecessary. I sold my camera (Fuji X-T30), gave my lenses to my wife (cause she has the same camera body too), and I bought a more compact camera (Fuji X100V). Now, I just carry the camera in my work bag along with my folders and stuff. The camera bag I bought originally is just sitting in the closet along with the accessories I only used once or twice.

[@PrisonJunky]

All my camera bags and back are Lowepro. All bought used saving money for camera accessories.

[@jellomello124]

I did the exact same thing. Premium backpacking bag with the same peak designs insert. I can fit an A7C, 24-105, a go pro and a mavic mini 3 in the insert without any trouble. Best decision I've made. Works great for traveling.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Awesome!

[@andriyurenov7215]

I thank myself I have found your channel. Love your sense of humor and point of view on most things. Same thoughts on the bags. Cheers from Kyiv

[@El-ahrairah-lc3tg]

Sometimes I wonder why I got into photography with how much it cost, I know my wife is thrilled about it 😂 But yea I’ve had several bags I’m disappointed in. Tried sling bags, super no go and sticking to backpacks. I think the new Shimoda ticks all my boxes, I was thinking about designing my own bag for a min, might still do that

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's awesome!

[@danc3693]

It isn’t an especially affordable hobby but it becomes less expensive when one is honest with themselves about want vs. need.

[@megamastah]

Yeah, Shimoda peaks my interest as well. A cross between hiking backpack and a camera one. Pull out the divider compartment and boom, you got a standard backpack. Pricy though.

[@jerryh8417]

When I was young in the 1980's, I owned a big Temba bag that screamed "pricey photographic equipment inside". After leaving the hobby in the 90's and early 2000's, I just utilize a 30-liter JanSport backpack designed for day hikers after my return around 2006 to digital photography. Sometimes I have holster bag over my camera bodies, sometimes not. The spare lenses are kept within neoprene sleeves in the backpack. That being said, I do have a couple dedicated camera bags for storing my equipment at home, but they were freebies from several online retailers. If they weren't given to me at no cost, I doubt I would have gone out to purchase a dedicated camera bag. It has been my belief for many, many years, that keeping a low-profile while out shooting is the way to go. Why make yourself a target for thieves, or at the very least, draw attention to yourself from possible subjects.

[@gerryphilpott9766]

Thanks, this just confirmed my decision recently to get the Gregory 20L backpack with contour backpanel as far more comfortable and fitted than any camera bag I've owned (not as young any more), and much cooler in the SoCal heat that we get some times. I either returned or sold the other packs for the very reasons you described. And mostly I'm down to a camera only or one extra small prime unless I do hikes or longer city walks. I'd like to find the smaller insert that you showed, do you have a recommendation of two where to get an inexpensive one?

[@Pixnstoriz]

Totally true. The best combo is to stay light: one camera/one Lens. I like having a sling around the shoulders for an optional Lens, film, or a point and shoot camera. When not possible, a simple back pack and a cube is the best option for me too to protect my gear.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Great!

[@prizepictures1]

Nice video and with practical advice. I agree the smaller setups get more rotation. Are you big on weather proof bags? What about zippers? What are some of your deal breakers? Personally I’ve been through about 3 backpacks until I settled on the Manfrotto Street Slim. As far as smaller shoulder bags I’ve been through about 5 or 6 and decided to keep the Topo Designs Quick Pack and Tamarac Deroche 5. And finally I’ve tried about a dozen waist bags or Fanny packs and kept the 5.11 Tactical V6. I kind of enjoyed the process of finding what works for me despite the cost. I did give away or sold some of the ones that weren’t keepers. I like variety but I do have limits. YMMV. Thanks for a great video with a relevant topic.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks! And I have a waterproof cover I throw over my backpack, stores nicely in a front pocket and they're cheap to replace. Better than any material a bag may use in construction!

[@JikoMuskato]

I got myself a nice dedicated camera bag that was still affordable, the Flyht Pro Gorilla Camera Backpack. As far as I understand Flyht is a house brand by the music store Thomann but those can actually sell stuff for cheaper than most "big brands" by directly importing and selling. But yeah - before that I was using a Lowepro for many years until the laptop compartment zipper broke. But I also have smaller bags like the ones with shoulder straps if I prefer to carry a smaller setup.

[@JMurph2015]

I disagree. The only problems i have with my Peak Design Everyday Backpack is that its harness is not great and that it isn't _the most efficient_ at packing camera gear together. It also pads the entire shell of the bag whereas usually I only need like 60% of the bag to be padded. Apart from those issues, it's one of the nicest bags I've ever owned (and I've had a lot over the years). It uses *much* sturdier nylon fabric for the outer than almost any outdoors bag will (due to weight tbh), so I would recommend it more to my clumsy friends than some of my ultralight hiking/backpacking bags. Moreover, none of my outdoors bags have the unique side access that makes getting your camera out so easy from that bag. I do use an insert with them sometimes anyway, but it's much more of a hassle because all of Canon's new lenses are really chunky, so inserts that can hold them are also chunky, and so they tend to be quite difficult to get in and out of a normal backpack (if you can make it fit at all).

[@antonkudris]

I've owned a Peak Design bag for less than 3 years. Because while it looks gorgeous new, the quality of materials suck. It wears down really quickly. Won't ever buy again.

[@christophmuller3511]

PD is very good at making fancy clever compartments and stylish designs but their carrying systems sucks, the bags fail at being a good bag for long hikes.

[@Lukas_Seidl_1]

I had a peak design bag and while it was okay the straps and weight distribution in general just sucked when wearing it for longer periods. Everything over 1-2 hours was just a chore. I went back to an osprey bag and like it much more.

[@theronwolf3296]

I customized the interior of a waterproof hardcase designed for carrying test instruments etc. (available from tool supply houses). I can scramble over boulder fields, not worrying if I smack the case on a rock or drop it into a stream.

[@markielinhart]

Yup, I’ve been through the same mill George. The thing about camera bags is that that’s what they are and as you said, in the wrong part of town or on the wrong late night train you are a target. Currently I’m using a scruffy cross body messenger bag with an insert. This takes my mft camera/lens combo plus batteries, filters etc plus a wallet and other stuff. No tripod rather ibis and a steady(ish) hand or two…✌️🌻🇦🇺

[@GeorgeHolden]

So interesting you find that experience the same, thanks for sharing!

[@matthiashaverland1730]

Glad to see that you found your way. I love my overpriced PD backpack back and I want to miss it for the world on my travels. And so far, my oh so obvious expensive camera bag hasn’t put me into any dangerous situations, for years…

[@rumrill5020]

I often go with a camera cube inside of a generic Jansport backpack.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Smart!

[@Kickboxritter]

as a motorsport photographer I felt in love with the bevis gear camera bag, it's the only one they make, they started with Kickstarter and I'm really happy with it, simply because I can just swing it around to the ground and completely open the back to take things out, change lenses or whatever without having to put the bag in the ground (motocross tracks, lots of dirt you know...)

[@christophontheweb]

You touch on a very valid, not often talked about aspect where optimizing for a specific purpose goes too far and decreases the overall utility of a product. Good call-out.

[@jerazi3936]

Love your thoughts of truth. I saw this video while drinking my morning coffee - and then at second 38 I suddenly laughed loudly - now everything is clean again.

[@icogicog8287]

I think your point is well taken and has merit, but, as everything else in life, with caveats. Done what you are doing (and still do it sometimes. It works but attention needs to be paid as scratching gear is quite possible (resell value going down). For long haul travel the convenience of organizing stuff is relevant. For those of us who venture in place where weather and conditions are challenging, I found the bags I use quite helpful. In urban environments I agree that one can get away with just about anything. Thank you for your thoughts!!

[@HunterMann]

I’m a big fan of multi use bags that serve several functions. One of my favorite pieces of luggage for travel was a brand I think called otter Creek or Beaver Creek or something. I think they’re made in Oregon. It was such a great design, it was a rolling suitcase that fit in any overhead band of an airline and even under the seat riding on a train. This rolling suitcase converted into a backpack and then when I would get somewhere and check into my hotel room, it had a small smaller day pack that I could detach from the luggage and use that for day trips. It was in that day pack, but I kept my camera lenses filters and it even had room for my lunch and a bottle of water. Pretty cool to be able to go out for the day in Madrid or Paris or Mexico City or New York City or San Francisco and just shoot photos and not have to go back to my hotel room or having the option of not eating at an expensive café, and I wasn’t having to brag a rolling suitcase around wherever I went. I know most people can’t do it, but if you’re ever going to do around the world trip, I highly suggest that you travel with just two bags one that fits in the overhead and one fits under the seat that way you travel only with carry-on, you never have to check luggage, that can be a disaster if you are doing a short layover and your checked luggage goes missing temporarily. yes, I realize some airlines are now charging for carry-on luggage, but I mean… If you have enough money to do around the world flight you can probably afford baggage fees.

[@ablesentry7070]

I have a tiny, snug Lowepro bag for my Fuji APS-C, then put that in a Karrimor Taurus backpack with pockets. The internal pockets hold any filters or spare batteries. It's a low weight, low-profile package. Beside that, it makes me look like a daytripper, when matched with a fitting street "persona"... Gets the job done, all for less than £50 :)

[@jessedameron7985]

Wow. Solid points. For someone with a gimbal, mic, tripod, camera, lenses, and a rig, it's a bit heavy for me to carry in a backpack. I'm looking into lightweight roller bags. If I'm only moving it short distances, I want the ground take on the burden of weight.

[@rosenfeld68]

Many years ago your gear was huge and very heavy. I’m talking about a Nikon F2 with motor and all lenses. I used an old Tenba, and bought another one, and another. One day I needed special padding and dropped by Tenba in NYC Soho. They were so nice, specially worked for me, handmade all I needed and with a smile. I will stick to that brand for life.

[@epicnova2010]

As a full time working professional photographer. I spend most of my money on "good enough" gears, like A7 III A7IV, sigma, Tamron Lens. cuz they are good enough. For camera bag, I just use some no name but good quality laptop backpack, and a $20 fishing multi pouch waist bag, yes, a fishing bag for all the accessories and quick access for 1 extra lens. They all work fine. I am not saying premium bag is bad, I am just saying you really don't have to have this. My shutter count is more than 400,000, these "good enough" gear serves me well.

[@spaceman70]

Thank you! You've confirmed the direction I was considering - a regular backpack with a gear organizer shoved into it. I've been searching for a new camera bag but haven't found anything that really fits what I want. As you said, a bag that says Lowepro or Manfrotto kind of scream "expensive gear inside". Ironically, years ago someone suggested Billingham bags, but there's a bit of irony for paying a high price for something low-key.

[@CharlieAI87]

I create content on-the-go for the agency I’m with. I’ve been mulling the idea of getting a legit bag - but haven’t since I’ve been using the small bag in a big bag method. I thought I was the only one - but it really is a tried and true way to be out and about with a lot of gear. Plus when I’m not working I use the bag for normal travel use.

[@GeorgeHolden]

Go for it!

[@themotorsportfanaticyt]

As a college student who has only just started photography (about a year in) I just use a bridge camera. Gets rid of the stress of different lenses and since I mostly shoot when there's light out, I get pretty fantastic shots. And it just lives in a padded compartment my normal bag came with and any additional batteries or memory cards go in another compartment. And still have space for my tablet, bluetooth keyboard, power bank and tiffin

[@bwc1976]

I love how you edited together clips of fancy camera gear and fancy coffee gear, they can both be expensive obsessions! And I'm also a fan of the Camp Snap, although I'd love it even more if there wasn't a half-second shutter delay. Also I still have and love my Lumix GX7.

[@Sundayinthelife]

My daily carry is a Chrome Bike Messenger bag with a padded insert or two. I usually carry one camera and a couple lenses, batteries, and sometimes filters. The chrome bag was a gift(they're very expensive) and so before that I carried a "Falcon"(off brand chrome) for many many years before it fell apart on me. Serves me well and I only use something bigger when I'm going on a more professional shoot where I need more gear. Also, I love the beautiful, cinematic buildup to a spit take. Top quality!😂

[@GeorgeHolden]

That's cool and thanks!

[@Stephen.Bingham]

I keep my gear in half a dozen small bags - mainly “holster” bags. When I’m going out I grab those bags I need. Often I have one or two bags accessible by wearing them across my body, and perhaps a third bag containing equipment I use less often in a rucksack. I also often put them in the top of a large “messenger” style shoulder bag that also fits on the front of my bike. I’m not sure I’m the most fashionable of people, but it’s a very practical and flexible system (and also quite cheap)!

[@DigitalN]

I ended up using my old snowboarding/skiing Darien backpack and it's pretty fantastic. It has a sleeve for a laptop, two hooks on the side that are meant for ski poles but work great to hold a tripod, and 1 compartment with microfibre inside meant to keep goggles but they fit a second lens if I want to bring one with me.

[@danekilstrup]

Your stories/videos are so spot on! You really make a compelling point for what most of us are thinking a good deal of the time, and if we’re not, well, you steer us in the right direction. Cheers for having common sense and being able to convey it to others. In a sea of nonsense you really are informative and entertaining. Thanks for all the hard work you put in!

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thank you so much!

[@waygone6657]

Excellent video. I've been using a common no name brand backpack with a camera insert for quite a few years now for all of the same reasons mentioned here. I'm not a pro but I travel a lot and quite often in tourist places where some bad people will hang out to take advantage of the tourists. In such cases I don't want to announce to the world that I'm carrying expensive camera gear. My typical gear is one or two full frame bodies, a 28-300, a 16-35, and a 1.4 or 1.2 50mm pro quality lenses, and a compact 15m flash. My backpack has a laptop sleeve if I need it, lots of pockets for batteries and cables a stuff and all packed up it is only half full leaving room for lunch and or light shopping. I took it to a shoe repair shop and had a sleeve sewn on the back to slide over the passenger back rest (sissy-bar) on my motorcycle if I go that way. I also had all of the seams and straps double stitched. I think I have about $75 into it. I've been through 4 high end bags so far including Lowepro and Monfrotto, They all have their plusses and minuses but my self adapted generic backpack is the best so for.

[@eikotehgrowingmouse]

Just picked up the PD everyday 30L...im happy, holds everything i need and my 16.5" 3k laptop... Im using it as my travel bag. I just bought a bag insert for my regular backpack when Im just roaming. I grab lowpros from the thrift store for cheap to hold extra gear. Its all about deciding its use case.

[@SonnyGreenwichJr]

Dr Holden, so good to see you! Great video as always! Happy Holidays from chilly & festive Ireland! ☘💪🏽👀👍🏽☘

[@GeorgeHolden]

Thanks Sonny! Back at you, happy holidays from Manchester!

[@bustedbehera]

This is such a great video, saved me from going for an expensive compact camera bag pack when I already have a peak design cube which i can just toss into any good quality compact bag pack

[@GeorgeHolden]

Glad it was helpful!

[@NL4915]

This is exactly why I got a Bellroy sling bag for my XT-5 instead of a proper camera bag (I do have the Profoto backpack for professional work gear). I want great construction, minimal size, and the ability to take everything I need with me in one bag. Another thing I would suggest is using a cheap padded insert in any regular backpack for camera gear (I have one and move it between bags depending on what I need to bring with me).

[@ReeceEasthope]

I just recently bought a new camera bag, and it was a little over the shoulder satchel-style camera bag which fits one camera and an extra lens, this fits inside my North Face backpack which I switched to a few years back. It has so much to offer that my ‘camera bag’ backpack didn’t!

[@yasso2031]

strongly agree with this honestly. I am looking into getting a bigger "camera" bag for my freelance video work since i have to bring a lot more stuff. but if i'm going out to just shoot photo's all i need is my camera and 1 maybe 2 primes that i bring in a cheap sling bag which is purely there for safety because the whole time the camera is really just in my hand.

[@MrGohunter]

I currently have a Billingham bag and a couple of other bags. However, a few years ago I bought a very nice canvas messenger bag, which wasn’t padded. It cost me £20. AlI did was buy some 1” thick foam plastic from the local market and for under £25, I had a very nice camera bag! Still got it!

[@Zlin0035]

this is why I like wandrd Prvke series, they can be both camera bag and just a normal bag, i use it for hiking when i dont even have a camera. best of both worlds.

[@TheCreateOutdoors]

As a filmmaker and photographer, I really only use my camera bag for video as there is a lot of equipment to carry, however I have moved to waterproof cases instead. I still like to have my camera bag for when I fly though. I have thought about doing a more discrete bag like you mentioned, and I might still do that.

[@mikewright9378]

Riding the train from my house into Tokyo while watching this clip with a 20l Fjallraven bucket bag holding a think tank camera pouch for a single full frame , a 50mm prime, and a lens brush I couldn’t agree more. I even have that same peak design 20l but still find unless I’m carrying a few pieces of equipment out into the world the simpler setup is easier to carry and make me get more creative with my shooting

[@ViewportPlaythrough]

my personal observation is that the problem is not really the bag but the mindset of bringing all of your gear in the thought that you might need them. i have seen lots of photographers carry tripods and never use them, bring huge bags filled with lenses but just use the handy zooms. bring macro lenses or wide adaptors just in case. filters just in case. flash/lighting equipment just in case. multiple bodies just in case.. for client work, sure. bring everything you have to bring and even rent in what you might need. but for non-client work?....

[@zjohn6879]

This video definitely resonates with my recent revelation that a pair of computer headphones cost at least twice as much if you slap a "gaming" label on them! I like that little sling, looks perfect for my needs and also doesn't scream "camera"

[@GeorgeHolden]

Yeah another great example with gaming! Same for keyboards I feel 😅 and yes the Uniqlo is a great option for everyday carry

[@itzfinka]

3:39 anyone know what lense this is ?

[@GeorgeHolden]

Sony 20mm f/2.8 apsc

[@takiTCG]

I use a cross-body bag from the brand Finisterre. Beautiful materials (they’re a b corp that makes all sorts of outdoorsy clothes and bags from recycled fibers) and it’s the perfect size for me to carry my X-E4 with a prime attached, another prime if I feel like it, a small 16 oz water bottle, my pocket journal, kindle, sunglasses, etc. Even fits my iPad Air if I think I might need it! The removable, padded camera insert gives it the perfect amount of customization with highly functional pockets, too. If you’re looking for a low-profile day bag for a minimal camera carry but you still need some other “stuff,” I can’t recommend it enough!

[@WineWorldTV]

I got a Swiss Army backpack almost 20 years ago. Not for photography/videography at first. It was an urban backpack to use to bring stuff to and from work living in a city. Once I got into the world of videography I found it was the perfect bag for what I do. I went through a phase where I kept looking at camera bags because that's what all the photography KZbinrs said I need, but I always came to the same conclusion. Camera bags suck, backpacks rule. So I still use it to this day. I can literally fit everything I need to do a 3 camera (iPhones) interview and still have room to spare. For regular travel, the rest of the gear I need, the stuff that stays at the hotel, goes into it. Except for especially bulky things that go into a carry-on.

[@MrShaft70]

I fully agree with you. An ordinary rucksack can be used in many different ways to carry a camera and lenses or even shopping for dinner. The carrying system is often much better. (e.g. from Deuter) Simply pack an extra protective bag for the camera. I think it depends on what you want to do. There is no such thing as a super rucksack. I bought my photo rucksack second-hand (peak design). And you wonder what you can buy second-hand and many things are hardly used. and for a good price. Thank you for your contribution. I love watching your videos.

[@GeorgeHolden]

There all rounder bags are always the way for me! And thanks!

[@danigonzalez4299]

You have some points here buy overall also no, mistaken. Everyday bags wuality usually is effortless about carrying a lot of weight in your shoulders and separating lenses from each others. I have had the same dilema as you do. But having 2 DSLRs with grip and at least carry 3 zooms (17-50, 50-135 and 150-450 or 100-300mm) and laptop and cables in a separate bad (cabin size trolley) i would say there is a BIG difference between a bag and a BAG. When you are at the races walking miles a day, you need a proper bag and very good at water repealing as your gear is inside. For a casual walk, no problem. But if a storm catches you, good luck! That happened to my dead 5DMKI. A crucial part when working and walking, of your health is in your camera bag. Because it has to distribute the weight you carry properly. Otherwise your back and your feet will suffer. I know that by experience. Invest in a good proper camera bag when it comes the chance and forget middle and super tiny bags that can only carry one piece of gear. If you, like me, carry so much stuff around, get a good one. It pays off over time

[@danigonzalez4299]

Plus Good bags have the opening in the back and you are less likely to be robbed anywhere and regular bags open front instead, and so on.

[@danigonzalez4299]

Harnesses use to be bad even in high end regular bags too

[@GeorgeHolden]

Agree to disagree

[@grechan]

Good advice here. I carry a Wandrd Prvke 31 as my airplane carryon as i can carry my laptop, camera(s), lenses, nc headphones, etc in one solution. On arriving at my destination though I shift to a daypack + sling solution. Right now these are the Osprey Daylight or Wandrd Veer + Wandrd Detour with inflatable camera cube. Superb solution allowing me to bring a body and a lens and, as is pointed out here, take more pictures.

[@trekkeruss]

My first and only bag is the Peak Design Everyday Messenger bag, which suited me for what I had at the time, just one body and two lenses. I bought it used; no way would I ever pay retail for it. I still use it, but now it is used mostly to carry overflow accessories; microphone, flash and transmitter, cleaning supply, etc. Now I use a Nanuk wheeled hard case, which I use to transport my gear from gig to gig (I do concert photography). I prefer the extra security of it, and being wheeled I don't have to struggle with the weight.

[@linjicakonikon7666]

I have 2 Leather Ona Prince Street bags for my Nikon Fs and Three Domke Ruggedwear F803 bags for my Canon VT Deluxe rangefinders. For my Linhof 617s Technorama and Fujica GW690 I use an old Tenba Medium Shootout backpack. Heavily but ultimate protection I've arrived at these choices after 50 years of photography. Everyone is different and as we evolve we discover that there is no one perfect camera or bag. Thankfully because I love cameras and I love bags.

[@ZakiWasik]

Wandrd Prvke is the perfect backpack for me. I use a half camera cube, so the problem with rigid camera comparments that don't allow you to use the bag for non-camera things is solved. But on the other hand it has tons of small specialised compartments for batteries, SD-cards, a lined pocket for glasses or a cellphone, separate compartments for both a laptop and an iPad, it does not look like a camera bag, but it does still have a quick access pocket to grab your camera. Even with the half camera cube, you can pack a very good amount of gear. Often I have my Sony A7 RIV, Tamron 28-75, Tamron 17-28 and Sony 70-200 F4 in that little half-cube with space to spare. Another things that is a huge plus is that my previous camera/laptop bag had the laptop compartment on the outside away from your body. This one has the laptop snug against your bag, which means the leverage is much less and with the laptop being one of the heaviest things I carry, the bag feels a lot lighter.

[@sceptre1067]

lol. have an old school domke from the ‘80s. and it’s small, carries what I need, and I think gosh I’d like a bigger bag, and then remember how easy it is to carry that old domke around. so totally agree.

[@Crusader1089]

I have a tiny M50, and love shooting with the 20mm pancake lens. It's so small it fits in a jacket pocket. Although I love shooting on the Sigma 30mm, the pancake lens makes the camera so small, it's hard to resist.

[@erenteker6908]

I completely agree with this video. Dedicated camera bags are darn too expensive. I have been travelling with a 3 slot shoulder bag for 3 years and I have never felt the need for more. Sometimes you feel like you want more but I am not gonna carry many lenses or lights with me so it has always sufficed for a travel/street/landscape photographer. Worst case scenario I just load the tripod or other necessities in the trung of the car.

[@drpscotland3677]

Made the mistake of using a North Face rucksack for a day out. DSLR, plus lens, plus bridge camera. When I emptied the bag later, the bridge camera screen was broken due to items not being secured in individual compartments. Cost me almost £100 to fix the camera. I'll stick with proper camera bags now, even premium branded ones. When your equipment is worth thousands, and your livelihood might depend on it, why risk using a bag not designed for photography equipment?

[@YummyPork]

Good advice. I've been using a Peak Design Mirrorless Mover 20 (I think) as the insert when travelling. My Fuji XT-5 with a f2 prime and the 18-55 and a spare battery fits in there and will sit nicely in the bottom of a North Face backpack I've had for years. Gives me the option of just grabbing the small bag when going out for a day.

[@ErnestoValdezJr]

I think it depends on what you're doing that will determine what bag and gear to take. If you're shooting a wedding then you're probably taking a lot of gear so you need those nice roller bags that hold a lot of gear. If you just want to travel light or a having a quick lunch with a friend, you might just want to take a small camera and you can use a non-camera bag with no problem. I like my Peak Design backpack and I've had it for probably over 5 years and have put it through the wringer. When I'm out on a photoshoot, I like how easy it is to sling it to the front, open it, change lenses, close it and then sling it right back. It works for me and its efficient. I've also put my camera and lenses in non-camera bags and it works too but I find that you do have to protect it somehow. I've had gear damaged from clinking around back there. Good video and I like how you provide ideas on how to save money and be more discreet. Thank you.

[@frankhu8692]

the main reason i got a prvke camera bag is becasue i need to do some lont term travel with my gears, i want to do carryon yet organize them, and i do not want to have a pelican case to take care of. If you are in this case, you do need a quality camera bag as it is effecient and convenient. When I settle down at a place and only need to do some street photograhy, i carry a uniqlo sling and a tiny camera and just enjoy my time. However, if you are either doing this as your job or travel from a to b, organized and well designed camera bag is a must, we have to carry multiple lenses, follow focus, imgae transmition gear, microphones, ssds, slate, nd, matte box, 60w light, and many other equipments. To have organizers for them is a must, you can buy organizers and put them in regular begs, but the fitment and space-utilization is not as great, especially when a great camera bag like prvke offered comfort and water-proofing on the same time. Those bags are not meant for hobbyists or street photographer, but for travel/ profesional photograher/ indie filmmaker & DP or anyone who needs to carry multiple tools to get their job done/ move to locations. Plase understand that there are so many different filmmakers and photographers out there, and organized and functional camera begs exist for many use cases

[@GeorgeHolden]

Exactly, hence why I own one for pro work!

[@CaptCanuck4444]

Something that I've done with some success is using padded organizers from old camera bags in regular bags and sling bags. Costs a lot less and you're not locked in to any particular configuration. I'm big on minimalism these days, but the slippery slope is always beckoning. Sticking to a small bag is a great way of limiting the urge to buy unneeded gear. At this stage of my life, cost isn't the limiting factor. It's my desire to keep things simpler and more lightweight, especially when I travel.