Feather Palms for UK Gardens - Phoenix, Butia, Jubaea and my Jubutia Hybrid Palmtree!

[@vincenzecalzone8666]

Great video. Superb palms George. The jubutia is incredible. I've never seen one. Stunning. Great job👍

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thank you! I got it a few years ago, literally the week before the bigger palm import restrictions. It hadn’t been potted long and hardly had any leaves so it was a big risk but it’s paid off!

[@Harry-bz5jw]

​@@GeorgesJungleGardenlla ok

[@stevetandy1216]

Awesome palms, I have them all but not the Jubutia, what a palm ! I do have a mule palm which seems happy overwintering outside here in Sussex, great video, thanks

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Nice one, the Jubutia is a beauty! I had a mule palm but it got quite damaged by the BFTE, it’s now at a friends house - he’s got it in a big pot next to a tall greenhouse so it can be protected if required. They’re certainly an interesting palm although I suspect a step too far if there’s a cold winter...

[@howlis]

Looking at Hardy Palms website and what they have to say, it seems the glory days of palms could be over, just when I was getting a taste for these exotics plants. I may have to settle with visiting your garden through the power of KZbin 😊 Keep the excellent videos coming.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thank you! I wouldn’t say the glory days are over, but yes, things have definitely tightened up. There’s still a lot of choice out there but you have to shop around - that being said I’m pleased I got all my big stuff a few years ago! I’m sure there’s still bargains to be had though and Hardy Palms sold some really nice smaller hybrid palms recently - I did a vid on some I picked up a few weeks back 😃

[@zulu3006]

Great video, interesting to see the different cold hearty varieties you have over in the UK vice here in NW Florida

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks! There’s other varieties that would be able to take the cold most years but the issue is we lack the summer heat they need to grow well which does limit things!

[@MrThomtree]

Thank you for a very interesting and informative video. I am obsessed with palms over recent years, and this was a very good resource to refer to when thinking about what to plant in my own garden. Kind regards, :)

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Fantastic! Enthusiasm is amazing and when it’s combined with an idea of what should grow well where you are, you’ll definitely have an amazing garden!

[@edialbert8035]

Thanks for sharing 🌴🤠🌴

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thank you! 😃

[@bloggalot4718]

Great palms George, thanks for posting, as I look at this video, my palms are covered in a heavy snowfall.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks! As long as the plants are OK, I’m sure they look great! We’ve avoided it this time but I know a lot of the UK has seen snow.

[@SMARTEARMIN]

thanks a lot for this informative video

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks for stopping by and watching, I’ve done quite a few other vids on palms since and have loads more planned for this year! 😃

[@MrMoneyMan-zv8uk]

beautiful palm

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks!

[@MrMoneyMan-zv8uk]

what zone would you think these palms are good through

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@MrMoneyMan-zv8uk It depends which ones but realistically Zone 9 for safety, zone 8 let’s you roll the dice, any less and you might struggle but these years zones seem to be less relevant!

[@anthonydavid5121]

In my Americna brain it is just NUTS that palms, tropical plants, can grow at the same latitude as Southern Alaska. Insane.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Haha it is crazy indeed what we can potentially get away with! For a small part of the world there’s quite a variation in climates across the U.K. We’re definitely lucky to be milder than our latitude suggests! We can’t grow truly tropical palms but there’s a good range of cold hardy ones we can enjoy 😃

[@lmlmd2714]

The Gulf Stream is a riot... In Cornwall (extreme SW tip of the UK main island) and Brittany (NW peninsula at the top of France, directly opposite Cornwall) the variety of palms increases markedly, as does the maturity they grow too - we have Parajubaea Torallyi (Bolivian Mountain Coconut), Livistonia Australis (Gippsland Palm), and even Cunninghamia (Illawarra Palm) and Howea (Kentia) are being tried at the moment. In Brittany they're even playing with Pandanus. Most interestingly I find is that in Cornwall we do have commercial scale tea cultivation, and there is potential for citrus too. That said the Gulf Stream reaches is most absurd extremes way further north. Stavenger, Norway is at 59 degrees North, and even there, thanks to the gulf stream, they are growing Chusan and CIDP palms in the ground, which is just ridiculous.

[@Rocketman0407]

There is actually possible to grow trachycarpus on the warmest islands in south Alaska without protection.

[@Myrtuscommunis]

Beautiful plants! 😃💚👍

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks, they are indeed 😃

[@michazpuszczy1034]

Impressive collection. Greetings from Poland 😉

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks and respect to you! Anyone who grows these kind of plants in countries with Winters like yours deserves a medal!

[@michazpuszczy1034]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden So it becomes a kind of sport. You vs the Nature. And you are to be an expert in predicting the weather. Otherwise our summers seems to be warmer so the plants kickstart and run!

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@michazpuszczy1034 That’s a great way of looking at it! I know you have brutally cold Winters but your Summer heat definitely gets your Colocasias and bananas growing better than they do here for sure!

[@jimmarr9556]

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[@haroldbetterson1877]

Saw a CIDP in b and q earlier for £20 and was close to buying but remembered they’re not so hardy.. glad I didn’t ☺️ still tempted to get one and keep in a pot and put in greenhouse every winter. But in a few years will be too big and then what!

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

They’re lovely plants but for what it’s worth I think you made the right call. I’m still on the fence about planting my big one out, we’ll see...

[@paulpalmtree9295]

I love the Jubaea Chilensis, Chilean Wine Palm. I have one in a plant pot, only small about 18 inches tall in total including the trunk. I can see that the pot is restricting the size of the Palm, but I have left it in its pot, until we buy our new home, hopefully within the next 18 months or so. When it comes to planting into the ground, firstly, what’s the closest safe distance I could plant from the house wall ?. And secondary how deep a hole should I dig and prepare, with good drainage for the Jubaea Chilensis. Any good advice would be greatly appreciated, many thanks. Paul Palmtree 🌴🌴🌴🇬🇧.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi Paul, that’s a great choice and probably my favourite palm! It’ll be fine in the pot for now. As for the distance, Google Jubaea Chilensis and you’ll see it could need 3-4m or so when mature! But realistically, I’d say a couple of metres or so should be enough as an absolute minimum, they do get wider before they (slowly) grow upwards and whilst the roots are unlikely to damage your house, neither the plant nor the house would benefit from being too close. As for the hole, it completely depends on what the soil is like at your new house. I’m not a big fan of adding a lot of additional drainage below plants as in certain soils this can create a sump like effect and actually store the water. It’s great that you’re planning ahead and thinking about amending the soil, it’s an important step, but I’d hang on until you know what you’re dealing with.

[@paulpalmtree9295]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden Many thanks George for your reply, I will certainly bear in mind your good advice and tips, very helpful of you. And much appreciated. P.S. I must add, the palms in your collection look absolutely beautiful, even though we are only in mid February......Please keep up the good work. Paul 🌴.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@paulpalmtree9295 Thanks Paul! I’m that’s appreciated, I’m really looking forward to getting on with planting more out this spring!

[@garysmyth1692]

This is impressive, your gardens impressive. In say 15 years would these feather palms and the others not outgrow the garden.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks Gary. I’d say there’s enough room for the palms to mature (although they will interact with the surrounding plants). I do try to visualise what they’ll look like in 10-20 years, whether they’ll all make it is down to the weather but fingers crossed!

[@ARW.7]

I live near a vineyard called ridgeview, and in the winters to protect the grapes if it gets quite low they light hundreds of these oil based candles that stop the frost landing. You can probably find pictures Online - but have you thought of doing this if you get to a point where some plants might need protecting given you’re now actually getting these in the ground?

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Oh right, yes, I’ve actually read about that practice somewhere. To be honest I think I’ll stick to fleece wrapping etc and if it got really cold, I’d use tubular heaters near to key plants. For me it would be safer, more reliable and slightly more environmentally friendly! If there was just one VERY cold night, I’d probably get a few fire pits on the go though!

[@christopheryajeev7835]

have u considered giving your Jubita a Diamond cut so it looks more aesthetically cared for?....do they allow yout o actually strip the entire trunk to a cylindrical sphere as they age

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi, the boots will fall off it in time anyway but I might give it a tidy up soon. You’ve got no idea how much the older browning leaves get to me too but it needs all the photosynthesis it can get over here in the U.K.!

[@MandipBhachoo]

Hi George / Viewers Any idea where I can get a Jubutia hybrid? Googled it and can’t track down anything in the UK Thanks in advance 👍🏾

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi Mandip, will post a reply to this comment as well as your message if I come across any 😃

[@anthonyhollands8004]

This is a fantastic video. For some reason really quiet for me and difficult to hear even on full volume? I am trying a CIPD out in the ground this spring.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Sorry, yes I used a different app to film this one and the audio was really quiet for some reason. I turned it up as much as I could in the editing app and put the music down but it’s not great unfortunately! I’m trying to get better at the editing side of things but I won’t be using that app again for the voiceover stuff. Thanks and good luck with the CIDP, they’re worth a shot!

[@anthonyhollands8004]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden Well they are great videos. Tonnes of CIPDs in London and they are only a fiver from Wilko. If it fails then I'll just stick my Chamaerops in instead. Have a tonne kf Washingtonia but don't know what the hell to do with them. They can't stay in the living room like this every winter!

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@anthonyhollands8004 Thanks! That sounds like a plan, you've got a better chance in London than here for sure. I'd definitely be tempted to planta Washy out as an experiment, it's not unheard of for them to get to a decent size around London but they can grow BIG!

[@АрменМизорян]

Great garden! Which of the feather palm is most cold resistend?

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thank you very much, I’d definitely say Jubaea chilensis by quite a decent amount.

[@ammarashafqat284]

Hi, amazing info as always. I am a beginner and just bought two Phoenix canaries about the size of 2ft each. One of them has turned yellow from stem, like from the middle of plant all leaves has begun to turn yellow and have become droopy. Pls help n guide about what to do. I hope i have described it well, sorry for any silly description as i am still learning.thanks!

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi! Thanks and don’t worry about your description! Where in the country do you live and have both plants been outside all winter this year?

[@ammarashafqat284]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden Thanks for replying! I live in Birmingham. I bought them last week from Facebook seller and he recently received this new stock. The plant is in the pot, in sunny spot. I hope I haven’t done anything to kill it.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@ammarashafqat284 Hi, it could be shock, if it’s come from a warm greenhouse to being outside and subjected to frosts. It’ll look rough for a while but should recover. That being said, if it’s gone floppy over a week I’d be tempted to try swapping it, maybe there was something wrong with it when you got it.

[@ammarashafqat284]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden hi, i am not sure about seller swapping it. I didn’t change the pot also, just to let plant settle first. I kept it indoor first day n then kept it out the second day. The weather was not that cold and last few days its been sunny. I watered it once as it was mentioned that leaf yellowing might be because of lack of water. Shall i keep it indoor, will it help? Thanks!

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@ammarashafqat284 If it was a lack of water I don’t think it would yellow over a week, it’s more likely to be shock or something drastic to happen that quickly which is why I thought they might have come from a lovely warm greenhouse to being subjected to sun and frost. It is unusual that only one is affected too. If the other one is fine then keep them somewhere sheltered outside but if a frost or freezing weather is forecast then maybe pop them in a garage or cool room. Sorry I can’t help more!

[@securethebag1613]

hey there mate. whats the lowest temperature that the phoenix canariensis handles at ur place? also whered u get them?

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi, sorry I missed this comment, it’s only seen -5 in a sheltered spot so far so not a real test. I bought a batch a few years back, they should be pretty readily available in small sizes, even some supermarkets stock them!

[@cboaustralia]

Just bought 35ltr pindo palm for the front of my house should I plant it in a mound or flat? Will mulch it with bark or gravel to protect the roots from frost

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Great! It depends what your soil like is really. I mound mine because the ground gets very wet here in Winter but you might be fine. If you do mound it, make it part of a larger mound rather than just putting a bit of soil around the doorbell otherwise it’ll look weird and be more susceptible to freezing potentially! The bark and gravel aren’t essential but may help, yes, and look good too.

[@cboaustralia]

That’s great George thank you for your reply and advice greatly appreciated

[@darren9279]

How is your Phoenix canariensis after last December's cold 🥶? Mine has lots of damage but growth point has some green so may recover

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi Darren, mine's the same unfortunately. I'll have an update vid up later today showing how it looks currently. If there's green then there's still a good chance for them both!

[@Salmiyaguy1]

To me all butias are Pindos. I can't really differentiate between these varieties. they all look alike to me. I'd be happy with any of them, as I think most people would, at least aesthetically.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

There’s definitely some differences but yes, I agree with what you’re saying. A nice green eriospatha and blue green odorata look great, especially in a country where the palm selection is limited!

[@fansaaga4033]

Here in Dublin the only available affordable feather palm is Phoenix canarienses I have seen butia but only big ones for €200+

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi, yes, the Butia are definitely a bit more specialist aren't they. Does Hardy Palms deliver to you?

[@fansaaga4033]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden I heard people here ordered from palm company before brexit. No local companies sell them and Eu palm delivery cost a lot

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Ahh right, that's frustrating isn't it. Hardy Palms have some beauties around the £100 mark currently - I haven't spoken with Nigel but I wonder if you could make a pallet delivery happen?

[@markgilder9990]

Sorry George, I’ll come back to this when I find my headphones. 👍🏻

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

👍👍👍

[@JohnBurke-g8g]

When a juvenile, the Jubea will have a gigantic wide very very wide trunk. Very wide!!! Did I emphasize that enough? They are so thick-up 4-5 feet thick in California. Then as they get about 15-25 years old they will start growing maybe getting 12 leaves per year. Then their trunks start thinning out. They literally get thinner as they get older. When they are young you will understand the name "Wine Barrel" palm. Wine barrels are actually thinner.

[@JohnBurke-g8g]

Jubeas can be crossed with butias (Parajubea), Then the parajubea can be crossed with a Queen palm. A Queen Palm can be crossed with a Butia (MUle Palm). Great palms to work with and create your own. Donkey palms are what some refer to these varieties because they are sterile which is really nice.

[@goldensoundsdisco]

I came across your videos. I am considering the Phoenix canariensis the retailer is selling 6-7ft ones. I am concerned about winter, I live in the midlands,do you think they will be all ok just to leave in large pots during our winter (outside) and don't need to move during that time? Also this time of the year ok to repot as they come in nursery pots?

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi and thanks for watching, this was one of the earlier videos I made but I’ve got loads planned for this year too. Honest answer, it completely depends on the winter. Anything below -4 or freezing for an extended period can cause damage, much below -6 can be enough to wipe them out. In mild winters, plants at the size you say should be fine, especially when they’ve grown new leaves in our climate but I’d say you need to be prepared to move them into a garage or protect if you see temperatures like -6 forecast. A bigger pot will help protect the plant and you should be fine repotting it now, just keep it on the drier side after the initial watering and don’t feed it until April.

[@tedscott1478]

You've got some amazing palms there, they are real specimens. Where do you buy them? Is there a website or something please? I've got a couple of fairly big butea capitata, and canary island date palms but most of my palms are fan palms so I'm going to branch out now. Any info. on sources would be greatly appreciated. Again thanks...☺

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks, there's some beauties and I can't wait to plant them out. The big Jubutias aren't available anymore but a lot of the others I got from Hardy Palms, it might be worth waiting and seeing what stock Nigel gets in this Spring!

[@tedscott1478]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden Many thanks👍

[@raphlvlogs271]

is it a good idea to root prune palms?

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi, sorry I've just seen this for some reason! If you're trying to keep a palm potted for a very long time then I guess it would be a great idea, but if it's one you're looking at planting out eventually then I'd avoid it and ideally pot up to a larger size instead. It depends on the variety though, I imagine a Trachycarpus or Phoenix would take it better than, say, a Brahea Armata which is badly affected by root disturbance.

[@raphlvlogs271]

there is potentially more species of feather palms that can be grown in the Uk, especially in the south.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

There are indeed! For this video I wanted to look at the types more widely available and those I grow here but you are correct, in some more sheltered areas there’s potential for other Phoenixes, Juania and Butyagrus etc. They wouldn’t be varieties I’d suggest for somebody starting out though. Thinking about it, I missed out my poor little Chamaedorea Radicalis though!

[@iAM_B4TM4N]

The feather palms are really growing on me but I don’t think I have the room. 🙁

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hmmm it depends, maybe a potted Butia?

[@raphlvlogs271]

are palms planted as street trees in the UK?

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

They’re generally not other than Trachycarpus and a few Phoenixes but there’s some Butia, Jubaea and Chamaerops etc around London and on the South Coast where the planting can be a bit more adventurous.

[@cboaustralia]

The savoy hotel in London has two huge robustas at the front entrance in pots

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@cboaustralia Nice one, that’s cool!

[@tedscott1478]

Yeah, lots of them in Torquay along the sea front. Many of the coastal towns in Cornwall and Devon use them. Just consider where the name "Torbay palm" came from...

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@tedscott1478 That's it! Loads of them but the range is quite limited apart from some braver plantings which is great to see.

[@MrMoneyMan-zv8uk]

Do you think i could grow these in zone 7?

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Realistically you’re going to struggle, winter protection would most likely be necessary. Jubaea is the hardest but I wouldn’t like to subject it to your winter temps every year...

[@MrMoneyMan-zv8uk]

my winter temps are ussally 15 to 40 degrees Fahrenheit. I actually thing we are zone 8.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@MrMoneyMan-zv8uk 15 degrees farenheit most years is really going to push any feather palm without winter protection unfortunately, you might find they take more damage than they can recover from the following summer. Trachycarpus etc should be fine though!

[@GO-PIES-r6k]

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[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Thanks for watching!

[@thegreenthumb6184]

Man your like me on my KZbin channel now. I'm always like look guys I'm getting away with palms being outside for most of the year cuz of ✨ climate change ✨ but your right it's not a good thing though.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi, yes, things are definitely warmer on the whole and the hot spells this year have been unprecedented! Crazy times but I try not to get too carried away as there can always be a cold spell that’s just as extreme round the corner.

[@thegreenthumb6184]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden completely agree with you there. And sorry about the wild fires going on in the UK. I truly hope your safe!

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@thegreenthumb6184 Thanks, I’m sure other places have been hit worse. There was a large field fire in the next town that took a couple of houses out, scary stuff!

[@thegreenthumb6184]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden that's crazy ! Yes sir! Please stay safe for sure ! If it does get near your place please update us!

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@thegreenthumb6184 We’ve had a bit of rain and a lot cooler temps this week, we could still do with more water though!

[@timclontz965]

Wish we did have some global warming🙄last 2 winters have been breaking cold records since records were kept, and killed off 95% of palms that had been growing for over 20 years!

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

That’s sad to hear Tim, we seem to keep getting these cold events every 10-20 years, not good for those of us growing experimental plants. Be careful what you wish for though, climate change and global warming will probably make these extreme events more likely!

[@olivercampbell2839]

Winters are not getting warmer, nor are summers...that's why they spent a huge amount remapping the UK growing zones. Only to realise the 5 year trend they were following was a blip. The Canadian tndra has dropped 2 degrees C over the last 10 years. Australia has just had one of the coldest winters this year. We've seen hail stones even in Brazil...the world is most definitely not getting warmer...this summer has been colder than usual. After a hard winter. I wish it was getting warmer, but I guess its not about warmth, it's about "change"... The whole idea of " climate change" is to screw you over. I will not be surprised if they start locking down for climate.

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi Oliver, I don’t think it can be questioned that the Earth as a whole is getting warmer on an annual global basis BUT we’re definitely seeing a lot more extreme and unseasonal weather. As patterns like the Gulf Stream are disrupted we’ll potentially see even more colder winters in places like the UK, more rain events but without a doubt more extreme heat and dry spells too. This year certainly hasn’t felt warm here though, more like Autumn for most of the summer!

[@АрменМизорян]

You have Instagram?

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi, yes, it's @georgesjunglegarden

[@stupidusername38]

Hi George, can you reccomend any online UK distributors for palm trees? I'm after a pair of Trachycarpus Fortunei trees for my garden

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

Hi Nick, I’ve got a whole video looking at suppliers but Hardy Palms would be my top choice, maybe The Palm Tree Company might have more stock this year 👍

[@stupidusername38]

@@GeorgesJungleGarden thanks George, I found your recommended suppliers video after posting this comment. I did context Nigel at Hardy Palms but they aren't getting any Fortunei for the foreseeable future

[@GeorgesJungleGarden]

@@stupidusername38 Ahh right, supply and demand have both been issues this year. Maybe try The Palm Centre, Big Plant Nursery?