Gerald Posner, Author "Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK"

[@johnbaugh2437]

My stepmother went to school with Oswald when he lived in Fort Worth as a little kid. She said he was an odd kid and often bullied. My step grandmother said she was outside working on the lawn one day when she saw Oswald walking down the road. He had a black eye. Oswald’s mother drove up and asked him what happened. He told her he was in a fight. She asked “did you win?” Oswald said “no mama.” She then gave a look of disapproval and then drove off. She could care less her son was beaten up. My step grandmother saw all of this and felt sorry for him. She told me he didn’t have a chance. His mother was a monster.

[@shanet5604]

Rrrrrright...

[@robertn800]

She was. Kid moved 12 times before was 15 (?) - all his mother cared about was money.

[@bucksdiaryfan]

I think it was Bob Schieffer who had to give her a ride to Dallas from Fort Worth on the weekend of the assassination, and he said she is a complete wacko... no it was McNeil from the McNeil Lehrer Report

[@Ligerpride]

Whatever people may say about him, there is no doubt he was dealt a bad hand in life himself.

[@grobbs666]

@@Ligerpride definitely. His childhood experiences definitely left him at a severe disadvantage in life, but of course that doesn't excuse what he did. Many people are dealt bad hands in life, but are able to pull through in the end. Everyone has hardships, it's how you react to them is what really shapes you.

[@mikeg2939]

Imagine that you are looking for someone to set up as a patsy, would you pick someone who is 'normal' or someone with the character of Oswald described here?

[@animula6908]

Idk because most of us would never set somebody up. Conspiracy believers always know how to fake stuff up because that’s what they have to do all day every day to still imagine anyone else was involved.

[@Xonid1]

Someone who they might make think that he was the main event.

[@mauiswift6391]

The government wouldn’t risk a 23 year old lunatic. He had such a troubled past. You have to have some level of credentials to be recruited for any level of secrecy with psychological testing.

[@mikeg2939]

@@mauiswift6391 which makes him the perfect candidate.

[@martifrey3357]

@@mauiswift6391 lol Secrec? They killed him 2 days later. You just proved yourself wrong

[@kenthompson5723]

One thing you'll notice with lone gunman theorists is that they focus on Oswald, not the assassination as a whole. Almost their entire presentation, as Posner's here, is about Oswald. What does that leave out? It leaves out everything the Warren Report wanted left out >>> any factual evidence that points AWAY from Oswald as lone wolf. The false assumption made is that Oswald killed JFK, Oswald acted alone, period. Lone gunman theorists make no effort to find the truth about the assassination. Their only effort is to try to prosecute Oswald.

[@pjpaulamcpip3266]

To KenT, in addition they To rdEE,,,,,​to Mj,,,Plot method,To ​ John,,,To Mark, yes E. Howard Hunt was in that role in the project they named the" Big event", as Architect. He was CIA, Photo of him in Dallas exists., wearing earpiece as given to Dallas police. Barrie,,,,To @truth:::::To Pete ,@alankoz5067 Yes, you got all your points correct!! Mac Wallace an Frank Sturgis was a confirmed shooters at Kennedy too, as well as at least 8 others. Every main (5) shooter had an assigned backup shooter, as well there were signal men, spotters, fake badgemen., commander, Tactician, Strategist, Architect w field Crossfire setup, with a kill zone painted in yellow paint stripes on curb, 6 confessions an counting, LBJ Accountant paid most shooters, 5 snipers who were firing from 5 different directions, Jfk hit with 6 bullets totally, very complex plot. Head Shots:: to Jfk, fatal, overlapping 2 shot from back, 2 shot from front, some silencers utilized, shot to front throat via windshield shot from front, Bullet stuck in throat of jfk until Bethesda, shot to back right shoulder , from back, bullet that fell out in limo. also.. Motorcycle cop left recording open for audio, Was spliced onto real non tampered Zapruder film, matches up exactly 💯 by Groden an others. For non- Silenced shots,,, Volley of 16 shots totally by multi-shooters, heard by Nellie Connolly...A lone shooter cannot generate a 16 plus shots volley w bolt Action rifle in matter of seconds. Nor can Carcano Fire frangible bullets within a Fuselage of shots. Signaled by 🌂. Man. Project financed by big Oilmen, payouts by LBJ staff. N lawyer. Many investigations squelched, for years, evidence tampered with, evidence hidden, coercion, witnesses killed. Rogue CIA playbookkkk, body switch with Tippit, you couldn't make this up, Bogus autopsy, sad very, Very Stolen brains. Tape of military Chiefs secretly recorded them saying Kennedy was a marked man, after jfk left meeting..project corruption Event ensued. Cover-up started immediately.

[@akumar7366]

That's because their is not any evidence of any other gunmen , case closed.

[@tmat90-o8t]

🎯🎯👏 I noticed this too.

[@RobertR3750]

Your claim that the WC assumed no conspiracy from the beginning is false. Members of the staff wanted to find a conspiracy. They found none.

[@1Bronco2]

the minute Posner's focus was solely on Oswald.....I tuned out....... I feel the focus, as in ALL HOMICIDES is.......... THE MEDICAL EVIDENCE... what the Parkland doctor's saw....... case closed

[@Samanthatmin]

If you listen to the witnesses, the 2nd and 3rd shots were one right on top of the other. That would be impossible with a bolt action rifle. If you slow it down and actually watch the Zapruter film, you can see that Connelly was not hit by the same bullet that went through Kennedy's throat. Connelly himself stated that he was not hit by the same bullet. That was his testimony.

[@palemale2501]

You are dead right EG the bullet found on the stretcher was placed there and previously retrieved from top of rear seat cushion in limo outside hospital by SS agant Lamdis - maybe indicates a frontal shot to JFK throat and back - and nothing to do with any of Connolly's injuries, so no magic bullet. Rear shot a miss (hits road and sparks seen by a black family, then maybe hits curb and Tague), front shot throat, rear shot Connoly, front shot JFK head = 4 shots

[@jeffersonianideal]

I was a fully immersed conspiracist prior to 1991. Oliver Stone’s movie moved me emotionally but I thought Stone took the wrong path by emphasizing the Jim Garrison angle. What I did not know then was how this would become the start of my skepticism and inexorably lead me to reevaluate and significantly moderate of my beliefs regarding JFK assassination machinations.

[@albertopalma1663]

I beg to differ. Stone put both on the same level: Garrison's work to come to the conclusion that there were more shooters and Oswald was framed, and to show how things get done in Washington. If the audience missed the second part I just mentioned, then they weren't paying attention and focused only on Garrison. The movie is not about Garrison's angle, it's based on a book he wrote.

[@williamwingo4740]

Garrison never met a conspiracy he didn't like. I think his final total of shooters was well up in the teens: on the grassy knoll, on the triple overpass, in storm drains, in other buildings, and on and on. It's a wonder everybody in Dealy Plaza didn't get hit in the crossfire.

[@franclin0]

@@williamwingo4740 exactly. And with all his shooters and teams, only one shot was successful. 👌

[@cameronsmith8730]

@@franclin0 his definitive opinion was three.Others suggested the overpass,drain etc etc.

[@franclin0]

@@cameronsmith8730 3 shooters?

[@WilliamLeeson1]

I was only 19 years old when I first saw Oswald being interviewed after President Kennedy's assassination. My thoughts at the time were, this does not look like a man who has just committed the crime of the century. Recently a friend visited the museum in Dallas and I think a former Marine was there who said, he thought it impossible for those shots to have all been fired from that position. Why did so many people run towards the Grassy Knoll immediately after the third fatal shot? Numerous witnesses said the shot came from there. It is also unbelievable that no notes were kept of the Police interview with Oswald. I don't know the answers ,but the appalling catalogue of events following this horrendous crime raise many unanswered questions.

[@MrWolfmantim]

Wouldn't that fact that Oswald killed Officer Tippet point you to his guilt in killing JFK? Firing the shots has been replicated several times and the firearms experts, from the military, who testified to the Warren Commission, said the shots were very possible to make by Oswald. And keep in mind that many people running toward the grassy noll direction were also running toward the direction where Kennedy was shot. Finally, there was never any evidence/bullets found fired from that direction (they would have hit someone or the car or a tree or building past the car). Check out "Reclaiming History" for the most detailed, conspiracy-squashing book on this subject... it is very long and is well indexed so any reader can get quickly to topics of interest.

[@dylansalazar1226]

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[@baselbob8012]

Why would a bunch of regular people charge up the knoll if they thought someone with a rifle was up there? People in general are not that brave and ready to risk their lives. They were probably going to the cars parked in the lot over the other side of the knoll.

[@Firearcher4]

@@MrWolfmantim He never killed Tipet though, thats the thing

[@MrWolfmantim]

​@@Firearcher4 Please purchase and read the Report of the Warren Commission's section on Tippit's murder by Oswald. Oswald was picked out of lineups by several eyewitnesses; at least one of the bullets taken from Tippit's body was identifiable and it came from the pistol Oswald purchased and was on his person in the movie theatre. So many people saw Oswald's movements that every step he took from shooting Tippit to sneaking into the theatre was eyewitnessed.

[@mattzurzola4664]

When people start name calling in comments they have no evidence or knowledge on wtf there talking about

[@rickyrick1966]

Hey moron learn how to spell

[@Arclightraid]

Check mate I think!

[@jameshansing5396]

*they’re

[@jameshansing5396]

Not necessarily: some people are just insanely infuriating and others have very short fuses. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mikee7099]

A ballistics question. The magic bullet went through JFK, into Connelly hitting his rib and wrist bone, emerging not pristine but intact. The bullet that hit JFK's head exploded along with JFK's head, the bullet ended up in fragments. If both bullets were full metal jacket bullets why did one explode and the other remain intact. I'm sure there must be a simple explanation that I have never heard but I have always been curious about this. The Geneva Convention mandated bullets with full metal jackets to prevent the type of injury we see to JFK's head. Did Oswald use two types of ammo?

[@knnyb1]

Mike E read Mortal Error

[@mikee7099]

Ken Baltitas I did years ago. The author claimed a SS agent in the car following JFK fell backwards and accidentally discharged his rifle, a rifle that had ammo without a metal jacket and the shot hit JFK, hence all of the damage to Kennedy's head. I actually thought Mortal Error made more sense than some of the other books I've read. I guess the government would have a lot of reasons to cover up a mistake like that. A great headline, "Secret Service Agent Accidentally Kills President." The author did not exclude Oswald from his theory, he felt Oswald was there, Oswald fired shots that apparently hit Kennedy in the back but the fatal shot was fired by the SS agent. The premise for his book was that the ammo Oswald used (full metal jacket) would not have caused such catastrophic damage to JFK's head. So if I remember correctly the first one or two shots were heard, the SS agent stood up in the follow car with his rifle, an AR15 if I remember correctly, the car lurched, the agent fell backwards and accidentally fired his rifle hitting JFK in the head. And of course their is evidence that the SS agents had been out until 3AM drinking that morning so none of this presented a very good picture of the Secret Service, the agency who's job it was to protect the president.

[@mikee7099]

***** I am not a ballistics expert but some people wonder why a full metal jacket bullet would cause JFK's head to explode, the exact thing such a bullet was engineered not to do. Wouldn't it enter one side of the skull and exit the other side leaving two small holes and a path through the brain? The back wound is another problem. Both Dr. Humes and Dr. Boswell, the doctors who performed the autopsy at Bethesda, placed the back entrance wound at the level of the third thoracic vertebrae (51/2" down from the shirt collar would be) and slightly to the right of the spine. If that entrance wound is lined up with the supposed exit wound in the throat it is hard to imagine that bullet being fired from the 6th floor of the TSBD. Some have countered that the shirt and coat were bunched up and due to that the bullet entered higher than it actually did. The holes in the clothing are irrelevant, the bullet hole in JFK's back is the important measurement and it was noted as being at the level of the third thoracic vertebrae in the autopsy diagram. Gerald Ford apparently fudged and misled the WC stating the entrance wound was in the neck rather than the back which conveniently aligned it with the 6th floor of the TSBD.

[@banjohombre]

intra-cranial pressure

[@user6008]

The man who Mortal Error was about is Howard Donahue. He was a world class expert in the field of forensic ballistics. The man got it 99% right.

[@ejdiii333]

Did his homework, lets the facts and evidence lead the way. Truth has no bias, no motive no purpose other than the truth..

[@wito6998]

Ric Rovey The truth shall set you free!

[@ryanwilliams6206]

0% chance oswald did it alone. Actually there is zero proof that he was in on it

[@1828tolstoy]

@@ryanwilliams6206 because he didn't.

[@Bestillivoze]

"Case Closed", aka "Triggered by Stone's movie".

[@2666loco]

entry wounds don't blow big holes in the back of you head, rather in the front. And if oswald used a carcano bullet there should be an exit wound in the face at 2200 ft/second. A bullet in the back at T3 can't exit the front of the neck , but a front neck wound could make it to T3 vertebra

[@toddness305]

Kennedy’s head was tilted left and downward. The brain matter flew forward. Like you said about exit wounds, if JFK was shot from the front/right, shouldn’t there be an exit wound on the left side of JFK’s head?

[@jude999]

Look at autopsy photos. Bullet hole entry was small. The neck exist wound was from the first shot in the back.

[@amd5114]

Your not the brightest star in the milky way

[@KennethPoole-y7z]

@@toddness305 It was a frangible, exploded the skull. Brain matter went mainly back L.

[@KennethPoole-y7z]

@@jude999 That was a fake photo, the guys who took the real photos said that photo was not what they saw.

[@henryii2105]

Posner is right. One of the main things all of the "conspiracy buffs" leave out is Oswald. Oswald always gets lost in their stories. I use to be one that believed in conspiracy. I have read "Rush to Judgement" by lane, "6 Seconds in Dallas" by Josiah Thompson, "High Treason" by Groden and Livingston. What I begin to notice was they used a lot of statements like"This could Mean", "It is possible", "Maybe this means", and never really present any hard evidence. Lifton's "Best Evidence" is so bad I am embarrassed to admit I bought it. I have also read "Case Closed", "Conspiracy of One", and "Reclaiming History', as well as researching the Warren Commission, Church Committee, HSCA, and other research material including ARRB documents. What the conspiracy buffs always do also is to quote someone but they leave out all of the testimony or quote and twist it to fit their theory. Example Lane uses statements by Jesse Price who was across the Plaza on the south side. he told Lane that he saw a man running after the shooting over by the grassy knoll. What Lane does not tell his readers is that Price also said that he heard a final shot "5 MINUTES AFTER"! Funny. Lane knew if he put that in his book that it would discredit Price. No, it is the conspiracy buffs who never tell the truth.

[@BilgePump]

+bummy, I've been down the same road and have come to same conclusion. The conspiratorist if that's a word do exactly as you state in order to sell books. They are corrupting history & profiteering on the murder of Kennedy & the ignorance of the reader.

[@FIVEOFEVER]

+Bummy Ike Hi Bummy..Nice to see you posting again!

[@henryii2105]

Bilge Pump Exactly. The conspiracy buffs bank on the gullibility of the average American to not do their own research. It is all about making money from the president's death.

[@henryii2105]

Checkm8king2 Hey buddy. The fight goes on.

[@scottfoxl7431]

Word! I too used to be a conspirator, till I heard from Robert Oswald, and saw computer simulations and forensic evidence that support shots from that 6th floor. I've come full circle: from Oswald to the CIA to the Soviets/Cubans, the mob, Johnson and now back to Oswald. Computer simulations aren't conclusive evidence of course (GIGO), but since the conspirators don't present their own which counters that which points to Oswald on the 6th floor, then their main evidence isn't much more than "take my word for it".

[@ChanceJohnT58]

Geraldine Reid The Warren Commission spoke to a Depository employee witness who they simply refer to as "Mrs. Robert Reid," failing to refer to her real first name, which was Delores. She was standing in front of the Book Depository as the motorcade drove by. However, there was a second Mrs. Reid who worked on the second floor of the Book Depository. Her name was Geraldine Reid. The Warren Commission avoided mentioning this Mrs. Reid like the plague. She was flown to Washington and interrogated by the Commission. Her testimony was so devastating to their preconceived conclusion of Oswald's guilt that they buried all references to her. She said, "I was threatened to keep my mouth shut, or else." Anyone reading the testimony of "Mrs. Robert Reid" would naturally assume that there had been only one 'Mrs. Reid'. In fact there were two: Mrs. Robert Reid (Delores) and Mrs. Geraldine Reid. Here, for the first time, is Geraldine Reid's story: About one minute before the fatal shots were fired at the motorcade, Lee Oswald walked into the office across the second floor hallway from the snack room where he had been eating his lunch. He wanted to buy a bottle of soda and did not have the required change for the machine. He walked up to Geraldine Reid at her desk and handed her a dollar bill and asked her for change. "Mr. Oswald didn't like pennies. I remember that," she recalled. "As I was counting out the change, I heard what I later learned were gunshots. Mr. Oswald and I looked at each other quizzically for a moment, but neither of us said anything about the sounds. I did not know that they were shots at the time. I gave Mr. Oswald the change and he turned and walked back into the hallway toward the snack room. That's the last time I saw him until he passed by me a few minutes later as he was leaving the building." Approximately seventy-two seconds after the shots ended and Oswald had returned to the snack room to buy a soda from the machine, Officer Marrion Baker and Oswald's boss, Roy Truly, confronted him in the snack room. Truly told Baker that it was alright and that Oswald, in fact, worked for him. At that time, Truly mentioned to Lee that President Kennedy had been shot. Oswald seemed genuinely surprised. Baker and Truly then left the lunchroom and headed upstairs to investigate further. In the meantime, someone had informed Geraldine Reid about the assassination. Geraldine Reid's final encounter with Lee Oswald occurred a few minutes later. "The last time I saw Mr. Oswald, he was leaving the building," Reid stated. "As he passed me by, I noticed that he had his jacket slung over his arm. I told him that the President had just been shot and he simply said 'Oh?' or something like that, and kept on walking out of the office to go downstairs and, I assume, out of the building."

[@banjohombre]

Oswald's jacket was found in the building. This is baloney.

[@marcsonnenberg623]

A total Bullshit story.

[@robertromero8692]

Bullshit story, made up by Robert Groden to sell a book with zero corroboration.

[@Ckom-Tunes]

Just ask yourself: Why, when he was arrested, didn’t he say “Mrs. Reid can tell you where I was when the shooting took place!” Why didn’t Mrs. Reid come to the jail and tell Fritz he had the wrong guy?! Why do your stories always have a doppelgänger? Moreover, lets say it happened the way she said. Do you actually believe that Oswald, who considered himself a great political thinker, and would tell that to anyone who would listen, would be shuffling around the Coke machine when the leader of the free world was passing mere feet from the front door of his workplace? Even people who had no interest in politics were on the sidewalks or hanging out of windows to see the motorcade. Oswald certainly would have a keen interest in looking at the man who ostensibly ran the free world. It’s incomprehensible to think he would have just ignored the parade-if only to have something to complain about to others. No my friend. Lee was watching that motorcade intensely-from his assassin’s perch on the sixth floor…

[@ChanceJohnT58]

@@Ckom-Tunes A lot of words that reveal your lack of knowledge of the three witnesses on the 4th floor. Immediately after the shots were fired two women, from the 4th floor ,went down the same stairs that Oswald was supposed to have sprinted down to make his getaway. They did not see or hear anyone else on those stairs, but they did see the police office and building manager go up the stairs. The third woman remained behind on the 4th floor. She had from her desk a clear view of the stairs. She saw no one go down the stairs, but did see the police officer and building manager pass by on there way up the stairs. The ARRB revealed a memo from the Warren Commission confirming they interviewed one the women who went down the stairs and that it was a problem for Warren Commission. Her testimony has never been found in the records. The Warren Commission refused to interview the other two witnesses.

[@SeptemberAdam]

Now this is the wildest tale on Lee I've ever heard. Nice try though.

[@ronbyrd1616]

Agreed .

[@rentslave]

Posner is obviously a paid member of the tribe to deflect attention away from the Fed.

[@DavidArbuckle-sc8zc]

Agreed. His claim that he found no Mob involvement is absolute BS. You have to pretend Ruby was just a concerned "Nightclub Owner" and not a gun running, narcotics peddling, flesh merchant who like all mobsters hated RFK. Killing JFK was essentially closing down the RFK Mob Investigations. Ruby was just doing his part. No one knows that better than Posner.

[@dlit]

@@DavidArbuckle-sc8zc Welll said. The Kennedy's had tremendous courage. JFK took on the CIA and the military-industrial complex, and RFK took on the mob. This probably at least partly explains why JFK referred numerous time during his presidency to the possibility that he would be assassinated. On the evening of 11/22/63, RFK said, "I thought they'd get one of us, but I didn't think it would be Jack." RFK referred to the possibility he would be asssassinated in the years before he ran in '68. I don't think any other Attorney General ever took on the mob with the true intent of getting rid of them llike RFK. A division of his Justice Department was dedicated solely to putting Jimmy Hoffa in prison. They finally succeeded, and Hoffa never regained the presidency of the Teamsters Union after he got out. The true story of the Kennedys' courage in taking on those monsters has never been written, probably because it would involve exposing the role of the CIA, the FBI, and other elements of the government in JFK's and RFK's assassinations.

[@ronbyrd1616]

100% correct .

[@SteveMG500]

For those who believe Oswald was "easily" able to return to the US from the Soviet Union, please read Norman Mailer's book "Oswald's Tale" specifically pages 200-300. Mailer quotes extensively from US cables and memos, some Soviet documents and the KGB files about Oswald's attempts to repatriate. It took Oswald almost a full year to get approval from the US State Department. There were inquiries as to whether the government could prosecute Oswald, whether they should allow Marina to come in, whether to provide assistance to Oswald and other bureaucratic matters. It was a slow and cumbersome process. If Oswald was working for the CIA - something I think there is no basis for - then the State Department certainly didn't know about it. Because they gave him hell.

[@Rohilla313]

Steven Galbraith Good book.

[@Saintinthecity-wh9nl]

Although I don't share his conclusion (that Oswald acted alone) I believe that Mailer's book is the best ever written on the assassination. He also notes that Oswald suddenly cleared that State Department loan with three large payments after paying $10 a month or so. Perhaps Oswald was an informant for the FBI. That doesn't mean that they were involved in the assignation. Mailer also wrote that the FBI would recruit people from the margins of society to infiltrate subversive organisations. They would try to encourage other members of radical left and right wing organisations to engage in illegal activity. Thus making the Bureau's case stronger.

[@vernpascal1531]

@@Saintinthecity-wh9nl Read Lone Star Speaks a new book that has a lot of new and scary info.

[@Saintinthecity-wh9nl]

@@vernpascal1531 I will have a look, thank you.

[@markrymanowski719]

The CIA had 42 files on Oswald, dating back to 1957.

[@ChanceJohnT58]

Perhaps someone can explain the magic bullet. Why are there more bullet fragments seen in Gov. Connally's x-rays then there are missing on the magic bullet. Connally's Doctor did say in the press conference after surgery that there was still a bullet in Connally's leg. How did that get onto the stretcher in the hall. Now that's magic!

[@randyharris3175]

That's a myth because some conspiracy kooks say that doesnt make it so

[@jean6872]

Posner pretends here that the nick in the almost pristine magic bullet happened when it hit Connolly but I heard it was made by some investigators who took a sample for metal analysis.

[@cameronsmith8730]

Why weren't the bullet fragments ever compared,especially the ones from the President ?

[@ChanceJohnT58]

@@cameronsmith8730 You have just answered your own question. Lawyers never ask a question they do not want to know the answer to.

[@cameronsmith8730]

@@ChanceJohnT58 Nor the people for that matter.

[@tmac8892]

Buell frazier said the package Oswald carried that morning wasnt big enough to be a rifle. He said it was about 2 feet long. Frazier is on several utube videos saying this.

[@banjohombre]

He qualified his testimony by saying he didn't get a good look at it. Only a glance he said.

[@simonjames1604]

@@banjohombre which is not true at all he saw oswald walking into the tsbd with the package and he has stated clearly it wasnt big enough for a rifle.

[@banjohombre]

@@simonjames1604 That's not what he said under oath. Read his testimony.

[@simonjames1604]

@@banjohombre he has said it many times since you can find interviews with the man and he says plainly that what oswald had could not have contained a rifle

[@simonjames1604]

@@banjohombre he got a long look at it as he described to police how oswald put it in the car and walked slowly from the car to the tsbd and told the police it was too small to be a rifle thats his official police statement.

[@tonyc7301]

I believed in a conspiracy until I read Posner's book. Unlike most conspiracy books that have lots of good theories with little to no facts, Posner's book lays out the evidence piece and piece and most reasonable people are convinced after hearing what he has to say.

[@Dyrwlf]

So what did Gerald Poser's book say about the 2-dozen Parkland Hospital doctors/staff that are on record declaring they saw a gaping exit wound in the back of Kennedy's skull?

[@markrymanowski719]

Exactly the opposite of what he says. The evidence for conspiracy is overwhelming.

[@franclin0]

@@markrymanowski719 what does he say that isn't true?

[@cameronsmith8730]

@@franclin0 Posner states there was a shooter on the Knoll albeit hitting nothing.Two shooters equals CONSPIRACY.

[@franclin0]

@@cameronsmith8730 Nonsense. Show me where Posner stares such a thing.

[@claireangier3322]

According to KZbin channel lola4jvb4lho Lee Harvey Oswald was charged with murder, then paraffin tests were carried out showing Oswald had not used a fire arm that day, "no blowback". The gun was wrapped in a blanket for two months, no fibres were found on the gun. The Zapruder film clearly shows Kennedy shot from the front and not behind. They had already decided Oswald was the killer they made the evidence fit, they were never going to look for anyone else. But also if Oswald was the only killer why did they all go to do much trouble covering everything up? 🙏

[@parryowen2663]

I have seen interviews with all 5 doctors that worked on JFK when they transported him to Parkland hospital. They all said he had a gaping hole in the back of his head. Lee's bullets if he even shot at JFK, would not have made a gaping whole in the back of his head. He was shot from the front with bullet that exploded on impact. The doctor that performed the tracheotomy on him said there was a small entrance wound in the front of his throat that he expanded for the trache. Study the new evidence that has come out in the last couple of decades.

[@user-sb1vz9pv5y]

+Parry Owen Give a rest. You can look at the Zapruder film and clearly see the shot did not come out the back of JFK's head. Oh wait they tampered with the film. Yadda yadda yadda.

[@user-sb1vz9pv5y]

You just said back of head was gone and then you say forehead is gone. Witnesses are not always credible.

[@user-sb1vz9pv5y]

You said the forehead was missing and witnesses say the back of head was gone so yes that is what you said. Which is it? You can't have an entry wound the same size as the exit wound. The autopsy pics show JFK with both the back of his head face intact except for the damage done by the exit wound. So yes the witnesses were either mistaken or they lied.

[@parryowen2663]

+Michael Jackson Does it really matter? You believe your way and I will believe mine. Just drop it! I am tired of hearing it from you!

[@user-sb1vz9pv5y]

So you didnt say "Explain why in frames 333-5, JFK's forehead and face are gone and you can see Jackie in place of where his face should be." Sounds like you support the comment his face was gone otherwise why use that description? Again which one do you agree with? The witnesses or the film? Thats the whole point. It cant be both. As for one witness Marilyn Sitzman. Witnesses said that black kid in Ferguson was shot in the back and yet medical evidence showed he wasnt. Witnesses are often unreliable evidence. Anyway its been 50 years now. Dont you think in a conspiracy this large that someone would have talked by now? But there no credible evidence. Every conspiracy theory gets disproved and another one pops up. Give it a rest. Sometimes things are not that complicated. There was no benefit for JFK'sdeath. Its the last thing Cuba or Russia would want. Mafia would not want to take the chance. We were already headed for Vietnam. JFK may not have escalated it like Johnson but it would have continued. The only person that benefited from JFK's death was Oswald who got his 15 secs of fame. But believe what you want.

[@wallacebell4311]

The most researched book is “Reclaiming History”. Case Closed is a well written book and along with the Warren Commission Report and “Reclaiming History” then the truth is fully explained.

[@fobrien1]

only if one doesnt bother you know will silly things like fact checking .

[@philwright2480]

It's garbage, cherry picked bs

[@KeithWilliamMacHendry]

@@fobrien1 HaHa, my auld pal fobrien, I have the book Reclaiming History, do you?

[@jfkcamelot]

lol

[@SeaToby11]

The old fat man Zapruder himself left much more than the images of his film. He stood bravely and as steady as he could when he filmed a violent event while others ducked and hit the ground. Somehow this amateur photographer kept the limousine in the middle of the frame and he flinched slightly only three times. If there were more shots he would have flinched more times, and if the shots were coming from closer to him he would have probably flinched harder. The actions of Zapruder himself tells a story, a true story.

[@davejones5745]

Yes, when I think about it your absolutely right. This is something that can't be faked!!

[@JfK--OBJECTivE]

@@davejones5745 The Zapruder film has been doctored by CIA, do you not know anything?

[@davejones5745]

@@JfK--OBJECTivE . Well there you go, taking somekind of wild conspiracy theory and claiming it's a fact chiseled in stone!?! Sad that you would believe this...

[@gabrielszarose5640]

Agree his whole demeanor is doubtful, almost diversion style, heard he was hired for the confusion involved.

[@franclin0]

@@JfK--OBJECTivE wouldn't it be easier to destroy it and say it was damaged beyond repair while trying to analyze it? I ask because you're inferring that the original has been altered and all the copies out there are manipulated fakes. Why fake it? Why not just destroy it?

[@williamwhitten7820]

It is extremely difficult to believe that Dr. Robert Perry would recommend Posner's grimoire of patent psychobabble. Dr. Perry said three time in an interview in front of Parkland Hospital on 11/22/63 that the wound in the throat was an entrance wound. To further corroborate this, the wound in Kennedy's back was at the level of the third thoracic vertebrae, some 6 inches lower than the throat wound. that trajectory eliminates the 6th floor window of the Book Depository Building. In fact it eliminates any position above ground level. Remember this bullet is supposed to be the 'Magic' bullet that went through both JFK and Governor Connally. the physical facts cannot be denied.

[@robertromero8692]

“the wound in Kennedy's back was at the level of the third thoracic vertebrae, some 6 inches lower than the throat wound.” The chief medical examiner for Dallas County, Dr. Charles Petty, was asked about this problem. He explained that from an analysis of the Zapruder film, the HSCA determined that at the time the president was struck in the back, his upper body (though not his head) was inclined forward at “an approximate angle of 11 to 18 degrees” relative to the horizontal plane, and because of this, Petty said, even though the bullet was at all times traveling downward (from the horizontal, i.e., relative to Elm Street) through the president’s body, from an anatomic standpoint (i.e., if the president had been seated ramrod straight-referred to medically as the “anatomic” or autopsy position) it was proceeding on a slightly upward path through his body. Therefore, diagrammatically, the bullet that struck the president appears to be going upward-in that it is exiting at a point on the president’s body higher than where it entered-“but it is only doing so anatomically,” he said, adding that “the president was not in an anatomic or autopsy position at the time he was shot. If he had been, the bullet, even anatomically speaking, would have exited at a lower point on his body than it entered, because it would have entered higher up.” As the HSCA photographic panel of experts concluded, “The bullet was moving…downward by 4.0° relative to Kennedy if he was sitting erect (not inclined forward or aft).”

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@robertromero8692 I will not rely on the psychobabble of Dr. Charles Petty. I have done my own analysis of the Zapruder film, Kennedy was NOT leaning forward at any such drastic angle when he was struck in the back. At z225 when we see Kennedy as he comes in view after being behind the FWY sign. he is sitting straight up with his hands at his chest. At z274, JFK's head is bowed forward slightly as though he would be looking at the level of his knees, but his torso posture is straight up. But firing from the presumed official story, the bullet in the back would have exited from below the sternum. See: *Costella Combined Edit Frames* - you need to be able to study the Zapruder frame by frame to do a proper analysis of the film.

[@robertromero8692]

@@williamwhitten7820 “I will not rely on the psychobabble of Dr. Charles Petty.” It’s not “psychobabble”. It’s scientific medical analysis. “Kennedy was NOT leaning forward at any such drastic angle when he was struck in the back. At z225 when we see Kennedy as he comes in view after being behind the FWY sign. he is sitting straight up with his hands at his chest.” He had already been hit at Z225, so the angle then is not the salient one. “you need to be able to study the Zapruder frame by frame to do a proper analysis of the film.” This video does exactly that. It shows JFK’s head moving FORWARD at the moment of impact from the head shot. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWHHZ399Z5ybh68

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@robertromero8692 Mrs. Jackie Kennedy - 1979 message to researcher Harrison Livingston via staff . From 'Killing Kennedy and the Hoax of the Century by Harrison Livingston. Pgs 22 & 30 - my information that the photograph is fraudulent comes from Jacqueline Kennedy through her staff and from representatives of the Kennedy family.

[@robertromero8692]

@@williamwhitten7820 What photograph are you even talking about??

[@richardcutt727]

Fred Hoffman, a deaf mute, saw two men at the picket fence. A shooter and another supporting him. Also the Zapruder film shows Kennedy being thrown back with violence against the seat. James Files said he used a Mercury exploding bullet and fired from the picket fence. The Zapruder movie shows the impact of a fragmenting Mercury bullet. If Oswald was a shorter he was not alone.

[@explorepikespeak]

A CBS documentary showed a test shot from a high-powered rifle hitting a skull (fake or animal, not sure which) from the REAR, and the skull is thrown BACKWARDS violently. It's counterintuitive, but that's what they showed in a video. I wish they'd show that test more frequently; that might quell people's justifiable suspicions.

[@ath7616]

The entry points for both shots that hit were from the back, there is absolutely no proof of a second shooter. There are eyewitnesses who saw Oswald in the window with gun in his little mitts. As for dear old Fred, it was proven many years ago that he was telling diabolical porkies about where he was stood during the assassination. The magic bullet theory has been completely disproved as Connolly was seated inwards and lower than JFK, so the trajectory is perfect for the sixth floor window. The trouble is that all these theories contradict one another, you all need to get to get together and plump for one and then set about finding even a tiny piece of evidence. Good luck with that 🤞🏼

[@ath7616]

@@explorepikespeak It wouldn’t. The evidence is overwhelming that both shots came from behind and Oswald was the one squeezing off shots. If the penny hasn’t yet dropped for those who have researched the subject, it never will. 🤷‍♂️

[@curbozerboomer1773]

Bogus info!

[@pjpaulamcpip3266]

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[@williamfletcher5760]

So why did the Dallas doctors report entry points in the front?

[@roberttaylor914]

The docs at Parkland were NOT trauma doctors. They had no experience with high powered rifle injuries.

[@paulajaneabel5205]

@Robert Taylor. That's total nonsense. Parkland is and was a trauma facility. They dealt with gunshots every day. It was the Bethesda doctors who weren't trauma doctors. You got it exactly backwards.

[@williamfletcher5760]

@@paulajaneabel5205 I ann reporting what is being said in the media outside the USA. Personally I think the US ha snot choice but cover up as the Cold War sentiment could well have led to a serious war regardless of who committed the murder

[@paulajaneabel5205]

@Wiiliamflethcher. The conspiracy was internal. The cover-up had to be planned internally. The conspirators had to get the body out of the capable autopsy doctor at Parkland to the military controlled autopsy. By law, the autopsy shouldn't been done in Texas. State crime. Not a federal crime in 1963 to kill a president.

[@robertromero8692]

@@paulajaneabel5205 The very nature of an emergency trauma room at a hospital is such that forensically precise and accurate descriptions of the character of a gunshot wound cannot be expected. In fact, a 1993 article in JAMA reported that “the odds that a trauma specialist will correctly interpret certain fatal gunshot wounds are no better than the flip of a coin.” A study conducted by investigators at Bowman Gray School of Medicine at Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, from 1987 to 1992, compared the post-mortem findings of a board-certified forensic pathologist with the medical records of emergency medicine physicians, trauma surgeons, and neurosurgeons. It was discovered that out of forty-six cases, trauma specialists made errors in 52 percent, either in differentiating the exit and entrance wound or in determining the number of bullets. In 15 percent of the cases, the trauma specialist made both types of error. As expected, multiple gunshot wounds (the situation with the president) were more often misinterpreted, accounting for 74 percent of the errors. Even single gunshot wounds were misclassified in 37 percent of the cases.

[@Samanthatmin]

No one is disagreeing that Oswald was an oddball and yes, apparently, he did abuse Marina. He wasn't a great guy but none of this is proof that he shot the president or JD Tippit. The guy was a kook but if you were looking for a patsy, wouldn't you choose a guy like that? I would.

[@palemale2501]

The CIA was employing at a distance a few like him, in their Dirty Tricks sections (hypnosis, drugs, mind bending) from the late 50s, setting up dodgy legends around them, just waiting for a day......meanwhile great practise.

[@dESTRON76]

I must admit I am on the fence as far as to the depth of Oswald's involvement overall but if he acted alone, from TBSD, how did a bullet manage to go through the front windshield from the 'outside'?

[@rds333]

The same way the "magic bullet" did. The bullet missed the target, then did a U-Turn in mid air, and while maintaining velocity, made impact on the windshield. This is known as Warren Report Physics.

[@RobertR3750]

It didn't. That claim is CT fiction.

[@RexBernard-kr7md]

Presumably, you hold in your hands a smart phone which is quite capable of performing Google search functions. If you spend a few minutes using it, you can easily answer and debunk your own claim

[@roberttaylor914]

It didnt.

[@roberttaylor914]

@@rds333 Your premise is faulty. Kennedy and Conally were NOT seated front to back. Kennedy was in the rear to the right of Connally who was in a jump seat down and to the left of Kennedy. Look at all the photos of them in the car. Connally was 6 ft 4 and Kennedy was 6 ft 1 and is seated HIGHER in the rear than Connally was in the front. NOW tell me about the trajectory...You need to see or read something besides an Oliver Stone movie... Stone is a known liar.. So is Lane

[@philipskalla4312]

After watching just the first few minutes, it is obvious that Posner is looking in all the wrong places. It doesn't matter what kind of childhood Oswald had or what doctors said about him. He was being impersonated in both America and Mexico in the run-up to the assassination and even Hoover admitted he had been impersonated. The man who went to the Cuban consulate did not look anything like him and spoke broken Russian whereas Oswald spoke it fluently. There was at least one case of Oswald's being impersonated somewhere when it could be proven he was elsewhere. A man who is acting alone and even - as Posner seems to make out - the prime mover, does not need to be impersonated; only a patsy does. Oswald was sent to Russia as a fake defector and brought back; no-one has ever explained how he got the money to pay for his trip to Russia nor for his dates at an expensive nightclub in Japan, which so amazed his colleagues. No-one has ever explained how he managed to get a job on the motorcade route five weeks before the route was published, nor why he would be preparing his assassination escape route during his alleged visit to Mexico, even before he knew he would be getting the job, let alone that it would be on the motorcade route. Oswald's impersonation was part and parcel of his framing. Please see: THE IMPERSONATION OF LEE HARVEY OSWALD and KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: SIX SHOTS WERE FIRED both of which are on KZbin

[@chestrockwell6807]

Oswald was sent as a fake defector? you've really fallen off the loony train. did he fake trying to end his life as well?

[@philipskalla4312]

@@chestrockwell6807 I note that instead of dealing with the many points I made, you pick on one and make an abusive comment instead of offering a refutation of it. Throughout his three years in the USSR, Oswald was ostensibly hopeless as a student of the Russian language, used miming to express himself to work colleagues, and was someone who knew no Russian when he arrived there. A doctor at the hospital where Oswald was taken reported that it was obvious that although he said he didn't know Russian, and asked for a translator, he actually understood everything said in Russian. George de Mohrenschildt said that Oswald was very fluent in Russian and actually preferred to speak Russian to English, and he was not the only person who mentioned Oswald's remarkable command of the Russian language. Taken together with the fact that 'no-one has ever explained how he got the money to pay for his trip to Russia nor for his dates at an expensive nightclub in Japan, which so amazed his colleagues', it is obvious that Oswald was working for an intelligence agency. Why don't you try making an intelligent response instead of resorting immediately to ridicule?

[@chestrockwell6807]

@@philipskalla4312 the fact you claim Oswald was a fake defector is a pretty good indication you are incapable of intelligent discussion. Please cite some hard evidence that says Oswald's defection which has been corroborated even by the KGB agent he spoke to was all part of some elaborate hoax.

[@philipskalla4312]

@@chestrockwell6807 In your very first sentence, you resort to personal insult. There is plenty of evidence that Oswald's defection was staged and that he had intelligence contacts and I have cited some of it. There is other evidence, including his attempt to contact a former intelligence officer following his arrest. I am familiar with the trick of demanding 'hard' evidence when everyone knows that the CIA is never going to admit that Oswald had a connection with it. You have shown by both of your responses that if one of us is incapable of civil - let alone intelligent - discussion, it is you.

[@chestrockwell6807]

@@philipskalla4312 so then you don't have any actual evidence and your claims of a fake defection are nothing but wild speculation. glad we cleared that up! Asking you for evidence for your outlandish claims is a trick? lol this is getting hilarious. your vivid imagination is the only evidence you can produce. is this the only loony conspiracy theory you believe in? no way this is the only one.

[@davidhutchinson5233]

The problem for me has always been is how the hell did he get those shots off with a bolt action rifle? 60 minutes did the test with a renowned expert on marksmanship...and even he couldn't perform the task. For me that is indeed the sticking point.

[@johnadams5489]

David Hutchinson Oswald had 8.3 seconds to fire 3 shots. NOT less than 6 seconds as the Warren Commission thought originally. He had a round in the chamber when the Limo turned onto Elm Street. He only had to cycle the rifle twice. The longest shot was 88 yards. Child's play for anyone that was trained in the US Marines that qualified as a Sharpshooter.

[@ryanwilliams6206]

2nd and 3rd shots were right on top of each other. Pretty much every witness says that. That destroys the single gunman theory. Clearly a conspiracy. Dont overthink things. It's obvious if your thinking straight

[@AMC2283]

@@johnadams5489 8 seconds, 8 minutes--that carcano was once called a mauser. the 6.5 casing they found didn't fit a 7.65 caliber weapon. the bullet path don't make sense, the recovered pristine slug don't hold up. the wounds changed entry point once the body was stolen and the military got their hands on it. you're pledging allegiance to the flag and the banana republic for which it stands.

[@scottcarroll9201]

Really? I've seen it replicated on the Discovery Channel show Unsolved History by an 88 year old man.

[@rickp3753]

CBS News replicated the kill and 3 marksman hit at lest once. One man hit all three times in 5.62

[@petercleary1000]

55 years on and we still haven't had all the documents about this. If it was one man, why all the secrets over all this time.

[@Jamestele1]

Because the Secret Service agent accidentally shot JFK in the back of the head. Those guys had been out the night before, and Agent Hickey was on the open top car behind the president. He had an AR-15, which explains why the agents were in the room during the autopsy, after protesting the autopsy occur in Texas. The agents got the evidence of the AR 15 round, which blew JFK's head. Forensically, it is the only other scenario that actually works, i.e. Umbrella man shot JFK, then flew away like Inspector Gadget, etc. Agent Hickey's car lurched forward causing Hickey to bump into the AR 15, which caused his hand to accidently discharge his rifle, directly into the back of JFK's head.

[@cal4837]

Government takes forever to release shit. Too overcautious imo and it enables dumbass conspiracies.

[@Jamestele1]

@@cal4837 Agree 100 percent Sir or man. Yours is the most intelligent and honest comment I've seen in a while! Peace be with you!

[@naysayer1238]

@@Jamestele1 No, you are just an idiot, sorry to inform you.

[@andredevries-wf5fh]

I always believed Oswald was a lone gunman until Postner came on the scene

[@martifrey3357]

lol

[@felixheiss]

Yes . What about all those guys hiding in flood drains and on the grassy knoll with their Mannlicher Carcanos disguised as curtain rails .

[@uploadJ]

re: "I always believed Oswald was a lone gunman until ... " Okay, Lee.

[@paulajaneabel5205]

Posner's scenario is full of holes.

[@uploadJ]

@@paulajaneabel5205 re: "full of holes." Yet, you can't name one. A weak case , you do present.

[@pauld3790]

I think the fact that every person in the emergency room in Dallas said and today, save one, still says there was a major exit wound in the lower right side of the back of Kennedy's head is all that is necessary to set aside the idea that Oswald acted alone. For someone to later come along and say they were all mistaken is the real absurdity.

[@banjohombre]

Kennedy was lying on his back and no one turned him over, so how could anyone see the back of his head? With all the hair JFK, had the wound was a bloody matted mess.

[@michalbarcik]

I think the fact that every person in the emergency room in Dallas said and today, save one, still says there was a major exit wound in the lower right side of the back of Kennedy's head --- A lie. Nobody said anything like that.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

@@banjohombre That does explain much of what the ER docs thought they saw...but I still have a problem with Kemp Clark, the neurologist who signed the death certificate, saying that there was a large wound in the Occiput (back) of the head, extending somewhat to the right side. I think he got it wrong, but how could such a qualified surgeon make such a mistake?...and he never would talk about that day, beyond his WC interview. I think he was embarrassed!

[@mikeandrews1899]

​@@banjohombrepure science there , I see 👌

[@mikeandrews1899]

​@@michalbarcik The doctors’ most startling observation was that the back of Kennedy’s skull was missing, indicating an exit wound and proving beyond doubt that there was a gunman shooting from the front. Yet the autopsy photos show the back of Kennedy’s head fairly intact. The doctors claim that the body must have been tampered with - perhaps part of the head was sewn back on to make it consistent with the lone gunman thesis.

[@nealm8709]

Next thing you know he will say the Easter Bunny was a sharpshooter and the assassin.

[@czykrepublic4323]

If it was Oswald's goal to "put himself in the history books" for killing JFK, why would he deny doing it?

[@banjohombre]

No one knows Oswald's motivation. You describe just one of many speculations.

[@lesbates]

Because criminal denies their own actions.

[@Daash27]

Oswald was a coward. That's why he denied his own actions. Now does this exonerate him because he said he wasnt involved? Criminals plead not guilty all the time.

[@ryanwilliams6206]

No one can prove oswald did and did it alone. No witnesses saw him. No admission. Hasn't been found guilty in the court of law. No fingerprints on the rifle til after his death. 2nd and 3rd shots were on top of each other. Rifle couldnt do that obviously. That alone destroys the single gunman theory

[@suzannek3493]

@@banjohombre thats a weak reply

[@pauljosephbuggle3722]

Great historical investigations! Well done.

[@garyyoung9085]

Curious that Lees top Marine corps shooting score 212 is mentioned. Dispite this his shooting ability is still questioned in conspiracy scenarios. I stumbled upon Charles Wittmans Marine shooting record last year who some will remember as the Austin Texas collage campus shooter. No doubt about his ability with a rifle and no conspiracy theories to cloud opinion. He scored 215... Lee was only three points behind this notorious sharp shooter.

[@justaburgscousin]

There’s a recording of LBJ and J Edger Hoover talking a week after the assassination. Hoover told LBJ the way he thinks it happened. To the letter his “Theory” was the exact conclusion of the Warren Report, before the investigation had started. To me it proves they had the conclusion before the investigation, and the “investigation” was just twisting evidence, to fit the narrative they wanted for the public. I recommend anyone listen too it. It’s on KZbin. Make your own conclusion

[@garyyoung9085]

@@justaburgscousin Trouble is with the FBI (so obviously Hoover) they were aware of Lee. , knew his location and tried to cover up they knew after the assassination. This cover up especially agent Hosty destroying a letter from Lee threatening the FBI has in my opinion spawned the whole conspiracy issue. There was a conspiracy and it was to cover up ineptitude by the FBI not monitoring Lee more closely. This would have especially been on Hoovers radar , this is why he pushed an agenda imo.

[@jeffeverett274]

This has never been closed, except by fools.

[@KeithWilliamMacHendry]

@@jeffeverett274 You are the fool, ya steamer!

[@jeffeverett274]

And your the numb nuts. Fool.

[@jimward204]

I have always been curious as to how much Posner was paid to write his book and who paid him. There are too many facts that fly in the face of the so-called "official version" of JFK's assassination as written by Posner.

[@aaronz7056]

Like what???

[@dylansalazar1226]

Back it up boy

[@Docjonel]

Yes, please show us your proof that Posner, and everyone who does not buy into the endless contradictory conspiracy theories, are all paid shills for the CIA. And by the way, where the hell is my check?!

[@grazianocooper2061]

Senator Yarborough and Mayor Cabell's wife and others smelled gun smoke, which is hard to do when Oswald is 250 feet behind them and 60 feet in the air with the wind in his face, unless it came from the grassy knoll which was only 50 feet in front of them and 11 feet in elevation. Plus the 59 witnesses who said the shots came from the Grassy Knoll.

[@Alexaklr]

Also my questions: who paid him and how much to confirm their lies?

[@ronmarvicsin7709]

The biggest problem I have with Posner is that he’s very inaccurate with the things he tells people who believe that he knows what he’s talking about. Oswald accidentally shot himself with a 22 daringer yes, but he did not punch an officer in the face. Oswald either intentionally or by accident spilled a drink on an officer that Oswald thought was picking on him. June 24, 1958 Court-Martial: Partly Printed Document Signed. Two two-sided pages, 8" x 12.5", Atsugi Japan, June 24, 1958. This "Charge Sheet" contains Oswald's typed information as the accused, the names of witnesses, information provided by commanding officers, Oswald's punishment, and other remarks. Just two months after his first court-martial, Oswald was brought before a second military court on charges that he insulted and assaulted a superior officer. For several weeks prior, Oswald had been complaining about the duties that had been assigned to him by Rodriguez, claiming that he was being picked on and harassed. He tried to get himself transferred to another crew, but was unsuccessful. On June 20, 1958, Oswald saw Technical Sergeant Miguel Rodriguez Jr. and Staff Sgt. James Milam in the Bluebird Café in Yamato, Japan, at which time Oswald apparently decided to take matters into his own hands. Oswald's drink was either spilled or poured on Rodriguez and the MPs were called. The first charge against Oswald states that Oswald "did... wrongfully use provoking words, to wit: 'You're yellow because you won't go outside and fight me.'" The second charge states that Oswald "assault[ed] Technical Sergeant Miguel Rodriguez Jr.,... by pouring a drink on him, and saying 'Let's go outside,' or words to that effect." I’ll show you more.

[@naysayer1238]

And the quotes from the Dallas Russian community? How did you like those, Ozzie lover?

[@smitsos1]

Posner presents a persuasive fiction. Unfortunately however that’s all it is, as the evidence against Oswald acting alone is not satisfactorily addressed. - I think Posner glossed over the pristine bullet. Even the Warren Commission photographs comparing bullets that had been shot through cadavers and goats looked nothing like this bullet which traversed 15 layers of clothing, seven layers of skin, and approximately 15 inches of muscle tissue, struck a necktie knot, removed 4 inches of rib, and shattered a radius bone. The bullet then magically removed itself from the Governor’s thigh onto a gurney in the corridor at Parkland Memorial. I’m sorry for having a reasonable doubt. - I don’t understand how Jackie Kennedy climbs on the back the limousine to retrieve part of the President’s detached skull. You would think she would have climbed on the bonnet? This was consistent with Bobby Hargis who was a motorcycle cop riding on the left hand side and behind the limousine being struck by brain matter and blood. Given the bullet had come from the back, the laws of physics appear to have temporarily reversed - which is of course absurd. - The clincher for me is the eyewitness accounts of the Parkland hospital doctors, all of who’s testimony was ignored by the Warren Commission. Invariably all the doctors in Trauma Room One (Dr Paul Peters, Dr Richard Dulany, Dr Robert McClelland, Dr Pepper Jenkin, Dr Charles Crenshaw) noticed a 5 inch occipital exit wound in the President’s head. Dr Robert McClelland was very detailed in his observation stating that he could see the cerebellum (which is located in the back of the head). So many doctors couldn’t have got it wrong. So to suggest that these doctors were all wrong is tantamount to suggesting another wild conspiracy theory, this time amongst the Parkland medical staff. I agree that there are many silly conspiracy theories which have done a lot of damage to the view that Oswald ‘probably’ didn’t act alone. I don’t know why it’s so important to prove how the assassination was perpetrated. It is much simpler to show that there was more than one shooter, everything else is just conjectural. To point to Oswald’s bad character and guilt is a moot point as I don’t think any reasonable person thinks that Oswald was not involved in the assassination. I think he definitely was involved but let’s not use this as a straw man to detract from the real question of whether he acted alone. The circumstantial evidence and particularly the handling of the affair after the assassination raise many red flags. Even the murder of Oswald by the mobster Rubenstein raises serious suspicions. However as I stated earlier, for me the most convincing evidence is from the Parkland medical team. This evidence, which indicates at least a second shooter, cannot be ignored and in my view has received too little attention for my satisfaction.

[@ryanwilliams6206]

2nd and 3rd shots were on top of each other. That alone destroys everything Posner says.

[@davidgeisler9885]

@@ryanwilliams6206 where’s the proof of that?

[@briankohl7431]

Nope you are wrong on everything. Give it a rest. Oswald alone. That is it.

[@Dyrwlf]

@@davidgeisler9885 How about that government shill Julian Read who promotes the Oswald theory? Even he stated in a 2013 interview that the 2nd and 3rd shots were on top of each other. What a horseshit job the gov did on covering this up. The people they have promoting the Oswald theory can't even lie correctly 😂

[@davidgeisler9885]

@@Dyrwlf honestly governments can barely organise a christmas office raffle let alone keep this JFK conspiracy secret for 50 years. You give government departments too much credit. Anyway, you can see in the film that the second and third shots are not "on top of each other". I asked for proof to the contrary and all you can give me is a "someone said". Someone said the sky is red ... so?

[@joeumarov7491]

I thought this book was worth reading. Its author sounds “too” stupid. All I heard is “Oswald is the worst person in the world.” The governor was hit after Kennedy was shot in the neck. U can see it in Zapruder film. The governor himself said that he’d been shot after the president was shot. U can see it in Zapruder film. After Kennedy got shot, the governor turned back and there isn’t a sign of him being in pain then when he was in process of turning left (because he couldn’t see the president while turning right. That’s what he said in an interview) u can see pain in his face. It was 2 seconds after the president got shot.

[@Docjonel]

The Zapruder film shows Kennedy and Connolly being struck and reacting at the same time.

[@Firearcher4]

Correct. One proof among many proofs which PROVE that Oswald was innocent. He was not on the 6th floor. That can be proved. Shots came from the front. That can be proved. The motorcade was 10 minutes late and LHO had no way of knowing that yet he was seen by Carolyn Adams in the 2nd flr lunchroom around 12:22. Now if you had planned to kill JFK you would park yourself up on that 6th floor at 12 noon and wait. You would not be in the lunchroom at the exact time JFK was supposed to be passing by the building!!

[@dlit]

Well said, sir. Connally insisted to the end of his life that the shot that hit JFK in the back was a different bullet than the one that hit him in the back. The Warren Commission had to ignore Conally's statement about the two bullets to come up with their lying "magic bullet theory" to try to pin the whole thing on Oswald.

[@Firearcher4]

Gerald Posner is on video saying that no person claimed shots came from the knoll until years later. What a frikkin liar that guy is. He is the writer of case Closed. Watch THIS video from 1:15 onward

[@MrObelisk2290]

To be fair the most researched book on the JFK assassination is Reclaiming History by Vincent Bugliosi, 21 years. 1986-2007

[@1981lashlarue]

Yes it is. I love Bugliosi's books and have the utmost respect for him. While I would classify Bugliosi's book as the best on the assassination, I favor Posner over Bugliosi in talks and presentations about it like this.

[@terribleTed-ln6cm]

No doubt about it , i have read it twice and will probably read it again . I have no problem debating the conspiracy kooks now , as a matter of fact I have two conspiracy kooks in my family and they don't even bring it up anymore.

[@shanet5604]

Ric Rovey We have a troll here !!

[@shanet5604]

Ric Rovey Poor confusing comeback ! Never a point talking to a CT ! The impressionable mentality and lack of intelligence make it a non starter !

[@shanet5604]

Ric Rovey Another non contribution !! I’m Irish !! We make up our own mind !! 🇮🇪

[@PatSpeer]

Posner's presentation is invaluable in that it shows his bias, over and over again. Whenever he has an opportunity to attack Oswald's character he takes it; he doesn't even pretend to present a balanced view of the man. Nor of the evidence. When discussing the single-bullet theory, for example, he claims the shot has been repeated "regularly", which is pure malarkey. As but another example, in support that the magic bullet really did pass through two men he claims that the nose was nicked on the front. The nick, as he should have known, being an expert and all, was created by the FBI for a test. The irony, of course, is that Posner attacks Oswald for, first showing anger, and later for being cool under pressure, even smug. Posner could have been looking in a mirror.

[@TheMrktd1]

Pat Speer Posner is somebody. You are nobody. live with it.

[@PatSpeer]

And who are you? And why should anyone care what an anonymous troll has to say?

[@TheMrktd1]

Pat Speer A "balanced" view of Oswald. LOL! OK.....he loved his kids. But not enough to not shoot JFK and send his ass to prison. Oh, and you are STILL nobody.

[@TheMrktd1]

Pat Speer Funny how you kooks identify with the loser. What might that say about YOU?

[@PatSpeer]

***** Coming from an anonymous person using the name of a Nazi TV character played by a Jew, that's quite a compliment!

[@mikeg2939]

So Oswald was a crack shot but hit the window frame instead of Walker. So Oswald was a tyrant towards Marina but moved to New Orleans when she told him to instead of punching her in the face again.

[@1shitin]

And he hit traffic lights…

[@williamwhitten7820]

Recent research by John M. Newman proves that Lee Harvey Oswald was an agent of ONI Office of Naval Intelligence. This puts Posner's entire psychological profile into question, as well as the reasons for Oswald's trip to Russia. Oswald was trained in the Russian language while in the military. He spoke the language so well that Marina thought he was a native Russian when they first met. When Oswald applied for a visa to travel to Russia one was supplied within a few short days, which is exceptionally fast. Then when Oswald returned from Russia he was given financial assistance from the US government to pay for his family's flight back to the US. When they landed in the US there was no debriefing of the so called traitor who offered to give US intelligence secrets to the USSR.

[@ronbyrd1616]

100% correct .

[@davidpike5069]

Excuse my question. But your mental evaluation of Lee is very very thin. Can anyone form a treatment plan from the sketchy at best. And as far as him making the shots. He would have been shooting at a target that is moving away from him. But when you have the bullet hole in the windshield figured out call me please

[@ryanwilliams6206]

Clearly a conspiracy. Does everybody forget that the 2nd and 3rd shot were on top of each other. That alone destroys the single gunman theory

[@scottcarroll9201]

In the Marines Oswald could consistently hit a 10 inch target from 200 yards 8 times out of 10. On the day of the assassination Oswald hit a 10 inch target from 88 yards one time out of three. I don't see the problem. Oh and there was no bullet hole in the windshield. If you can prove that then call me please.

[@jfkk2754]

Oswald was highly intelligent,,,he also had a very high security clearance.,,,he also knew way to much

[@user6008]

Oswald had an IQ of 118, yet he never had a drivers license or knew how to drive a vehicle. Never had a father, hated his mother. Loved to read books endlessly, spent most of his formative years in foster care, was picked on, bullied and and hated school. The young man was a basket case from the get go, and Lee was an angry, self absorbed individual with a distorted vision of the world around himself.

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@user6008 says, "Oswald had an IQ of 118", Where did you get this information? Give us a link to verify this assertion. An IQ of 118 is not very high. An average IQ score is between 85 and 115. 68% of IQ scores fall within one standard deviation of the mean. An IQ score over 140 indicates that you're a genius or nearly a genius, while 120 - 140 is classed as "very superior intelligence". 110 - 119 is "superior intelligence", while 90 - 109 is "normal or average intelligence". I have an IQ of 135. What is your IQ Mr. Hancock? 185? Lol

[@user6008]

@@williamwhitten7820 National archives, JFK assassination records. 118 is considered above average with 98 being average. You need to do some heavy reading before spouting off nonsense. Lee Oswald was intelligent, he was also an introvert with violent tendencies, had an incredibly F-D up childhood, hated his mother, resented authority. Basically a square peg in a round hole. The kid actually scored an IQ 102 in fourth grade, loved to read voraciously which explains why his IQ was above average. Lee actually skipped school to hang out in the public library, where he learned about Marxism. You should watch the radio interview he gave in New Orleans, where lee's intelligence is displayed.

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@user6008 Again, you haven't given a source for you assertions. I do no doubt Oswald had a high IQ. Oswald was an ONI agent on a mission to infiltrate the conspiracy forming in New Orleans in early 1963, and shifted to Dallas later. John M. Newman has proven this in his deep study of the Assassination. All I want from you is links to your information.

[@williamwhitten7820]

Mortician Thomas Evan Robinson: Notes on preparation of JFK’s body for burial Transcription of these handwritten notes: Thomas Evan Robinson Personal contact info deleted to protect Mr. Robinson’s privacy May 26, 1992 (Phone) Wounds: Large gaping hole in back of head. patched by placing piece of rubber…..over it. Thinks skull full of Plaster of Paris. Smaller wound in right temple. Crescent shped, flapped down (3″) (approx 2) Small sharpnel wounds in face. Packed with wax. Wound in back (5 to six inches) below shoulder. To the right of the back bone. Adrenlin gland and brain removed. Other organs removed and then put back. No swelling or discoloration to face. (Died instantly) Dr. Berkley (family physician) came in an ask….. “How much longer???” He (Robinson) was told (funeral director) “Take your time.” Thomas Evan Robinson Personal contact info deleted to protect Mr. Robinson’s privacy May 26, 1992 (Phone) Wounds: Large gaping hole in back of head. patched by placing piece of rubber…..over it. Thinks skull full of Plaster of Paris. Smaller wound in right temple. Crescent shped, flapped down (3″) (approx 2) Small sharpnel wounds in face. Packed with wax. Wound in back (5 to six inches) below shoulder. To the right of the back bone. Adrenlin gland and brain removed. Other organs removed and then put back. No swelling or discoloration to face. (Died instantly) Dr. Berkley (family physician) came in an ask….. “How much longer???” He (Robinson) was told (funeral director) “Take your time.” ************************************************ My commentary: “Large gaping hole in back of head. patched by placing piece of rubber…..over it. Thinks skull full of Plaster of Paris.” The brain was removed during autopsy, of course plaster of Paris would have been used to keep the skull from fragmenting further during the time between autopsy and being sent to mortician. We again get into the issue - what does “back of the head” mean? The autopsy photos and x-rays show the wound is to the back of the occipital parietal, all the Parkland doctors used the same phrase. “Smaller wound in right temple. Crescent shped, flapped down (3″)” This is the entrance wound, that is without dispute by the research community. “(approx 2) Small sharpnel wounds in face. Packed with wax.” These would be caused by windshield glass, as Sherry Fiester CSI tracks the trajectory from the end of Dealey plaza near the Triple Underpass, which is higher in elevation than the area in front of the pavilion where the bullet hit Kennedy, as seen in the Zapruder film. \\][//

[@ianmc87]

When I was younger I believed in the conspiracy theories. But as I learned more about who Oswald was it became clear he acted alone. Posner deserves a lot credit for bringing out the facts of the case.

[@JohnnyCage333]

It became clear to you that he acted alone in killing the President of the United States. Okay. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jetcat132]

Same here.

[@williamwhitten7820]

Posner is a charlatan. He is giving a twisted and incomplete version of what happened in Dallas that day. He has totally left out the ballistic evidence that proves the throat shot and the head shot came from the front. Only those who are utterly ignorant of the actual facts would believe Posner's nonsense.

[@Christopher_Bachm]

It's not the time required to fire three rounds that proves anything. It's the fastest possible time between two shots that matters. Compare that to the shortest time between two shots in the Zapruder film. The three shot test was just another aspect of the cover up. The short time between the second and third rounds proves a second gun. The delay between the first and second round is irrelevant. Adding it into the test was an obvious con job from the beginning. Wake up America!

[@Dyrwlf]

Well said, Chris. Robert Groden stated that the first two shots took approximately 1.7 seconds. The best riflemen needed at least 2.3 seconds to fire two shots WITHOUT AIMING. Do not trust anyone who promotes Gerald Poser's books.

[@Christopher_Bachm]

@@Dyrwlf Well said... Yourself! I only know that a three shot test equals cover up! America must demand justice or justice never comes...

[@robertromero8692]

Nonsense. The second shot was fired somewhere between frames 207 and 222 of the Zapruder film. Let’s take 222 as the frame. We know that the head shot is at frame 313. At 18.3 frames per second, that’s 4.8 seconds.

[@robertromero8692]

@@Dyrwlf Nonsense. The second shot was fired somewhere between frames 207 and 222 of the Zapruder film. Let’s take 222 as the frame. We know that the head shot is at frame 313. At 18.3 frames per second, that’s 4.8 seconds.

[@Christopher_Bachm]

@@robertromero8692 What we know is that the film was altered. We also know that an expert marksman had trouble completing the three shot test with multiple tries. We also know that Congress found there were multiple shooters that day. You can count frames all day. It won't change the conspiracy or the cover up. Pretending we don't know these things only supports corruption. Congratulations!

[@chrisgreene2623]

How many far moreworthy researchers have refuted his limitations, full of omissions and a convenient narrative that avoids any challenge/. Charlatan.

[@marge-bg4zn]

The case will never be closed until we’ve seen all the (UNREDACTED) documents.

[@naysayer1238]

The more that comes out the more obvious it was Oswald alone. Especially since the fall of the U.S.S.R., everything the Russians say confirms it.

[@dks13827]

If God gave you the docs you would still be crying about this.

[@marge-bg4zn]

@@dks13827 we’ll never know, because the government will never let us have unrestricted access and you know that.

[@MyXxx77]

Gerald Posner did all the real and painstaking work no conspiracy nut has the stomach for. The facts and evidence always lead to the conclusion. Not the other way around. Easily one of the best books of any kind I ever read. Kudos to you Mr. Posner!

[@ryanwilliams6206]

Wrong

[@michaelivey1087]

His book was nothing but a work of Fiction. No way LHO would have been convicted in court. Providing there was an Honest judge and Jury.

[@MyXxx77]

@@michaelivey1087 Hahahaha... Sorry Michael. All the evidence is there, in fact, few cases have ever been so scrutinized. Lee Harvey Oswald would have easily been convicted in an open and shut case. Why? Because he did it. All by himself. I'm so sorry you can't deal with that reality. By the way, the Earth is a sphere, men really did go to the moon and "chem-trails" are actually con-trails.

[@ryanwilliams6206]

The problem is I can destroy his Hundreds of hours of research in 1 second. 2nd and 3rd shots right on top of each other. That destroys the single gunman theory

[@ryanwilliams6206]

@@MyXxx77 2nd and 3rd shots right on top of each other. Did you forget? Anybody home mcfly?

[@justprocrastinate4664]

Honestly..I suppose theres a market for this trash but if your going to peddle it then get it right..By 13:15 you shot yourself in the foot when you mention George d.. I mean for Christ sakes you use the z film to illustrate one point then ignore it so not to point out another..as the show goes on you just empty the whole magazine into yer foot..

[@toothbrush5190]

There's a very good reason why Gerald's last name starts with those 3 letters

[@bryanmachin2152]

Denial!

[@kevinhealey6540]

How can you explain the magic bullet?

[@pomme4moi]

Kevin Healey He did explain it. And he said the shot has been recreated many times. No more mystery.

[@kevinhealey6540]

@@pomme4moi If you believe that, I got something for you. I work for Amway and boy oh boy, have I ever got a deal for you. Would you just think a little. How can a bullet hit 6 different targets zig zagging all along the way and come out in pristine condition?

[@kevinhealey6540]

@@pomme4moi How can you possibly believe something like this. First of all Kennedy was shot from the front, because the head went back and to the left. Did they make some sort of test on that? The magic bullet hit Kennedy in the (1) back at an angle of 17 °, and then goes upward, (2) enters out of his neck, the bullet waits 1.2 seconds in mid air, turns right and then left, goes into Connolly's body at the rear of his (3) right arm pit, turns downward at an angle of 27°, (4) shatters his fifth rib, goes out of his chest, turns right and reenters (5) Connolly's right wrist, shatters the radius bone, exits Connolly's (6) wrist, makes a U turn, buries itself into (7) Connolly's left thigh. The Bullet is later found in Parkland Hospital. This is why it got the name, "The magic Bullet." Then came the head shot. This was all done in 5.6 seconds established by the Zapruder film. The Oswald rifle was tested and found to be defective. They took the best of best marksman in the country and only one could come anywhere close to what Oswald did on that day and even then, they never could never replicate what the magic bullet did that day. 90 seconds after Kennedy was shot, Patrolman Marien Baker ran up the stairs and saw Oswalt in the Cafeteria. Supposedly Oswald shot Kennedy in 5.6 seconds, wiped the rifle clean, hid the rifle, sprints down 5 flights of stairs, passes Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles who never saw him, just in time to get to the cafeteria, just before Patrol Baker gets there. All this within 90 seconds of the shooting. Is he out of breath? According to Baker, absolutely not. Oswald does not go out the back exit of the building, he goes out the front door where the cops have gathered.

[@scottcarroll9201]

​@@kevinhealey6540 It didn't zig zag. This is how Connally and Kennedy were ACTUALLY seated in the limo at the time of the second shot based on computer model recreations of the Zapruder film. frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2011/05/kenned.html Of course conspiracy theorists always use the diagram in their books of Connally seated DIRECTLY in front of, and at the same height as, Kennedy. In reality Connally was seated on a jump seat six inches inboard and lower than Kennedy.

[@kevinhealey6540]

@Jeff Carlin How can a bullet go through 7 targets (and that's all in flesh) and come out in pristine condition? Theoretically impossible. The bullet came from the front. His back went back and to the left. Why would a night club owner who worked for the mob shoot Oswalt? (Press Read more) In the three years after the murders of John F. Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald eighteen material witnesses died, 6 by gunfire, 3 by motor accidents, 2 by suicide, 1 by a cut throat, 1 by a karate chop to the neck, 3 by heart attacks, 2 from natural causes. An actuary engaged by the London Sunday Times concluded: On November 22, 1963, the odds of these witnesses being dead by Feb. 1967 are one hundred thousand trillion to one. (From the film, "Executive Action."

[@mikeg2939]

So if the headshot came from Oswald, firing full metal jackets, where did the bullet end up, did it also hit Connolly like the pristine bullet, or did it disintegrate? Or did it come from a different gun and wasn't a full metal jacket?

[@MrWolfmantim]

Fragments of the head shot bullet were removed during the autopsy and chemically identified as matching to the not-pristine bullet found on the gurney. Also, the "magic bullet" conspiracy books won't show you the picture of the full bullet taken from back to front, where it is obviously no longer a round bullet. The picture can be seen in "Recclaiming History". Just that alone tells you that such authors are perpetrating a hoax to keep their conspiracy money train from collapsing.

[@mikeg2939]

@@MrWolfmantim I've seen pictures of the bullet in conspiracy books, if I remember correctly it is oval in section, particularly at the cartridge end with a slight cast along its length and there is at least one flat spot on the tip. As far as I know it has never been suggested that it hadn't been fired but that it wasn't the one that hit Kennedy and Connolly. One suggestion was that it had been fired into a cadaver from the carcano prior to the assassination.

[@MrWolfmantim]

@@mikeg2939 I stand corrected. Thanks. However, the fact that Connolly's entrance would was oblong means the bullet hit something before entering since it was tumbling. And clearly that bullet was fired from behind. And despite what many of the conspiracy books portray (I've read several), Connolly was sitting 6" to Kennedy's left and some inches lower, on a jump seat. Sorry for being overly verbose but there's so much to this. I'm rereading Bugliosi's "Reclaiming History" which is enormous but well-indexed to find topics or names easily... highly recommmended.

[@mikeg2939]

@@MrWolfmantim Copy ordered. To me, as an avid reader, a recommendation often becomes an obligation. My tally of JFK books is probably between 10 and 15, mostly pro conspiracy, a couple total fantasy but all raising many questions, some of which Reclaiming History will hopefully answer. My next book to read on the topic is A Cruel and Shocking Act, which I believe to be a critique of the Warren commission report. Although I lean towards a conspiracy I do accept that Oswald could have acted alone and was either a crack shot or just got lucky, but there was a lot of unusual events before, during and after the actual shooting that causes doubt. There is also the question that if it was just Oswald then why are documents still being withheld by the government, who is been protected if the assassin is long gone.

[@MrWolfmantim]

@@mikeg2939 Mike, I tip my hat to you, sincerely. It is so refreshing to have a civil dialogue out here with an open-minded person. I thought, for many years, that there had to be a conspiracy given all the strange coincidences (e.g. Ruby getting in to shoot Oswald). I think you will LOVE "Reclaiming History." Just the introduction (of 40 pages) is so well written and researched that it made Bugliosi's case well enough.

[@ghfa1234]

Mr. Posner managed to sell a book and bought himself a reputation of an investigator. He is very assertive in his way of speaking and he can be given credit for a brillant well speaker. That is probably the only credit he can get unfortunately. All of his assertions are part of the WC « findings ». In other words, there is no investigation here. Just a recollection of the lone assassin story. His demonstration lies on darkening a man and comparing him to known killers. He is probably rights when he talks about a violent man, probably frustrated beating his wife. That does not automatically means that he is ready to kill a man. At least his guilt cannot be proven for sure because there was no trial. He never had a chance to defend himself. Fingerprints: FBI agent went to the morgue and used LHO fingers to have fingerprints, the picture of LHO standing with a rifle is a fake and has been proven by many specialists. It is actually a very bad photo assembly. Finally, nobody including best marksmen could not reproduce the 3 shots in such a little time. The 6th floor window is probably the worst spot to shoot from (steep angle) on a moving target. The Dallas tech building being probably the best spot shooting fro the rear because being in the same alignment with Elm street. JFK had an entrance wound in the throat where the traechotomy was done. This was observed by the doctors at Parkland and JFK’s reaction is to reach his throat, clearly visible on Zapruder’s film. LHO was involved in the conspiracy but what we don’t know is to what extent. He had a role to play that was assign to him.. One important thing is that LHO was given a parafin test that was found negative on his faces except traces in the palm of his hands. Fortunately, since this book has been written in the early 90s, a piece of the truth has been revealed by Grassy knoll shooter James Files, whose story has confirmed that this coup was a CIA job with mob doing the dirty part of it.

[@morganthompson9957]

Ur ignorant

[@Steevee14]

ghfa - you state that JFK had a bullet entrance wound at the throat. What do you say happened to that bullet?

[@jean6872]

Your comment is too long but essentially correct.

[@budbundy4014]

So he missed a seated general Edwin walker from a short distance on the ground. But he hits Kennedy twice from a moving target 6 stories up with a live oak tree in his way?

[@timhorpo]

The way the car was moving slowly, it may have just have been a stationary target

[@budbundy4014]

@@timhorpo I am from Texas and have been to the Texas school book depository. The sixth floor “snipers nest” is plexiglassed off. Supposed to be how they found it after the shooting. If you go one floor below you can get right below where Oswald was supposedly firing. If he was really there the shot would have Been when the limo turns from Main Street onto Houston. The limo would have made i wide slow turn and then at a crawl would have been headed right to the shooter before making another wide slow turn onto elm. Kennedy then would have been suck a easy target. You would only need one shot. It would be a easy shot for any hunter or novice. It would not require a marksmen or sharp shooter. If you ever get a chance to delay place you must go. You will see things much much clearer.

[@jayherzog7683]

Just as he did his entire life Oswald acted alone. Just as he did his entire life Oswald continually lied.

[@ryanwilliams6206]

Your a moron

[@scottcarroll9201]

@@ryanwilliams6206 Powerful rebuttal. And it's "YOU'RE a moron" professor.

[@robertthomas4593]

@@scottcarroll9201 Rather it's, "You're a moron, professor".

[@ricardoserrano102]

I agree with Gerald Posner Oswald did and he acted alone

[@mickielynnsimmons5468]

Are y'all serious Oswald was Mk Ultra and the CIA's patsy George Bush Sr had Kennedy killed y'all need to do your own research instead of being lazy and relying on everybody else to research then you come to their comments and make some bullshit ass comments like these than do it yourself

[@QuadB47]

my question is why would the Russians ask him to leave Russia. Why was it important for them to make sure he left the country? and why would some weird guy have a Russian Handler? do all citizens have Handlers?

[@x7Samuraix]

The weirdest thing is that Oswald renounced his citizenship, (a radar operator in the Marines) move to Russia during the peak of the Cold War and came back to the US, like nothing unusual, really? The magic bullet theory, the evidence of the bullet shells found besides officer Tipit body 38 auto, that didn’t match Oswald 38 REVOLVER. The Dallas Police were not able to find Oswald fingerprints in the so called assassins rifle, until after Oswald’s death. All these were facts initially confirmed by the Dallas police. We can go on and on. But the t of the iceberg, almost all of the Warren commission members, were fired by the Pres. Kenedy during his administration, what a coincidence. The real criminal investigation done so far was from TX DA Garrison.

[@naysayer1238]

lol Yes, insane Americans had handlers.

[@felicitymc8200]

I've always been surprised that the marines took someone on with schizoid features in their records. Maybe they didn't see that record. Today that is pretty much is a exclusionary diagnosis (at least in uk military). I do feel sad that he didn't get the care he needed at a young age and his mother thinking she knew best.

[@johnadams5489]

felicity mcdowell His mother was a self centered worthless piece of shit. The only thing she was concerned about was herself and finding another man to support her. She was garbage.

[@AMC2283]

yeah, that's what you call a cover story, the man was pure military intel

[@scottcarroll9201]

@@AMC2283 LOL. Zero chance a man with schizoid features and a 112 IQ would be recruited for intelligence work. Try again.

[@Dyrwlf]

​@@scottcarroll9201 There are plenty of released documents showing links between Oswald and the FBI/CIA. You either haven't done any thorough research, or you're just stupid. You choose.

[@drunkrumjack]

@@Dyrwlf Indeed I agree even if Oswald had concocted this plan on his own he was not some nobody loser with limited military experience. Even Johnson asks Hoover about Oswald's last Mexico embassy trip and Hoover makes a comment "that's the confusing thing." What was? Is Posner gonna so easily dismiss Ruby offing Oswald on live TV as yet another loser that need to prove himself? What about the actual real Miami police recording of James Milteer who "boastful claims" in Miami 2 weeks before Nov.22/63 make a stunning blueprint for what happened in Dallas ? What does Posner make of Kennedy family members making comments that there likely was a conspiracy? Why is Richards Helms of the CIA response to Mr. Belin in '75 on whether Oswald had been an agent of some kind (CIA/FBI and or ONI) still to this day redacted? If the Warren Commission got it right there should have been no need for the HSCA years later and information being censored and or locked up for several decades.

[@mikee7099]

So Walker was the only target that Oswald ever missed?

[@michaelivey1087]

TermsofService Yes, he was a world class assasin! Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! That's funny right there. Dont care who you are! LHO an assassin? Bwaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[@davejones5745]

@TermsofService . No, I think a cop grabbed his revolver, preventing the cylinder from turning. That's what I read.

[@michaelivey1087]

TermsofService Well, well, well! I don't ever recall calling Oswald a "Nobody." People like you have no idea what you are arguing. Just that you like to argue. You "Lone Nutters" are truly disturbed to think the W.C was a real investigation. Truly mind boggling. But, irregardless, there are way too many inconsistencies it the W.C. To make it believable. But, you go right on believing the nonsense. That's O.K.

[@michaelivey1087]

@TermsofService One more thing. Talk about "a no brain like me," me thinks that if you want to start name calling, you lose! So go 🖕yourself!!!!! You are not worth the time or effort!!!!!

[@81overon]

The bullet fired at Gen Walker wasn't from a 6.5 mannlicher carcano.

[@babyblue1153]

Well that's your opinion, but there's holes in your story too.

[@cradd2405]

The book is even better than this short video because in it he goes into more detail the scientific breakthroughs not available in the 60s and 70s which further support that Oswald was the lone assassin, among many other key facts (some of which were presented here in short form.) It is one of the most informative books I’ve read with data presented in a detached and matter-of-fact way. I certainly recommend it.

[@andrewhoyle1521]

1000% agree. The "suspicious deaths" and all the detail in LHO biography. This is what turned me from conspiracy to lone assassin. He really addresses the "little things" as well

[@robertn800]

I especially like his part about a witness who thought it was cute when Jack & Jackie played with the fluffiest white dog . Ummm there was no dog. Oh it must have been the white roses. The roses were red 🌹

[@deanwalker7216]

Lol. 🤡

[@Dragonblaster1]

The best book on it has to be Vincent Bugliosi’s “Three Days in November.” You can buy the really expensive version, which is a hefty tome, and half of it is just citations for the claims. The paperback is a lot cheaper, and it omits a lot of the citations. Bugliosi, who would have been the prosecuting attorney if Oswald had lived to go to trial, must have put in an incredible amount of effort and legwork into this book. The staggering amount of tiny details cited, all pointing to Oswald’s guilt, make this the best book on the subject, and I’ve read most of the books generally availability on it, including pro-conspiracy and anti-conspiracy, and including Gerald Posner’s scholarly work.

[@dukedematteo1995]

@@andrewhoyle1521 The computer reanimation done about 10 yrs before this is what convinced me. People hold on dearly to these conspiracy theories tho, damn.

[@classiclife7204]

Oswald's tragedies became ours. The USA never recovered from this horrible event. It's all been downhill since. I mean, empires fall anyway, but this is comparable to Commodus succeeding his father Marcus back in the Roman Empire. The general slide to obsolescence is inevitable. We're almost there now. Almost there.

[@yoyo54314]

Of course for all those facts he was chosen as a patsy,very easy to put all the blame on him. And fool people like this guy. A lot of facts put aside in order to make his book credible. Just patetic.

[@mikeg2939]

'was it a CIA operative who got Oswald the job overlooking the president's route, no it was Ruth Paine.' Did this guy do any research into Ruth Paine and her connections with the CIA?

[@JuanWild51]

there's a great documentary, 'The Assassination And Mrs Paine'(2022)..

[@animula6908]

It wasn’t Ruth Paine either. It was a friend’s brother. He watched Oswald carry in the rifle he used to murder the President a few hours later.

[@JfK--OBJECTivE]

Was Posner aware that Michael Payne phoned Ruth Payne on the day of the assassination (the phone was bugged) and told her they will blame the assassination on Oswald but we know different - this was before the name Oswald was publicised on TV.

[@michaelfrechette654]

Posner is beyond a donkey's ass. A complete, mendacious, arrogant liar

[@tetr2024]

Please !!

[@syndicateproductionstarana4925]

There are now images off a shooter on the Grassy Knoll,from the Abraham Zuprud#r footage.Also from the acoustics from all the cameras and microphones have proven 100% at LEAST 5 shots were fired.

[@Ckom-Tunes]

Nope. Zapruder never pointed his camera toward the grassy knoll. How could you mess that up? Also, there are no sound recordings of the assassination. Even the HSCA didn’t claim five shots-and they were proven wrong about the dicta-tape recording four shots. The majority of ear witnesses heard three shots. Look it up for yourself!

[@naysayer1238]

lol

[@ArmyRanger483]

and its not 8 out of 10 at 200 yards.the targets vary from 50 yards out. you clearly never served

[@roberttaylor914]

In the Marine Corps you shoot from 200 300 and 500 yards. 250 is a perfect score which few Marines do...

[@jefftomasello3258]

What drove me away from the conspiracy theories was I could never rationalize why Oswald would kill Officer Tippet? An innocent man would never do that!

[@1828tolstoy]

He didn't shoot him either.

[@shanet5604]

@@1828tolstoy You’re some fucking moron ! You’re throwing the same statement on every comment with zero evidence or facts,get a life or do some basic research !!

[@CMC328]

@@shanet5604 he did his research! Probably watched the Oliver Stone film a dozen times!

[@shanet5604]

@@CMC328 That’s spot on !!

[@81overon]

FBI agent Cortland Cunningham couldn't match the bullets recovered from Tippit's body to Oswald's handgun.

[@cameronc1509]

I’ll be THRILLED if he can tell me how a shot from behind makes a giant, gaping exit wound in the back of the head

[@TheMotz55]

Exit wounds are always worse. JFK's head exploded from the rear to the side. He was also wearing a brace to support his back. That added to the type of wound caused by the bullet. Oswald killed JFK and J.D Tippit. As Posner said, Oswald was a sick puppy.

[@MrWolfmantim]

There was a small, round, entry wound in the back of JFK's head. The large exit hole was at the right of his head. Interestingly, the left side of his head was undamaged, which would be impossible if a bullet was fired from the grassy knoll (how can a bullet enter the right side and not go forward and damage the left side of the brain)? What is your source for gaping wound at the back of the head and how could that have been hidden from the hundreds of officials investigating the crime of the century?

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@TheMotz55 Your comment doesn't make any sense. An exit wound at the right occipital parietal had to have come from the front. *Lee Oswald didn't kill anybody on 11/22/1963.*

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@MrWolfmantim asks "What is your source for gaping wound at the back of the head and how could that have been hidden from the hundreds of officials investigating the crime of the century?" *Every single doctor at Parkland Hospital described an exit wound at the right occipital parietal.*

[@robertromero8692]

@@williamwhitten7820 Dr. Marion Jenkins was one of the Parkland doctors who thought he saw damage to the rear of JFK’s head. However, Jenkins changed his mind after seeing autopsy photographs in 1988, saying that “the photos showed the President’s brain was crenelated from the trauma, and it resembled cerebellum, but it was not cerebellar tissue. I think it has thrown off a lot of people that saw it.” Charles Carrico was another Parkland doctor who thought he had seen cerebellum tissue. Carrico was asked if there was any possibility that the Parkland doctors were confused about the cerebellum (rear) being damaged. “Oh, absolutely,” he immediately replied. “Why?” He was asked. “Looking at the shredded pieces of brain on the gurney, it looked like some of it had the characteristics of cerebellum, which kind of has a wavy surface. But because these brain pieces were shredded, this could easily have led to confusion as to whether it was all cerebrum-which has broader bands across the surface-or some cerebellum. “The president was lying on his back, so we couldn’t see the rear portion of his head. Consequently, what we did see appeared to be further back than it was since we were not viewing it in relation to his whole head. But really, none of us were looking closely at where the defect was and making mental notes. We were just trying to save his life.” Another Parkland doctor, Charles Baxter, said that Kennedy “had such a bushy head of hair, and blood and all in it, you couldn’t tell what was wound versus dried blood or dangling tissue.” Parkland doctor Robert Grossman, who said he was present in Trauma Room One during the effort to resuscitate the president, would later write that “the autopsy demonstrated that the cerebellum was intact and that the physicians, including myself, who had thought that they had observed cerebellar tissue must have mistaken macerated brain for cerebellar folia.” Dr. Michael Baden, the chief forensic pathologist for the HSCA, has an excellent explanation for why the Parkland doctors were mistaken. “The head exit wound was not in the parietal-occipital area, as the Parkland doctors said. They were wrong. “That’s why we have autopsies, photographs, and X-rays to determine things like this. Since the thick growth of hair on Kennedy’s head hadn’t been shaved at Parkland, there’s no way for the doctors to have seen the margins of the wound in the skin of the scalp. All they saw was blood and brain tissue adhering to the hair. And that may have been mostly in the occipital area because he was lying on his back and gravity would push his hair, blood, and brain tissue backward, so many of them probably assumed the exit wound was in the back of the head. But clearly, from the autopsy X-rays and photographs and the observations of the autopsy surgeons, the exit wound and defect was not in the occipital area. There was no defect or wound to the rear of Kennedy’s head other than the entrance wound in the upper right part of his head.” Baden’s observation makes sense when you see the autopsy photos that clearly show that the president’s thick hair, drenched in blood, is all going in the direction of the rear-matted tufts of bloody hair literally extending way beyond the rear of his head. It bears repeating that the autopsy report only mentioned damage to the cerebrum (front), not the cerebellum. The xrays CLEARLY show the exit wound at the right FRONT.

[@hofstrabob]

Absolutely excellent!!! People love conspiracies but there is no strong evidence there was one.

[@Bestillivoze]

You are "right". The supposedly assassin killed by nightclub owner inside the basement of police station is nothing.

[@radguzzi]

Case...CLOSED!...funny how all the conspiracy creeps I've run into actually remind me of Oswald...deranged, obsessive little people high on their own sense of "knowing something" that we mere mortals cannot comprehend...

[@vernpascal1531]

Nothing says CREEP quite like some vertically challenged greaseball endorsing Magic Bullets...

[@scottcarroll9201]

I think that's a big part of the appeal of conspiracy theories for the True Believers. It imbues them with a sense of self-worth because they're "smart enough" to figure it all out while the rest of us are just too dumb to get it.

[@Rohilla313]

Scott Carroll Good point Scott. I always figured it’s because they’re so bored with their lives. History is too dull for them. They need conspiracy theories to spice up their lives. LOL

[@ryanwilliams6206]

Much easier to prove a conspiracy than a lone gunman

[@michaelivey1087]

@@vernpascal1531 couldnt have said it better myself!!!

[@dianamcdougall9251]

It's just presented in the line of "I'm starting from a supposition of lone nut gunman and go from there". Posner, who says Oswald is an 'expert marksman', which he wasn't, gives an account of Oswald missing Edwin A. Walker and supposedly hitting Kennedy using arifle thata had a misaligned scope AND that was a much more difficult shot than the Walker shot too. Posner is less than convincing.

[@AMC2283]

well think about it. why do we need Gerald Posner to tell us what happened? Why isn't the Warren Report good enough? Why wasn't the word of, say, future President Gerald Ford, trustworthy enough?

[@dianamcdougall9251]

@@AMC2283 Allan Dulles who had recently been fired by Kennedy as CIA director was on the Warren Report panel, tainting the panel from the outset and Ford was a politically ambitious politician as another panel member. It wasn't exactly a panel made up of of objective 'truth seekers'.

[@AMC2283]

Diana McDougall there’s 0 good reasons for them to have to merely speculate as to the path of any bullet, let alone come up with the magic bullet theory

[@81overon]

There is no solid evidence that LHO fired a shot at Gen Walker.

[@AMC2283]

81overon purely circumstantial anyway, the only kind of case they could make. It’s not a mystery. They’re garbage, they’re liars, they’re evil, they did it and covered it up.

[@johngeverett]

He actually did a great job with the slides. My only suggestion would be to spread all those quotes out over more slides so the font could be larger and more readable.

[@marcbrillant]

Excellent presentation sir!

[@roddek]

The lone nut, that is Gerald Posner!

[@larrywheels762]

Allan De Kretser I like that.

[@jenniferholden9397]

+Allan De Kretser, another major crime is the criminal damage done to posners face, how can you trust his judgment when he can have that done to his face.

[@shanet5604]

Ric Rovey Jesus can you offer anything other than random dismissal ?? Troll !!

[@roadrules3671]

You'd have to be completely Delusional; or in complete Denial to actually think and believe Oswald acted alone.

[@charleskemp2037]

oswald was sitting in the movie theater. he was a patsy. LBJ hated JFK, he controlled all of Texas, had the most to gain. the shot came from the grassy knoll where there is a fence and parking lot.

[@aaronz7056]

And what service, exactly, did these accomplices provide?

[@jean6872]

Gerald Posner fully accepts the Warren Commission's findings.

[@williamwhitten7820]

Yes Jean, Posner is a prevaricator and disinformant.

[@cameronsmith8730]

No he doesn't.He believes that shots were fired from the Knoll.....TF ?

[@williamwhitten7820]

@@cameronsmith8730 You are asserting that Posner thinks that shots were fired from the Knoll? *Where did you get that idea from?*

[@Tsnore]

By the reflexive vitriol that Posner and Bugliosi engender, they are on to something indeed. It is called reason, evidence, and intellect rather than emotion and self-interest.

[@vernpascal1531]

It is called Character Assassination willful,ignorance, and denial, that's what Posner ,and Bugliosi,specialize in!

[@albertopalma1663]

26:24 "This is the shot that comes from the rear" The Zap film shows that shot came from the front. Mrs. Kennedy jumped to the trunk lid to recover a piece of brain tissue. When she was in front of one of the Drs at Parkland she innocently handed that same tissue to him thinking that could help save her husband. If the shot came from the front, how come the brain tissue was on top of the trunk lid? Posner didn't explain any of that. Had he put those frames in motion, then we can see the head of the president moving back and to the left. Posner didn't say that. Posner didn't say anything about the Malcolm Wallace's finger print that was found on one of the boxes on the 6th floor. What was Wallace, a well known criminal and assassin, doing there? This hole thing is just nonsense! If Oswald was accused of trying to kill a general, why was he not in jail? No, they let him loose so he could be a lone nut that was going to kill the president. He who believes this Posner's theory must be a lone nut just like Posner. I just wasted 39 min and 25 secs.

[@MrShanester117]

Alberto Palma She didn’t climb on to get a piece of brain she was trying to run out of the car. And she never handed brain tissue to a doctor that’s completely made up. And Kennedy was wearing a back brace because he had secret medical problems and that explains the jerking motion. That and the car hit the gas pedal.

[@albertopalma1663]

@@MrShanester117 FYI Motorcycle cop Bobby Hargis, riding to Kennedy's left and somewhat behind him (see photo at left), was struck by Kennedy's brain matter when Kennedy was hit in the head. Front shot. Also FYI: Dr Pepper Jenkins recalled, “I noticed that her [Mrs. Kennedy’s] hands were cupped in front of her…As she passed by, she handed me what she had been nursing in her hands-a large chunk of her husband’s brain tissue.” I'm not inventing this, these are reports that contain names of DPD officer(s) and doctor(s), but you believe what you want and you're entitle to. I don't believe a word of what Posner says. That's it for me. Have a great day sir. PS. Any citizen is entitled to question his/her government and in a democracy, the government must answer to its citizens who question their elected officials. Does that really happen? hmmmmm

[@MrShanester117]

Alberto Palma Nearly Everyone believes in the conspiracy and they all have their “evidence” and their narrative but none of them even match up to each other. But go ahead keep building your fiction story so you can go and compare it with other conspiracy theories and hope that yours is the most interesting

[@albertopalma1663]

@@MrShanester117 You go ahead and believe what you think is right. If you're convinced that this (what Posner says) is what happened that's OK, but when one questions his/her government and doesn't get a straight answer from it, then we, the ones who vote and make possible for them to be where government officials are, have the right to find the necessary means to find the truth. "Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsibility for the future." JFK But my favorite is: "Man will be what he was born to be: free and independent" JFK Let's keep that in mind. Thank you for your time and Good day sir. PS I always keep this in mind: History is nothing but the repetition of human stupidity.

[@MrShanester117]

Alberto Palma There’s evidence. You don’t have to speculate or believe what you want to believe. You just have to read the evidence. It’s not an opinion. It’s a fact based on the overwhelming evidence.

[@justprocrastinate4664]

do we have copies of the returned letter at14.30 surely there are records

[@johnparry5811]

For over thirty years I genuinely believed in the idea of a conspiracy. I did fall into the trap of assuming that nobody as inconsequential as Lee Oswald could, alone, be responsible for killing someone as consequential as John F Kennedy. Yet, as the years went by and the absence of any internal evidential structure, within the conspiracy theories, continued to persist, my doubts began to develop. It was at that point I read Case Closed. Its objectivity, reasoning from known facts, and forensic focus on the psychology of Oswald, persuaded me, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the Warren Commission had in fact got it right. Oswald, and Oswald alone, did the deed. I still love Oliver Stone's film, but in years to come Case Closed will be seen as a seminal work in confirming an historical truth.

[@ryanwilliams6206]

Prove it that oswald did it alone. You can't

[@davejones5745]

@@ryanwilliams6206 . Neither can you prove that he didn't act alone. Impossible. But the scenerio of him acting alone is far more plausible.

[@michaelivey1087]

@@davejones5745 The scenario that the WC put together is the Most Inconceivable piece of crap ever written on the subject. All of the so called federal investigations STARTED as LHO doing it. Yesterday ALL of the so called evidence can easily be disputed. NO ONE TO THIS DAY, has ever been able to put that rifle in his hands! NO ONE. And Certainly NOT on the day it was found.

[@michaelivey1087]

@@ryanwilliams6206 They cant and havent proved he did anything that day. But, it is fun to see how the Lone Nutters argue with literally no evidence against LHO. insane!

[@davejones5745]

@@michaelivey1087 If you erase all of the conspiracy theories, and that's what they are, theories, not proof, then ALL of the evidence leads to LHO as the only shooter. I think you need to watch the video or read Gearlds book(probably never will).

[@robertjordinelli3041]

Why would he deny doing it if he was so proud, Gerald Posner?

[@animula6908]

To be a smug dick. Criminals do this all the time fool.

[@blucheer8743]

He was lone gunman ok… but I think part of a conspiracy. He was working with ppl of the “fair for play for Cuba” committee things of that nature, he could have been working for cia and not even know it… look at how fbi is working now, years later, nothing new. but we know now, too, the mayor of Dallas was a CIA operative, totally in charge of Kennedy’s itinerary and travel routes, and his brother fired, along with Allen Dulles, by Kennedy. Oswald could have been singled out, talked into killing walker and Kennedy, and not have a clue who was behind it, by the time he did figure it out he claimed he was a “patsy” which he was. After he did the dirty deed, then the mob, in control of ruby, stepped in and cleaned it up. Easy pezy. I believe the evidence supports this thesis.

[@canadianroot]

Yep, that hack of a shot just nailed it. Bang, bang, bang, one bullet travelling through JFK, barely getting damaged, slicing into Connally afterwards. Then with expert precision, (and split-second timing) BOOM! Another shot (by Oswald, of course) hits JFK in the back of the head, and, what? His brains spill out backwards? Now THAT is shooting skill!

[@redbastine]

That hack of a shot scored 212 on the USMC rifle range earning the title sharpshooter. Having qualified on a similar range as a Marine, I can attest that Oswald was a decent shot. Marines qualify from the 200, 300, and 500 yard lines without telescopic sites. All of Oswald's shots were within 100 yards and he had a 4X power telescopic site. Watch the Zapruder film and check out the high contrast analysis the Itek Corp. did on frame 313. The explosion of the president's head is clearly forward and to the right indicating an exit wound from a shot from the rear. Furthermore, Zapruder himself testified that the right side of Kennedy's head exploded. If the shot came from the front (triple underpass) or side (grassy knoll) the wound would have exploded left and rear. That didn't happen. Verifying the possibility of Oswald firing all three shots, multiple shooters got off three shots in under six seconds. It's worth noting that they only had a few minutes to familiarize themselves with C2766 (Oswald's rifle). According to his own wife, Oswald practiced dry-firing his rifle numerous times on their back porch. Therefore, it is reasonable that Oswald struck his target 2 of 3 times in 5-8 seconds.

[@canadianroot]

redbastine I think it flies in the face of the destroyed evidence that clearly shows a rear of the skull exit wound. But everybody has their own opinion. (I never get testy with someone when they speak in a courteous manner, but I strongly disagree with the lone shooter theory).

[@canadianroot]

TheMrktd1 Hooey. Oswald was as guilty of killing JFK as Osama bin Laden was of pulling off 9/11. The theory has been destroyed by mountains of evidence (even though mountains of evidence implicating others was destroyed) and the fact that anyone thinks otherwise is mind-boggling. He eviscerated nothing. Sweet.

[@TheMrktd1]

canadianroot Well lookie here---a 911 toofer douchebag. Who could have seen THAT coming? LOL!!!

[@TheMrktd1]

canadianroot While you are at it, girly boy, do tell us how the ITEC Corp. got the enhanced film interpretation wrong. Use your words.

[@paystarbuzzy]

Posner says Oswald was a good shot. Yet, he never said where he got the marksmanship information. Every other documentary says convincingly that he had "Maggies drawers," meaning he could not shoot. Posner peddles DISINFORMATIVE HOGWASH! The man is a lawyer, and, as such, is socially and officially condoned form of professional liar.

[@banjohombre]

Maggies' Drawers was a red flag that was shown when a shooter missed the target completely. Oswald received these detriments in the latter part of his enlistment after his stint in the brig and trying to get out of the Marine Corps. LHO was capable of making the much easier shots in Dealy Plaza.

[@paystarbuzzy]

Horseshit! You are wrong. The theoretical shots from the CIA front building known as the TSBD were not easy, sop that makes you some kind of government shill or robot. FUCK YOU!!!

[@banjohombre]

Yet another that does not belong in the conversation.

[@paystarbuzzy]

That is not even a complete sentence. Oswald was a bisexual Bircher triple agent. He got sucked off by General Edwin Walker in early sixties Dallas. AND HE COULD NOT SHOOT!!!

[@cameronsmith8730]

@@banjohombre The easier shots and get away would be from the Knoll.A shooter good enough to peg Kennedy on the move would never fail a shooting test,brig or not.Your banjo awaits you hombre

[@MarkRoberts-bj2me]

The MSM sang nothing but praises for the "Poser's" work of fiction since as late as 1993, after so much scholarly work had been done that easily discredits the WCR as being nothing more than a whitewash, he was a WC apologist. His book has been analyzed by many experts of the assassination and as of this date his work has been thoroughly discredited. One may purchase a hardbound copy for 1 cent on Amazon.

[@FIVEOFEVER]

+Mark Roberts Who has written a credible account of the assassination?

[@MarkRoberts-bj2me]

+Mike T156 The most tired and overused reasoning rears its ridiculous head once again.The more one watches the MSM, the less one knows. BTW, modern research proves LHO was not even on the sixth floor of the TSBD. Read man read!

[@Bigwave2003]

+Mark Roberts Posner and Bugliosi wrote two of the best documented books on the JFK assassination. They have not been discredited. The conspiracy clubbers can say nasty things about them, but that does not discredit them factually.

[@FIVEOFEVER]

***** My evidence is that after 50 plus years nobody has been able to prove a conspiracy. People can't keep secrets so quit making this so complicated. All the hard facts point to LHO and nobody/nothing else.

[@MarkRoberts-bj2me]

Checkm8king2 Sorry pal, many people have spilled the beans. You just haven't done your research. I'll give you two "hard facts". The first rifle found at the TSBD was a German Mauser. Dallas PD has an affidavit on file from their resident gun expert that the Mauser was found before the Carcano. When first asked by the press the results of the paraffin test Police Chief Curry lied and said the results were "positive". It is now public record the results were negative showing that LHO did not fire a rifle on 11/22/63. You are only correct about one thing, the case is complicated. Instead of making absurd remarks for all the world to see, READ!

[@bluesoulreggae1356]

Best book : Top Attorney: Vincent Bugliosi: Reclaiming History- massive award winning work which blows every conspiracy theory out : Oswald did it

[@jamescalifornia2964]

Blue Soul Reggae -- Yes ... Both books are excellent . 👌``

[@nikita-dh5je]

Posner's book has been discredited and is simply a lawyer with the goal of Oswald did it alone already made up, and Bugliosi's book is pretty much the same, a prosecutor who gives us half truths and says what he needs to say to get to his pre-determined goal of Oswald did it alone. Bugliosi's book is awful, except in size. Half truths everywhere, a prosecutor is only supposed to present evidence to convict the defendant, it is up to the defense to show evidence to show the other side. I would never go by a prosecutor's book, or lawyer in general , on the JFK assassination. I prefer investigators who do not have their mind made up and then try to get there. Posner and Bugliosi never explain satisfactorily the nonsensical single bullet theory, or so many things. There is a book by Jim DiEugenio which totally blows Bugliosi's away (Reclaiming Parkland I think) by page by page discrediting Bugliosi's half truths on everything. There is an amusing KZbin video of Vincent Bugliosi having a friendly debate with Jesse Ventura on the JFK assassination, and when Jesse mentions a CIA agent who was a confidant of Oswald, Bugliosi gets nervous and orders the cameraman to stop filming. Sorry to say this, Vincent Bugliosi was a great prosecutor, but was a condescending arrogant person whose book is simply like Posners , just more long winded, and full of half truths.

[@terribleTed-ln6cm]

@@nikita-dh5je good grief.

[@deborahshah9536]

@@nikita-dh5je Thanks for this and taking the unpopular view here. I too have seen Posner's book discredited at the level of small errors. I looked up the Di Eugenio book and am intrigued to see he mentions a Hollywood/CIA connection not least because JFK and RFK themselves were no strangers there.

[@robertromero8692]

@@nikita-dh5je "when Jesse mentions a CIA agent who was a confidant of Oswald, Bugliosi gets nervous and orders the cameraman to stop filming." Bullshit. I watched that video, and Bulgliosi doesn't get "nervous". He just gets tired of Ventura's nonsense. Ventura was talking about George de Mohrenschildt. The HSCA thoroughly checked de Mohrenschildt’s background and concluded that there was “no evidence that de Mohrenschildt had ever been an American intelligence agent.”

[@kennagtved1573]

Would have loved seeing him take questions but it is easier to just present a version you believe in and call it case closed😂

[@aaronz7056]

Questions about *what,* exactly?

[@kickinsnarehat]

I’d love to hear Posner respond to the fact they Shaw was indeed on CIA payroll. He has repeatedly said Garrison was wrong about that and had that information come to light in the trail we’re in a different conversation. Posner just towed the line and said Garrison targeted him for being gay. This crushes Posner’s credibility. He should own up to being wrong.

[@aaronz7056]

@@kickinsnarehat Shaw merely gave info to the Domestic Contract Service, as did thousands of other American businessmen, journalists and travellers. Garrison soundly implicated "gays and masochists" pulling off a "homosexual thrill killing" in this, in addition to about a hundred others.

[@aaronz7056]

@Jack LNU Funny, it's conspiracy theorists who consistently refuse to answer every question I ever ask them.

[@aaronz7056]

@Jack LNU How does a conspiracy framing Oswald know: - exactly where his guns are both kept - he would show up unexpected at the Paine house Nov 21 otherwise they can't pretend he smuggled the rifle - he wouldn't simply stand out on the sidewalk during the parade - no bullets or fragments would ever turn up that don't match to his rifle - he would immediately flee the TSBD - Officer Tippet wouldn't simply outdraw and capture his attacker - Oswald would agree to help frame himself by getting caught red-handed trying to shoot a second cop minutes later with the same gun - Oswald would not make the slightest attempt to blurt out one word about any conspiracy while addressing the world on live TV, would give a hollow, rambling reply to the trick question "Did you shoot the President" and would act so smug he would even convince his own brother he was guilty...?

[@ulicadluga]

It is strange that apparently nobody has noticed the "inter-sprocket" anomaly evident in the "Babushka Lady". The inter-sprocket Zapruder film is rarely found online. I would just kindly ask everyone to examine frames 280 to 296, and observe the "light signal" emitted by the "Babushka Lady" as she drifts into the "inter-sprocket" area of the film.

[@kristofferlind753]

He describes Oswald as unreliable, unstable and unable to hold a job but the fact is that he never missed a day at the book depository. He's boss (mr. Truly ) even described him as a polite young mand, a good worker, above average, who "did a good day's work". And this was weeks before he even knew about Kennedy coming to Dallas. But after the Walker-shooting (according to Posner). I don't get that part. To me, from mr. Trulys testimony, the real life Oswald the weeks before the assassination do not match the man Posner is describing

[@fobrien1]

posner must stick to the chosen lone nut path , no matter how ridiculous it has become .so he simply must stick to the old line that oswald was an unstable , unreliable , loser , loner . what do they base oswald being unstable on ? . in main on an unproven assumption that he shot at walker , when any evidence to the contrary must be ignored . 2 men were seen peering into walkers window 2 nights before the shooting . 2 men (seen by walter coleman )were seen leaving the scene in two cars , one put something long on the back seat before he drove off . obviously two men destroys the lone nut scenario , and oswald did not drive . so this had to be ignored . had coleman seen only one man and no car you can bet they would have said he saw oswald . the lead alloy of the bullet was tested against lead alloy from fragments in the limo , THEY DID NOT MATCH so that info was kept from us . but dont expect posner to mention any of this . the real oswald was a marine , and held a position in the cia ran atsugi base with a high security classification where he monitored the top secret u2 spy flights on radar . he learned russian , one of the most difficult to learn , trust me i know from first hand experience . this guy was no idiot . but you cant be told that because it paints a different picture of oswald that would make you question the official version of events . instead they tell you lies or they twist the truth .they lie that (unstable ) oswald attacked a superior , no he didnt lol , when drunk he accidentally bumped into a superior and spilled his drink on him .they twist the truth and say oswald was court martialed for possession of an illegal weapon . it was a non us marine issue weapon .that is all . they twist the truth and say unstable oswald shot himself , lol the pistol accidentally fell , went off and gave him a small wound . the truth is a beautiful thing , but sadly you wont see much of it from posner .

[@jojobar5877]

Oswald was unstable and a nut. He worked at a welding company in 1962 and quit after 3 months. He worked at a graphic arts firm after and was fired for being rude and starting fights. He worked at a coffee company and was fired from there too. He defected to the Soviet Union and offered them confidential info from his time as a Marine. He was a problem child as well, getting into trouble and was examined by a psychiatrist at a juvenile reformatory. Tell me more what an upstanding guy he was. He was a cold blooded murderer of JFK and poor officer Tippett. To hell with LHO.

[@dESTRON76]

Yeah you would think this would have been all ready to go for the Warren Commission but they never mentioned this stuff. I have never read about any interview where Marina mentions all these things or seen any pictures of her bruised (since apparently she was constantly black and blue) but I have seen pictures of them together looking happy and interviews where she champions his innocence. Basically, it's all he-said-she-said at this point.

[@pattoncarter]

He never missed a day...in five weeks. ok....

[@randyharris3175]

Reclaming History is the best book on the assassanation.But Pozner book is definitely in the top 3.

[@curbozerboomer1773]

Yup! Vincent Bugliosi was a real patriot, for wanting to get this terrible event correctly documented! He had no other motivation for writing this book, as he already was a millionaire from writing other best-sellers. This guy was a great American for doing this.

[@loosegoose2466]

Brilliant 👏 thx for sharing 👏 👍 😊

[@Wombah-rc6zz]

No! THIS is MIND CLOSED!

[@deekdeegler5059]

Lol how can you listen to all this with facts and evidence and still be like nope. This dudes some more research on this than you’ll ever do. He knows the facts and you don’t.

[@nyujay2010]

Excellent presentation! After reading this book and the one written by Bugliosi, "Reclaiming History," only a fool would believe any conspiracy!

[@vernpascal1531]

You got it bass ackwards pal! Nobody with a conscience can believe LHO acted alone.

[@keithmccaslyn2527]

and the same applies for you!! in reverese. TOTAL bullshit!! Malarkey!! Posner Pah-leez!!

[@ryanwilliams6206]

Wrong

[@franclin0]

Very true. problem is, no conspiracy theorist would read these books.

[@simonjames1604]

@@franclin0 i am on the fence and read it. its not a great book, bugolisi cherry picks his witnesses , avoids difficulties especially in eye witness testimony to the shooting and presents almost a complete work of fiction on brennans testimony. brennan was called 3 times by the WC and each time he was quite clear that 1 he heard one shot 2 he never saw the rifle fire, yet vinces book ignores this and makes it seem as if brennan DID see the rifle fire when he clearly did not. the fact that brennan had terrible eyesite all his life wasnt a help, in front of the WRC brennan couldnt recall seeing a scope or any boxes in the window and believed the shooter was standing and when at the police station failed to pick oswald out of a four man lineup. when you know more about some of the witnesses you realized vince is playing fast and loose with the facts to make a circumstantial case seem stronger

[@akumar7366]

Superb presentation, Oswald did it, case closed.

[@mssimon1634]

Michael T. Griffith has written an excellent reply to Posner's book entitled "Hasty Judgment: Why The JFK Case Is Not Closed." It answers the questions Posner didn't want to be confronted with at his presentation in Allen.

[@brendanbrown3100]

Does it say anything about Ruth Paine?

[@aaronz7056]

@@brendanbrown3100 Ruth Paine: takes in a young mother fleeing an abusive husband, tries to help them get back on their feet, and for that she gets to spend six decades listening to people opining she is an accessory to murder and treason with zero evidence...

[@brendanbrown3100]

@@aaronz7056 No good deed goes unpunished.

[@MrWolfmantim]

So Mr. Griffith wrote yet another book criticizing the clear conclusion. I bet he had no solid evidence and that he named no organization specifically as THE conspirators... So easy to make a living writing vague books, isn't it?

[@j.dragon651]

Is his conjecture? What is his motive for writing the book?

[@joedoe-sedoe7977]

The whole investigation was supposed to be an in your face joke but im surprised how many follow it as legit, Dulles was fired from CIA by Kennedy but they put him on the warren commission, Johnson hated the Kennedys and being second fiddle he replaced the limo body and continued using instead of preserving it as a historical artifact (allegedly it was riddled with holes) JEHoover was a regular at the race track and he declined to even acknowledge the existence of the mob and resented his boss Bobby and brother John who took the opposite view and were about to force him into retirement ,under this framework we are asked to accept Hoover as the chief investigator?? Finally if that aint enough the autopsy was a complete comedy with loss of reports and blunders and a pristine bullet falls out on the gurney after traveling a zigzag pattern through two bodies and then they lost the most important organ,, Kennedys brain,, that could easily conclude the claim of shots coming from a different direction, but you dont even need that you could examine the skull today and conclude the direction just as a BB tells you direction of travel on a window. So here we are over 50 years later with people that still believe Posner without ever looking at what we already know is fact and I only listed a fraction of whats easily available to all these anti conspiracy pin heads. Lets face it if the CIA the FBI and the mob were in control this is exactly what it would look like wouldnt it? Oh yes, Ruby, the mobster and strip club owner gave his life to spare Jackie the stress of going to a trial right? Is that not a joke?

[@suzannek3493]

Exactly .. who is the nut if they cn't see the obvious corruption and handiwork of people at the top desperate to maintain their power

[@aaronz7056]

There's so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin... lol

[@ahope4u2]

Nope, way too many none factual claims unsupported by evidence.....

[@VTPSTTU]

Military ball ammunition isn't more lethal than frangible ammunition. I'm disappointed by Posner's presentation. I expected something better and more substantive.

[@brucegame1458]

are you fucked ?

[@VTPSTTU]

You are clearly too stupid for further conversation. Welcome to the blocked list.

[@MyXxx77]

Sometimes the facts don't match up to your fantasies... sorry.

[@sgtcwhatley]

I'm disappointed by the reply comments. The original post is correct.