Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM II Review: The Lensiest of Lenses

[@alberte6109]

Why am I watching this, I should be asleep, I got a homework pending, I don't have a sony camera, and I don't even have a camera.

[@urfellowvietnamese6445]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@huayrix]

A sign of true passion. :)

[@stephencolor2010]

It's noon on the east coast. You in Iran?

[@AmieW]

"and i can't even afford this lenses"

[@diba4645]

Bored, ha?

[@DavidZhou]

Video starts at 00:00, you’re welcome.

[@mustakinhashim]

Something therapeutic watching a lens review

[@aightdenn]

…especially from the master reviewing G masters.

[@mustakinhashim]

@@aightdenn absolutely 🔥

85 GM I was sharp compared to old EF and F lenses, but compared to basically any newer Sony E lens it isn't that sharp, even struggles to beat 85/1.8 FE which is sooo much cheaper but at the time of release it was fantastic and it held up pretty well upgrade from Sony side was really needed and so far it looks like they did a good job

[@McMurdo]

The mark 1 had a notorious issue with making a grinding sound while autofocusing. Sony would not officially accept it was a warranty issue, but would replace it you pushed hard enough. Glad to see a new, lighter and faster focusing version. Strangely, I like aesthetic of the old bulbous body. Thanks for an another great video. 🍻

[@jeans2679]

precisely why i didnt buy the mki and went with the 1.8 as i was waiting for this!

[@skymakai]

And noticeable internal debris seemingly having been the affect of the grinding of internal parts.

[@nothingtobeconcernedabout7477]

I saw the price at which you can preorder it here in Europe. The GM is RRP at 1799, but you get it new in stores generally for 1500. The new GM II was up for pre order at 2100. That would be about 600 more than the first version. The 50 1.2 is 2299, so the new 85 1.4 would only be 200 less than a 1.2 prime... I was for sure interested in the GM II but not if that is the price hike here in Europe

[@george_christov]

I just saw the Europe price too. No words...

[@Donbros]

Agree, not worth it, big flop release

[@christophmayer3991]

Yep, and then you see the Sigma 85mm f1.4 DG DN Art for sub 1000€ brand new or 750-850€ second hand in very good condition. Sure the GM II is slightly better and lighter, but that's not remotely worth 1000+ bucks (literally more than double the price)

[@tokekkk]

Just wait a few months / a year. 50mm 1.2 GM are heavily discounted right now.

[@youknowwho9247]

I agree. I was absolutely certain I'd sell my sigma and pre-order the GM II. Then I saw that it's north of 2 grand. Nope, absolutely not.

[@Francisco_Otero]

Sigma 85 1.4 is the real winner here! Thanks Gerald!!

[@feederbrian9457]

LOVE my Sigma 85. That thing is absurdly sharp, and I was wondering how it holds up to the GMII

[@StandardYoutuberExcellent]

Selling mine yesterday!

[@TheGeoDaddy]

So I went GM all the way; 14mm, 24mm, 35mm, 50mm primes and zoom 16-35mm and 24-70mm… 85mm and 135mm I saved some $$$ and opted for Samyang… simply because I mostly do Video and little else… Don’t you know, my last shoot we had a legitimate need for 85mm so my Samyang finally got some use! I doubt there would have been an appreciable difference… maybe slightly better auto re-focusing on my moving subjects… but not on my list (dare I say, hope NOT having to buy another lens… ever again 😏

[@MrsJones-lz8xn]

only poor user used sigma.

[@stevofoo]

Sigma bokeh ball edge is very sharp..

[@jeroenvdw]

Rare to see the Sigma equivalent being lighter than the Sony version!

[@spencerl885]

At 10:25 the side by side portrait shots the new lens gives a much punchier more depth 3D looking image than the old one. Also the Fence and Rope shots with fringing were interesting. The Blue fringe on the white rope makes the image look more 'milky' like comparing a standard LED TV to an OLED TV in image. I'm surpised the conclusion was the new lens is slightly better because it looks WAY better. So much more image pop.

[@richt-1]

Nice segway to the Storyblocks read Gerald. Very natural.

[@niahrosephoto]

Been waiting 3+ years for this lens! Did not disappoint 😍

[@glovearm]

I replayed the ad 3 times, just to thank you for free.

[@Chris-bz9pg]

you don’t get more money as a youtuber for that. the sponsor pays a set amount for the sponsored portion regardless of how many people watched that portion of the video.

[@glovearm]

@@Chris-bz9pg good to know, analytics are evolving though, I’m sure it’s a type of proof on some level, but I was just kidding. I don’t really waste my time trying to rig algorithms.

[@LukeMaximoBell1]

If you want to support the creator get KZbin premium. It gives about 10x the revenue to who you are watching

[@Vsmit00]

@@glovearm Technically you're giving him more watch time, which is good, but I don't know if just the 2 extra times makes a huge difference.

[@aratafreecs3445]

Great video and representation of what the new 85 GM II is and isn't. Sadly, I am actually not too excited about this lens. I am very happy with my Sigma 85mm f/1.4, which I got because the old 85 GM was quite a bit softer, but I would've switched for an 85 f/1.2, which is the lens I expected Sony to make to compete with the Canon and Nikon 85 1.2 lenses. I didn't think they'd make another 85 1.4.

[@TonyLing-l4x]

I love your reviews Gerald! Best in the business for getting undone.

[@anchorsanvils]

As always a very honest review and calms the gear acquisition syndrome symptoms. I have the Sigma 90mm f2.8 and I love it, small little package that delivers stunning images.

[@Miguel_2.O]

Great review! Would love to see a comparison between the Sony 85mm 1.4 GMII and the Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG Dn Art Lens which is much less expensive.

[@feederbrian9457]

My thoughts too. That thing is so sharp. I want to see how well it holds up.

[@redsox7897]

Sigma still wins

[@Darkhorsemultimedia1]

Can we get an R5ii video please?

[@raw_pc]

Great upgrade. Improved in every aspect plus you get additional buttons. Sharpness is the most noticeable difference. Imagine if Sony made 85mm 1.2 with such attention to detail, oh boy. Thanks for sharing Gerold.

[@loudandclearmedia]

12:56 "Buy it or don't...I don't care" Salesman of the month moves right there, man.🤣

[@rickbiessman6084]

Loved that ending! :D Video started so serious, I was hoping for some Gerald shennanigans. I was not disappointed. =)

[@SouBuuS]

Love your reviews man, always straight to the point and not persuading other people to yes upgrade but a real honest opinion! When I heard about the GM ii releasing I already said I wasn't going to upgrade cause the GM i is already a beast.

[@MiddleofKnowhere]

Great review and love the ending. You always crack me up.

[@ldmndz4652]

Very cool..my older 85 1.4GM just gave out on me..this is a much needed upgrade!... Yes 8 years wait is crazy..I dont mind the 1.4...but to nit pick Sony had 8 years to come out with a 1.2!!!..come on!! and for them to just release a 1.4 II..is kinda disappointing...yes I will pick one up..but if Sigma releases a new 85 1.2..then I might have to certainly rethink about selling this 1.4 II..lol

[@6gwilliams]

Gerald, I owned the 85mm f1.4 GM version one, and it is soft at f1.4 (all independent tests show that) , and it is slow and noisy in focusing, just a fact. Overweight and overpriced IMHO. I could not match portrait and corporate shots for sharpness and IQ when I shot jobs with both my Sony 135mm f1.8 GM and the version one Sony 85mm f1.4 GM. The 85mm GM shots were just inferior in IQ and sharpness, just a fact. I sold the 85mm GM and got the much better Sigma Art 85mm f1.4 DG DN lens and most independent testing shows the Sigma is hands-down the best E-mount 85mm lens on the market, sharper, faster focusing, better rendering, less cost than the 85mm GM. I can readily match shots for sharpness and IQ when I use both my Sony 135mm f1.8 GM and my Sigma Art 85mm f1.4 DG DN on the same job. This new 85mm GM II is really only needed if you need to shoot the 85mm at 30fps on the A1 or 120fps on the A9III. This International Award Winning Pro of 50 years in the business has owned Sony A6500, A7RII, A7RIII, A7III, A9, A7RIV, A7SIII, and currently own A1, A9III, A7RV. For my A7RV, the Sigma is all I would need in an 85mm lens, no need for this more expensive GM II. For fast fps sports shooting, yes the new 85mm GMII would be good for 30fps with my A1, and 120 fps on my A9III. But if Sony would lift its artificial coding restriction on third=party lenses, they could do 30fps and 120fps. Thanks and Cheers from one Gerald to another Gerald.

[@charlesianima]

No, you're UNDONE. MOAR.

[@thomasbatters]

No comments on Sony initially hinting on a 1.2 and coming out with a 1.4? Any chance that has to do with limits on the mount size? I’m a Sony shooter but wondering if Sony found its theoretical limit.

[@daysandwords]

I went from a Nikon D750 with the relevant Nikon, Tamron and Sigma lenses, up to the S5 II with some only OK lenses (Panasonic S primes, mainly), and found that although each of these upgrades that they make every few years is not very big, over that kind of time (a 2012 camera and 2008/2010 lenses to 2021, 2022 era lenses and body), the difference became really noticable. Now, when I shoot on my D750, the images do like kind of "old", meaning, basically not super sharp and a bit grainy at more than ISO 800. But also, I have lots of printed photos on my wall from 2012, and none from 2024... so...

[@dannyli9424]

As the owner of 85GM , I have to say I respectfully dis agree with you when you said : G master 1 is really sharp when against the other lenses," in fact, I found even the cheap Sony 85 1.8 is sharper than my 85 GM at the edge, not to mention other E-mount 85 I own, the Zeiss Loxia 85 is day and night sharper than the 85GM wit much better local contrast, , the Zeiss Milvus 85 1.4 also sharper, and even the Zeiss Batis is sharper than the GM, the original 85 GM it's one I consider with least sharpness 85 mm I own, yes I own all those mentioned.. so I am not surprised at all the GM II is sharper than the GM1, it would be really disappointing if it is not.However, sharpness is not the #1 consideration for portrait lens, that's why I own one at the first place. Looking at the bigger picture, when you compare this new 85 GM II to the competitors 85 1.2, I would say the GM II is still fall behind a little bit, as a multiple system user myself, I would still prefer if Sony introduce a 1.2 version with better Bokeh, with that being said, my Z 85 1.2 S and Milvus 85 1.4 is no going anywhere. if some day I really want a native 85 on my Sony platform ( because my GM was sold and anticipating the 85 1.2GM), , I will just pick up a used Sigma 85 dg dn for fractions the cost of the GM.

[@sgpork]

I have the GM i since day 1.. the only problem is the lens AF really slow.. I mean it's really slow. Even 1/500 for slow moving subject.. in burst mode.. only 1st pic and maybe 4th pic is sharp. The rest are all not pin sharp. It's crazy. I dont have such issue on my 35GM or 50GM etc. even at 1/125..

[@nuiizthanachart3425]

so damn hope it was 1.2 I'm sick with the Sigma close performance and a lot cheaper! Thanks for the review!

[@Kharrari]

God I love this review. So real. Just what I needed to know. I really love your videos. Thank you for time.

[@sidvicious3129]

It seems that a lot of the newer GM are an improvement over the old ones with the exception of the 16-35 GM, which most are saying the 16-35 GM II isn't worth the upgrade. I would like to see the newer 85mm GM II vs Sigma's newest 85mm. Thanks again Gerald for doing this.

[@jamieflood]

I immediately sent my sony 85 mk1 back as it was so loud. Ive been waiting for this upgrade for what seems an age so I hope its significantly quieter

[@KaceyBakerFilms]

Was surprised when you said you’re required to sent it back. I think influencers with over 400k should be remunerated with the lens itself given you are marketing their product to more people than a tv advertising campaign. Love your channel as always mate. Been watching you for a couple of years, what are your thoughts on someone close to 50 with two small children starting a channel like yours, I like the idea but apprehensive about the labour needed to sustain a channel. Thoughts or advice.

[@charlesdavidmedia]

Thanks again for an honest review. I’m amazed by the sharpness difference, I can see it on my phone which is usually not the case when watching youtube videos on a small screen. This lens is definitely for new customers, it’s not a major upgrade from the old 85mm GM

[@brianbeattyphotography]

looks like a good improvement. although I do think we're firmly at the point of diminishing returns with camera gear. V1 is excellent

[@PaulM28]

Last time I was this early, Gerald was talkinabootKAEMRUZ?

[@jumabannister]

This video has THE BEST TITLE EVER.

[@Hdfromabove]

How would you compare these to the Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG DN?

[@EvanA.]

Significantly better in terms of auto-focus speed, better distortion handling, -and it has a lock on the aperture ring- .... at twice the cost. Really depends on how you'll be using the lens.

[@MichaelBriggs3]

Is your main talking head shot soft/out of focus? Looks different than usual.

[@MedikationYT]

I really wanna try this 85mm lens for my videos!

[@michaelpoczynek]

Interesting review. Makes me want to be a portrait shooter. 😀

[@rolandrickphotography]

Thanks for the very informative comparison 👍🏻. - I love my a9 iii if it comes to autofocus performance and preshooting capabilities (2nd one is why I got the a9 III instead of Z6 III and the 2 lenses I use are the new 300 2.8 with 1.4x and 2x teleconverter and the 70-700 GMII). But if it comes to image quality, like at 8:56, the Z lenses such as the inexpensive Z 85 1.8 S blow the GM lenses off the table. Wide open zero fringing, edge to edge sharp and reliable Nikon water and dust resistant, as the bodies are, for those who can’t imagine what I’m talking about, watch Morten Hilmer’s Z6 III video

[@pianoman1973]

Thanks for the review ! In the focusing tests where you walked towards the camera , you mentioned 92% of the shots were in acceptable focus. Which aperture did you use for these tests ? Thanks !

[@KSmedia13]

Random question on the manual focus ring, Gerald: do you think that can get looser over time/use and you’re just experiencing a focus ring that is new vs old?

[@cameraprepper7938]

12:00 forget speed, with a 24 megapixels camera you will not see much difference in image quality, but if you like me have 61 megapixels Cameras, then you will absolutely see the difference ! I have got the new Sony 85mm 1.4 GM II, it is excellent, handles well and the images are super sharp, sharper than the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM, I can highly recommend the new Sony 85m 1.4 GM II Lens ! If you want something that are more light weight and if you do not need aperture 1.4 or an aperture ring and a AF/MF switch, then go for a used Zeiss Batis Sonnar 85mm 1.8 T* used, got one in 2023 for US $550 (taxes included) in excellent condition, the Zeiss Lens is light and easy to handle, it is a joy to use and I can recommend it.

[@jay9699]

Mk2 looks great. Love your reviews as always! Thanks so much.

[@cloudyrain0064]

Can you compare this to the Mike 85 f1.4 to see the real difference between GM lenses and more budget friendly lenses?

[@stevenwaldstein2249]

I’m not a video shooter and I own the version 1. I’ve considered buying the upgrade but may just pass since I also have the 50/1.2 GM and 135/1.8 GM to use along side it for portraits. Weight reduction and AF speed are what I’m considering the most but will have to determine if 5he update is worth the cost. Thank you and take care.

[@GreatCassian]

Why was this Sony 85mm f/1.4 GM II review prioritized over the Canon R5II test? I am extremely excited about the R5II test.

[@lyndonlabayan]

Camera Canada was also the only ones stocking the L mount lumix grips when it was special order everywhere else. I love that. I bought one!

[@m.t.5805]

Gerald any plans to review the new polar pro chroma vnd filters? 😊

[@DevonLad]

For weddings I still prefer the original f1.4. Modern mirrorless lenses have become so sharp, almost 'clinical' feeling? I love the look of the old one for my weddings photos.

[@bruck177]

Raw Gerald is best Gerald

[@EuroRSN]

Been using the original 85mm 1.4 since 2019 and the sharpness can be abit softer at times but it was never really an issue. Especially if you're going for more of a filmic look and don't need clinical sharpness then the gm1 is more than enough. The AF noise is there but primarily in AF-S, almost non existent in AF-C. Would be great to see Sony release a 1.2 in the near future like they did with the 50mm. Don't think I'll be upgrading at this point. Thanks for the review Gerald.

[@dannyli9424]

So true, also a 85GM user at one point, the sharpness of the GM is never the selling point of that lens ( FOR ME anyway), it was the Bokeh quality, in fact, the lens is pretty soft when compare to my Loxia 85, Milvus 85 and even the chap Sony 85 1.8.

[@aightdenn]

I think it was your original video on the 85 1.4 GM vs their 85 1.8 G which made be end up purchasing the 1.8, specifically because I didn’t want the focus motor noise. Thanks for making this review. Good to consider when and if I upgrade that lens.

[@studiotrics]

sir can u tell me which keyaboard u ar using

[@gamebuster800]

i kinda like the GMI look a bit more. The GMII is sharper, but it almost looks too perfect, and I don't want that on a portrait lens. 10:53 is a perfect example - the GMI looks much better.

[@michaelsmithers3226]

Would have loved a comparison to the sigma 85 1.4

[@samuelbeniuga9116]

Manny Ortiz has one on his channel

[@Donbros]

I am very dissaoponted they didnt release 1.2 and now i am wondering why i have just bought 70-200

[@nordfilmcompany]

Used the Mark I a few days back and it was almost too sharp for my taste, so I don’t think you can go wrong with either one of these!

[@matthewfedder706]

Well, was really hoping the mark II had enough improvements in auto focus to warrant the upgrade, but looks like we'll be sticking with our mark I and hoping it lasts us after it gets back from Precision Repair. $500 for a new autofocus ring, went out with no damage after a few years.

[@BillyVerden]

Cool video.. but it was kind of weird to me.. the version 2 was clearly sharper with richer colors and you said it was quieter and lighter.. yet you didn't really seem to want to like it for some reason.. lol. That's just my opinion.. I'm probably wrong tho.. Either way.. Thanks for the Video!

[@madclancrew]

Has there been any word if Sony is going to upgrade their 24-105 f4. I know it's not a GM, but it would be nice.

[@lauriewahlig2819]

Thank you for your honesty!!! I sooooo wish they’d made a 1.2 instead!

[@LukeMaximoBell1]

They made the 50mm f1.2, but people generally prefer the f1.4. The 1.2 is heavy and not very different look.

[@EdvardKALEN]

But it would have been very expensive, and the 85mm 1.4 clearly needed to be upgraded. Perhaps the 85mm 1.2 will still be released as a more expensive, heavier and premium lens

[@ViktorKallbergFoto]

Great video as always! Quite helpful to see that they're not all that different after all. Not sure I'll be upgrading from the original GM...

[@rickymcc8624]

Thanks for the review. Given how mkii improvements have come to many GM optics I was anticipating this upgrade to the slowish focusing 85 original GM from about 2 years ago. Slightly surprised it took this long, but I'm used to being spoiled by Sony and pleased it's now finally here 😊. I will probably buy in due course. Right now I'm honestly not unhappy with the underrated and otherwise terrific value Sony 85mm G f1.8. I'm lucky being able to afford lots of Sony lenses, so will probably buy this as I didn't really rate the original which is why I bought the compact G f1.8. If I do buy I need to consider if I should sell my G. I might just keep both (sorry if that sounds profligate). All I'm saying is this new lens is undoubtedly great, but not an immediate priority for me right now. Sure this mkii will be better, faster focusing, slightly sharper, better in many ways (bar cost and heft') than the 'poot relation' G variant.

[@reeduedu]

Where is the end music? I watched to the end for that.

[@welcti]

Yeah, it's a 9 year difference between lenses, but the original 85 GM - even if not considered to be one of the best GMs - was still a GM-quality prime. It's hard to improve that much when the standard is so high to begin with, but I think a lighter and smaller lens with much faster focusing, quiet focusing, a sharper image, and much less noticeable CA fits the bill, when you're improving on what was considered to be a top-quality lens to begin with. I just wish it was 1.2, as had been rumored.

[@AgentStarke]

I love watching reviews for lenses I'm too poor to afford

[@mattslaboratory5996]

Well written as usual. It's about lenses, man.

[@RGPhotobiz]

This is definitely one of the lenses of all time.

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video Gerald! Thanks for making it. Thanks to Mark Bennett's video about your studio, I am now too distracted by the bananas to pay attention to anything else.

[@petrsuchy]

Great video, thank you. I just noticed you switched the lenses side in the review a few times. I mean when comparing photos in Lightroom, there's GM II on the left and GM I on the right. But when you were comparing autofocus in video in the studio, they were switched - GM I on the left and GM II on the right? Would it be possible to keep the "sides" of the lenses throughout the whole video? So I would know that for example on the left is the new lens and on the right is the old one and I could remember it for the whole video and wouldn't have to read the title every time. Thank you!

[@ChadAltDelete]

It's easily one of the most lenses of all time.

[@coin777]

original

[@ChadAltDelete]

@coin777 I saw that you liked your own comment. Nice

[@coin777]

@@ChadAltDelete why even post anything if you dont like it?

[@oneaznbmf]

I noticed that the GII has a bit more compression compared to GI.

[@ferociousbiscuit]

I've been waiting for this lens to be the 85mm I buy. My only disappointment is that it has a 77mm filter diameter and mot 67mm like the 24/1.4, 35/1.4, and 50/1.4 GM lenses.

[@dannyli9424]

I am actually also disappoint it about the 77mm, wish it is a 82, so I can share filter with my magnetic ND/black mist filter with my other 85 1.2, 135 1.8 portrait lenses. LOL. everyone want something different, LOL.

[@ferociousbiscuit]

@@dannyli9424 I'd totally be okay with 82 too. 77 is just the worst of both sitting right in the middle.

[@q3aki]

to be honest this portrait comparison simply shows, that we're at the point that camera lenses are superb but boring. Each one is super sharp, AF works really good etc etc, but the dofferences are just minor

[@JanLeviSanchez]

i had a problem with my 85 ver 1 before. i sent it to SOny to had it recalibrated, it turned out well.. looking at the comparison, it kinda looked like that.. but you mentioned that the original is already sharp and the ver 2 is that sharper, dang.. i wanna test one just to see too.. always a good review from you mah man!

[@billmakesmovies]

Hope to see the rest of the set in a GMII soon then! I want a 24 or 35 first I think before I go 85, since I have the 70-200 GMII already. Of course I know I'll end up with the whole set eventually...

[@EdvardKALEN]

But 35mm was announced only 3 years ago...

[@beinfocusacademy]

Where is your canon r5ii review? Cant wait for it❤

[@BrandonColePhotography]

I dont know what Sony is thinking. This should have been a 1.2 hands down. The 85mm 1.2 is an untapped market for Sony because NOBODY makes a 1.2 for Sony E mount. Not sigma , tamron nobody. This was a complete overlook and trying to compare the sales of the 50mm to estimate what the 85 will do was just dumb. Now when Sigma drops the first 85mm 1.2 for Sony E mount they will regret it . Whoever dropped the 85 1.2 for Sony would've sold like crazy and Sony completely missed the opportunity especially when the Sigma 85 is so close to accuracy of this lens and not that far up. So dumb. Sigma your up, hopefully they do not make the same mistake. It's just crazy to me how the 85 1.2 is untapped and nobody is gonna come get this money. Sigma will make a 1.2 and completely steal the temporary light of the GM II

[@youknowwho9247]

I strongly disagree. At 35mm, maybe a 1.2 makes sense, but not at 85. Depth of field at 1.4 is already razor thin and the extra 3rd stop of light is not worth the trade off in weight and price. I'm very happy that Sony went with the sensible and practical option rather than competing in a pointless arms race.

[@dannyli9424]

as a multiple system user and owner of the Nikon 85 1.2 S, I really really wish this is a F1.2, that would make a perfect combo with my Sigma 35 F1.2 and 135 1.8, I sold the original GM years ago anticipating the 85 1.2, then the Nikon 1.2 came out and I picked one up and now never miss my original GM a minute, but if this is a 85 F1.2 GM I will pick one up right away also. oh well, maybe they wil do the F1.2 just like they did with the 50mm

[@BrandonColePhotography]

@@youknowwho9247 How can you say it doesnt make since with Canon has had a 1.2 in both EF and also in RF. They love having a 1.2. Even Nikon has a 1.2 so your comment doesnt make sense. Shooters want the 1.2

[@BrandonColePhotography]

@@dannyli9424 Exactly

[@SoftKitty0930]

Gotta get the new 85/1.4 for some 120 FPS portrait shots on the A9 III

[@Jbobonline]

Call that a sprint, Gerald? While definitely faster than I am, that’s trotting at best ❤

[@simpletimes2819]

Gerald Please do a crossover with Corridor crew, they are insanely good at knowing cameras but would still be fun to watch

[@Zakna]

why not compare it with the Sigma 85 1.4 DG DN ?

[@leventebaumann6001]

Why Sony product tested so quick after launc and Cannon not?

[@therealsergio]

I'm curious with the Sigma 85 Art being almost as good (in some respects better) than the old GM, the markup is even steeper, and I am not hearing the amazing value provided. Sorry I don't have an A9iii

[@anttiranki3690]

Buy a GM 1 second hand after the launch and save about 800 bucks

[@ericheick7044]

I have one and its an amazing lens!

[@Kevon420]

Or just get the Sigma lens if you dont mind the FPS limiter thing.

[@ericheick7044]

@@Kevon420 The sigma lens was a little too big

[@ericheick7044]

@@Kevon420 but its a fantastic lens!

[@marioarias9942]

Not the dg dn 85 1.4 it’s lighter then the original Art lens .

[@BrandonMario]

R6 II 6K Raw 👀 Hey Gerald, please take a look at the R6 II 6K Raw.

[@blanklife2025]

i think there isn't a huge improvement over c log 3 maybe like 1-1.5 stop increases in terms of dynamic range but yeah i too would love to see a video from gerald on this matter .

[@firpofutbol]

If you dont already own an 85 1.4 then this is a great lens to invest in. But if you already do then don't see a compelling reason to "upgrade". If it was a 1.2 then it'd be a different story.

[@shorn77777]

has anyone found any type of distortion on GM 1.

[@outdoortherapy6596]

Thank you, you just saved me AU $3000 thinking I needed the mark ii over my existing one

[@joesomsom]

Hi Gerald, I pressed liked for this video. Haha this lens would probably only be mounted on my camera from rentals because I already own a Sigma 85mm f1.4 dg DN; but ya your portrait looks a lot more shaper and more brilliant on my Aorus FI27Q-P. But I have to note though as my a7sIII body gets more firmware updates and Sigma lens gets none and living in a humid environment like Taipei--I have encountered some unable to focus situations where I indeed tried to focus in less than 85cm. So I can see why this lens 85GM II can definitely be better in a paid contract and more controlled situations. Anyways, I recently saw the truly mounted glassses type of lenses; I wish Sigma or Sony could release those and my local vendors or rentals can work with those future conceptual glasses lens rentals (haha just trying to share thoughts in the comment). I really liked this video and I’m done leaving this comment 😂

[@lmhkt]

So basically nothing to write home about. Thanks for the review!

[@dannyli9424]

That's exactly what I feel too, faster focus is giving, you can't find any lens with the kind of focus speed as the original GM so we don't need to read any review to know the AF is greatly improved, LOL.

[@ERP_Klim]

I was using 85 1.4 GM for 5 years, and I don't know if you were lucky, but in video, AF is trash. It can't catch up with the subject at all, and you can hear how hard the motor is trying to move that hufe glass inside. In my opinin, don't get 85 1.4GM I in any cercamstance. It's so bulky that it will always hit your tripod mount or something. The sharpness also says for itself. Get Mark 2 guys, don't even look at the first one, it is probably slowest lense I used on a Sony system, out of 15 lenses at least.

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

[@marcback1]

The mark 1 was one of the "weakest" lense in the GM line-up.

[@urbanie]

true, always thought it cant be that bad in terms of AF and then i got to use it. it was all true unfortunately 🤣. what would you say is the weakest lens in the gm lineup? maybe 100mm STF or something

[@LUITESLIFE]

Begins by saying they're not that different and then shows it's better in each and every way. Decent update I would say.

[@syksystransitagency]

I have the 1.8 version, which to my knowledge is even more ancient than the GM mark 1. Not that I don't want F1.4 or something, but the size is just to great on the 1.8. Maybe someday when / if (STRONG if) I start professional photography then maybe yes, but the F1.8 will remain for now. The aperture ring is tempting though :D Great video!

[@QuietOC]

The F1.8 came out a year after the original GM and supports the full framerates of the A1 and A9III unlike the older GM.

[@jeroenvdw]

This lens is €2100, ouch! While the Sigma is sometimes on sale for €900, and €1100 normal price