Geralt Outsmarts the Golem - Secrets of Loc Muinne - Witcher 2

[@Infernal460]

You know the sadest thing, he his the nicest person we meet in this game who is older than a child.

[@DialogueWithTheStarsHD]

The trolls near Vergen were kinda nice too though.

[@waszmoscaiden1242]

Memori4 Well... He wasn't that nice for elfs and onions

[@Bronzescorpion]

Would somebody please think of the onions.

[@siontheundeadjuggernaut9277]

Infernal460 It's not even a person it's an elemental or relict or whatever..search the bestiary

[@firmak2]

@@siontheundeadjuggernaut9277 what is the diffrence between a person and a relic that acts like its human?

[@milanthemadman]

Witcher DESTROYS Golem with FACTS and LOGIC

[@B0Sajwah]

lmaoooo

[@vitcermak7737]

@@B0Sajwah with breaking logical determinism to be precise

[@HeyItsNate2]

damn Geralt kills a golem with a paradox

[@Zw285]

*existential crisis intensifies*

[@Craccpot]

Dearhanna should've programmed a conflict resolution mechanism whereby paradox = intruder. It's like stopping a divide by zero.

[@suny0000]

wafzulmi52 and what if it was a guest? killing not guilty person? It’s a crime beyond acceptance.

[@qaasi95]

+neovintage Going by that fucking Eye of Sauron fire laser, I'm pretty sure stopping intruders is a bit higher on Dearhenna's priority list.

[@rami8896]

@@suny0000 Im pretty sure a lot of people in the witcher universe don't care about what is considered a crime.

[@ItsMeStrider]

@@rami8896 it would be for the golem tho

[@chickenmonger123]

Nick R Therefore intruder. Therefore dead.

[@xuelee7520]

"We've Done it!" Even though it was all Geralt's work.

[@nadrewod999]

Probably just a single standard line for "defeating the golem", with the game expecting the player to have to fight the golem.

[@hu4ngming]

Lol, but we control him to do his work. Two hands to clap

[@slyoperator7723]

So basically Geralt's options were: -Break his heart Or -B l o w h i s m i n d

[@sauronmordor7494]

^^

[@KalilIllinois]

A Man of culture, I see

[@sauronmordor7494]

@@KalilIllinois ok

[@tylertheultimatebadass87]

That is one selectively deaf golem. Geralt openly stated he wanted to mess with the it, which qualifies him to be an intruder, yet it did nothing, even though he could plainly hear him.

[@aguyontheinternet9095]

Yes and no. The golem states that only those who try to pass without the master's permission would be considered an intruder, and the act of asking is not the same as doing. The golem wits were, arguably, too sharp so there was nothing that should have been able balance on the edge. Also it would be unfortunate for ol dearhenna if he made asking about his notes a tag for intruder as if he himself asked for the notes it would either cause the golem to attack or fall apart at the paradox of the master being tagged as an intruder. TLDR it would be rude for the golem to fistmurder a guest simply for asking what they can and cannot do, and the golem's master had polite, if stern, intentions when making this golem.

[@Daedalus_9]

It's probably implied the three are whispering to each other, or just distance themselves from the Golem before talking but they didn't figure they need to animate it and such.

[@tylertheultimatebadass87]

@@Daedalus_9 Ah, the Family-Guy-People-Talking-To-Each-Other trope. I should have thought of that

[@romansybsmansy]

Geralt messed with him in an “unmessed” way. By simply asking if the golem will allow him to try to mess or not. A big hole in the golem’s creation that he only judge by actions and approaches but not with intentions, thus making him a pure little kid maybe.

[@batt0usai377]

GOD I LOVED TW2, storytelling at its absolute best. Thank you YT for random recommendation.

[@xLetalis]

hey

[@batt0usai377]

xLetalis my g, keep making banger contents.

[@Finalhellmaster]

"What is my purpose?""You pass butt...I mean, you greet guest"

[@wesleybradshaw2609]

AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[@thelastprussian6491]

... o my god

[@Finalhellmaster]

@@wesleybradshaw2609 HAH!!! Fooled you!

[@SirRavix]

This is one of my favorite parts in Witcher 2. I really like that quest.

[@goblinounours]

*Adalbert* - _"We've done it!"_ *Geralt* - _"BULLSH!T! I've done all the talking!"_

[@Roni77340]

Shame that we didnt have this type of dialogs with golems in witcher 3

[@JohnPorkVickers]

Yeah a golem like this could've fitted well in "The tower outta nowhere" quest, since it's a similar situation to this. Maybe you could have a conversation like this to the security system instead of the front door golem.

[@DragonRage61]

(9:23) - The poor golem crumbled into pieces! How sad! It could've been a cool companion for the final battle!

[@nicholaswulf4563]

So Descartes works against golems. Who knew? Perhaps Platon works against Succubus and Kant against Trolls? Then again... everything with many words in it works against tolls...

[@lindinle]

i did this and the option didnt appear.

[@shinmalphur9214]

It's a shame he had to die.

[@xLetalis]

Here's something curious, in Kazakh dearhana means pharmacy :)

[@josipvaljeta6619]

Can you learn what the code is instead of breaking it?

[@xLetalis]

not sure

[@orrthehunter]

Talk about having your mind blown.

[@drazarkabalblade9486]

I always liked this bugger. I wonder how many other golems are like it, or even more open to conversations d: Then again, these kinds of golems have a tendency to go berserk and squash a lot of people anyway..

[@iare19]

if you invoked the greeting law he would've told you his name :D

[@bthy384]

I really wish there were sentient golems in 3

[@xLetalis]

yeah, this one was great

[@J_just_J_yes]

tag: mind break

[@spikegilfer1997]

Golem is become error.

[@J_just_J_yes]

too bad the golem eye is pure white, or else we can have the ahegao too, crappa :v

[@Halopen94]

I think he meant something else with that lol

[@ProudNL99]

A man of culture, eh?

[@iranoutofgoodnames4140]

Dangling... participle... *golem dies*

[@monkiplatts9224]

Geralt: I have other questions, do you play Gwent? Golem: naturally

[@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k]

Back then geralt used to roll the dice.

[@NtoTheM]

OH MY GOD, YOU KILLED THE POOR GOLEM WITH HIS OWN BRAIN! He was so smart and as said, a masterpiece of magic work. And Geralt just mindfucks him. :(

[@navidsoleimani2848]

All your base belong to us haha

[@FBI-sq9ub]

This is basically me after getting to know where children come from

[@mattj3973]

Never had the chance to ask for directions to the bathroom. Lol 🤣

[@WeatherMan404]

i really hate that quests are locked depending who you side with like i would like to do this quest if i sided with Roche and choose to save Saskia

[@bzqp2]

Remember fellow wizards, always catch exceptions.

[@geraltofrivia4845]

this was me after reading Descartes for the first time.

[@joaocarlospaesjr2324]

I went back to play the witcher 2 this week for the second time choosing Ioverth's side this time and playing on the dark difficulty.I noticed in your video that your game is much more beautiful than mine that I'm playing through the Xbox backwards compatibility, the PC version of the cd projekt games have always been better, the version of the consoles is much more graphically reduced Principally .

[@lvd8122]

If I was a mage, I would create a golem like that, or one even more sophisticated.

[@estroll5034]

Yeah, one that actually has fail safe mechanics for existential crisis

[@SCDJMU]

so it could jerk you off? people make me sick

[@ameliakyle7054]

There is a resolution to the conflict, Guests would know the Name-Word as stated by the golem, therefore it goes without saying a Guest would only need state the name-word a guest can also be warned if they are behaving like an intruder.

[@TESkyrimizer]

But what if an illusionist clouds the Golem's senses and tricks it into thinking the name word was spoken when it wasn't? Or vice versa? May result in the killing of guests and the invitation of intruders. Eg. Im a guest, I say the name word. An illusionist adds a phonetic spell to distort my words and makes it incorrect. Golem kills a guest.

[@razorsedgefan]

My favourite character in the game.

[@Bloodlinemishima]

Poor golem :(

[@Bartooc]

Mind blown by facts.

[@yanivp1]

Now if only the Golem could think probabilistically, it'd be fine.

[@GrimgoreIronhide]

Exactly. From a purely logical standpoint, probability does not matter, since anything technically possible must be factored. A thinking being, no matter how intelligent must either eventually take some things on faith, or retreat into Solipsism, like the flat earthers.

[@scutumfidelis1436]

@@GrimgoreIronhide This sounds like a good argument against atheism.

[@GrimgoreIronhide]

@@scutumfidelis1436 While there are good arguments against atheism that might spring from this, this by itself is not one of them. I didn't mean faith in the sense of religious faith. I'm referring to faith in the sense of epistomology. Aka, I have faith that the chair I sit in every day has not been replaced with a very carefully concealed death trap. I have faith that everyone around me isn't part of a massive conspiracy to make me believe the earth is round. The Golem on the other hand must weigh that possibility, and every other potential possibility, every time he does anything. Because these things are technically possible, to the golem they all have to be seriously considered. Hence when Geralt raises the issue "Well what if an Illusionist is warping your senses" The golem can't just just shrug it's shoulders and reply "Possibly, but I'm willing to bet not."

[@scutumfidelis1436]

@@GrimgoreIronhide Right but that just makes it sound against atheism even more. An atheist always is the first to champion logical thought and empiricism yet their human condition binds them to take matters on faith. They believe reality is observable, they believe what Labcoats tell them, they believe their spouses love them, they believe in acting like a decent human being (I hope). They don't have any science to back this up or test the theorems.

[@GrimgoreIronhide]

@@scutumfidelis1436 In this case the atheist would not claim that they can scientifically prove God does not exist, that hasn't been one of their main arguments for a long time, though it once was. Currently they focus more on reversing the burden of proof in arguments against the religious, claiming that it is not up to them to prove the non existence of God, but that it is up to the religious to prove he does. This is flawed, because the religious are not proposing God as a scientific principle in the first place, so the two factions remain at an impasse. I have to say though, that I'm not particularly interested in discussing this here and now. I'm referring to Solipsism, and Atheists are not solopsists by and large.

[@ElBandito]

This video proved to me that CDPR can make a good futuristic game, so I am looking forward to Cyberpunk 2077.

[@potatoesmashymash5836]

Oof.

[@ElBandito]

@@potatoesmashymash5836 TBF, CP2077 has proven to be a good game, just not great as I expected.

[@Bigotdweller]

Aged as horsecum.

[@Talkshowhost23]

Golem divided by 0

[@seaque.]

My favorite character of Witcher 2.

[@jonaszpawlacz756]

Honestly, I think this one was kind of a stretch. The Golem didn't need to "assume" anything - as long as Geralt kept his distance, he was a guest. Should he approach or attempt to interfere with the Golem, he would become an intruder. Simple as that. So, the Golem's "iron logic" was pretty much just boasting.

[@Nor1998_]

Mind blown and it dies.

[@wom1320]

I wish i had found this quest when I played.

[@KingBobtomala]

victory, but at what cost :(

[@Thedeepseanomad]

Geralt vs ChatGPT-golem.

[@sparrow6190]

Poor golem

[@jet30yblack47]

If this was Skyrim or Fall out you'll need to have a certain level of speech to at least try xd

[@omerfarukunal4203]

Descartes liked this

[@JariahxSynn]

Hehe, I sworded Cynthia and her goon.

[@glinnyfelicitas7812]

Damn.

[@C0wb0yBebop]

Aww Witcher 2… great game and so different than Witcher 3.

[@xLetalis]

indeed

[@moali4085]

Dissapointed he didn't transform into roach and roll our

[@5tarasm]

Poor alchemist.

[@unnf9971]

briliant

[@Satoo8]

I finished the game 2 times, but I did not encounter this task ): why

[@karthiksubramanian2279]

Now that's a damn good program deadlock he created...golem.exe crashed!!...wait this can even be called as logic plague!!

[@Unknown_Web_User]

So, you are the guest or intruder?

[@BeautyIsJustAMask]

Михаил Сергеевич you are both and yet neither *boom*

[@MultiSmoker8]

You are a guest with the intent of an intruder.

[@AgentDearestZ]

So he dies just like that? From thinking? Okay?

[@Landis963]

Insoluble dilemmas tend to do that to AIs (to wit: "Liar", by Isaac Asimov (in the _I, Robot_ short story collection), every machine intelligence episode of Star Trek TOS ever).

[@soopahsoopah]

dude it's one of the oldest tropes in the book

[@roguedrones]

AWWWWWWWWWWWW, he should of finished off with ... ''and we are guests'..

[@davidvadan3341]

You are the best 1 st