Gerard Way Statement from the Sally Jessy Raphael Show Audience (1993) with context

[@ChachiTelevision1979]

Sharp kid. I'll bet when he grows up, he'll be the savior of the broken, the beaten, and the damned.

[@Ellie_Kat]

And create an academy of some sort 🖤

[@qu1nny0]

​@@Ellie_Kat maybe it has something to do with umbrellas?

[@MrJayArt]

By sharp did you mean nerdy?

[@ChachiTelevision1979]

​@@MrJayArt Your misery and hate will kill us all.

[@joelryan1491]

and carry on 😁

[@MTBLifestyle]

When I was a young boy my father took me into the city to see Sally Jessy Raphael.

[@jennacallahan1]

😂😂😂

[@kellyxx3288]

Will you be a saviour of the broken, the beaten and the damned

[@michelles.6466]

Severely underrated comment 😂

[@fionahamilton7231]

How did you manage to stay awake 😂

[@MrJayArt]

Who?

[@AlfredoGomez-kp4cf]

The fact that the audience clapped more for the lady saying she banned the comic than they are for the guy calling Jeffrey Dahmer an awful person is wild

[@mahendrakrisnamurti9599]

And to add more, I live in a country where censorship is so highly enforced by the government. A person smoking in a movie would get blurred and for example in the film titled 300 about King Leonidas where there is a lot of stabbing, they cut a lot of those scenes. Even corpses in that movie were blurred. Sex education is considered taboo in my country because they think introducing condoms would encourage the kids to do sexual activity without the risk of getting pregnant. Where does that lead us? My country is high on robbery, a lot of places still have highwaymen, many sexual assault cases happening here and there, and I am even more ashamed to tell you this, many teen even kid pregnancy cases happening across the country. Exactly like the man said in the ending of the vid, censorship doesn't solve the problem. It doesn't need an expert to tell you that much. It makes people oblivious

[@giangarciamusic]

I'd bet you all my savings people would react the exact same way today for beloved figures that commits atrocious crimes.

[@Melissa0774]

I don't think they believed that he really thought that Dahmer was a bad guy. They were to dumb to understand why he would make a comic about him if he really thought that. And regardless, they didn't like the fact that he was making money off of Dahmer, either, probably.

[@shebreathesingold8043]

Because that's not an honest breakdown of what people were copying. The man who was calling Jeffrey Dahmer a pedophile was glorifying serial killers by giving them their own comic books. Kids see a comic book and think "COOL". That's what the audience was reacting to. Meanwhile, this women was calling Dahmer more than awful, but a terrible influence to kids, so much so she doesn't want a comic book anywhere near them. So it's intellectually dishonest to do what he is doing and conflate some media labeling Dahmer an interesting figure with the woman opposing children reading serial killer-based comics.

[@MrImmortalFish]

@@shebreathesingold8043 Gosh. Lots to unpack here. Dahmer was not portrayed as an aspirational figure at all, yet you take issue with someone using a niche medium, comic books, to spread awareness of how a horrible person was horrible? You side with the person that wants to prevent that information from getting out? Why have you decided that people do not have the right to purchase what they want to purchase and spend their money as they see fit? When did you decide it was a great idea to become a book burner? Are you aware that comics and cartoons are not consumed exclusively by children? Do you know the average age of a person that buys comic books? Are you one of the socialists that will save democracy this autumn? How do you feel about all the graphic LMNOPQ- books in the school libraries? How did Joe Camel taste after you killed him?

[@thelizard3500]

This kid will be great vocalist in a band... 100 percent I believe

[@sanray6319]

Honestly I agree with you. He might even make an album that will go down as one of the best rock opera albums ever made in history...

[@Literallyfrankiero]

@@sanray6319 he’s actually in a band called my chemical romance! It’s really good you should listen to them :3

[@azriwafiy1520]

@thelizard3500 8 years later

[@azriwafiy1520]

@@sanray6319 13 years later

[@Chris_Hruska]

He likes D&D, Audrey Hepburn, Fangoria, Harry Houdini, and croquet. he can't swim, he can't dance, and he Doesn't know karate. Face it, he's never gonna make it.

[@quackeyoss]

im getting pissed about 30yr old censorship beef

[@alastryona]

time is a flat circle and we're still dealing with people doing this. it's just about trans people existing and black positivity now.

[@AndroidsMusic]

​@alastryona "Think of the children" crowd will always be outraged at something new. If only this lady knew what the internet would expose kids too, these stupid comics and trading cards would be the least of her worries.

[@Hardcastle83]

This was when the left wing were cool rebels fighting against snow flake right wingers who got offended by everything, how times change ...

[@aleksarango1104]

@@AndroidsMusicI don’t think it’s about the specific issue. These people are just looking for something to be self-righteous and better-than-thou about.

[@darlingdame_x187x]

Hold on to that anger and multiply it because it's still happening now and it's much worse.

[@motionlesskilljoy]

"Comics aren't just for adults, comics are for everybody!" Wow... As a professional comic book illustrator and nerd, his words have had such a profound impact in my life and have resonated with me so very much.

[@amit4Bihar]

The audience had valid questions. To promote serial killers is exploitation and mockery of the victims

[@andysmith1996]

@@amit4Bihar How many times are you going to post this same comment?

[@nedmode9412]

@@amit4Bihar nope

[@cristalido3640]

@@amit4Bihar The long haired blonde guy did say that the comic he made was meant to push back against the charming portrayal that mass media was giving of Jeffrey Dahmer.

[@davetheimpaler204]

He almost certainly meant to say "Comics aren't just for kids, comics are for everybody"

[@bubbeentertainment5345]

For those wondering why he looks kinda depressed here: He was bullied a lot in school for how he looked Was a really isolated person which can be very difficult for a lot of such people (including myself) He discovered that a girl he had a crush on had a boyfriend via some explicit photos (the “I’m Not Okay” Song is based on this) At the same age he was held at gunpoint during a robbery. Had a drug and alcohol problem (either before during or after this clip)

[@gizmo_gadgets6482]

Damn, that’s rough. I’m glad he’s doing better

[@urubudopix976]

he was so young... :(

[@joyxkilla]

@@urubudopix976when he was a young boy...

[@catie7466]

i know this comment has no mean intentions but jeez imagine a random video of you from when you were 16 going viral and some random person in the comment calls you out on every specific thing you were sad about at the time lmao being famous must be so weird

[@rdzu834]

@@catie7466Gerard told these things though. In interviews, music videos. He’s already said it all, because the commenter picked up these things from his interviews as many fans do when they want to understand the art and the artist better. Nothing’s been leaked has it?

[@matt-lang]

The people who used to panic and go on these shows are the people in the twitter comments nowadays.

[@mr.selfimprovement3241]

Nah, the vast majority of the people who went to these shows are now passed on: the average age of a day-time talk show attendee in 1993 was in their 60s. Even if you were the typical middle-aged parent in your 40s or 50s at this time in 1993... you would now be in your 70s and 80s (if you are still alive). No. The people online making those comments these days are their grandchildren (and children), who are now middle-aged and should know better having grown up around that. I being one of those grandchildren whose is now 40, am shocked that those kids who are now parents my age are repeating that cycle. My grandparents used to love to go to these taping's and now both are passed on. As a kid and teenager I always was against their opinion on these things because it was backwards and illogical. But that is how the Silent and Greatest Generations were raised - and even the boomers (my parents) had their own lesser issues with the younger Gen X crowd. Just a lot of stubborn narrow mindedness, and _"I am always right, so don't down even start with me'_ mentalities.

[@TingTingalingy]

​​@@mr.selfimprovement3241 Sounds about like today, even worse today. They'll burn down whole cities, come out in violent crowds, attack anyone that thinks differently than them etc. @mr.selfimprovement3241

[@alexcallender]

@@mr.selfimprovement3241 Pretty sure OP wasn’t saying they’re literally the same people; he was saying they’re the same *kind* of people, which is 100% true.

[@Irishgui83]

They're Trump supporters nowadays. The constantly outraged became the constantly deranged. The "TV will rot your brains" brigade became the "I can't go out, I'm watching my stories on Fox News" brigade. What an awful generation Boomers were/are. The worst in living memory.

[@lxadreadeater]

@@mr.selfimprovement3241 when you read too hard into a comment

[@Jonnicom]

Like how she completely ignored the question, why not go after all of the other violent media, instead of comics? Because it was an easy target, and she was being part of the problem by being on this program and ADVERTISING FOR WHAT SHE'S FIGHTING.

[@Disendent]

Because he himself WAS a child, that was even under the 17+ "Mature" rating, completely dismantling her stance by the raw power of him existing.

[@amit4Bihar]

The audience had valid questions. To promote serial killers is exploitation and mockery of the victims

[@raven4442]

​@@amit4Bihar He wasn't promoting a serial killer, he was exposing a serial killer.

[@ryno4ever433]

@raven4442 I agree with Gerard's position and I don't believe in censorship, but I don't think there's a fantastic argument for the idea that a comic book will be taken as "information" by anyone. People read comics for entertainment. I actually think exposure to the idea of a serial killer at all, and more serial killer presence in any form of media is mostly a bad thing. The more they're talked about, the more copycat killers are inspired. The best antidote for copycat killers is for them to be completely absent in media. Obviously news has to be reported on, but I don't think trying to inform people through a comic book is a good strategy. All that being said, I don't support book bans and do not side with this vile censorious woman from 3 decades ago.

[@raven4442]

@@ryno4ever433 Copycat killers don't do it based off comic books else we'd have joker copycats. Copycats do it based off news reports.

[@sabi_stray83]

Lord, that Jersey accent when he says 'comics'! Just hug.

[@timothyfloogle]

😊 love that phrase. Just hug! I am going to use this in my vocabulary and terms... thank you kindly... hope your life is great out at least going at least mad decent. Thanks xoxo again!

[@stalwartzero7001]

Long Island, not Jersey. The Jersey Shore cast isn’t from NJ 😂

[@sabi_stray83]

@@stalwartzero7001Gerard Way is from New Jersey.

[@walmars3curity]

@@stalwartzero7001 Explain your comment...

[@dylc5604]

"That argument holds no water".... Great comeback for someone with nothing to say.

[@danabananaim7133]

Jesus!! That was Gerard.. cements he always had a heart, always cared. Incredible

[@motionlesskilljoy]

[@Pooopers]

heart disease* what a fatty

[@newthrash1221]

The lady at 4:35 had the most sensical take out of all them: If you don't like them, don't buy them.

[@hanacats]

Mother of a victim and still being unbiased about her view... 💔❤️

[@leme9909]

Idk she also implied only indecent people Would buy them

[@RatedFforFUGlenda]

@@leme9909sounds about right.

[@leme9909]

@@RatedFforFUGlenda ur right Captain Purity reading about bad things makes you evil

[@atomdecay]

​@@leme9909 damage control

[@imalright48]

i'm so glad that this footage has been found. I haven't been in the mcr fandom for a couple of years but I can remember this clip being lost. It's so cool to finally hear him speak instead of just seeing a still of it

[@tristan_840]

This guy wrote one of my favorite comic books ever. I heard he also started a band several years after this interview, I hope he was a successful musician too.

[@Pixel3]

And for those that do not know he is the writer of the graphic comics which the Umbrella Academy is made upon.

[@Hardcastle83]

That's it? Umbrella academy stinks...

[@bulldogchvke]

Also lead singer in a band called My Chemical Romance 🖤

[@SRLovesPandas1]

and the co-creator of the character Peni Parker

[@pappico]

damn I wasn't even born yet during this time O__O dude looks so young in MCR vids I keep forgetting he's already 46 years old now in 2023

[@wheresthegrillcheese]

Its called Make up. He looked like shit in 2004. But he had make up most of his life.

[@zzxmookysxzz4103]

No one cares that you weren’t born yet.

[@astralyeti]

well of course he looks young in MCR videos from twenty years ago when he wasn’t 46. what is this comment even

[@pappico]

@@astralyeti it's becausw he looked younger than his age in his late 30s and early 40s. what is your comment even

[@astralyeti]

@@pappico twenty years ago he would have been in his mid twenties. idk what you’re talking about…

[@grimmwicked313]

This woman trying to prevent children from Reading comic books from the public library is probably the most Un-American thing I've ever heard of.

[@darlingdame_x187x]

And today they are banning books.

[@gaiita]

it’s actually very american when u think abt it..😭

[@thouxanshaun7157]

@@gaiitano its not lol, shes advocating for withholding information, why should any book be banned? books are meant to be read by anyone and everyone but sure since keeping stuff from the public is very “american”

[@emmabennett7699]

@@thouxanshaun7157 I think what @galiita is trying to say is that while we say withholding information is an "unamerican" value, that in reality many Americans (especially conservatives) go out of their way to ban things that they think have questionable morality. I mean we are the middle of a crisis with public libraries right now because conservatives keep trying to ban books.

[@MrVariant]

​@@thouxanshaun7157emphasis on kids but hey that's a drag queen genderqueer zone now, so that's on the parents failing (Marlon Wayans style with his anger problems) if they enable kids going to the library.

[@gremmet_yeah]

Graceann totally ignored gerard’s point. he was trying to say her argument was incorrect because she’s saying only kids read comics when she couldn’t be more wrong.

[@Lou_Mavs]

As was a lot of people back then, unfortunately. Lol.

[@caraalexandra1266]

I’m not sure what I expected the discussion to be about when talking about comics but Jeffery Dahmer was not on the list in my mind at all 😅

[@matthewedwards3094]

There is also a graphic novel called My Friend Dahmer. It was adapted into a film in 2017. I don't know much about the graphic novel, but the movie wasn't very good.

[@Howtomakepipebomb]

​@@matthewedwards3094The graphic novel was really good

[@erm...anyways]

Gerard is so cute how could people bully the little guy 😭

[@thecastleofenlightenment2604]

cuteness aggression

[@cicolasnage5684]

Oh please. If it was Gerard way that wasn’t famous you wouldnt say that.

[@iamcase1245]

@@cicolasnage5684 I would absolutely say that if he wasn't famous.

[@kidrobot.]

cuz he was chubby

[@erm...anyways]

@cicolasnage5684 I'd say it either way bro just because this world has shitty standards doesn't mean everyone has them

[@Saturn_Ivory]

Gerard Way was adorable at 16. I already know I would of been friends with him in high school🖤

[@Colettepardo]

He’s still adorable❤️❤️ but he looks so freakin cute in this I can’t even😭😭😭

[@Add_Account485]

Which one is he? Sorry I don't know

[@Add_Account485]

I don't wanna sound stupid cause your fans of his but is he the one works for bone yard comics in the audience? With the red/purple flanelette shirt and brown hair like a bowl cut almost

[@Saturn_Ivory]

@@Add_Account485 yes that’s him

[@Saturn_Ivory]

@ShadowFlash what?

[@virallcullture8585]

This argument feels like it will never end with the continued existence of Karens who expect everyone else to raise their brats

[@laysdong]

Just classic conservative shit

[@buddhull]

If you don’t know about them already check out videos or writings on the PMRC court trial and the debates about it on Oprah.

[@buddhull]

Also any videos regarding media and art censorship (often because of the PMRC) featuring Frank Zappa or Jello Biafra are good.

[@cuteygoth57]

Right? She completely shut down the question the guy had about why don't the parents just raise their kids better and keep this stuff away from their kids? She wouldn't even hear it 🙄

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

And so the *cough cough* rate continues increasing along with it from the insufferable and pain within.

[@tonieeb9220]

“Should we trust everyone or create a law telling everyone no” is fucking crazyyy.

[@swirligirl_1145]

IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS LOST MEDIA FOR YEARS AND YEARS

[@benm1414]

And I saw your comment a year later!

[@roseyvision]

It's SO WEIRD watching this. Who knew the chubby nerdy kid would have such an impact one day and be a voice for so many youth! Thank you Gerard!

[@transmission3143]

It's hard to watch this without longing for a time machine isn't it? Preferably taking a fistful of MCR albums with you. I mean if you actually did that and showed Gerard what lay ahead the poor lad would probably dirty himself, but still...

[@mr.selfimprovement3241]

Like I said to someone else: Dude wasn't 'chubby'. In 1993 standards, he was enormous. That certainly did not help the poor guy. I'm the same age as him, and back then I was 132lbs. If a 16 year old was 200lb+ without muscle he was considered a "lard @ss" (a term we used alot back then). The obesity epidemic that hit hard years later really changed things in our perception of weight standards here in the US. But in 1992 and 1993, we were just getting out of the 1980s when almost everyone was thin. Just look at the rockstars and celebrities of that time - rail thin (anorexic). No wonder he was bullied so (kids his size where not the norm), and that really sucks that he had to go thru that.

[@roachmorphine8018]

​@@mr.selfimprovement3241 He was definitely not enormous but I know what you mean. Sadly the encouragement of undereating in the 90s only contributed to obesity even further.

[@onecrazy001]

That earring isn't doing him any favors.

[@jamestyler9326]

@@mr.selfimprovement3241 It sucks, but that is fate. I don't believe you get MCR without his life experience. That is what makes life so beautiful

[@KariIzumi1]

Gerard Way is so based, loved this for them.

[@mr.selfimprovement3241]

That's not 'based'.... that was 'normal' for every young person back then. You didn't have to be 'Based' back then, because as bad as our parents and grandparents were - society STILL wasn't as oppressive of biological and hard facts as today. It was just saying "common sense" to narrow-mined people without it. "Based" exists as a word these days, because it's the counter culture. Back then, it was just culture. No one was confused about pronouns, their race, gender differences or how money worked. Companies knew that to sell a product you had to give people what they wanted (not a agenda), and our politicians were not pandering to any demographic other than their own constituents in their state. It was a TOTALLY different world in terms of 'social justice' and that sort of thing. The worse thing we had to worry about in that regard, was the OPPOSITE side of the political spectrum (things might have been TOO conservative): _The Satanic Panic_ and _Videogames V*olence Campaign._

[@KariIzumi1]

@@mr.selfimprovement3241 Sir, this is a Wendys

[@Jamesucht]

@@mr.selfimprovement3241 you really thought you had a point here

[@TheGoldenCapstone]

​@@mr.selfimprovement3241Satanic Panic amd video game violence was allegedly a fake narrative yet our youth is more violent and degenerate than ever and pop stars literally make music videos and hand gestures of satanic imagery.

[@kamrynrist6049]

@@mr.selfimprovement3241 I can tell how old you are by how you kept putting words in all caps to add emphasis XD

[@collinthomas6288]

This country had been having the same arguments for decades

[@HawksDiesel]

lady went for low hanging fruit and couldn't answer questions when challenged on her opinion.

[@fermunoz3838]

Society: proceeds to create a serie about Jeffrey Dahmer. And it's such a success

[@jakecarlin9402]

Society: proceeds to have an entire daytime show devoted to Dahmer and makes a profit off it, while also complaining about other people making a profit off it through trading cards and comics. What a bunch of hypocrites. Good lord the 80's and 90's were such a stupid time.

[@CanadianWhatever]

@@jakecarlin9402 The ethics behind the two are really different; one is glorifying and even idolizing a serial killer while also profiting off it; the other is profiting off the discussion of it. And let's not pretend that the 2020's isn't a joke.

[@HappyLarry.]

What is that girl's question? They make books, movies, TV shows, documentaries, ABOUT these killers, hell you're not even factoring in the media *inspired* by these killers, or even the news organisations that talk about these killers over and over and over again to get eyes on screens for their ad revenue. Does she think no one is making money there??

[@jorgechavarria4799]

Of course, even some actors get recognized for their acting as the serial killer on the movie or show. Yes, the people will pay money to see these controversies or actions in a play, but there's a difference in speaking facts about an assasin, pedophile, etc and try to sugarcube the stuff to made them look like an antihero or like even had the right to do those things.

[@keselekbakiak]

It's simple math for activists. Always choose the weakest one as a target.

[@CanadianWhatever]

I feel like trading cards are a bit much...

[@HappyLarry.]

@@CanadianWhatever they tell them information about them and you remember their names and faces. I'm sure you don't object to cops making playing cards with missing persons, right? Cause they do that for a similar purpose. They're not glorifying murderers by having them played by Zac Efron

[@CanadianWhatever]

@@HappyLarry. Uh... I'd definitely not feel comfortable with trading cards about missing persons, no. The idea of that makes me incredibly uneasy. We're talking about playing cards, like ones we would trade to get a full set... Are you thinking of something else? Like a binder of information that is used for the purpose of helping to solve mysteries? Those aren't playing cards.

[@dfjulesful]

Gerard in his grunge era

[@kage6613]

it was 1993...the whole world was. or at least America

[@ScarletKnightAGK]

A terrible time for music. We had just exited our zenith musically.

[@VicM-xc9zb]

​@ScarletKnightAGK lmfaooooooo... The greatest form of rock ever. Unlike glam you cry baby... get over it 😂

[@ryno4ever433]

@VicM-xc9zb you're both stupid and both glam rock and grunge are valid. Cut out the generational warfare crap.

[@ScarletKnightAGK]

@@VicM-xc9zb Grunge was for pathetic dorks hooked on drugs to cope with the pain of not being able to make friends in high school because they spent most of their time inside their locker. Where the girlfriends of the guys who listened to hair/glam metal pushed them. You'll apparently never get over that.🤪

[@DavidValeTX]

1st guy was awesome: I wrote this comic for he is: a pedo, a serial killer, and evil. The way the media potrayed him was wrong, a handsome normal guy. The Gerard Way appearence predicted his future: The Umbrella Academy.

[@nitashajohnson4767]

Right, he's not wrong. The way he was portrayed did not convey the monster he was. The lady standing on the wrong side of history mirrors some of the people right now.

[@DoogleLawless]

When a 16 year old is the only one with his head on straight, you know they'll grow up grreat. He went on to inspire countless others to be brave with their art. Legend.

[@Melissa0774]

I'm surprised MCR never did a music video that involved a scene of someone being on a daytime talk show because of this.

[@shirophoenix01]

I was 13 in 1993 and it was such a pain in the ass living surrounded by people like these. Sad thing is that its still exists, a great example of that is the book bannings and the way people blew out of proportion Gojira's performance in the Olympics (IMHO it was the best part!) but its changed for the better. As a side note, Gerard looked like what in my book was a "cool kid". I was in the freaks and geeks group too and I hung out with people like him back then.Its so cool seeing him stand up to people like these at such a young age.

[@maevependragon]

Same

[@ritavillegas6991]

I KNEW IT WAS HIM AND NOBODY ELSE SAID ANYTHING so I thought I was just going crazy.

[@7EEVEE]

wdym you knew? when? lol

[@yeetusjesus8385]

I would die for Gerard. Periodt.

[@heelturnsface]

That lady in red is a proto-Karen. Needs to control the narrative, conversation, government and what information people can and can’t ingest. People romanticize the 90s but it sucked too

[@asuraXTC]

Oh I know you ever saw the old Phil Donahue interview with Marilyn Manson shit is crazy how they’re wanting society to be communist order

[@Hag_of_Fangorn]

Absolutely. Not to mention the whole "I won't even listen to that argument." What a childish tactic.

[@kim86gurl]

It didn’t suck too. You’re basing this off one clip from one talk show that almost no one remembers and only a very specific demographic of person watched. It’s just a discussion. At least they were still able to have one back then.

[@RockaRollaSteel]

We really have to start worrying when holier-than-thou political Karens of her ilk start running for president.... Oh, wait, there is!

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

Hart D. Fisher, (the long haired guy) is an interesting guy who's lived a fairly tragic life. He also published Gerard Way's first comic work, though Gerard often ignores it

[@MrBeetsGaming]

Only places that should not have certain books/magazines/comics are school libraries, anywhere else they can be found it's a parents job to keep their kid from reading it if they don't want them to

[@gay_ass_lampshade32213]

I was whisper-screaming "that's my boy!!!" 😂😂

[@rdzu834]

1:55 They don’t *just* belong to children. They don’t necessarily belong to adults. Adult comics belong to adults. Children’s comic books belong to children. To quote George Carlin: “where’s the fucking mystery?”

[@giangarciamusic]

All these people's personalities can be summed in two words: *fear* and *censorship.*

[@modifidious]

30 years ago wow

[@dfjulesful]

Ahem 29 years ago thank you very much 😭

[@soblue315]

Rude.

[@modifidious]

@@soblue315 not really, I didn't meant as if he looked old now or something, he looks extremely young still

[@soblue315]

@@modifidious I was joking, lol.. sorry!!!

[@modifidious]

@@soblue315 oh, lol

[@abbywilson7222]

People fangirling over Gerard but conveniently forget the whole reason for the clip...Hart D. Fisher is the author and publisher of the Jeffrey Dahmer: An Unauthorized Biography comic book and publisher of Boneyard Press

[@ADarnSmore]

wow you're so observant

[@tomas23769]

The whole reason this clip was uploaded was JUST so you could see Gerard, they wouldn’t literally make it the title of the video if it wasn’t

[@AlfredoGomez-kp4cf]

@@tomas23769 honestly, the comic situation was interesting, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't click on it because of his name being in the name of the video

[@kim86gurl]

Celebrity worship is so cringe

[@AnotherHuan]

Gerard Way aside, this conversation was way ahead of its time and so was the person who made the comic, for the right reason. He said he didn’t make a dime and that his work portrayed him (Dahmer) like dirt. 👏 💯

[@simpforjiwoo7703]

Little Gee ☹️ how could anyone bully him?? He looked so sweet.

[@limemellowyellow]

The last lady basically summed up everything. If you don’t like it don’t buy and support it.

[@masterofthewicked89]

We have freedom of speech and the right to read anything we want. We also have different opinons too. Would I allow my child read these comics? No, I wouldn't. Just like I wouldn't allow them to watch documentaries on Dahmer or any serial killer of that nature. Somethings aren't meant for children, however no one has the right to ban someone elses art.

[@beetlebob4675]

Exactly. People need to parent their own kids and realize that some things are out of their control. I wasn't allowed to watch The Simpsons or South Park, but you betcha I watched them at my friend's house😂

[@d.rabbitwhite]

Exactly, that's why I didn't let my kid read the bible except to fact check those friendly little animated movies about biblical characters that gloss over every bit of bigotry, gore and senseless killing.

[@SummerFairy.270]

AWWW HES SUCH A NERD😍😍😍😍

[@freddydibnah8942]

You're a creep.

[@ActuallyHoudini]

"Just don't buy them." is pretty much where the argument against "immoral media" should end. You don't want to see it? Then don't buy it. It's differant when its like on billboards and advertisements and stuff you can't avoid but if you go out of the way to go to a store, dig through the media until you find something you think goes against your morals... Then don't buy it. Leave it. If you find it horrible, pay it no mind.

[@reikun86]

This lady had the best take.

[@daynasafranek7807]

The lady saying she’s not into censorship and yet that’s exactly what she was doing. So effed up! He was the only one with a logical argument.

[@joeyrhorror]

"That argument hold just no wota, I just won't even deal with it," just like her kids who she's so concerned about getting a hold of these comics. God, if she only knew about the internet, I bet she has some wild conspiracies and rants going today on her Facebook HOA group.

[@BetweenTheFog]

It’s amazing how quickly this country supports suppression and restriction of speech/censorship. It’s a storytellers duty to rail against that by any means.

[@burningdaylights]

Just last night, a journalist from the Washington Post was asking the government to step in and stifle the interview Musk had with Trump. A huge amount of people are for censorship, so long as it hampers their ideological opposition. As pathetic as this woman is, she's actually better than half the population, according to a Pew poll.

[@filho4437]

Still trying today. What's funny is now it's the other side. When they're done whining it'll seesaw back the other way.

[@mam362]

True free speech means sometimes hearing things you don't agree with

[@dewilew2137]

Gerard Way was a little chubbster?!? Awwww!!

[@urubudopix976]

he has always been a little chubby 🥺 it's the cutest thing ever

[@epicMicrowavve]

Ikr, it gave me confidence because I was a chubby emo kid in middle school and I feel better for past me who used to get bullied and cried

[@grimm_destroyer5566]

I was a Chubby little bastard too lol

[@Johnmrobinson-vb5vd]

The fact he was a kid and had a more mature reasonable take than the adults

[@K.Dwizzle]

Ok, the topic itself was nuts! That audience did not listen to a thing the comic guy said. And as we know now, comics for older folks are Calle Graphic Novels. Ignorant people suck. Luckily, they’re all like 25 years older now.

[@AaronAbernethy]

Graphic Novels is just a marketing term. It’s meaningless. They’re all just comics. There’s nothing wrong with the word ‘comics’.

[@saiyanwarrior828]

It’s crazy how that first audience member commented and said “how do you think these people feel after their child or someone was killed and then you’re selling these and make money off of them” when that’s exactly what these shows nowadays like csi and law and order do only way worse because they actually are getting paid for it and glorified. I believe in bringing awareness but not like that, and none has a problem with it, it’s sickening in my opinion.

[@joshfallon6528]

As a kid I avoided these kinds of shows except as a passing curiosity. However, seeing this kind of face-to-face discourse by a group with varied and opposing opinions *broadcast on daytime television nationwide* feels so much healthier than the from behind a screen bickering we do today. Society needs these kinds of shows to come back so we can see real regular people hash these societal disagreements out - especially with today's culture wars. It's interesting to see people getting heated yet staying civil. Face-to-face discussions with a genuine and good mediator will always have that advantage over other mediums. Plus - the fact that regular people and not a panel of so-called highly educated experts keeps it down to earth. Just my humble opinion.

[@Aster_Risk]

Oh honey. You really are a kid. These shows were not healthy or useful. They were exploitative, filled with fear-mongering and always completely biased toward conservative, backwards ideals.

[@d.rabbitwhite]

This shit lead to what we have now in reality tv and sensationalist crap full of hyperbolic word salad violence. This was not a hashing out or discussion this was purely for views. I remember it well. I despised it then and knew it was taking media in a shite direction.

[@KamiloPerez06]

He still sounds exactly the same HAHA

[@laurazaetz9505]

Man had a glow-up on the outside but his inside was always wonderful.

[@Gerardwayrock]

✌🏻✌🏻🌹😊

[@xennial80sxberner]

That lady in red was such a fucking 90s Karen

[@Zero_19268]

3:35 there he ISSSS

[@Doubruary]

Te quiero mucho Gerard de los 90's :c❤

[@KatieSparkles]

Omg can you imagine what they would think of the Cards Against Humanity games today. It sounds like these cards we’re also supposed to be for an older crowd too and they even said for mature audiences over 18 right?

[@Gerardwayrock]

✌🏻✌🏻🌹😊

[@kaseybones]

This episode is ridiculous. The author of these comics is completely in the right

[@amandakucsera]

"someone can be mature and 14" RED FLAG Noononono

[@sadandalonearemysafewords2740]

You’d be surprised

[@amandakucsera]

@@sadandalonearemysafewords2740 I mean in the context you probably aren't thinking.

[@sadandalonearemysafewords2740]

@@amandakucsera oh ok

[@sarunightamber701]

@@amandakucsera well they can

[@lesliecartagena1292]

@@sarunightamber701No older men said that I was mature for my age all the time , they took advantage of me because of how naive and young I was It was like taking a candy from a baby for them .

[@williwnl6287]

the way he speaks is poetic.. this guy should be a singer

[@DrelvanianGuardOffic]

"That argument holds absolutely no water" Translation: "mmm, this boot is delicious."

[@PimpkinPie]

I don’t know what this argument was about but I agree with Gerard

[@rentlessrentless620]

That Long Island Karen was something else

[@aambrosiumm]

i so wouldve been his friend if we went to high school together

[@crystalskullsucked]

Sounds like the type of question from a guy who’s dad took him to the city to see a marching band….

[@dclibra2394]

I love him.

[@Gerardwayrock]

Hello😊

[@Melissa0774]

It's amazing how much all these people from back then, who wanted to censor stuff for kids have totally lost their battle. If you know what kids watch on KZbin today, you know what I'm talking about.

[@HumanInstrumentalityProject]

People that ban books hate knowledge and would ban the book they live by if they actually read it.

[@davidfaustino4476]

Media is still doing this. Today. Literally right now.

[@DizzyDez613]

The two gentlemen making the cards and the comic books, as well as the 16yo in the crowd, were the only three people that offered valid, logical arguments. Everyone else that spoke was simply fear mongering, offering no legitimate arguments.

[@itsmyytaccount8498]

This problem will seemingly never go away; it's only getting worse. Today they're trying to shut down speakers they don't like on UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES.

[@mattrondeau7466]

Yeah, the left has always hated free speech.

[@dzombie5776]

In the words of fictional cartoon character from king of the hill bobby hill: why do you hate what you dont understand?

[@altairegaming8978]

Love this. As a cartoon enjoyer and future cartoonist, I think adults should be able to take in media that educates them so they're mindful.

[@sabrinatscha2554]

Around 2015-2016, easy access to “gore” channels, is arguably the sole reason that the US government was unable to drum up public support for a hot war with Iran… for the very first time in history; the average person was able to witness what their leaders were funding, overseas. Fast forward to today: and take a look at how easy it is for them, now that they have effectively silenced what was once a major part of the early internet… people have the collective memories of a goldfish. They need to be constantly reminded.

[@Gerardwayrock]

✌🏻✌🏻🌹😊

[@opaljk4835]

Hahaha “it’s not gonna be sold in Nassau county!” Definitely an accurate portrayal of the type of people who had to put up with growing up there

[@CINEKYD_MEDIA_ARCHIVE]

0:16 *"Jeffery"* Hope his artwork is better than his spelling.

[@Limba777]

😂

[@Limba777]

Jerfy

[@TingTingalingy]

He's a world renowned comic artist today. What have you done with your life?

[@CINEKYD_MEDIA_ARCHIVE]

@@TingTingalingyYes, so famous that this clip is all about a teenage audience member. 🤣

[@TingTingalingy]

@@CINEKYD_MEDIA_ARCHIVE uh.... You're a nobody... He's the singer of my chemical romance and has his comics turned into TV shows on Netflix. You must be a cashier

[@theonlyjamiebourgeois9703]

Wow, 1994 did not know the internet was coming.........

[@kim86gurl]

Internet was already there. It just wasn’t in EVERY American home.

[@tss3393]

4:26 30 years later, and we still haven't learned this lesson yet.

[@KISHIN-RIKI]

Mad respect to gerard for always holding it down for comics

[@arayasunshine9766]

Shirley was speaking fast at the end tho. If you don’t agree or like something then just don’t buy it

[@Gerardwayrock]

✌🏻✌🏻🌹😊

[@dannyferarra4729]

Everybody knows now that comics are most definitely geared more towards adults. I’m glad we cleared this up. This seems outrageous

[@flyingsaucexboss]

This is so interesting. If I was in the audience, I wish I could have pointed out to her that if she had read the Bible, she must understand how Satan is not portrayed in a positive light, which is the crux of where her entire argument originates. Therefore, most of her outrage lies with comic books and the interests of young people in general, because people fear what they don't understand, especially as they get older. The author does not have any empathy for the older generation and is reveling in pushing boundaries. As has been proven over the past few decades, he was ahead of his time and comic books truly have become established as adult reading. She is right that children shouldn't be exposed to graphic material, and I'm not really sure how much life experience you must have to properly put this subject matter into context, but it sounds like the author agreed with that. Dude literally lost money on the book. Just a lot of outrage over nothing.

[@brendanb2982]

Teenage Gerard Way looks like the chill, quiet Hispanic kid you talked to on the first day of high school and then never spoke to again.

[@JONATHAN666-evil]

3:51 i agree with comics are for everybody. And again its gee of course ill believe him

[@raulzavala9061]

Today this wouldn't be so controversial because kids don't read comics. LOL!

[@adamJKpunk]

You’re gonna go far, kid.

[@scarling-c1j]

the offspring reference

[@The_GhostInYourRoom]

Show me how to lie...

[@CrocusSeal]

I'm impressed with how well spoken he was on such a hot button issue. I don't think I'd have the guts to speak out the way he did at his age. Especially since he has shared that he is quite the introvert. God it's so easy to romanticize 1993 with the music and style of that era but I can't imagine how oppressive it felt growing up around adults with such moral panic. It makes sense the rage and vigor that would be in his music later on.

[@JaySin801]

I hate when people are insulting you, and they say: "I'M TALKING NOW!" It's like: "WELL ALLOW ME TO RETORT!" (in Samuel L. Jackson's voice)

[@ToiletClogger1945]

" Hi, I'm 16, and your censorship is NOTTTTT OKKAAAYYYY, IT'S NOT OKAYY-HAYY-HAY-HAYYyyy "

[@Melissa0774]

He had a noticeable New York accent that he seems to have kind of lost over time. I'm surprised he didn't write a song about this. (unless he did and I don't know about it.) I mean Teenagers kind of is, but not really.

[@Gerardwayrock]

Hello😊

[@Melissa0774]

@@Gerardwayrock Oh get the hell out of here, you damn scammer. As if anyone is really going to think you're him. Oh please....