Gerhard Berger Interview | Beyond The Grid | Official F1 Podcast

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6 жыл бұрын

Gerhard Berger won ten races during his F1 career - but as well as this, he brought a sense of fun to the F1 paddock, with his party lifestyle, prank wars with Ayrton Senna, and laid-back attitude. Unsurprisingly, he has some amazing stories to tell in the latest edition of Beyond the Grid, presented by Bose!
Here are a few topics covered in this fantastic interview:
4:02 - His life before F1, working as a truck mechanic.
7:03 - Senna, what made him different, and their relationship.
16:06 - His incredible survival of a road car accident.
28:03 - Signing for Ferrari and how they tried to keep it a secret.
34:27 - His amazing last victory at Hockenheim in 1997.
42:15 - How he became Red Bull’s first ever athlete.
45:20 - Co-owning Toro Rosso and working with Sebastian Vettel.
48:48 - Which current drivers he’d want in his own team.
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@80Tamiya
@80Tamiya 6 жыл бұрын
so refreshing to hear him talk. back in the day when you could start racing at 21 with no money as long as you had the talent. a by-gone era sorely missed. such a great guy.
@tacklefatkids
@tacklefatkids 4 жыл бұрын
You can thank tobacco companies for giving those opportunities to drivers with no money in those times. Marlboro had their own racing series whereas the rest of the tobacco companies had basically secret marketing targeted with sports that required lots of money particularly F1 and IndyCar. Nonetheless I would like to see them back even if there's a lot of censorship the Benetton's prove that censorship can be subtle but unique.
@6lemans10
@6lemans10 Ай бұрын
​​@@tacklefatkidsCamel had a similar program, plus Mercedes Benz had a junior driver's program.
@criteriumgaming9457
@criteriumgaming9457 Жыл бұрын
Such a nice and memorable kind of a person. Straigth-forward, honest and polite. He drove alongside legends, for 3 out of the 4 most strong teams of the 1980s and 1990s. he got lucky many times but also was quick. His public crash was horrifying even listening to it. Its a miracle he didnt instantly get killed!
@mmdirtyworkz
@mmdirtyworkz 5 жыл бұрын
I love this guy! I watched him as a kid, together with Senna in McLaren, best duo! Great driver, also a nice guy :)
@БорисМарков-ы8ф
@БорисМарков-ы8ф 2 жыл бұрын
@@rickysullera5565 in qualifications the maximum boost was 5.6 or even more at ~1500 hp
@visheshtiwari77
@visheshtiwari77 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like a nice guy. Accepts his faults. Appreciates talent of co-drivers. Not the qualities you would find among new top drivers....
@ExpertPL999
@ExpertPL999 6 жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair. With every Beyond The Grid, I want video footage more and more. What I mean by that is to have camera footage during the interview, to see the emotions and reactions of both participants. I know this is not the point of the podcast, which should be audio-only, but the interviews are so good, that whenever I start Beyond The Grid, I just can't leave it in the background doing something else, I just have to 100% focus on podcast to make sure I don't miss any detail and thus I end up staring at this video background for the whole hour. Somebody feel the same way? Maybe camera footage would be positive for this series, it could still be audio-only on platforms like Spotify right?
@MichaelRoma91
@MichaelRoma91 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I found myself staring at the picture of Gerhard while I was concentrating on every detail of what they were saying lol, I agree.
@rodrandelavona4818
@rodrandelavona4818 5 жыл бұрын
In the end its a Podcast and not a video. it is what it is... would love it too... an interview is easy, only sound, but putting all that kind of content into videos is immense work...
@TheUntitled100
@TheUntitled100 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine asking that first question to Mika Hakkinen. Tom Clarkson: "You seem to epitomise 80s Formula 1. You were fast, you were daring, you were glamorous, you were fun, women loved you, even Bernie Ecclestone loved you. Would you agree with that?" Mika Hakkinen: "...Yes..."
@LMGxNoScopexx
@LMGxNoScopexx 6 жыл бұрын
Bahahaha mika would be awesome though, hes so philosophical about everything
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 4 жыл бұрын
When ever a reporter asked you a complicated question you always answer with yes. Mika Hakkinen: yes.
@johannhans437
@johannhans437 Жыл бұрын
Ask kimi: ....bwoaah
@DreA82
@DreA82 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@LamboWalker23
@LamboWalker23 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed description!
@Formula1
@Formula1 6 жыл бұрын
We got your back 😉
@alluvialedaempfer962
@alluvialedaempfer962 4 жыл бұрын
Berger has always been a class guy. One of those people you cannot not like.
@judithspawls9590
@judithspawls9590 6 жыл бұрын
Another great listen. I appreciate having this series
@lifeschool
@lifeschool 6 жыл бұрын
Its shocking this series doesnt get the hundreds of thousands of views it deserves, unlike a throw away montage video. This is Gold. I hope it continues and looped on F1 radio. Looking forward to Gunther Steiner - he's so funny.
@shooter7a
@shooter7a 2 жыл бұрын
Gerhard's driver evaluation is spot on with regards to Lewis and Max....
@Marc-eb4mu
@Marc-eb4mu 6 жыл бұрын
These podcasts are epic, the feel and tone is spot on and the subject matter is brilliant. Keep them coming please I look forward to may more.
@mangitt
@mangitt 6 жыл бұрын
well this is going to be a chill 50 minutes
@rokavsic
@rokavsic 6 жыл бұрын
ADRIAN NEWEY WOULD BE GREAT!
@dasnico13
@dasnico13 6 жыл бұрын
Killer
@graham.w89
@graham.w89 6 жыл бұрын
he would be dull as dish water !
@adithyamahesh6961
@adithyamahesh6961 6 жыл бұрын
Beyond the grid: Alain Prost please
@JedEmpleo
@JedEmpleo 6 жыл бұрын
Your wish came true lol
@adithyamahesh6961
@adithyamahesh6961 6 жыл бұрын
@@JedEmpleo yeah 😂👌
@typer4164
@typer4164 6 жыл бұрын
They have done it
@timyo6288
@timyo6288 5 жыл бұрын
ur mom gay
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 4 жыл бұрын
@@timyo6288 no u
@geoffdunstan8567
@geoffdunstan8567 6 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant one Tom, keep them coming !! thanks, Geoff from Merimbula Australia
@paulinepicot9255
@paulinepicot9255 4 жыл бұрын
His little burst of a mischievous laugh is delightful.
@Kyrath
@Kyrath 6 жыл бұрын
Berger, Coulthard, Barrichello, Massa, Webber, Bottas - the all time runner-ups.
@Dolek135
@Dolek135 6 жыл бұрын
Montoya, Moss, Peterson as well there are so many other drivers that could be on this list...
@MommaDee23
@MommaDee23 6 жыл бұрын
Sidekicks to the greats are important and interesting to the sport. Nothing to be ashamed of.
@borna4625
@borna4625 6 жыл бұрын
@@Dolek135You forget G Villeneuve definitely one of top 10 drivers od all time .
@Richard-qu5vi
@Richard-qu5vi 6 жыл бұрын
Riccardo Patrese?
@andrearojas1248
@andrearojas1248 6 жыл бұрын
Berger: Better than D.Hill would of won easily the 1993, 1994 & 1996 Championship in Williams. Montoya: Total loser. Ron Dennis should have fired him in Bahrain 2005 already and just kept de la Rosa going. Coulthard/Massa/Barrichello/Bottas: Just too nice guys, and Häkkinen/Schumacher/Hamilton are better, period. Patrese: LOL even R. Schumacher, Alesi, Frentzen, ... were better
@LordYllsacky
@LordYllsacky 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, Gerhard is such a cool guy!
@bladerielyt9882
@bladerielyt9882 6 жыл бұрын
I for one would listen to a Flavio Briatore interview with great interest.
@davidpyles795
@davidpyles795 6 жыл бұрын
His lawyers probably won't let him talk. He seems like the Italian version of Donnie T.
@alexhaas2185
@alexhaas2185 6 жыл бұрын
Nico rosberg has done a great interview with briatore on his youtube channel
@rideroundandstuff
@rideroundandstuff 5 жыл бұрын
50 minutes of bullshit and lies? Oh no, thank you.
@spieler440
@spieler440 5 жыл бұрын
Bladeriel YT he’s certainly a interesting personality.lol
@orion-jett
@orion-jett 4 жыл бұрын
flavio just did one a few weeks ago
@kruqtion9615
@kruqtion9615 6 жыл бұрын
I love this guys voice, Gunther Steiner too
@themadmonz2498
@themadmonz2498 6 жыл бұрын
Gunther Steiner’s voice belongs in a James Bond movie... As the villain of course....
@lifeschool
@lifeschool 6 жыл бұрын
Gunther would make a very interesting guest. :) I always thought he was German!
@enzlof
@enzlof 5 жыл бұрын
@@lifeschool i think he is from South Tyrol
@timyo6288
@timyo6288 5 жыл бұрын
"and i had a big pain in my hand because i lost all my skin" Gerhard Berger, after every podium finish in the 90s.
@justme-hh4vp
@justme-hh4vp 3 жыл бұрын
That car crash story is terrifying. He certainly is a lucky guy!
@martindigregorioacosta8769
@martindigregorioacosta8769 5 жыл бұрын
I love to listen Gerhard. He always has something interesting to say. Cool Beyond The Grids would be: Daniel, Piquet, Alesi, Jenson, Damon, Mika, Mansell... And I think Ron Dennis would be REALLY interesting to listen too.
@MrGoogelaar
@MrGoogelaar 5 жыл бұрын
Gerhard Berger, damn, what a straight talker, no bullshit, just Berger.
@Dheeeeraj
@Dheeeeraj 6 жыл бұрын
Need more personalities like him. A chilled one hour. Great one.
@themitsudas
@themitsudas 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder Senna enjoyed having Gerhard as a teammate. Such a funny guy!
@SirGingerOfKnight
@SirGingerOfKnight 6 жыл бұрын
As much as i'd love to hear an interview with Kimi, I'd love to hear one with Rob Smedley!
@project182r3
@project182r3 5 жыл бұрын
Ginger Knight that would be very dull
@kevinhekers2380
@kevinhekers2380 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor: This is the first time we did this surgery gerhard: No risk no fun what a legend
@joejohnz
@joejohnz 5 жыл бұрын
Berger was a very good driver and a very nice guy. He started his carrer shining and was very fast. I think he lost some speed after his crash in Imola, same spot where Senna dies. He won 10 times in a time with many superb drivers. Tell me... nowadays who has 10 wins?
@chamindujanith6337
@chamindujanith6337 2 жыл бұрын
Valtteri Bottas?🤔🤔
@kevindiazterra
@kevindiazterra 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly can’t get enough of these
@bernarda7710
@bernarda7710 6 жыл бұрын
Really nice interview, he made me laugh few times 😅
@1xRacer
@1xRacer 6 жыл бұрын
5th most retirements of all time wow! With 95 retirements (45.24 %) to have still achieved what he did with that many is amazing.
@johnjack1355
@johnjack1355 5 жыл бұрын
he was many years with ferrari in a time when they had really big reliability issues.
@jolly_raider
@jolly_raider 6 жыл бұрын
Idea : If the host and guest are in one room while the sound is being recorded, and if we have to keep youtube open for 50 minutes in order to listen to the podcast, doesn't it make sense to put a camera and record video aswell? I'm sure a lot of viewers would appreciate it.
@alinadornieden8411
@alinadornieden8411 6 жыл бұрын
BOSE probably wouldn't allow it.. being this is their podcast basically? i think
@hy_prix
@hy_prix 6 жыл бұрын
@@alinadornieden8411 if that was the case BOSE would never sponsor anything with video. 😂
@hugoantunesmusic
@hugoantunesmusic 11 ай бұрын
5 years after Max has 3 titles. What a great guy. Memories from my youth came out floating during this interview. The sound of those engines was roaring throughout his answers
@nordimejia5790
@nordimejia5790 6 жыл бұрын
Formula 1 was at its peak in the late 80s early 90s. He is right!
@themadmonz2498
@themadmonz2498 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic interview!!! Keep up the great work.
@themastertactician3205
@themastertactician3205 6 жыл бұрын
Fernando Alonso would be perfect for the next one . Or Daniel Riccardio!
@Ivokbg
@Ivokbg 6 жыл бұрын
Most interesting interview so far!
@davewilliams5380
@davewilliams5380 6 жыл бұрын
I loved watching Gerhard race when I first started following F1, and this interview is equally as enjoyable.Can you please try and get Patrick Head at some point? I have a feeling that he would have some stories to tell. Thanks
@chrm08
@chrm08 5 жыл бұрын
wonderfull Podcast, Gerhard is a very special person for a Ferrari Fan. I love Beyond The Grid, please continue!
@vlkt282
@vlkt282 6 жыл бұрын
Please Nelson Piquet next!
@timyo6288
@timyo6288 5 жыл бұрын
ur mom gay
@michaelpashut1696
@michaelpashut1696 5 жыл бұрын
Tim yo... You are a prick.... Anyone who is homophobic is a prick and your comment re Piquet is inappropriate... You are common and I will show you disrespect a chop like you deserves.
@80travisbickle
@80travisbickle 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode and what a great guy
@fabrizionapoleoni
@fabrizionapoleoni 6 жыл бұрын
The funniest interview so far.
@bornasiroki3976
@bornasiroki3976 6 жыл бұрын
Kimi next please...
@m93sek
@m93sek 6 жыл бұрын
so you want a hour of silence?
@seanbrady4715
@seanbrady4715 6 жыл бұрын
bwoah
@jacklaidlaw6097
@jacklaidlaw6097 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@808GT
@808GT 6 жыл бұрын
Bwoah!
@themadmonz2498
@themadmonz2498 6 жыл бұрын
Get over it already!!!!
@NippyMoto
@NippyMoto 6 жыл бұрын
Alain Prost please and when you do interview him, please ask him about Suzuka 89 and what it was like racing with Senna. He is the only person on earth who knows the true fighter Senna was.
@DanielDimov358
@DanielDimov358 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. The story with him and Ayrton discussing the corner where Senna died is just so weird and emotional. That's just fucked up.
@Flanneryshanedward
@Flanneryshanedward 2 жыл бұрын
Gerhard crash at tamburello was eerily similar to senna. He said he put his hands over his shoulders on impact, unfortunately senna probably didn't get that split second to do that which mite have saved the head injury.
@mrfadec
@mrfadec 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview! However so disappointed that you didn't ask Gerhard about 1989 Re Mansell and especially 1993-1995 Re Alesi.
@henrywhatzal4724
@henrywhatzal4724 6 жыл бұрын
How has this guy not won a championship?
@stefanpavlovic2531
@stefanpavlovic2531 6 жыл бұрын
Simply was in a "wrong" era: Senna, Prost, Piquet, Mansell, even Schumacher. Still he made his name which not a lot of drivers did at that time
@theq4224
@theq4224 6 жыл бұрын
Stefan Pavlovic like Ricciardo nowadays...
@bobbestofbobs
@bobbestofbobs 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't good enough
@KuchingKingVideoGamer
@KuchingKingVideoGamer 6 жыл бұрын
he was Senna's number 2 driver in 1990 up to 1992..He also drive for Benneton and Ferrari.
@therealgadielsepulveda
@therealgadielsepulveda 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbestofbobs OOF
@jesusirazabal4034
@jesusirazabal4034 6 жыл бұрын
Great, fun, light interview keep them coming...PS: Second the motion from another viewer regarding using a Camera, it would be great to not only hear but to see the body language of the guest....
@DaraMcNamara
@DaraMcNamara 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.... As usual. Thanks.
@skyzocka
@skyzocka 6 жыл бұрын
My boy
@gokartbob6478
@gokartbob6478 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, I never heard the one about Senna's suitcase out the helicopter 😁
@andrearojas1248
@andrearojas1248 6 жыл бұрын
Happened in Monza 1991.
@snappycruise
@snappycruise 5 жыл бұрын
Ayrton searched for it for hours !
@miloudiben
@miloudiben 2 жыл бұрын
Great podcast shame about the number of adverts interrupting it
@bodieofci5418
@bodieofci5418 4 жыл бұрын
Gerhard... what a legend.
@ANOther-jh3lw
@ANOther-jh3lw 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine asking that first question to Nico Rosberg: Tom Clarkson: "You seem to epitomise 80s Formula 1. You were fast, you were daring, you were glamorous, you were fun, women loved you, even Bernie Ecclestone loved you. Would you agree with that?" Nico: I was like Gerhard, no question, with the only difference, that I'm worldchampion despite having attended more parties and girls ...
@Kabika117
@Kabika117 6 жыл бұрын
It was great but at one point I thought the interview was more about Senna than Berger himself.
@MikeGoesBadaBoom
@MikeGoesBadaBoom 4 жыл бұрын
Berger is a beast.
@Molda22
@Molda22 6 жыл бұрын
Great once again!
@iliovecaRS
@iliovecaRS 6 жыл бұрын
pure golddddddddddddd
@leostreat3573
@leostreat3573 6 жыл бұрын
Too many questions about senna at the start I think , it's meant to be a Berger interview . Surely we have all heard the Senna tales already . Gets better after first 20 mins .
@boykeramdhani2087
@boykeramdhani2087 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic story. Always thought of him as just a "No. 2" but turns out he's got interesting personalities and life story. Ok a new fan now.
@chunterer
@chunterer 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best no.2's like Patrese and Rubens.
@master-kq3nw
@master-kq3nw 3 жыл бұрын
f1 drivers always respect gerhard
@TheNo1Grapefruit
@TheNo1Grapefruit 4 жыл бұрын
"Hello. I am Gerhard Berger. I am not Jean Alesi."
@bernarda7710
@bernarda7710 6 жыл бұрын
Nice guy !!
@ericcartman3562
@ericcartman3562 6 жыл бұрын
HE’S HIT BERGER!
@Adelaide2012
@Adelaide2012 Жыл бұрын
Berger was fast, he could almost keep up with Senna.
@VolleyballExplained
@VolleyballExplained 4 жыл бұрын
Eddie Irvine, please :)
@ziulcast
@ziulcast 6 жыл бұрын
Alain Prost next ??
@0g1SrBDS1989
@0g1SrBDS1989 6 жыл бұрын
SENNA SEMPRE
@juanpineda2338
@juanpineda2338 6 жыл бұрын
yo pensé que era de senna, pero claramente no es posible
@0g1SrBDS1989
@0g1SrBDS1989 6 жыл бұрын
e eu, meu amigo
@jorgemaximilianocamargo6604
@jorgemaximilianocamargo6604 5 жыл бұрын
He enjoyed Fórmula 1 and its quirks. He was as fast as the best when he wanted to.
@christianmartinez3129
@christianmartinez3129 6 жыл бұрын
Alain Prost please
@antoniojmnogueira
@antoniojmnogueira 5 жыл бұрын
Beyond the grid: Nelson Piquet please
@michaelpashut1696
@michaelpashut1696 5 жыл бұрын
My all time hero
@SuryaSarav_
@SuryaSarav_ 6 жыл бұрын
superb
@rstoeckler
@rstoeckler 5 жыл бұрын
Start 01:34
@LeFaviere
@LeFaviere 6 жыл бұрын
PIQUET!
@michaelpashut1696
@michaelpashut1696 5 жыл бұрын
Yes please.... I worship the great man
@olmotors5706
@olmotors5706 6 жыл бұрын
please do a video with Mika Häkkinen😎
@Octolicia
@Octolicia 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite jester!!! :D
@DC.
@DC. 6 жыл бұрын
Any chance the V8s will come back? Asking for the fans.
@adithyamahesh6961
@adithyamahesh6961 6 жыл бұрын
If you build a time machine
@GECKOZFTW
@GECKOZFTW 6 жыл бұрын
Not really. Or if they were to, they would probably have to be hybrids.
@mgecko2959
@mgecko2959 6 жыл бұрын
Nope
@henrywhatzal4724
@henrywhatzal4724 6 жыл бұрын
Nope
@heliumtrophy
@heliumtrophy 6 жыл бұрын
Don't include me, you can't fight against time.
@alexdenk1130
@alexdenk1130 6 жыл бұрын
As an Austrian, it pains me how badly Gerhard speaks English after all these years in F1. Nevertheless a great interview and I really like Gerhard!
@johnnytifosi
@johnnytifosi 6 жыл бұрын
Niki would be perfect for this when he recovers!
@christophermichael8010
@christophermichael8010 6 жыл бұрын
Is the next one Toto Wolff? lol
@andrearojas1248
@andrearojas1248 6 жыл бұрын
Gerhard Berger could be easily World Champion ... if he only joined Williams in 1993 instead to go back to Ferrari.
@chrm08
@chrm08 5 жыл бұрын
you mean in 1990 For 1993 Williams was only interest to have the dreamtem Prost/Senna
@andrearojas1248
@andrearojas1248 5 жыл бұрын
No I mean 1993. Williams couldn't have Senna in 1993 due to Prost excluding him in his contract and Renault demanded Prost. So the seat was free. They even tried to get Patrese back from Benetton. Berger already signed with Ferrari again. Hill got the seat because there wasn't any other driver available.
@chunterer
@chunterer 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrearojas1248 Hakkinen was 1st choice actually but Lotus would not release him. In the same vein Ron Dennis wanted Herbert to partner Mika in 1994 but again Lotus wouldn't release him.
@1988Carlsberg
@1988Carlsberg 5 жыл бұрын
Let’s have a Mika Hakkinen!! The Flying Finn!!!
@antoniojmnogueira
@antoniojmnogueira 5 жыл бұрын
Beyond the grid: Gordon Murray please
@markg7508
@markg7508 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to second, Alain Prost
@nicorosbergf1fan783
@nicorosbergf1fan783 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1.5 million subscribers
@berut_san
@berut_san 6 жыл бұрын
Adrian Newey next please
@themadmonz2498
@themadmonz2498 6 жыл бұрын
Alan Jones would be great!
@audreyperrin320
@audreyperrin320 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would get rid of the adds
@Abbaschand
@Abbaschand 6 жыл бұрын
Jihad Burger. #IntoTheBarrier
@rustyfuzz470
@rustyfuzz470 6 жыл бұрын
Hey interviewer guy - introduce yourself with your name, not 'TC'. I dunno who you are. Although apparently you work for Bose
@paulomig22
@paulomig22 6 жыл бұрын
Can we have video on the podcast please
@rideroundandstuff
@rideroundandstuff 5 жыл бұрын
I find it so interesting how he doesn't wanna talk about his Senna stories anymore. He also doesn't do that on German or Austrian television anymore. Maybe he thinks people reduce him or at least his relationship to Senna down to those stories.
@mgecko2959
@mgecko2959 6 жыл бұрын
Need an Austrian to pronounce Vettel's surname correctly. Yet Brits cant learn for 11 years now
@edgiebraahhh7280
@edgiebraahhh7280 6 жыл бұрын
Cry us a River.
@mgecko2959
@mgecko2959 6 жыл бұрын
If anyone cries it should be you, for being as ignorant as you are
@edgiebraahhh7280
@edgiebraahhh7280 6 жыл бұрын
@@mgecko2959 keep crying. Its hilarious
@mgecko2959
@mgecko2959 6 жыл бұрын
Just as your ignorance
@mosca3289
@mosca3289 6 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of different accents out there in the world. When I hear Gerhard say Lewis (Hamilton) or McLaren it doesn’t sound quite right. But that’s ok, he’s an Austria guy pronouncing an English name.
@Chalarge4635
@Chalarge4635 4 жыл бұрын
Around 39:54 What did he say? What is that "Chinese smile" ?
@paulanthonynelson2733
@paulanthonynelson2733 Жыл бұрын
Its slang for a fake smile
@benjameshodges
@benjameshodges 6 жыл бұрын
That's quite enough about Senna.
@piotrslenter3746
@piotrslenter3746 6 жыл бұрын
Beyond the grid Jackie Stewart Please!!!!
@rodrandelavona4818
@rodrandelavona4818 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Gerhard was more talented than Senna (wink)... missadvantage of 360 races, 40 races from 0 to F1, still up there.... what would have been if....
@johnjack1355
@johnjack1355 5 жыл бұрын
that's true. in my opinion berger was the greatest in point of talent.
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